Stuck in Autopilot? Here’s How to Reprogram It

Why does so many people know exactly what they should do, but they keep repeating the same patterns?

So today we're talking about why change feels so hard, what autopilot behavior really is,

and how to find a reprogram, the system that is running your life.

So many people struggle with this, but really understand it at the root level,

but it can be incredibly frustrating. So why are we repeating these behaviors, reactions,

and emotional cycles, even though we know what needs to change?

Brian Osborne is here and he has the creator of Interior Design Your Mind, which is a framework

focused on helping people understand these unconscious patterns, driving their daily actions,

so change can become natural instead of forced. So Brian teaches that this is not about hype or

quick fixes. It's about understanding the system underneath everything and redesigning it from

the inside out. So Brian is really good to have you here. Thanks for being here today.

Well, thanks for having me. I'm excited. This is a big one. Even though I work on this stuff all

the time, this still comes up for me. It's like, I know what needs to change, but I just can't

seem to do it. I mean, a lot of people, even myself, sometimes blame it on discipline,

but you say that it's actually systematic. So what do you mean by that?

So first, I just want to say that one thing I tell everybody is that number one, you're not broken,

you're just programmed. So you have all the discipline, you know what to do. The world is full

of knowledge, but yet we tell ourselves, we're going to do something and then we just walk

right by it. Right. And it's not a discipline problem. It's just a habit that was built over time

that just became your pattern. I think how many times you look at the dishes and go, hey, I'm

going to go ahead and load the dishwasher and you just walk right by it. You spend more time

arguing with yourself that you're going to do it versus actually doing it. So discipline

isn't the issue. It's how your system responds to what you say. Yeah, I mean, I spent like

big month wrapping myself to do my taxes and like I just couldn't get myself to even begin.

It was like being in the spider flight breeze mode where literally six months and it began to

wear me out. So like I literally was developing like extreme anxiety about it. Even though I knew

what I needed to do, I had everything set up. I just couldn't find myself to do it. I feel like

this is really common with a lot of people. It's not that people don't want to change. They just

feel stopped. Correct. That's the what I call the cells of recognition. So if you don't have any

cells of recognition or what's going to happen, your body doesn't know how to respond to it. So it

picks out a particular pattern from the past that generates to the screen of your mind to say

this could potentially be the outcome or in the past, if you had a bad emotion or a bad experience

towards let's say taxes for instance, your mind and your body's going to dread doing it. So it's

going to delay it in order not to feel what you felt before because your body will get into that

shortly. But when you have that emotional experience, your body's going to try so hard not to

recreate it. So it will delay and delay and delay before you actually come down to the deadline

where you actually have to file them. Yeah. Exactly. And then it's like the mind is creating all

these worst case scenarios. So in this instance, it was the first time I'd ever done it on my own as

a full entrepreneur with a million receipts. And you know, my dad used to take care of it for me.

So it was completely what you said. It was just the, I know what what's going to happen. It's

going to be awful. I'm going to go to jail with all this stuff, like all these crazy thoughts.

And then like when I ended up doing it, sure, it took a long time. But the outcome was so different

than what my brain projected it to be. It wasn't that bad at all. And then you often

like conquer whatever it is that you're delaying. And then you just feel a so relieved after.

And being you said, they're wondering why you overcomplicated it so much, right? Against

the bizarre because your body craves the same chemical cocktail within your body, no matter what.

So for example, if you're so used to that comfort of somebody doing your taxes for you,

your body's used to that comfort. So it's trying to crave that comfort. But the fact that you

did it on your own, well, now your body doesn't know how to respond to it because it's a new

emotional cocktail within your body. So your body starts to go into panic mode. And when it gets

that new sensation, it starts generating pictures from the past to basically make the worst outcome.

But in reality, it's really not that bad. It's just your body's just so used to feeling a certain

way, which is just a looping pattern that I call. But once you break that loop and you introduce

a new chemical to it, things get crazy. Amazing. I can't wait to dive into that more. You use

the phrase autopilot behavior. So I'm just curious what you mean by that. What does that look like?

So I call an autopilot. My mentor used to call it paradigms, but they're all basically the same

thing. I mean, autopilot is just what you do on a daily without any thought whatsoever,

driving to work. You don't think about your route. You just drive. You could oh, now and still

end up where you're going to go. When you walk through your house, you're just on autopilot mode.

