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Our guest this week must be an astrophysicist because he'd be shooting stars.

He's riding with no hands because you know sex cells, even if the F stop.

You've undoubtedly seen his photos from the parties you weren't invited to, and on the

covers of magazines you didn't read, but you did all go over the pics on IG.

He's your favorite models, favorite yapper, and runs more sets than bloods and crypts,

and he got dripped.

That's that Hampton water.

Take a day off from shooting for the biggest names in fashion to rip a pop with the boys

and chat about the most diva slubs he's worked with, dick-pick pro tips, and the next chat

of his career photographer, Tyrell Hampton, Tyrell, how the hell are you?

I'm good, happy, happy president day.

That was insane.

I love obsessed.

Do you like here?

I did not buy care.

I took a nice fat SUV.

Oh, we should let us know when we will reimburse you for the Uber, not even kidding.

No, I enjoy it.

So actually, my favorite thing to do is get in and feel like a skinny girl inside their

big SUV in the driver just doesn't talk to me.

Uber black.

Yes, SUV.

Oh, right, even.

Of course.

Uber XL.

Of course.

An XL girlie.

I have to.

I need room for my Chanel's.

Yeah.

And I need room for my camera equipment.

Are you connecting the Bluetooth or are you just going sunglasses on, AirPods in?

If they're nice.

And you can always judge if they're nice by how they greet you when you get in the

car.

So if they greet me and they're like, hi, how are you?

Then I'm like, oh my gosh.

Can I connect?

Let's get started.

And I can tell by their vibe, what type of music we're going to listen to.

You're DJing for the crowd?

Yeah.

Wait, whoa.

I'm a people pleaser.

So what was the situation on the way over here?

I played nothing.

I was on TikTok.

Okay.

And watching you guys as much as I mentioned with Hugo.

What's your Uber rating?

4.7.

Oh, it's great.

4.76 I think.

It's like a minus.

Just a FI.

Get below 4.2 as I did one time.

You just, you just doing your testless, make a new account.

You're good.

You only get testless after that.

Honestly.

I'm scared.

Maybe that's going to get car sick after that.

They need to make a no-testal option.

But it's like, if you get a black car, just don't consider a Tesla in no shade to all

shade test that as a corporation, yolo, teach his own, but like it just doesn't count

as a black car.

No.

It's not luxurious to me.

It's a camera.

It's not sexy to me.

Yeah.

Give me a Lexus on a bin.

Yeah.

Because there's colors on the outfit and it's like pink and I'm like, I saw the reddest

car I've ever seen my entire life.

Right.

This is not Nicki Minaj now being an Uber driver.

No.

And I'm like, even her, I maybe would get in.

No shade.

Yeah.

Just to like have like a taxi cab.

Confessions moment.

Wait, how do you get a 4.2 real quick?

What did he do?

I used to just want to get out of the car while on a bridge.

Are you serious?

You should love me out here.

You should love me out here.

Talk me on a therapist about that.

I'm good.

Do you have anxiety?

What?

Do you have anxiety?

I was like, I fucking love New York.

I just want to walk home now.

Oh, you're just like eager to get out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He loves life.

He has too much raw to veeve to be a five-part know-how.

Are you one of those people who like, like, before you start peeing, keep fleshed the toilet?

No.

There's people in the world who like, to race it?

Yeah.

Like, they're like just always in a rush.

Live in dangerously.

No, no.

It's more like, I want to like, saver the, you know, the life in this life in the big

apple.

No, because I'm like already paid for it.

That's my mind.

I'm like, I already paid for it.

So I'm like, there's no point in me stopping this car because I, my money's gone.

So I'm like, I'm minus well right into the last second.

Everyone.

Look, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

I'm like, mine as well.

Okay.

Yolo.

I love that.

That's, that's a great philosophy.

I'm very optimistic.

You mentioned, you mentioned the Shanei.

Let's do a quick fit check.

What's everything that you wore today to the podcast?

Sorry.

Yeah, let's start with the piece they were just all.

My Chanel bag, I have my Supreme hat, shout out to all the boys that work at the

store who give me things for free.

And Malena, how big is your bag collection?

It's huge.

Yeah.

It's actually like, like, if you doze, maybe more.

Really?

For in terms of Chanel, I have three Chanel's, but the rest, I, it's really expansive.

And I'm trying to find a way to like, not go full gay and have like a woman's, like

sure.

Closet with my bags everywhere, but I'm trying to like, make them not so just thrown

everywhere.

What's your most used bag right now?

It's my other Chanel bag, okay.

It's a hobo bag, which was my favorite bag and it's the first one that I wanted.

And then I got that.

And I just use it every day, but I was like, I'm not doing anything in it.

But my big thing with bags is I, when I first moved to New York, I went to the military

story around the corner, like, on, um, Houston.

And I got this little bag and it just fit my camera.

So I just was like, I just need a bag to fit my camera in the tools.

Yeah.

Because I got money.

I was like, okay, now we can like, invest in like sexy moments.

So now it's like, we throw the camera in the Gucci bag.

We could throw the camera in the levy.

We kept the same shitty camera, but we kept the same shitty camera.

But now it's back for every day of the week.

Yes.

But now I need the new bags to fit like two for three.

So I have like multiple cameras in the bag.

Your whole rig.

Yeah.

