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40 season, but for key rounds, we're going to be doing them. We did one for Las Vegas, which we

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Hello, and welcome everybody to another edition of the buy-around. I am James Graham,

joined by Luke Carey. Before we get into the episode, please do like and subscribe if you haven't

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that Patreon. Have a look around. We've also had a great episode of the fan round table with all

three teams represented getting the two points. So maybe a bit of a coincidence there.

Manly, we're always getting the two points. But hey, ho, we've also got the buy-around with

thanks to Mac as the top 99 players in the game. First episode of that is dropping this week's

of state, tuned for that. Kes, that's a big introduction for all things buy-around. What

happening on the show produces Charlie White as well. Came in his shirt, looks very, very,

very dapper, very smart. Obviously he's had a TV appearance this morning. There's no reason to

dress as well as he has. Maybe he's come from last night. You're hearing he's gone straight through

now. No, he's definitely not. Unfortunately, that's not. He has lost his pass for the car park,

though, but that's for Wednesday's show. Kes, how are you going, Matt? How's the week being?

Yeah, good. Big weekend. First call with Emma Lawrence on Saturday.

Yes, how was it? Awesome. Yeah, she was awesome. Yeah, good. I didn't do any of the rehearsals

with her. Would she, would she did? But yeah, she was awesome as like, refreshing.

Yeah, she was awesome. She did really well. And how are you finding your

new life in your media? You know what? I didn't know. I obviously dabbled in it while you're

playing, but it's so different when you're playing. Like, you know, you go on different shows

every now and then, and you've really got to watch what you say. Everything you say,

all you're thinking about is everyone, all the boys would be listening to me. You know,

to walk into the change rooms tomorrow and they're all going to give me shit. You've got your guard

up there. You do. Yeah. And you're protecting your own club. You're still really competitive and you

don't like everyone else. I'm actually really enjoying it. I've always watched every game of

footied. I've always been massive footied. So none of that's changed, but even just being able to

really look deeper into the game and not be competitive. You know, when you watch it as a play,

when you go, you're just trying to break team down and figure out ways to beat him and why

you're better than him and things like that. But now I just can like really enjoy it.

Yeah, I'm loving it. Yeah. I'm loving meeting everyone too and working with different people and

how they think about the game and talk about the game. But you know what, I can relate to you

like watching the game in a certain way. A few things that we bought up last year. The short kick

is on. I was watching Paramata against Dragons yesterday. Paramata lead that front line.

So vulnerable. Like they put maybe there's three covering that 10 and the side that they don't kick

to. There is a huge amount of space and I'm just going just, you know, you're set up to kick to

the left and then the right hand side just, no, no, just get someone else to just grub it in.

You're going to get the ball back. Like there is so much opportunity for the short kick.

You didn't say when you were playing. No, I used to always be a for it, but unfortunately,

I've never got my license. I don't want to listen. But honestly, not the short kick off the

contestable kick. The short sneaky grubber kick regather is on all the time. They absolutely all

the time. There's so many teams that are just so blasé and they're just not ready for when it

for it. It really is. It happened. I reckon it's calculated risk that if you can, as long as you get

a good execution on the kick, you're getting the ball back. 100%. It's interesting. And then on

the media front, you talk about having your guard up. Last week, we spoke about Jake Trubović

and his thought process. Well, I was, you know, Googled NRL news like I often do. And I saw

this article pop up and it was like NRL play out or former NRL player calls for Jake Trubović

to retire. I'm like, oh, from that chat last week. Well, so I've gone literally gone.

The effort of said that. That's a big statement to make click on it. It's like, it's me. I'm like,

no, I didn't. I read the article. Like, at no point do I use the word retire? Like, no point

did I use that? I don't know. I don't know if it was on a couple of websites. It was such poor

journalism. Like, they're basically, no, that chat wasn't a bit. No, it wasn't. At no point

did we say, and obviously, you know, with last week, with Gordon Talison Badel and we talk about

how certain journalists have got angles and they that spoke to people for certain clubs,

but this is just poor journalism. I had it with Peter Fitzgerald Simon's where he took my

words out of context. I didn't enjoy that. I'm happy to be criticised, but not misquoted or misrepresented.

Yeah, the chat was definitely wasn't about that. No, it wasn't. So completely taking out of context,

clickbait, like just, yeah, not our game and journalists should be better. But a few things have

I've caught my eye in terms of the game and the officiating. A lot of talk about the

60 games and how that's affecting the product. Because, I mean, I've sort of come to the conclusion,

the game isn't 4X pros. And I even read some comments by Cameron Munster and I thought, like,

yeah, we've got to care about what the players think. But the game really, it's played by the players,

but it's for the fans, you know, that's going to dictate the product fundamentally. But my

gripe isn't with the 60 games. I think teams can adapt and teams can change. I think we've seen

a big change this week, too. They're always going to stamp their authority. And I actually like it

because I want to like it. But I think it is necessary in terms of you send that message to the

clubs at the start of the year and go, this is what we expect. We want a game that looks like this.

And then you pull back on in a bit and clubs adapt. And we've seen it this week. I don't know,

the numbers, but I reckon there would have been a lot less. And you felt there wasn't those huge

swings where there was five, six, seven in a row. So I do agree with you. But those two things,

and not what's concerned me for the game, the two moments I'm referring to, one is the potential

A point try that was given to the West's Tigers, but the trail Mitchell's attempt in dislodging the

ball. I don't think that should have been given as a potential A point try. I say this because

no point with any of the West Tigers players claimed for that. Nobody in the coaching box would have

thought that that was going to happen. I don't think any X pro, many Tigers fans watching that game,

any neutral, any sales fan watching that game would have gone, hey, that's, or we can see we're

going to consider a potential A point try here. It was, in my opinion, it was an act of a try save.

Now we've seen some incidents as highlighted this year of fallbacks coming in and using their

feet in the knees. Now I'm happy for those to be awarded a potential A point try because that's

that's usually your feet. You know, it's a no-go area. But in the act of trying to save a try,

if you, what I would deem accidentally make minimal contact with the face or the head,

then that's play on because you can't discourage freaky try saves. Like, you just can't

discourage that. Yeah, I don't, it shouldn't have been, I don't think it should have been an

eight point try, but he got it wrong a little bit. Put him on report. Yeah, I don't think it's

remained. He got it wrong a little bit. He touched him on the face. Yeah. And everything,

everyone gets touched on the face now as a penalty. Yeah. So by the letter of the law,

they probably got it right. A fair play while someone's trying to score a try. It's an eight point try.

But I just think we opened up a huge can of worms and people will talk about, oh, consistency.

I think, no, let's not be consistent with that. Let's just rub that out. That's because there's

going to be some big gain. Like, thankfully, the Tigers didn't win by two, which, and they were

bloody close to winning by two, had Luai and Dewey, maybe knock on off injured. Maybe they do win

by two. And the spotlight comes on them. We can't have games being decided by that. I just think

it's a bad look for our game. Like, eight point tries should be such an irregular. Very rare.

