0:00
It's the locked on podcast network, your team every day.
0:10
This is James Yarko from Locked On Bucks and I want you to imagine for a moment you're
0:13
watching the big game at a buddy's house, everyone's having a good time and you get
0:17
a call that someone tried to break into your home in a second.
0:20
Everything can change.
0:21
That's why there's ADT ADT's security systems helps keep your home safe 24 seven with
0:27
the most company operated monitoring centers in the industry and the ADT plus app keeps
0:32
you in control the whole time.
0:34
Don't leave your home wide open during an emergency when every second counts count on
0:40
Visit ADT.com or call 1-800-ADT-AS-AP.
0:45
The ticket, Lady Jennifer of Coons.
0:48
Well, many thanks, good sir.
0:51
Here is my discover card.
0:54
They accept a discover at Renaissance fairs.
0:58
Discoverers accepted at the places I love to shop.
1:00
Get it with the times.
1:02
With the times, you're playing the loot.
1:06
Yeah, and it sounds pretty good, right?
1:09
Discoverers accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide.
1:13
Based on the February 2025 Nilsen report, say the lines are taking their time and taking
1:21
a measured approach and free agency is an understatement.
1:30
You are locked on lions.
1:32
You're daily Detroit Lions podcast, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team
1:42
And a pleasant afternoon everybody, welcome into a Wednesday edition of Locked On Lions.
1:46
Locked On Podcast Network, the number one sports podcast network.
1:49
My name is Matt Derry.
1:51
Thank you for being with us on this Wednesday, March the 11th, day three of NFL free agency
1:56
and man, the lions are cooking into Thursday, May 12th.
2:05
I'm making myself laugh.
2:07
I'm trying to entertain myself.
2:09
I'm like, what am I supposed to do for 28 minutes today?
2:15
Colton Pouncy from the athletic.com is going to join us tomorrow on the program to talk
2:21
I, you know, I'm trying not to be a total a hole here.
2:26
I'm really trying hard.
2:28
And my texts are blowing up.
2:29
Our every dayers are out there.
2:32
Some of which are texting me.
2:33
What are the lines doing?
2:36
They have the lions and I'm going way off the script today.
2:42
The Detroit lions right now have three defensive ends on their roster, three.
2:49
As we reach day three of free agency and yes, they're going to sign somebody.
2:52
I don't know who I don't know when they have to.
2:57
You got Aiden Hutchinson.
2:59
You got a stud, a horse.
3:01
Hutch is about to be making over $30 million a year pro bowl or all pro.
3:07
Can you name the other two defensive ends or edge rushers on this roster?
3:12
I'm going to give you a minute here.
3:16
You're sitting there watching maybe on YouTube or you're listening on Odyssey or Spotify
3:23
Who are the other two edge rushers on the roster right now?
3:32
He was on the team last year.
3:33
There were games he was out there.
3:35
I never heard his name called.
3:37
And number two is the legendary six round pick from last year Ahmed Hassanine.
3:47
You know who's still out there, folks?
3:51
Al Qudin Mohammed is still sitting there, still sitting there, but it has been a quiet
3:58
There's a Jared Goffery structure that we will discuss.
4:01
We will discuss the edge rusher room and how there are some, uh, uh, capable players
4:07
Although today, I saw Bradley Chubb get three years and 43 millions of the bills.
4:12
That guy had a terrible year for the dolphins last year.
4:14
And that is a massive overspend.
4:18
We'll get into that.
4:21
And the Josh Paschal era has come to an end.
4:26
What a, what a, what a four year mystery Josh Paschal was as a, yes, second round pick
4:36
All of that today right here on locked on lion.
4:38
Thanks for being with us, everybody again, Colton Pouncy from the athletic dot com is a great
4:44
job covering the Lions.
4:45
We always love having them on the show is going to join us tomorrow.
4:51
I, I don't know what to say.
4:55
I'm not sure how to go about discussing free agency for the Lions right now and just
5:01
how quiet, uh, it, it kind of has been especially today.