The environment around you, even though you don't see it, generates that autopilot within you.

So if you live in the same environment for so long, you don't change anything. That autopilot's

there. It's just the way we work. Our system learns their looping pattern. We go through the

motions. We call it a day and we live 95% of our day on autopilot. And unless you're aware of it

and aware of how to change it, you're not going to change it. Well, how long does it take to develop

these patterns? Like how do we? I've heard in the past that it takes 21 days to break up

pattern, but I'm not quite sure. I haven't seen any proof or evidence of that. But how long does

it take for a body to become familiar with something and then keep looping the same pattern?

I'll take an easy one. We'll do driving. If you take a driving to a new place, the first time,

you're paying attention at every turn, every little detail within that route. The second time,

you start remembering it. The third time, you're 90% there. The fourth time, you don't even need

in your GPS anymore. That's how fans, these habits are learned, especially the unknown,

the new ones that you are creating. They can be picked up within a day, within three days,

but to break them and to change them takes a little bit more process. But at the same time,

the first step is just awareness knowing that it is just autopilot, that there is no thought that

you're just going through the motions. When you get west in the morning, you don't think about

putting your right leg in first. You just do it. You don't think about brushing your teeth.

You just do it. You don't think about making coffee. You just do it. And the 5% of your day

is just on autopilot. So when you're so used to just walking past the dishes or the overflowing

trash can, you're just used to doing it. It's just handling it. Yeah, I was going to say,

why is that dangerous? Oh, it is without changing. It is dangerous because at the end of the day,

you're going to get the same results every day. If you're okay with the same results every day

and being upset at work or when you come home and seeing your house dirty, by all means,

but I myself, I had enough of it. And I want to know why I continue to walk back this same drop

zone of seeing nothing but clutter and just dropping things there versus taking the 30 seconds that

just put it where it needs to be. Right. And then it just drove me insane. And I wanted to know

why. So once I figured it out and did my research mentorships, I haven't looked back. My house

is always looking great now because once you free that up in your mind, your mind is now freed up

to do whatever it wants. So what? What role does like thoughts, emotion and body response work

together? Like how do they play a role in all of this? And when you that day, when you're like,

I can't do this anymore, what changed for you? And how did you start developing new patterns?

So one was the first thing that I always do and I try to tell everybody this is to change your

environment. To see your awareness, the first thing I always do is tell people to put your trash can

in a different area. Just move your trash can into a different spot. You will see how much

you're on autopilot because you don't think about throwing in the trash. You just walk over to

the same spot and you go to drop and then you realize it's not there. Oh, I tried to put it over

there. That's the first awareness. So once your environment begins to change, that's when you

start interrupting that looping pattern, that's when you can actually start to begin to change

what's going on. But to change that, because I know I take every six months, I go and rearrange my

house just to change up the system, the autopilot and just create new habits and kind of erase the old

ones at the same time because if it's not there, you don't have to fix it anymore because it's not

there anymore. Yeah. Right. So when it comes to the whole body, your mind, if your thoughts actually

controlled what you wanted, you'd already have everything you wanted. Yes. Well, they don't. So

the body is actually in control. Your nervous system is in control. Your brain just summarizes

everything that your body's telling it to. So when they when you get that alignment between the

brain heart and gut, everything begins to change. And if they were to stay in that place of

coherent. And I also noticed that when I try and change something, at first, like it feels

exhausting. Like every it's like, you're hit with so much resistance. You know, it's like, okay,

today I'm going to wake up and I'm going to go for a run and I'm wanting to do this forever. And

I finally do it. But all of it feels like it's so like I said, that you're hitting a wall of

resistance that you're swimming through mud. And you're like, I can do it. I can do it. But it

feels so challenging. It's nice. I tell everybody I was actually telling a client yesterday,

just be comfortable being uncomfortable. If you don't feel resistance, if you don't feel that

your body going, getting that butterflies and thinking about all the worst outcomes possible,

means you're not changing. But once you feel that resistance and all those thoughts coming to your

mind, good. That means you're breaking that loop. You're introducing a new habit. You're

breaking the old one. You just got to do it. That's the hardest part is just doing it because

that resistance is tough because your body's so used to going, oh, you want to go for a run?

