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Amy Freeman, CEO and co-founder of The Spice and T Exchange, leads with a philosophy-rooted
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and servant leadership, community connection, and empowering franchisees to create locally
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relevant offerings while maintaining brand standards.
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Under her guidance, the company has expanded its loose-leaf, teaport folio to over 85 varieties
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and continues to innovate across culinary tea's regional blends and immersive retail experiences.
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This distinction reflects Amy's deep expertise in franchise development, operations, and
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brand growth, as well as her unwavering commitment to upholding the highest standards and best
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practices within the franchise community.
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Thanks so much, Amy, for joining us on this week's tea-biz podcast.
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Well, it is a pleasure to be here.
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It launched The Spice and T Exchange during the 2008 financial crisis and have since expanded
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to more than 90 locations.
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What leadership decisions or cultural principles allowed the brand to grow nationwide without
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losing the authenticity of the original shop?
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In 2008, I was in the process of selling a business, and I knew what was happening in
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the world with regard to the finance and banking situation.
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That chapter was clothing successfully, and I was really looking for what I was going
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to do next, and I walked into a little store in St. Augustine, Florida, and it was a sensory
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I discovered so many things, being cooking and being in restaurants and involved with what
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I thought at a time, a pretty good breadth of knowledge with regard to spices.
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I was able to open those jars and smell and taste, and before I knew it, I had $80 worth
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of spices on the counter, and these little innocent little baggies, and it just went off
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that this is something that I would never do in the grocery store.
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I would never buy $80 worth of spices.
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I had a tremendous amount of variety and a reasonable package that if I didn't like it,
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I wouldn't have to use it.
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I could toss it and go on to the next.
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That is how the spicy and tea exchange was going.
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Many U.S. specialty retailers struggled during the pandemic.
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Your franchise not only survived a continued growth.
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How did you manage that period operationally?
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The pandemic forced us to grow and really stretch.
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I had been saying that I am a franchise or first and foremost, and I serve the franchise
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I believe in servant leadership, that's truly my mission statement now with time to walk
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When the stores started closing down one by one, fortunately, I was at a meeting out
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in Utah with some very savvy franchise or CEOs, founders, and a lot of people who were
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very innovative and were quick and nimble to respond.
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I gained a tremendous amount of knowledge and realized that communication is king, and
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that if I could get ahead of this and communicate openly with my stores to tell them that I'm
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with you and telling them what we would do, clearly, concisely, and letting them know
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that they are safe and we are going to get through this together.
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We pivoted by everyone's e-commerce blew up or those who were fortunate enough to experience
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If you did well on e-com, it was going to grow exponentially.
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We gave the stores 20% of the revenues coming in from the website and we actually raised
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that to 30% for a certain amount of time, and we hand-wrote checks and sent them to
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them, sent the monies, the revenues from the stores, from the guests that they created
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from their great customer service who became members of our website.
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Then we added curbsides service, and then we stayed very, very slow but steady.
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Your stores are known for immersive retail, open jars, aromas, sampling, storytelling.
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What transforms this spice or t-shop into a memorable experience rather than just a place
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That sensory experience ties back to the reason we started this business and that is bringing
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back memories, educating how do you, how do you even make it a blend?
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Because so many people are used to eating it, but how is that made up, what are the ingredients
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It was a combination of sensory and education and inclusion, immersion.
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Every guest that comes in is a guest.
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We are welcoming them into the store and we needed to make sure that we understood the
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people who were coming in.
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There are people who are experienced, fights are shots.
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There are people who like to barbecue or grill.
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There are people who have never cooked or drank tea in their lives.
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There are young people, old people.
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The common denominator was make them feel safe and allow them to be part of the process.
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Whether that was touch, taste, smell, feel, talk, whatever it took.
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The beauty of our business is that you can take the jars, you can open them and smell
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And there's someone right there to ask and answer questions.
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Then we hand that jar over to the guest.
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If they're loving that aroma, we ask them to talk to why they like it to the next guest
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So, they feel like they're a part of this.
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Is that really opens people up and allows them to explore in a very different way?
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And I do believe that that is our secret.
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These store owners create small batches so they know every single ingredient that goes
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into those blends so they're able to talk about them intelligently.
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They know this has shallots, this has onions, this has salt, this doesn't have salt.
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So they're able to really be knowledgeable and so is their team.
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And that really allows freedom of exploration when people come in and say, you know, I have
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this ailment or I need this or I can't have that, well, we'll make it for you without
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Or let's move you over to this section and let's try that.
