Power Ranking the Best Week 1 Story Lines, the Michigan Mulligan, and the Listener Take Purge

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2:05We're actually here. It's crazy. I cannot believe we're starting. We have a Wednesday game. Is this the first time ever that we're starting on a Wednesday? I can't remember. No. Is that right? There's been another Wednesday kickoff? Like 13, 14 years ago, the Democratic National Convention was like on a Thursday. So they did it like the 2012 season. Politics always getting in the way. But I'm excited about that. It's going to kick the Patriots. But we're going to have a preview for you guys of week one. We're also going to be going. We're going to have like a Patriots conversation after that game. Free this week. We're going to have a 9ers Rams conversation after the Australia game. No one knows what it is. Kyle Shanahan doesn't know what time that game is. Nobody knows when 9ers Rams will be. But whenever that game happens, we're going to have a reaction to it that'll be up on the feed this week. And then we're in our end season schedule. Right Craig? We got Sunday recaps, Monday waivers, and power hours on Wednesdays. And we're going to have a previews of each week on Friday. So we're here. We're in the end season. Don't touch that dial. Go look at that dial and leave it alone.

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4:07$30 per line includes auto pay and switch discount. Additional taxes, fees and terms apply. All right, it's time for power hour. Week one power hour, week zero. I never know what to call it. We're going to go with week one. For those who don't know, we power rank every Wednesday. We're going to power rank stuff in this week. We're power ranking. Things we're actually excited to see because the seasons here and we talk about all this stuff in circles. And now it's actually just arriving. It's like this thing in theory. And then suddenly it's like no longer on the horizon. You just get out of the car and you're here. So we're going to go through and just things. We are earnestly, unironically, just happy to see on our televisions this week. Yeah, excited to see curious about. And I will say that. Power hour is going to sound a little bit different this year because look we're on Netflix now. Okay. And Netflix, we can't just play Tom Tom Club on Netflix. We'd have to pay Tom Tom Club a lot of money. And we can't do that. So Tom Tom Club, if you want to help us out, hit us up if you're listening. That'd be great. Either the Tom's either Tom or Tom or if there's somebody

5:09in club maybe. Please hit us up. But but in its place, we're going to be testing out. New sound drops today. We have three that we're going to run through. We're going to play them kind of in order back to back over and over by the end. We're going to see if one of them sticks. Maybe we'll hate it and move on to a new one next week. Also at home, if you're listening and you have an idea for what the sound drop should be, that is royalty free. Let us know and we'll consider it. Email us. And again, for those who don't know, we're going to do a power hour style as Craig's alluding to. So we're going to go, we're going to three minutes on the clock because we were two minutes. We were really skimping last year. We're going to do three minutes on the clock. And you know what? Just because we're on Netflix, it's not going to change how we're doing this show. Like we're saying, we're not going to just change because we're on Netflix. So every three minutes, you're going to hear this sound. Oh, okay. That's that's a little bit of a change. Yeah, what's wrong with that? I've never heard that before. That's not that's not related to anything, right? Do you think anyone has that? No, I think we're good.

6:09It's pretty good. Yeah, I think that's fine. Okay, we're going to find we're going to find what the sound is. But yeah, so every three minutes, we're going to we're going to do our pilot Tom Tom sounds. We're going to figure out what the new Tom Tom is. But without further ado, we're going to do it. Cam, start the clock. Three minutes on the clock. Danny Kelly, I'm starting with you. Give me the number one thing you're excited to see. Now that the NFL season's actually here. I am earnestly and sincerely very excited to see the Chargers and Justin Herbert with Mike McDaniel at OC. Maybe the most excited I've been to watch a new like a new offensive coordinator and his team in a really long time. Yeah, I just I cannot wait to see what this looks like. Do you remember when I think Trevor was at the Trevor Lawrence draft was the first time we had our own feed or maybe that was two years in. But I remember we ended up just not talking about Trevor Lawrence very much because we knew he was going to be the first overall pick in the draft. Yeah, yeah. And then like a week before the draft, we're like, why haven't we actually talked about Trevor Lawrence who's definitely the best quarterback in this class and like this is so exciting and all and how cool is this?

7:09The Jags are going to get Trevor Lawrence. I feel the same way about the Chargers and McDaniel where I'm like, like a quarter and a half into week one. Herbert might have 200 yards and two touchdowns and everyone's going to be like, holy shit. This is clearly like the biggest leap any team has made this season. Every now and then things live up to the hype. Yeah, and you never get credit and you know, things don't get credit. Unlike the Odyssey, right? I've had say, you know what? Look, I am happy that it exists. It's cool that it exists. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's, yeah. But we should do a ranking. We should do we should do things that lived up to the hype. I actually think number one is LeBron James. Properly rated. That's good. LeBron's number one. He had the chosen one tattooed on his back when he was like 16 and he's like, he's just the second greatest player ever. It's pretty damn good. Yeah, that's a good second greatest. I mean, at worst, but I'm just I think the greatest, the McRebi. I don't know. But I think that Mike McDaniel Chargers is going to be right there. Like I just, I really think Herbert is underrated in the hall. Oh, he was going to play off game.

8:09I just think that's going to kind of quietly go away. All the criticism and everyone's going to, everyone will pretend that they were on Herbert the whole time. And I just think that this could be really cool. I understand we're probably just going to step on a rake and it's like Charly Brown. We're trying to kick the football again. Maybe doing the 20th anniversary of like this is the year for the Chargers. But I actually just kind of think it's going to work. It'd be amazing immediately. Let me throw some numbers at you real quick. Mike McDaniel in Miami in four seasons. They were 12th and points per game in that stretch, 23.3. Basically the same almost exactly the same as with the Rams of average to over the last four years and scoring the Sean McVeigh Rams. They were 11th and points per driver of that stretch, eighth and success rate, eighth in yards per game, fifth in yards per play, fourth, lowest, three and out rate. And the 12th most rushed TDs for those of you who are hoping for O'Marion Hampton to be a thing this year. And he did all of that with Tuha and Tyler Huntley at quarterback. And in like half that time was with kind of new to alarm to a totally. And I think we're kind of forgetting a little bit about McDaniel. He got fired or whatever at the sort of a sloppy end to this whole

9:13to a era in the Dalton's history and everything. But man, I just think there is a real chance like after two months or something, we're talking about this team. This is like similar enough. God. I kind of like it. It's also quite long. You're fated out. Well, the sound drop itself takes three minutes. So that's its own category. Right off the bat, I'm going to rule that one and know. Oh, really? I like that one. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me do it. I totally agree. DK. I think that's among the top three things I'm most excited for. I would say the thing I'm most excited for is are the bears and Caleb Williams actually going to be the franchise of Destiny or was last year a one-off run where this team got really lucky. He hit a couple of hellmarries.

10:14One, every single score game they were in and they're going to go back to being basically a team of regression. And to me, it's basically high fits. Are you thinking with your brain? Are you thinking with your dick for the bears? In the words of Robin Williams, men have enough blood to, you know, oh fuck, men have two heads, but not enough blood to run both at the same time. I screwed it up. No, but I, I, I, you're paraphrasing him. Yes. I get the quote. I don't remember. I think this is a great one. I mean, I have said this a lot. I just think Caleb Williams is Aaron Rogers all over again. I can't speak highly enough about him. I think he's already going to be the best quarterback in bears history, basically. I think the defense is going to suck, but that might actually make it more fun. Yeah, like I, there's a few things that interest me about the bears this year. One, I think all of the emphasis people are putting on what were they? Seven and two in one score games last year and the hellmarries and all of that stuff is going

11:15to request back to me. I would like to counter that with like year two in Ben Johnson's system. And Caleb Williams actually not even being that great for a little bit of last year, because they were just figuring stuff out. And then actually kind of hitting their stretch, I would also argue that close games build momentum, they build confidence in high pressure situations. And so sure, maybe it'll even add a little bit, but I feel like the floors is going to be way higher with the bears this year. Yeah, I think it is one of those things where it's so fascinating because we're pairing up Caleb Williams, who was one of the highest, the most hyped quarterbacks in our lifetime, right? Like he's up there with Oliver. He's up there with Peyton. He's up there with Andrew Luck in terms of just hyped quarterbacks. And first year was a disaster. Second year, there was a ton of improvement. And he was paired up with, I would say one of the most hyped offensive play callers in Ben Johnson, what he did with the Lions. I think everybody wanted it. Like, you know what I mean? Everybody wanted Ben Johnson. He waited a year. He decided to go back to the Lions. So wait for the right opportunity.