No, we're not used to doing that. We're going to stay right here in our comfy nervous system

where we know how it's going to feel. And then it just doesn't, then you don't do it. You just

got to get, you know what? It is uncomfortable. But I'm going to go do it. And then you just start

doing it once, twice, three times your body goes, we're doing this now. And then it's going to feel

uncomfortable when you don't do it. But the hardest part is it's just doing it and breaking

through that. My mentor used to call it the terror barrier. You just got to not throw it.

Yeah. And it's always going to be there. Yeah. And I think a lot of people blame themselves.

The sad part about this is that we're so hard on ourselves. So to use the running example,

which is actually real, like I've been wanting to do that, but I haven't been, then it's like

it's automatic defeat. You know, you feel like you're so hard on yourself and you blame yourself

for not being able to do it. And then questioning why is it so challenging?

It's that's why I always tell people you're not broken. You're just programmed. You're not lazy.

You're just programmed. It's not really challenging. It's just your body's just not used to it.

And it does everything in its power to keep it safe, to keep it familiar. Your body does not

like change once it learns it hates it. But every habit was learned. So every habit can be unlearned.

Yeah. You know, for big examples, oh, kid is born into this world afraid of spiders. No,

they're not. It's a learned behavior. Same thing with money. Kids don't have any observant,

any recollection or any knowledge of money whatsoever, but that's a learned behavior.

That's within the autopilot. So everything is learned to a bigger extent. The problem is,

is that the body doesn't care if it's the big goal or the little goal. The big goal I want to make

seven figures, the little goal I want to learn to dishwasher. All it knows is, do we follow through

what we say we're going to do? No. Okay. Well, you got that big goal, but you also said you wanted

to load the dishwasher. Okay. We're not doing it. So then it's just basically changing your

nervous system biology to correspond with what you want and not what it wants.

I'm just going to ask you about the nervous system because you've mentioned it a few times. So

what role does the nervous system play in these behaviors becoming automatic or just to our life in

general? Well, the nervous system makes up your body, right? It's just you have multiple nervous

systems, but it controls your actions. When you begin to talk and you start moving your hands,

you don't think about moving your hands. You just do it, right? You don't think about breathing,

you just do it, right? So it controls your body and keeps you alive. But now to not try to get too

far ahead of myself, but I get so passionate when it comes to this, but nonetheless, right? So

your nervous system is controlled by your subconscious mind. And not many people know how to access

the subconscious mind, but the nervous system that makes up your body is accessed through there.

And how you access this is at nighttime when you go to sleep due to brainwaves, which I won't

get too in depth with that. But also with the nervous system and how to truly break it because I

want people to actually get exercises with this and not just more information since we have all

the information in the world. But at nighttime, when you're laying there, if you start breathing

through your nose, like many meditation individuals take part of, I always want to know why

breathe through your nose, right? But that's actually attached to your old factory system,

which then generates the emotion. That's why you could smell something and instantly be brought

back to your childhood. Hey, scrambles cookies or a candle or, you know, that smell of grass,

whatever it may be. But when you start thinking about it and you start breathing through your

nose, that you could actually change the emotion attached to that emotion as running that loop.

So to speak, thinking it has like, you know, you're introducing a new thing about like a racetrack

going around in circles that you're putting a new car in there to disrupt the flow. And eventually,

the car will take over first place and then next, you know, that's now the emotion that's running

the show as a little analogy. Yeah. So the nervous system, if we can control the nervous system,

then you can say we can change the outcome. Is that what you're saying? 100%. Because it's just a

simple nighttime routine that could change everything without you even realizing it. The problem is,

is people try to change in the middle of the day where they begin to argue with themselves,

but that's when your body's in full defensive mode. That's when your nervous system's going,

no, we're not changing, right? Because it has to do with brain waves at that point. So just as a

quick overview of that, from zero to seven, you're in delta and theta brain waves. And then,

as you get older, you start up making beta and alpha brain waves that controls your nervous system.

Every night, when you go to sleep, you access the data, delta and theta brain waves,

every night when you go to sleep, which is your subconscious mind, say,

it is a child zero to seven, that's absorbing all those habits from you that it integrates it

at nighttime in order to change the habit. So when you do it at night and not in the middle of the day,

where people start thinking about, you know, what else could go wrong? And then you lay there at

night thinking it was the worst day ever. What else could go wrong tomorrow? Well, your nervous

system is downloading that going, well, could go wrong tomorrow? Let's find out, right? But if you

go to bed and you don't think about the worst of your day, and you start thinking about what you

want to change the next day, that's when everything begins to change because everybody worries about

their morning routine, but it's actually the nightly routine before you go to bed that changes

everything. Interesting. What do you mean by that? Can you explain that a little bit more?