5:06
I thought today when the Lions announced this morning or it was reported this morning, the
5:10
Jared golf and restructured his contract and I'll get to that in a second that the Lions
5:15
were going to spend some money someplace.
5:18
And again, they might be waiting for the day.
5:21
This is not a race, all right, but as somebody that has followed this team and has podcasted
5:27
about this team and everything else.
5:30
I just figured by now, there would be more, unless the Lions are just deciding, look,
5:36
the money that we have is going to go to our own players.
5:40
Now again, if you extend Sam LaPorta, if you extend Jermir gives, if you want to extend
5:47
Brian branch or Jack Campbell, who you really need to extend those extensions will be down
5:55
You, you can, you can extend them and pay them down the road.
5:58
So not technically that money goes to this season, it doesn't have to.
6:04
But you know, I, I, I just, I look at the, the depth chart right now, especially on the
6:09
defensive side and look, some of the players that were brought back, uh, whether it was
6:16
Rocky a scene, Malcolm Rodriguez, um, you know, uh, uh, you know, re-upping with Ali McNeil
6:26
a couple of years ago, Aiden Hutchinson's got all those things.
6:29
And yes, Avantamatics is still out there and there's other guys that are still out there.
6:34
Maybe Alcadine, Muhammad has to suck it up and take another one year deal.
6:37
Yes, Levi owns a Rika returns from injury and the Lions like him.
6:41
They obviously don't care about Josh Pascal anymore because he gone, but regardless, I expected
6:51
The Lions, I still think need another offensive line or, or a couple and maybe just maybe,
7:01
what all this is and then maybe another tight end and, and, and we got to talk about, um,
7:06
you know, replacing at a starting linebacker spot, Alex Anzaloni, the gains media poster
7:13
boy who was heading to Tampa Bay, but I look at this and say that maybe starting next
7:20
year because I didn't do it this year because I got sucked in.
7:26
That maybe just maybe this franchise, this organization just does not believe in free
7:33
agency and that they are sticking to their guns, they're sticking to the plan.
7:40
And maybe the general manager Brad Holmes, well, I'm not taking a shot at it all.
7:45
He's built this thing and it's done a good job.
7:47
But maybe he just says, I just, our philosophy has got to stay the same.
7:52
We are not going to overspend on anybody, anybody today of the Packers who rarely dip their
8:01
toe into that free agency hot tub.
8:04
They went out and signed Javan Hargrave, X of the Vikings to a two year 23 million dollar
8:12
Sort of similar to the deal that DJ Reader had signed a couple of years ago.
8:17
And Javan Hargrave is an average player.
8:23
He had a great game for the Vikings against the Lions back in week 17.
8:27
But regardless, he's a guy that's bounced around recently, whether it was San Francisco,
8:30
Philly, Minnesota, et cetera.
8:33
That's a lot of money for Javan Hargrave.
8:37
And I'm just thinking that maybe things are quiet and maybe the Lions are being tempered
8:42
with their approach because the last couple of contracts that they have handed out in
8:47
free agency, haven't exactly been home runs.
8:52
Remember, like I said, two years ago, the Lions gave DJ Reader two years and 26 million.
8:58
How did that work out?
9:01
Last year, the Lions lost Carlton Davis to the Patriots and said, our next best move is
9:05
to give three years and around 13, 14 million dollars a year to DJ Reed corner back.
9:12
He's going to be our number one corner.
9:14
We're getting them from the jets.
9:15
How did that turn out?
9:25
So maybe this franchise is like, look, we are, we are going to fill needs.
9:31
They had a needed center, they had a need a backup quarterback, they had a needed backup
9:37
They needed another corner, they re up DJ Reed, they need, they needed a tackle, Larry
9:43
boredom, er, boredom, traded for juice, shrugs.
9:55
And I get it sexy isn't what always wins, the Tennessee Titans every year load up, load
10:04
up that load up that, that, that, that, that blackjack table, they've sucked for years.
