Patriots vs Seahawks - NFL DFS Showdown | Week 1 WED | Picks, Plays & Process

0:00The yez What's up everyone, Tyler Timberlain here, aka Totech and Tambo. And we are back for another NFL season kicking it off this year on a Wednesday night. We got the Patriots at the Seahawks. It's a rematch of the Super Bowl. We're back in the booth. We got Hoopster title myself ready to break it all down as usual. We're going to talk all things at the captain. We're going to talk about roster construction playing for that million dollars over on Draft Kings tonight. We'll talk about the flex, how you can build it out different styles and then we'll get

1:02to a little bit of fan duel at the end as well. We got a little bit of housekeeping to go through for you guys, but make sure to smash that thumbs up. You're with us live. Just push the chat button down, hit the thumbs up quickly. Make sure you're subscribed to the channel. We got a ton of content this season. We're adding shows as well. Hoop and I recently did a show on the NFL launch. You guys can find it down below on our YouTube channel. It's easy watch. A couple thousand people have already checked it out. So all the promos, all the different advertisements. And then of course we've got the new shows. We've added even more to that since. So Hoopster bringing you in here. First man, we're back in the booth. It's the starting of a beautiful thing. The new season. Christmas Eve was last night. Christmas day is today. We're back in action, baby. Excited to be back and I'm sure you like this comment. One thing about TAMBO, always on time to PM Easter. And that's one thing we always said from the beginning. The crew you expect, the time you expect. That's the worst thing you show up to a show and you got like a random crew in there. And a random time starting 10 minutes late. Don't get worried about that here. And for the majority of this NFL season, it's going to be this trio here. And we're excited, man, we're back.

2:03Joking before we go, went on the show. It's like, man, NFL season ends and everyone's a little bit sad. And say, oh, we've got six months before football. And man, that's six months raised by super quick. And once this season starts going on, we always talk about it like enjoy every week. Because the season goes by fast. But I guess it's the overarching point that. Time just goes by very fast. So you got to enjoy everything. And we're going to enjoy this football season, going to enjoy this game. I love that we got the Wednesday's tarant. We got the Thursday game tomorrow. Like the NFL branching out to different days. I think makes a ton of sense. We'll have shows for all the big slides, the two game slates, the three game slates throughout the season Thanksgiving, all that. I got the Super Bowl rematch, big money up top, a lot of preseason stuff. In terms of best ball, you got the survivor stuff. So much to talk about. It's going to be a fun season excited to be back with you guys excited to dive into this game. The energy, the, the, the hoopdomism. It's like optimism, but it's hoop. That's I went to him first because now I'll bring my man title in.

3:04He's going to tell us how the season's about to end sooner than we know it. And it's true. It is. But we got to enjoy it now. And title I'm excited to be back here with you, man, talking to football. And you've been grinding in the MMA streets, grinding in the best ball streets, grinding on pretty much everything. I was in Vegas with you, grinding the Blackjack tables on arrival, grinding the Crab's tables, the pass line teaching me and my wife some stuff. It was great time in Vegas with you, man. What's going on my friend? Happy to be back in the booth here with you. Yeah, I'm happy to be back. I mean, MLB is fun as it is. And I will say, I mean, we still have, I mean, early slate, locks in an hour. I'm in the streets. You can check out our content. Cald football is here, which comes right around this time. I'm in May in my backyard this week. So a lot of sports. But as we all know, NFL takes reign with all, I mean, 100 or 200 K up top on fan duel, which no one's even talking about because of a million draft Kings, but so much money to be made. Then we get to run it back tomorrow. Which will be here for Saturday, college football, MMA, Sunday, of course, NFL, Monday NFL. Yeah, this time of year, it just never stops. But that's what we love. We love talking football so much money to be made.

4:05And yeah, a lot of cool improvements over here at Chippin' Nation, just a stone 2.0. We have in a lot of different sports, but I was checking that out. I know you'll hit plenty of marketing. But yeah, I'm excited for some football, hopefully some money to be made or money is to be made. Hopefully it's us making the money and some Chippin' Nation logos at the top. Yeah, if it's not us, hopefully it's you guys. But like you said, a couple things, the chat, just on the shows and stuff, want to make sure people know it. So you're here. It's a free YouTube show. We're going to be here every Monday and Thursday at 2 PM Eastern, this same crew that you know and love for the showdown shippers. And there's going to be the Wednesday one this week that you're on right now with us, Thursday coming up again tomorrow, 2 PM Eastern on Fridays. Titles going to be breaking down the cash game countdown. It's just a very fast. Like nowadays, a lot of people know what's going on, but knowing from someone like title that plays in these streets heavily and just those little moves that you can make and just sort of account down of who are the top 3D position, that type of thing that he wants to break it down from. That's going to be on Fridays Saturday. It's not up here yet, but we'll be leverage Lane with Blickel and myself. Then on Sunday, it's not both are not here. The Sunday Shipper show with the same trio, 9 AM Eastern is going to be every Sunday.

5:09And then after that, actually starting at 11 a.m. or no, what is it? It's 11.30. We went in active, come out. So 11.30 AM Eastern on Sundays. People have a new show called Contrary in Constructions. And I'm excited for this one. It's Belman and Ham, two of the most contrarian people I know about very good at taking down large field tournaments. If you want to figure out how to win a million dollars on Sunday, that's going to be the best way to go about it for some of these different constructions that you can do. So take down breakdowns on Monday. Won't go away. You won't see them all up here yet. But make sure you're subscribed to this channel. It's free to do so. Very easy. Fast tracking everything for you guys so we can get right into the content. The early bird special is almost over 3.49. It includes Sabersim. It includes shipping games. If you saw today on X, just go to X at Ship at Nation real quick, set it very simply. Most sites aren't even giving away a thousand dollar reward of any kind. We're giving away 45,000 dollars, cash and prizes to our community. Nobody else does that. Why?

6:09Because it costs them money. And they want to keep all that money for the company and for themselves. It costs us money. We want to give it all back. We want the community to be able to enjoy this thing. And it is going to be awesome. We did give away a bunch of money last year. It can only grow. But if you want to check it out, go to ship at Nation on X. The details are there or ship at games.com. And you can see the entire breakdown. Whoop and I talked about it last week as well. As title said real quick, just so you guys see for NFL focusing on tonight, we've simplified everything else across the site. But for tonight, we've got your projections. So you'll be able to see those as we go. You can download the Excel, the CSV, the copy. You can sort them, patten, flex, draft, things, band, dole. We cover both sites here. So that's important to note. If you go back here, you go to the stone. You've got the normal stone. It's on there or you can download the PDF or even the XLSX file to be able to download and work from your own stone. You can go to the stone 2.0. We will be using this today to show you. We now have a lineup hand builder. You can save your lineup inside saving it. You can then download it, upload it, whatever you want to do, it's all there for you guys

7:11to be able to go through it. So we'll spend some more time on that throughout. And then we have the slate station. I'm not going to load this one yet. Just because we're still working on some stuff in the back end. But that will feature all the cores from everybody at the site. And then our man, BG Little Neck, who was dialed in last year in the NFL, NBA, soccer, esports, et cetera, you name him all. He's there. Tennis, I think too, like just everything. And he's got the NFL showdown tower that's going to be up for you guys. And it's all going to be interactive. It's almost like the tower 2.0 where you're going to be able to sort through that and see it there. Anything else I miss or anything else you want to add before we hop into this? No sir, excited to see the names back in the chat. Our guide Derek, community was with us all last season, new school year, different teaching locations. So I guess congratulations. I'm assuming it's good move for you. But same game plan, independent work for the students during the 2pm Eastern hour. So I love seeing our guys show back up for NFL season. Yeah, me too. It's definitely fun. Nades mentioned the pass line winners. That was insane. I love Nades word. And Tyler, he kept saying we rinsed him.

8:12By the way, Ham speaking of contrarian constructions on Sunday. I never seen someone add a table game in my life, feeling it as much as our guy Hamlet was on the crafts table. This guy's like Chevy Chase at the one with rock paper scissors, except he's playing the real game for real money. He rinsed them too though. So congrats to Ham and decided to see him in Bellman on Sundays, breaking it all down. There's also another show speaking of our man Nades, by the way. The Sunday sweatdown. And I'm excited for this one too. The Sunday night football show this year, free again, like all of our shows are you guys. Make sure you subscribe. The Sunday sweatdown will be a Sunday night football show at 6pm Eastern. So much closer to lock now. So you're going to get all the up to date news, the latest and greatest when it comes to that. But they'll also be able to sweat the slate at hand. So that's going to be fun with as people are coming down the stretch tournaments that they're in. Other stuff that they can find it. It's going to be a good sweat for you guys. I think you're going to enjoy it. And the last thing I wanted to showcase. I'm going to use this throughout the show. I think it's actually pretty cool. But if you guys haven't checked it out yet, our partnership with dfs os calm.

9:14It's just very simple. DFS os calm. You go there. It's the operating system for daily fantasy. This is pretty cool though. And anybody who uses code ship it gets 50% off for the entire NFL season. So it's like a $99 plan marked down to 59. You guys can get it for $29 a month. It's a dollar a day. But I'll give you an example. It's got all kinds of stuff on here, but a slate review I was doing before the show. And I was I remembered by the way because we're about to get to AJ Brown here in a minute. I was like, didn't AJ Brown let us down before on a showdown slate? And wasn't it the very first slate to start the season? And so I went back and I said, okay, let me look. All the data's in here from five plus years. But I went to September of last year. And I scroll back to the very first slate of the season. And I said, yes, it was Dallas at Philadelphia to start the year last year where Jahan Dotson out did AJ Brown at like $6,000 less. And last year for people wondering with $171,000 entries, it was a $15 buy-in. It was a million dollars to first.