But this one has literally nothing.

What's your dream bag talking burpees?

No, actually hate.

Birkin.

Are we in a bitch?

Are we in a burky backlash?

I think there's so like housewife like, I think it's like, it's just not what people

make it with Jane would have wanted.

Oh, it's been bastardized.

Like you know what I mean?

Like, it's not a precious, Jane wanted Kanye handing out a dozen at Lucy on.

Like, yes.

Okay.

Cause happy like his tremendous.

Yeah.

Wow.

You almost told us that.

Yes.

I just don't think it was intended to be like this pristine.

Not beat up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I hate it.

My dream bags are probably be I think I got it honestly because I was I was saying

I want to shop today and there's nothing that I really want.

So.

Well, Celine, you mentioned.

I do want the new product back.

I mean, the new the new Chanel bag.

There's a new Chanel.

It's like amazing rich red Travis Scott, not Travis Scott.

It's that rocky word to the Chanel.

So it's probably like the bag that I want.

It looks so rich and juicy and I just want that juicy bags.

Well, if the pod goes well enough, you should treat yourself as I mean, hey, are our bags

your biggest like splash out thing that in terms of clothing and accessories?

Yeah.

Honestly, like I again, with the outfit I'm wearing.

Yeah.

Sort of go to the loom from Amazon and screaming, row jeans.

Oh, and that's a torch and then uggs.

What are the uggs?

It's like, uh, yeah, the new Ugg, the new Ugg slipper.

Shout out to our friends at what are these socks?

These socks are uniclo.

Oh, I only buy socks of uniclo in the coat.

Yeah.

My coat is Calvin Klein, new Calvin or vintage Calvin?

They sent it to me.

So I honestly have a new presumably, presumably, no, not my stamp.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The panties are their calvans, their Calvin and palace.

Have you shot nice?

Nice.

Have you shot anything for Calvin?

Yes.

I have.

Actually, I've shot something recently with Jenny.

Oh, yeah.

In the past, I've shot in things where I didn't have any budget, but I have yet to be on

the billboard yet.

Oh.

And I've been in a campaign as well with one of my good friends, Dominic Bike, and we

look like we're in a relationship.

Wow.

In front of it behind the lens.

Yeah.

What can he do?

In front of the lens.

In front of the lens.

Yeah.

Shot by Alex there, McClennan, who is one of my favorite photographers.

Yes.

Did you guys stuff?

Stuff the panties.

Oh, yeah.

No, I wanted to do.

I worked out.

I starved myself for a week to do that.

Because I thought I was going to get the underwear, but I didn't.

That was for Dominic.

Take a puffer jacket.

No, they were like, they gave it to, um, what is it, my friend, John Carlos, they gave

it to him and his body and his hair.

It was him.

It was, it was all about him.

Right.

So I want to start myself.

AKA, didn't drink for a month before a shoot that we had and then ended up wearing to

like slim down in the face and ended up just, uh, wearing like a full zip hoodie situation.

So you can even see my face.

It's so fucked up how they do that.

Like you're like preparing and doing a lot of things and they're just like,

let's just put you in a hoodie.

Yeah.

What if a sleeping bag would look great.

Like ski suit.

Yeah.

Just did all this work.

So that's why I'm in my single air.

I know an Instagram.

I'm doing it.

Taking every chance I have like today.

I was like, whatever happens after this, like, I'm going to go outside and I need to like

still try to find a husband because that's my goal.

Listen, the photos that you're posting on IG recently, those are the types of photos

that people put on Twitter and like, rock, put them in a string bikini.

Yeah.

Like this is like, we're going to, we're going to get into thirst traps, big picks and

all that.

What's the, the jewelry, the hardware?

Is it earrings only?

It's earrings only.

They are from studs and I have 20 pairs of them actually.

What?

One of my friends actually break all the time.

They're like, I wouldn't say they're cheap, no shade, just studs, but they just break

so easily.

They come out of my ears.

Okay.

Every other hour.

So you always have a pair on deck breaking case of emergency.

I thought you'd be losing your earrings.

That's just like, that's the quality of studs.

But yeah.

But again, no shade of studs.

I'm going to make this specific earring because I can't find anywhere else.

Oh.

Like custom.

Like icy.

Yes.

Got it.

It's time.

Yeah.

All right.

And you're sipping on some water.

All right.

Duration is key.

Folks.

All right.

Tyrone.

Most important question first.

What is your secret to ripping over the Williamsburg Bridge on a city bike with no hands?

Pilates.

And maybe not cardiac arrest.

What's the word?

Cardinal.

Not goalieosis either.

But it would be my posture.

I say, I would say it's my posture.

Good.

Good posture.

Yeah.

Squeezier.

Squeeze your core.

No.

Yeah.

And your kegels.

I actually don't do kegels.

You're not gripping that sea.

Yeah.

It's fighting for dear life.

It really is the abs.

Really?

It really is the abs.

But how do you like see your thing, right?

You are filming with one hand, which is visible.

Yeah.

And then with the other hand, you're just belting away like a diva singing an aria in

limiz.

So it really are going no hands.

And you're like swirving too.

Yes.

Which is why I now bike at certain times of the day.

So it's empty because there's always almost been accidents where I'm cold.

I'm just a little lighting because I'm just like really nilly on the bridge.

