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Imagine volunteering at an event approved by the government, and a year later you're arrested, charged with sedition, convicted, and sentenced to 18 years in prison.
That's what happened to Stewart Rhodes (OathKeepers.info), the founder of Oath Keepers. His sentence was commuted after three years by President Trump last January, but the conviction remains on his record. This means that as a disabled veteran, he is denied the disability benefits he should be receiving comma, nor will he be allowed to be buried in a veterans cemetery when he is called home.
In addition, he is not allowed to vote in his home state of Texas, a better pill to swallow for a man who describes himself as a Ron Paul constitutionalist.
Stewart describes the treatment he received at the hands of the Department of justice for his presence at government approved demonstrations in Washington DC on January 6, 2021. And, as you probably know, Stewart was not the only one tracked down, arrested, charged, and imprisoned for the audacity of protesting against the deep state.
He tells us how he survived more than a year in solitary confinement, how he plans to rebuild Oath Keepers, and his mission to train other veterans to organize and strengthen their local communities.
Stewart is one of the featured speakers at the stay awake America event in Port St. Lucie, Florida this coming Friday and Saturday, March 20 and 21st, 2026. Information and registration for the event is available at stayawakeamerica.com.
Follow Stewart Rhodes:
You can support Oath Keepers givesendgo.com/oath.
The discussion you are about to see is not a fanciful tale of conspiracies.
Cover ups.
Or secret societies, it is a work of fact based on the accounts of the men and women who did the research
or experienced it and lived to share their stories.
This is a view from the bunker.
Imagine your volunteering at an event that has been given permission by the government and for the thought crime of
daring to ask questions about your government.
You wind up sends to prison for 18 years.
Welcome to a view from the bunker.
That is his life story had his life ripped from him.
He served three years and we will talk more about that.
His background is diverse.
US Army paratrooper a disabled veteran served as a volunteer firefighter in Montana.
Also a graduate of Yale law in 2004.
A Yale law research scholar also assisted teaching US military history for the Yale history department.
He is a thinker as well as a doer.
Worked in the Washington DC staff of Congressman Ron Paul in 98.99.
Clirked for the Arizona Supreme Court in 2004, 2005, and then in 2009.
Founded Oath Keepers, which is what got him into trouble.
He is now rebuilding Oath Keepers.
The new website is oathkeepers.info.
If you want to help with the mission of rebuilding that organization, please go to www.givesendgo.com
and send go.com slash oath.
That is give sent go.com slash oath.
There will be a link to that in the show notes whether you are watching or listening.
He was in effect a political prisoner for the events of January 6, 2021.
I would let him tell that story.
Again, sentence 18 years served three, including a year in solitary confinement.
President Trump commuted that sentence in 2025.
But that is not the same as a pardon.
Commutation means your sentence is ended.
You get out, but the conviction is still on your record.
He'll be a featured speaker at the upcoming stay awake America event this Friday and Saturday.
That's March 20th and 21st, 2026 at Truth Church in Port St. Lucie, Florida.
And if you can't be there in person, live streaming video is available.
Information and registration at stay awake America.com.
You might remember a few weeks ago.
Ohio Amy, Casper McLeod, Renee Trux about these events.
Well, there's one coming up this weekend.
And that's why we're bringing this special midweek edition of a view from the bunker.
Actually met our guest at a Hear the Watchman conference where he addressed a speaker's luncheon several years ago in Dallas, Texas.
He again addressed to hear the Watchman conference this past August in Springfield, Missouri.
You can follow him on X that is at real Oathkeepers.
And it's our honor to welcome to the program, the founder of Oathkeepers, Stuart Rhodes.
Stuart, thank you for taking time out of your schedule today.
Hey, my pleasure. How you doing, brother?
Well, doing fine. I mean, you blew our minds at the Hear the Watchman conference several years ago,
because it's hard to believe for a lot of us Americans and many of us conservative Christians are.
Patriotic Americans who want to believe that for the most part, even though we don't always agree with who sits in the Oval Office,
or who's got the majority in Congress, that for the most part, our government and the Department of Justice does the right thing.
And I think that illusion was shattered in the wake of January 6th.
When we saw what happened to so many of the people, we had other friends who were there who did not fall into the hands of the police.
But they saw what was going on and it was not what was presented in the media.
Your story, I mean, where were you on January 6th and how was it that the police took notice of you?
Well, I was standing outside the Capitol because we were there, as you mentioned in your intro,
we were there to provide volunteer security for two permitted events on Capitol grounds.
That's why we the Oathkeepers were there.
As we had done in the big, big protest against the election in November and in December in Washington, DC, same drill.
As we had done in Atlanta with the stop to steal rally after the election.