10:14This lineup chopped it up, I think 14 or maybe 10 ways. Anyway, it was Javante Williams at the captain had Barkley, Hertz, CD Lamb, Aubrey, Jahan Dotson. So AJ Brown failed everybody last year. I remember that. And we'll see if he does that this week. But if you guys show me the salary on that team, the total spend. I'm not the best at it yet to be able to find that. Yeah, well, I'm just curious because I'm assuming it was probably way, way under the salary cap number if I recall correctly. Yeah, I'm actually wondering just quickly because we're live. But anyway, this is what's cool about, I'm going to use it for the news. I know we're waiting on, say, Horton news or something like that. It has the ability to update all that. But I'm going to try and see what day was it. It was Thursday the fourth. Well, someone in chat will find it. Yeah, I'd have to find it and go back through, but just noting it. But yeah, the other thing is like this, I like the news section because if we're looking stuff up on the fly, especially us doing this, it's like this is the latest from 21 hours ago, but it talks about Horton as questionable for Wednesday. So I'll be able to find this throughout all the night, all the sports.

11:15If you want perfect lineups, you can go look them up as the Slates update. There's a bankroll tracker, all of that. But if you guys want to check it out, go to dfsos.com, use code ship it. You get 50% off. We're going to use it a bunch. I got the stone 2.0 here. And title, I'll kick it to you first. Just a little bit of a back in action situation here with getting showdown to start things off as we usually do, but it's a Wednesday night. A lot of talk around these two teams. Obviously, it wasn't the best super ball, if you will. I don't know how much you like the bad bunny performance or whatever else might have been. But at the end of the day, the game itself was obviously very one-sided. What's your thoughts coming into a new season, whether bringing that across, showdown strategies, different factors, what's your thoughts coming into this first game of the season? Yeah, well, first when you brought up that game, it just clicked. That's what Jaylen Carter spit on deck and got ejected right away. So that was quite the way to start off the year. And the whole line, the live line switched like a point. So that was kind of crazy. But yeah, I mean, I was surprised to see that there's only three point favorites where the

12:15Seahawks. When you are looking at Patriots coming in to Seattle, what happened? The last time we saw these two teams play. With that being said, obviously the Patriots, they got AJ Brown. That's the biggest one on both teams, for sure. For Seattle though, no Kenneth Walker. So he leaves. Sharbinay is obviously starting on the pop. He's hurt for a while, so they're going to be rocking with a rookie in price to start it off. So some more unknowns on the Seattle side right now, whereas the Patriots only got better, at least on the offensive side of the ball. Two good teams, two good defenses, two teams that we expect to be in the running toward the end of the year, going to the 12th man in Seattle is not an easy place to play. So you can see a low total at 44 and a half, a little juice on the under there anytime you see that. And also I always think like, especially earlier in the year with teams not playing as much as they have in the past in the preseason, I do expect offenses to lag a little bit outside of the premiere offenses. So that's something to note as well with the low total we have. When I see low totals, I think that is easier to leave money on the table to get more crazy.

13:21Like we saw with the Dotson, I mean one throw, I think it was like a 60 yard catch Dotson had. And right there, he surpassed so many other guys, there's just more variance when there is more three in the outs when the offenses don't get going as much. And there's more wiggle room to go down from like a Shaheed to a Cooper Cop, a 1v1 or stuff like that. It's also just tying it all to the game we played, daily fantasy, salary, ownership game. Huge prizes. This is the first game of the Slates. You're looking at over 100,000, like 132,000 entrance on draft kings, about 80,000 on fan duel. What is your goal today? Are you playing three lineups in that thing and you're fine chopping it 300 ways. You'll get thousands of thousands of dollars. If that's your strategy, know that. Me personally, I'm not going to go so crazy where I'm like going to go for under 10 dupes that's going to be pretty tough with this big of a field that is possible. But I also personally, I'm going to max it out. I'm not trying to look for 100 plus dupes. So I'm going to play a little more aggressive, but I'm still going to play the best place.

14:21The JSN's that capped in, the AJ Brown's that capped in, whatever it may be. So I think you should have a game plan coming into the Slate. What's your risk tolerance? What are you looking to get out of this Slate? If you're building for the $20, 132,000 people, you should build that a lot different than that $100 single entry with 11, 100 people. So that's just the broad slate for me. Think about the contest you're in. It's more than just, all right, AJ Brown's going to go off today. So we're playing him that capped and you still got to get other stuff right? Agreed. Yeah. What do you have to add there, man? Your grand scheme overview for this game here. We've got Patriots at the Seahawks, Seahawks favored at home a little bit smaller. It looks like Jordan found it. I was looking it up as well as we go here. But you have 49, 100, which is interesting, right? 900 bucks. I wasn't like to let left a bunch on. That's a 10 way chop for all top 10 prizes, including the million. So I know a lot of people would be very happy with $124,000, whatever it is on night one, just to kick your season off early. But go ahead and hope I'll let you jump in. Yeah, man. So I mean, just going back to that point, it's a perfect example where it's just like one play can just make the difference in showdown.

15:23Just like in one little pivot, I'm sure there's a lot of wide receivers or receivers. A lot of guys on the slate priced right around Dotson. He was low-owned and that was the key to the slate. So like, oh, I think a lot of people when they think showdown, they think they got to do something wild and crazy. And sometimes you do. Don't get me wrong. Sometimes you do need the wild and crazy stuff. The defense and the captain's going to hit from time to time. Like sometimes you need that. But a lot of times is you just need like one sort of pivot on a lineup that makes sense. So that's one thing to think about when building teams tonight. In terms of the overview, I agree with mostly what title was saying. This is a game that screams to me. Slow offensive start to the season. Seattle. It's always a tough place to go play at. It's super loud. These offenses are obviously going to be little lacking compared to where they'll be in three or four weeks down the road. So I wouldn't be surprised if this was an uglier grinded out game.

16:25And that's not saying it's a guarantee. I mean, could it be 35-32? Yeah, sure. Absolutely. But I am going to kind of lean towards an uglier sort of game, which to me, in terms of roster construction means leaving a lot of salary on the table, like big, big chunks where you see maybe what's certain pivots that could pay off. Just one example would be, I don't know, like AJ Brown down to AJ Barmer or something, even 5,000 on the table. There's a lot of situations that we'll talk about. As we go through the show, I am typically someone that shies away from playing defenses. I think on tonight's slate, I want to be on the defenses a little bit more than normal, which if you guys have been watching these shows, it's typically not the case for me. So I'm going to be open to a lot of different sort of roster constructions tonight because of how I think this game could go. And I wouldn't be surprised if it's like, I don't know, 17 to 14 or something like that.

17:30So it's kind of my thoughts. But again, we'll go through the positions. We'll go through the captains. We're not looking at ownership and what some common builder going to be in Sivo can end up with here at the end of the show. Yeah, tying both of those together, one thing I want to throw in quick is just that, if you talk about, you know, everything Hupa just said with how the game could play out. And if you see it that way and you talk about what title said, I think you put both together and say that you could see like a really ridiculous captain or a bunch of money left on the table. Because if you have a lower scoring game, everyone just assumes, well, then I better just put Ramondra in the captain. I better just put JSN in the captain. But if they, you know, if it's 17 14 and they're not really part of the plan, it's five for 50 or five for 40, yes, they could still show up in the flex. But I'm just saying, or if it's 18 rushes for 60 yards and then doesn't get a TD or something like that for Ramondra, it's like, your captain could be anybody who's part of those 17 points or part of those 14 points. So when you look at it from that perspective, it's not only could it be a unique captain, but it could leave money on the table. Somebody asked earlier, I've only got my first run. This is definitely not final, but the lowest I see right now, and this I'll add to this

18:35in a second, but I see like 43, I see 43, 5, 44, 7, like I see a lot of these. And I'm playing for lower doops as most people know in these tournaments, but they're not crazy linups. It's typically involving things like if you have defense instead of an AJ Brown or a quarter of J, Myers instead of Rick of JSN or something like that. And it's like, it's just it could be that type of situation. And another thing people always think like a low scoring game means, well, that must mean the JSN's even better than it could be because he wasn't involved. They didn't get to the points and they don't get anything there. Now, when you're playing a higher dollar or smaller field or both, you got to remember what you're playing up against, right? Your less teams, people are maxing, like they're spending 49, 5 and above. So you don't have to be trying to figure out what is the correct 46,200 dollar team just to leave money. But in the large field tournament with a million bucks up top and you wanting to get a like title always talks with us, you know, same in line with like 10 doops or less. Hard dough is get that. But if you're kind of playing for that angle, yes, then it's not, I'm not really looking

19:35at the portfolio beyond looking at it. If it says this line up, you know, solid and it's 45,600, probably just leaving it. And I've got lineups in other places that can maneuver around that. So you could definitely do this. It just remember it's your pride. If you're thinking about this, someone else probably is too. And so you're probably getting to that lineup with Ramandran JSN. Well, now flip the captain do whatever you want. It's probably not going to be that different as it stands out. There is like, you know, show the guy here. Tyler says, dobs could go over, look, they're going to focus. Like I think dobs will get to all this later. But dobs Kyle Williams, who else is there? Mac Hollins, the other side you flip it. Like some of the names are going to get talked about, but not all of them are going to be able to get clicked enough. That's oftentimes a better place to look. I know a lot of people look for this diamond in the rough of if, you know, I don't know who's up there. If what if so and so gets injured and so and so comes in and you get these points from them, it's like that would mean I'd get the whole million bucks. Like yeah, you would need all that shit to happen.