You need to blink canvas for your content that is operating at an extremely high level.

There's like run clubs.

There's like acidic families of like, well, literally, then it's like right now, like maybe

like 3 p.m.

2 p.m.

All of a sudden, there's like a bunch of kids getting out of school.

And then they sometimes I love you guys yell my name and then I get really scared.

Wow.

I love you.

And I'm like, well, I'm focused right now, you guys.

Right.

I'm filming content.

And then one time I ran into a friend and I was wearing a cowboy hat and this whole

length denim get up.

And I was like, you just just need to go.

You're putting my guy at work right now.

You need to lead my office.

Like that's my office.

Right.

My place.

Yeah.

The city bike is the bridge is your office.

It really is.

There are a lot of run-ins on the bike path.

And I always instinctively go to that and you're like, that's so stupid on the bike.

Like, yeah, like as you're crossing your friends, you're like, no, this is so dumb.

Let's not do this.

No, I would be so scared.

When you do post like seven TikToks in a row of you bombing down the bridge, are you

doing laps and like going down and like like back up and then going down and then going

back?

Are you?

Yeah.

Preparative.

Yes.

I get a lot of energy and I'm seeing my songs and it's like a little therapy for me.

So I'm nice.

Do you have a city bike playlist that we could maybe share?

I don't.

I do have a Spotify.

It's public.

But I've come to realize that people have made Spotify playlists of the songs that.

Oh, wow.

Wow.

That's flattering.

On TikTok.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I'm like, this is, this is really amazing.

Have you ever had a moment when you're in the office doing your job that you had even

a one degree of being self conscious of like someone watching you do your thing or you're

like, nothing else is happening outside of my purpose.

Nothing else happening.

Okay.

I only get scared when there's maybe again, if there's maybe too many people, which too

many people to me is maybe like three plus me.

So then I'm like, I just need to be conscious of like how, how we're biking and be, um,

safety first.

Yes.

Of course.

Good Samaritan over here.

I'm not wearing a helmet.

I'm carrying flowers.

I'm carrying suitcases.

A lot of props.

It's a thing.

So make sure that sometimes there's ice cream.

There's tacos.

Yeah.

So I'm just making sure that like everyone is like accounted for.

Like props guy.

Yes.

The lighting is great.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Uh, what do you think of, what do you think of mom Donnie fixing the, the Williamsburg

bridge bump on the Manhattan side?

It still causes traffic, so, but yeah, I still appreciate him, but didn't really do anything

for me because I've never, that's not my, that's like the doorway to my job.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's the front door to your office.

Yeah.

Like that's like the hump.

Right.

Where I'm like, okay.

Now it's time to clock in.

Yeah.

You need that boot up to like, yeah, lock in.

That's my shot.

In, um, inception when you fucking fall back.

Yeah.

Yes.

I just watched.

Um, what is it with Bradley Cooper?

Limitless.

Just watch limitless for the first time.

That's your pill.

Yes.

That's the pill.

Fucking amazing.

So the Adderall, which I'm like, okay, tea like I didn't know that this is what the

vibes are.

I'm like, I'm like, do I sign up?

Do I not?

Like, sure.

The water's warm.

Come on in.

I mean, hey, if it makes your eyes that blue, then I'm like, I'm dokey down.

Think about how well, how many more, uh, how better you could be a biking if you were just

on Adderall.

True.

I mean, I take Lemmy's.

I don't know if you guys know what that is.

It's courting Kardashians like gummies.

Okay.

Oh, I sometimes take your melatonin pills.

Yes.

But they have, um, like Lemmy tone, Lemmy de blow, Lemmy fiber, like all these things.

And it's, I don't know if it's a placebo or if it's working or if it's not working,

but it genuinely gives me an energy boost.

Oh, okay.

I'm going to look into that.

There's a Lemmy.

There's a Lemmy play for like Clark Kardashian.

Lemmy sponsor the pod.

Namaste.

Yep.

Got it.

I like the courting honey pack.

The Kardashian honey pack.

Persis slaves.

Me and my friends always try to make up a new like pill.

Like, what is it, um, fuck, we just did like Lemmy, Lemmy shut the fuck up and it may

be like, uh, some sort of like, um, it's just a giant pill that's a ball gag.

Yeah.

Or like, maybe like, it's like, oh, it's like a microdose of wheat or something like

that.

And you're just like, let me shut the fuck up.

And you're like, just silent.

Yeah, I'm having an exciting attack on the inside, but I'm not ruining everyone else's

time.

100%.

You got the function and you're like, let me just take this really quick.

I think of living in mom, Donnie, Stan, uh, Ramadan, Mubarak.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You grew up Muslim.

Yes.

I did.

Is there anything in the fashion slash downtown party scene that you still consider

Haram that you won't touch, um, honestly, everything, I tell you know, it's fun and

good.

Yeah.

Honestly, everything.

I feel like, yeah, I'm pretty, I'm, when I grew up, I wasn't supposed to be doing anything

I couldn't listen to music.

I was allowed to have posts on my wall.

We listened to like prayer every morning in the, in the car, like it was very like black

and white in the house.

Like no color.

We like to be gay.

No.

No.

Number one on the list.

But I never came out.

So shout out to my mom for that.

Are you still in the closet?

No, like I never had to.

Okay.

Outdoor.

Oh my god.