And as we had done throughout the entire Trump administration, in fact, we did hundreds of security operations all over the country during the first Trump administration
to protect Trump supporters from Antifa, Black Lives Matter and other radical leftist who were attacking them.
In fact, our first security mission during the Trump administration started on January 20th, 2017, when President Trump was first inaugurated.
We were on the ground in Washington DC providing volunteer security escorts to any Trump supporter who felt threatened by Antifa.
Antifa likes to attack families with kids, disabled veterans, the elderly, they're like low level predators like coyote.
They attack people that are vulnerable.
And so we felt as our obligation because we're trained, trained military and police veterans that we would do to step up.
And so we did the entire Trump administration successfully.
We had one situation where a Trump supporter that we were protecting was harmed by Antifa or an event that we were protecting was shut down by Antifa.
They tried, but they couldn't shut us down.
So that's one reason why they hated us.
But I've been attacked by a Southern poverty law center and ADL and the usual suspects in the deep state.
Since I found a death keepers in 2009 for daring to even say that during the Obama administration that the military and police have a duty to refuse unlawful orders.
That was my first sin.
It was like during the first black president, as though I care what color he was, they spun that as well we must be racist because we're telling the police and military to say no to a black president.
It's going to do with his color as everything to do with their oath.
And so as an old school, Ron Paul Republican, the constitutionalist, I opposed what Bush did during the war on terror and the name of the war on terror, the Patriot Act, unlawful combat and status against America.
I wrote about that in fact, a Yale and one their top prize for best paper on the Bill of Rights.
So when I was criticizing a Republican, the left loved me, the professors and the students there loved me, but they thought I was actually thought as a liberal because I was criticizing Republican.
I'm just a constitutionalist. But when I criticized their guy, when their guy came into power in Obama, then all of a sudden now I'm a devil with horns and a fortale.
So it's just weird how that happens. I'm a constitutionalist. That's all I didn't change. I'm still the same way.
I was just going to say I have not experienced anything close to what you did, but I had a radio consultant for these.
For the station I was working for in Columbia, Missouri back in 2006 hosting conservative political talk radio was in between Sean Hannity and Neil Boardser, if I remember right.
But you know, I was daring to question what was going on in Iraq at the time. And so our consultant called me an NPR liberal.
And again, it was for the essentially the same reason the Constitution says we're not supposed to be doing this.
And we went into what was clearly was fault in retrospect false pretenses.
Right.
So you dare ask the question and suddenly you were on the naughty list for the deep state and they've got a lot of power that they can wield against you.
That's right. And people need to understand that the deep state owns both sides of the media, both singing and Fox News are owned by the deep state.
Look at all the ads for big pharma on all those outlets.
We all are under the thumb of big pharma. And frankly, they're all under the thumb of the CIA.
You know, the Mockingbird media of the CIA has been that's just tip of the iceberg. They've been, you know, they've been providing behind the scenes manipulation of media for several many decades.
That's just reality.
And so that's what I that's why that's like today. My post on X was like, you know, clowns left to me.
Joker's to the right here. I am stuck in the middle with you. I saw that.
It's long and slight and I said, Hey, just for just a reminder, both sides are owned by them.
What do they not want you to look at? What are they distracting you from right now?
And so when it comes to our ran, we need regime chains here at home.
I'm no fan of the move laws. I was it was wonderful to see the main move lost smoke. That's great.
But the distraction is is to make you worry and focus on foreign affairs.
And President Trump also have been running the clock out on him without him doing his duty.
And I believe his destiny. I think he was saved by God and Butler for a purpose.
And it was not to make war overseas or trade deals or tariffs. It was to defeat the deep state here at home free us.
So when you regime change right here, that's what I'm focused on.
And it's all you why my experience as a J6 political prisoner.
Your audience should take it as a warning because what was done to me will be done to you.
All of you when they come back into power.
If President Trump does not defeat them with our assistance, take them down now completely.
They will come back into power and will be exponentially worse.
So all your friends that were in there in J6.
I would call them my own indicted co-conspirators because of Kamala become president.
They would have gone after all of them too. Anybody was in Washington DC that day would eventually would have been in prison.
Yeah. And they were clearly tracking people. This has come out since then just using
locational data GPS information on phones. Anyone is in Washington DC.
If they worked from the area. We're being investigated by the FBI.
And we've seen this in another arena where people just praying silently outside abortion clinics.
We're likewise targeted and the subject of FBI investigation.
Of course. So there is a distraction.
Hatching despises Christianity.
Hatching despises. I consider myself a Christian nationalist. I'm an American Christian nationalist.
And they fear that they fear Christians who put this country first.