I think it is rare. It is. But if that one is an eight point try or a potential eight point

try should use that term correctly, then we open up. And we also open up players claiming for it,

which I don't particularly want to see. Like, then going to the ref, well, he hit him. There was

file play involved in the after scoring. There's going to be a potential eight point try.

I don't want to see them. And then, so look, the NRL, I don't want to see consistency with that.

Just don't do it unless it's a legs coming in, fair dues, or an actual deliberate act, which

doesn't look like it. So there's a difference between going to whack the your orientation of your

hand, like north to south, you're going to whack the ball. But if you go east west, that is dangerous.

If that makes sense to the listeners, obviously, if you're watching on YouTube, you can see my hand

movements that north south down to whack the ball out versus east west coming across, like that

the head. You go into towards the head. So I think there's some things that you can look at there.

And then second of all, this is the one. This is the one they got me. The penalty try. He's so far out.

It's not even close to a penalty draw. It's not easy. No. To be honest, it's probably a professional

fair, but it's more of a line. It's borderline because he would have, he wouldn't have been

able to see it. It would have, he would have gone for 10, but it's nowhere, not even in the

ballpark of a penalty draw. Happy to see Jaden Schuersent to the Simmin then. I'm okay with that.

I think that's the right call. What a penalty try to be awarded to Joan of Peasant in that

situation. I thought it was a nearly afford pass, too. Well, you've got that to consider as well,

which we can't adjudicate on with the bunker, but I just don't know how they've

summed up that situation. And the words to the effect of, in our opinion, he scores.

It's like, no, we, no, he doesn't. He's a good 7-8 meters away from the trial line.

Yeah. Gatham has come across. He's got players to be, he's got to catch the ball. He's got players to

beat. It was, it was a bizarre decision, a bizarre decision to be awarded.

Yeah, I think everyone was surprised. I think Kui Pekronk was in the Foxcom show. I heard

you boys on Triple M. It was, it was, it wasn't a right call. Yeah. I think they'll come out today,

hopefully, and hopefully. That's another one that dragons, when they still would have been punished

with having 12 on the field, but you look back to Vegas, they had a few tough decisions and

that decision. Then all of a sudden today, we're speaking about Shane Flanagan being under pressure

and they're owing through. But these are things that matter in club. Like, you know, for us as fans

and media people, it's not as big of a deal, right? Yeah, it's not as big of a deal, right?

We just move on to, on to Monday, but these countries, their lives, their livelihood depends on it.

Yeah, this, this, you know, people this week, we put him under pressure.

He could eat, they could easily tune one. And they had Melbourne on the ropes with 15 to go.

They're on three. Yeah, you're right. These are the, the small things that compound.

And now they're, they're, yeah, they're on three and they've had a tough start.

Draw wise. But like you say, they could be two and one. I'm not sure on their next block of

fixtures, but they play, they play the Titans this weekend. Yeah, both. Oh, and both. Oh, and

three, somebody's oh, has got to go. But the wrong way around. And a boxing phrase, I think,

when normally when fight when fighters are underfeated, they're always got to go. But somebody's

oh, has got to go in terms of you get off the, you get off the, um, you get your fist win off

the rank, but again, like it does add to the pressure and the pressure, pressure to perform.

Like the, the dragons of, I've had a grinding approach, a couple of moments of brilliance,

that right edge is looking really good, like Atkinson and, and what they're sort of starting to build

over on that right hand side of the field. Um, you know, we're going to talk about them a little

bit later on, but I don't know if the dragons win that game. Yeah. If that penalty tries and given,

but it's a little things that little things add off and, and then it compounds with pressure,

because if the dragons play like they did in the opening three rounds, they should beat the Titans.

Yeah, but a lot of psychological effect of being 0 and 3 and now is, they'll be, we have to win

this game. It's not about performance. Yeah, it's about having to win this game, which is a,

which is a different approach psychologically going into a game. Charlie, I'm a bit nervous to

ask you this question. Um, what I'm going to anyway, have you had of the five p's? Now please

treat this ad with respect. Uh, what people place person. Uh, no, I don't know what the five

p's are. It couldn't be proper preparation that prevents poor performance. Could it do you?

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It helped me just on the weekend, Jimmy, when I saw tolu cooler had scored in every one of his

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the show notes. Just on that eels dragon's game, we're going to get a clip from Coach Riles,

who had this to say regarding the ACL injury to eels forward, Jermaine Hopgud.

Those tackles like 99.9999% of the time they don't, the bullies don't mean it.

Okay, so it's not intentional. But unfortunately, you keep throwing fatigue into the gaming,

you keep making them tighter and tighter and tighter and tighter, they happen. So that's

the reality and you just got to practice and mitigate it as much as you can and hope that it doesn't happen.

So Riles basically, referring to the injury of his accidental, but the causation being

fatigue. I've looked at the numbers, Ryan Kouchman, into the game at minute 19.

The offense was committed at minute 27. So I, I don't think Rosie thought about that actual

incident when he said that. Like, I don't think he thought about, oh yeah, how long was he

on there? He's not very fatigued. I think he's just referring to the same issue, we've spoken

about, same issue, everyone's spoken about first three weeks. The increase in the six games,

the increase in the ball, ball imply it's adding fatigue to the game. The wrestlers going out,

they're policing the rock a lot harder. But yeah, as a, like you said, I tend to disagree with

them because our product is as good as I guess. Like last year, I thought it was outstanding.

They've gone too hard early, but I'd rather them go too hard than too soft and you see these

stop-start-y games, slow-rucks, things like that. So he's, I think he's referring to

that issue, which I don't think was an issue, yes. I don't think he's an issue that. I don't think

fatigue caused that tackle or caused the action from Ryan Kouchman. I think it was

more just pure, unlucky and just making that. There's a technique thing, like when a bloke's doing that

in your role, you purposely roll down the back to get him to the ground. And I know that they coach

him now not to do that. So I think it's a mistake from, he'll get suspended. You can call an accident,

but everyone knows now you can't do that. It will be likely, at time of recording, the

charge isn't out, but it likely will be looking at a number of weeks on the sideline. Look,

injuries are going to happen in a collision sport. And if the game is sped up, then I think that

maybe probably leads to an increase in soft tissue injuries. And like Kouchwell said, that fatigue,

factor injury, but then if the game's too slow, it leads to, you know, a different style of

injury because you've got much bigger bodies with much greater force. So there's no, there's no

perfect solution. It injuries are going to be a part of a collision sport. It just is what it is.

And there's no, there's no silver ballets out there that I feel is like waiting for Peter

Valandes, Andrew Abdo, the commission to go, or next year when we were review, we're going to get

this pay effect. And we're going to please ex pros, players, fans, coaches, we're going to be

completely injury free game. The product's going to be even better than it's ever been before.

