Remembering 9/11 25 Years Later (09/11)

0:00This is an I Heart podcast guaranteed human. Can't find am 640 you're listening to the John Cobalt podcast on the I Heart radio. Can't find am 640 more stimulating talk radio. It's the John Cobalt show. We're on every day from three until six and then afterwards at six o'clock. We released the podcast John Cobalt show on demand. And you can hear what you missed. We're live streaming live on YouTube live on X as always. And you can subscribe, become a member by going to YouTube.com slash at John Cobalt show and Fridays at five special hour, two rounds of the moist line coming up at five 20 and 550. I'll play some audio clips. We talked a lot about what it was like here at the station on the morning of 9 11 in 2001. And that you could listen to our one of the podcasts for all the details, but the short version is I got awakened at six in the morning.

1:01After the second plane hit the program director at the time David Hall called me up. It said, two planes have hit the World Trade Center. I was just such a befuddled fog waking up. I didn't really know what that meant. And eventually we went on the air at noon until six after handle had done six hours of the planes had crashed into the towers during his program. And he stayed on and did rush limbaugh show as well across the country because rush was stuck on a plane somewhere. Now I just want to play one clip that we played played earlier. And this is from our very first segment on September 11th, shortly after 12 noon, where I'm recounting the timeline as best as we could tell from that morning. So play cup three first plane. The first plane hit the World Trade Center at 845 Eastern, the second plane at 903. And then the first tower collapse was at around 10 o'clock, second tower collapse at around 1030. And so they people had

2:11anywhere from an hour to an hour and a half to get out of the building on the floors below where the planes impacted on the towers. You know, one of the planes looked like it hit at about the 60th floor. So you can assume that people below the 60th floor, if they weren't killed by the plane crash and the fire on the smoke, some of them would have been able to get out. And then the other tower was hit way high up. And you know, it's impossible to count how many people got out and how many people are lying dead in the rubble. I saw the most, I mean, a couple of pieces of amazing video in all the little clips that I've been watching this morning. You've probably heard about or maybe seen the people clinging to the building, hanging out of the building. Yeah, I saw that too. It was jumping right before the building. How many fours up do you think they looked? I don't know. I don't know. Look to hide a survive from what I could see. But

3:11this second piece of video that really got me was a camera was positioned on the sidewalk on one of the downtown streets. And it was just recording video of, you know, people running around some chaos. And then the World Trade Center collapses at the far end of the block. And all this smoke and ash and dirt come barreling down. No, like a ball. The carter. Yeah. And people were running away running away. And the cameraman takes his hand and he wipes the lens. The lens. Yeah. And everything is getting browner and browner. And eventually everything goes to black. There was so much debris and smoke that the whole carter, the whole block just turned black. And you couldn't see a thing. I look like night. So that was the real time description of what we had been seeing on television. And speaking of television, let's play cut seven here first. This is me

4:18describing I was home watching television when the tower disappeared on my screen. And I couldn't figure out what was going on. The strangest moment watching on television this morning was I was watching, I happened to be watching Peter Jennings coverage on channel seven. And he's talking to some expert about something. And I'm white, but they kept the video on. And I was suddenly I saw one of the towers disappear, collapsed in front of me. And I'm staring at it. And I'm not believing what I and nobody is referring to it on TV because I'm assuming these guys are looking at each other and they're not looking at the screen. And maybe all the producers are standing with their mouths open. But it seemed like for about 10 seconds or 15, I start changing the channel and the towers missing on all the other channels as well. And and I'm thinking it's gone, isn't it? And I took a while before they confirmed it. Now this we have a friend, my wife and I we have a friend, Fran Zorinsky, who still lives in New York City was there that day. And we talked to her on the