20:35And then you would need the rest of your lineup to go correct, including the correct captain, including everything else to fall your way. So does it take some luck? Yeah, but you can play sharper or smarter and still build the lineups in a way where you're not needing that to necessarily happen. There's lots of overlooked plays title. I'll go back to you. Let's start with the captain conversation. I mean, we're, you know, looking at cash games from your perspective. I think we're probably looking at JSN up top. But one thing I will say is that the chat's already talking about is like, you know, how he got shut down in the Super Bowl. And, you know, I'm going to be underweight on him tonight. I like these other guys. What do you sort of see the ownership shaking out like a captain from a top three perspective? And then what are you doing up at the captain yourself? Or how are you thinking about it? Yeah, I do think JSN will come in number one at captain. Now, is it going to be 20%? Is it going to be 17%? I think it's somewhere around there. But he is the highest projected player on the slate pretty much everywhere you go. And I mean, that's relatively rare for a receiver. And then we talked about salary being soft.

21:36So because salary is soft, it's easy to fit him up top. And then I think the next two highest will probably be Ramondrey and Drake May. The talk with Ramondrey. I can see him getting steam in the flex and captain. I would not be surprised if he doesn't come off the field today. It's obviously a very important game. No traviant Henderson. He should be back. I assume probably next week, if not the week after. So they can run him out there as much as they want. Good pass blocker can catch a ball out of the backfield. And it's also the price tag. When you're looking at JSN at 10.6, Ramondrey is 8.4. Drake May is 10K. So it feels like AJ Brown 9.6. So you do get a decent amount of savings for someone that's not going to leave the field that can do everything. I think he's the one that does get, or I am worried that gets the most steam. And I think we have it pretty good. Again, JSN, everyone keeps talking about it. He did nothing in the Super Bowl. Christian Gonzalez, all this stuff. I hope people are worried. I mean, I know I'm going to play JSN. Again, it's easy to play him. Just look what he did last year. Very, very few games that he absolutely done in.

22:39That was one of them. I hope the recency bias does carry over. Because they're going to find ways to get JSN the ball. Whether it's a quick, wide receiver screen, or whatever it may be. He's going to touch it, I think early and often. So yeah, JSN, Stevenson, Drake, May, I think are the highest. And then I would go AJ Brown. Again, salaries, week on this, or salaries, loose on this slate. There are some value that we can get to. It's easy to play all of them. Going in, you want my captain thoughts? Or like, yeah, go ahead, you can keep working. You're good. Yeah, I'm going, JSN for sure. Drake May would be my second favorite. I can maybe argue that he be my favorite at ownership. And the reason I love Drake May a lot. We talk about it with Josh Allen. I'll call him a Dollar Tree version. But he can run. You don't need to pair him with anybody. And he also has so many pairings that you can go to. Isn't Matt Collins. Is it Kyle Williams? Is it Pop Douglas? Romeo Dobbs. Like, there's so many. And then you can just, all right, maybe he runs in a touchdown or two touchdowns. So I love the ability to play, even though he is getting ownership, playing Drake May in so many different ways. And I'm definitely fine playing Seahawks defense against Drake May.

23:42We saw how they pinned their ears back and what they did to him in the Super Bowl. And if they do get out 21, 7 or whatever it may be, and he has to play catch up and drop back a million times, that's good for the defense and Drake May. So I love how many different ways I can play him. Whereas when you play JSN, then usually you're going darn old in the flex and it gets a little more concentrated. Stevenson's the one because I do think he gets the steam that I play not being lighter at the captain's spot. We'll definitely play him in the flex. Again, the usage, he will have is great. But I think he gets keyed in on a lot. And with the steam, we play an ownership game. I'd rather get to other people that get different. Two of my favorites, I think, to get different are the tight ends. I'm definitely team tight ends today. Hunter Henry feels underpriced to me. Hardly going to leave the field, especially if there is pressure and Drake May face a good security blanket. So I'm in on him. Then go to the other side, AJ Barnard. We'll talk about Arroyo's stuff in the flex. But I do think Seattle is going to probably play a good amount of two tight ends this year, trying to run the football set up play action.

24:43Barnard's props are OK. I mean, 25 and a half is that great? No, but Cooper cut 29 and a half. He's 31 and a half. Dobbs 35 and a half. Like outside of AJ Brown and J.S. and it's all a jumbled mess. I think he's going to be on the field of the ton. He's a good red zone threat. We always talk about how inflated these touchdown props are on draft Kings. But he's plus 250. That's more likely to score than Dobbs. Then she he'd then Henry then Cooper cut. He's a low scoring game and you get in the box. There we go. The first of many for the year. If you get in the box with the one touchdown, you'll be you'll be sitting pretty good. So we're showing very low ownership at Captain, which I expect. Henry and Barnard, two guys that are the low on options that I'll be getting overweight with. And then you have a lot more salary to work with as well. The Barnburner, man. But you know, you get these forgot about the YouTube chat coming up with the hot takes, man. Eli Raradon, three catches, three yards, three TDs. I was going to say Arroyo. You guys know, I love members of the game last year were Donald hit Horton, Arroyo and

25:43somebody. And then I think Horton got injured right after that. But it was like that thing was lining up nice. And that's back to using these quarterbacks at Captain. I talked a ton about last year and you just mentioned Drake may being in that position. I mean, you could do Drake May and spread them out with guys. You could do Drake May in a lower scoring game, a little bit of revenge that they get back to. Maybe they find the dub here and he's got two rushing touchdowns and it could be 17, 14 for them. And that's the case. So he's back. And I say, where's Joe Mama and he comes right in? Man, that's the port right there. Joe Mama 69 V Joe Mama, you never hit me up yet. Free month, Shippet Nation, buddy. That is you waited for it. Didn't say anything and hop in at the exact moment. This guy bustled the first of the season. Hit us up info at ShippetNation.com. Screenshot your Joe Mama 69 V right out of the comments from YouTube. And we will get you set up. You got to get in the discord, bro. We got to get you in there. So. All right, lots of good thoughts here. I mean, missing our guy yo shut up to lay the house. Rob, he says, row and pads D for all the money.

26:44Darnell gonna see ghosts again. Could be that AFC. So one thing this tells me. And these are great supporters. We appreciate you guys as always back with us here again for another season. Says a lot interesting Ram captain. I think title you called it the community of sites and stuff that we keep our eye and our eye on the ball around here. They're much higher on JSN in the captain than we are. And like we're talking much higher in these like small edges. It's like three to five percent, but it's it's about the steam and the moonwalk. Rest in peace to our big guy in the sky DGN 75. We celebrated him in Vegas, you know, just shortly ago, but he would talk about the moon in the steam walk. I think what's happening here is as the steam walking here. So the steam walking we're mixing together now, but as the moon walking happens on JSN and some of the conversation this steam. And by the way, the Sims love Ramandrey. Why? Because he's coming in too low. So that's steaming up to. Simming up, if you will. And so once that's happening, then people are like, well, I better get 30% of them. And now if a lot more people are getting that percentage of him, now his 14 becomes 16

27:45to 18 to like whatever it ends up at. So I'd be very interested to see where that one finishes up today. But I thought you did a good job breaking down everything there. I want to get hoop thoughts. Who we got you talking about defenses in week one game one as well. That's everyone's talking about, you know, we know you love the double kicker, but defense. Are there any defenses in the captain and then give us the rest of your thoughts and add on to what title just said? I'm not going that route. I mean, I'm sure people will because a lot of people are going to look at this game and see that it could be low score. And they saw, you know, it kind of was slugging out in the Super Bowl. So yeah, I think people will play it. I'm not playing it. I'm talking strictly flex. I'm usually not even on defenses in the flex. So that's that's baby steps in that direction for me. In terms of captain, I think the JSN stuff, I think it is going to get steamed up just because salaries just so, so there's, I mean, salaries just not a factor today. If you just go in there and build teams based on projections, you're just going to get a ton of JSN because you can play them in the captain and really not sacrifice all that

28:48much. I mean, he's already pretty cheap. You put him in the captain. You still have almost $7,000 per spot. So like you can still build whatever you really, whatever you want. You put him one cheap play with that. Then you're back up to 8,000 per spot. So JSN in the captain is going to probably get steamed up if we want to use that term. I want to be surprised. We're showing 18 right now. I wouldn't be surprised if it's closer to like mid 20s. And you know, depending on what you think of JSN, I mean, it is not a guy that I'm going to unclick because the ownership might get up there. I mean, he could absolutely, you know, nuke this late. I mean, he has, he's one of those players that doesn't even need to really find the end zone to be the guy you need. He could break up eight catches for 140 or something like that, nine for 150. So definitely in play, but I do think the ownership comes up to other guy where I think the ownership definitely comes up on is a Ramon Grace Stevenson. And I'm a little more worried about him, I'd say, then like a lot of other captains on

29:51the slate because the price is clearly too cheap. He's priced as if Henderson were to be in. I mean, Henderson was a part of this slate. Obviously, Henderson's price was $7,600 Ramon Grace 84. So now you get Ramon Grace who, you know, title thinks could potentially be on the field the entire game, which I think I'm a little, we'll talk about some of the backup guys when we get there and talk about flags. But I do think he will come off at least a little bit. But man, I'm a little worried about the ownership in the cap. And I think it will come up. I think we have it at 16. Yeah, maybe it won't come up too much more. Maybe, you know, 20 or something. But he's another guy, 8400. You put him in that captain spot. Yeah, you're at like $7,500 per spot. You can do whatever the hell you want with the Ramon Grace up top and people are going to see that Henderson's up. People are going to see that he does get a lot of action in the passing game. So good with those two.

