Rubio Goes After the Narco-Terrorists + Roger Stone on the Midterms & Russia Collusion - Sept 9 Hr 2

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1:00Where some see heroes and other see egos. Bloomberg sees the era of billionaire athletes. A fad to some. The future of money to others. We see crypto's trillion dollar swings. The end of jobs. Or the end of human struggle. We see the endless funds fueling the AI hype. While others follow the noise. We follow the money. Learn more at bloomberg.com. This is the Joe Pag show to talk to Joe. Call 888-941-Pag. And now it's Joe Pags. Great radio stations all over from San Antonio along with Sam. And hello, it is the Joe Pag show. Appreciate you stopping by. Appreciate you taking the time. We're about to be part one with Roger Stone, part two next hour.

2:02We break down this hour. The mid-term elections. What he thinks is going to happen. He's actually very optimistic. He thinks that the Republicans can do better than a lot of people are predicting. I'm not as clear on it as he is. But we have a great conversation about that. The next hour is going to be more about that. And then we'll get into Russia collusion. Why the media is still lying about the Russia probe. I mean, obviously, because the DNI, the then DNI, Tulsi Gabbard, released all this information showing that they agreed that Russia did not interfere with the 2016 election. Then all of a sudden, there was a meeting that Obama called and they all started pushing this narrative that there was Russia collusion. Then the whole dossier garbage and all that. So we're going to get into that and then some with Roger Stone do not miss a second of that. Marco Rubio, our Secretary of State, is over in Ecuador. And he's not pulling any punches. He's a little tired of people asking if he's going to keep on going after the drug cart. He's going to keep on doing, I guess the blowing up of the boats off the coast in the

3:05ocean. He's going to keep on going after the drug cartels themselves. He calls out Claudia Shimbomb, who is the president of Mexico by name. He's not pulling back at all. This is from Newsmax. Rubio pushes anti-drug fight in Ecuador. Secretary of State Marco Rubio visited Ecuador Wednesday today to press the fight against Narco terrorists who have transformed the country into one of Latin America's most violent. Rubio visited Cuido or Quido as the second stop in a three nation tour designed to shore up a conservative allies in Colombia, Ecuador and Peru. And bolster US influence across the region during the trip. He announced the designation of Ecuador's lost Tigorones gang as a terrorist organization escalating Washington's campaign against powerful crime groups. Bottom line is he's not going to stop going after the bad guys. And what bothers me is because some are realist. I know that our alphabet agencies back in the day set up a lot of this drug trafficking stuff so that they could get in there and you know drugs for this and then arms for hostages and everything else.

4:06And now we're paying the price. But thankfully I think that we're right-minded on all of this now. And we'll start getting rid of all this incursion of deadly drugs. We've got more people than not OD on fentanyl, they're being poisoned by fentanyl. You just die. I mean people just die. And it's to the two to tens of thousands every year. Why can't we do something? The argument always is, well, they wouldn't be able to produce it if there wasn't such a hunger forward here. There's a desire for the drugs here in the United States. That's why this whole deal is so big. That's BS. If it's not available and you can't get it, well then we won't have such a desire for it anymore. And if anybody who's hooked on drugs instead of getting them needles at City Hall, you can maybe give them some rehab and get them back on track. Here's some what Rubio had to say in Ecuador today. The government's, for example, Ecuador is going to get attacked by left wing groups that have ties to terrorists. These groups, you know the brutal, the real human rights violations happening in this part of the world is on behalf of narco terrorists and this web of narco terrorists who

5:07like they cut people's heads off. They decapitate people. They go through and they extort people. Like small vendors in these towns and these cities and these countries, these vendors that used to happen. And El Salvador, you couldn't even run a small coffee shop. They come in and extort you from money or they kill your children. These are the real human rights violators. These are the real terrorists and these are the people that are being dealt with and you have to deal with these people in a very strong way. And that's who we're aligning with. We are aligning with governments and leaders that are willing to be serious about taking these groups on. As opposed to leaders who in the past like we had with Petro and Colombia are actually on the take or aligned with these terrorist organizations and these narco groups and so forth. So you have to make a choice here. We're going to choose on the side of leaders that are going to be serious about taking these groups on and eliminating them once and for all. Otherwise those groups, those terrorist groups will eat these countries up. They will become stronger than the governments in these countries. They will run over these countries. So I'm glad we have leaders in the region that are willing to be strong and take these groups on. We're back. More for the Secretary of State Marco Rubio in a second. A much more important story.

