THE HERD – HOUR 3 – Kyle Shanahan Owns Sean McVay | Sean Payton on Bo Nix & Jaylen Waddle

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3:10radio app by searching FoxBorcht radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. He's one of my absolute favorite people that's ever worked at Fox and when he was at Fox, I knew he couldn't stay forever even though he loved it. I'm like, your mind's going too fast. You got to get out there and coach. He did not take over the easiest situation. Denver was a, you know, they had some problems. I'll just leave it at that. And he fixed that old line very quickly. And he was one of the few people in the NFL that said, Bo Nex is a first round quarterback and Bo Nex is going to work and he was right. And the other day he sent me a text because I don't know what to do with Denver. The first six games are brutal. Bo had Bo had a second, like, angle surgery. The division now, even the Raiders are dangerous. So let's bring on Sean Peyton fourth year with a Broncos head coach. It's flown by. They've improved every year.

4:11You text me and you said, why are you doubting Bo Nex? And I'm like, you're schedule, the division. What was the, I mean, you watched a lot of film on Bo and I knew you liked him. What's the one thing he's better at that you didn't know before you had him in Denver? I think his ability when the pocket gets murky, which it's going to for all of these guys, he's tough to sack. We knew that, but his playmaking ability outside the pocket is easily. Throwing off the run to the right to the left. That's a super power of his and a few others in our league as well. And look, it's tougher with some of the pressure packages you get with defenses, but he does a really good job of that. You know, Sean, it's interesting. You say offensive coaches and defensive coaches don't always do this.

5:12Ben Johnson did this. You did this offensive coaches always go offensive line first. They solved the offensive line. And I've criticized defensive coaches. I'm like, guys, there are no great teams with battle lines. What is your theory? You told me off air your theory because you saw that offensive line. It was bad and then it was top eight by the end of your first job. Give me your theory on that. I think this, it's the one position group that permeates the building. And what I'm saying is if that group isn't really good, you really don't know how good your defensive line is then because on a daily basis, they're not getting taxed, if you will, or tested. And all the other things you want to do, you want to run the ball, you want to be more efficient throwing the ball, play action pass, boot snake, whatever it is you want to do, all of it is difficult. If that group is subpar and all of it is possible, now it's not, it's not like,

6:18it's definitely going to be, but if your offensive line is good, then you get proper evaluations in the other areas. It's harder to evaluate or running back, a quarterback. You know, all the skill people, if that position group is not right, in the two best allies for good quarterback play, and this will never change is good defense and a good run game. You know, your quarterback's not on the high dive in a game as much. They're going to have to climb up there, but they're not up there as much. And so I think, I think the front and drafting, because it's hard to find, you know, we signed a couple guys in free agency. We've drafted to that position group, but draft in the big people, both in the offense and defensive line, I think is really important. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's from my experience. It's what really helped us in New Orleans. We didn't know it.

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10:28You can check your eligibility and book at Vax Assist dot com. Pfizer outdo yesterday. You know, I'm a big fan of Cortland Sutton. You got Mems. You got Franklin and I when you got Jalen Waddle, I knew he'd be great, but my take was, oh boy, now you got to share the ball. Now there's more mouse to feed. How's that going to play in the wide receiver room? Because Cortland Sutton, I always thought you could argue he's a one. He doesn't have Waddle speed. But when you bring in a star receiver, did you worry at all about, okay, we got to share the ball. I'm trying to get these young guys to feel good about themselves. Now Waddles, you're one. How did that play? I think it's a great question that it starts with. What's the vision for the player? I think he's someone that plays exceptionally well in the slot and then can go outside to Z. And I think you take the approach. It was more about like this guy's football makeup is fantastic. He's extremely, extremely good on the field relative to his communication skills.