And that is why I suspect you are described on Wikipedia.
And of course, audience bear in mind the left wing slant of the editors of Wikipedia.
And I quote, conviction seditionist and founder of the Oathkeepers and American far right anti-government militia.
And quote, which is absurd because Oathkeepers was a group of men who had swore the oath as a paratrooper.
So all of our men were either and women, either military police, firefighters, switching rescue.
But the common denominator was public service where we had raised our right hand.
And sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution.
The Constitution established the federal government.
So how is it that a group dedicated to preserving the Constitution that established the federal government is anti-government?
It's just absurd. It's garbage.
It really is.
Yeah, and again, that's why I don't get an episode of what's a good one for this one.
It's like an episode of Twilight Zone almost.
Yeah, or you go Twilight Zone or Black Mirror or something like that.
Right.
Or South Park.
Yeah, the absurdity gets Kafka-esque.
Yeah, it is.
That's the thing about the left.
And this is why I bring up Southern poverty law center in ADL.
Yeah.
They are the flagship groups on the left that demonize anyone they don't like.
If you're basically, you're not a communist.
They're going to call you anti-government radical extremists.
They'll call you a Nazi and a racist.
And all these, you know, buzzwords, then they'll call you anti-government.
It's just ridiculous.
With some of the revelations that have come out about the Southern poverty law center over the last couple of years,
it's amazing that anybody pays attention to them anymore.
It's pretty clear.
Because of the propaganda.
The way it's, it's like Providence.
It's a official propaganda arm of the deep state.
Along with ADL.
ADL is no better.
Yeah.
No better.
They wrap themselves in, you know, fighting against anti-Semitism, but what they really do is
advanced communist causes by attacking anyone that's opposed to communist.
No, that's right.
That's right.
So you were sentenced to 18 years, which seems really extreme.
But you didn't even answer the capital.
That's right.
So I mean, look, this is, this is the reality of J6.
I didn't go inside.
There was no plot to attack the capital.
I mean, I'm a trained paratrooper serving the long range of constants unit.
It's actually an insult to my competence as a soldier to suggest that was my plan.
To leave our guns in our, in the hotel room, to have our guys go in unarmed into the capital,
do a prayer circle, and then they wound up helping police officers, multiple assumptions.
That's all they did.
And then they walked back out.
That was my plan.
That was my grand plan.
It's just absurd ridiculousness.
So we were targeted, along with the proud boys, A, because the left already hated us,
because like, along with the proud boys, in fact, we worked side by side all across the country,
we shut down into the streets at a 100% success record.
Never could they ever do anything to stop us.
We shut them down every time.
And the proud boys were also very effective.
That's why one reason why they hated us.
They also hated me, of course, because like I said, I'm encouraging the men in the military and police to say no.
The powers that beat, and I'm talking about the uniparty, whether it's Republicans or Democrats,
they don't want that.
They want blind loyalty to them when they give orders.
They want those orders followed.
Their, in fact, their, their entire mindset is that you must follow all orders given until some judge says its own constitutional.
Until then, you're supposed to just do whatever you're told.
That's the, that's the, that's the paradigm they have set up.
That's not the paradigm of the founding fathers.
That's their, their paradigm.
The, the, the punishment seems not to have fit what they accused you of.
Was this an effort by, well, it's the part of the justice to, to try to persuade you to turn on some of the others who were there in 2006?
No, no, not, not some of the others, because I was, I'm the founder and the president of both keepers.
That was the very top of the pyramid with oath keepers.
Other oath keepers were truck, but they coerced them into bearing false witness against me.
And a couple did fold and do that.
They signed on to fake statement, absurd statements of facts that I had planned since November on Cobald's farm to attack the capital of complete garbage.
But with me, the only person I could have turned on was President Trump himself.
Oh, but that's what they do.
All the other guys are putting solitary and so was I when they finally arrested me.
It took them a year to arrest me because I didn't go inside.
So some of the other oath keepers were arrested early on.
And my co-definancing some of the trial with stuck by their guns and refused, you know, to their honor, refused to turn on me.
They were offered, like Kelly Megs, for example, my Florida chapter leader.
He was told straight up, you can go home if you will sign a statement that Stewart Rhodes told you to go inside.
They offered that to him. He helped by it while he's being held solitary.
You know, he was honorable and said no.
Can you Harold Sinjeska Watkins?
They could have gone home too.
So I got to give them props for being honorable myself after I spent about eight months pre trial.
So just so you understand I was arrested January 13, 2022.
When they arrested me at gunpoint, a rifle point like everybody else.
At that moment, that moment on was a solitary confinement.
I was denied pre trial release. My only priors were speeding tickets.