So if you go to bed, doom scrolling, your body is releasing dopamine stimulus. That's what you

want. So when you wake up in the morning, as you download that, the first thing you're going to do

is grab your phone and figure out what's going on in the world and you start doom scrolling

again first thing in the morning. That's not how you want to do it. If you start playing this

is the worst day of my life, can't get anywhere tomorrow. Your body's going, we're going to download

the bad parts. Okay. Because how you go to sleep is how you wake up. It's a carryover state. So

at night, your mind is just downloading how you feel at the end of the day. You wake up the next day.

Your body's already moving. You're already breathing. Your eyes are open. You have no thoughts yet,

but how you want to sleep is how you wake up. So the last thing you do is how you're going to feel

first thing the next day. Right. It's like dreading Monday morning. If you are going to a job that

you dislike on Sunday night, you're going to be like, oh my god, I don't want to go to work. And then

Monday morning is going to feel awful. Yep. But if you go to bed differently going, you know what?

I don't know how I got work tomorrow. I'm going to go ahead and make the best of it. You're

going to go to work tomorrow and you're going to have the best day. Right. People dread Mondays.

Love Fridays. I always love Mondays. Because to me, it's all downhill after that. Right.

Right. Another thing you say is that awareness comes before change. So why is awareness such a key

step in all of this? Well, you can't change something that you can't see. Right. You can't change

a light bulb unless you can actually see the light bulb. Right. You can't change the electricity

in your whole house without seeing what's behind the wall. It just doesn't work. You have to be aware.

You have an understanding of it, but you're not aware of what it is that's actually controlling

that behavior. So for an example, one of the big ones that I broke myself was that not completing

projects, which a lot of people I'm sure have the same one, but I want to know why I could not

complete a project and no offense to my father. But when I went that on memory lane, at every time

I went to go fix something, he always said, you're not doing it right. Let me finish it. So I actually

never learned how to finish a project. So then as I'm older and I do things, I don't still don't

know how to finish those projects unless I actually finish them. Right. So it's just like any

other thing. How many people can honestly say they finished projects before they move on to the

next one? Probably not many, because we all learned you're not doing it right. Let me do it.

And then you learn never to finish it. Right. I know the taxes for me, right? Like that's the

direct correlation to that as well as these learned behaviors. Yep. It's just I've never taught

how to do it. Yep. They're so subtle that you don't even realize that they're there.

But having the awareness that they're there and going, wow, why did I just do that? I don't

want to do that. Let me change that. And then you go, okay, I'm aware of the problem now. Now it's

just changing how my body reacts to that particular habit. So how do we observe our system without

that's always a hard one. Because again, it's not that you're lazy. It's just that you're

patterned. So to observe it without judgment is to realize that the only person who's judging you

is you. It's your life. It's your story. You're the star of your movie. The only person you need to

do it for is yourself. Nobody else but yourself. And you just got to just not judge yourself and

just go, you know what? I'm just going to go ahead and do it because it's going to benefit

me at the end. Right. Right. So let's give the audience something that they can tangible that they

can work with. What are some small things that someone can do to interrupt their autopilot without

trying to overhaul their whole entire life right away. Because that's how I am. I'm like, oh,

I'm going to change everything. But that never works. It's like the New Year's resolution, right?

You make all these big goals. And not at the end of the year, you feel defeated by it. So

what are some realistic steps that people can take? Realistic steps that people could take is

number one, change a trash can space in your home. Identify the autopilot within your house.

You're going to see it. You're going to realize it. And that's one simple change for you to have

that awareness. Another one, change your route to work. Change your route. Won't go the same way.

Your body's going to go the same way without thought. And you're going to see yourself going

your old way, even though you want to do a new way, still working on that one when I take my son

to daycare every morning. I go, I don't want to go this way. He starts calling the auto now going,

Dad, why are we going this way? Right. And I'm like, you're right. We started changing it. I just

went on my way. Wasn't even thinking about it. But then you start realizing that that you want to

go one way, which your body went the other way. And you just start realizing it. And it's just those

little tasks. First thing in the morning, because once you start realizing you're starting to do

that first thing in the morning, that's when you start picking it up for the rest of the day,

is when you start realizing those patterns. But unless you do it first thing in the morning,

your body's going to be on autopilot. That's why I always say, change your trash can in the morning

or change where your toothbrushes in the morning, change where your clothes are, and you're going to

see how much autopilot you are first thing in the morning. Because if it's the first thing in the

morning, imagine how the rest of your day is and always start with one small tests and complete

it. Don't go for the big one. Go for the little one. And then you start gradually growing because of

a hundred million little ones. Count a whole lot more than just one big one. So like,

making your bed in the morning and like, just little wins. Is that what you're saying?