10:12
Ever since they let Mike Vrable go, Worland Saints giving 18 million a year to Travis
10:20
And you know, people are going, what are the same, like the commander is adding four players
10:24
And none of them, I'm doing backslip so the Lions are taking this tempered approach, but
10:29
I get the fans frustration because we just, for as transparent as Brad and Dan are and
10:35
maybe Brad will answer some questions after free agency.
10:39
This is not an organization that is, is, is thinking much about the free agent period
10:47
and going out and, and getting Max Crosby, all right, they freed up money today with the
10:53
Jared Goff restructure to make a play for Max Crosby based upon Crosby, of course, failing
11:04
is physical, the Ravens, the Ravens and pivoting to Trey Hendricks in, et cetera, but the Lions
11:13
That's just not in their bag of tracks.
11:17
So I can understand the fans frustration because you're looking up going, who's, who's
11:20
going to play linebacker next to Jack Campbell?
11:25
Do we have another safety option in case Kirby Joseph is, is, is not ready?
11:30
Who's the right tackle?
11:31
Who's the left techno?
11:32
Not one of them's, but a soul.
11:33
You know, the center is Cade Maze.
11:36
Most everybody applauded that, that's signing, most everybody.
11:43
So there you have it, as far as a quiet Wednesday.
11:47
So far, again, I'm recording at 520 and 630 after I put this thing and I can, they could
11:53
go out and do a spending spree tonight and this show could be null and void, but I do
12:01
Starting up next, the Jared Goff restructure, a little bit of an explanation on that.
12:06
We will do that right here, unlocked on Lions.
12:08
It is a Wednesday edition, as I mentioned before, our main man, Colton Cup, Colton Pounds
12:14
is going to join us tomorrow.
12:21
Great to have our friends at 5 hour energy back with us here, unlocked on Lions.
12:27
It's our energy flavor draft, yes, 18 different flavors to choose from, including new options
12:33
like confetti craze, fruity rainbow, or cotton candy, there's something for everyone.
12:39
The board is set, the flavors are ready.
12:42
My number one pick for the 5 hour energy flavor draft, and it is pretty simple, ladies
12:47
Bold cherry candy style flavor, sweet with a light tart edge, classic red fruit profile.
12:54
But I need to just get a boost of energy and wake up a little bit.
12:57
I go with 5 hour energy and I like cherry.
13:00
Don't get me wrong, the berry is good, the Hawaiian breeze is solid, all of that at 5 hour
13:08
You got tons of flavors that you can debate about, which one you think is number one,
13:13
Don't forget confetti and confetti craze, fruity rainbow or cotton candy, they're here
13:19
All right, 5 hour energy shots, give you that boost with zero sugar.
13:23
5 hour energy is a lot of our coming flavor innovations planned, all right, so let's
13:29
Find your new favorite flavor of 5 hour energy shots available online at 5hourenergy.com
13:35
or you can get them on Amazon.
13:42
What's up everybody?
13:43
This is Ross Jackson, one of the hosts of the Lockdown Podcast Network, and if you haven't
13:46
heard yet, we started a club and we would love for you to join.
13:50
It's called the Every Day or Club, and one of the things that you get as a member is
13:53
an ad-free version of the podcast that you're listening to right now.
13:57
It works with whatever podcast app you already use, same episodes every day, just no ad.
14:02
There's also a member's only group chat for fans of your team, plus a lot more.
14:07
You can check it out by tapping the Every Day or Club link in the show notes.
14:11
Hey, what about our friends at the Every Day or Club for those of you that have joined
14:18
Lockdown Lions, Every Day or Club is here, all right.
14:23
We got free agency for you, but you can also get one month free of the Every Day or Club
14:27
with code free agency, no spaces now through March 15th, only a couple days left.
14:34
You become an Every Day or a member of the Every Day or Club, you get your show ad-free.
14:38
And keep the conversation going on our Lockdown Lions Every Day or Club Discord chat.
14:44
I was on the chat today, saw some of my guys on there, Gavin Trevino, Brian Hainer,
14:50
welcome Brian to the mix.
14:52
Steve Fassin, the only Colby is there, Mac, who's my other guy?