Oh my god.

Let me shut the fuck up.

I'm like, Mom.

Cut.

Got the camera.

I need one of those.

Let me shut the fuck up.

I'm, Courtney.

It's time.

Courtney.

Hashtag.

Let me throw in fits.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let me try to keep everyone in the closet.

Yeah.

Hey.

Tis the season.

2026.

When did you, when did you like find?

I find out that I was gay.

No.

When did you, when were you able to spread your gay, when were you able to spread your gay wings

and like put posters on your wall?

Um.

Of hot boys.

Literally hot boys.

It was that kind of front and front blue.

It was maybe in around like middle school.

We would go, when we'd go to Walmart.

Shout out Walmart.

Shout out Walmart.

Saving closet boys.

Hey.

One of the top.

One time.

At a time.

Yeah.

My mom's been one aisle and I'm just looking at the packaging.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

So take what you can get.

You know.

One sip at a time.

I'm saying.

No, it was, there was the tiger beat magazines.

Yeah.

And like all those like old pop star magazines for like basically teenage white women.

Yeah.

But I just thought that I was a teenage white woman at myself when I was maybe like 11.

So therefore I just deliberately upon myself to have those magazines ripped the things out

of the magazines, take them home.

I would put like the Hollister bags on my wall.

I just became really intro into like literally the bags, like savoring things.

Like I used to say for seats, tags, like every memory that I could ever find out.

It would be on my wall.

And from then being black and white, my mom would just become accepting tonight.

Just like stick a photo on there.

And she read magazines.

And so then I kind of like, so that's her magazines and like put them on my wall.

And I didn't realize how much of like a manifestation those things were.

Oh, wow.

Because I had like the theory.

They had this like lookbook.

And I got it.

And it was on my wall.

And I've shot for theory in the past.

But I was like, nice.

Thinking back.

I was like, did I manifest that?

Put it into the universe.

Sure.

Like with your porn as packaging.

You know, live.

And like I didn't even realize that that's what I wanted until I happened.

Did you think that like repressing not just your sexuality, but music, pop culture,

I don't know, funds, partying, like did, did repressing that when you got to New York

and you're on your own.

Founded 18.

We're just like, I got to just eat up life.

Yeah.

Do it all.

Because I really eat her.

Well, I was at three.

Hashtag.

In high school, it was very much like dance school.

Like the, my life was planned out for me every day.

Yeah.

So I think I actually moved to New York when I was 17 and barely legal.

I didn't drink at all during high school and like didn't have the time to honestly.

So even when I moved here, my main thing, it's kind of sad was to just like hang out with

people.

That's not sad.

That's socializing.

Yeah.

But like I feel like everyone else got that sort of moment in high school or middle school.

Like where they could like hang out with someone after school.

My mom happened when she was 21.

So therefore I was just like watching my brother and I just had to grow up really fast.

I didn't have a childhood.

So when I moved here, it was like my time to be like, I don't really care about anything.

I just want to hang out.

I just want to run around like I had my little camera.

I would just like be by myself walking around the streets listening to music.

Like I think that's where the, you're like vlogging the farmer's market.

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I mean, yes.

I didn't even realize where I was in that problem.

I didn't even know that I was in Brooklyn at the time.

I was just following my friends who were from LA who just like honestly, persons I went

to persons was like a wake up call as much as like I love gossip girl was kind of like

you go there and like bitch, this is really rich.

Yeah.

Like bitch got money.

Like like there's a farmer's market money.

No, like farmer's market money is very different than like GMO money like GMO money.

I'm on that GMO money.

Like I'm like, let's get the meal plan.

Let's go to the what we have to do.

And seeing like all the, all the girls and the designers I found go yard there.

I found all the snow the Berkins in real life.

And I was just like, this is just insane.

I think that's when I was like, I, this is like my playground.

You're real in my plague.

A real education of the time.

Yeah.

And I was just shooting everything I could see it, which I think is like why I have this

like child like wonder still to this day.

Like I just was like enamored like that's one of my things now.

Sometimes I'm like, when shooting and I'm like, it's better if I don't meet the person

or I don't know the person.

So I can really explore them and like be like, let's go for a walk and like, let me try

to understand you and like, let's hang out like it should feel like that.

Love hanging out.

That's what I do.

I do.

I really do quality time.

I love it.

Right.

So parents, if you want your children to grow up to be successful creatives with a

swat of even child, like wonder, just repress the fuck out of them.

Yeah.

Well, make them grow up quick and then hit them with an arrested development on the flip

side.

And you're going to get the perfect mixture.

I'm saying lock them in the room.

Like you have to have two kids want and then have them 10 years apart.

And then you're like, so the oldest, you are now the parent.

I'm going to go out live my life.

Oh right.

Your mom didn't have your brother at 11 at 31.

I was just doing the math and I was like, okay, we're good.

Yeah.

We're good.

We're good.

We're good.

We're good.

We're good.

We're good.

We're good.

We're good.

We're good.

You're good.

We're good.

We're good.

We're good.

We're good.

We're good.

with straight men or a lot of us, huh?

Can we come to your parties?

I don't throw any parties,

but there was a fat party on Friday

that you guys met at Emily's at Mulberry Bar.

Oh, oh, we've been, we've been.

It was 10 out of 10.

Oh, it was 10 out of 10.