11:32He's great with his position, you know, with his peers. You know, he endears himself to his teammates and his work ethic. So then you get to the question like, well, we'll worry about these touches when the time comes. Right. But we're finding a different type player. This is a guy that runs exceptionally fast and then he stops fast. So there's two ways you separate in our league. You run faster than somebody or you stop faster. And it's not often you get a guy that does both. Pat Bryant said a tremendous camp. Like, you know, and so I think when we game plan and we're in the middle of it and you put up a play, you're discussing where these pieces are, where you think primary is going to be secondary or and does it fit, you know, their skill set. And then in the same thing exists a little bit at running back when we drafted Jonah Coleman. You know, it happens as healthy, RJ Harvey. It's hard to feed three in a game. But you're putting together the best roster you can with the right makeup and where we were

12:40picking in this year's draft in the first round at the way back end of it, we didn't feel like there was a player like Waddle at that pick. Right. And so then it was all about the study of him. You could see it on tape, but it was all about, you know, what kind of fit is he going to be in and man, his training camp has been something. I don't know how much you watched the Rams Niners or Seahawks Patriots. I'm sure you heard the Niners kind of pushed him around. Week one is weird. Nobody plays starters in the preseason. It's joint practices, older players. You know, you don't want to get them banged up. If you didn't watch, it's okay. If you did watch a little, what do you take from week one? San Francisco pushes the Rams all over the field and everybody loves the Rams. What do you take from week one or what you've seen so far? Well, so we were game planning and it was on one of the back screens with no volume.

13:42So you're just turning over your shoulder. Obviously, the time of possession, I thought the kickoff returned to start the second half. From San Francisco's first return in the second half, they came out to the 50. That was significant. Certainly, you felt the run game more in the second half. We do these studies in week one. I don't want to use the term. It's very easy to lose a game in week one. And so I think it's important to dial your list down a little and make sure there's not too much in the plan. We're going to be in this sprint. You brought it up. You go through training camp. There might be a joint practice, three preseason games. And then there's this five week race. It's the first time everyone's blinders are off. There's 32 horses at the gate. And you don't really know to your right or left what's going on during the spring.

14:46And you really don't know in training camp. And so this weekend, you kind of hear that bell. And the horses all get out in the what you're seeing kind of like right away where teams are at. Week one can be a little deceiving. We traditionally, when I say our three years here, we haven't been real good in the first quarter of the season. You don't want to into it best. But we've gotten off to one and two starts lost a tough game a year ago. And so it's not the be all end all. And yet you really want to see how we're measured. And in this case, we're playing a divisional opponent, a very good opponent on the road. So we're all excited just as Kansas City is. And you're really anxious to see what you got a little bit. If that makes any sense. And then quickly, and I'm sure Sean and Kyle and the Seahawks no different than the Patriots, very quickly, it's all right.

15:46Next week's got to be better in these areas. We're in this race here. The first month of the season, I think is that teaching race to improve that I think is so important for these teams. Okay, so I got to ask you this. I'll be on a wrap with this. Davis Webb, you give him the play calling. And listen, I know you, you're intense, you're you get to the point, you don't beat around the bush. And you're on that headset. And Davis Webb calls a draw. And you're like, I don't like that. I don't like that. How are you going to be like, you know, I gave the young man an opportunity. How in the world are you going to just say, zip it? No biggie. Let's see how it plays out. You know, we're being done it for so long. I had a great three years in an experience with Bill Parcells. Now Bill, you had commentary almost after each call. There would be a deep breath like, and then if something went well, he would say,

16:47I don't boy, I don't boy. You know, but it was, it was, and it became white noise it had to, right? And so I've tried to take the approach, looking the preseason, Davis a year ago called plays this preseason. And it might be between series, or maybe there's a clockstoppage, or there's something, and I'll just, it might be been say, be thinking about this. It's important that he understands if I'm thinking this is a four-down situation. In other words, he's calling it like, third down, but if we're approaching a third down at the 38 yard line, I might say to him, hey, I'm thinking four-downs here. And that can change his third down call. So that has to exist. But I think it's more during the week, you know, like last night in our meetings, ultimately what we put on that sheet, he's got to feel good about. And so I'll go through some plays, some thoughts that I think look good.