30:52Little more worried about Ramon. I think, but like for me, Drake may, I think, a phenomenal play because I think with JS in my eyes, right? This is my opinion with JSN maybe coming up a little bit. Ramon, maybe coming up a little bit. I think it will take away from some of these other guys in Drake may. I think it's a really good point that title brought up like a mini Josh Allen where he will take off. Like he'll, he can get 60 yards on the ground. If he does happen to find the end zone on his feet, then you're essentially free rolling the rest of the game with Drake May. And like is he the captain that you need? So I like him a lot. I do really like AJ Brown. I guess, you know, part of the reason I'm not in love with Ramon Grace, I think that the Patriots struggled to run here a little bit. And again, Ramon Grace can get there through the passing game. So I am more interested in the Patriots passing game. Drake May, AJ Brown. I would include dobs in there. I definitely like the Hunter Henry call. I like these tight ends up top. I mean, these guys are looking like got Hunter Henry yet,

31:57two and a half percent. Like what can Hunter Henry do in this game? I think Hunter Henry could go five for 50 with two touchdowns. Right? And that's boom, boom, 10, quick math with that 22 points. Right? Like, you know, I'll take that for sure. On the other side, I definitely barner. And you look at the receiver room for Seattle. You got JSN, you got Cooper Cup, you got Shaheed. I mean, Cup and Shaheed, they're not to me. They're not what they want. So like, Barner could be the next guy in line to kind of get targets. And I agree also with title that, you know, they're probably going to play a lot of two tight ends. So he's going to be on the field. So I think those tight ends are really interesting plays. Price on the on Seattle, and trusted in him again with with a lot of people, I think going to Ramandre, I think price could come down in ownership. We're only showing six and a half percent. Like six and a half percent. He's the main guy. Obviously there was Sharba Neow.

32:58I think he's a really good place. So just kind of ranking my guys when you factor in ownership, it's going to be like AJ Brown, Drake May are probably my two favorites. And then I would start to look at some of those tight ends because they're going to be unowned. I am going to include JSN obviously. He's going to be a big part of what I do. But again, when you factor in the ownership, it's going to be a little bit different. Ramandre in play, not as exciting for me, just because I think the ownership comes up. But, you know, not much interest in like Shaheed or Cooper Cup or the kickers or the defense. It's not a ton in Sam Darnold either. Like, his ownership, we're showing eight. So he will be kind of low on. So if you do like him, I mean, if you play 15% at Sam Darnold Captain, you're going to be double the field. So those are kind of my thoughts at the captain position. Yeah, took a long time for either of you to mention him and hoop just got to him. And I think it was a good call. But Bob Barker tonight, baby, the price is right. I think that's one of the better Captain plays as a whole.

33:59I think somebody mentioned it earlier. If you look at the Super Bowl, it was all Kenneth Walker for Seattle. I don't think he got in the box, fell in the box, I should say. But it was something like 135 yards on the ground. Six and a half percent. Like if that number holds like, that's just has to be a good play when you're factoring in ownership. Yeah. So I think that's important too. And people do factor, again, they're not factoring that into your point. But I also think it's factoring in the build. If we're talking about JSN up top, who's leveraged to him? How about the running back, jamming it in? Well, that sounds good. If we're talking about, oh, but Ramandre is on the other side. He's the must have guy. What if the game script changes? And it's the other side. So it's like almost triple leveraging. Because you're from separation standpoints, because you're getting lower captain ownership, an actual game script that could favor him and would flip against two of the guys that are going to be the most popular up top. So I think that's what makes it interesting. Now, if you also think the game could be lower scoring or even if it's higher, it could go that way. Well, then it kind of makes some of my other captain decisions like you guys had already talked about. Drake, may. Interesting. Can spread it out. Lots of different options.

35:00AJ Brown, Dobbs, Henry. If they're behind and got a throw, now I can get price in the flex. Maybe the game plays a little lighter there. So I think there's some situations like that. And then just from a build perspective, because these guys added a bunch of good comments there, I just want to make sure that was in there. The five ones, both sides, don't see a lot. Like almost every build we talk about or go build your stuff. Go look at it. If you built 10 line, I've already go look how many are five ones. And some of you say, I'll go some. Sure, I'm just saying overall. It doesn't look like many people are going that route on either side. Almost every build ends up a three three or a four two in some way, shape or form, regardless of how you see the game playing, just the way the pricing sets up. So I think that's somewhat interesting. And I also think the two fours are very interesting tonight. I talked about earlier, what if you've got Ramondre and the Patriots D and then four sea ox in the flex because it's him on the ground and then them having to come back? What if you've got Drake May and one other player and he does most of the work himself and legs on the ground, lower scoring game and it's the other side coming back? You can do it a bunch of different ways, but I think the two four is interesting.

36:02I will note somebody in the chat talked about the stone 2.0, loving it and how easy it is to use and all that. Just so you guys see, it's all fully functional now. Right? You can swap from Captain to Flex. We're going through captains right now. The ownership changes on the fly. It's the simplest tool to use. If you've got a computer in front of you and be able to just hand build something out and see the total ownership is there, the breakdown per person. You can lock a captain, see what the optimal that with that captain looks like. You can build a bunch of different, like you can do whatever you want with this thing. Pretty much, it'll tell you all the money you've got left over. It'll tell you anything you want to know as you're building out and then you can just go through position by position. This is not the final stone. So when it updates, you'll be able to see even more. But right now it's just showing you how you can utilize this to your advantage. All right, we talked a little bit about quarterbacks already, title, but anything just on the Darnold or Drake Mayfront that you want to add from Flex. Stand point or just how you're thinking about using them? Yeah, I didn't talk about Darnold enough, but I think Darnold's in a lead play in 9400 because it's not only JSN, of course, like he's the main one,

37:06but he's going to have a much bigger role this year. We saw a Cooper Cup did in the Super Bowl. There's Barnor, there's a Royal price. Hullani, we'll get there at running back, but he's going to be more of a pass catcher that you can pair him with. So when you are playing Darnold, I think more than like, or Darnold, that captain, more than likely you probably want to pass catchers with him. But Torrey Horton news is actually pretty important as well. Everything's important for one game slate, but I'm not going to be building before an act is with Torrey Horton stuff. I'm almost kind of hoping he's out because I feel better about Cooper Cup and Shaheed and almost to Royo as well for even more two tight ends set. But I talked a lot about Drake May, I did it with Darnold. I'm definitely in though it's sub 10% Darnold that captain. Anything you want to add with those two, or if not, you can take us into running back from there. But I think quarterback, people are pairing them up. We talked about that. It's going to matter more, in my opinion, at least when we get there of what we're doing with the alternatives. Like if you're not playing those guys, or if you are playing them and what you want to put them with, that's going to come up at running back wide receiver and tight end. But anything on the quarterback position,

38:07as a whole that you want to add or at the flex spot as well. The only thing that I have with Drake May, I mean another reason that I do really like him up top is a lot of different ways to pair him up. You can don't even necessarily need a pair with the past catcher. He can score one or two touchdowns on the ground. You have a tight end to play him with. You have a running back you can play him with. You can definitely throw a reminder. He could end up with six or seven receptions. That's in the cards and you have wide receivers and some cheap wide receivers to pair him with. So definitely, as we're talking through it, like him even more up top. And again, I think it's not going to be low on, but I think he has a chance to come down a little bit because I do see JSN and Ramondray kind of coming up. Just to talk about those running backs a little bit more, in the Flax Ramondray 84, I mean, very, I'd say high floor play today with the reception upside. Has a solid projection, has a very fair price.

39:07Ownership obviously is going to be massive. He's underpriced for the role that he will have. But just when I talk about the cap, and I kind of mentioned it quickly, but I do think price is a really, really good play today. And I know Holan, he's going to get some work and people are excited to play him. I think he's fine in the Flux as well. But man, I think price, I mean, again, it's tough to take what people say in the preseason because everybody in the preseason looks phenomenal. Best shape of their life, best camp of their life, has looked phenomenal at practice. Like, I've seen a couple of comments in the chat. I just let them go, but like 99% of players in the NFL are going to have great reviews from training camp, from practice, from practice sessions, from inner team scrimmages, from scrimmages, facing other teams. They all look phenomenal. Like, it's never a bad report. That's somebody, there's never reported that says they look bad at training camp.

40:08Everyone's in the best shape of their lives. Blah, blah, blah. I get all that stuff. But price, like a lot of people like them before the training camp stuff and all that stuff. I think he's a really good play in the Flux. I like him in the captain as well. Hullani at 4200. You know, the nice thing about him is he's one of those guys to me that can, has the potential to get it all in one drive, what you need out of him. Like, if it's the going into the half and he gets that last drive, he's 4200, he can pick up three to four catches, like in one drive, he could get 30, 40 yards. And like, that's all you might need from him in the Flux. He's kind of like a, who's a guy, like, P-Rime. We always say that about P-Rime. Like, if he's in there at the end of a half, like, he has the chance to get everything he needs in that little two-minute drill. The same thing with Hullani. So I think he's a great play. The tough part is with these Patriots guys because it's dudes like, I'm not going to pretend like I know a lot about

41:10Cory, Kinner, or this Haskins guy. But to me, like, I just can't imagine on game one of the regular season that Remindray gets like 30 touches here. So I think somebody's going to have to get some work. The names aren't comfortable, but Cory, Kinner at 2,400, like, I just need to play some of him. Stevenson has had fumble issues in the past. Someone mentioned it in the chat. If he fumbles once, are they going to yank him? Hell no. Like, they're still going to roll with him. They don't have an option. But what if he fumbles twice? And they have to give somebody else an opportunity. So I do want to include these guys in my player pool. Definitely want to cap it a little bit. You don't want like 20% of these Patriots backups. But I do think there's a chance for one of them to get some work here. So yeah, I mean, you got options here. You got Stevenson, you got Price, you got Hualani, and then the Patriots backups. But I'm definitely when you factor in everything again,

42:14Price would be my favorite running back tonight. Yeah, I really like him. Like I said, even up in the captain, there's just a ton of different leverage points that you're going to get with him. And in a game script that could end up making sense in that favor as well. Tyler, I want to go to you. The big thing here is with Hualani. You talked to him earlier. The chat was talking about being a pass catcher. Maybe it's Price at the goal line, which one wins out. How does that end up working out? But one thing we can definitely tell is that Hualani is getting ownership. So it's not going to be kinder as much as you'll see as Haskins. As any of that, they're going to, you know, maybe show up in even when people get a whole portfolio of lineups, they might get, you know, one to three percent of those guys typically, unless they want to boost something. What is your thoughts on Hualani? And then if any type of action on using those guys or how to fill it in with them, if you were going that route? Yeah, I definitely like Hualani. He's going to get ownership. But I mean, his real props is one and a half reception prop minus 158 on the over. He's the third down back, especially if you do think this game plays kind of toward the under. And Seattle gets him more third and long stuff.