It was invite.

We've been texting at that point.

We were texting.

Honestly, it wasn't my party to do it right.

It wasn't your place.

I was more so like.

You crash parties or do you just like show up

and be like, oh, Tyrell's here, you're good.

Yeah.

I used to crash parties.

Yeah, but now I either stay inside

or I get invited.

Okay.

So how many events are you hitting up every week?

It depends what kind of events

we're talking about here.

Like, just give it a week.

Like, let's say, if we're going like out with friends,

that's like weekends.

So maybe like Friday, Saturday,

maybe a Thursday situation, if it's like an event,

like this past fashion week,

it was kind of like one every day.

Oh, well, I mean, it's just the active time there.

Wait, what makes this so you said a 10 out of 10 party?

What makes a 10 out of 10 party?

The music.

Okay.

Ones, no shade to the Ones people.

No, I need, I need lyrics and I need to like,

that's, that was so great about the party on Friday,

is she played, there was a woman DJ, women and STEM,

was she was playing like, chief key,

and like, walk a floccah and like,

I don't know them.

You know what I mean?

It was like 10 out of 10, like I was having

the best time singing along, shaking ass on the floor.

And I just feel like, if the music is horrible at a party,

then you can't zone out.

And if you can't zone out at a party

and you're like too focused on like,

getting the drink or like doing the drugs

or like doing the thing.

Say, you can't zone out, get the ketamine.

You know what I mean?

If you need to be like, in the music and the vibes

to be like, I'm just floating.

What a legacy.

A flow state, let yourself go.

100%.

When you're hitting flow state,

or you're like, oh, fuck, I gotta shoot this bitch.

Like, not like that, but you know what I'm gonna say.

I used to, I don't do it much anymore,

cause now I'm like orchestrating the things

and making it, cause I guess I'm getting older.

I'm not a child anymore, I'm almost,

I'm almost 30.

So I feel like I can't like,

just shoot people willy-nilly and like be,

does that like mess you to stick a camera in someone's face?

It was when I was, when I was younger,

people would get mad at me.

I would definitely.

Oh, you're a professional vibe killer?

100%.

100%.

Cause I just was like,

I don't know if you guys know what China Shaleia is.

China Shaleia?

Of course.

Of course.

We were actually there.

So I mean, we lived it, brother.

Same here.

But we were of drinking age.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I would like go there and just shoot everything.

Cause obviously you guys know everyone was there.

Like everyone, all the models, producers,

like just fashion people.

And it was just like, it was like my sexness.

And you might go awesome.

Like the celebrities that I looked up to,

I could like shoot really nilly.

You're like a movie moment.

Yeah.

So like in the music was fab,

it had a little bit of oonspa,

a little bit of rap and a little bit of pop.

Like it ended up in a different room.

Skater boys.

A true melting pot.

So that was my flow state.

I was like moving in that bitch, not that bitch.

I was like, which room will I go in?

Hey guys, steal a seat here.

Go there.

So pop, pop, pop out.

Yeah.

But it would be like, then people were so not worried

about the cameras.

So I could shoot and like go really nilly.

Now everyone's so like looking around waiting for the camera.

I was going to say before posting party pics

that I before, do you have to get approvals

from the people in the photos?

No.

Really?

I'm like, you know what she was doing.

Well, you saw the flash.

So like the flash gives it away.

People are people are like, yo, yo, don't like.

No, I know I look like shit.

No, or I know I look, you know, because it's

tight rail, dude.

I think it was some fucking civilian.

Like from people get off that.

Shout out to me for that.

How good are your Photoshop skills

at erasing aren't light dust on us?

I don't Photoshop.

So what we see is what we see is what we get.

Literally.

I'm actually really bad at it.

I had a teacher who was like, you just,

you can't do cosmetics.

Well, cosmetic like photos, like, I don't know

if I would be good at like, I've done makeup

brand and stuff before, but like really going

and then being like editing and every blemish or whatever.

I just can't.

It's not it's too time consuming.

But you never post anything where people are like,

no, I want to see photo.

I want people to look sexy.

I want people to look hot.

But engaging in like some, you know,

deep I have in the past when we were going to me

and my friends were younger.

And there's some of my favorite images.

And who knows you might see them in a book or something.

But Ryan begins the action later on in life.

Yeah.

You got a book coming out?

We're working on it.

We're working on it.

What's the vibe?

It's all the party stuff just to like finish that chapter.

So I'm kind of like, again, I'm about to, I feel like,

every time I tell my agent this, I'm like, I'm almost 30.

He's like, it's 30 is nothing.

Right.

But I'm like, just to close out the chapter of the reference

and all the the childishness, I just want to be like,

put a bow on it.

Yeah.

Like, obviously, I'm going to shoot parties regardless.

I just love to do it.

But like, we just need to be like, we're grown

in like, we can now orchestrate these things and then we have

budget to orchestrate them in a sexy way and make it.

So like, it's not me and part of someone else's vision.

It's my own vision.

Gotcha.

Is it going to be like a kind of a snapshot,

no pun intended of like a time and place in New York City,

downtown culture, or is it just like your perspective

of the world or combination or something else?

I haven't thought that deeply about it honestly,

but I just know that I just have so much work

from my college years, my first initial years in New York

of like Toner Chalet and going out and like,

just all these people like throughout the years,

I've seen grown, who like have cut their hair,

who have had kids now and all this stuff.