Just little wins to see how much autopilot you're truly on. Because once you're aware of it,

you can change it. But you can't change something that you're not aware of. And it's not that people

are lazy. You're just programmed. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was driving the same route to my yoga class,

the other day. And for some reason, I just was inspired to look around. And I literally drive that

real like every single day sometimes twice a day. And I'm like, has that been here the whole time?

Because I've never noticed it. And it was so bizarre to me. I'm like, I literally drive by this

every single day. And I've never seen it before. And then that opens my mind up. So what else am I

missing out on? Right? Because it's like we developed these blinders by these patterns that we

develop. And we're not seeing everything around us. Yeah. It's just, it's amazing how much

your eyes see without you actually seeing it. You take landmarks, certain times, distances,

and everything else. I mean, I helped somebody that wanted to stop smoking in their car. And I

said, okay, which way do you drive to work? Do you like that cigarette up into same location,

the same intersection every time? And you're like, yeah. I'm like, change your route. Change your

route. Your body will be like, Oh, this is different. This is not where we usually do this. And

then you'll stop. But it's just doing those little things that most people don't realize that

truly make the biggest difference. People break through the fear and the anxiety,

because I know a lot of people who even going to a new location for an event. I have a friend

that her son plays hockey. And every time she drives to a new arena, she has so anxiety about

the drive. Where am I going to park? How, like, how does someone begin to view newness as exciting

versus anxiety driving? Well, one thing that I always tell people is one, when you do that,

it's just a fear of the unknown. It's okay. You don't know until you get there. That's okay,

because you don't know until you try it. Right. When it comes to that fear base and that anxiety,

it's just your body not used to going somewhere, it doesn't know. Despite how many times you've

done it, your body just doesn't know how to handle that new, introduced chemical being released by

your brain to actually control that particular outcome. But everything's far more worse or so

much better. Our thoughts are so much worse than what things actually are. But it's that fear of

the unknown, not having those cells of recognition that drive into your body going, nope, we don't

like this feeling. We're not used to it. You know, think of it, your brain heart and gut being in

a group chat together and just arguing back and forth. Nothing's going to get solved. But when

they're aligned, that's when everything starts to begin to change. So we also talked about

before we started recording about how the body holds on to these situations that are

learned. So the body holds on to these situations until it doesn't. How do we begin to release

that? And what does it take? What was your experience like when you realized, oh my gosh,

I was a learned behavior from my childhood. How do you go back and essentially rewrite the script?

Well, one, I like the fact that you said release because that's one keyword that I always use

with individuals because you can't lose it or try to forget about it because we're taught

something's lost. You got to go find it. Right. So you have to release it. But the biggest thing

that I tell people to do is the only thing holding you back is you. Meaning, if you want something

bigger, if you want to do something more, you have to be willing to give up who you already are.

So for example, if you want to start a business or you want to get things done around the house,

you have to be willing to give up that individual that loves to watch Netflix or loves to doom scroll.

You have to be willing to give up that individual, that loop, that habit in order to create a new one

and release the old one. Is it kind of like developing a new identity in a way?

To an extent more so. Yes. So for example, I did this, I think it was a year and a half ago,

two years ago now, where I was really busy, didn't get time to do it. And I always always grew up

as an individual that you don't call somebody to fix it. You just go and fix it yourself.

Right. So when my brother and little shout out to him, came over and started doing some projects

around the house. It ate me up inside because that's not who I was. That's not who I was. So I sat

there at night and went through my nightly routine because I know it works. And I released that old

part of me that no longer served its purpose, that it's no longer who I am. And I went through a

for lack of a better term grieving process, where I didn't feel right because my body didn't know

what to do. That's how I knew it really took effect. And now I have no problems. People coming over

to fix my house, I'm grateful for it because now I get that time back. But but yes, it's more so

releasing that identity that is holding you back to create a new identity that you want.