12:16And then it is this storybook potential pairing between the great play collar and the great quarterback prospect and can they mesh together and create like the most magical offense? Maybe. I'm still kind of a little bit skeptical, I think, in the back of my mind, just a little fear that Caleb is a little too messy and too reliant on out of structure playmaking. I think a lot of people feel that way. I mean, the bears are 16th and superbawds. 16th, they almost made the final four last year. They have the third best odds in their own division. The Lions and Packers have better odds. Oh, I kind of like this one. I don't like this one too. Once again, too long, but fun. Maybe we can cut that one. Cut that one by 70 percent. It'll work. Speed it up. One final thing on the bears. They have the best rest edge in league this year. Warnsharp does like rest edge. They have number one 15 extra days of rest.

13:19Interesting. In their opponents. All right, so their bad starters and defense will be very well rested each week. No, it matters. But the thing I'm most excited to see actually just begin this season and just tired of talking about and want to see it, I want to see the Jalen Hertz, AJ Brown revenge tour. Ooh, who's more interested in revenge? Do you think it's quietly Jalen Hertz? Because it's obviously answer to be AJ Brown, or do you think it's secretly Jalen Hertz? I was shocked Jalen Hertz did that interview last week, that big interview. Was it with GQ where he sat down? And he sat down for a look a long time and that thing went viral. He was like, oh, he has the interview to stay because he wanted more time. But I was shocked to even address it right before the season. I think that alone meant to me it was bothering him. I want to see Jalen Hertz actually do this offense. Everyone can't say he can do. And I want to see AJ Brown have like 1800 receiving yards and be really angry. I want to see these things play out. Well, because I would say it's very obvious to me that Jalen Hertz is way more to prove than AJ Brown. I mean, people might think AJ Brown is like over the hill physically, but I don't think anyone is questioning whether or not AJ Brown is a good player.

14:22I think there's legitimate questions. If Jalen Hertz is not good in week one, the narrative will continue to grow that Jalen Hertz was perhaps like a two-year flash in the pan. I think you also say propped up propelled forward by teammates, maybe, just shoved into six. No, I actually think Jalen Hertz has a chance to be really good in this Eagles offense. I just, whatever happens, it's going to be like really messy. And honestly, it's going to be really interesting. If Jalen Hertz is fantastic in the Sean Manion offense, where they're going to do more, all these things that allegedly he can't do throwing over the middle, which he has not done as well, no matter what happens, it's going to be really interesting. Because if he's terrible, then Eagles fans are going to want to replace Jalen Hertz. And he's going to get cars in winced. But the flip side of his great, we're going to be like, wait a second. Like, the whole Jalen Hertz was a James Bradbury flag away from having the same meta-superbosus Patrick Mahomes. Like the Delta on the public perception Jalen Hertz this season is as dramatic as it could be. What for people that didn't see the interview, what did he say about AJ Brown? Because I didn't actually see that.

15:22He just was really, he basically was asked like, did you guys grow apart? And he was like, obviously. Yeah. But it just didn't even acknowledge it. He's such a quiet, stoic person that even sitting down for such a long interview, I thought was actually kind of notable. You know when couples are better, like, divorced than they are together? Like, I feel like that's Hertz and Brown. I saw them chatting like at the joint practice between New England and Philly. And it like they were, it seemed like they were getting along. I'm like, you know what? Sometimes, sometimes you need to move out. And things like that. Affleck and his, his, uh, Jennifer Gardner. Jennifer Gardner. Yeah. Jennifer Gardner. It sure. They're great co-pairs. Every other year. The Jalen Hertz's Affleck, I just 2021, it was a horrific Eagles loss in the Wild Card round and Hertz was on play. It was horrific. And then the next year they made the Super Bowl. And then the next year was a disgusting Eagles loss in the Wild Card round, where Jalen Hertz looked unplayable. And then the next year they won the Super Bowl. And then last year was a disgusting Wild Card loss in the playoffs, where Jalen Hertz looked terrible. And I'm, I just, the Eagles have been way too high on their own supply when they had a good year. And then they just get all over the place.

16:24And what is this song? This is... Wow. This one I kind of like. What? What do you mean it's a song you kind of like? That's not going to be in power hour. I think I, I think I ironically like it. I would like to vote that that one is immediately removed. Come on. You don't like to drop? I look, there was a time in a place for dubstep and when I was 18, I love Scrillex. Who did... There was a time in a place for dubstep. There was. Maybe that time is back, but I don't think so. Number one. Okay, give us, give us another... Yeah, well, I, I just, the Eagles, they're in every other year team. They are. Yeah. I agree with you. I'm very excited to see Eagles offense. I can't wait to, they're going to have seven points in the third quarter. And I'm going to be pissed. All right, the next one that I'm very excited about is the answer to the question of whether

17:25Lamar Jackson and Jane Daniels can bounce back after collectively playing horribly last year. Especially in fantasy. I think this is a fantasy specific thing for me because there's a world in which Lamar and Jaden are just one, two in fantasy, right? Like we've seen Lamar's history, what he's done, and then Jaden as a rookie was, was incredible. But I just want to see if they can bounce back is basically, it's going to be so fun to see this in week one. These are probably the two biggest risky quarterbacks that you're going to have to spend a lot of money on and drafts this year, I would say. Lamar, I'm much more confident that he just had a hamstring injury. I think like this surrounding situation of Jaden Daniels is much more up in the air, like the offensive line. You have McLaren and you have digs, the running game, even the system with David Blow. I heard some guy in the take purge yelling about young offensive coordinators and how that bubble's going to pop. I thought that was a decent take. But I feel much more confident that even though I guess Lamar Jackson's OC is also 30 years old.

18:27They also have a new center who I've never heard of. Seventh rounder playing center for them. What could go wrong after Linda Bums gone, but I feel much more confident. I mean, we've seen it more with Lamar. I feel more confident that Lamar is going to bounce right back and Derek Henry and the offensive will be fine. I am torn because for the same reason. Yeah, what's his name? Javon Gwynn. That makes you sad at center. But over, I really would love nothing more than it's just a giant Lamar Jackson bounce back season. It's incredible. Let me help people act like the 44 touchdown for the reception season like didn't happen to years ago. Two minutes ago, we averaged 25 points a game. Yeah, I just think Lamar fucking season would be phenomenal. I would absolutely love to see that. I feel like people forget Jayden Daniels rookie season more than they forget Lamar's 2024. Jayden, the fluke, the fear is that Jayden Daniels is a twig who's not necessarily going to be able to stay healthy for like an entire season. Has a bad offensive line. Had Kingsbury. It's got like, I just think people are dubious that he can even stay healthy. Honestly, that he's RG4. That is the fear that Washington Fitz have of Jayden Daniels.

19:28Lamar, I mean, he was incredible for six years. I want to see him run again. I think we all want to see Lamar go fast again. He's like Ricky Bobby like just just just go fast. You sure said RG5. Legal. Oh, fuck, that's really. Oh, my god. Oh, my god. Jayden Daniels RG5. No, we can't say that because it's retired. Well, we can't. Oh, yeah, right. RG4 out of respect for RG3 and Jayden Daniels. That's Jayden. That's good. I just have to like remind myself of how good Jayden was. Like I have to go back and almost watch highlights from his rookie season to remember that there was a time in which I thought this guy was like a top three, top four quarterback guaranteed over the next five years. And then he was literally unstoppable. If it was like third and three, his at the end of his rookie season, I was like, Josh Allen, Maholms and like maybe Jayden Daniels, number three in terms of getting a third and third. Washington made the end of the championship game. Yes. The end of the championship game. What if, what if we, cam cut that short? Oh, he's been in the lab.

20:29Holy shit. Someone cooked here. That? How do we feel about that? That's not I don't like them like. I still don't like it. It sounds like like soft core porn. Craig get the fuck out of here, man. Come on. You're good. Tom Tom. He kind of did too. Did you make that song? DK, why are you offended? I don't know. Did you quietly make it like soft core porn? I can't tell you. I even know the definition of soft core porn. I believe it's I believe it's no penetration. No full penetration. Yeah, I think fake penetration. I believe nudity is okay, but there's no penetration. Right. I don't think there's even dick. Like you can't like it's just. It might be it's wrong. It might be top up nudity. I don't know. But I believe. Yeah, it's like all this stuff that used to play on like HBO late at night. Right. Like like like skin of max. Is that all the stuff that we were watching scrambled? Was that what it was called? I don't know. Anyway. The thing I'm most excited to see. Yeah, what's your soft core porn? Your most excited to see.