So I feel like that's kind of,

it's more of a love letter to the people around me

rather than like, got it, everything else.

Is there a way out?

You have quite the crew.

Yeah.

It's a huge crew.

And it's only you're officially it.

Yeah.

So the next slide you're here.

You're the next one you're invited.

Is there a trick that you have to,

you know, when you're taking these photos,

like to make drunk people look good,

is there any like special trick that you have or?

It might be the dance background.

I just feel like in body language,

I'm really good at reading body language.

So like now when we're out in the club,

I can tell when we're on the dance floor,

when someone's gonna do something

and like once that moment's gonna happen.

You're anticipating.

Yeah, it's nice.

It's like you're shooting ahead of the target.

Yeah, literally.

But I see what's gonna happen.

I'm gonna be shooting content, I would say.

Really?

That's the guns if you shot.

Well, I have straight friends.

So, and I have a straight brother.

So when we go and hang on, like shoot cut.

What do you wanna do?

And then I'm like junior range.

Yeah.

So we go to the gun range.

Do people get pissed if you are shooting at a party?

And well, first of all, do people start acting like,

oh, like, oh, they start acting different

when you start showing by?

Now they're really?

Yeah.

And do you indulge that?

Or are you just like, no, I do not entertain it.

All right, so if you wanna get shot by this man

and you're at a party, do not act inconspicuously.

I'm like, all right, that's why one of my best friends,

Jordan, how Jordan Daniels, she just knows,

now we shoot professionally on set.

And if we're shooting other models,

she can talk to them in a way that they can understand

because I can't really explain what I want,

but she can just be like, don't look at him,

just like hang out like that.

She speaks model.

She speaks me.

And I'm like that, but she does speak model too.

She's translating between you and the model.

Yeah.

Yes, because I'm like, I'm like, don't,

like, don't look at me.

Like, she's like, you're just the only Maxwell.

100%.

Sorry, I'm not appropriate.

It's not not at all.

Especially not right now.

I'm screaming.

When you're out partying,

do you like getting your photos taken?

Or do you want it just like again,

just remain in flow state?

No one takes my photo.

Get out of here.

They do the BFA people do now,

but I'm the one who just wants to take photos

of other people.

That's kind of sad.

And even all my photo dumps I post,

I'm like, I'm begging my friends to take my photo.

I'm like, can't it?

No, that's why I'm like, I look good.

I'm like, and the other night I was out with my friend,

we were going for walk and I'm like, I look so bad.

What the fuck?

And I'm like, we stop into the pizza store

and I'm like, you're going to take photos of me.

Go there, do this blah, blah, blah.

You got to stop hanging out with models

because they're used to getting their photos taken.

They're not the ones you used to the ones taking the photos.

No, but you know when everyone has the moment

when they're hanging out, when they're in the flow state

and you're like, this is so fun.

I wish like someone would, yeah, remember this.

But like the sometimes everyone has their own personal moment.

We're like, I'm sure you guys do.

We're like, this is so fun.

I want to be like capture, remember this.

So I'm like, why don't you all want to capture my beauty?

Like I look good every day.

You don't selfie?

I do, I mean, I do what I can do.

I'm only so much.

I'm always one person.

Who's taking the photos of you

when you're in frog pose, spread, spread,

legged, whole, a gap.

I assume in the day, no kegels there.

Who's taking that photo?

The people at alo, they are getting paid to promote that place

and that is one of the different moments.

So namaste.

That is Peter rivalry.

We can see your body work there.

So if any of your friends are listening,

take more candidates photos of this man

so he can remember his moments.

He's doing it for you.

It's kind of like a sad clown thing

where it's like who's gonna make the sad clown laugh?

He's the clown.

We need you to be shot.

I know I'm the gesture and it's so annoying.

Just like, what am I supposed to do?

Yeah, but now I'm, we corrected it on the record right now.

Period.

When we're out at your 10 and 10 next party,

we'll take photos of you.

Yeah, easy.

Thank you.

I would love to have you on or not.

Okay, period.

But the thing is, I can't remind you.

No, you have to know that I'm like, when I'm in it.

But do you ever, are you at the station

like if you're like, I don't want to take photos,

I just want to like experience it?

Or do you always, do you feel like the photo needs to exist

to like, I don't know, cement it?

It depends, honestly.

Like I know what certain parties and people

are gonna evoke the certain types of energy

that I want or I look for in images.

So it just depends on where we're going.

Like if I know I'm going to a huge dinner

with a bunch of models, we'll bring that fucking camera out.

Right, okay.

So you do think ahead of time it feels like a reality TV show.

Like I'm screaming.

Yes, yes, exactly.

I know, I know, I pick and choose.

You're a producer.

Like I didn't bring, this is really saddened.

I didn't bring my camera today because I was like,

I know that we're just going to push it out.

We're just going to fucking pop it

after these two pros happening and namaste.

Yeah.

If you could have your portrait,

your portrait on set taken by anyone who you want to shoot it.

I'm really obsessed with this,

I like this artist, Drake Carr,

but he doesn't take images.

He's like, I don't even know what type of art

you would categorize it as, but it's like,

not a painting or a drawing,

but like sort of that sort of art.

Like a art.