And yet they argued to the judge that I was somehow a threat, even though I'd done nothing for the entire years since J6.
No evidence of be plotting anything or doing anything.
He considered me such a threat that it was going to deny me pre trial release.
The whole point was to hold me in solitary and try to coerce me, try to break me, try to break my co-definance, and coerce all of us to turn on President Trump.
And we refused.
So how did you not break?
I mean, eight months in solitary. I mean, you know, if there are some of us, you know, I could I could live in my head most most of the time and be happy.
My wife's the same way.
But you know, a lot of people that much time alone without human interaction would drive them nuts.
Well, here's how you do it.
I believe three big things going for me.
One my faith and my faith became not going to go through that without faith.
You got to have faith as I get the story of Joseph in mind of a man means for evil, God will use for good.
So I kept always in mind that this is, you know, this is my test.
Tested my faith.
I'm not going to, you know, let let that I'm not going to let the devil win because he's the father of all lies.
So I'm not going to commit the sin of bearing false witness.
So that's what got me through is my faith to because I'm a veteran.
I saw myself as a POW.
I think that's accurate.
And I know Joe Biggs and other veterans who were J6 were still the same way.
We were being held by the domestic enemies of the Constitution or everybody's dangerous or even more so than any foreign enemy.
And just as I would not cooperate with the foreign enemy and betray my country, I will not cooperate with the domestic enemies.
I consider the entire Obama or Biden regime to be illegitimate or suppers and enemies of the Constitution.
So I would not cooperate.
And the third advantage, I think, is because I come from a family of military service.
And I'm like, you know, like you said earlier, I helped teach military history at Yale University.
I know the history.
And so I know I knew that whatever I was going through as a POW,
the domestic enemies of the Constitution, it was nothing compared to what our guys went through.
As president of the war, I go to the Japanese World War II, the Koreans on Vietnam.
So I started even starting to feel sorry for myself.
I remember that.
I also remember both my grandpa's fought in World War II.
All my great uncles fought in the Pacific in World War II, my mom's side.
So I thought about them too, same thing.
What I'm going through in solitary confinement, ain't crap compared to what they went through.
So I would not let myself feel sorry for myself.
So that's what did it for me.
That's why I came up with my mind strong.
That in just God's grace, you know, I've got to give God the glory for that.
But wanting to honor the legacy of your fathers and your brothers, that's...
It helps.
It helps.
It helps.
I had a big event.
And I'm also the founder of Oakkeepers.
I look at the founder of an organization called Oathkeepers, roll over and be a bitch,
violate his own language, and just completely fold over.
It would be disgusting.
So I just refuse to do that.
I took the stand on my trial.
I testified with the jury right in the eye and told that election was stolen illegal and unconstitutional.
Explain it exactly why.
You know, John Eastman is completely right about his analysis of the election in 2020.
It was illegal and unconstitutional, violated oracle too.
I explained that to the jury, looking right in the eye.
And then my sentencing after I was convicted of citizenship conspiracy, which is a complete nonsense.
Basically, we were...
It's like in a Soviet Union where the watchword of the secret police was, show me the man.
I'll show you the crime.
That's right.
They are the bad guys.
They're Oathkeepers.
They're proud boys.
They're Trump supporters.
They, you know, automatically guilty.
You're getting in front of a DC jury.
It's like being tried in a Soviet Union.
So we knew going in.
We my co-defense.
We knew going in.
There's no way we're getting out of his out of this without being convicted.
But that's okay.
Because we will not.
Participate in a lie.
So we just told the jury the truth.
The ones that testified.
And then my sentencing, I like to judge right in the eye.
And I knew he was going to hammer me, but I didn't care.
With right in the eye and said,
I'm a political prisoner, like President Trump, my only crime, so-called,
is opposing those who are destroying our country.
And I said again.
I said, my oath will not let me shut my eyes to the plain text of Article II of the Constitution.
There was an unconstitutional election in a coup.
So I just called it out again.
And then he hammered me for my speech.
I mean, very clear of my sentencing.
He quoted something I had said in a jailhouse interview.
I had done a call on the radio show.
I said, hey, we're in the same place as the founding fathers.
We're on the same road as the founding fathers.
They had no recourse through politics at the end.
We're on that same road.
We were very narrow window of opportunity to fix this thing through political means.
Otherwise, we'll have to do the same thing they did.
Just nullify, separate ourselves, resist, and then in the end fight.
That's what I said.
And he quoted me and said, we cannot have that in our democracy.
And then said, therefore, I sentenced you to 18 years of President and good luck.
That was the last thing he told me was good luck.
Well, jokes on him.
Because when President Trump came into office, he set us free.
So Judge Maddick and Kiss Migrates.
