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We welcome in the host of the Jason Gregor Show. Jason Gregor himself from

two till six. Greg's good morning. You're with KK and Eddie Steele.

Thanks for jumping on sports 1440. Hey, before we bust this game down nuts and bolts,

simple question right off the hop. Would you send Tristan Jari down and bring Cal Pickard up?

Well, he definitely clear waivers, so you don't have to worry about anybody claiming him, right?

Good question.

It's a tough problem. I think I would probably want to be honest with you.

I don't know. I think I would. I think I would. Why not on the follow-up, Greg's?

Well, last night, I didn't find anything last night was. I didn't think there was a glaring

terrible goal. He also didn't make any big stops, but I think if you send him down,

you're pretty much, you know, it's kind of good night, Irene. Yeah, you're closing the

page on him. Yeah. It's a tough one, but I mean, I look at it in a number of ways and people

talk about, you know, Cal Pickard, but right now, first of all, this is Conor Ingraham's team

right now. It's his goal for the rest of the year in my mind.

Well, it's definitely his, yeah, Intelli and tell someone else shows him better. The funny thing

is Matt Tomkins is actually playing better than Calvin Pickard in the minors, but minors

numbers don't matter. Might just going to be Cal Pickard who automatically gets called up, but

that was just a bad effort from the entire team last night. I know it's easy to always just

want to blame the goalie, but the orders weren't ready to play from, from the opening face-offs.

Like the only good news for that game was the order fans could have turned it off after one

period and done something else and not have to worry about knowing what the final score would be.

Yeah. It's interesting with the oilers to coming off of such a good game against Colorado.

We always talk about the ceiling being so high with this team, but the floor can be so low with

them and that just makes you scratch your head, doesn't it? Yes. They have not been able to find

any consistency this year. That to me is apparent from they've only won three in a row once.

Heck, the Vancouver connox have won three in a row two times and one was a four game or like

all the all the bad teams, the teams who'd aren't in the playoffs have done it and the order is just

they can't get out of their own way. They just they have a good game and then they've decided,

you know what, like how many turnovers in Leon dry so I'll have on the power play last night.

Like come on, it's this team's commitment to consistency has not been there at all.

Like they're still searching for it this year.

Yeah. In the sense though, I was telling Eddie that what happened after the end of the second

period, Griggs, I thought honestly that the team was going to be getting back into the game.

When you saw what happened with Connor and Leon and they're both in the box,

I honestly thought that, you know, they were going to get back in the game but they didn't kill

that penalty and then she was lights out. Did you like the response at times and then there was

another, you know, another little altercation in the third as well? Well, that's that's really one

of the few positives. Like when you compare so big David of all people, which is good. I don't

care what your name is. If you feel like your teammates being wronged, it's your job. First guy

there to do something and he didn't like that they shot the puck, you know, I don't know

that I'm sure he shot the puck in him on purpose, but who cares? You're losing five,

two, you do something. You compare that to what happened when Radco, Goudus,

need awesome matters and know anything. So yeah, like that's, you know, at least at least your

team stood up for one another and that's something that can galvanize a team a little bit.

The third period, you know, there wasn't a whole bunch of focus on hockey. I still wish

one of the one of the orders kind of, you know, smaller guys would have went after Ritzkovian.

Yeah. Right. I think it like to get him to drop the gloves like Trent Frederick smart.

Trent Frederick drops his gloves there. He's probably getting two, ten in a game. So he's not

going to do it against a smaller guy, but I would have liked like Spencer stashney. Somebody

like that like my god, that guy's a little he's a little garden gnome. You don't have to be worried

about him. Somebody should have went after the what that was in his weight class. That's my only

complaint is somebody in his weight class. And you don't have to be a tough guy to go after him.