43:14You're going to see a bunch of him. Price is the rookie. We'll handle more of the early down work. And then they have a manual Wilson, maybe like a third and one. You'll see Wilson trot in or something like that. But it seems very clear Hualani is going to play almost all third downs in high impact situations in terms of pass catching. And what a price just looks terrible to starter. Can't get anything going. Maybe Hualani does mix in on a second down here there in base work. Two-minute drill like Hoops talking. I think there's a lot of ways for Hualani to get there. Yes, he is showing ownership. But when you play him, maybe that's when you're playing Barnard at Captain or maybe that's where you're leaving 3k to drop down from Romeo Dobbs or I didn't do the math, but whatever it is. Hualani's going to be on the field. I'm definitely going to play him. He's also plus 205 to score, which is fifth on this slate. And again, those numbers are terrible. I'm not saying go and bet touchdown props. But it does show that he does have outs. We think it's going to be price at the goal line and stuff. But what if it's second and four and first in goal at the four-yard line

44:15and price just broke off a big run and needs a break? There comes Hualani for a touchdown. So I think he has so many outs to get there. Yeah, I mean, I think you guys know me and Hoop definitely disagree on how the Patriot backfield's going to go. I do not see Kiner playing much. I don't see Haskins really playing at all. Kiner has a 10 rushing prop. JuS on the under. I think Stevenson, again, it's game one. It's a huge game. I mean, it's three point spreads. Super Bowl, like, Vrable's going to want to win this. And having Travion being able to come back after injury and not playing today, I think gives them a lot more outs. They have a long week, of course, playing on Wednesday. I just don't see Vrable trusting. Kiner Haskins, any of that. So I'm hardly going to play any. Kiner will be the one I mix in a little bit. He's 2% on. So if I am wrong, you have 2% or 3% in your portfolio and you get lucky there in 150 max. That's the way to go. But if I was playing like 10 teams or less, yeah, I think it's Stevenson. And I don't really see him coming off the field. Got to bring up this comment, right?

45:17Quick. Tamba hoop title. I'll look phenomenal after this offseason, boys. Got to love the early, nice, complimentary stuff. So we got to bring that one up. Shout out to our guy, Laila Howe. Shout out to BJ, checking in from the office. Hope everything's well with you as well. My man, appreciate you. And definitely enjoy having you here just to join us to start the season. And then our guy, Dullabill, running the CFB streets with Hamhawk and I'm Robbins and Smarty every day. Seems like every day now says, Haskins, a fourth rounder in 2022 on his 13th. Exactly the guy I expect you to give 15 to 20 snaps to. Yeah, we didn't go that way sometimes. But yeah, we, I think what wasn't on the chargers when we were following him more and expecting him to get used over there and then it just didn't pan out. So it's like he said, keeps getting moved around. I will comment on this. This is what I said earlier. So I'll tell you two sides to this story. It's like, because to me, it's like, when people say this, they're probably going to do something very bad. But you could still do it. What I said earlier is like an example too. If it's a lower scoring game, you're right. Hullani could get two goal line touchdowns, 17, 14, 17, 17, 7 Seattle wins.

46:18It's like, oh, damn, you kind of did need him. But people hear that. And that's why I said, a weird captain could happen, et cetera, et cetera. But go look at your Hullani captain lineup right now and fill it out. And when it's got JSN and Drake May or Mondrae Stevenson and the same, if I got Hullani captain, he probably comes with $5,000 on the table. So just keep that in mind. It's going to be very hard to hand build the magic version of that, where it's valuable. Because if most people have something like that or the cheaper captains up top, they just max it out with everything else. And I know that people think about that enough. Go ahead. One thing to add onto that point too, is you really need to factor in salary on the slate and how salary is going to factor in. And this is just a very soft pricing, which is what you're going to see the first game of the season. You're going to see a week one of NFL. So it's very likely that the captain you need tonight is just the highest scoring guy on the slate, just because like factor salary is really not going to be a factor. If it's a tighter priced slate, where I don't know,

47:18you have like the ramps. Like you would need Puka and Devonthay and their plan, Sant Fran and you need Brock Purdy and Christian McCafferty. You need all those guys because they're all between like, 25 and 20 fantasy points or cheaper captain would make all that work on today's slate. It's probably just the highest scoring guy on the slate is going to be the optimal captain most likely. Agreed. Excellent, excellent point. And you word it perfectly because I just don't think enough people think about that when they're breaking it down. It seems second nature. I looked at my first run, 75% of my captains are across JSN, Drake May, Price and Ramondra. And that's just right out of the gate. Yes, I have a portfolio that can allow for some of the other stuff to fit in and they're built accordingly. But it's like Hoops said, when you get the softer pricing, you're probably just going to need the highest scoring guy up top. Typically, anything can happen. It's in slate. We always talk about shout out to my guy Kevin Garnett. We know anything is possible. But just noting it, it's the set up of the slate at hand.

48:19And that's why you got to think about that when you're going in. All right, title, anything else you want to add there, if not, I'll let you take us into the wide receiver position. It's fits the title tonight. It's wide for sure. There's a lot of options here versus the usual. We know about JSN, we know about Brown. But it does feel like everyone's just talking about the other guys. And I don't know how much to actually click them. Surprisingly enough, I do think the Shaheed steam is possible in some way, shape or form. I've seen enough people talking about them on X today. I think people are seeing defense pop and they're thinking about that double dip early on and all these different factors. But I don't know. I don't see like dobs, cup, haul and stuff. Like some of these other guys just might, we got to wait on Horton News. I don't see a lot of these guys actually getting clicked as much as people see them on the sheet and say, yeah, well, they're there too. I'd like to play a little bit of them, but I don't see them clicking them enough. What do you think? Yeah, I think you're probably right. The Hualani's, the world's Ramandre, the quarterbacks, JSN. You know, there's only so many spots you can go to. So I'll start on the Seattle side because I think it's really easy.

49:20JSN, Shaheed Cooper, Cop, I don't really think it matters too much. I mean, it matters because it's one game, but even if Tori Horton is active, I don't think you see in many snaps. Again, I think they're gonna run a lot of Barner and Arroyo and a lot of 12 personnel. And when that's the case, you take a receiver off the field, Cooper clubs clearly in the number three. So he's not always gonna be on the field. He had a great Super Bowl, a solid slot guy, but Shaheed's the one that's just staring me in the face. All the reports, the preseason, all that stuff. He's gonna have a much greater role this year in the offense. He's gonna play a lot of the 12 personnel, opposite side of JSN. We know he has burners, one play, he can take it to the house. So he's someone I've interested for sure, Captain, and the Flex, and we're only showing about 20%. So I'm hoping he doesn't get steam. I guess I wouldn't be too surprised if he did, though. Cooper Cup, I'm fine with him. Again, he's gonna be on the field a decent amount, but I am worried that they're just gonna run a lot of Arroyo, a lot of Barner kind of tipping my hand. I'm gonna play a bunch of tight ends,

50:21and that is at the expense of Cooper Cup. I think Cooper Cup makes more sense when you think the Patriots win, or the Seahawks trail, if they can't establish the run early, then they're gonna go away from probably the tight ends more, get a skill position out there, which is Cooper Cup when they are forced into more obvious throwing downs. So that's how I build, especially hand building. It's hard when you're playing 150 to narrow that down and make rules when you're playing Cup, how the teams look, but if you're doing higher dollar hand building, I do think that makes sense. And Patriot leading games. On the other side for the Patriots, it's definitely harder. It's clearly AJ Brown's number one, Romeo Dobbs is number two. Both, and not overpriced, but I mean, they do look relatively expensive. When you look at AJ Brown versus the quarterbacks versus JSN, I do think Brown's gonna be fourth on the Totem pole in terms of ownership. Dobbs, a solid price tag. It's a tough matchup though. I mean, both these secondaries are pretty good, but after those two, is it gonna be, well, I think it's pop Douglas.

51:21I feel good about that in the slot. We're showing 9% like, give me pop Douglas. I always talk about him. He really does too much because he doesn't get as many snaps. They rotate more, but he's good at football. And he can, he's a deep option for Drake, and one play, he could be the Jahan Dodson and just absolutely get there in one. So I'm gonna be overweight at 9% pop Douglas for sure. After that, is it Kyle Williams? Is it Matt Collins? The props look like they think it's gonna be Matt Collins more. Neither are really getting ownership. I don't know, man, Kyle Williams, again, preseason, when you're playing in the preseason with backups, you're already not in the best form, but they traded away booty. So I think that means they do like Collins and Williams a little bit. They're not gonna be on the field much. Max, a big body, Kyle Williams is a solid receiver. When you're playing JSN, Sam Darnold, and you're just going chalk, chalk, chalk, that's when I'll be playing these two down there. I'm not trying to think that they're gonna go out, more than likely they get zero. I think that's the case. I'm actually gonna take a little different approach. I will prefer Kyle over Mack slightly.