Now, President Trump, as I mentioned in the introduction, commuted your sentence.
He did not go into a pardon.
What is the difference between the two?
So a commutation means that your sentence is reduced a time served.
But the conviction still stands.
I'm still a convicted seditionist felon.
I lost my right to bear arms.
I lost my right to vote here in Texas where I lost my all of my disability.
I'm going to say we'll veteran service connected.
I got a spinal fusion from parachuting accident while in service.
All that's gone.
VA sent me a nasty letter after my conviction that said, because you've been convicted of seditious conspiracy,
this is analogous to treason.
So therefore, all your benefits are gone.
And the last thing it said is you can no longer be buried in a veteran cemetery,
like the ultimate slap in the face of a veteran.
So this is the problem with being commuted not pardoned.
Everyone was pardoned except for 14 of us.
All 14 who were not pardoned.
We got commutations only are either oath keepers or proud boys.
That's it.
All of us who were charged with seditious conspiracy.
All of us who went to trial.
The two that rolled over and took a deal got no prison time.
Judge Metas and we gave me 18 years.
Gave these two guys Josh, James, and Todd Wilson.
No prison time gave them probation only.
And then when President Trump came into office again on January 20 of 2020,
well, it's 2025.
He said it's free, but because we were not pardoned, we're still commuted.
We've lost all our rights.
Those two though who took the deal and basically became rats for the deep state they got pardoned.
Explain that to me.
They put guilty to seditious conspiracy.
Same thing we were found guilty of.
But they were rewarded for their loyalty to the lie by being pardoned.
So I believe there's someone in President Trump's circle, someone like Todd Blanche, for example,
who is a deep stator who wants the false narrative to live on.
There really was a plot by oath keepers and proud boys.
And once those of us who refused to participate in the lie, they want us punished.
And they rewarded the ones who rolled over.
That's what I think.
There is a fellow who's gotten some attention for his work on behalf of those who were not pardoned Martin.
What are I mean, have you been in contact with him?
What are the chances that you might have been in contact with him through my attorney through Peter Tickton.
He's my attorney for my part.
And I'll be sending you the table.
I'm blessed with an invite from the chairman of the Republican Party of Palm Beach, Florida,
to come to this event at Mar-a-Lago, Lincoln dinner on Friday and Friday.
Oh, wow.
I'll be sitting with Peter Tickton at his table, me and Enrique Tariel, which is a great blessing.
So we're hoping President Trump's going to be there.
So we'll pray for that.
Enrique Tariel for people who don't know.
You see the founder of proud boys?
No, he wasn't the founder.
The founder that was founded by Gavin McKinnon's, but he was the lead right.
He was the national president of proud boys when J6 happened.
And he got railroaded also.
He wasn't even in DC.
He was in Maryland at the time.
But the same thing.
Show me the man.
I'll show you the crime.
So this is important for the audience to understand the setup of J6.
Enrique Tariel was the leader of the proud boys at the time.
I was the leader of the both keepers.
The deep state can talk to the false narrative was that Trump, as the kingpin,
like a mob conspiracy, Trump's the kingpin ordered Enrique Tariel and me
to send our attack dogs, you know, the old commission proud boys into the capital.
That's the whole big lie.
And so Enrique Tariel was directly told he can go home if he said that President Trump
told him to send his men inside.
He refused.
So yes.
So we were.
He was pardoned.
And I'm glad for that.
It might be because he was friends with Roger Stone.
It might be because his mother happened to be, you know, she went down to Mar-a-Lago
multiple times and appealed directly to President Trump.
I'm not glad he got pardoned.
I believe everyone deserves a pardon.
Yeah.
So the last 12 of us remaining, there's eight oath keepers, myself included, and four proud boys,
including Joe Biggs, Zach Reel, Marine Corps veteran, Joe Biggs, A second airborne,
Dominic Pasola, Marine Corps veteran, Kenny Arles, an Army veteran, Jessica Watkins Army veteran,
and Vallejo Marine Corps veteran, like eight of us are veterans, all lost our disability.
So I'm going, and my attitude is no man left behind.
I don't want a pardon unless the others are pardoned also.
So I hope I can get a chance to look President Trump in the eye and thank him for sending us free,
but then ask him to go all the way and restore us to our rights.
Give us a pardon.
Outside of your work with oath keepers or as part of oath keepers, actually,
you did a lot of disaster relief beginning with Hurricane Harvey in 2017.
Right.
Yeah.
And last year.
Yeah.
I mean, but the last year, the curvil Texas horrible flooding incident that just washed away
the camp without any warning.
It's kind of work of you and the oath keepers done over the years in the aftermath of events like that.