21:30Well, yeah, I won't get into what I'm really most excited to see. For the purposes of this show, no, one thing I'm very excited to see, very curious to see is like, what CG Straub looks like for the Texans? Because I do think if he comes out the gate, they play the bills week one. If he comes out the gate looking solid, I think the Texans will immediately be viewed as the super bowl favorite in the AFC. And yeah, I just, I can't tell if the hate has gone too far with Straub. I think it might have. I thought it was very interesting. Jeremy Fowler reported that he turned down a, that Straub declined to $50 million of your contract. The Texans like neither confirmed nor denied that. But it sounds like Straub is going to play out this season and try to get an even bigger deal. He's like, everything suggests that Straub has really like focused up this year, doubled down. He came dressed to camp like a middle schooler, which I thought was kind of good. And look, I say this all the time. Complimentary, yes. Complimentary. He's focused on the game. I say this all the time, but like year two in the system, we're talking about Caleb with Ben Johnson, Trevor Lawrence, and Liam Cohen.

22:30Quietly, this is year two for Straub and Nick Kayley. So, yeah, I'm interested to see if Straub can get back to you. Much like Jaden Daniels, like the guy we knew two years ago who I thought was going to be one of the best five quarterbacks in the league. Yeah. I like this one a lot. I think especially just when you consider, the Texans have one of the best defense in the NFL. If he even just plays average, if he even just isn't a disaster, they're going to be one of the best teams in the NFL. It doesn't help that, you know, Jaden Higgins got hurt. I think that kind of potentially hurts them, but they do have a pretty deep receiver core, Nico Collins. I like Jalen Noll coming into year two. There's some guys in that offense that I think could help pick up some of the slack. And then obviously David Montgomery, the run game. If the run game can get going even a little bit, so huge. Just a little bit. I mean, since Straub was drafted, the Texans are 31st in rushing success rate. And they've probably had a bottom five line the entire time. So I will say the line in the rushing game has not helped Straub, perhaps more than any quarterback in the league.

23:32I think David Montgomery's just rock solid. He's also really got a pass protection. And Woody Marx was not the rookie last year. I think that's going to help a lot. I think the offense has got to be a little more creative. I feel like there was, I have a Kaylee offense. There's a lot of stats about how underrated Straub was when they used to play action or motion last year. And when they were just kind of static Straub struggled a little bit more. So I don't know. I do think the hate's going a little bit too far with Straub. We have the bad taste in our mouth from those two playoff games. I mean, four picks against the Pats. He was terrible against his dealers. Which of your favorite, which of the five fumbles Straub had in a playoff game? Whichever one made me think, sure, I just do. I was going to win this game. Is that the best Texans defense stat that there is? Is that Straub fumbled five times in the D and they won a game? It was, that was like a one point game going. It was like seven to six going into the quarter. It was very close. Yeah. I strad, again, if Darnold can win a Super Bowl, then Straub can too. But also, I don't think there's anybody in the league that has more pressure on them this season than Siege Straub. And the Texans are lying. And this soft jazz.

24:33Wow. Ooh. Ooh. That had a nice little wrap up. That crispier, yeah. Straub. Anyway. I just, I want to get back to that. I want it to be Straub complimentary, not Straub. Straub. I think, I think I might, is it illegal for me to like pause mid power hour and do a take perch because it actually involves two players that just came up or is that insane? Is this a listener take perjure your person? It's the listener take perjure. Sure. Let's, we'll pause power hour. Oh, let's throw one out there. Okay. Because this is, it's, it's on topic. And I just, I just think it has to be done. Okay. Or do you have to go search and find the email? No, I got it. We just explain what, if some people did a list of the take perjure, can you explain what we're doing here? Yeah. Once a year, we step inside the take perjure for 60 minutes to give, to give our hot takes that have been lingering inside us, but without any professional credibility, we're not held responsible for the, any takes that have been festering that we give out during the take perjure every year.

25:34And we did it on Labor Day this year. So this, this is a listener purge from nerd works. Nerd works and bone. And I'm a little obsessed with it. It's that swapping CJ Stroud to the Eagles and Jalen Hertz to the Texans would be better for both teams. Oh, interesting. Heard's on the Texans who never, Jalen Hertz never turns the ball over in Houston. And then CJ Stroud plays for the Eagles and both teams would be better off. I want to see it. Who says no? Who said no? I don't know who says no. Does that say no? It's a fun take, but here's my only pushback. Wouldn't we argue that Hertz, Hertz has been, you could argue that one of the reasons why Hertz has been such a successful is because of the dominance of the offensive line and the push push and like all of that stuff would cannot happen in Houston. And if he used to, it would be disastrous. I'd be imagining. Just had to throw it out. Good take. It was like, yeah, it's got, I like, I do like to just switch these players who says no discussions. Eagles fans are like, we would never, but it's not, it's not, it's not hard to imagine a year from now.

26:35Maybe it, maybe it dovetails. I have a question that I, that I, I really don't mean to be sick of antics to our boss. But did Bill Simmons invent who says no? He made that pot phrase popular. He did. Which trades. Right? For trades. Yeah, I think he did. I don't know. That is, yes. That's become kind of a part of the lexicon. Am I like, I say who says no all the time now? No, that one Bill gets credit for. I'm like, I'm like pizza to salad. Who says no? Like I'm doing that constantly. Who says, and everybody loves it. Software porn music for power hour. Who says no? Who says no? I feel like you guys are kind of messing up the who says no format though. Yeah, I mean two different things. It's true. No, I know, but I just kind of throw it out there. It's like a why not, you know? Speaking of messing up formats, we're messing up power hour. It's my fault. I messed up power hour. We all said yes to that. But anyway, back to power. Three minutes on the clock, Kim. I want to throw one out. Things were actually said before. This is kind of lame. But we haven't talked about this person at all. This is like maybe the last ride with the chiefs as we know them. I know there was news. There was news today that my homes is playing in week one.

27:35I was like, oh, right. I guess that was kind of a question. Patrick Mahomes just coming back off in ACL. We're in this weird gap here. We're the first half of Patrick Mahomes's career is over. And the second one hasn't quite started yet. We still have all the old characters transitioning us to the sequels. Like Travis Kelsey's the lear. But they set themselves up to move on from Chris Jones after this year. On this Chris Jones plays great. I think they're going to cut Chris Jones. Kelsey might retire. And Andy read his 68 years old. And this is probably the last year we have all four of those people. And it's also some homes coming off in ACL. Like I kind of want to see Patrick Mahomes have this fuck you season. Like it's probably very weird for Patrick Mahomes to look and just not be a part of NFL discourse. What's the weather in the year? At least the least he's been since he started being a starter. And I would love to have Mahomes come out and just like go guns blazing from the jump. I don't know if it's going to happen. But I don't know. It's funny that he's just not a main character entering this year. At least the least he's been so far. It is funny that throughout the off season across most of the NFL media coverage

28:39of this upcoming season. There has not been a lot of like takes about the chiefs. I'm picking the chiefs this year to win the division. I think the chiefs are going to be sneaky good. Like the chiefs have really just gone undiscussed pretty much for the entire summer. Which I don't know if that's a good time for Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. You're right. Being in jail and rehabbing his knee. Other than that, Kelsey getting married I think was more than the chiefs. It's all off field stuff. Yes. I don't know if that's a good sign. Like everyone's sleeping. This is a nobody believes in us team. Or if it's a bad sign that everybody who analyzes football doesn't believe in that. Well, he's rushing back from the ACL. It's weird. I kind of think if the chiefs missed the playoffs again. I think people are going to have whispers about Andy Reed. It should be out as the coach. I think you can miss the playoffs with Mahomes once. Wouldn't you do it twice? People are going to be like, I don't have fire Andy Reed. I don't think the firem after this season. But if they missed the playoffs again, they're going to go in the next year and they're going to be like, okay, well, you can't miss the playoffs with Mahomes three times. Like that's just... Hey, Vitz, weren't you sitting on a tag? We were talking about this when you guys were in LA last week. We were all kind of circling a take purge about Kyle Shanahan's going to be the coach of the

29:42Chiefs in 2007. I think so. It's the perfect outcome. So if the Chiefs missed the playoffs this year, the coach of the Chiefs in like 2029 should just be Kyle Shanahan. Because Andy Reed's going to be 70. And honestly, the game is moving... There's nothing wrong with it. Like, you're 70 years old. He's no longer the best coach in the NFL. And Kyle Shanahan's kind of the perfect person. The Niners thing seems exhausting. And like, it's Kyle Shanahan kind of is Andy Reed. Honestly, like if you look at Andy Reed's tenure with the Eagles and just making NFC championship games, not getting over the hump, offensive genius with game management things, runs an incredible old-school program, Kyle Shanahan, like, I see the Andy Reed beating Kyle Shanahan super balls, like Atlas giving the way to the world. I'm going to Kyle Shanahan's soap shoulders. God damn it. Is this what the substation sounds like? That's what the inside of your helmet sounds like. Yeah, it's what it sounds like inside George Kiddles of Killy's. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I do think there's something that Niners under perform, Chiefs under perform again. They get rid of Reed.