52:24I just think when he's out there, even if it's six naps, he has more likelihood to get the ball in some way and do something. Then Matt Collins, don't feel strongly about that, again, props disagree. Those two are just clearly the 4% and 1%. You're playing them to completely differentiate. You don't need to leave 2,000 on the table and you play them. You can pretty much zero it's salary and that's your way to get different. But Shaheed, Pat Douglas, are the two at ownership that I'm really liking. Yeah, early depth charts to our tricky, right? You see a lot of crazy stuff. You know when the season first kicks off, Shaheed does bring up a good point though. 4% for 78 in the Super Bowl with a touchdown and Jordan stole my line. I was literally just about say, who else is gonna walk in and bare feet and just go on and dummy a team for 4% for 78 and touchdown? Like this guy just, what are the odds we get something video like that? Absolutely like minus 200 minus 200. Like this guy's coming into and something weird. Like whatever it is, he does. But what's funny is these are the guys, like what title is talking about here, whether agree or disagree on the actual person,

53:24but it's like, Holland's Williams popped out. Like people, even they're not even talking about Douglas much, but even if they are, it's like still sub 10%. So that you just to titles point earlier when you've got Drake May, Darnell, JSN, AJ Brown, Ramondre, two kickers, two defenses. People like the Titan, Barnard and them, you got Price, you got, there's other guys you could mention too, but my point being, these guys just cannot get there at time. So when people are looking for like the magic button to hit this one guy down low, if whoever that's active this game, if Ryrodon is the guy, like if that's amazing, someone said earlier, three catches, three yards, three touchdowns, that happens, sure. And whatever, but it's like there's just so many other options that you can play that people know are decent enough, they even have a solid enough projection to make your lineup good, but they're not gonna get enough of them because they can't, they're just too overweight everywhere else. So I like your, I like the lot of what you said, I like to overshade undercup, feel good about that one, that's kind of where I'm at right now.

54:27I probably go more Matt Collins, but I like him and pop both. So those two would fit more than the Kyle Williams, one the Kyle Williams, I think is like a quote that came up yesterday or something, maybe I can find it here while we're doing it, but who were you at with these wide receivers, anything extra to add to these thoughts here? Yeah, kind of great with this, the Collins Solid Option and May Captain Team, that's kind of why I'm getting higher on Drake May as the show goes on because there's just so many ways to play him in the captain, you can play him with three wide, three receivers, you can play him with two receivers and the running back, you can play him with one pass catcher, you could probably play him without any of them. So yeah, just the amount of options you have in Drake May Captain teams make me more interested in him, JSN League of his own in terms of the pass catchers on this slate, but I do like the Patriots guys, next AJ Brown, Dubs, I think totally fine options. I agree with the Cooper Cup stuff, not super excited.

55:29I'm not as excited in Shaheed as title is, I mean, the guys is a freak athlete, don't get me wrong, but he's just like so gimmicky last year, and I don't know, I kind of want to see something, but again, he does have the explosiveness where one play, he could be the guy you need. I'm probably not gonna fully be there though in terms of ownership. Pop Douglas, I really like it, 3K, I like Matt Collins, and I'm gonna call the Jahan Dotson, all right, of this slate, the guy you random guy you needed last year, Kyle Williams, I'm gonna say Kyle Williams is the random guy you need this year to win six figures. Is gonna happen, some of you six figures up top, Kyle Williams is gonna be part of that. He was drafted highly, right? He was a relatively high draft pick, I believe, Krak. He was a guy like last year, they were trying to get third round. Third round, okay, but he was, last year's his first year, Krak. Nice number actually, 69th overall pick. There it is, you know, even more reason to play him,

56:30for sure, he got the old 69s. Yeah, I mean, he looked good at the end of last year, they used them in some key spots, he had some big plays, he's gonna be like no ownership whatsoever. I think he's just a random guy that could go off tonight. Yeah, a guy with a little bit of bottom in the discord today too, and he's gonna have his tower up there soon. And we'll get to some of these other questions when we get to those positions, guys. And that is the thing with the Patriots, just one more thing I wanted to point out that you can have it back is, even though they got AJ Brown and Robo your dogs, I just, they're still gonna use these other guys. Like, remember last year, that was the hardest part about playing Drake May Teams. There's like so many dudes involved, just so many random guys involved. Even though they have AJ Brown and Robo, I still think they're gonna mix in these other guys, and you're gonna get opportunities. Kyle will show some promise last year. He has explosiveness, he can make the big plays, they're high on the last, I just don't think they're giving up on them this year because they got AJ Brown. So I do like him tonight. So this is good.

57:31Speaking of Kyle's, our man go collect first name Kyle, we met him who've been in Michigan that time. He drove out and met with us, he says need the Pat Swiss for a reo, to shine in that patch, I'd receive a room. And that's the thing I love about our community. Shout out to our man, Rio, always crushing our treats. But right there, ready to go with the answer. I can't gift you a free month Rio. I think you got a little more than that coming your way, but just noting it, he says yes, on Kyle Williams with the rocket emoji. So we love to see that. So people are gonna be in on him. I will say just going back to earlier. That's what I said, I love about this. I'm gonna use it from a content perspective, but you can dig into old lineups and slate reviews and everything. I got Kyle Williams from 16 hours ago with, it's got the pull right from Mike Nuggets NFL, a new Twitter out there that a lot of people are following. He says Mike Brable says Kyle Williams has a leak release mechanics and that the patrons will need more from this season. Again, his route, his release mechanics are as good as they come. And we call that getting parallel right here as a receiver, getting parallel. Proofies more than just a deep threat, catch and touch down preseason, all of that stuff.

58:33And then who is the other guy? You said, somebody else you were talking about there that we were over at Shaheed. So if you just go look up the latest Shaheed, this one's from two days ago, but it was a Seahawks offensive expectations from Underdog. Just talked about it through J-Fallor ESPN motion shifts, two tight-end sets, Rashid Shaheed could get more work as a complete wide receiver, maybe less of that gadget stuff that we talked about. I know his prop in another discord this morning was getting bet. And I think it went up like two yards already on longest reception. So if the thought process is, it's gonna be him getting a little more action than that, Jadarian Price will be a big factor, might not be 20 carries of games. I know, I use this for pretty much everything right now for news, but I just thought that was interesting. When you talk, I knew that there was a quote on Kyle Williams, I can go find it right away. So I think that's somewhat intriguing as well. I don't know if you- One last thing, I mentioned it really briefly, but like for the pop Douglas, Matt Collins Williams, trading Keeshaan Boudi, and I mean, Frable came out and straight up said, like he wasn't even gonna be like on the act of roster

59:34to make it the 53 man to start the season. Like that shows a lot of hope and promise for guys, like pop, mainly pop, but then Kyle Williams, Matt Collins, because that wasn't the expectation going into this off season. So, and then if anyone saw Boudi's response to that is professionals the kids, so that's a different side of story though. Yeah, definitely. I like that call in the chat, but it's talking about it too just as well. So I mean, I kicked her talks, coming up soon, people said, tight ends, it was already asked earlier. I like this guy last year, we were on him early. I still like him on this slate. If Horton was out, I would like him even more. But I'm gonna, as much as the Henry and Barnard stuff is good and they're at very good ownership still, like they're 20% or less kind of, you can fit him in, you can't play him all, so they work just fine, even in the captain. I do like Arroyo in the flex here, and you could do it a bunch of different ways, but I do think he's somewhat interesting. At that price point, he's cheaper than Halani and those guys, and look, I expect for good reason. I think all that's accurate, but I'm saying, it's the price that is still nice for me, and then the fact of how he could be involved

1:00:35down there, very good athlete, as people talk to him in the chat, like we've seen it from him already, I just, the injury and stuff. So I think, you know, he'll be fine, tight end, Barnard, Henry, people are gonna be on them, they'll be fine, they fit in wherever you put them, but who, do you got anything you wanna go with here at tight end, title already gave kind of his love for the tight end, so we know where he sits, what else are you thinking here at tight end? Yeah, I like him, for sure. And I said, like those, both of them would be my cheap captains that I would take a chance on up top, because I think both of them have multiple touchdown upside, Hunter, Henry, and Barnard, I probably like, you know, Barnard more than Henry, because I just think Barnard could be like the second pass catcher that Sam Darnell looks to after, after JSM, but I'm in on them, Aroyo at 1600, I'm with you on that, then the one guy I don't know much about him, he has, what's our projection on him, one and a half, I just don't know much about this, rare thing guys, so curious to see what you guys are,

1:01:36if anyone on the chat has any information, because Hunter, Henry, like, has been solid, and they do like this. Yeah, I've got a lot of, okay, yeah, so I need maybe. 4.6, 36-inch vert, you can get down, feel, they can catch the ball and get a feel a bit. Yeah, so like Drake may captain team, I think perfect guy did to include in there, and again, I've said it probably a million times, and I probably don't need to say it again, but another reason why I like the Drake may captain, because this is another guy that you can kind of throw into the mix, but definitely Barger, Henry for sure I like, and then Aroyo, and I guess I'm playing this rare thing guy, because title city's athletic. He's got me too. But that's it, yeah. Let's see, Married Believer in Jesus. Okay, now we're talking. Rockin' a little flow, he got some flow too. Like the hair is there for sure, yeah. All this is right, I'm tight on. All three is actually a lot of things. Amen, let's go.

1:02:38Over there, so yeah, I think Buddy's doing all right for himself, but the looks of things here, so yeah, looks very capable, and I think that's interesting now, I'm going back to that comment earlier of people mentioning like the three for three and three. I don't know if it'll be that good, but again, just throwing them down there, it could be a thing. So Bill, always in the college football streets has great pass catching tight end at Notre Dame. What's the guess? Because I have absolutely no clue. Where was he drafted, title, what do you think? I think second round I'm going to guess. I think he was pretty highly. He was up there. Not quite. Could be totally wrong. 95th, not as good as 69, but 66, 245 pounds, dude. This guy is ready to go, man. Just. That was great. And the third round then, right? 95. I'm saying, what's his name? Eli, this ain't Eli Well done. This is raridon, buddy, so you can't be in on that. I'm not on that. I'm not on that. I'm not on that. For me, entitled.