It's just, it's just a nature of the beast. I think we're in a good spot. I'm with you. I think

we are in a good spot. We'll get into that eels dragon's game. Look, Para come back from Brisbane,

full of beans, full of confidence. They were a bit underwhelming yesterday,

but our attention goes to the dragons who start the season 0 and 3.

For me, I said before about the right hand side, starting to get a little bit of joy there with

Atkinson, Sua and Holmes, but they were crying out for some x-factor. Jacob Little came into the

game, not really sure if Cork was injured because when I looked at the dragons last year,

they looked their most dangerous when Cork and Little were on at the same time. It was a straight

swap Cork for Little, so not sure what Coach Flanagan was thinking there, or maybe perhaps an injury,

but the dragons are screaming out for x-factor. They've got Tyrol Sloan, who's playing in reserves,

who I think is an x-factor style of player, doesn't seem to fit in Coach Flanagan's plans.

What was your assessment of the dragons? It's hard to be super critical of them,

because I actually think they've been fairly good to start the year. I thought they were really

good in Vegas, obviously, when not much went their way, then I thought they were actually for 60

minutes he ends Melbourne. They were the better sort they were in front. Until Clint Gatham went

off for the HRA. And Melbourne's x-factor player ended up winning the game. I do agree with it. They

need something. They need a player who can just create some stuff out of nothing, or take advantage

of some stuff. The Atkinson Flanagan comment, I think Atkinson's doing really well. It's funny,

Flanagan's got the six on his back, but as soon as they get to hand in the good ball,

he's actually playing half back for him. If you watch him closely, he's on ball in the middle of

the field. Atkinson plays as a 5-8 down there. They're playing a lot of these tip passes, where Flanagan

will get it and either tip it on the Gatham or Atkinson, and then they'll play with their centre

and back row. It's been successful from their scored a few tries. Atkinson put his back

row through yesterday, but I tend to think did swap it back over and put Atkinson on. Flanagan

has a running six, but it's probably not his biggest strength, but they need a little bit more

out of Flano in terms of creating stuff, I think. I think Gatho is going to be Gatho. He's

going to have to play, he's going to set some tries up for you, which he has done to start this

year. He's going to be everywhere. I feel like he's their heart and soul, but they need a little bit

of X factor. They need someone. You said that started the year. The close games is what they

lost last year, and it'll be their killings here again, which is why you weren't too high on them.

Well, yeah, you go to Vegas and losing by a point, and they were good, but they still had

chances to win it there if someone got it together. I'm even fast forwarding a little bit here.

Sharks played Dolphins. I thought the Dolphins were the better team. In the last 10 minutes,

they blew them away, but it was X factor style of players, which I think

those teams that are equal, those are the players that are making the difference in the result,

deciding the result. I thought about this from a Dragon's perspective and go,

do you wait until next year? You've got Keon, Colombo, Tangi coming in, who's going to strengthen

their forward pack even more? We're going to get more games into both the Calcium and Boys

Stuart Egan. They're going to be better again, becoming those 50 gamers. Do you have a scout about

the league now, and the club that springs to mind, the player that springs to mind,

is the Titans with an oversupply of X factor style players, and the person who I think would be

the natural target would be AJ Brimson. That's a good chair. Do you go and explore his availability?

Probably, I even thought about would the sharks do that? I don't know because I think

Trindle and you'd be hard to move on Trindle or Hines, and I don't know if AJ is going to come as a

14 to the sharks, but I think coach finally going to maybe paraphrasing him. I'm sure he's on record

as St. Kyle's a 14, and he's our 14. Whether or not you can have... He did say that at the start,

whether or not you can have little and Kyle on... Maybe on a six-man bench, yes, and Kyle covers

that heart area, or you account for injury and whatnot, but do the dragons go and knock on the

Titans door and say, look, clearly you've got an oversupply, you probably need something different

here. We'll bring AJ in. He becomes our X factor style of player, and a person that can break

your game open. Yeah, I think the answer's right under there, no, I think it's Kate Reed.

Really? I do. I think he needs time, no, I don't think it's now. I wouldn't do it. I think he's

the long-term answer for him. Yeah, that's right. I think he's got X factor. I think he's showed in

that trial, he can create stuff from nothing, he's a competitor. I spent a few people who follow

those juniors, and they said he carried... I think it was Iloir, our team,

well, St. George team, one of them through SG Ball, they just need to develop him right and get

him in, and I think when he does come in, he's their seven, and Adkinson moves to six, which

I think would suit him just a little bit better. You think 2027, we'll see that change.

I think a year in reserve grade, from what I saw in that one trial, you'd hope he's ready to go.

You'd hope he's nearly ready to go, bring Keon in. Yeah. Do you think maybe, I like what you've

said, though, I like that idea of how if they think that that's the one thing they need right now

to get them into the finals, go and ask the question, because there is that feeling there at the

time. I'm just going to look up AJ Brimpton's age. He's signed to the end of 2030, but I mean,

he's 27 now, signed on a long time deal, but I mean, look, I don't know if the Titans would be

massively disappointed to see him leave, it would free up a lot of space. Maybe you're talking

about K-Dread there and the plan for the future. It's hard to know exactly what

best position suits AJ. Does he maybe even come to the club as a fallback and you move

Gotherson into 5A? I wouldn't be moving. That's a Taro slide. He's not a better player

in Brimpton. He may have some attributes that make him can create a little bit more in certain

situations, but he's nowhere near. I mean, if you bring AJ down to the club, you put him at six

for now, and then you look at an off-season region, maybe Gotho finds a home in the centres.

Yeah, I don't know if that's the answer for him. Is he really going to give him that?

AJ, do you think he takes them to the next? I don't know if he takes him

into becoming premiership contenders, but I think he improves the chances of victory, especially

what I'm identifying. He's got to play 5A, I think. Yeah, but maybe with an eye on the future,

Gotho into his thirties, very difficult to maintain that level that he has known for so long.

I just think the dragons are crying out for him, and I think he's the obvious candidate.

Even Cooke, he's going to sign a one-year extension. They're going to have to make some moves at nine,

where the little lap will become that starting now. It remains to be seen, but I think it's crying out

for that, and he's the obvious candidate, and we're looking at the stats here, last year,

lost 10 games by less than 10, and inability to close out those close games. I mean,

Coach Flanagan is looking to assemble a roster, like he did at the Cranola Sharks,

to go and try and win a premiership. I think the dragons are quite a way off that,

and as he's assembling this squad, he's got the young forwards, and they will become

experienced. He got that experience, but he also had X-Factor, we're thinking of Benny Barber,

Jack James Maloney, Jack Bed, players that can just... They are homes.