30:43Shanahan wants a new... Yeah, it's just tired. He's like, I'll take Patrick Mahomes. That sounds great. I do... I'm going to already disrespect this new thing. We don't have a name for it. But I do want to just think that never gets discussed. Mahomes's career in Brady is like insanely similar. Like his 20s are over. We're now Mahomes, and he's going to be pre-ACL tier and post-ACL tier. Yeah, yeah. We'll be how we discuss Mahomes's career. It's the same time they basically tore their ACL. And Mahomes's 20s made five Super Bowls 13 and then never missed an AFC championship game until he tore his ACL. Well, pretty good 20s. There was a 10-year stretch between Patriots winning Super Bowls, 04 to 2014. And so there was that dip. And so it's like it is kind of happening right now with Mahomes. So I kind of think that there will be a plateau and Reed will move on. Anyway, the other one I want to throw a three minutes on the clock for is something we've talked about a ton that I just want to see. Like I'm tired of just like predicting what's going to happen. I can't wait to just watch it. Is Kyler Murray on the Vikings? This is bizarre to me.

31:43It is a huge test for Kevin O'Connell. And it's a huge test for Kyler Murray, who, enough to steal another Bill Simmons'ism, is so overrated now that I think Kyler Murray is underrated. To use another Bill Simmons'ism, can I see it before I hop on board? Can I see it? Can I watch it? What about the Justin Jefferson piece? Oh, okay. We're just doing an entire episode of Bill Simmons'ism. That'd be actually pretty fun. Yeah. I do just think this Vikings Kyler teams the perfect regular season team. We did a whole episode who's going to be the cults this year. I think it's the Vikings. The vibe. Like everything about Minnesota, honestly defensively too, Brian Flores. They're really built really well to overwhelm teams with bad quarterbacks. And I think Kyler's the perfect regular season quarterback. I don't want to buy my team for $50 million a year as a leader, as a body language guy, even running the structure of the offense. I have questions. Under center, he's played mostly in shotgun. It's like he's an aging, smaller athletic guy, which usually ages badly. But holy cow, it's almost underdiscussed. This is the best contract in the entire NFL. Kyler Murray, if he was a punter,

32:44would be not in the top 20 highest paid punters this season. What do you think is a better deal? Getting Kyler Murray for a million or paying 50 to not have to. What's better? It's a toss up. Who's like getting more out of two? A Miami or Atlanta? I don't know. I don't know who has a better deal right now. Atlanta or Miami, who are guarding two of them? Trade them back. Who says no? I don't know. If you cannot tell Miami, you would get the 50 million back, but you have two. If two is your starter and you're trying to be good for one million dollars, or you pay him 50 to not be your starter and you're trying to be bad, what's a better situation? It's Miami. Two is going to play three quarters, and then the Falcons are going to be like, damn, we kind of wish Jack Strand could play. Hi, Fitz, I have a bone to pick with this Minnesota take, because I don't feel that you fully believe it. Because if you did, you would have been hyping up Vikings players all off season,

33:45and you didn't. You have not really talked about Jordan Addison, John Jennings, even Justin Jefferson, I feel like Aaron Jones, George Mason, I feel like you've been Luke Warman, Minnesota. You have not leaned all the way in, and you just hopped in here September 9th, being like, How have I been saying Kyler is the guy you were? Kyler, yes, sure. I think it's a lot like JD. You said it's, they're this year's Colts. If that's the case, why aren't you drafting every Viking? Uh, I think because if you look at like JD and Daniels in Washington two years ago, I don't mean to ambush you. So I know this is fine. Fucking ambush me. I'm ready. Accountability, right? It's power hour. This is our closest to first take. Power hours close to here. We should have a sex segment called ambush. That's actually really funny. Two years ago in Washington, who did you want on that team? You want to JD and Daniels? Terry McClure, but, uh, but, uh, sure. Sure. Sure, but where's Justin Jefferson going? He's going 10th. Like there's no value there. He's literally being priced like the fourth receiver. There's no value. Yeah, I just think if you think they're going to be this year's Colts, does that not imply everybody on the Vikings is a screaming by what we have been we've been talking about.

34:47Jordan Mason is a really good value running back. I don't like Aaron Jones because I think Aaron Jones just always gets hurt and has worked with management. We talked about Jordan Mason. I think the person is going to be good. It's Kyler Murray, who I said over and over. He ran for 550 yards two years ago. Kyler Murray is the guy I want fantasy because he's going to be scrambling and the scramble Joe's going to happen. And if Jefferson's doubled, sure he might look to Jordan. Madison is a he's just going to run. I think Kyler's still way more athletic than people give him credit for. And again, he's I have done two different drafts this year. He didn't even get drafted sometimes. Like he's falling and falling and falling. And I'm just like he's fall. I've some fall of the fifth 14th round. Oh, gosh, you're fucking satisfied. Oh, yeah. Not really because I feel like I meant I Jordan Mason was my sleeper this year. I feel like you haven't mentioned many receivers. Hock and Sain. We had all Kyler argument and you yelled at me. It just Kyler. It was just Kyler. I was one bringing up Kyler. I'm just surprised you haven't been mentioning other Vikings. That's all. Hock and Sain. You were on like three months ago. You kind of backed off that. I think the answer is because you want Kyler Murray. It's because Justin Jefferson, I think, is priced.

35:48This is Kyler. We'll definitely get in the ball. Jordan, Madison, I do like, but I think it's very touched on dependent. I just think the person that's like the screaming value is Kyler. Kyler is the guy. All right. I'm sorry. Well, you're not. I didn't mean to yell you. I really didn't mean to I didn't mean to call you out like that. I was more just curious. Like, oh, why haven't you been more into other Vikings players? I think the short answer is because I think the value is that he's just just scrambling is the value. Great. All right. This is like, all right. Can I fucking talk now about the next thing? Well, actually, can we do three minutes? Three minutes. I'm ambushing Craig. Okay. No, no, not really. I actually, can I just, this is while we're doing on ironic analysis? You're going to talk about DK Mechaff and his conspiracy theories for a second there. Spreading Craig. What did he say? Bilateral Achilles tendon. I mean, it's like the rot. DK Mechaff, I, DK maybe I only read a couple headlines. Maybe I mean, I didn't actually read it.

36:49I didn't like read it to a deeply, but it was basically like, yeah, I'm a conspiracy. DK Mechaff was asked about this when he was doing his press reads is, yeah, I'm a conspiracy theorist. Shout out my quarterback. And then he starts talking about, are there, there's a whole nother world? I didn't even fucking heard this conspiracy. There's apparently a whole nother world on Antarctica. Yeah. I can tell you different dimension. I, I, I, I need to stop listening, but yeah, you can go there if you want. Aaron Rogers is like a holliver guy. Do you ever think this is maybe a distraction? All this bullshit? I don't know. It seems bad. I would argue it's team building, but yeah, they're talking about world views, you know, right? Jim, dear research. If you find it out, they're team, they're team building. They're telling ghost stories around the campfire. Big deal. Sure, sure. Let him have a good time. Oh, please the fifth. Settle down. The Ringer Fantasy football show is brought to you by Fandall. The NFL is back in Fandall's making this your most rewarding season ever by kicking off football with a super boost. Patriots, Seahawks, one game, and all you need is one point. Here's how it works.