Yeah, not that sort of art.

So what about photography?

Yeah.

I don't know.

I feel like I take the best photo.

You need to clone yourself.

If there was two of me, I always say,

y'all are not ready.

You bitch.

I'm finished.

Y'all are not ready.

You played me in two plays that once.

Are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me?

I'll be the end of the space time continuum.

No, like, no.

No, no.

The Williamsburg Bridge.

Like, they need to build another bridge.

No, no, seriously.

Happy birthday.

I'll turn it to my twin and then like me,

I'm at home like you give up.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, true.

Do you ever feel overextended?

What do you mean?

Like, you have to be in too many places.

You have to go to too many events.

You just want to be inside.

No.

Because I'm like, I'm young and like,

this is my chance to do everything.

And I can have these conversations with my agent.

And I'm just like, this is the time.

Like, let's do it now.

Like, let's do the bike every day.

Yeah.

Let's like, do the hog and dogs.

Like, I'll go pink and I'll, like, I will do,

I will be the vessel for anyone else right now.

Because when I'm older and I am sick of being childish

and like doing whimsical things,

I can like pick and choose what I do.

Well, I hope that that happens.

I hope you never lose your whimsy.

But are you clear?

No, but it'll just be personal to me.

Like, I just want monetize it as much.

I'm like, what happened?

Like, are you seeing third?

Because you mentioned 30 few times.

You see 30 is like the start or the end of one chapter

and the start of the next one?

Yes.

What's the next chapter if you've given any thought to that?

It is, it's galleries, it's books.

It's just, again, like more intentional things in the world.

Nothing will be by accident.

Everything will be like thought of tangible.

I want to see more things in the world.

Okay.

You do, you do sometimes post about wanting to quit fashion

and walk away from this life of glamour

and just disappear into a quiet anonymous life.

Maybe in a cottage somewhere screaming.

Is there any truth to that?

Like, do you actually have those feelings at times?

Yeah, I, Michael, I want to be like Narsmith

and like move to Connecticut and like have a husband

and like a big dog in just like chill and be a housewife.

What is that?

After you've done the Hoganazis and the monetize Wimsy?

That's 40.

Yeah, yeah, let's say 40, let's say 40.

I would love it if it was like mint dirty.

Okay.

Like what do you get bored being a fucking

Connecticut housewife?

No, because I don't, I don't try to lose me.

I just think that there comes a time when,

like all my friends and relationships,

everyone's doing their own thing.

I just think it'll be time for me to pick and choose

when I am being seen when I give my energy to people

or energy to think.

Intentionality like you mentioned.

Yeah.

Yes, yes, yes.

Well, a hashtag and important.

An important hashtag intentionality, hashtag mature.

And that's all you really need.

Hashtag real eater screaming.

Is that all you're feeling today?

I'm, dude, I am the real cedar in the game period.

Yeah, I'll put that on record every day.

I didn't know you knew ball, but period.

Go on.

I'll start with balls, but isn't it right now?

Yeah.

It was this past weekend.

An important step in your husband journey.

Gotta ask, what are, as a photographer,

what are some pro tips on taking an elite dick pick?

An elite dick pick.

Yeah.

How do you maximize girth, girth, length?

I appreciate, I appreciate mystery.

So I actually don't like dick picks.

I'd like like the sweatpants and the briefs and like the,

I love like honestly, like swim trunks and things like that.

Leaving something to the imagination.

Yeah, like I'd rather not see everything.

Cause then I'm like, well, then, no, there's no,

it's fine.

It's no fun.

Yeah.

So we're talking about taking the photo.

Me?

Yeah.

Oh, I don't take those.

Okay.

No.

No.

I thought it was about like, like, like, like turning the camera

upside down.

I do not take them.

And then cropping in.

I feel like I can't take news.

I feel like that was like, really?

I was in high school.

See your last IG pic?

Yeah.

That's all, that's imagination.

Like, that's like, boom.

Okay.

The farthest I'll go is like torso and then some shorts

or maybe like, you know, doing the splits and some short shorts

in the dance studio.

That's just showing you guys my range.

Right, right, right.

And showing you guys what I'm capable of to imagine

future husband.

Dispening on it.

You know, yeah.

The bouncing on the set.

The tricks.

Like, you know, I have to let you know

that I am capable of the floor routine.

I'm multiple.

Yeah.

Hey, it gets sweaty.

Yeah.

10.0 from the judges.

What does perform?

I hope so.

We, okay, we know for a fact that on TikTok,

the best performing content is your bike videos, right?

And we joked about it and you've joked about it.

But it is true.

You're like, yo, what's up?

I'm with celebrity XYZ and people like, shut up.

I'm, shut up.

Give me the bike.

Ride the bike.

Ride the fucking get back on the bike.

Tyrell.

They really doesn't.

No hands.

I can do it with my hands.

What about an Instagram?

Is it the party photos?

Is it the showcasing your work, candidates of your celebrity friends or your scintillating

thirst traps?

What performs best for you?

The celebrities.

Yeah.

Really?

Is IG that?

I mean, I'm going to ask, is it that shallow?

Obviously.

It's the news now.

Okay.

So I feel like that's just what people want to see.

They want to see what happened the night before or what's happening with so and so or

whatever the case may be.

Like that's why I know my audience on all the platforms.