It's not like Ritzkovian's a tough guy. No, I'm with you. And I thought that they would get him

eventually because he was running around like a little weasel. I don't like that. Hey,

guess what? Having weasels is good. You need it. It's for a long time, man. Like, who do the orders

have like, well, um, Clayton Burke came up and ran around and hit everybody and chirped everybody

and order fans like, oh my god, this guy is like the McDavid oven forcers. We need him signed

for 25 years because they never see that. Like the orders are good at reacting. They're not

good at initiating very often. Yeah, it's very valid, man. How how atrocious was that powerplay

last night? All of it for the oilers. I mean, Dallas was more dangerous on the PK than the oilers

were on the power play. Yeah. Well, that's what yeah, I agree. Oh, Harleys. Now their power plays

lights out. So, um, there's rare nights. But last night, they, they just looked like a powerplay that

wasn't in sync. As I mentioned, like, dry saddle. How many times he missed passes last night? Like,

they just, you know, when the order is doing and here's like, when somebody misses a pass

the dry saddle, you know, he'll, he'll let him know. Somebody on the orders might have

wanted to let him know last night at some point say, Hey, buddy, get your head in the game here for us

because, you know, they had a few power play chances when it was five to two, like late in the

second period, that's the power play that could have changed all of a sudden you score there.

Now it's five to three and the orders go to the room. Hey, boys, we're still in this and Dallas

is like, what the hell's going on? But they, they took penalties and then it was lights up.

What do you think that the stars did basically to, you know, Conor McDavid's line because

really they didn't generate much in Conor, Zach Hyman or Ryan Newgen Hopkins?

No, I felt that, um, well, there's Heisken and man, these, these are him and Lindell,

if we're good. And I, I felt that they did a really good job of not allowing McDavid to have

much speed through the neutral zone. A lot of their defensive checking started. I felt right at

the, at the orders blue line, like, they didn't generate anything off the rush last night. Nothing.

Now, Edmonton didn't have the puck much in the first period either. So, you know, and every time

they did, there was a turnover. I just thought it was aggressive forecheck in the offensive zone

that led to Edmonton never really getting any speed through the neutral zone because that's,

that's their biggest forte for that line is speed to the neutral zone. And, um, I'd have to look

up the numbers from Claire site, but I wonder if McDavid even had one rush chance last night.

Yeah, I don't know if I remember if I recall that either, yeah.

Yeah. Jason Robertson had two goals to assist. Um, where do you think his contract lands?

I mean, Ranton ends at 12. Is he at the same? Um, what are your thoughts? Would he goes for his

next contract? Eddie's point, Eddie's pointing up. I think even more. Well, you know, the salary

cap goes up a lot. So for people who like to use percentage of salary cap, then he'll probably go

higher. Um, there is, there's, I think there's Alex Tuck and really nobody else on the free agent

market. Now he's an RFA, but there's going to be a lot of teams who are like, damn, man, we need a

90 point score because that's what this guy is. Right? Like he, he's been 109. Then it was 80 twice

and what is he got? I think like 73 is on pace. He's going to get 90 points again this year. So

average of four years. And that's a guy who's pretty much a 90 point score over a four-year span.

There's not a lot of those guys in the NHL. And he's not even UFA agent. Now he's one-year shot

of the pit still. He's 26, right? So I, he's born in 1999. I guess he'll be 27 in this summer. So

he, he's going to have, you know, plus this, he's got what? Six months of of eight-year deal.

Now Dallas is the only team that could do that. So it could be a sign and trade, right? Which could

help Dallas get even more in the deal. So I think Robertson has lots of negotiating power.

But if I'm the Dallas stars and I just went out and got rancid in and you look at the top teams,

like look at Tampa Bay when they won. How many, how many elite guys that they have? Four,

five. Look at Florida. All right. Edmonton's got two of the best. They've been to two Stanley Cup

finals. If you just let Robertson go for draft picks when you're in your window to win,

doesn't make any sense to me. Dallas stars have to find a way to get him signed, right?

Trade Tyler Sagan. He's got one year left in his deal. Whatever. Eat some money.

That's what they have to do. Like to me, this is a no-brainer for Jim Nill and the Dallas stars.

You figured out to keep this guy signed. I just think too. For him, where else is he going to go

where he has an opportunity like this? He's on one of the best teams with a core group that is

therefore a long time. They've got a good goal tender. Their defense is great. So for me,

if they offered him, if they said here, here's eight times 12, I'm signing it if I'm him all day.

I'm not trying to get 13 or 15. Yeah. Well, that 100%. That's that's totally dialogue.

Right. So like to me, they're what they do with Tyler Sagan. Now, that's obviously going to be

the hard thing, right? I don't know if you can if you can move him or not, but that's that's the guy

that got to move or it's one year. I have to look at their cap to see. He's got one more year.