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38:56This message is brought to you by Apple Card. With Apple Card, you earn unlimited daily cash back on everyday purchases like groceries, merch or tickets to the game. Plus, it can be used anywhere master card is accepted. No matter your team, no matter where you shop, Apple Card is here to help you tackle game day. Apply on the wallet app on your iPhone today. Subject to credit approval. Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA Salt Lake City Branch terms and more at applecard.com. We haven't given Super Bowl picks. Do you guys have Super Bowl picks? Sure. I'll go. Fuck it. How about this? The Seahawks. Oh yeah? Yeah. How about this? Oh, you just follow and build sentence once again? Come on. Oh, did he pick the Seahawks hell yeah? Seahawks number one. They just want a Super Bowl. Now, you really think that they're going to go back to back? No, but I'm going to say that idea. What? No. Oh, if you had to pick a Super Bowl winner is like so ridiculous.

39:58We'll wait. The Seahawks are one of the best teams in the NFL. I'm picking the Seahawks. If anyone's wondering why we didn't do it till now, this is why it's. He hates picking the Seahawks. So, so, so, so, he hates picking the Seahawks. The Seahawks are the best team in the NFL. I'm gonna say it. You just said, I know I don't think they're going to repeat, but if I had to pick a Super Bowl winner, which I think is stupid, I would pick the Seahawks. Yes. That's what I'm saying. That makes literally no sense. That is like a fucking no. No, I'm really. It's, it's, I think it's silly to say, oh yeah, this team's gonna win the Super Bowl. When there's like 17 weeks of crazy injuries and weird shit that's gonna happen. Like, I don't know who's gonna. We should pick who we're gonna pick. Do I actually believe that my heart's? Searly that any of my picks are going to turn out right now. DK. DK. What? If you had to bet a million dollars, who would win the Super Bowl? Who would you pick? The Seahawks. But you would. Yeah. Okay. I just ask you really. I don't think, I don't think any of our picks are going to be right probably. Oh, well, yeah. Okay. Is that because that's what you asked me. Do you really think they're gonna win? I'm like, I don't know maybe.

40:59You're like my mom. I think the best team in the league. You're like my mom and I ask her a hypothetical. I'm like, would you rather eat gum off the roof of your, the floor of your shoe or would you rather lick a subway handrail? She's rather and she's like neither. I'm like, well, you can't pick neither. She's like, why not? Because you can't. That's not the game. You have to either lick a handrail or eat the gum off the ground. She's like neither. Why? I picked the Seahawks. But you just said you don't think they're going to win. Look, we're going in circles here. Exactly. You ask me to pick a winner and I said the Seahawks. I'm licking the handrail. Okay. All right. Hi, Vince, who do you think is super? Seahawks, but I don't think they're going to win. No kidding. I kind of think I kind of keep just come back to Rams Ravens. I know it's really lame to just pick the Rams and super teams probably never work. And Stafford will get hurt. But holy cow, man, the Rams are probably going to be really good. And yeah, like Stafford get hurt, but the Texans defense, anyone gets hurt on that thing stingly will Anderson.

42:01I'm like, I don't know about that. I mean, I just think the Rams are going to be really good. And I kind of believe a lot. Jesse Mentor and the Ravens, man, I think it's Mike McDonald took. He needed an extra year to teach the Seahawks the defense. But the Ravens, the things Jesse Mentor's going to try to do. Like they've kind of all know that stuff. Like Kalei Emelton knows this stuff. I kind of think they'll just be able to adapt easier. And obviously, it depends on Declan Doyle in this random center. We don't really know much about. But I kind of think the Ravens are good and Lamar kind of shuts everyone up. Kaya, you really think? You really think it's good? I don't actually think that. I just say, yes. I think I love the team. If you had a million dollars, are you making that bet? You should have said that other take perch, predicted the Seahawks to. What is that mocking me? I'm saying if you literally had a million dollars and somebody said you have to pick a team that you think is going to win the Super Bowl, who would you pick? Okay. Okay. I was just trying to light the moment. We don't have to re-litigate it again. I think it's just fun. It's litigated again. It's fun. That's not the most common question in all football. It is. It is. I'm just saying, like if we started the playoffs, I like still that Super Confident who's going to win the Super Bowl.

43:04My question is not, if you, who do you know will win the Super Bowl? That of course not. Okay. Well. I think the Seahawks are going to win. How about that? Okay. And they're going to beat the Texans. I didn't give my opponent. Um. It's so mad at me. This is great. I can't believe that you're like put out by being asked, who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl? That's not true. That all. I'm going to pick the Buffalo Bills to win the Super Bowl. That makes me happy. I think it's the best thing left on the board in like American sports. Now the thing is one of the titles I think the bills you like the United country. Yeah. I don't know. I just think like the bills are good every year. Josh Allen has a number one water seeber. I still think he's the best quarterback in the league. And I feel like because he hasn't done it the last three years, everybody just assumed it can't happen now. But I, I 100% think the bills would be my pick. I don't know who I pick in the NFC. It's tricky because like the Rams are sitting there. And I'm like, I guess I would say the Rams, but they're just just so top heavy.

44:04And if you don't pick the Rams, Seattle repeating and then you get down to like the Eagles in San Francisco. I don't know. Maybe I'll just pick fucking Chicago. Maybe I'll say Buffalo Chicago in this year ball. It'll be fun. Yeah. I mean, that would be good for content. Bad for defense wins championships, but I just do it. Well, the bills will win. There you go. So that's why. You know, there's my pick. D.K.D. What do you think, D.K.? Do you think he actually blows that? Look, he kind of did what I did on the whole NFC side. I'll be honest. That's I picked the team to win the Super Bowl. What you did. You were like, I'm on the NFC. I don't know. I'll say I'll say the bears. This makes me so happy. You did. Couple of other things I want to get to. Especially when I didn't see how it's not at all. It's not at all. It's not. No, it's not. You said it's a super question. It shouldn't be asked. No, that's not what I said. It's not a stupid question. I said a stupid question is you really think that. I'm like, I don't know. Yeah. No, I believe you said being asked, who do I think is going to win the Super Bowl is a ridiculous question.

45:07No, it was your response to when you said you really think they're going to win. I'm like, I don't know. This is my pick. That was what I was reacting to. No, you said no. I said you actually think they're going to repeat. You said no. Like, okay. For residing probabilities is what I meant. Like who's short? But you think they have the best chance in your months. Yes. Yes. Okay. All right. Yeah. I'm glad we got that. DK always pretends that predictions mean that like if you're wrong, you die and so he just won't make them. Oh, yeah. It's fine. This is why we invented the take purge. Yeah. Right. For complicated questions, like who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl? That was our first segment of English. What's the game? I was reacting to your reaction more than the question. It was like enthusiasm. I was like, oh, really? You think they're going to repeat and you're like, well, no. I think I'd imagine if DK had to do all the faddle at it. He's like, oh, I got to make a bet for six patriots. I mean, who knows, really? Yeah. I don't actually think this is going to happen.

46:08Maybe the Bears. I don't know. Shit. I was 32. I'm saying, man. Hell, Ricky, I was high when I said that. You can be second, third, fourth. We should be able to bet. Yeah, DK, who do you think will come in fifth instead of full season? That's what I want to know. Okay. I do want to get to two other things that I think are really funny. One, I want to give an update on this Australia game, which I is just being talked about the proper amount. It is unbelievable. There's an additional game on Australia. I can't get enough of the time. I do think it's funny. David Lombard who covers the nine is noted that for all 70 players on the 90s active roster and practice squad participated for the first time all year, which is just funny. That as soon as they get away from the station away from San Francisco. I said this in the take part. Just what I'm saying. Nine away. Kind of. I want to just play the clip that maybe you've seen it already. But if you haven't, just you get to enjoy this for the first time. Just you only get to experience this for the first time once. Can you please play the clip of Kyle. This is like watching the movie. Tenet. Yeah.

47:08Really is Kyle Shannon. Here's Kyle Shannon again in Australia. A week early to prep for the game. He said seven days to prepare for being there. Please play Kyle Shannon trying to explain to the media what day it is. It is yesterday. I don't even get how that's possible. So I feel like I'm in the future. And then also when we play on our Friday, which I think is the Thursday in the US, we're such creatures of habit. So I call it today Tuesday. No wait, sorry. I call it today Wednesday, which is the first day we put in a game. But I think it's Monday. How is it going Sunday and the present? So like I'm going to mess that up all week if you guys ask me. But today is just our first day of the game plan, which is a Wednesday. And we'll put in some on a Thursday. Friday is the final part of the game plan. Saturday we walked in when we play on Sunday, which is a Friday in Australia and a Thursday and on the US. So don't ever make me do that again. You want to hear something that might take coming out of that. Is that Kyle Shannon's fucking back? Because that was exactly right. I know. I was going to say, is it weird that I totally see what he's saying?