5:20phone. And this is what she described. Cut six. All right. We're all calling people we know in New York City to see if we can get any information what's going on. And friend of mine, Fran Zorinsky is in New York and on the line right now, Fran. Hey John, how you doing? I'm fine. How are you? I walk like everybody else. Everybody's walking in this city. You're so you're outside walking in the streets now. Yeah, because that's how everybody's getting around. I've never seen so many people walking. Well, what? This is Ken here. What part in New York City are you in right now? I'm up kind of actually going to the New York blood center to get blood. This is a blood shortage. How far is this plume of soot and debris and smoke? How far is it traveled uptown? Do you know? I'm sorry. The debris and the soot and all the ash we're seeing. How far is it traveled uptown? Do you know? Some hit a town at all. No, it's all the way just downtown area. Hello? Yeah, we're having trouble. I guess with a connection on the cell phone lines. The phone lines

6:20are terrible. We can get out, but I hear people can't call in. We've a lot of people have been trying to call New York all morning and hardly anybody can get through. It's impossible. Cell phones are just outrageous. Tap the TV stations aren't can't even broadcast from here because their signal is from the World Trade Center. That's right. A lot of antennas were on the top of the World Trade Center, so they're knocked out. As a matter of fact, ABC, the local WABC TV was running off the NJN channel this morning. We're casting live. Right. They were using their feed because they're knocked out. The local Fox channel was knocked out. I think a UPN WB. What's the mood in the streets? People just walk and kind of say it because we really don't know what the end of the fact is just devastate because just your life is going to change totally. Things that we took for granted before. We're going to be always nervous and it's just I think it really hasn't hit yet. I think people are just walking around and shocked. The people believe it's over. I'm sorry.

7:22Do people believe it's over? What can't you hear my microphone? I don't understand. I think it's just the phone connection. Oh, all right. Can you hear us, Brandon? Okay, I think we lost the connection. The two times I asked a question she couldn't hear me. She was hearing me. It was something about something about my mic or something. It's something about your voice, I think. Oh, Ken. That's the part I missed. Oh, that was great. All right. Go one more clip to play that we haven't played yet. And that's Ken remembering working in the World Trade Center. I'd forgotten that. And I had a story about a glamorous double date I went on to Windows on the world on the top floor. Of course, when I was about 20, not now. Now let me play it. We come back and we'll do that. We'll do the moist line and then more stuff. Debra Mark. Ken entertains you. He's still.

8:24That's the reception you got from him. He used to call me little Debbie. He, you know, he, I think he loved me and didn't love me. Right. I think it was a love hate relationship. Yeah. I think he really did like me. Yeah, I did. He did. But you drive people crazy. You know that. I don't know why. Well, I'll tell you one day. Yeah. Debra Mark, live in the KFI 24 hour newsroom. Thanks, John. I thought you were my friend. You're listening to John Cobalt on demand from KFI AM640. KFI AM640 more stimulating talk radio. John Cobalt show moist line around one coming up in minutes. I got one more clip that we have yet to play. And I want to thank Eric Sklar for finding this. It really surprised me. Both. Thank Clay Rowe for saving all of it. Clay Rowe saved an incredible archive of a lot of our programs that I didn't even realize we had. And you quickly went through the 9 11 day and picked out all gems,

9:29all gems today. So here's the last one that we haven't played yet. And this is us remembering the World Trade Center. We both grew up obviously in the New York City area. And the World Trade Center was a really big deal because it was the tallest double building. Empire State Building was far more attractive looking. And he used to work there. And I went on a luxury dinner there once. So listen to this clip of our remembrances. And of course, from 1979 to 1985, I worked in that building. So there you go. It's getting nearer because the World Trade Center tower. The Earthquake. What's up with Ken? The earthquake damaged his old apartment building in Westwood on Sunday. And now his old workplace has been blown a bit. I'm going to go to one of the offices down the hall. Yeah, I'm away from Ken. Well, somebody will hit this. The years behind me. So relax. It haven't caught up to me. In 10 years, somebody will bomb this place. But I can tell you from being we're on the floors 99, 100 and 101 of one World Trade Center. And he watched those planes go by at eye level. It's kind of interesting. I never sat there and dreamed to come right at me.