17:47Here's why. And I said, last night, I said, the worst thing we can do is take down and install plays that you know in your heart-to-heart on Sunday. You're not going to be interested in calling. So let's not do that. In other words, because we want to practice and be efficient. But look, I think I wouldn't have done it if I didn't think it was going to help us win games. And I also think that, look, there'll be a time where I might say, think about keeping it on the ground here a little bit. Like we're supposed to have a lot of win Monday night. I think 20 to 30 mile an hour of win gusts. And so that can impact, you know, how you play in the first quarter or the second quarter. Sure. And so it's those type of things that just from an experienced standpoint that I think, but I'm certainly going to be mindful of that line. And I already am with anyone else like, let's, you know, let him focus on the calls and then,

18:50you know, during the breaks or during the stoppages, now we cross the 50, there's communication. But I think that part of it will go well. I think, look, the challenge is the opponent each week. And so, you know, we can't, we can't create our own obstacles. We got to worry about the opponent. And so I think he's someone that, look, he's played the position. And he's been a part of some really good offenses. And he's been here a while. And I think all of that has helped him. By the way, your first six games are ridiculous. It's just insane. What a gauntlet it is. I said this a week ago. I said, you come out of there three and three. I'd take that today. Of course, you wouldn't take that today. Now you open up at Kansas City. You played Mahomes multiple times. Is there a cheat code with Patrick? Are you? Is it just like put pressure on him and cross your fingers? I think, look, per question. One of the things he does so well is from Huddled Break to Ball snapped.

19:53He multitasked with emotions, the pressures, what he sees. You hear it. Whenever you hear it, get a chance to get him miced up. And you actually hear him. That happens twice a year. But when you actually hear him miced up from Huddled to Linus Grimich. And let's say there's 70 snaps in a game. These are 70 different huddles that come to the Linus Grimich with different information. Him pointing to a receiver, looking at the running. You know, it's one of his superpowers is identifying what you're doing. He's extremely smart that way. And then, you know, the release, the off-schedule throws, they do a great job systematically to his strengths. And he's a handful. And I think when this game appeared on the schedule release, you know, I think the feeling was certainly, Nick's was going to be healthy and my homes was going to be healthy. And they're two entirely different injuries.

20:55But I think from a fan standpoint, you're going to see two quarterbacks that that have worked hard in their off-season approach, the rehab, and to put themselves in this position. Hey, by the way, I don't, if you ever go plan Melbourne, Sean, I want you to go a week early. Well, see, I'm, I'm of that. And this is just my opinion. I'm always up that, like, let's get out of town. Meaning it helps your team. Like, so the three times we played in London, you know, we would go over Sunday after the game, spend the week there. And then in New Orleans, there were three different times where we had a hurricane that forced us to leave. And then we would, the first one in 07 go to Indianapolis for a week. We'd practice at their stadium and then fly back for the game. But my last, I think my last season in New Orleans, I would always ask Mickey, you know, there's a hurricane in the Gulf. When it got a name, I would go see Mickey and say, Mickey, it's got a name now.

21:56Can we leave? And he knew I'd like to take in the team somewhere because today's team, you know, they're on their cell phones, they're in their locker room. But when you take them somewhere, Australia, for instance, well, the unique thing was that's the first game of the season. So you could actually go two weeks in advance if you want to. And, and truly get acclimated. Yeah. But if it was week two or week four, your choices are simply Sunday night or, right, you know, Thursday. And I don't think anyone's choosing Thursday now. You know, in other words, from a, from a sleep standpoint, but I always looked at it in a different light relative to the, any team that I've taken somewhere, we've ended up having pretty good seasons. You know, in 17 or 18, we go to London, play the dolphins. This past year, you know, Cincinnati Monday night football, we go on the road to Philly, we get a good, tough comeback when it Philly, then go to London for a week, play the Jets when they're

22:58in, and it's always been a good experience because they're around each other more than they would be if you're at home. Yeah. That's right. And, and I get the beds are good at home. And I'm going to find a way to make the beds better. You know, we've used these eight sleeps and these mattresses and the French sheets like I'm going to make the beds better than the ones you have at home. And so, but it's, it's always interesting. It's certainly in the game last night provided a big storyline because two teams handled it, you know, completely differently. And, you know, Sean even said prior, you know, whoever comes out of this game, you know, because it's Australia, we didn't go to Mexico City. We just went to Australia. And, you know, that certainly was something that it was discussed a lot. Yeah. I would have liked to have gone like in August. I'd say I looked, I said this more, I woke up and I was looking at travel sites to Australia.