48:09He is, he nailed it. The fact that he just rattled that off, extend perenniously was incredibly impressive. His concussion is fixed. And I'm betting the Niners. It's fixed. They fixed it. You can know that. Like I can't believe he was like it's technically Friday, but it's really Thursday. So for me, it's Tuesday, even though it's actually really Monday. But in reality, that's actually Sunday. I'm like, you're cooking right now, Kyle. You're right. Borderline, the guy who's like, Noon to three, that's my second day. I'm kicking your ass. Oh my God, he lives four days. Three days every day, four days every day. That's my favorite video of all time. I'm kicking your butt. Noon to six a.m. that's day one. Six a.m. to Noon, that's day two. No, actually, now I think the 49ers are going to win. I do too. I legitimately feel that way. And I actually am now, I've now flipped where I think what the Rams are doing is reckless. Yes, I never said these to smoke at halftime. They'll be fine. The jet lag is not that big of a deal. It's fine.

49:10It is amazing. It just comes back. Like, yeah, we'll be fucking football. The other one we have to talk about is this college football, this Michigan Hail Mary situation, which is a great start. This is what I was watching that shit live. Were you guys? No, I watched it after. I was not why I was not able to watch it live. And then why I just kind of heard everything blow up on my phone. And then I watched the replay. I mean, it's actually has to remain the worst call of the season. Was the first call of the season. And it's actually one of the worst calls of all time. I fully agree with you. And I went when they when they gave once when they put one second back on the clock, I was with friends in Tahoe and we were all like, Michigan, they're obviously going to complete this Hail Mary now. Like, this is just how this works. Yeah. And of course, they did. What's funny is like just how this worked. So initially it was like, this is bullshit. They gave this to Michigan. They would have never done this if it were flipped. But then I believe the big 10 and the Mac kind of like came together and the big 10 provide their reasoning for why this happened.

50:14And the Mac accepted it and was like, hey, if you actually look at it when the Western Michigan defender touched the ball, he jumped from out of bounds. Thus ending the plane, if you check the clock, the ref's clock or like, you know, the internal clock, there was one second left. And when I read that, I was like, all right, I mean, I guess that's just really unlucky for Western Michigan. And now there's been a push back to that where the Western Michigan is like, actually, you shouldn't be using an internal clock. You need to be the rules that you need to use the game clock. And when you look at the game clock, it fucking expired. So give us the goddamn win. It's one of the worst application of the rules I've ever seen, both in the moment. And then like it took them three days to even get to the ruling itself. Yeah. Because for those who don't know, I mean, everyone's probably seen it, but they literally Michigan's losing my five throws a helmet with nine seconds left. Ball hits before the ball even gets to any of the players. It's at zero seconds at the clock. Michigan loses. They come back on the field. They're like, review. They give them the ball back. Michigan, they decide there's like a tenth of a second left. Michigan hits the helmet. It wins the game. But to your point, the refs come out. They're like, well, we had our own clock in the booth that no one's allowed to see.

51:19And that clock, we are a double-c clock. A probation clock. Our secret clock says there's two tenths of a second. And then they're like, and there's no way it's wrong because we synchronize them with strobe lights. So there's no way it's wrong. And then they just go through this and they're saying, why would the broadcast want to be wrong then? Exactly. Because they were showing the clock that was on the field. They were wrong. Like the answer is the rest are wrong and they doubled down on it and everyone was panicking and making mistakes as they cited. It was like dodgeball. They're like, rude to 12 ADAD. And Mike Pereira. And every now and then you forget these guys are great at this. Mike Pereira comes out and just says it in English. And he's like, the rule is the referees in the booth are supposed to go off the telecast. This whole, well, we have a fake clock. You don't use that in that situation. You go with the public. The whole point is supposed to build public trust. Why is that under my clock? Use the TV clock in the second clock. Dude, he's like, no, be an idiot and use the secret super clock. Like literally, he's like, use your brain. That's why you haven't been replaced by a robot yet.

52:19And so, but the thing that happened today is now the big 10 referees association is asking, let me make sure it's the big 10, right? Put out a referee association, put out a statement. They want to overturn the result of the game, which I've never seen. And I don't know how to do the big 10th, the Mac. Oh, the Mac? Yes. So, oh, well, yeah, no wonder they want to do it. Was it not the big 10 referees agreeing with it? Not the big 10 itself to be clear. Well, I, the official statement was put out by the Mac saying, give us the goddamn win. Yeah. But I feel like they can't because it's like that's opening up Pandora's box. I think the voters should honestly just treat it like Michigan lost the game for the entire season. Voters should ignore the Michigan win and treat Michigan like they, they dropped out of the poll. Some people are. It's even the Michigan fans. I know we're like, yeah, that was, that was, that was bad. They're like, luckily, Michigan doesn't have any blemishes on the record in terms of fairness and following the rules and whatnot. There's nothing of that sort sort of like casting a poll over this whole situation.

53:22Is there a point? It was one of the most, no, I don't think so. I think there's been a clean nothing, nothing to note. It was one of the most egregious screw jobs I've seen in a long time. The other thing we have to mention is that the least out of Sheptors out here, fucking sweet about it. God, do it. These Michigan men just get a rose. Yeah, Sheptors, the Michigan. So the Michigan then stormed the field and the victory. And Stadhol, shout out Stadhol and Sports Reference, who actually put out a, this, I can't believe they had this. It was the worst storm field, storming of the field ever by Point Spread. Michigan was the fourth touch on favorite. No, saddest. It's storming of the field. The literal biggest favorite ever on record to storm the field after a win. The most pathetic storming of a field. Who basically was running like a technicality? It's all the Michigan lawyers running on the field. Did you guys see the initial statement from the Vig10 that was explaining why they overturned it? It's like the weirdest choice in font and back.

54:24It was like a black background with blue words over the top. This guy, Clue Hayward, was making fun of. He's like, what layout and fudge we use for this controversy? This looks like the opening credits of the movie Halloween from the 70s. This is 100% it's like from Stranger Things or something. This font? It's on the Mount Rook. It's with Dan Gilbert's Comic Sans letter after LeBron left in the papyrus from Avatar. I'm going to this letter. Papyrus. It's like, unbelievable. It's the least seriously I've ever seen. It was fucking use white background, black writing, and normal font. This episode is brought to you by Nationwide. Everyone knows that to win in fantasy, you need players that can be so much more. The QB that can throw for 400 yards and rush for a touchdown. The defense that can snag a pick six. Or the running back who can also bring in 15 receptions. It's like how Nationwide is so much more than a great insurance company. They're one of America's largest financial services companies too. Now that gets the start. For your insurance and financial needs, Nationwide is on your side. Nationwide Investment Services Corporation, member Finra Columbus, Ohio.

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56:26Let's do, we're going to purge, you want to be fantasy court then purge us? Well, yeah, fantasy court, we're bringing fantasy court back. Fantasy court? Fantasy courts back. Do we have an intro for fantasy court? We're going to update it for the season, but right now we'll do the old one for old time sick. Definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing. I don't really want to be handcuffed. The definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and touched. Can you touch a cloud? Oh, it will never not be funny that we're reading the dictionary definition of an object. We have to add when Craig said, to me, night is when it's dark. Night? To me? Is when it's dark. It's when it's dark. Okay, this is a fantasy court from, well, this one's from Redacted. Redacted, of course, yeah, our body. Eager anonymity. 23 years old, breakfast all over the place, but this morning was two Costco egg bites, two banana pudding Oreos, yogurt covered raisins, a liberty and justice for apple rain, which is the goat energy drink. I don't know what that is.