We did 14 major hurricane relief missions beginning with Harvey, including, you know,
Puerto Rico.
We're in Puerto Rico for three weeks, multiple titles in Florida, just anywhere in the South
that we have a hurricane.
And our guys have also helped out at fires and ice storms and just all across the country.
But yeah, when the, you know, I'm just not too long after I got it in prison.
The curvil was most horrible, terrific, all the loss of life of young kids.
It was just terrible.
So we went, we just jumped back in, you know, myself and other oath keepers from Texas.
And other J6ers, you know, Larry Brock, who's running for office in here in Texas and a 10 pilot,
he jumped in.
Myself and him, we rode together from Dallas, drove down there, you know, and pitched in.
A bunch of other J6ers did too.
So, yeah, just, just, but just, you know, this is what we always do.
We did that all through the entire time I ran oath keepers since Harvey.
So starting in 2017, we did disaster relief.
And we're back at it.
And I think it's a fantastic thing for veterans in particular.
Because too many veterans.
Too many guys come back from service and feel like they have no place in society.
And they, they kind of spiral into depression and they want to accumulate suicide.
It's just a lot of them do.
And that's one of the blessings of doing disaster relief.
Because I'm a very positive mission.
Where they could use their training.
So like we had one young man that volunteered.
I work with Doc Pete Chambers, who I was for governor of Texas.
And him and his men are fantastic.
I work with Buck up relief, you know, Robert and Jamie Aggie, AG.
And so great people to Christian ministry.
And all this pitched in together.
But I helped them bring in like additional 100 volunteers.
A lot of the veterans.
But young one kid, just one young kid was a 10th mountain.
But in combat that.
And he said that.
He said, this has been a blessing for me.
He says, this says, I was spiraling into depression, you know, getting, getting pretty bad.
And he said, this helps save my life.
Hmm. Yeah.
That is a, uh, a trueism.
I mean, it is seen over and over again.
That people who are at loose ends.
People who just don't know what to do.
People who think that they have no purpose of life.
When they start volunteering, when they start helping others.
Suddenly, their sense of self worth increases.
And it's a blessing.
And it is attention off yourself.
When you're focused on helping others.
It helps give you perspective.
They, you still have a mission.
And men are mission oriented.
A man without a mission is a lost man.
You got to have a mission.
And it is, it is criminal as, uh, as you've seen with the, uh, the veterans that you've worked with over the years.
That this country does not take, take care of veterans the way we should.
Yeah.
As you said, they come back without a sense of purpose, without a mission.
And, um, those skills that they were taught, go to waste.
Yeah.
You're supposed to be, frankly, but what should happen is you get out of, you know, standing army service.
You should be plugged in with your local militia, all the men of your county.
And the veterans should be put in charge of training, leading those men.
That's how the founders did it.
The veterans of the French and Indian more of the ones that led and trained all the other men.
But our government, at every level, county, state and federal does not want that.
They do not want the American people organized as militia and trained up.
Now, why is that?
They want intentional weakness.
When they're done with you, you serve in the military.
Oh, well, they'll tell you know, oh, wait, we support our troops and all this.
And since they're done with you, they fear you.
They don't want you organizing your counties.
And that's on purpose.
I'm going to say this straight up to your audience.
So right now we are vulnerable to terror cells that are in this country that will be going hot.
And increasingly, it already started.
But that's going to be used.
This is the powers it be you're setting us up for is a false choice.
Oh, you don't want terrorists that we all, you know, they open the border all those years, let them all in.
Right.
And they start cooking off.
No surprise.
All the Muslims that have been brought in this country start cooking off.
Oh, well, now you've got to jump into the arms of Peter Till and Palantir.
We're going to make sure we track everyone.
Gate recognition, Irish recognition.
We want to know everywhere you're going.
What you're doing, you know, you need to get permission to travel or whatever they're going to want.
I'm doing Chinese credit score or social credit score.
Yeah.
And it'll be used as just like 9-11 was used after they tack on the 22 hours.
This is their false choice.
If you want security, you got to give it freedom.
Central bank digital currencies.
And yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, trackable currencies are coming.
Right.
And this has been worrying about.
She's completely right.
You know, trackable money, trackable banking and also ID, digital ID.
It's all coming.
Here it comes.
Yeah.
No, we've been, we've been talking about this for years.
And I don't think people really realize how fast and how it's coming and how close it is.
Wow.
It's coming right now.
I mean, we've been warning.
It's like, no, you're like the old, the old, you know, tantos on the look,
put his ear to the ground and hear the tree.
Oh, your train coming.
Now you can see it.
Here it is.
Like, you know, there's lights of the train here.
It's here it comes.
It's coming right down the track.