23:58That country is so beautiful. In and out of commercials, I was like, my God, this place is unbelievable. Maybe you want to, their state parks look like museums. I mean, the holes, cliffs and water. It was like, the Aussies have a good time living. I'll say that. Hey, it's great seeing you. You gave us what I coach has never given me 20 minutes. This was unbelievable. Good luck to you. Hey, thank you. I appreciate it. And I miss our Mondays. So do I. I I loved them. Sean Payton. Great. Sean Payton. Thank you so much. The, um, yeah, it's a, you know, his way is, Oh, we, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, kids are on their phones all the time, we get these guys away from their comfort zone. That's a totally different way. I didn't think of that's why I'm of the 37 reasons. I'm not a coach. That's one of them. So, all right, tomorrow's headlines today is around the corner. J-Mac, J-Mac's been a better week one picker than I have. Now, eventually, he wobbles a little and I am able to catch him. By the way, we didn't get to go over your picks.

24:59Can I just see him on the screen real quick? Sure. Because I think I agree with three of the five, maybe four from your best bits. It was one that I did not like. It might have been, did you take Carolina? I did. So here's the thing, Colin, everybody's taking Carolina. Everybody loves Chicago's overvalued. They're going to pull back. And I see a lot of love for the Panthers. We're talking about Ben Johnson here. He's a genius. I know. Well, on MacVase, a genius, how that looked last night. Well, that's a different, well, okay, that's in Australia, but okay, fair point. Interesting. Well, I guess getting three's not bad for the Panthers. Hopefully his last memory of Carolina is, hey, hey, they almost beat the Rams. So automatically, yet nobody's picking the Panthers to win the division. They aren't favored odds wise. Nobody loves the Panthers, but the last time you saw them, oh, they were, they were spicy. Meanwhile, price young was not great last season for much of it. He's in a couple big games. I'm not disagreeing with anything.

26:00Bears don't have a consistent pass rush. So I think at home, he'll be fine. Actually, let's see one. Yeah, we have three similar dammit. I mean, that's usually a really good sign. I'm going to go take out a second line credit on my house and back it up, back up the brinks. All right, tomorrow's headlines today are next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in New Nester, 9 a.m. Pacific. Here's the reality. Everybody has access to information. Now that's not the advantage anymore. The advantage is execution. Chat GPT work can connect to the tools where work happens. Understand your goals and help turn them into finished work. You can review you stay in control by setting direction and reviewing the output. Bottom line more finished work. Put chat GPT to work on your ambitious ideas and projects. Get started at chat GPT.com by selecting work mode available on plus and pro plans. You need credit to buy. Well, pretty much anything.

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28:04One progress services LLC NMLS ID 2460509 see one pay dot com forward slash licenses. I've always believed in performance comes down to focus whether I'm preparing for the show, catching a flight or just getting in a workout. The right audio helps me lock in. It's why I like J lab. They make headphones, earbuds, speakers and more for people who take their experience seriously. I'm now head to Amazon. Use the code heard 2026 for 20% off any J lab products. That's heard 2026 on Amazon for 20% off. Feel alive with J lab. If you're somebody who remembers the immaculate reception, the catch or the fog bowl then be sure to remember this to your immune system weakens as you age, even if you feel healthy, putting you at a higher risk for flu, pneumococcal pneumonia, RSV and COVID. Ask your doctor about getting your recommended vaccines and how they can help protect you from getting really sick.

29:04You can check your eligibility and book at VaxAssist.com. Pfizer outdo yesterday. How lucky am I? Right before he plays my homes in Andy Reed in Kansas City on Monday night, Sean Payton gives me 20, 25 minutes. Tip of the cap to the Denver Broncos and Sean Payton for providing that, that was just awesome. It's hard enough to get coaches, but that was just awesome. Man, that sport is so good. I just never get tired of football. I'm sorry. Listen, they're talking about extending it to 18 games. Let's just go to 32 and then take June off. I just have so much fun watching football. Texas Ohio State tomorrow, Michigan, Oklahoma tomorrow. God. All right, tomorrow's headlines today. We've got the Brock bounce after last night. Let's see if he can roll here. Bills in the Texans. I don't get the line. I don't get how Houston's an underdog. What say you?