57:27What? I feel like I just got hit with a fire hose. A liberty and justice. What was it? Apple rain rain is within eat like a king. Apple rain, I don't liberty and justice for I don't know what that is. A rain is a drink. Rain is an energy drink. So it's a liberty and I don't know, man, I don't know what this energy liberty and justice for apples. It's a, that's an energy drink. It's a rain. I do, I do know that rain is an energy drink. Liberty, liberty and justice for apple is a limited edition, tart green apple flavored energy drink featuring 300 milligrams of caffeine and zero sugar. We should do an energy drink taste test this year. So that's basically fucking liquid nitrogen that you just guzzling down. That's insane. So Redacted writes 30 seconds before the draft, one of our league members text the group chat and says, hey, send the invite because I can't get into the draft because my account is on my other email and I have a new one. And then ever is like everyone just makes fun of him and flames him in the group chat. And the commissioners like, well, he's the commissioner and he's like, well, the draft started. So I can't do anything. And so the auto draft, he just auto drafts and then he looks at his team's like,

58:28yeah, fuck this and wants his money back. Oh, and everyone votes and it's like, obviously not. Sorry, you're an idiot. And so he sees that and it's like, all right, we'll screw you guys. I don't want to be in the league anyway. Keep the money. I don't care and like leaves the chat. I don't want to play. It's like, okay. So the commissioners like, yeah, soft. So the commissioners like, well, my wife is going to want to play fantasy. So she, my wife is like, do you want to take over the team? And she's like, yeah, and she's like, excited. And everyone kind of agrees that if she wins, people get their money back because she didn't pay anything. She's kind of paying on that guy's buy-in, which they all agreed to. And I'm like, I get it. That's fine because she didn't pay any money. So the catch is the guy texted the next day and is like, hey, I want to come back in. Screw it. I was being a little bitch. I want to come back in. And he says, what do I do? Oh, you say no. Easy. That's what I thought. Anyone who fucking threatens to leave the league and then does leave is like, all right, we're better off that. Bitch move. Yeah.

59:29Yeah. I mean, the fact that he didn't prepare until like the 10 minutes before the draft and the first, that's like, that's like strike one. Threatening to leave strike two, leaving strike three, trying to get back in strike four like this. You're just better off that it. I think screw this guy. But I would send him his money back though. Yeah, give them money back. Don't let him hold anything over. Yeah, I would just send him the money back. And then maybe your wife pays half price or something, but I would, yeah. Email us a ringer fantasy for a whole. It's tough though. Is he like in the group? Is this like a beloved friend in the group? Well, he left. I know. I guess I'm just like, I'm trying to be a little bit more diplomatic here. If this is like a beloved friend and he was having a bad season. It's Wednesday and on Monday, he's like, I don't want to be in the league and I quit. Like you have to replace him. Also, this guy like told your wife's in the league. Like, come on. No. DK, if it was one of your close friends who did this and was like, hey, DK, I'm sorry. I kind of come back in. I was being a dick at a bad day.

1:00:30Are you like fuck off? I'll never talk to you again. Or are you like, all right? I would probably be much more diplomatic about and say sorry. It's too late now. We already filled the position. I don't want I don't feel comfortable kicking this other person out. Per your earlier. No, we can go drink in later. I think I would say you can you can be back in next year. Sure. Yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah. If you're really you're on time. It depends on the person, of course. If there's a history of this, then I would probably just be like, we're better off without you. He's not allowed back in. Give him his money back. Maybe he's back next year. I think that's the answer. Yeah. Email us at ringerfansifopolegmail.com. And email us your fantasy courts. We will litigate. Remember last year or two years ago, someone dropped Marvin Harrison when they were drunk. And we were like, Yes. And then you know what, turn it up to be a great move. You never know what happened. So email us that accidentally drafting Brian Robinson and not Vijon Robinson. That happened. Someone texted me, shout out to Max. He texted me some genius in a Yahoo. The those auction those salary cap drafts nominated B. Robinson and Thalcon's went for 60 bucks.

1:01:31Dude, do you know what I'm gonna say to Vijon? I did an auction draft on Yahoo. A couple days ago. And Brian Robinson's like average price is like $19 because people fuck it up too much. Oh, that makes sense. What would you do in that situation? Like it's one of those, Hey, yeah, sorry, you got to click on the thing. But that's kind of a formatting error. Like what? Like if someone immediately starts in third season spend 70 bucks and B. Robinson. And they're like, screw it. Like it's a good bit. You probably have to keep it. But it is bullshit. No, I would give them their money back. Would you do that? Would you do that? That's okay. Yeah. I like the fact that you're not like holding anything above them or what? Full transparency. I just made a trade with Joe Fann in our Trader's Alley Dynasty League. And he was trying to trade for TETN on my team and was offering a lot for him. And I had to let him know that it was ETN's brother Trevor that he was inquiring about. You could have done it. Travis, I know. It's like that's bad faith. That's bad karma. Yeah, totally.

1:02:31There was this catcher on the Metz when we were in eighth grade named Jose A Reyes. And it said Jose A Reyes on the Metz. And Jose Reyes had like won the MVP. And this guy was in AA. And I flipped him for chase Sutley who then won the MVP. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, well, it's just a window into both of yours. I was 12. So you've been rotten since the start. Those people don't change. People don't forget. All right, you want to listen or take, Perch? Yeah. This is one of the favorite developments we've had all year is that we have the Discord channel. People throw in their purges. I've been amazed by the quality of them to be honest. And I'm so excited. It turns out that the purge should expand. We, everyone needs the purge. You get these thoughts off. I think it's had low expectations for all of you. It's becoming much like a movie. It's becoming a franchise. No, they were amazing. Dude, one of the purge, one of the listener purges from the draft was that the 2024 draft class. None of them will ever be as good as they were. They're rookie year, Jayden Gaines, Brian Thomas, Brock Bowers, like Malik neighbors,

1:03:31all these guys peaked in our, and I'm like, that's an amazing take. That's a good purge. I hope that's not right. Like, it's just good. Like, it's the take purges are good. So I want to go through some of these. And some of these I'm truly jealous of. So I might want to disavow. But so we're not going to quite do the sirens in the music. But like, that's the vibe. Like, you know, these are things. People try to get off their chest. This one is from X-Teen. With the CK X-Teen. Okay. E-E-Bone. X-Teen. Yes. Beigeon Robinson is going to be a huge bus this year. And Atlanta is going to go down and flames. The Falcons will be worse than the Cardinals. You know. Craven leaves this already. It's a good take. I'm actually, I'm already jealous that none of us, I feel like we talked so much shit about the quarterback situation in Atlanta. We're so nervous about to. We didn't mention. None of us had the stones to be like, maybe Beigeon shouldn't be the second pick in the draft. Damn. My brother was trying to talk to me about this over Labor Day weekend. He's like, so you think the Falcons are going to be terrible and you think Tuas is going to be bad.

1:04:32And Penix is like as big of a risk to get hurt as anybody. I was like, yeah. So why do you guys have Beigeon at number two? And I was like, well, because he's really good. He's like, isn't that stupid? And I'm quite possibly. And he's like, who do you want me to take it to? I'm like, Beigeon. He's like, but that doesn't make sense. And I was like, take Jamar Chase then. He's like, I don't want to take a receiver. I want to take a running back. The beauty of doing the take project at this point in the season is like, when you think about it and you try to put yourself in your shoes, you know, whatever four or five months from now and thinking about what went wrong in the season, this makes so much sense to me. Like, I'm like, oh, obviously the Falcons are offenses going to be disaster. Why do we have Beigeon second? We literally have like, as a tattoo, like, taken to account overall environment. And like, it's why we had, yeah, it's the number one. But it's going to be like, something there. Maybe I'm still taking Beigeon second, though, probably. This one I'm jealous of. Gene's take purge is that the browns are starting to show on Watson to begin the season with the hopes that he gets injured so that the insurance will cover his cell.

1:05:33Oh, okay. They're literally throwing him to the world. I mean, it's good. There's something there. It's it's it's bounty gate, but like reverse. Yeah, right. It's their own guy. Can we hurt our own guy? It's for those who don't know, if you take out an insurance policy on a player and they get into the game. They miss the injury. You get a cap credit the next year, which is how the browns have survived this thing. They're jets that are the jets. I think that it with Rogers. This is a good theory. Hi, Fitz, is this like, you know, you're take about the chiefs in my homes and Josh Simmons who is it? Yeah, Justin is tossing the defensive. It's just like how they are practicing all preseason. It's like the just we're just a here guy into the corner of X legs. Shepter tweets. It's like the browns have traded for Josh Simmons. God, that's a great take from Gene. Gene. Gene. Gene. Parmesan. Gene. This one's from Allison.