6:08At least to my family and me, my mother is recovering from hip surgery in Florida and other she's watching right now along with my sister Monica in the hospital. When I say mom get better fast, love you like crazy, prayers sent, enjoy the show. She usually walks in the show every day at the hospital. She's in the hospital recovering and wanted to make sure I said, hello, shout out to my mama. Right. You got to shout out grandma, don't you? Hi, grandma. There you go. A little shout out to the hospital. Mom, make sure you're eating and don't let Monica give you any crap. I love my mom. If you're out there and if you hit your knees at night, make sure you had my mother Monica to a two year prayer. She's recovering nicely and I wanted to say hi to mom. All right, back to Marco Rubio, get it done in Ecuador. And again, here is a situation where we, I think ignored or actually were helping to pervay this drug trade across our border. Now we've got a Secretary of State and a president of vice president that are very serious about stopping it. In general, we haven't hidden the fact that we are going to go off to an arco trafficking

7:08boat. We've been doing it now for over a year. And now the difference is that we're doing it in cooperation and in cooperation with working alongside countries in the region in their territorial waters. And in fact, some of these countries are taking the strikes themselves. So that's what I can tell you. We're going to continue to do it and we're not just going to continue to do that. These terrorist groups have to be dismantled, not just by blowing up their boats and taking their boats. They have to be dismantled financially. I don't know if you guys fully comprehend how deeply rooted into societies, these criminal bands have become. You have people and governments here that are complicit with them and what they were doing. It's illegal mining. But it goes all the way down to the street level, murder, extortion, murder for hire. You name it. I mean, these groups became more powerful in governments in many cases. And if you don't confront these groups, they will eat these countries alive. It's like a cancer that continues to grow until you don't literally have a state anymore. You become an ungovernable territory. And we don't want to see that. They don't want to see it. We're glad that we have leaders in this region that are serious about going after these groups because if we didn't, we would have failed country after failed country in the

8:12region. And so we're very happy that we have partners now in this region, in Colombia, in Ecuador, in El Salvador and in other places that are being very aggressive about taking these groups on and dismantling them before it's too late. There you go. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, you know who wasn't there? You know who didn't go there? Kamala Harris as the vice president. Andy Blinken at the as the Secretary of State, Jake Sullivan as the national security advisor, whatever. You know there. In fact, Kamala Harris when she was made the borders are, and they she lied about not being the borders are, although she was named the borders are, didn't go to Central America. And I remember he got in trouble. It was less to hold, I believe, asking her, you haven't, I'm saying to her, you haven't been essential in there. Well, I also have been to Europe, she said. I mean, that's how weird that administration was for four years. So if you're even considering looking at a Democrat in the midterms, I'll get a remember what we went through for four years. You know, levels of drugs across the border through the roof, levels of illegal aliens through the border through the roof, levels of sex trafficking, drug trafficking, human trafficking

9:16through the border through the roof. And they didn't care, and I really didn't they care they did it on purpose. They did it on purpose. Look how hard it is to get people to be able to send people back now. Ending TPS temporary protected status. They don't want to end it. It's called temporary. They're lying about deporting five year old children, which isn't happening. So this is the right way to go about it. We're not playing around. The United States is back. We're not going to let you keep on taking advantage of us. We will step up and do something. He continued. The question was whether I was worried about left wing groups or left wing movements rising and as a result of US policy. Left wing groups have already been here, and they've destroyed the hemisphere. The left wing destroyed Venezuela. The left wing destroyed Cuba. The left wing destroyed Nicaragua. The left wing has basically destroyed every country they've gotten a hold of in the hemisphere. Not only have they done that here in Ecuador as well, not only have they done that in Bolivia. Look what Bolivia has suffered for 25 years because of left wing governance. And in fact, down in the groups destroyed these countries because of bad economic policies