10:30It must have come up in conversation, though. We used to think a lot about the building shaking during storms because it had a little giveaway. So it's ways. But what I did talk to people about, and this is something you and I would talk about off the air, if we had to evacuate because we used to think about fires. And I, you know, I'm the pessimist. I thought, you're not going to go these people out of here. From the 1990s, 4 to the 100th floor in time for a fire in the panic that's going to ensue. And everybody got in the stairwell, it's going to be holy hell. And I said, I hope I'm not here. If it happens, unfortunately, that job I was out in the field a lot. I wasn't actually at the office as much. But that, you know, first of all, you got to take an express elevator to get up there. And you can see the thing shaking. Wush. And it's like, this is beautiful. And the view is great. But you don't want to be a, you don't want to be above a fire. That's, that's really right. No, then they have to get you by ladder and by from the roof. The, this is also the World Trade Center down below is a major transportation center for New York City. Yeah. It's a major subway. Major subway stop for six lines. The path train is the main compute, a main commuter line between New Jersey and New York.

11:32There's 500 international companies in the World Trade Center. There's an underground shopping center. There's a collection of restaurants on the hundred and seventh floor windows on the world. I remember going there 20 years ago on a double date. We rented out a limousine. This was our big night out. And we went out to the top of the World Trade Center windows on the world. They have dinner. It's a spectacular. Yeah. No, we had several parties there with the firm and it's all gone. Yeah, that was a, that was a beautiful restaurant. In fact, there's a 40 minute film that CNN ran the other night. I think on Labor Day night and now you have to watch it. You have to go to the streaming service. But it's a film on the windows on the world restaurant. It was the highest grossing restaurant in New York City at the time when it got hit. And it was being a hundred and seven floors up and having dinner. And you just, you just felt like you were royalty up there. It was, it was great. And you have to take this high speed elevator at the top.

12:35We come back. Oh, you're not going to tell you a story. We had to do the Moist line, right? Do the Moist line now? And I want to tell you a story about a guy who was a friend of my in-laws down in Florida. And we had him on the air that week. He was in the World Trade Center when the planes hit. And he made serious decisions because he easily could have died. But he got away. And it was one good decision after another. Years later, I read a book on how to survive some kind of disaster. And the book detailed exactly what this guy had done on his own. It's because it may have a stupid things people do when they panic. We'll talk about that coming up. Oh, let's do the Moist line. Let's roll here. Hey, it's John. Thanks for calling the Moist line. I'm so excited to hear from you. It's about time. I'm just wondering about this. Um, Governor Newsom had stated back in the election about the break the glass plan. I mean, I never heard any follow-up on that.

13:36I mean, what was it? Um, did they have to use it? I have a feeling he forgot he was talking to the press when he accidentally used that phrase. The panel on loneliness, they caused it from the whole Scandinemic shutdown. Let's make more homeless so we can have a homeless industrial complex. Let's make more loneliness so we can have programs to help combat loneliness. Idiot. If one of the two Kennedys for mayor were to drop out for any reason, the Spencer Pratt simply step up. This is just a testimony of the kind of people it serves jurors. You know why Nithia, Raman and Karen Bass are running against each other because whichever one wins, they made a deal even before the voting started that whichever one wins, they're just going to continue the same old crap, you know? So they're not, if one says bad about the other, they're just screwing around. You know, ain't nothing going to change. We need to uh, strike down that tire law they're trying to push on instead of going in the

14:39effect. Whatever it is, it sounds like a load of crap. We have to figure out a way to strike that down. They can move the deer, they don't have to kill them. We do a lot more difficult things than moving the 200 deer. I don't understand what the need to kill them is. Just get them off the island that will solve the problem. Yeah, talking about the Bacera and the incredible missing man, it's kind of odd, isn't it? It's almost like they know they don't have to try because they're just going to win with regards of anything that you say or do. It's really strange to me, it's surreal. It's the Attorney General that could investigate all the fraud, the $24 billion missing from the homeless money here in LA. We have such a terrible Attorney General. He doesn't care about exposing this. Hey, instead of uh, the committee that calls Bacera to testify, maybe they should have called her up and told her it was all sped up. The committee tripped for a ceremony. I bet she she would have gone for that.