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So it really is a partnership with our guests.
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So it is a partnership with us with our franchisees and it's our partnership with our franchisees
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One distinctive element of your model is localized product development, regional blends tailored
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How does that work within the franchise system?
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So being the franchise or you have to have guardrails and you have to have rules and regulations.
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But more importantly than that, your franchisee or your employee, whatever direction you're
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going, has to understand those and know what those are.
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It doesn't matter if you have them, if they don't, they don't know, aren't trained,
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And so if you're going to scale, it's very, very important that you communicate, clearly
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and concisely and ask for responses back.
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Do you understand this?
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Do you have any problems with this?
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Is there any concern?
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Let's talk about this.
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For a franchise or it's really important to do that before they sign a franchise agreement.
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So we've become very good at that.
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So the process to become a franchisee of this spicy and tea exchange is a very long and
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And we are vetting, making sure that there are the right culture and mix for us because
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we feel that it's essentially a 10-year marriage.
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It's got to be right for them, equally, same for us.
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So with that being said, these guardrails are in place and then we start, let's learn
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all of our blends, let's make all of the blends, let's experience selling them.
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There's a wide array and it will cover most pallets, most needs, however, as we started
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growing, regionality became a thing.
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In every aspect, in tea, types of tea, you know, matcha caught on in California and the
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West Coast much earlier than it did on the East Coast, there are, you know, spicy, Cajun
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So there's all of these different things that are happening.
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And so we really said there's an art and a science to this business.
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Here's the science.
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We gave you the rules.
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Now here's the art.
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Let's see what your guests are asking for.
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We use all different types of research to see what is coming, what's trending, what's
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coming, the TV influences that, Instagram influences that.
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So our franchisees are the front line.
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And so they're starting to hear in these requests way before we do in Florida, in St.
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Augustine, Florida.
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So we listen to our partners and they say, everyone's coming in and they want the Nile
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You know, it's the latest greatest craze.
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All right, let's look at that.
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Is that sustainable in your area?
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Is that nationwide?
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Is this an isolated pocket that this is trending?
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I'll give you an example, prickly pear in Arizona, prickly pear tea.
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It's not going to go over in Peoria, Illinois.
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I guarantee you, but in Sedona and all of these stores that we have there, it's going
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We make sure that we perfect it.
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We make sure that the franchisey understands what they are selling.
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And we have a certain amount of wall space for them to have due to three products that
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And after 90 days, we see how the sales are going.
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And then we introduce it to the franchise system and say who wants to try this out.
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So we slow, we have a slow role.
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And then we decide whether that's going to be a limited time offer.
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That's going to be a staple on our show.
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And you know, then we give the franchisey credit if they create a blend or if they bring
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something in, they love that.
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It loves to boast and brag in 99% of the time, that regional area or store.
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That's their highest sale product.
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And they love to top that in the system and we give space for that to happen and we
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You're part of a growing group of women leading companies in tea and specialty beverages.
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And you see women altered for nerve shaping this sector.
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This is a very difficult question for me, but I wanted to really have this conversation
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with you where women led business.
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I grew up in a man's world.
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I'm very comfortable in that it's not a negative or a positive for me.
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I believe as women, for the most part, we are natural nurturers, business is hard.
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There's sometimes I wish I was a man or I wish I had more men because they just think
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differently than we do.
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And sometimes in very difficult situations, we need that, we need that blend.
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So being a woman run company, my business partner, Penny and I are not only, we did
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not know each other prior to this, but we are leading this company and we are the best
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of friends and we have a tremendous relationship and we lean on each other quite a bit.
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It's hard, like I said, it is difficult, but if you lean into your natural talents, I'm
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a mother of three, I'm a midwestern girl, I believe in integrity and I'm very humble
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and I believe in fairness.
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That's great, but what does it get you in business?
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I can lean into those talents and then I surround myself with people who have areas of expertise
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I will say, well, let's do this and I had to surround myself with people who are like,
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nope, this is the way we do it.
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Women have those capabilities.
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I do believe that women have an affinity with tea and they really are able to taste it
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and admire it and nurture it more so than men.
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I think a lot of men love tea and appreciate it, but I think this is a business that is
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easy for women to get into.
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It's fun to learn about.
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It hits the educational, the research, it's oldest time, there's a lot there, there's
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a lot of fulfillment.
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My company is not a women-led company by design.
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It just happens to be that way and I have tremendously strong, powerful women in my company
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