10:18in places like Ecuador and in Colombia over the last four years. These left wing groups are actually in alliance with these criminal, narco trafficking organizations. They are outlined with them. They are alive with them. They permit them to conduct these activities in an aferious alliance between them. So I'm glad that's being confronted. And by the way, these groups are not just threats to these countries. They ultimately become threats to the United States. I work for the United States of America. And the threat in this region is emerging to the national security and national interest of our country. We are going to address it. And what we're very happy about is that we can now address it in partnership with other presidents and other leaders in this region that feel the same way. Again, very stern, very direct. He's getting it done, making it happen. And then he goes directly at Claudia Shimbam, who is the president of Mexico, especially here in my home market. There are a lot of people that have Mexican heritage. And many of them don't like Claudia Shimbam. Many of them don't like illegal immigration. But it is interesting that our neighbor to the south has somebody who's in the lead who looks like she's not as hard on the cartels as she pretended she was.

11:21And Ruby only played that. Yeah, the case of Mexico is an even graver challenge because of the size of the country, because of the power of the cartels that are there. I don't think it's any mystery to anybody. That there are territories, vast territories in Mexico that are not governed by the state. They are controlled by these narco-terrorist organizations. Now, I will say this in fairness, the Mexicans have done more than they've ever done before to go after these groups. But it is still not nearly enough. They know that we've expressed that to them. And we hope to work cooperatively with them to do more. Because at the end, the head of the snake are these cartels in Mexico. And they are a threat to the Mexican state. And the people of Mexico will tell you that. The number one issue in Mexico, poll after poll shows, is security. Political candidates are routinely assassinated in Mexico. Judges routinely assassinated journalists who report on the cartels routinely assassinated by these groups. So these groups pose an enormous threat right on our border. They have drones now. They're using drones to try to traffic drugs and people across the border. These groups are very dangerous. They're very well financed. They need to be confronted. Our hope and our intent is to do it in partnership with Mexico.

12:23That's the ideal. But eventually, that threat will have to be confronted one way or the other. But our hope is to do it cooperatively with Mexican authorities. That would be good, as a matter of fact, Sean Bommese raised her game. We come back. We'll talk about this midterm convention going on in Dallas. A lot of people there. We're going to give you the very latest that we're getting from there. The president expected to speak tonight. And also tomorrow. Sam, are we getting a live feed from that? By the way. I do believe that we are. OK. If we see something of note, we'll make sure we bring it to you live as well. Bottom of the hour, it'll be Roger Stone, the part with Roger about Russia collusion and about China and what they did in 2020. That's over on YouTube now. Joe Pags.com slash YouTube. Joe Pags.com slash YouTube. Go check it out. Did you know your car can be a spy? Seriously, here's the true story proving it. The guy's car insurance jumped over 20%. No accidents, no tickets. He started digging out and digging to find out exactly what happened. Who is his own car telling on him every hard break, every fast merge, every late night taco run, his automaker logged it all sold it to a data broker.

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16:43And I am hoping that President Trump will be taking him out because otherwise he's going to be the next Maduro. They're waiting in the wings for Mr. President to leave. Well, let me ask you this. I mean, you got Dolce Rodriguez, right? Who's running that place now? She was the vice president under Maduro. Why is that better? Well, she's not. I'm hoping that Mr. Machado gets in there. That's what I'm hoping for. Right. Well, she's the right person that the people would have elected, right? Right. But I mean, but still, Dolce is the one who's running it. No, but President Trump keeps saying, how would a great job? Dolce is doing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm hoping that kind of transitions, but don't forget Mr. Cabello, whenever you get a chance, he's still out there. He's causing trouble. He's causing trouble for the year-quake relief that was in the news. He runs the malicious, those people on the bikes. We got to get him out of there. Well, listen, I want to agree with you. I don't know much about Cabello. I do know about this woman who's running it now. Dolce Rodriguez. She was the vice president of Maduro.