The feel like when your body is going through the process, so you release what you want,

but then your body still needs to process it. So what does processing look like?

So think of it as a bunch of balls dropping and having nowhere to go within your body.

So it will start releasing it, whatever chemical is attached to it, whatever past the

motion is attached to it. And start trying to create and get into other particular loops and

habits within your body, generate past the memories, try to create new habits with it because it's

trying to figure out where it fits. And so you actually get it through your body going, you no

longer serve me. And then I'd say probably about three days, it's probably the usual grieving

process. And next thing you know, it's gone forever. It's not easy. I'm not going to lie,

but it's doable. And you can actually create a bulk that you want. I was just going to say,

so what happens to the body when we start to let go of these things? What is being free from our

minds look like? So the small ones are easy. You can load the dishwasher there while thinking.

That's not hard. But when it comes to the bigger ones, once you release it and you become who you

want to become and you lose that part of your identity, it is the most exhilarating moment because

yes, you may have lost that identity and released it. But at the same time, you're giving birth to

a new identity, one that you can create, one that you can have the habits of. So it's basically

creating because we are creators, the person who you want to become and have the habits that you

want to become and releasing the habits that are holding you back to becoming who you want to be.

So many even celebrities, performers have alter egos that they've created so that they can conquer

what they're looking to conquer. And so I think it's so powerful to recognize that everything

is a story that we're telling ourselves and be able to look at everything from an outside

perspective and be unattached to outcomes. And I mean, we all like to relate ourselves and

say, if you ask someone what they do for a living, people will tell you that they're, you know,

I'm a CEO of this company. But if you ask people who they are, they often don't know how to

answer that. And I think learning how to answer that part is so empowering. And I think it's

becoming more important. The world is shifting and more and more people are asking themselves exactly

that who am I? AI has come in and taken away so many jobs and people are being forced to do this

work. That's why this work that you're doing is so helpful for people because if they get ahead

of it, it's going to make it so much easier in the future because things are just beginning to

change in such a major way. Yeah, I mean, the world is saturated with nothing but information,

nothing but cladels, nothing but, you know, what you're aiming for. But the other question that

most people that I'm going to say who I am is the most asked question, but not the most important

one. The most important question is what do I want? Because not many people know what they truly want.

They just go through the motions. But when you ask yourself, what do I want? You have vacations

pop up and the new house pops up. But at the same time, is that what you want? And then you got

to ask yourself, why do I want it? Do I want it for mayor? Do I want it for the title? Do I want

it to look good for other people that I have this nice house? Why do you want it? Because if you can

say you want it because of you, then you're golden. But if you do it for outside reasons,

you're never going to get it. You got to do it for yourself. So it's what do you want? And why do

you want it? Yeah, so that clarity piece becoming really clear on the things that we're doing and why.

And nine times out of 10 people have a fear of what they want. You know, so many people want success,

but they're actually really afraid of it. So many people want financial freedom, but they're

actually afraid of it. Breaking these patterns can open up other patterns, right? So what is some

process of healing actually look like in reality? It's just releasing who no long, which identity no

longer serves you. Nobody has a fear of success. What they have is a fear of unfamiliar of losing an

identity within themselves. Anybody can become anything. The world is full of knowledge. You can

learn anything within a weekend, especially with AI now. But what it doesn't teach you is how to

change your actions. And that is where the most important part is because at the end of the day,

we go through the motions and we don't even think about what we want. We don't think about how to

change it. We try to manifest all these thoughts and what you truly want. We create the vision

boards and write the affirmations. But if that worked, you'd already have it by now.

The only thing that's holding you back is your body holding on to that identity, that habit,

that belief. But once you learn how to not only have the awareness of it, but how to change it,

that's when everything begins to change. So you'll be going through the process each and every day.

So tell us more about the work that you do and how you can help people transform their lives.