But, yeah, players that can just do these incredible individual feats. I think that's...

Just watching them live, I've watched them live without two games in a row, and that's exactly what

they've missed. Have they said, I'm pretty sure he's come out and said they're close to signing?

Was it one or two international players? He's publicly said that, right?

Two franchises. Two franchises. I don't know if he's saying this, or Keon's won.

Was it before that? No, it was two more. Two more.

So it might be, it might be a Brimson. Here, they're obviously speaking to someone,

or people, where they think they're... What about, really?

Jureen Buller would be another who's not taking up that option today.

I think they... I reckon they know exactly what you're thinking, you're saying right now,

and they're making moves in the back row, but it's easier said than done.

That stuff. I'll tell you what, go to the Titans and they go, no way.

And then you go to the next one, you know what I mean?

Yeah, I think the Titans need to make a call there.

But then you look at them and go, what do they do?

Put Elias there. Yeah.

Really? For now, yeah.

Well, they've got Cam... Well, Campbell,

Brimson, Keanu Keeney. The three lads that want to play full back.

Really, like three best position, full back. And if you're not going to play full back, well,

probably, well, no, five, eight, is it... Is it a fair option?

Yep. So, yeah, I will say that you look at people with oversupplies,

and like, maybe Perf Bears are having that same little look as well.

They will be in the market for a lot of the same people, and P&J are about to come in the market.

Yeah. And, you know, I think I've said this before, like I think,

dragons, I said about that obvious thing being... The obvious answer being up at the goal,

because maybe it's down in Melbourne, for a lot that is, or isn't retired.

And when Flano talks about franchise players, and we said during Bula, Brian Papenhausen

would be a franchise player. Can I get the feeling he's done?

Could you imagine him, but I get the feeling he's mentally done.

I've run into a couple of times, and he's cadding around the world.

How long can he do that for?

Yeah, I know, but I get the feeling from him that he walks to his own beat,

which is really good. He's a unique individual, and he's done from everything that I've spoken to him.

That'd be... Look, I get that, but then, you know, how long can you cruise around for?

Yeah.

Like, how long can you actually, is that sustainable?

And how long do you get the penny drops, and go, so I kind of miss it.

And maybe you know, we talk about risk assessment, maybe he goes, well, maybe there's actually

worth it. Maybe there's worth the risk.

It'd be quite the story if he is actually done and dusted.

You think about him, Josh Schuster recently, like two players,

or obviously, you know, different situations, but two players that are happy to walk away from the

game. Maybe the times are changing, yes. Maybe they are.

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dealer today, season C's apply. The roosters against the Penroth Panthers would go Penrothangle first.

You know, a lot of people talking about their defensive attributes, which are second to

non, clear favorites now, especially with lab ropes, to take up the premiership. Most people

in and around the game feel the same way, feel it's going to take a suspension or an injury to

one of their stars to bring them back to the back to the pack. I think one thing that probably

isn't highlighted enough with this Penroth team is their skill. And not just Nathan Cleary, that

one where he went across and showed it to the inside and then flicked it to the outside. Like,

that's that's pretty incredible. That's what we've come to expect from Nathan. The two bits of

individual skill, the Bryant Auto try was absolutely ridiculous. That's I think that's better

than Marke Marks, personally. And then Isaiah Papalihi and that pass, that caught our pass.

Some fullbacks would have been it. Every fullback would have been stoked with that.

Everything's about defense with the Panthers, but and they kept the roosters, what I think they've

considered two tries and 10 points, 10 points and three games. That's incredible, especially with

an invogue attacking comp with six games, but their individual skill, I must say.

I know that conceded the most six games before before the weekend. They have conceded the most

against them. But this is this is where not all six games are equal. So where about on the field,

you can see just six games is everything. The Panthers are happy inside their 20. They'll

purposely go out of their way to concede inside their 20 inside their own 20. Well, because

I think that I heard I think it was Cooper Cooper Cronk saying the call around the roosters look

cooked. The Panthers are marinating their opposition midweek because I think attacking set up

wise, you play the Panthers, you know in the week your regular style of gameplay and your regular

formation and your usual plays and your style is going to need to be absolutely perfect or you'll

have to do something different to break this side down. So they're already in your heads. So

that adds to the pressure of when you're in the opposition's red zone. So they're happy to

concede them there knowing like look, it's hard. It's a hard place to break down anyway. They're

not going to pressure that that puts on up. They think on we're down here. We've got to score.

They also are happy to give them away on first tackle because I think they know as well

the probability of a referee or a match official giving another one decreases and I think

they play on the minds of it. And also I just want to point this out about where the game is going

with defense and you know if you think about defense and people often talk about

missed tackles right? Oh that's a big start in NRL but people like it, well it's on every NRL

stats you will show that the missed tackles from a position and usually it's a good indicator of how

well the defense goes. In effect of tackles from the Penmouth Panthers was 27. That's a lot.

Miss tackles 44. Yeah it's a lot. If that's the Titans or the Cowboys, we're highlighting that

and go. They can see a lot. They work so hard from the inside. Like I that's I was lucky enough to

be there on Friday. That's the best team I've ever seen. I'm considering their last five

years too. That is the best team I've ever seen. Like they're skilled. If any other team throws

the ball around like that, they drop them all 15-20 times. But they will throw and pass us around

off like they're not, we've accustomed to them just grinding teams down, five outside,

backs out of yardage. They've adapted and changed. They shift off the kickoff,

when Alamodi went around, Powga, like they aren't just a boring. Yeah they're not boring. They're good.

They're fun to watch. They're offloading. They're throwing the ball around like

it's as good. That's 22 from 23 and a half time. And it was roosters are on top for the first 10

minutes. And I was sitting there going, okay this is this is really interesting. Like this

this could be and then all of a sudden within five minutes of the game was over.

It was over because they just went, all right we'll go again here. Can you come with us?

And they couldn't come with us. Yeah they're not, they're not an emotional team either.

No they don't feel, all right it's come from their senior playing group,

Cleary, Toto, Adwoods, Martin, I'll put Kenny in there, yo. They just don't feel.

This is like right I will go again. Are we losing them momentum or are on top? It doesn't matter.

They just keep going. They just keep going. They don't feel like it's a very simpleid

coordinator and Jake Friend and those guys were like that. They just didn't it didn't matter

whether they felt good on top or felt like the momentum was against them was just they just

kept going and going and going and going. We'll be right in the end. Can we other team go with

you? And that's probably where the roosters just haven't been able to go with with Pendroth and

Melbourne over over that period. But no one is even in the ballpark with Pendroth at the moment.

They may lose a couple of games here and there but when it really matters and they have a big game

there's no one even in the there's only one team I think that can be him and that's Brisbane.

Purely for what you said they bring something different and it's one man. It's

in my opinion it's Reese Walsh. That's the person that troubles him because he's different.