30:04This could be an AFC title game preview, right? You've got Buffalo, which has the MVP and Josh Allen superstar against a great Texans defense. The headline for this barn burner at one Easter tomorrow will be where there's a will. There's a bill lying on the ground. I will go with the Texans beating Buffalo. This is risky, Colin. Come on, opening the season, fading the best quarterback in the league in Josh Allen. Not smart. There are some numbers. Listen, if Josh Allen's in the lead in the second half, it's over. He's one of the best second half quarterbacks in the league because he's a cheat code, right? He could just say, I'm going to run it every time. Good luck tackling me. I'm 65 to 30. But this is a Texans unit that has largely dominated Allen. They get him to throw quicker than he wants to. Yeah. I know they added DJ more, but but stingly is in elite cornerback. Oh, yeah. I don't know that I see an edge for Buffalo other than Josh Allen. And remember, he's had his bell rung in Houston before. So I will go reluctantly Texans. I will go very low scoring here.

31:06Yeah. I don't know what to make of the bills defense at this point, but I'm going with Houston opening with a win at home. Yeah. Yeah. That's the one line this week that I just, I just didn't get tomorrow's headlines today. I have the Saints winning their division, but boy, this is a rough opener Detroit. You know this at home. They play with momentum. They get going. You better slow them down. What say you? Yeah. So this off season, I think we had 21 new offensive play callers. And we've been talking about it. I do believe it's not like it's Jared got first Tyler Schuck. No, no, it's Jared got first the Saints defensive coordinator who I'll tell you that it is shortly. The headline for lions, Saints will be. Oh, and the Saints. No, no, wait a second. When the St Brown goes marching in, I've got the lion smoking the Saints here. I do not think it will be particularly close. And I mentioned that Jared golf is facing the Saints and their defensive coordinator. His name is Brandon Staley. Brandon Staley, who was once a genius. Well, you know, golf has been matched up with Staley twice, Colin, two and a half scored

32:0940 points in both games. Okay. 600 plus yards passing five touchdown zero picks. He has carved up Staley. Like that shell defense. Hey, we'll go light box. We'll invite you to run. We don't want to give up the big place. Well, good luck doing that against Gibbs, who's maybe the best back in the league. I think this is an overplay. I think the lions really cook Colin some of the numbers for Dan Campbell in September. Are you serious? 14 and four against the spread first month. Yep. They practice hard. They're ready to go. Yep. Did you know, by the way, Saints have lost their last six games in September. Slow starting team, Kellan Moore. I listen, I know people are bullish on the Saints. That's fine. Maybe they show well here. The Detroit secondary has some holes, but I like Detroit and I like them a lot this season. Tomorrow's headlines today. I don't even know what to make of the Falcons. Suddenly, Aaron Rogers is talking too much of Falcons at the Steelers. Yeah. Well, we had the breaking news yesterday that two of went down at practice, holding his back. I think we'll show you the video in a sec. The even worse news. It's official.

33:09Cooper rush has started, Colin. They just announced it. The line is Russ skyrocketing. They had lined for Steelers, Falcons will be living beyond your means. Pit visit costs arm and a leg. I like Pittsburgh here. Listen, as soon as the two of back things flirt up, I went and hit it. Pittsburgh. Here is the two of video. This is in the middle of practice. Just start scrapping his back. The guy can't stay healthy. Back spasms, he will not play. Michael Pennigs inactive. It's going to be the Cooper rush show. I totally forgot. Cooper rush actually played last year, right? Filling in for Lamar Jackson. He was awful. Now, he did have to face the Texans. That's a tall order. But even in mop up duty and two other things, he was not good. And now he's got to face a healthy fresh TJ watt. Her big coming off the edge. Listen, I'm not an Aaron Rogers guy. And it ain't just because of what he says about Fauci and politics. He's just too crazy for me. I'm out on that. But I did sneakily like some of their pit. I like Pitman, Colin. I think Pitman underneath the tight ends, DK stretching the field, the running backs.