15:39She's already gone to two in fire's broke out. I bet she she would have went for that one. The seller drinks and the dancer involved. That defense attorney for Lindsay Clancy should be despised for going around to the media and criticizing that low and juror hold out. Karen Bacera is now in panic mode. She thinks that suddenly this associating here stilt herself from wassa will eliminate any half of a conflict of interest. That train has already left the station where you left out your baggage. You're done. Everyone in Orange County knows that Santa Ana has trouble. Good for that mayor. They're doing something about it. There are so many families that live in Santa Ana. There's so many people that care about that city. So maybe we need more of that in LA. This mayor of Santa Ana is wonderful. John, I just want to tell you that it's 90 degrees. It's 9 p.m. Everybody is miserable. It's horrible. Well, this is it. We've reached the end. The end of civilization. It's a group of women defending a mother who murdered her children.

16:43The most precious relationship in the world. And a defending heart. Ruggling them and called blood. You know, Rhode Island, congratulations. I'm really glad it worked for you. It should have worked for us recalling new skim. Checking in from Texas here. You guys were talking about vehicle registration fees. I can confirm to register my truck costs me 75 bucks every year. In California, I'm sure this thing would cost me at least 500 bucks. Enjoy California. Oh my god, John. I was sick to my stomach on Wednesday night on the news. Because they had that fire and the support of the past by the Getty Museum. And Karen Bass is there in front of the camera saying, we were here. We were prepared. We knew something like this might happen. And we just really got it out of the step. Can you believe the nerve of that ridiculous piece of coming out like that after what she did to the power states? Thank you for leaving me. I missed that one. No. Goodbye. All right.

17:44Round two coming up. And just about 20 minutes. You're listening to John Cobalt on demand from KFI AM640. More stimulating talk radio. John Cobalt show. Ron three to six after six. John Cobalt show on demand on the I hard app. We're live on YouTube live on X. We've been doing a lot of remembrances of 9 11. What went on here at the station and playing some clips from that time. And also in the first hour, we did a lot on. You know, why 9 11 happened? And not only Al Qaeda, attacking us with the planes, but the Bush administration knowing for months that something really bad was going to happen involving planes and Bush and his cabinet ignoring the threat that the CIA director and others in the CIA were insisting was going to happen. They knew for months. And while there've been reports confirming a lot of this. He's just never he's never owned up to it.

18:47At all, which and neither Clinton too. The warnings go back to the Clinton days. So we discussed that in great detail in that first hour. Oh, you know, I just getting stuff flying back in my head. I knew one guy who died in the in the 9 11 tower. He used to move my friend in grammar school. And I didn't see him after eighth grade. After we graduated because we went to different high schools. But I remember looking on the list of victims. And there he was. He'd gotten into the finance industry. And I think he was working on the 105th floor or something like that. And that was strange. Because I like, I remember that kid really well from when we were 13 years old. And I didn't hear about him again until. He died. I guess about 28 years later. Yeah. They was Steven Steven Schlag. I think he was a little bit more than I thought. Yeah. They was Steven Steven Schlag. And then there was another Steve Steve dollquist who was a friend of my in laws down in Florida.

19:49And when this happened, my in laws called us and said, well, Steve, who lived down the block was there in the World Trade Center. And he came on the air with us for a whole hour. It was fascinating. He was there. He was in the financial industry. And he was going to attend a meeting. And he was going to attend a meeting with the con course on the bottom. It's actually underground. And that's where they have all the shops and the restaurants. And I think he was stopping to get coffee and suddenly heard a big felt a big rumble. It sounded like it felt the way we feel earthquakes. That's when the plane had struck. And he didn't know what happened. But then people started running. And he did the smartest thing is he walked out. The front of the World Trade Center didn't look up. A lot of people were running towards the trade center. And he decided to walk away. Don't turn around. Don't look up. And he just kept walking.