There's no one else like you in the game. It's very hard to coach against him and train to prepare for him.

He's the he's the best attacking player in the competition when he's on and that's the only

team I can see Melbourne similar with Munster Hughes and now Far Longer and Harry but they haven't

been able to do it. Brisbane is the only team that's been able to do it in the last five years

to get to get over him in a big game so yeah there's going to have to be origins going to be the

big question mark for them. Do they all get through that but if the only way I can see someone

getting close is if Nathan Yeau or Dylan is in there at the end of the year. Through injury or

file play. Yeah which you hope never happens. Yeah exactly. Or something special happens and

there's only two teams that you know Reese Walsh and I think that I look at and go there a bit

on orthodox in control. Yeah I reckon there's two other teams that spring to mind that

could get I've got improvement in them and could get really good come the back end of the year.

Canberra and the dogs yeah I think both of those could with the moment at this moment in time

at round three Penrith and absolute classable. The Sydney Roosters can see the lower points

in three rounds of football. 100 is it? 100 points in three games.

They've faced some difficult opposition. No menu or radly which I'd like to see. Yeah I'd like

to see those two in the side but a lot of teams get have had injuries. Yep.

Are they is the pressure starts are become here because I'm just looking at some stats. This is

the longest drought in the NRL era without making a grand final. The previous record was between

2004 and 2010. That's interesting for the for the Roosters. For them not to make a grand final. So

obviously the last almost with you in 1919 with one it's now 2026 not made a GF. I can

tell you from experience the minute you walk in that door there's pressure. Yeah internal external

pressure like when you put that jersey on there's an expectation from the top there all the way

down to the bottom and then externally too as as media and fans there's an expectation that they

are there or they're about at the point in the season and they haven't been for a period of

I think one pre limb final since 2019 yes yeah I think everyone there's under pressure

and it's a good thing because of that expectation but they just they need to figure out

they need to figure it out really quickly and then figure out how they can go with the Melbourne

Appendrath of Southport Bulldogs in there too. Canberra Canberra. They signed two players from

from outside obviously a big focus on youth and youth development with the Barcelona

like that Barcelona method or strategy of you know development two two players in the

spine of seven and nine. Robson obviously he's sorry six in the nine as DC is now playing six.

Robson obviously his first game hard to judge especially against the Panthers but are those decisions

going to be looked upon as as a big factor on what is said and spoken about and the conversations

around coach Robson. Yeah very similar to the 2018 bought Cooper-Cromkin and James Sidesco

and it was I feel like that was like this has it has to get done and she was there and

17 we fell short and we probably had the team to be there and then massive changes came in and

if it never got said and it doesn't things don't get said there at all ever at the top but you

got the feeling was like okay we this has to work and has to work this year otherwise we're all

going to be under a lot of pressure and it took us a little bit of time to get that going

but we ended up we ended up getting the job done so we don't know what that would have turned out

like but yeah it's almost like pushing the chips in and saying we're all in here. What did you

make of the the half's performance? It wasn't their best game yeah obviously it's very hard when

I thought they started I thought Reese Robson started the game really well I thought they played

a lot more direct they got Lindsey going they got far who going but once that little period

happened Pen and scored three tries and you start chasing against them things got ugly very quickly

I reckon they're still trying to figure out how it works in terms of who's running the show or

who's running at certain times who's the main ball player where does Teddy fit into it they're not

using Teddy as well as they have in the past I thought last year when Teddy was there with

Hugo and Sandin they're both very square players you guys are very square player he'll challenge

you back on the inside he runs the ball straight he can steps back on the inside a lot he plays

square for Ted which gives him room felt a pain a little bit a little bit across fear a lot of

people getting dropped under a lot of the halves running across and Teddy hasn't had any opportunities

out wide he hasn't had any three on twos where he can thread the needle he's it's very man on out

they're not running the play is great and it needs they need to improve really quickly

they've got time on this side it's around three do you think they are a natural fit DC and

Sam Walker and I want to ask you about like bringing the best out of one another like I think in

the middle I know at different points in my career we all had the same job we all had the same

expectations and we all had there was non-negotiable in a matter who was in the team is like right we've

got to do X, Y and Z if you miss your like we're all up each other for the rent we're all it was

in the quality-based thing that like everybody chipped in everybody did kick pressure everybody

hunted from the inside everybody ball played yeah everybody pushed up in support but then I know

this other sides have played it was like now let's compliment each other let's right I'll do

this because this is my strength you do that because that's your strength and I'll cover your

ass if you cover my ass and probably looking at more halves being the latter is we don't both need

to be great kickers long kickers we don't know both need to be great short kickers and I think

for that DC and Sam Walker compliment each other really well deep yardage kick DC a short kick

give the ball to Walker but there's that's that's one area of the game where yeah that seems like

it's a natural fit there are other areas of the game though where you observe them play it and go

all with it they're not bringing the best out of one another and cares I go back to that interview

you gave from when Sam Walker won the man on the match on Anzac Day and you were happy to say this

is his team he's running the show Sam he's our man moving forward you not taking it back with

step or a sideways step but you you're rolling the team was to compliment Sam Walker and

with DC coming in this experienced half that worked for the Sydney Roosters in 2018

yep with the acquisition of Cooper Cronk and you you mentioned it didn't naturally fit and

from the very beginning but it seems like we're on that road again and it seems less likely

that it's going to improve the way that yourself Cooper Teddy and Jake friendly yeah I think that 18

side it's different because we had a really really good experience squad so Cooper came into

a team that was probably let's let's call it out is it we're ready I believe we're ready to go

and he added that little extra piece for it and that piece he added was

experience calmness maturity and he knew what to do kind of when the heat really came on and then

we had to kind of put the puzzle together with how best to play with him how he was best used inside

that team and how you know myself and and James could compliment him and Jake friend in there at

9.2 so I think it's very it's different this is a younger side they weren't close last year

and everyone's just to automatically put him straight up to a lot of people have tipped him to

win the comp or be minor premiers theoretically on paper does that combo look like it's going to work

no let's be honest like it's not theoretically lucky yeah but I said the same thing about Melbourne

theoretically that doesn't you got to you got Jerome Hughes and Munster who are a fullback

five eights right but the person who makes it work is Harry Grant in that I don't feel like

Munster and Hughes compliment each other at all they don't play together much at all sometimes they'll

come around and play to each other every now and then but they actually play with their

their sides and they play with Harry a lot yeah the person so they don't compliment each other like

you're saying and that's okay for a team like that and Cronullo do it to a certain extent too

they're not they don't compliment each other really well those two but they make it work yeah

in a different style away and they need the roosters boys they need to find a way they need to find

a way to make it work I think I think sent them the the next level and the involvement for Sam

is learning how to unlock the people around him we've always known he's brilliant individually

got a great short kicking game we've seen him throw the passes to the wingers and things like that we've

seen him really dominate on the front foot how can you unlock Angus Crichton how can you unlock James