15:00
Oh, goodness gracious.
15:01
DeFresh, all of you on our Lockdown Lions Every Day or Club Discord, Sean from Labowski
15:09
Sports Cards, Chris Drew and Drew and where have you been on the Every Day or Club Discord?
15:17
Double J, a lot of great folks that are chatting, Lions, Gavin Trevino wrote at 440 today,
15:23
Baltimore is dirty, LOL, talking about the Ravens cancelling the Max Crosby trade.
15:29
But join us again, lockdownlions.supercast.com, lockdownlions.supercast.com, try us out, it's
15:37
the Every Day or Club.
15:40
All right, so earlier today, fans got excited because Jared Goff restructured his contract.
15:46
It was your basic restructuring where Lions took a good chunk, like 40 million dollars
15:57
that they owed Jared Goff and moved it to a signing bonus, meaning it freed up about
16:04
32 million dollars for the Lions to utilize here in for agency or whatever else cap space
16:14
So this does not automatically mean that the Lions have to use that cap space, have to spend
16:18
it on a player, are going after Max Crosby, et cetera.
16:22
But let me just check my phone to make sure that they haven't gone after Max Crosby.
16:28
But regardless of the situation here, this was an opportunity for the Lions to move some
16:36
of that Jared Goff salary into a bonus, free up some space, and if they want to do some
16:41
re-ups, if somehow they wanted to sign some more players, they have more space to do so.
16:47
All right, now what the Lions did not do is move all of the money.
16:51
There's still some money left over, which means maybe the Lions don't view this as some
16:58
sort of spending spree.
17:01
But remember, there's also around $12 million or so that the Lions are going to have to spend
17:08
on their rookies, on their rookie class.
17:11
You can't, if you're a team right now and you're at zero cap space, you're going to have to
17:15
cut some players, because you have to free up money to sign your draft class.
17:22
So that's probably between 12 and let's say $15 million, it just depends on how many of
17:27
the Lions draft picks that they use.
17:28
And as we told you yesterday, Lions of a first round or a second round or two fourths,
17:33
two fifths, leave two sixths and a seventh.
17:37
So the Lions have a lot of luck.
17:41
That's where the Lions are going to have to butter their bread here, is the draft.
17:44
I think that's where the Lions and Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell and everybody are really
17:49
looking forward to adding to this roster.
17:51
You can't tell me they're not going to draft an edge rush.
17:56
You can't tell me they're not going to draft a starting tackle.
17:59
I'm sorry, but Giovanni Manu, Larry Borum, these are not starting tackles on a
18:05
super bowl contender.
18:08
But maybe Kaden Proctor at 17, if that's who they want to take or either the Utah tackles
18:18
or anybody like that could be the guy for Detroit.
18:24
So golf restructures, there was some silly consternation about what if they don't, what if they,
18:30
no, golf got that done, the Lions got it done next year as cap numbers like 62 million,
18:38
they'll probably restructure again.
18:41
It's just moving money around to free up salary for other spots.
18:47
And like I said before, maybe the Lions have freed up some space to go get an edge rusher
18:54
I don't believe Max Crosby is going to be that guy.
18:57
Now if you like Caleb on chase on, he signed a day with the Washington commanders like Bradley
19:02
Chubb, he signed a day with the Buffalo Bills.
19:05
The guy I want the Lions to go get, I think he would be out of one of your deal is Cam Jordan.
19:12
All right, he was in New Orleans with Dan Campbell for a few years.
19:15
Yes, he's 36 about to be 37 years old and has played 15 years in league, but he's a good football
19:22
Maybe that's where this money is going.
19:23
Maybe the Lions sign Cam Jordan and bring back Alcadine Muhammad.
19:28
He is still available to Davey on Clowny is not somebody that I'm interested in.
19:35
He is bounced around from team to team.
19:38
AJ Epinessa is a guy that coming out of Iowa and he went to Buffalo.
19:43
I thought would have a better career so far.
19:48
He got demoted a year ago.
19:49
Joey Bosa took his spot and he only has 24 career sacks in five or six years.