20:49And he walked to the edge of the Hudson River and found a war if and took a ferry across the Hudson River. And he walked to Newark. Because Newark Airport is not far from New York City. You take the ferry and you can walk. And he walked to Newark Airport and rented a car and drove down to Sarasota, Florida. And he just recounted every decision he made. And he just decided every step I'm going to take. I'm going to walk away. I'm going to walk away. Don't look up. Don't look back. Don't take any detours. Don't let curiosity get the best of you. He didn't know what happened. He had no idea. Until he got in the car, I think, and turned on the radio. He didn't know two planes at hit. He didn't know 3,000 people were dead inside. He just kept getting away from the noise. And years later, the friend of mine gave me an audiobook. And it was about how to survive disasters. And that was one of the chapters is, keep walking away.

21:50This is like true when anything is bad. Bad is happening in life. Walk away. Get out of it. Keep walking. Don't look back. If there's anything that's going to harm you. And I remember seeing, and I've seen this in so many news stories, when something ridiculous is going on, people run and see. They do it now. They run and see what their phones they want to get video. It's like, hey, wait a second. They're shots being fired. Here, there's criminals and police. What are you doing? It's like they're stupid. The street takeovers. Yeah. Same thing. People are running towards the cars. And I saw this awful video a couple of weeks ago of a young man and a girl getting hit by a car. Street takeover. Guys doing donuts in the intersection. Got out of control and hit the two of them. And it was really gruesome. I'm not going to even describe what I saw. It's like, what do you want to do? People do stupid, freaking things. And something bad is happening. Get out. And he just stuck in my mind.

22:50And then read the book. I thought, you know, if I'm in here in LA, right? No, it's good advice. Oh, yeah. For earthquakes and floods, riots. Any day things can go to hell here in Los Angeles. So there's an earthquake. And then I'm going to get out. And then I'm going to get out. And then I'm going to get out. And then I'm going to get out. And then I'm going to get out. And then I'm going to get out. And then I'm going to get out. And then I'm going to get out. And then I'm going to get out. And then I'm going to get out. And then I'm going to go to hell here in Los Angeles. So if there's an earthquake here, I'm just going to get out. John, I'm not going to look at you. I'm not going to waste my time doing any news on. I'm going to say who's going to do the news. I'm going to just going to get out. Well, you're going to survive. You know, I'm putting it out there right now. Getting out. All right. Debra's not giving you the news. No. Debra's about Deborah first here. You just gave me this great advice. But why? I don't. I shouldn't use it. No, I do it too. I told you, but they were talking about sending me to New York, the day of 9-11. It's like, I'm going there. Crazy. I get stuck with the guys with the violins on the Titanic.

23:50Oh, a bandage ship is a good idea. We'll run it. We'll run out together. So that way, we'll both be in trouble. You won't be talking and I won't be talking. You're going to hold the door at the elevator for me. You're going to. No, I'm going to keep going. Yeah, there you go. All right. All right. All right. Let's see the paper towel fly behind you. All right. We have more coming up round two than Weissline next. You're listening to John Cobalt on demand from KFI AM640. Can't buy AM640. More stimulating talk radio. The John Cobalt show. And about about 2015, 20 minutes, you can hear the podcast. We did a lot of coverage of the 9-11 remembrance today. And we went to the background, all the warnings that George Bush got about the Alcata attacks for months in advance and Clinton got a warning years in advance and Clinton and Bush both did nothing.