Sadesco like Hugo was able to do how can you unlock the the two will especially Rob Toya over on the

right and you'll get Billy Smith on the left how can you start to bring those guys into the game

and and assist them right yeah I think like in their stats that tries I think I've only got one

chez scored last week one try they haven't had many line break assists like they need to start

unlocking the people around them you use that phrase find a way and I get it and yeah I we hear it

all the time you've got to find a way to win and a lot of the time that's defensive orientated

just find a way to get there find a way to turn up and it with with with with halves it is it

is it you know and you spoke there about finding a way to unlock Teddy unlock Angus

is it an attitude thing is it is it is it is an approach of I maybe need to just move to the side

here or or park my ambition or park my control on the team and maybe invite somebody in

to the party I think there's a bit of both I think the halves stuffs I think the attitude

thing for half is how you attack the line and how you present yourself to the line and run the ball

and things like that but I mean more than that a chewed of we're together in this

yeah we've got to do this together oh I can only speak from my experience that's every half

of playing I wasn't there wasn't many but it was always a comment it was always a partnership

it was never it was never ever I'll just do my thing and hopefully they do this

that doesn't that it has to be it has to be a joint thing and I'm not don't think I've seen it

no when roosters have played so far but we you do see it sometimes we're a half or four

they're having the accident they didn't get the foot yeah no I think Moses did it on the weekend

actually he peasant got it and he threw his arms but they're not to mature the way he plays

and I think they probably know Mitch is the man and yeah I think I think I think the thing with

him is I think it's a skill I think it's a skill set thing and an attribute thing

the chas has always been through his whole creds stood true for him for 355 he's a great runner of

the ball but he's never been like a really square square player at the line and Sam's never how

hasn't so far been that really square type of player and that's I found with Teddy that was the

best way to unlock him give him just give him just preserve as much space for him as possible

because he's probably going to beat someone 101 and if they give him a three on two he's he's

very good at him too so I think that's a part that's part of it they're both they both love

I'll say skipping across the field dropping people under and he's trying to skip cross defenders

and things like that and it's it's hard when you've got two people doing that that was

Cooper's biggest strength he just played dead straight and square and and just in terms for

for our listeners and our viewers like you know they talk game adventures but the the difference

that makes you're going square into the line for someone like to desk up versus if you

creep into a little bit of these space that we're talking like half a yard that's the difference

between that play being effective or ineffective right yes like what what are we what are we what

like game adventures half a yard half a yard like Teddy half a yard so they ran a play there's a

play in the first half Chad's took a right hand short side he played really square underneath Teddy

got out the back beat Talonghi went to throw a long hit Rob toy short he got stopped

30 centimeters short of the line that was that best play the whole inside game yeah

and it was due to just giving Teddy a little bit of space

interesting um you mentioned blaze Talonghi what what a what a play he's yeah he started to fit in

that system isn't he just took him that you know last year he came in raw like really

writing he's playing on the wing at power I'm out of the year before I was really impressed with him

that let whole left side case him a clean um publicly Talonghi they're they're just gonna get

that's a scary thing yeah they're probably just gonna keep getting better yeah they are in terms

of the roosters uh their next block of fixtures so mainly Thursday evening DC returns to Brook

Vale oval that is going to be um a hostile fragile environment for multitude of reasons looking

forward I'm actually there for triple amp pumped we're going to be there at Brook Vale oval four

pints park and what's the noise like after that all right so what about sides after that yeah

well if manly manly lose three home games yes

you can't turn the noise up anymore you're at full volume if you lose three games at home

um it's massive would you would you agree uh yep yep definitely that but now reckon they would

have circled um we spoke especially the new castle one they would have fancied himself

camera down there at home realm one and then a buy into the roosters it's probably yeah one you

go okay we we're a chance here of winning our first three plus the buy um then from a roosters

perspective yeah sorry manly this week then we'll talk about what happens if if they are

to go down on Thursday but they go sharks in path nights at home into Anzac Day dragon so look at

a favorable block of four fixtures and but the manly game if they are to lose that

but there's the noise start creeping in about coach Robinson I think it will externally which is

fair enough if a team that's fancied um to be to be heavy weights goes one and one and three and

loses that brookie to a team um that isn't going great at all the external noise will happen

I can't say I know this because I don't but I'd the internally um I don't think there will be I

think it's definitely a this is a not a lot I wouldn't say long term but it's a season long

approach to this which yeah I'll try not to refer to too much but in 2008 we struggled a lot

early in the year we were four and four going in Anzac Day got hammered by the dragons

and I was even sitting there going well we're in trouble here um and I think there was a lot of

noise especially around Cooper um come into the club so it'll definitely be uh that

it's I don't like likes Anzac but they'll be judged in September of where they yeah where they

finish up but that doesn't mean the noise won't be there it is that doesn't mean there won't be

pressure there will be there will be noise there'll be pressure but I get you get the feeling

in in definitely internally they they're judged at the end of the year because they're

will robo's very well-known for starting a bit slower and then finishing fairly strong yeah look I

think as well I've got to congratulate the NRL and the spread of talent especially with the dolphins

coming in a lot of people thinking that was going to significantly dilute the comp but there's

so many teams that's so much upside done have that you where that you used a few times to the

expectations uh the play finals the play top four to win the comp like there's

there'd be maybe four or five the expectation would be we can win it this year

you know what I've found since the dolphins came in I reckon since COVID and the games improved a

lot a lot of more money's come into the game Perth PNG the dolphins I've it's fact every single

team has set up an academy if they haven't then they're in big trouble yeah they've all sorted

out their development of players these kids are coming through a lot more ready and the

competition for players is the hardest it's ever been and it's improving players at a younger age

a lot more players are becoming first graders or being able to play first grade so the actual

expansion has forced the game to evolve to move for teams and clubs to improve their standards

but that these clubs are tipping millions of dollars into these academies and

development programs and things like that it's it's it's it's been great for the game like because

I remember I think Andrew Johns and Brad they were saying there's not enough players for this

like we're spreading it too thin the game evolved and adapts these academies are the best thing

that's happened to the game yeah and they've obviously taken it from from the APL and and European

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surprised to hear it's not the wires but it's all looks and you're saying that's a week again

there's day mate what what a game of football like in the wet it's actually a high quality

it went over 80 percent yeah how how good was um Crite and against Hudson Young

like is that is that not what people want to be like the opposite sides of the field spraying

each other and then kind of like two boxes after a war of words come together at the end the new

South Wales teammates like and you know he he was asked after the game Stephen Crite and what

what what all the chat was about and he goes oh he was just trying to get me to give his protein

a shot like how good is that like he joked about this ongoing like that I love that sort of

stuff I'm loving the feuds at the moment Stefano race yes Stefano is bringing up a two photos