19:58
But he could be a guy that the Lions could look at.
20:02
I mentioned Chubb is off the board.
20:04
D'Nico Autry is available.
20:07
Maybe Cam Sample, Joey Bosa, who I don't think is good a fit for the Lions as let's say
20:13
Epinessa or even Cam Jordan, but those are the players that are out there.
20:19
And we've talked about this for the last couple of years.
20:24
That Hey, Mark is down in Portugal.
20:29
I told you I'm a little weird.
20:31
I'm in the weird mood today.
20:33
We've talked about it for years at the Lions, you know, just don't they don't spend big.
20:41
They spend big on their own guys.
20:43
They were not going to go out.
20:44
I don't think and get Trey Hendrix in or Max Crosby and that's the weirdest story ever
20:50
Now the Raiders say they're keeping Crosby and that he's going to come to the facility
20:55
and everything's going to be fine.
20:57
After they of course agreed to trade with the Ravens, but he failed his physical.
21:03
But there's a lot of time left here, but maybe Detroit's just playing the waiting game.
21:07
For those maybe Mohamed's agent is still demanding multiple years or something like that.
21:14
And maybe the Lions are like, we're not ready to go there.
21:18
Some of his better free agent, sign ease and guys that he's picked up have been on one
21:24
That might be the maneuver right now, but those are the kind of players that are available
21:30
Josh Pascal was on the Lions as of this morning.
21:37
You want to talk about I don't I wouldn't even know how to describe.
21:41
Josh Pascal's four years in Detroit.
21:44
We're going to try to do that.
21:46
We'll do that next right here on Locked Online.
21:54
All right, folks locked online today brought to you by fan dual college basketball nonstop
21:59
right now big games tight spreads momentum swings every single night.
22:03
From early tip off late night West Coast shootouts.
22:05
There's always action on the board.
22:07
And now Fandall is giving you a way to turn their energy, that energy into even bigger
22:12
potential wins with a college basketball parlay profit boost.
22:17
You can build any college hoops parlay.
22:19
You want rivalry games, ranked matchups, whatever fits your read.
22:23
You can mix spreads, totals, player props to match how you see the slate playing out.
22:27
Then you can apply the profit boost and instantly bump up the potential payout.
22:32
If you're watching last night, man, UDM Titans were right there.
22:35
Detroit was right there.
22:37
Detroit mercy mark my coming to a great job.
22:39
They were up 10 and a second half on Raider Nation and then Wright State came back to
22:44
win in the horizon league championship.
22:46
How about shout out Jerry McNamara, the pride of Syracuse.
22:49
Sienna, they're going to the dance.
22:51
Go save Gold Gold ride with the team.
22:53
You've been following all season.
22:54
It's your parlay, your style now with more upside behind it.
22:58
Head to fan dual dot com to get started.
23:00
That's fandall dot com.
23:02
Fandall play your game.
23:11
So Brad Holmes has hit on a lot of draft picks.
23:14
He has done a very, very good job drafting.
23:17
The last two years has not been the best.
23:19
All right, I think we can all admit that.
23:21
But if you go back and look at the players,
23:23
that Brad Holmes has has plucked out of the draft.
23:26
Whether it's Elie McNeil, Penaisule, Aiden Hutchinson,
23:29
I'm in Rossane Brown, Jack Campbell, Brian Branch, Jamir Gibbs.
23:34
The list goes on with players that have come in here and really helped this team
23:39
and have done a very, very good job.
23:42
There have been some clunkers and Josh Paschal is a clunker.
23:48
2022 second round pick, very injured in college a lot,
23:54
but a guy that could play both detackle and defensive end.
23:58
And today, your Detroit Lions released Josh Paschal.
24:06
I don't believe the Lions ever had the intention of bringing him back.
24:14
But after last year, where he was on the non football injury list,
24:20
so his contract got told me, meaning nothing happened last year.
24:25
It was almost like he wasn't on the team and his contract got pushed to this year
24:29
because he had back surgery.
24:32
The rookie year, he missed seven games.