That's why that's why I oppose JD Vance for President of the United States.
Because I know he is a creature of Peter Teal.
That's you funded him.
That's who put him in place in the Senate first.
And that's who then helped him become vice president.
That's why he's there.
So I do not trust him.
I do not support him.
I don't care what he says now.
I'll look at his past behavior.
I'm curious.
I'm curious.
I'm curious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Future performance is typically based on past behavior.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We called Trump a Nazi.
He was running for the Atlantic in the New York Times.
Right.
Basically, you know, kissing butt to the liberal left.
After he got out of Yale Law School, writing for all these lefty organizations,
worked for Peter Teal, who's married to another man, a radical transhumanist.
Yep.
Yeah.
And who, with Palantir, helped targeting systems for militaries all over the world.
Israel, any United States, and now is putting, you know, the project Gotham is going to be surveillance,
used by police departments all over the country is Peter Teal's technology.
Project Gotham.
Project Gotham.
Yeah.
Go look that one up.
I will.
We're aware of Palantir.
And of course, the name of Palantir comes from the seeing stones of the Lord of the Rings
that allowed the Dark Lord soar on to spy on all of the kings of Middle Earth.
Right.
To draw them into his circle of power.
Right.
Yeah.
It was a gift from the like, like all the rings that they left the nine ring raised.
He's right.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
We're like Tolkien geeks here.
But yeah.
The Palantir.
We're seeing stones created by the Dark Lord and given us gifts to kings of men to help influence them.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it drew one of the, gosh, I forget the name of the category of wizard that.
Saramon and Gandalf were.
Right.
But anyway, he drew Saramon into his, his orbit.
Right.
And of course, the king of Middle Earth or the, the steward of Gondor.
Right.
Poisoned his brain.
He only saw what the Dark Lord wanted to see.
And it made him despair and commit suicide.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he's so, Peter Teal, this transhumanist gay guy married another man.
Yeah.
Who does, that's what he does all over the world is targeting systems.
He's created, he created Palantir and named it after the Dark Lord's tool of oppression and dominance.
Yeah.
And interesting.
What are we now giving?
He's giving speeches on the soon arrival of the Antichrist.
He did four in San Francisco recently.
Now he's got four scheduled in Rome.
Right.
Yeah.
Now he's a Thor, an authority.
That's like I was watching Joe Rogan's podcast once.
And he's like, what's up with this obsession he has with the, with the frigate Antichrist?
Yeah.
That is, that is a question.
And we even figured that out yet.
I mean, my wife and I, Sharon, I've done 300 programs devoted to studying the Book of Revelation.
Right.
And so we dug deep into it.
We started with the Old Testament and dug deep into it.
But having you had figured out Peter Teal's obsession with the Antichrist yet.
So I'm going to go ahead and assume that it's not good.
You will be one of the featured speakers, a keynote speaker at the upcoming stay awake.
America event coming up this weekend, Friday and Saturday.
Obviously, of course, St. Lucie, Florida.
Right.
I'll be speaking on Saturday, because I'll be at Mar-a-Lago on Friday.
Right.
Right.
It looks like Tommy Roberts is also going to be there.
Yeah.
It's quite a lineup.
But Tommy Robertson, of course, are a good friend, Pastor Casper McLeod.
Right.
Dr. Brian Artis, who ironically spoke at a conference.
I spoke at in California back in 2022 and I came home with COVID.
And I'm not blaming Brian for it.
He and his wife are very nice people.
Dr. Judy, if it's Kathy O'Brien, if you've ever done any study into MK Ultra and the deep state,
that is you don't want to miss her presentation.
Kevin and Sam Sorbo will be there.
Bruce Blakeman, who's running for Gubernator, who's running for governor in New York.
And of course, Doc Pete Chambers is running for governor in Texas.
Enrique Tariel will be there.
Yeah.
Dr. Kerry Mayday, who I'll be speaking to in about 15 minutes here, actually.
Right.
About my own situation.
Coach Dave Dobbinmeier, past the Salt Ministries.
We love Dave.
And Alex.
Do you have anything?
Yep.
Coach Dave is on the list.
The good stuff again.
Yeah.
Many of us.
And Ivan Raichlin, too.
A good friend.
Ivan Raichlin.
Yeah.
Quite a few others.
We've spent the rest of our time together just reading lists of speakers.
And they listen to Peter.
I'm not sure she's going to be able to come in over the phone or what's going on.
But that'd be awesome.
Yes, I would.
But if you're interested, again, this is Friday and Saturday, Port St. Lucy, Florida,
truth, church.
If you can't be there in person, streaming videos available.
Again, information and registration.
It's stayawakeamerica.com.