Stefano coming out those two that's the beauty of it oh Gordy and the south roosters one that we

had for the state they put out yeah after the show you're waiting yeah yeah I wasn't you know

what that bulldogs me and that's a coach as we know I can yeah had the buy the two trick plays

got him the two tries I'm guessing that was yeah I'm taking a punt that was Adam O'Brien he's

come up with I'm surprised they didn't go back to Crite and come down the right hand side again

because yeah I want you to at once it's yeah yeah but I don't know I thought it were and maybe

using them as a foil and go to tomorrow yeah they might come up that might be this week that might

be this week I've let the canal be serious and but it was a a great win for the dogs camera are in

the mix I tell you what that Ethan Sanders absolutely don't kick out all ends up like absolutely oh

yeah kick out no just kick it's not normally like that and enough my it that it's heartbreaking for

for camera I think back to the year last year I think they were two and two played the sharks at

home and got a win right in that that corner yeah same corner against the sharks on the bulls

are basically and look I think it to be fair and the Preston track in the build up and

camera should have got a six again like there's there's a missed thing there and it's just the

way the game goes is that the bulldogs going score well it's bulldogs obviously won the they they

could than they're not but if they don't have those players that can ice the moment Stephen

Crichton in Vegas Tracy yeah they could be on to you 100% you know it's changed around the

dragons are actually on three yeah it's it's just just money out of all works it is but congratulations

to the dogs I think Hudson Young I love watching him play yeah look there's some amazing

buck rows in our comp amazing buck rows and it's hard to separate I reckon he's the best at the

at the moment the last 80 yeah awesome season and three games I reckon he was awesome he's playing

I think the camera have a lot what you said they got a lot of improvement yeah I think Strangel

get more used to playing on the right he actually came over left for that last try and played with

Hudson Young yes which was interesting hmm it's funny he's got a great left foot and he's actually

played a lot of right and I think he played a lot of right center as a kid so you use your left

foot a lot to skip on the outside you can conflict here we are he's just got to learn how to use that

as a ball player on the right because on the left he was if he come off he's left that teams he

scored a lot of tries last year close to the line just back off the line try powerful like Jack

Wharton he's just going to have to adapt and find a different way to use that left foot

on the right side of the field which is going to be tricky for him it might take a little bit of time

for him to get that going yeah but the the Raiders I think rest assured they'll be there or

they're about to they keep playing like that yeah it's a harsh game to lose but there's enough there

they're played three games in the pouring round yeah probably doesn't suit in a style of

full years but they've actually to be honest they were I thought they were good round they were

awful round two in that second half against the Warriors but they've played some great for

you to complain of the level they did and you mentioned finding a way to win and you mentioned

reswalsh and his brilliance well the Broncos found a way to win they had some reswalsh brilliance and

they upset massive upset all things considered Brisbane nobody give them a chance going down to

the Melbourne storm they were in dominating the headlines without their captain Adam Reynolds

and they come away with the victory down in down in Melbourne that was an unbelievable victory like

14 nil down you just got the fear everything wasn't going their way they'll they'll drop the ball

things just weren't working I think Reese was the he I think not yet he'll I he'll turn into a 5-8

I think I think I think he'll make I know he played it through his juniors he played 5-8

when he's handed the keys like he's just a kicking game 40-20 he's up on the ball he only had

five or six runs the other night the way he takes those short sides it's near it's a I love

watching I love I love playing shorts I love watching him play like he's so fast he's up over

the outline it's it's very very difficult to stop I thought again we spoke about last week

there I thought their leaders were really good the week before against Para they tried really

are they were they're best effort plays they were the same again Payne Carrigan Catoni

Reese I think Corey Pakes played 80 minutes too they only used 15 players yeah well

really yeah they only used 15 players that was a that's the I said before the game they didn't

need a win they just needed to find themselves again which they did but then to get the win on top

of it even better quite hopefully quite to down for him a little bit another big one again

against the dolphins but a sister one team I think can trouble pendant it if they get a chance

they're using 15 players Charlie White's got a puzzled look on his face that that's right isn't it

yeah yeah so match look they get the win but is that is that a sign that

he is like that that's a play that says we needed this win like we're not we're not in this for

the long time well we are in if the long haul but we need a win today so I've got to get my

absolute best and squeeze that juice as hard as I possibly can yeah because he didn't want to

take any of those boys off yeah matter when they started coming from yeah yeah yeah which is

and told you only played 27 so that's a a lot of football but you know what they got the win

and some people say oh you criticize Brisbane they're in look I'm stating the fact they use

15 players and told he played 27 more credit to them credit to them but again this

I guess the talk of Ben out just then maybe increases as the season goes on you're crazy

well but let them play let make congratulations they got it for the league when Brisbane

new will oh don't guess I sang you that message last week as a timely reminder of you can't have

eight teams that it's good for the game we know eight teams are doing well in sick side here

and the was we've got to touch on the was three in order to start the season so many listeners

across the did so I've just been waiting yeah you got the win well done you beat Newcastle yeah

thanks for coming see you later was do you hear and listen oh mate they make they're most yeah

they're most in arguably the most engaging um supporter base with the by-round often complaining

about the lack of attention that they get hats off the tannaboy when injuries hit and you rely

on those um players to come in I think you know any observer of the warrior squad would have had tannaboy

does maybe the fourth choice half perhaps even fifth if you think about you know maybe moving

chance into six tannaboy picking up the bag but it's a form half behind that and it is exactly what

you need when you when you when your club's going for an in not an injury crisis because it's not

that like it's not bad you lose it but they're okay injured players it's in key positions you either

want a young player to come in and tan some heads and go oh look I'm excited about that in the future

but then when your big dogs back they come in or exactly what's happened at the war is that

third or fourth choice I think most can excuse them just being steady and just getting through the

game and relying on your players to feature to get your home but he's shooting the lights up at the

moment yeah I think he's forcing him into keeping him there for the year I think and I think

it'll be good for Matt car if I don't need hurts Matt car for it all to come back in as a 5-8

which I think he was a natural 5-8 coming through great run of the footy he can still play up on

ball every now and then but it tannab can get him around he's showing that he can no they've they've

they've played the roosters cambera and then obviously a depleted new castle but he's he's

picked the part all three of them um has has Jackson Ford not well I wouldn't say like this but he's

either he's either leader then has he gone past Fisher Harris and Barnett as the leader of that

pack no why not no 40's just doing his job what 23 runs for 200 yeah he's just working really

that's Jackson he's just where he's not I'm not actually he's not going to pick him up and yeah he's

not he's probably not I mean obviously I knew him a long time ago and people change and people

develop into leaders can't see 40 the type like you know take him yeah take like especially

especially with with with Fisher Harris there and I'm keen to see the intrigue and Matt there

because I thought Barnett was really good coming back yeah you put them all three all three