17:44So she was in the same administration. You've got a situation where you should have fair and free elections there sooner than later. I think the earthquake that horrific, terrible, damaging earthquake killing a lot of people, that certainly set things back politically as well as should. You've got to take care of the humanitarian needs. But that said, Dolce Rodriguez, I don't think it should be anybody who lasts in that job. And I would like to see some attention focused back on that and getting the chattel in there would make a lot of sense. I think that she was the one that the people of Venezuela wanted to begin with. Yeah, I like the rubios going down there. I like that he's speaking with them. That's exactly what should be happening. And I'm glad that he's doing that. And he's speaking very firmly. He's not going, you know, we want to be friends and up to do. They've already two inches. Oh, no, no, no. This has stopped the drugs. Cartels are bad. They should be taken out. The leaders of these countries need to do a better job. I think that made a lot of sense. This is what Newsmax is reporting Republicans open first midterm convention in Dallas. This is being reported by the Newsmax wires. Republicans open their first national midterm convention Wednesday today with President Donald

18:45Trump, Vice President JD Vance, cabinet officials and congressional candidates gathering for a two day event aimed at energizing voters ahead of the November 3rd election. More than 100 speakers are scheduled to appear at the American Airlines Center with programming focused on taxes, immigration, healthcare, and the economy and other Republican priorities. Unlike President's nominating conventions, the gathering has no formal party business to conduct reports the Wall Street Journal. Trump will be at the center of the event delivering the keynote address Wednesday and returning for closing remarks Thursday. Vance's schedule for a prime time address Thursday several senior administration officials are also scheduled to speak. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson and Attorney General Todd Blanche are among Wednesday speakers while helping human services secretary Robert of Kennedy Jr. schedule to appear Thursday. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Scott Turner is also on the program. The appearance by Blanche is unusual for a sitting attorney general whose position this nation's top law enforcement official has traditionally kept the office at some distance from campaign politics. They had to throw in a little something there. The so-called newswires and newsmax.

19:46The newswires had to throw in something there. That's pretty interesting to me. Other scheduled speakers include House Speaker Mike Johnson, House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, Senator Tim Scott, Senator Ted Cruz, Texas Governor Greg Gabbett, National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Richard Hudson, and R&C Chairman Joe Grooters. Republicans plan to use the convention to promote the administration's record while drawing contrast with Democrats on taxes. Immigration, public safety and economic policy, the official program includes sessions on tax relief, government waste, health care, and what organizers describe as competing Republican and Democratic visions for the country. With that said, I've got to give you a little talent. Did I cue this up? Talent Rico, I guess, is now trying to move away from the fact that he said there are six genders. I think these people on the left think they could just do that and it's just going to stick. I mean, I don't think so. 2021 hearing, you said there are six biological sexes. Do you still believe that standing here in the right now? No. I've missed the mark on some of my past statements. I will be the first to admit it.

20:47What I meant is that there are two sexes and then there's a small percentage of people with genetic abnormalities. Obviously, it didn't say it correctly. There are not six sexes. There are two. And I think the reason that politicians in that convention center across the street want to talk about six sexes is because they don't want to talk about six-dollar diesel. Everywhere I go across the state of Texas, people are struggling to survive in this economy. They are struggling to afford the basics, grocery. Who's voting for this dumb ass? He didn't misspeak. He didn't speak out of turn. He said there are six genders. He said it. Don't talk about six-dollar diesel. No, dude. There's something wrong with you. You think every religion is a war showing the same God. Why would there be different religions then? You think that Jesus is non-binary. You love the trans kids. You think there are six genders and you hate oil and gas and you're running for a US centered out of Texas. Sorry. You can't just say whatever you feel like and then say later, I don't really mean that.

21:49Keep it here. I'm a Vavri Zordan Casino celebrating its 40th anniversary. You in must be 21 to enter. When it comes to what's going on in elections, I have never before and never since met a person who's got more knowledge than this guy when it comes to what the electorate is thinking. He's almost always right and when he's not, he's awfully close.