24:34
His second year, he missed five games in this past year.
24:37
He missed the entire season.
24:39
But Josh Paschal is a guy that had a lot of potential.
24:44
All right, 36 games, 18 starts, 5 sacs, 62 tackles in four years.
24:50
But never really, never really could crack the code on being an impact player.
24:58
And, you know, we've talked about something like Levi and Zarek and Josh Paschal are very similar.
25:03
And you look at their bodies of work and you go, man, in 2024, Levi balled out.
25:09
He played very well.
25:11
He was healthy and he did the job at detackle.
25:14
And he was as good a detackle as Lions had that year.
25:18
Paschal just like, it's a mystery.
25:22
He never could stay on the field when he was on the field.
25:26
I remember when he made his debut.
25:27
I believe in 2022 with the Lions, Lions played in Dallas.
25:31
And he had a couple of tackles for a loss and he went, man, it's finally healthy.
25:34
And this is the guy we've been waiting for.
25:36
Put him back out there.
25:37
I want to see more of Josh Paschal and it just never, ever came to fruition for him.
25:46
And now with the Lions having a need for an ed draw shirt and having a guy coming off
25:54
a back surgery, that they know.
25:58
And the Lions still want to release him.
26:02
That should tell you something about how they felt about the player.
26:04
And maybe he's just never going to be healthy and maybe that back injury and the surgery
26:09
is something that is going to just hamper him forever.
26:16
But how to kind of explain the four years of Josh Paschal, it's hard to do.
26:23
It is a total mystery.
26:26
But it's on Brad Holmes now and the rest of the front office to find some folks to replace
26:34
Tyrus Wheat, by the way, who was on the team last year too, whom the Lions picked up
26:38
from Dallas on Cut Down Day, he's going back to the Cowboys today.
26:45
So there is a definite boy and whole along the defensive line.
26:48
And again, this is not a race.
26:51
I get where the fans angst is right now.
26:53
They're like, who's going to play ed draw shirt?
26:56
You know, we, we, we, we, we put in Dan Miller out there.
27:00
By the way, I didn't mention yesterday because we didn't have the numbers.
27:05
I'm going to find them right now.
27:08
The Isaiah Pacheco contract.
27:12
And we talked about it, all right?
27:13
Pacheco is a guy that had a lot of sex appeal for football fans, for how he ran the rock
27:21
in 2022 and 2023, then the broken leg two years ago.
27:26
He agreed to terms with the Lions on a one year, $1.81 million deal.
27:32
You want to talk about small money.
27:35
I mean, rock is seen as getting $4 million.
27:40
I mentioned before, Tyrus Wheat going to Dallas, he's getting $1.8 million for one year.
27:49
And the Lions are getting Pacheco on a one year, $1.8 million deal.
27:53
So the question has to be, and I've seen some folks on our discord channel for the
27:59
every day or club on the chat.
28:02
There was a trash talking board for each division, and I locked on AFC West board, a lot of
28:08
the folks that are what that saw Pacheco last year said he just wasn't hit holes.
28:13
So Lions had some work to do with him, but they got him for nothing, basically $1.8 million.
28:18
So I didn't mention the money yesterday, but that came out this morning.
28:23
All right, Colton Pouncey is going to join us, beat writer for the athletic, going to
28:28
join us tomorrow on the Thursday edition of Lockdown Lions.
28:31
Hopefully, there's more news.
28:32
Hopefully, we're talking about some guys that Detroit has brought in here with some of
28:36
that money that they get back from the Jared Goffa Restructure.
28:43
So this has been a Wednesday edition of Lockdown Lions.
28:45
Thanks for being with us, everybody.
28:47
Check it out wherever you get your Pacheco.
28:48
It's, by the way, Jedrick Will's, remember, I mentioned Jed Will's X of the Browns, who
28:54
I didn't want the Lions to go after.
28:56
The big tackle is getting a one-year opportunity with the Chicago Bears, yes, touchdown bears.
29:03
So not coming to Detroit.
29:05
Talk to you again tomorrow.