Yeah.
What is next for you?
What is next for you, Stuart?
I mean, I got to imagine rebuilding your life is really difficult.
When you've got these black marks on your official record.
Well, it doesn't help, but I don't let it stop me.
So I'm driving on rebuilding of keepers.
Looking at the upcoming hurricane relief season.
I'll be focusing a lot on that, getting ready for that.
Or we want it.
You know, it was frustrating.
When the flood, when the flood happened in Texas this last summer.
And, you know, we do we best we could have bringing volunteers.
But one time I had, you know, a medal across the country.
I could tap into 40,000 members as peak.
So it's frustrating not to have that roster of guys, you know, to call up again.
So I got to remember building that.
And we hope that we'll have, you know, teams ready to go for hurricane season in each state.
So if anyone wants to volunteer for that, you know, please contact me.
You can contact me by personal message on on X or you can contact me on through the website.
Oathkeepers.info.
And you want to volunteer in advance, you know, training, appropriate training, military police or.
Or fire search and rescue EMS or whatever.
Hammer radios.
If you're, you know, if you're trained and can contribute.
Contact me and we'll put together teams in advance.
So this is again, a good way for.
For men and women who've got skills that many of us do not, you know, who depend on.
Those of you like you Stewart who volunteer in situations like this to get us out of.
Get us out of difficult situations.
So again, Oathkeepers.info.
Sorry, real Oathkeepers.
Deninfo.
Is that correct?
No, it's Oathkeepers.info.
Oathkeepers.info.
My ex channel is.
At real Oathkeepers and not real Oathkeepers.
I was, I was kicked off of X for some weird reason after I first got out of prison.
So that's, that's the, my personal account is still suspended.
But I started an Oathkeeper account and so far.
I'm not sure what's up, but they haven't, they haven't picked it up yet.
So I'm still there.
Well, it's hopes.
Let's hope that, you know, Elon Musk is, is true to his work in allowing a little more.
Yeah.
Wide range of opinions and free speech.
It was really strange and was previously.
I signed, I signed up for, you know, I'm back in like January of 2025.
I've, I've got out.
And as soon as I signed up for X Premium Plus two days later.
No, the next day boom, I was suspended.
So I think it might be, I'm not signed up for X Premium Plus right now at all.
Because I'm afraid that maybe that's a flagged to be looked at by somebody.
And someone in, in his, in his organization is a, you know, a holdover lefty that said,
Oh, I can't have this guy back on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it's hard to say.
All right.
Well, check the show notes for links to where you can get in touch with Stuart Rhodes.
Volunteer.
If you have the skills, we've got a.
What will be a wild weather season?
It's already started up here in the Ozarks.
We've seen weather blow up here.
And then, you know, send tornadoes off to the Northeast.
And of course, the hurricane season coming up later this year.
Well, you can do help and do some real good.
Hey, man.
One thing I like to say though is that back to the founders ideal of us as the militia.
It shouldn't take veterans from outside your state to help you.
You've already have veterans and trained men and women in your communities.
They're just not organized.
I really encourage everyone to focus on the local neighborhood church town county
and get strong and organized.
So that's why I'm also going to be starting.
I'm going to call the strong county project.
I've built a website for it yet.
Oh, okay.
That's coming.
And that's how to do focused on is is hey, let's get ourselves squared away.
I'm not going to ask people to join an organization to do that.
I just want you to focus on what you already have.
Everyone lives in a neighborhood.
You all got neighbors.
You just don't know who they are or what the skills are because you've been atomized.
You've been, you know, confined to your your fucking phone.
Everyone's like this all the time.
You look in their front.
Right.
So we got to get back to, okay, we all live in neighborhoods.
That's organized neighborhoods.
We all should be going to church.
That's organized in our church.
That church would be a refuge and time of storm to be a stronghold.
So physically, spiritually and mentally.
And then we all live in towns.
Let's get squirted with town level and the accounting level.
But bad guys understand this.
That's why George Soros is funded all these DAs all across the country
to go for wonny DAs.
He knows where the real fight is at.
It's down to the local level.
So we got to really focus on the local bottom up.
And that's what we've been on.
Especially when they come down with this beast system.
They're going to be offering us as our own choice.
We need to be resilient and independent of the local level.
To go people to fight back and not take the mark.
That's what I'm working on.
Amen.
Stuart Rhodes, founder of Oath Keepers and survivor of the January 6th aftermath.
God bless you, sir.
And I hope that we can see you in talk with you again.
And we thank you for tuning in and giving us an hour or so of your time.
And remember, we do this because we wrestle a lot against flesh and blood.
Good night, Oliver, wherever you are.
I'm Derek Gilbert.
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