22:52It's Roger Stone. Of course, he's a best-selling author, the Stone Zone, the Roger Stone Show, StoneZone.com. The guys everywhere. At Roger, thanks for making time today. Nothing you're not doing a lot of these. Thank you for making time for my audience. Joe, it's great to be with you. And of course, I love talking politics, particularly with the fellow Italian-American. Couple of pies on, sitting around, talking about what's going on in this November. I've got to tell you, it's a little worrisome Roger because with Charlie Kirkgone a year ago now, unbelievably. The young ears aren't getting the same steady flow of the truth as they were. There are people jockeying for position to get into their ears and to lead them this way or that way. I fear that a lot of young people will sit out this election. Do you have that same fear? I do. I also think with those very same younger voters you're talking about, you can't just say socialism and expect them to understand how horrific socialism is, like the impact of socialist policies really is. So I fear that hoping change phenomena, we saw it with Obama, we saw it to a certain

23:55extent with Bamedami in New York City where people think that they're buying reform without really understanding what it is they're signing up for. And this is what the convention in Dallas is all about. This is what the entire campaign with the enormous financial advantage that President Trump and the Republicans have has to be about. It's campaigns are an educational process. That's what we need to go through in an intense way in the next roughly 60 days. I want to talk about the coffers that the president has built up because those are massive. I've heard 400 million, I've heard 850 million. We'll get into that in a second. But Roger, I have a real problem with the way that Republicans like Ken Paxton are running their campaign. I like Ken. I know Ken. I'm going to get into the studio again soon, but you can't run and say it's James Tallahfrico vote for me. You've got to run and say, I'm Ken Paxton. I sued Biden 36 times and I won. I got your freedom and liberty away from Google online. He's got to tell me why he was such a great attorney general to get elected.

24:57President Trump has graded that. I'm Donald Trump and I did this for you. It's that I'm Donald Trump and these other people suck. You agree that Republicans maybe aren't doing the right thing by attacking the other side and not bragging enough about what they bring to the table? It absolutely has to be a mix of both. People know about Tallahfrico's. They need to know his record of the outrageous things he said. Yes. That Jesus Christ was binary or that non-binary. Non-binary, pardon me. Or that you can get to heaven through Jesus Christ or through Allah. There's only one way to heaven. That's through Jesus Christ through God. The fact that he's a vegan in a state where beef is vitally important. At all, all the other crazy things that he said, people need to understand who he is. And then you're absolutely right. People need to know that Ken Paxton has taken on the political establishment in Texas as well as nationally. And he's been in the forefront of fighting the Biden administration, fighting for the people

25:59of Texas. It's the combination of two and both of them at this point I think are not happening. Now, I was happy to see Elon Musk, who I'm a great admirer of. Yes, me too. He gave me my voice back on X for which I'm incredibly grateful. But also, he's put his money where his mouth is. I think that he was certainly one of the factors in our winning in 24. He's going to be one of the major factors in our surviving in 26. Let's be clear here. There is a historical record. The party in power has always lost seats in both houses in the midterm elections. This is not unique to Donald Trump. But I do think when you look at the resources and resources are a key part of this, I'm glad to see that there's been a rapprochement between Musk and Trump. And that Musk has just dumped very substantial amount of money in Texas to help educate people about who talent really is and what he really stands for. New York Times best selling author also the host of the Stone Zone, go to stonezone.com.

27:01It's Roger Stone. For me, you just made my point. You and I should be talking about James Talleriko, how he loves the trans kids, how he hates oil and gas and he's from Texas. We should be talking about his lie about being vegan as he's eating a big rib and pretending he's a Texas tough guy. We should be the ones that say, no, we don't all worship the same God because we believe in a triumphant God. If you're a Christian, he claims to be a Christian. I think we should be talking about that. Ken Paxson should focus on holy macro. I just did all these things for you for the past four or eight years as the attorney general. This race should not even be close is my point. So yes, you and I should continue talking about that in a debate. Maybe Paxson can bring that stuff out. But the one complaint I'm hearing and I don't mean to beat up on Ken because again, we're friends is that he hasn't campaigned enough yet. Roger, is he out there enough? Is he shaking hands and kissing babies enough? Well, the most important thing, of course, is that you and I must just put on the air. It's a very terrific spot that exposes who tell the Rico really is. Ken, let's be honest, pardon me. Joe, let's be honest, we live in the age of mass communications.