1:03:38This is for title. I'm not on that. I've got to know that. So all right, let me think here was move on. You got to go to the next one, kicker. The chat was already talking about it. I think it was our guy, Hamwich. Oh no, it was who? Myers to the moon. I thought he's got the same logo, Ham, uses sometimes. I saw the H. Crickly, but yeah, Myers to the moon. Start us off there then, man. You've got to move off the stake. That you know, speaking to the moon, blue, rare, some people call it too. But what are you doing with, always got this where you go. My guy, my guy, Newman's had it, had it queued up for me. I mean, 1977, 11, 8, 10, 2, 24, 14, 19, 13, 15, 19, 10, 5, 14, 17, a lot of double digits. And if you're new to the show, like, you know, there's not going to be a lot of times where we're going to go through, like a box score, go with kickers. I think they can tell you something. Are the teams willing to kick field goals? And that's important in this day and age, because a lot of teams are going for it on fourth and three or fourth and four. And Seattle is definitely willing to kick field goals.

1:04:38And Myers has been one of the more consistent guys. Solid projection. I mean, we have them at basically eight and a half. Like, that's a good number for a kicker. Like, upside is probably 20. So I love Myers and Borgala, some other side is a guy that had big games, last season definitely preferred Myers over him. But man, both kickers, I think, strong options. If you think this is a grinded out sort of game, then, you know, kickers could have a boost. A lot of field goals in the Super Bowl. If you're looking at the last time these two teams played, I don't know the exact number, but it was like, was like 12 to three going into the fourth quarter. So I think there's a lot of upside for these kickers. I always like kickers. So no one should be surprised. Yeah, I think some of that's always interesting. I mean, I don't want to keep covering titles face, but I will say it's like the, the, when you lay it out like this, it always looks so good, but it's like, there's what about the seven to eight, the two, the nine, the 10, the 10, the five, the nine, the eight, like they all, to me, it's like 50, 50 of that.

1:05:39But I do like Myers tonight. I'm just saying it's funny just the way you put it in place. But like you said, he has upside. There is some optionality here. I guess I would say like Hoops said, I like him a lot more than the Patriot side. And I think most do, but just in general, it looks like I'll have a lot more Myers, maybe even like double the field of that side, because to me, with the way the game could go with how Vrayble does things with just a lot of different factors, I think it's just way more likely we see it versus the sea hawks, whether they're up down, what I think they're going to kick it if they can. So like that, I also like the sea hawks, D, which we'll get to in a second, but anything you want to add on kickers there, Tyler, any any, any take away from that stuff? My initial run, because I'm eating a lot of chalk at other places, like seeing 25% for a kicker is just a little concerning for me. You can go 400 less and take 8% in savings. And then you could even go any kicker to either defense. We're showing 10% Patriot, 16% sea hawks. I think today to get difference, and I like the undermore in this game, I think defense is over kickers, and I'll just play the ownership game.

1:06:41And it is against you guys a bit and go bore a gallus over Myers for that reason. Yeah. And that's the other thing too. I like how you worded that because it's like if you were looking at it from that perspective and even Sean just said it now, larger delta in their ownership than I would have thought. Yeah, it is. It is quite a bit actually, but it's also like you don't have to put any kickers in your lineup either if you don't want to. So that's the other nice thing about showdown. So if you don't love it, we're obviously going position by position here, but if it's not for you, you don't have to naturally go down to something else or to like all due defense instead. So if you're going to be a little bit more of your entire lineup and tell a story, if you're going to be Steven, send up in the captain, but you're going to five one, well, maybe it is some kicks later on. Steven gets it going early. The Patriots are putting it on them and all of a sudden their kick and feel goals when they're up and just taking more points, more points, whatever it might be. So it all should go with your lineup, make sure it tells the story. I'll go to defenses here first and then kick it back to you who, but similar story to the kickers is just again leaning that side of the game. I'm getting more Seattle than I am Patriots, but to titles point when I do like is these

1:07:46guys aren't showing up as much. This would fit a lot of what I'm doing though. Like I talked about price up top. You can have price with the defense. Like I think the spread is what it is. And I don't know. I'm not trying to figure that out right now and say like what side is going to win because I think it goes either way, but I think like I said earlier, five ones are too low as it starts, but I could see either side either. It's a super bowl hangover and it's variable in the Patriots and they come back in there. I think they're better now. You know, Crod got his contract done in doubt with like everything should be fired up for them. AJ Browns air tons of things you could say or could go the other way and it could just flat on their face again and see Ox just crush, but you know, that's how I'm looking at it from those build perspectives. Who what are you thinking of defense here? Yeah, like I said in the opening a little more prone to play some of these or these defenses usually I don't play much, but I do want to make sure I have at least some of each side obviously. You know, the Seahawks have an advantage here at home. The whole 12th man thing really allowed stadium better defense overall, but I think I want

1:08:48some Patriots to ownership discrepancies pretty wide. We're showing what six, yeah, a little bit like right around six. Yeah, I'm going to make sure to have some. I'm never super excited about defense, but again, like I said in the opening, I think this game has the potential to be maybe ugly. I said like 17 14 someone in the chat said 2017. Those are scores where defense could come into play. Yeah, Andrew, that's what we talked about earlier. I mean, again, only can estimate and just running off everything that we do, but I think it's going to be lower than usual. Like so I'll take a stand on both sides of five ones just to be able to get some. It looks like right now. It could be anywhere to 70 to 80% of builds that are going to be three, three and four twos. So it's very high and just the way it builds like that. You know, that setup is just the way it lands and all the builds sort of fit it no matter what you like. There's always somebody there and you'll notice it's a four to one way, a three, three works. Like you're just rolling with that.

1:09:49I think these are the types of nights we want to do it. And then what's the game tomorrow night? San Francisco at the Rams. It'll be funny because we're back tomorrow to PM Eastern. So make sure you guys are subscribed to the channel, but I will say it's going to be like a lot of what happens tonight will bleed into tomorrow as usual, right? Like if it is a five one that gets there and then tomorrow looks like somebody should be a five one, it will depend. You'll almost swing right away. And I was saying the five ones will be over owned tomorrow night. So it's kind of like flipping back and forth between that. But there's a ton of ways to get different tonight. I always say this. I usually say it off the top, but I really like this slate. I like the unknowns. It's not just that football's back. Not just that there's a million dollars up top, but I want to play these slates with there's more on shocker that you like the first game of the NFL season. You're excited about the slate. I'm surprised. Sometimes people aren't though. I think like it depends on the. You have to be everyone has to be no one's going to say I hate this slate. Like everyone's excited. Right. For the different reason. I'm saying most people are excited that football's back. We had the gist pop it in the discord all day. Everyone's excited that it's back. I always tell it the truth.

1:10:50I was out straight on the slate. And how much I like them. This would be an upper echelon slate for me. Like I'm not just playing more action because it's night one. I guess my point is I guess my point is if you didn't like the slate, you wouldn't come out and say it tonight just because like the excitement. You don't want to be the buzzkill. Like, oh, I'm not excited. Like, yeah, I'm not going to be high. You no matter what. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I will tell you if I don't like a slate. This slate I do. I really want people to know the hype is not just for night one to your point, but it is because I actually do think this is a really good slate for DFS. Like I think we've got a lot of ways to get to the top tonight. And I think we can definitely see my biggest hope is like always. And you know, title we talk about this with the the doops and stuff. But I think tonight's a slate, meaning good slate for me is where we could actually see it chop 10 ways or less. And that's what gets me excited for these lights. I want to play to win the most amount. I want to solve the season early and then be able to just to kind of play through the season, not have to grind through after you know, a night after night after night. So yeah, I was saying, saying the same things different ways. Title any thoughts from you on the defenses?

1:11:52Yeah, like I like the defenses more than the kickers just looking at the ownership. And I think Seahawks are phenomenal for sure. And like you said, last year we had 10 doops and it was $172,000 with $15. This year's $20 is $132,000. So that's an extra 40,000 people in that contest where there was still only 10 doops. So that can end with how soft salary is with how many options there are. Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be completely shocking if you saw four doops or something like that. So yeah, I do think it's a good slate to regardless of it being night one. Even if it was bad though, anytime is 132,000 people. And we say it a lot like enough. There's a lot more prizes early, a lot more fish early. As the season goes on, the fish lose their money and more stuff goes on. People get a little more sick of it and the prize are always still great, but they do shrink. You're going to see week three on a Thursday night showdown games going to look nothing like we see this week. So I do think now's the time to push push your edge a little bit. If you do think you have one, that doesn't mean just go broke and not being able to be dealt in as the as the weeks go on.

1:12:57You got to stay in the game to have a chance to win. So definitely bankroll management, but yeah, I'll be playing way more volume in week one than I will most of this year. And that's just because of the prizes. Yeah, agreed. I like that call it. I think, you know, from the poker spot, we didn't bring that one up early. Another thing you're grinding usually. So it's like you got to push the chips in there. But I think it's good. I think you made some good points there on that stuff as well. It's going to be a fun slate hoop. Is there anything on the fan dual side that you wanted to talk about? I'm going to move this back now. I think I've got it set up. Yeah. So we have the same just so people know, like again, not every site does it this, but we do have the fan duel with the different ownership. You'll be able to balance it all out and build from there, but just looking at some of the pricing here. Flex wise. JSN's 13K Drake, mages, anything you see as we're scrolling through here that stands out for you. There's a couple standouts like obzes up there. The Cooper Cup range, like Cooper Cup 54, Hualani 5K, Barner definitely stands out at 48. Like those three seem cheap kind of compared to their prices over on DK.