So I broke this down to a 12 step system that can change your nervous system without any extra

effort. Meaning that the way it is designed is to do it during your underutilized time. Meaning

driving to work. Don't listen to the music. Listen to the program. Nightly routine. Do not doom

scroll. Listen to my nightly routine. It's all within your underutilized time. And then what I

started doing as well recently is I started making command blocks where you put it in an area of

your house that you want fixed, whether it's the drop zone, little command up there that says,

hey, drop it here now. You'll pick it up later in just little commands. Stop arguing with

yourself. Just load the dishwasher. Just little commands that you read that help break that loop

in real time, because information is great, but it doesn't stick. It doesn't break it up in real

time. I focused on those real time moments that actually create change. Beautiful. I'm thinking

to stick you know, it's everywhere. Right. That's how I started. I want to go to core because

your body during the day in those brain states are the autopilot stays and it's just protecting who

you are. But once you read something and notice something different like you did on your car ride,

that's a pattern that's starting to break and interrupt in real time. So when you have those

little commands, it's lock and buy it, putting something into a sink, reading it because it's

going to catch a corner of your eye because it's something new, not familiar within the environment.

You go, yeah, you write and then put it back into the dishwasher right away or the drop zone or

the office bedroom wherever you may be. I got pieces for everywhere, even like little tv remote

ones where you put a wrapper or my remote going, this is where you usually fail. Don't do it.

Nope, not going to turn on the TV. Let me go complete what I need to complete. Then I'll come back

from my stimulation dopamine head. Yeah, for sure. So where can people find out more information

about the programs and everything that you do? So everything that I do, I mean you can visit

interiordesignyourmind.com or leadwithbrine.com. But for this particular one, we're going to do

interior design your mind because it's not coming in and demolishing your nervous system and

buying new things. It's utilizing what you have to create a space in which benefits you. So instead

of keeping the couch in your in the same spot, watching TV, we're going to move things around

a little bit and create that space in which you're in control of and utilizing what you have.

So interior design your mind is where you could find all that amazing. So what is something that

you want the listeners to take away from today's conversation and also speak to the people there

that are just feeling really overwhelmed and helpless. So a few things that I would say is one,

again, you're not broken. You're just programs and you don't rise to your goals. You fall

to your patterns. So despite wanting everything and despite what you think and all the positive

thinking and you know, how many times did people think, hey, I want to go ahead and hit the lottery.

But you never do. You play anyway, but you never do. Some people have. Don't get me wrong. But

if your thoughts control that, you would have already done it. It's your body that's in control.

Not your brain. So you're not lazy. You're not broken. You're just programmed. And the first step

is awareness, which in interior design your mind.com, you can get the lesson one for free to understand

the awareness. Amazing. And I like the realistic, like what you mentioned about time, like things

take time. And I think the most important thing is if we just do one little thing every single day,

just to move the needle, then you sort of build that momentum. But it definitely can be done. And

I just think that humans need to be not so hard on themselves because we tend to just beat ourselves

up over things like the way that I talk to myself. Sometimes I would never dare talk to anybody

like that. That's so important. So I think that awareness piece is key to unlocking all of the

future things, right? So we'll make sure to have that all in the show notes for the audience as

well. Thanks much for being here. Do you have any last minute thoughts you want to leave the

audience with? Yeah. So I'm glad you brought up time because this does take time. And unfortunately,

right now our habits and our culture and environment is all about same day shipping and having information.

We want it. Amazon's not quick enough for us. Right. But that's what we are expecting now.

It's to order something and have it on our doorstep like that. It's a scene process where people

try to change. Like days, usually it's two days. Yeah, it's bizarre. It's crazy. So you expect it

right away. So when you change, you expect it right away. But you can't go to the gym and expect

the six pack abs within the first day. No, it takes time. You can't, you know, expect to change

your body and have it the next day. Doesn't work down. Everything takes time for change. We're just

so conditioned and have the habit of same day delivery. But that's not the reality of it. And that's

where most people bail is because they don't see the change instantly. Yeah, for sure. For sure.

Well, Brian, this has been such a great conversation. Thanks again for being here. And I look forward

to developing the series more and going more in depth on all of the work that you do. Thanks for

having me. This was a lot of fun. I'm glad to get this awareness out there. Absolutely. It'll

definitely help so many people. And thank you to our audience for showing up and for listening.

This conversation definitely reminds us that real change isn't about becoming someone overnight.

It's about understanding what is running in the background and rebuilding trust with yourself

and creating a new internal system that actually supports the life that you want. So to learn more

about Brian, Osborne and interior design your mind, you can check out the links in the show notes.

And if this resonated with you, feel free and please share it with someone that you feel it would

benefit from because I think so many people are struggling with this. I mean, I struggle with it

all the time and I'm aware of it. So pass it on to someone who might benefit and come back for the

next episode. Thanks everybody. Have a beautiful day.