28:06Yes. If Ken Paxson started shaking hands today and he shook hands every single day or up until election day, he still could not shake the hand of every person in Texas. We could. He couldn't even shake hands with 10% of them. So our politics is whether we like it or not driven by mass media. What do I mean by that? Podcast television, still important. Cable television, still important. Trestual radio, good old fashioned AM FM radio, still vitally important. People don't understand that. Yes, digital advertising, but many, many voters are not on X. They're not on Facebook. They're not on Instagram. And people lose sight of that. So it is about mass-based communications, big ideas at sufficient repetition that people get it. They need to know, Tallerico's record. They also need to know what Ken has done for them. Frankly, unfortunately, fundraising becomes a crucial part of this. If Axtons out every day, raising money to pay for the advertisements on all of those

29:08mediums to get across his message about who he is and who Tallerico is, well, then I think that's time we'll spend. See, that's why I have you on it. Roger Stone, go to Stonezone.com, buy his books, go follow him on all the social media, go check out his show. And it comes to the Senate. We'll talk about the House in a second that I think is really precarious right now. But in the Senate, you can gain in Minnesota. You can gain in Michigan, will we? I think we can. Minnesota, I'm not as conversant with. I think we can win in Michigan. I still believe, Joe, that there is a subset of voters out there who are not Republicans, who are blue collar, working class, middle class voters. And while the president has lost a few of them, he hasn't lost all of them. He still has most of them. They don't particularly like Republicans if you want to know the truth. This is why Trump wins and McCain loses, Romney loses. Those voters don't normally turn out at all when Trump himself is not on the ballot.

30:12The MAGA Inc. machinery has spent a lot of time, a lot of effort studying those voters in a couple of special elections we've had to determine how to reach them, how to motivate them, and how to get them out. I still think that's going to be a crucial factor here. And if you look at the Harvard Harris poll, the most recent one, there's actually some encouraging data there in the generic ballot, Republican Democrats, Republicans still led 51, 49. This is not a poll that anyone is going to say, oh, that's a right wing or that's a conservative survey research company. I think if anything, they lean left. So I'm kind of tired of the panicans. Joe, I'm tired of those who have already thrown up their hand. Oh, we're going to lose the house. We could lose the Senate. No, actually, I think our politics is extraordinarily volatile. And nothing is set in cement yet. What, for example, just theoretically, the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who I by the way think deserves a huge credit for the Abraham records, a piece framework for the Middle

31:17East, building new alliances between Israel and a number of their neighbors in the first term, which everybody said couldn't be done. Right. But he did. And Steve Wittkov, doing the shadow diplomacy between Russia and Ukraine. Now, maybe nothing comes out of it, but what if somebody does come out of it? What if there is a ceasefire? What would the impact of that be on the November election? Yeah, every year. Perfect example. That's the perfect example when I talk about the volatility of this electorate and the current situation. And folks will be able to say, OK, yes, but gas is $4.19. OK, great. But what if it's under $3 at the beginning of October? Which it could be, which when you talk to Scott Besson, when you talk to Bill Potsy, we talk to people who understand a lot more about economics than I do. When you talk to John Katzmatini, he's a veteran oil man, they don't tell me it could drop precipitously between now and November, depending on a number of factors. Now we change everything. Yeah, we change everything.

32:18So anybody who wants to like declare this over now really doesn't understand how politics works. It is Roger Stone, Stonezone.com, amazing guy, great friend of mine. And one of the smartest political minds on the planet. So I want to get, I don't want to get into the weeds, but I do want to talk about Michigan in Minnesota and I'll fill in the blanks. I didn't expect you to know everything about everything when it came to the individual races. Michigan, you've got a really good chance. You've got two Democrats senators for a long time in that state where I was at television, news anchor for eight years. Mike Rogers was a former FBI guy, former military guy. He's a guy that was a US representative when I used to have anchored the news in Lansing, Michigan. We've known each other a long time. He should be a shoe in and he is winning now because this Abdul El-Sahead guy is nuts. He's a DSA guy who has said the nuttiest things. In fact, he was talking about circumcision the other day on Fox with Jesse Waters for no reason trying to say, train surgery is okay if you've been circumcised. Roger, the whole thing is crazy to me. So that should, easily to me, be a gain in the Senate. The one in Minnesota is different. Peggy Flanagan is running. She's the current Lieutenant Governor.