1:06:34Allison. A bone. Many of the NFL players who get in trouble for speeding come from Texas, especially Dallas, because in Dallas, our driving etiquette is to treat the highway speed limit as the minimum. Huh? It's just they're just built different. You know what? Landman everyone's driving really fast in Texas. It's like culturally 75. It's like don't go below 75 on the highway. This is how I felt when I went to Florida. Yes. And people in Florida are insane. Allison is saying Miles Garrett who is the nine tickets for she writes all these people learned to drive in Texas and then they move to other places and then it's driving. It's driving Texas for one day and you're like, oh my god, this place is terrifying. I got to go. I was unaware of this. This is a good take. It's a good take. I went down a deep dive and I'm like most of the people with speeding issues are Texas or obviously Georgia. So in Dallas, they're just like, yes, be limited. Don't really don't really worry about that. It's a guy. You have to worry about it. Don't go below it. What's the parts of the care being lined about the rules? It's like, what is it?

1:07:35The pirates code's more like guidelines. Allison said that there have been times she's been going 20 over and been passed like she was going 20 under. People just rip it in a router. So all right, this take purchase from, I don't know how to say this, Daphne's rock. I don't know. Demon. They're discord user names. Daphne's rock says, fantasy football was more fun 15 years ago when the majority of people were just taking their favorite players instead of treating it like the stock market and doing all this analysis. Back in the day, if you just showed up talking about maximizing value and taking calculated risks, you'd be shoved in a locker or talking about your portfolio. Yeah, this is essentially private equity ruin fantasy football. It's like how private equity is ruined, everything. It's like now the Lakers are an asset to flip. And like a movie studio is like a balance sheet now than taking creative risks. Yeah, this is a good take. There is a pretty strong, whatever the middle circle and event diagram is of like Bitcoin bros and fantasy players.

1:08:39There's a lot of overlap there, I feel like. Yeah, I know. I mean, people literally talk about fantasy players, they'll say like I have a lot of shares of DJ more. Totally. I kind of like this take. It's a great take. Michael Lewis should write a book about it. I have some non-football take pergis here. I want to hear I want to hear the lead of day. Yeah, yeah, I like these. Okay. ACZ says Citronella candles attract more mosquitoes which gets you to buy more candles. That's like a pyramid scheme. Dude. Yeah, I would love, I mean, email us if you actually know how to prevent mosquitoes from nipping at your heels because I can't do it. Brandon says Christopher Nolan is lying about not having a smartphone. Oh, that's good. It's just perform it. It's like Tarantino same way. Yeah, it's just performative. It's cool to not have one, you know. I'm unreachable, but if I call you answered. Christopher Nolan just had payphones all over the city.

1:09:40I just have him. He's got a pocket full of quarters. Ludes says that Craig is not the hottest person on the pod, and I'm tired of pretending he is. This is just, this is trying to strike a wedge between the three of us. We've already established the hierarchy here. And we can't, we can't unseat the balance. I want to know who the answer is. So I want to see YouTube battle over the throne. That could be only one. I saw Highlander. It was shit. DK comes back on the next episode with giant veneers. Oh, we're getting, we're getting hair plugs and veneers. Start to go fun me. DK is going to record the season from Turkey. That was the only thing he'd answer. It was if we sent him to Turkey, he was like, yeah, I'd go. He's like, yeah. Okay. Thank you to everyone who did the take purge. Thank you for emailing your purges. Email us at reoffensivephobaltgemail.com. Email us your fantasy courts. Email we want fantasy court cases.

1:10:42We want, where do the things we want? Tell me how to prevent mosquitoes. How to prevent mosquitoes. And trivia questions. We want trivia questions on Monday. Wavres, we do trivia is to kind of do the tiebreaker. The trivia questions have to have like a numerical answer. Closest to the pin style. So just that way, for wrong, we can be wrong by an amount. So at least an amount has to be if we're wrong. If we're wrong, we won't be able to. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Nick Hill. Thank you to Cam. Thank you to Austin. And thank you to everyone for listening. Thank you to everyone who email you take purges. Thank you to the seven for doing the hot quarterback rankings. FantasyFootball.theRear.com. We will have our rankings this week. So if you want to do start sit rankings, we'll have that for you for the weekend. And thank you to everyone who's listening to us for the whole off season and preseason and the seasons here. So now we're going to actually talk about football games that happened. So most of all though, thank you Lord. Lord. Lord. Eight months. Continued. Continued. You have one DK?

1:11:43I got one if you want. Yeah, hit me. Hit me. One of my favorites. It is a real classic Motley crew home sweet home. Oh, Mama way. Oh, Banger. Mama way. Oh, sweet home. I love a good, I love the 80s man. They just like the, like the ballad, the true ballad is just like so glorious. Feels like I'm going on a real journey every time I hear this song. It reminds me also of hot tub time machine. Oh, sure. So just a great song. No offense. I didn't really know what song you were talking about when you guys were singing, but I pulled it up and now now yes. You really got to hit some, some high bars to be able to sing that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this video is also just one of the most 80s things I've ever seen. It looks exactly like I thought it would look. Motley crew, first of all, great name. Sure. With the two little umlots over the oh and the you. Yeah, why is that?

1:12:44I don't know. Not sure. I feel like they were, I feel like that was how I was how I when I did that. Hell, Ricky, I don't know. They just woke up and someone included it. They're like, sure. Do you think they would have had the same career without the umlots without the little dots? No, like that made them stand out. I think they wouldn't have. Should we do that on our show? Ring or fantasy? Maybe. We have the dots. Did Molly crew have Nikki six? Yeah, basis Nikki six. Tommy Lee was. Of course, yeah. The drummer. He married Pamela Anderson. I know from that. I'm not learning he's from this. Yeah. I think if I had to if I had to bet which band did the most drugs, Motley crew would be among my top five picks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're up there. What do I not know? You do Nikki six. Tommy Lee was married to frickin' Heather Locklear too. Man, he's like Billy Bob Thornton. Sky.

1:13:45Nikki 63. Nikki six. I almost said Nikki six. Hi, if it's Nikki six was uh, addicted to heroin. Oh, that's so. Can I ask you a question? Where did the where did the term Motley crew come from? Was that before was like a group of Mangy kids of Motley crew before Motley crew became a band? I imagine. Or now are they Motley crew when you see like some kids. Now I think it's like it's five o'clock somewhere. It was a saying that then like Jimmy Buffett was like I'm going to build a song around it and make it. I think Motley crew existed as a phrase, right? I don't know. Hi, if it's you now. You and Jack you have that like list of phrases that people only use for one specific thing like. Oh, yeah. No one I feel like Motley is only used with crew. I've never heard Motley used outside of Motley crew. Also, I'm seeing Motley crew is very old from the 17th and 18th centuries. Maybe Motley bunch, but Motley is mostly with crew. And for people who've known him and told about there are certain words

1:14:46that just immediately it's only for phrase. My favorite one being Spangled. The band star Spangled banner. What does that even mean? Spangled. Spangled. What does that word even mean? I mean, yeah. Splashed. Decorated or sprinkled with small shiny objects or lights. But I need some cupcakes. They're spangled. Look at me like I was crazy. There are certain words where I'm like, why did we don't need a word for that? We don't need a word for decorate with small shiny lights. I don't know. I feel the same way. So many words says Craig. Well, you know what word I think truly does not need to exist and I don't know why it does. And I've always felt this way. This is so random is to penetrate. Which is to throw someone out of a window. Why is that a word? Why aren't they going for it? Why aren't they going for it? They're saying to throw someone out a window. Okay, but why aren't there words for throw someone off a roof? Why is there a word for that? There might be. I don't think so. There's a German word called.

1:15:47Because it's like there's this thing like the defenestration of proc and they're like, oh, what they do? They burn the city down. They're like, no, they just threw this guy out of window. Like, we'll just say that then. What is your word for that? Just say that. That's a complicated word. It throws somebody out of a window. That's why we like the old German words. Because they're just smashing it together. Like when you're sad and when you eat, the words just grief-baking. Just do that. Anyway, that's my beef with defenestrate. The Craig, there is no official standard English word for throwing someone off a roof. Though some people use a word called detect, detect humation. Which I'm just like throwing people out of windows and it's not common enough to justify a word for it. There's so many other actions that I feel like are just as common if not more common. I want to ask you an important question, DK. The Tommy Lee thing, the Tommy Lee Pamela Anderson thing. I feel like I heard a lot about this as a kid, but just hearing about it. But I didn't know the main text. I just, everything I learned with the Tommy Lee Pam Anderson

1:16:47sextape was just like jokes. So like, whose line is it anyway? And like jokes from like Jay Leno. But where you like, like, are you like a kid trying to find this in the woods? Are you asking if I've seen it? All right, can you ask me a direct question? All right, I'll ask, I'll just ask it, DK. Yes. Who's gonna win the Super Bowl? Goodbye, everyone. he?

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