The cap. Yeah. He's got one more year. I know he's got one more year. No, no, no, no move. Yeah.

No move. And we all knew you could do it for even if you have to bite the bullet and do it for one

year and and just live with Sagan. It's contracting. Maybe he becomes Jamie Ben, right? The following

year, right? Or like a pretty big discount because he's not as productive anymore. Plus, he's injured.

And then hey, Sagan stays three or four. But if if the numbers can work for one year,

I'm the Dallas stars. I don't even hesitate. I'm with you. Like this, this should not be a tough

decision. All Jason Robertson's bet on himself. And so far, it's looking like a really good bet.

Yeah. I also look at, you know, maybe Sagan, he's taken a lot of bullets here. He's been hurt and

he's a beat up guy. He's got a lot of miles on him. Maybe something maybe somewhere and there's

a possibility that they do something like an Alex Patrangelo. Maybe Sagan goes, I'm done, you know,

and that's a Patrangelo scenario. Yeah. Yeah. I never know. It's possible. Like you hold not

for, for sure. But yeah, that's, that's, or you know what it is, Kevin? Like, maybe you,

you're like, God, we're really tight to the cap. And then two months into the season, he gets injured

again. And now he's on LTIR and you've got all the cap space like God this year. Exactly.

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Hey, I wanted to circle back to the Matthew's goodest thing and just how the

no one can believe that the response that the Leafs had or lack thereof. And then when you saw

the chief after Craig Barubi talking about it, like the way he played, like he just he can't believe

what he just saw. No one has words for this. No, like now they did come back and win. So I give

Toronto credit there down three to one. And Morgan Riley said, hey, that's on me and that's a nice

thing to say. But I think that's the second time I've heard guys in Toronto. That's on me for

doing nothing. So it tells me and that it's I'm not surprised by Kevin because I've said this

for years. The reason Toronto doesn't win and is never won is because they never had a dog if we

want to, you know, amongst their top guys. They got lots of skill, but they never had a guy,

like, look, economic David of all people, economic David, I'm kind of a now they're getting their

butt kicked. So he's probably pissed off. But he said, Ryan Nugent Hopkins, remember what I don't

remember who it was in front of the net, but just me, I'm a motel God hit and Nugent Hopkins goes

over and freaking tunes up Justin Hall for God's sake. He's a proper guy. I remember that.

Zach timing off the face off. And it gave us like, are you sure in the comments like, yeah,

I'm all right. And then he drops the gloves and he fights like all their best guys are willing to

do it, right? Like dry side, I was not going to fight. McDavid's not going to fight. But those guys

get engaged and they do stuff, right? And I just look at at Toronto and they got none of that,

right? Like Mitch Mariner was never going to do it. Matthew's never does it. Neilander doesn't

do it. Morgan Riley doesn't do it. John Tavares doesn't do it. And you know what? That's okay if

you can't ask guys to be what you're not. But on a winning team, everybody has to be willing to

get their hands dirty. At least to the point of a roughing coincidental minor or taken extra penalty

like McDavid did last night. And you don't see that off enough from Toronto. And so the coach can

instill that ask Eddie. He played the coach can't come in the room and say, okay, what are you guys?

Has to be the guy. No, you either have it or you don't. And the fact that Toronto has traded

it away any like Hyman had it, trading away. Well, geez, wasn't it was too expensive to keep,

right? They've always gotten rid of their guys who have any sort of gumption. And it's an

organizational problem. And I'd get rid of some of my guys who have skill and bring in guys who

have it because you know other guys who have it. And they just don't have any of their top guys with

Darcy Tucker. All that sound like that's what they need. Yeah. Well, hey, get shocking. Those

teams are pretty competitive. That's what I mean. That's something that's indeed was competitive.

He didn't have to be it. But they had a lot of guys around him who would do it. And you can't win

when you don't have that. Like 100% you can't do it. Very interesting. Something that I think I've

seen. Maybe I could be wrong more out of McDavid this year as a whole to because I saw it in the Olympics

as his physicality. I know that he ramps up his play, especially in the playoffs and he plays

pretty reckless. But I've seen him lay the body on people a lot more in the past. I don't know,

365. It seems like he plays with a more physical presence. Look what he did to Sam steel right before

he got into it with Myers and took the penalty. He laid him out cleared out the net.