all at the same time do you rotate them yeah I love their back row oh mate their back rows

in intense it's great I did you have them issue in you I didn't have the warriors in finals

and well all right well I mean look I'm happy to be wrong I just didn't see them playing finals

at the start of the year I didn't nobody saw Tanner Boyd happen in fact probably most would have

predicted that he was going to go the other way there's still time okay love your wars fans

the West Tigers against South Tigers this everything seemed so positive after

Ram won and usually we're talking about Tigers not being it stale the news for the for off-field

unfortunately injuries to to Dewey and Luai looks like it's for hopefully I'm just a medial for

your own but the hamstring didn't look great for for Adam Dewey like not it's the way that he

the area that he was grabbing as well was in the the hamstring tendon where where it attaches I

mean look I'm though we usually with him easy grab him and then he was he couldn't walk yeah

and he's been so good he's been so good they they're gonna have to do what the warriors have

done and relied on their rely on their third and fourth choice and perhaps they move up he

chorus up into there but again I think south defense like Wayne Bennett was filthy after the game

what's the great press conference is that before he was not in the mood to to praise his players I

thought south Sydney J. Gray some of the the the competitiveness of him like him vs. Boole I mean

just won't be that with J. Gray out of their ideas there was a couple of try-saves that he was

heavily involved coming through them yeah oh my god that was not that's not normal

for any player like if that's tady if that's Dylan Edwards we're like yeah oh he won them the game

what about this play kind of trade example yeah J. Gray was sincere cannot but feel for the

Tigers yeah and just when you think it's coming the documentary comes out that they look good

and then they lose that to that's gonna be they're like it's hard to say I'm winning without them too

well look again they they look at the what it's hard to see the warriors winning without meckoff

yeah but you go for the Tigers you go Latu you know jock madden have to come in and and do they

I don't know do they need to take control or do you go more off happy do you bring more from

your own Boola oh it's gonna be difficult it's got it is it is but the warriors have shown that

it's doable and Latu Fein who to be fair mate like a lot of people have made your wraps on him

arguably before Dewey coming into the seven last year yeah people had those people thought him

and Lou I would be even people questioning while they're racing on Dewey yeah I guess I think he's

still not feet Benji said they got a check on him this week but we actually if you know

it might be a good opportunity for him to he'll be there for at least a month I'm gonna guess

would you move up do you move up Ian to seven oh I didn't you wouldn't want to that's your last

option I think just because he's so good at knowing like he's he's one of the best nines

you've that you've just got to go with it like the warriors did you've almost just got to go

let's just see how it goes hopefully that pack can can hold him up yeah through games and they just

scrap their way to some wins but it's just it sucks it sucks form they lose their two

and we love and we know the leagues going well when it's good for the league it's good for the

comp at the time for the league it's going to be awful awful for the comp at the time for your

dreams and final game sharks against the dolphins dolphins look to real dear is he could

tower best game of the year so far and again there expect the players heavy farm with

the hammer that was the difference for me I'll start with this i reckon we're going to say this

a bit this year teams are going to get themselves right up for penneroth and think this is our week

they're going to see where we're at see if we can knock him off they're going to put everything

into that and then the next week she's just going to be a bit of a uh you you think a little

I think it's going to be a little bit of a pent as effect yeah the shot at certain times yeah

I made I called the game it was as fighters I've seen them in like that was just like

you think it's so daviriko he said I was a great quality game because they both completed

really high but it was just like um dolphins were still a bit nervous at the start of the end

they're still trying to find himself i reckon um christian wolf's put a huge huge emphasis on

i reckon he said to him don't even think about your attack we need to sort out defense if we're

going to do anything in this competition you could feel them just like they were just trying to

get into it and then the sharks were just playing which is kind of understood I think there's

absolutely nothing to worry about with him yeah I think they'll get back up they just

that are really disappointing loss to penance which I think a lot of teams are going to have this year

um dolphins by the end of the game they look like they were like right let's go there's five

minutes to go the game was over they scored three tries in that five minutes because they went

oh watch this yeah now we well with one let's go yeah Morgan knows was enormous I'm glad you

said that because I was going to say but he was accused of being it wasn't his numbers weren't

ridiculous he kicked chase every single time he he folded Sam's throwing straight a couple times he

was and nor like he hits he's one of the biggest hiters in the comp like I'll all visit

finish we are he was the same he was 19 for 167 all 190 meters sorry um he looks like he's an 80

minute back rower now they start the pieces are there they need to sort their defense and that's

a big tick granola out granola very good attacking team huge tick I still worry about the sharks

and their lack of like genuine game breakage got trinkled to an extent but I just yeah I said a lot

nicoes the one they need yeah they need probably need a bit more miss yeah they're in a similar spot

to the roosters where it's like you've got to find that step and I reckon they're both both clubs

will be wrestling with that about yeah we're good but what about really dragon he like it's been a

little bit quiet too but I think there'd be a lot more emphasis put on him from other teams about

stopping him yeah nico and trendle didn't work well together on the weekend but it was come off

a flat platform it wasn't they didn't have huge momentum I love the dolphins back five yeah they

get them going so I'm doing the the muckers top 99 plays in the game been making my left

and little sneak preview like it's not finalized yet I'm trying to sort out my senses and who's the

best center in the comp and I'm debating between Criton and farm with and Criton's the best

defensive I don't know if there's a better attacking center than here being the game there isn't

the only one that gets close to him's literal yeah you want to see it for yeah like if the troll

the trolls are moving for yeah yeah there's the trolls in my opinion a better attacking player but

I I wouldn't say that now just because her he's done it for a few years and he is that hard to tackle

yeah he is I'm leaning defensively it's good to yeah I'm leaning towards here being the best

center in the comp I'm leaning towards and being the best center in the competition but I've

got my yeah my muckers top 99 players and I'm just who's your best full back you'll have to tune

in to find out the interesting one we'll talk about well actually sorry race well it's reset them

probably it's well yeah it's reset the moment yeah it is this is as good as I've seen Dylan Edwards

in this whole period I reckon this is yeah as good as I've seen it but like the ground like

like people wouldn't see this on TV the stuff he was doing in defense was unbelievable he was running

in at a back across there was nowhere to kick early Sam walking that would have been looking for

different times to kick early they tested him with the short kicks they'll put in these midfield

bombs up trying to get the wingers down on him and Teddy he caught everything yeah he was defensively

everywhere like he's he's back to his oh yeah that he better than he's best a struggling

knee yeah better than his best honestly we're spoiled good on the spoil with four bucks that's

what we've got time for case we're going to get you to the airport again um off to again the

lines yeah I might have a crack it would you talk do it do it what are you going to have a crack

oh yeah yeah fine something you can't because he doesn't have a team he played for that many

teams and he refuses to lights out I am a tiger's man yeah he's never he's the tiger's man

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