1:14:04You go down to the booth. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. So you go down to the bottom. Like not too much of a difference. It's kind of, you know, you got JSN at the top. You got Drake, May, Sam Darnell, AJ Brown, Stevenson and price are a little closer in price. Only $800 difference here. I believe there may be like 1200 over on DK. So not much of a difference. I will say though, yeah, that 5K, low 5K, upper 4K, cup, Hualani and Barner seem pretty cheap on, on fan dual. It's going to be harder for people to get the price over there too. It looks like just because the pricing is so good to Stevenson. It's probably almost like you can't have to look into it further on the fan dual side, but it's like it is such a gap. But remember too, like you see projections and ceilings and people use this and you should. It's typically accurate and good, but in a one game slate. And when you're flipping it, if you don't manually change it yourself, you can also mentally change it yourself. And just all right, well, I actually see it's going to be priced that gets what Stevenson does.

1:15:04And I think Stevenson's going to get a little bit held in check. So even if you leave that money on the table from 15,000 down to 13,8 and flip the game script, you're basically in your mind saying that I'm good with that because I think price is actually going to outdo this. Don't just fall in love with it and have to roll with it. I think on the bigger slates and you know, big 12 gamer on Sunday that will break down Sunday morning at 9 a.m. Eastern here. That's where it's like, okay, I'm not going to sacrifice as much. But if you're telling a story with it, especially on these one game slates, I think it's super important. Title anything else you want to add from a fendill perspective doesn't have to be prices or players. You talked a little bit earlier about 200K up top. Not many people even talking about it. But I just think over there it is even more condensed like JS and Drake may Ramandre and a Donald is like even brown as could could be like what we have him. He could be really low on just because those first four get almost all the action up top to Hoops Point earlier. Just going further with this. The softer pricing on you on draft Kings allows you're going to need the top score so people are expecting that. But the top score could be price ground, Shaheed any of those guys.

1:16:07And also the price boost at flex to some of those other get you don't have Henry at 4,800. He's 7,600 so that you'd have to go to somebody else down there and say, okay, maybe it's going to be Kyle Williams or maybe it's not going to be price or it's not going to be Shaheed story. It's going to be who'd be talking about early burner down there at 4,800. So you can get there the same way, but I think MVP's get a little tighter over on Fandall. Yeah, I agree because the pricing is also soft over on Fandall as well. So it's very similar. And if you're looking at the stone like we show at JSN, Drake may Ramandre like it. We don't have to go dumpster diving. And unless you were living under under rock last year, but Fandall also took the draft Kings where you do have to pay more at MVP, which is a lot better. So then some of the value like coup mentioned that 5K range is strong, but Kyle Williams all the way down to 3K. If you want that, a rollo 3.4K. Pop Douglas, let's go to 3.8. The last thing that I'll mention is I don't hate almost taking in some lineups like a full zero at the 1K guys.

1:17:11And then I probably wouldn't want to leave more than 600 that Eli Raridan dudes 1.6K if he gets one catch. It feels like you're almost drawing dead if you leave 800 because any of those stone dead Russell guys at 1K then would go to Raridan. But it gets you on a little different bill. If you want to jam all the studs, no one plays them. We could see if it's concert and concentrated enough and the studs do what the studs do a zero at full 1K that uses most their salary. And those lineups could be duped pretty little as well just because no one wants to click someone that's almost unprojected. So that's something I'm more interested on, Fandool than on draftings today. Yeah, I like that too. I think it's going to be a good night for that. Like if you can, man, I'm going to get something raridan or whatever is you say his name. I'm getting some of them hand builds right after this, just thinking about some ideas of that. Like you said, if you're using a lower price guy going along those lines, I think is a pretty good idea. If you guys missed it off the top, our early bird special over at Shibot Nation is still live 349 for the entire season. If you'd rather pay monthly, you can go down, go to single sport.

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1:19:16I do want to announce that quickly for those members that are watching. We're giving you a warning. We'll give you the warning each week. It's going to be up to 499 people, but it's only going to be posted in Discord, not emailed out. And the breakdown is this. If you sign up today, you'll have a chance to get in week one because we're going to put the link out tomorrow. So even though we're doing a show tomorrow, we're going to keep getting more new people coming in. A lot of them might not get into the week one because they didn't get in in time. Week one is starting now tonight. So we're giving you the heads up tomorrow in the Discord, the week one qualifier, where the first three people will not only win a golden Shibot ticket, but will also win a chance to play in the share ship and grow the pool, etc. In week two, that will go out tomorrow. The first 499 members will get in and it will be posted in Discord. Can't say it enough times. Can't make it easier for you guys. It's so that the most active engaged members of the community have a chance to get in. It's single entry. You put your line up in. You play it. Those with the top three scores will get the first three golden Shibots.

1:20:19They'll get to play and share in a 333 to 55 range ticket the next week, where 50% of the profit would go back to the prize pool and boost their chances there. And ultimately, just so you guys know, like some people are giving away 333 tickets or a chance at a thousand dollar thing or something. We're giving away 10,000 cash, 5,000 cash, 2500 cash, 1250 cash, twice, and 1000 cash six times. So it's like if you look at those prizes, most people are giving away one tenth of that or anything for that matter. So you know, if you look at it from that perspective, it's the best way to get in. All you got to do is go to ShibotNation.com. You can join any of the plans that are all access as you see down here or single sport NFL. If you want the early bird special with Saber Symmahs just 349, that also ends on Sunday title any final thoughts from you, man, before we get out of here. Five hours on the dot. We will see some football on our screen. So good luck to everybody. I definitely enjoy talking some football. And yeah, embrace the unknowns right now. We'll talk about it more on Sunday.

1:21:22People think they know what's going to happen. We really don't. Then people over just week two, whatever happens week one to show it on game. We already know anything can happen. But yeah, I'm definitely excited. I'm going to be a lot of football on the screen in the coming days. So good luck to everybody. Yeah, man. Excited to be back here in the boots with you guys. Who we got to answer this one first before you go? You've been doing a lot of best ball drafts. You only can pick one shot at the way to lit for a buck 99. Do you want digs in the flex or do you want Romeo dobs? This must be for a season long league, too. We're going extra and above here. That's a pretty rough decision week one of NFL. If you're number two wide receiver, see it for a season. No, it might be number two flex. Maybe they has two flex spots. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, you're right. Okay. Digs, I guess. It's close, but I would say digs and put it in the chat too. So yeah, I'll say digs appreciate the question, but we'll roll with digs. Shout out to Alice Unix. He said, well, you hide that he's not going to link for Shiba Games. No, we will tag the channel in the morning and say heads up.

1:22:24This link is coming out and then we will post it so that everyone can at least have their fair shot. We want the most engaged people to be in it. That was one of the number one complaints. Again, most communities don't do this either where they take the stock of the members to say, what did you like? What did you hate? You guys told us what you hated. We adapted. We changed it. We made it better. Everyone's going to get their fair shake now. Every single week, you're welcome to play as long as you're in all access or NFL only member. You'll get the heads up like everybody else on a regular week just to be clear. It will be announced probably Monday morning or Monday afternoon that it's, you know, once we get the link from draft games that it's coming out soon. And once we get the link, we'll post it, but you'll get a heads up. You'll be able to have a chance to get in there. So how many people want a million dollars? So far, we've had four or five millimetre winners. You can just go to winner's circle. And then you scroll down and partnered with Saber Sim directly. So you get all the Rolex watch. The whole winner's circle program is live for anybody who doesn't know it too, but we did interviews with Chris and with Dalton. That's two different members that won a million bucks.

1:23:26Then our guy, Mark F won it with a Justin Watson captain that week. I remember the showdown slate. That was awesome. And it was funny because D-Dry is Dalton was the first guy right there to congratulate him and say that he'll you join the club. So congrats. And then our man Chad, Chad Scarbury. So Scar X24 said, well, boys, I've been close twice. Today it finally happened. He won the millie by 0.5 in golf. Tons of 100 K winners though. You can see like our internal staff, but then all kinds of members. And then 10,000 just keeps growing. And then we can't put the screenshots for the thousands, like anybody from a thousand to 5,000, et cetera. Just the list keeps going on. You can make it bigger. Like there's tons of options there for you guys to get in. All the rules are on the site. Any withdraws? No, Jill, Jill's not here. But we'll get back into the golf season sooner than you think. Hoop, back, baby, final thoughts. Anything you want to add before we get out of here? Feels good to be back. Excited to have football. We'll be back obviously tomorrow. So you guys won't miss us too much. And then Sunday morning, as well, a lot in between.

1:24:27No title as the cash show. Tambo, you have the- Leverjane flicker. Yeah, Leverjane's with a blickle on Saturday. So a lot of stuff to come from the rest of the week. We're excited a lot of content. We'll obviously be up soon for tonight's slate. And then we'll get working on tomorrow's slate. And then the full slate on Sunday as well. So make sure to get over to shipanation.com. Check us out, get in. So you can be part of Ship of Games like Tambo said. There's no one in the- They're trying to upsell you on bigger and more expensive packages and split up their content into different packages. So you have to pay them twice. Over here, we're giving money back to our customer base. So it's something we're definitely proud of. Just another reason to join. So yeah, excited for the football game tonight. And we'll be back tomorrow at 2 p.m. Eastern. Yeah. And like you said, too, we're also offering deals that are for less cost per month for you to get in on. So it's like a lot of gouging out there, but not giving away anything back. And way too lit says it's rough, man.

1:25:27Too flex league. So yeah, thank you. Thank you. Definitely excited for this, guys. Make sure to be domain. Shout out to him says, turn notifications on. Definitely. He said, I got 50K off of slate like this a couple of years ago. Big thanks to hoop that day. Hoops core is up on the site. I know titles got the cash game ones up. I know BG little next working on the tower. We'll have the show summary for those that couldn't get you or want to go back to it and find some stuff out. It's going to be a fun season, guys. Hopefully you'll join us. If not, you can always just watch the free shows with us. It helps us a ton of you just hit that thumbs up. Make sure to subscribe to the channel. That's going to do it for this one, guys, for title for hoop and for myself, toe tag and tempo. Good luck tonight. Let's ship it.