Yeah. You know what? McDavid's highly competitive, right? You see it. But yeah, we've seen it in the

playoffs. I can't remember who it was against the Kings when he just ran him over right in front of

the bench a few years ago. Like McDavid's, he's such a good skater that obviously can close space

on anybody. And he's, he puts up a ton of points. I know what time says, you know, he's not going

to win the silky. I don't need him to win the silky. I don't give two sports if he's ever out for

the silky. But his competitiveness, no one can ever question, right? He gets even even dry settle

the grumpy German. He'll deliver a few hits. You know, he sticks guys. He's always yapping at guys.

Like those, those guys are never intimidated, right? Um, you know, the team's not playing great

right now. There's, there's no debate on that. And, but those guys, when the chips are down,

they're engaged. And you can't say that about Toronto's guys. And I've said that for years. I

would have, and that with the thing is under Dubas, under, it was noticeable for years that they

didn't have that guy. And like even going back to when they signed to bars, I like John Tvars,

one of the nicest guys consistent player, really solid player doesn't have that fight. You know,

he's not aggressive. That's fine. Like I said, Matt Sundin didn't have it, but he had a bunch of

guys around him who did. And Toronto has never seen that. And now look where they are guys. They're

not in the playoffs this year. Yeah. Where are they going to get back next year? Like it's not like

they're missing a ton of players. They got their whole team all year and they're not a playoff team.

Well, we'll see what the winners can do. And if they can beat St. Louis tonight, as we mentioned,

they were in Carolina. The Blues last night. So it's a tough back to back for both teams.

You win tonight, Greg's. It's three out of four on a tough road trip. And you take that all day

long. What's coming up on your show today at two big game? That's exactly it. It's you can

last night's stunk for the orders. But if they win tonight, anybody out there would have said,

if the order is going to win three out of four, this is a really good road trip. So the

opportunities there, they got to show up. And the Blues, actually, I think I did the travel.

Blues are actually traveling farther. It's 45 minutes more. Yeah. Right. So we'll discuss that.

Also, we're going to talk a little, hey, we're going to talk about SGA. You kid me set the record

last night for 127 consecutive games. And you look at the stuff he's doing, man. It's impressive.

It's not just his scoring. It's his assist. He doesn't turn the ball over. He is a hell of a

player. So we'll talk about a Canadian at times that one of the greatest Canadians going right now.

He's jack told me, you know, let's say, and like I said, the shack said SGA is the best player

in the NBA. And he's going to be for a while. Who was I to argue with Shaquille O'Neal sitting

down his own tallest. There is no argument. Hey, Greg, you see KK shared today?

What about the one yesterday? Like, was that an Easter egg? Where we're going to Vegaville?

You know, all I can tell you all I can barely even came up. It was so it was like,

he was trying to be in the matrix like all the all the different screens going up lines up and

down. It didn't really seem much. It was phenomenal. He just went shopping though. Didn't he?

You can tell he went to the store. He's like a kid in elementary school. And he's wearing all

his new shirts every day. All I can say is, is Laddie came in and Duke expected Laddie to blow me

up? And Laddie looked and said, I like it. It looks very European. You look great. Oh, yeah.

Buddy, you know what? Hey, that's the that was the like as my wife said, she goes, that's all

guys trying to look younger. Oh, stop it. Don't trace the way back. I do like the purple one,

though. I like the purple one a lot. Okay. Thanks for that. That's his. Oh, he's a

Loki Vikings fan. Yeah. Kyler Murray signed today. So he was feeling happy. No, Eddie usually

wears his move in on Friday. So I was trying to kind of compliment that. Now Eddie, I just curious

though, like, is your chair down on the lowest run today? Oh, wow, you know what?

What are you? A chair up or something? Oh, my man. My knee is jacked up. So when it hangs,

it gets sore, Greg's. I got to sit down the ground. I can't believe you just call me open that.

Well, I noticed it. First I was like, holy cow's. What is Eddie? The smallest guy going on. It's

like your rob rage on the interview. You have to sit up higher. Thanks, Greg's. Have a good show

today in a good weekend. Thanks, pal. I always have a good one.

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