24:57And so did most members of his administration, the CIA knew the CIA had had it down and nobody would listen. So we did a lot on that. We played a lot of clips from our broadcast on 9-11. And you can hear that on the podcast, especially the first hour. And we did did some more stuff this hour as well. Before we get to the Moistline, one story. You know, here is an idiot lawyer for you. His name is Stephen Arons. This is in New Mexico. He's a defense lawyer. He's been in practice 40 years. And he tried to use chat GPT to summarize the details of the trial. This was on an appeal. His client was a guy named Oscar Sandivall. Oscar Sandivall murdered the mother of his kids. And he was convicted.

25:57And now the lawyer wanted to appeal the verdict. So he put together a summary of Oscar's trial. And he used chat GPT. And apparently there's something called hallucinating. I don't know exactly how this works, but chat GPT can hallucinate facts that don't exist. And so when he asked for a summary of the trial, he got things that didn't happen. Well, the prosecutors and the judge figured it out. If this was an accident, if this is not something he did on purpose. And at a hearing recently, the judge just couldn't believe that he didn't know this was a possibility. The Justice Shennon Bacon said, do you watch the news? Do you listen to the radio? Do you read anything about what's going on in the world? And he's now being referred to a disciplinary board.

26:59And he's in a lot of trouble because you can't go before a judge and give a dissertation on what happened in the trial. And half of it's made up. It's fake. And then say, oh, well, the AI must have hallucinated. Sorry about that. The Supreme Court said the lawyer demonstrated a lack of remorse and a lack of concern for his client. They're saying the client got screwed here because this lawyer took a shortcut and tried to use chat GPT. Well, all right, we got another round of the moist line here round number two. And John, thanks for calling the moist line. I'm so excited to hear from you. It's about time. It's easy to tell where all the money went. She gave it to the all the illegal. September 11, 2001, 2,753 souls. Remember that number. 2,753 souls because of an ideology.

28:05Always remember, never forget. Going through the real valley, Paris and stuff. It just builds all kinds of giant, huge, two-tap warehouse buildings. You know, build a min, build a women's, you know, a million square foot. You know, like, it's not even that big. And with showers and cons, there we go. Peace out. Do what you want. Settad is also in the middle of the urban jungle that is Southern California. So they're not getting 30,000 people's worth of homeless. They're getting all the homeless just like they wait. And my problem here is I'm just so pissed off about everything. I don't know where and how they even begin. But now this whole thing with bass takes it to a new level. These people, they just don't respect authority at all. It's really sad. The difference between the mayor of Los Angeles and the mayor of Santa Ana. Santa Ana mayor is meeting with local community leaders. Mayor of Los Angeles meeting with local community activists. And she's an activist.

29:06And that's why if you can't do anything else, I don't know why people are surprised. I don't know why we keep voting activists in public offices. They don't know how to do anything. Listen, I know a lot of people are really worried about these democratic socialists that want to kind of tear down the country. Listen, it's no worry at all. Because as soon as they raise their hand and swear to protect the Constitution, against enemies formed in the domestic, they'll change their ways. I never really understood the point in generating a whole new word by an act. There's Latino and Latina. And if you wanted a gender neutral one, isn't that just Latin? How many bucks for a bunch of different things? A bunch of different goods in a book? Basically, we're trading the old common, the Harris word salad for the nephew, Romain word salad to say. What an exchange. Just to add to the services that mayor passed by on all the sidewalks that are messed up with people tripping fall, they turn around and sue the city for a bunch of money. Which actually makes it a double hit to the city.

30:08Everybody thinks about that part. So I left to Southern California last year, but let me see if I get this straight. It's hot in Southern California during August and September. Really? Geez. That's interesting. I'm listening to this ridiculous talk about chronic marijuana users having some type of a psychosis. That is totally ridiculous. I have never heard such a thing. I have been smoking for over 50 years. I have never had any of those problems. This world is just always looking for something. Have you noticed how Gavin, the starting witness here, get a lot grater in the front? I think he wants to look like old Joe Biden, his hero, when he finally announces he's running for president. Thank you for leaving your message. Please hang up. Good. I think he's dying his hair for a long time. Now it's time to look like a wise older statesman. Yeah, that's his new persona.

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