34:13I think Pittsburgh looks good here. And they get a hot start. Steve, give me the dealers. Okay. This was the last game that I was going to pick. I always take six. And then there's one I don't pick. This was the one, my last pick that I went back and forth and I decided, no, it's a division game. Stay away. Yeah. I feel the same way I like Denver, Kansas City. I'm not doing division game there. Packers at Vikings tomorrow's headlines today. I think I know where you're leaning. I think it's the Viking. I mean, listen, last month we were talking about this on like the two days we were together. I do like the Vikings here. I think I've got a decent case as well. I'm not feeling great about the Packers, man. The headline for Packers at Vikings will be welcome to Murray, Sota, land of 10,000 aches. Give me the Vikings here. Division matchup. We know divisional unders in week one or a lock. So I don't think this is the high scoring game, but Kevin O'Connell has done really well.

35:14Regardless of who his quarterback is against the Packers, he's won for the last five against Green Bay. And again, that's not always with a great quarterback. Now I do believe Justin Jefferson, we're going to see him return to being an elite receiver last year. It was tough, right? He didn't have any receivers. And now JJ McCarthy is the third stringer. So you don't have to worry about him getting in the game. But I do think the Brian Flores defense absolutely cooks here. We know he is one of the best coordinators in the league. Go look at the Green Bay Packers offensive line folks. It is looking bleak and not good. Jordan loves going to need time to throw. We know he can get a little wobbly throwing some interceptions. The running game is not there. Nobody's afraid of Lloyd, the kid that's backing up, Josh Jacobs. I know Kyler against Jonathan Ganon is a role of the dice because Ganon knows him well from their time in Arizona. But give me the Vikings here. I like one better than one and a half because this could easily be a walkoff. The ogle. I got the Vikings. Finally, tomorrow's headlines today. The wise guys are all over Philly. Commanders at the Eagles. Yeah. I don't know what to make of the commanders calling this.

36:15This could be the swan song for offensive line. Not good. The headline for Eagles commanders will be when life hands you a lemon, hand lemon, some live balls. Your guy, McCoy lemon and the Eagles. I think they do well here and take down Washington. You're right. The offensive line. So they lose tonsil. But people forget their other best offensive lineman was Tyler Beattuch. He got signed by the chargers. Their two best offensive linemen are gone. And now they've got to face Jordan Davis right out of the gate and that Philly offensive line. They are nasty up front. They add Grenard who's pretty good coming off the edge. And they added the kid from the Seattle secondary to Rick Wolland. I'm telling you, there's no fly zone. You cannot throw on this team. Nobody scares you for Washington's offense. Terry McClureyne, like, come on. I think the Eagles can call their number here in a defensive slugfest. It is a divisional matchup. I know a lot of people like Washington. I'll take the Eagles like 17 to nine, something like that. I just, I don't know what kind of success Jane Daniels is going to have.

37:15I got nothing on David Blow for you, but I will say Sean Manion comes from Green Bay. Is ride receiver in Green Bay, Don Tavian Wicks. I looked him up, Colin. Some of the numbers, man to man, he was elite, according to Prof. Paul Focus. Just didn't get the touches, but separation and all that. Could he be AJ Brown light? We'll see. I think there's a world where Don Tavian Wicks shows well. You got lemon Don Tavian, D'Vontes Smith. I like the Eagles here. Good stuff. Tomorrow's headlines today. All right. I will tell you that Niners win last night. It just, I think, you know, as I was watching it and we said this going into the game, we said, whoever wins, it's going to be, the narrative is going to be, well, well, you got to do it that way. My take was, I think you can win doing it the way the Rams that it or the Niners, what you don't want to do is try to half it and show up like three days.

38:18Like I think he either do what the Rams did or you do with the Niners. Rams did it that way last year, a 10 and a half hour flight from LA to London and played their cleanest game of the year against the very good Jacksonville team blew them out. So I, but I will, I will say Miles Garrett and the defensive line either didn't have their legs or they just had very little juice. And I thought, I thought the hitting by Greenlaw and Warner and the secondary guys and Bosa, I thought they look good. It was a bunch to my forehead. Rams host the G men next week. I think all this, all Rams are not that great. I think they take it out on New York next week, big time and so far. By the way, did you see Jackson dark talking trash about all his rival? He actually took a shot at Mississippi State. When I was at Ole Miss, we did, you know, Dak has played at Mississippi State, right? Oh, you're a giant. I mean, he's a dart is running his mouth. And we'll see what Quinn Williams, a company do. And then you got to go to the Rams next week.

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