33:19She's nuts. She'll throw on a heat job to make you feel better. She wears trains, lives, matters, shirts with knives on them. She's running against former sportscaster Michelle Tafoya. Michelle is now only two points behind her in Minnesota. So you literally in the Midwest, those voters you just talked about, that Reagan guy, and that Trump got by McCain couldn't and Bush couldn't and others couldn't. You might be able to flip a couple of Senate seats. You might gain in the Senate. Is that possible? I'm going to take a really look at Minnesota. This is interesting to me. I admit to you, Joe. I'm not up on that particular race. But I do think that Minnesota, the hash had to be an impact for all of this massive corruption that we have discovered. And then of course, you have the other question of whether we're going to have a free, fair and honest election. Right. Whenever you try to question the anomalies, your regularities, or the indications of fraud in 2020, people go out of your minds like you're some kind of a lunacy. I think those are reasonable legitimate questions that deserve an answer.

34:20But if we have an honest election, I think we could pick up Michigan. I don't take a new look at Minnesota, be honest with you. It's a race I have not followed. It's a Roger Stone. Let's finish up with the midterms. And I want to get into Russia collusion, want to get into 2016, 2020 and all that stuff. But last thing in the midterms, you made a point here that actually, you know, made my brain move a little bit that you have to make Trump the question on the ballot this November. That's it for part one of my special interview with Roger Stone, part two. Next hour on the Joe Pag show. This is the Joe Pag show. Yamaha Resort and Casino at Sandman Well is bringing the biggest laughs to the stage. Break taboos with Ali Wang on August 28th and 29th. Enjoy Ralph Barbosa's Dry Humor on September 18th and 19th. And don't miss Nikki Glazer's unapologetic comedy November 19th.

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36:31Jennifer searched for her daughter. It turns out an illegal alien had hidden Megan's body upside down in a bleach filled garbage in his backyard just steps from where her mother was looking. Now eventually he was arrested. But soft on crime laws allowed him to be released back onto our streets one day later. But I will tell you this. He has since been arrested by ICE and will never walk on America's streets again. And that does not bring Megan back. And Megan's children will still grow up without their mother.

37:33That is why this moment matters. When Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance do not treat stories like Megan's as acceptable in our society, they treat it as a failure of government. Now they vow to fix the problem and they back the men and women who secure the homeland and they do not flinch when the work gets hard. And under their leadership, 2.6 million criminal aliens who entered the country illegally and should never have been released into our neighborhoods are being swiftly removed. Bernie General Todd Blink speaking in Dallas live. A legal boardy crossings are at their lowest level since the 1970s. Thedmore trafficking at the southern border fell 56%.

38:37Overdose deaths fell 21%. And the Trump administration is working hard every day to make sure we take care of victims. So families like Jennifer's are not left alone. Now that same leadership delivered results beyond the border. This law and order administration recorded the largest one year decline in homicides in American history. Rape's robberies and aggravated assaults fell. These officer deaths on duty declined. Missing migrant children were recovered from trafficking and labor networks. Tax payers were protected. Federal benefits were cut off for people who were never entitled to them.

39:41And the largest healthcare fraud takedown in American history stopped thieves who were building the sick and the elderly. To evil men and women in this country know this. President Trump will hold you accountable. If you traffic children, you will be held accountable. If you sell death in a pill, you will be held accountable. If you choose violence, you will be held accountable. And if you steal from people who work hard and pay taxes, you will be held accountable. Now that is making America safe again. President Trump and Vice President Vance set that course.

40:41They have always and they will always back the blue. They put American families first. They proved that order and prosperity go hand in hand. The results are real. The work ahead is real. And Americans thank you for choosing to make our country safe again. Now we are just getting started. Attorney General Todd Blanche getting it done in Dallas. That was a live feed. It was actually about 10 or 15 seconds behind. But nearly live we are going to jump back in next hour with the president goes up and speaks or another dignitary goes up and speaks. Trust me we will be all over that. It is the Joe Pag show part two with Roger Stone next hour too. Don't touch that dial. This is the Joe Pag show.

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