I'm just trying to make them want me more on Instagram so I can get that husband.

So that's why I just, I have so many things that I like, I haven't posted the Jennie photos.

I know those would do really well.

But I'm like, you guys can go to her page for that.

Like what can I do to bring you guys that you can't get anywhere else at the beginning?

Is Instagram work?

And TikTok's fun.

Like how do you?

What's Twitter?

It's screaming.

I actually, I have Twitter, but now it's private because I tell her, you won't be private

for much about me.

No, that's not my, that's not my Twitter.

It's not?

Oh, that's not my Twitter.

That's they won't give me that name.

I think it's something like eight year old person who had that name since 2014, I blocked

because I've like, I refused to acknowledge that you exist.

I tie well too, but Twitter, I know that no, but Twitter, I just yap random things and

steal quotes from Tumblr and then class Instagram is celebrity news and then a hint of like

me dancing.

That's like, but that's my work.

That's my work.

You're like, that's your portfolio.

Yes.

Yes.

And then TikTok, I'm like, I just, this is me and my friends just have this real me.

Yes.

It's interesting, though, that you have like seven X followers on TikTok of people that

are where it's you being you versus like you portraying this like curated polished portfolio

of your work and your celebrity famous friends like, I mean, it makes sense.

I just realized early on that, obviously, I'm very different than a lot of my other counterparts

in the industries.

Yeah.

On both sides, whether it be front facing or behind the scenes.

So behind the scenes, obviously, there's so many other photographers who just had a

different upbringing than me or are in the museums and had like, they just went a different

route.

And I'm just trying to like, sometimes it's hard to sell that what I do or like the TikTok

part or me front facing.

So I try to leave it to the TikTok.

And so that when people are on Instagram, it's more so like the seriousness and like, you

as I am an adult, I take my life, my work seriously.

So I'm just trying to balance it on trying to understand how to market that.

It's a very interesting thing to do in this day and age because I feel like if you didn't

like make a book when you were like 18, then you're not going to be seen as like a fine

art photographer or you're not going to be seen as like the serious person who orchestrates

images and like things really deeply about things because I'm like, I just like one

half fun and I just take, hopefully, really good photos of like people when I'm with

them, but I don't know how to explain that or like talk deeply about that.

It is just is what it is.

So is the compartmentalization that's happening do you ever feel like people might underestimate

you because they might just think of you or see you as a party photographer?

It's 100% 100% 100%.

And that's why I want a social chapter.

because I just feel like, again,

this rolodex of images that I have in my head

thanks to like being on the internet for my whole life,

I feel like I am more than like the party photos

because that was just like when I was in college

and like having fun and things like that.

Like I just want to just, I don't know how to,

because I want to still do it,

it's just hard to like do that.

And then you take it seriously and do like campaign

and things like that.

But you are, I mean, you are doing the campaigns

and the covers, yeah.

But as you move,

are you trying to move into like the gallery and the museum

and the serious art world

for like a better fucking phrase?

Like, yeah, have you, is this all in your head perception

or have you actually run into rolodeblocks

because people just, you know,

they see your silly goose personality online

and like, oh, well, it's not at all to us.

That, and also they just don't know who I am.

The fine art world doesn't know who I am.

So I feel like the books,

like I went to like some publishing companies

and was like, can I make this book?

And then they're like, this just isn't the book

that we're making right now because that's,

but I just want to be seen by some of those big corporations.

And in order for me to be seen by those big corporations,

I have to make a different type of work.

So thus, I'm like, really this year working on

this show and in September and things like that.

So can you tell us anything about the show?

It's just completely different than the party

of it's like the complete opposite.

It's not at night time.

They're more like composed photography.

It's not women.

So it's just very different.

Is it like composed photography?

Is it like it travels and falls?

Like it's, I would say, yeah, I would say thoughtful.

Like I'm going into every shoot that I'm doing

and being like, how can I,

how am I seeing this in the world?

How can I explain this?

Cause I feel like I'm gonna have to.

And also like, can I see this in someone's house?

Cause at the end of the day, I do want to have,

yeah, I want to put them in, I want to have work

in someone's house.

I want them to live past me and immortalize.

Oh, you want collectors?

Yes.

Yes.

Should be grown.

I feel like you're putting a lot of pressure on yourself

to like, be grown.

Mm-hmm.

Like, where does that come from?

It might be my mom.

She's a Capricorn.

So I feel like, what's your guys' friends, by the way?

Cancer, Aries, period.

Okay, it's late.

I'm on a good group.

And you?

I'm a Libra.

Of course.

You know what that means?

You know what these mean?

Like, no.

Air sign.

Yes.

Oh, shit, okay.

But my mom's a Capricorn.

So she's very much a workaholic.

So she just put a lot of, not pressure,

but maybe think of like five steps ahead.

Okay.

So I'm like, that's why I'm always anxious about like,

what the next step is and trying to think what,

how I can do to like, what is it?

Give myself a long jeopardy.

Sure.

With anything that I do.

Do you think you're successful right now?

Does your mom think you're successful right now?

My mom does think I'm successful.

Cause I know it's, it's clearly important

to your mom, Chanel.

But she called me like two days ago

and she's like, do you have work this week?

And I'm like, I don't know how to be like, no.

That's, that's, that's mom.

That's mom.

But I'm like, like, what do you want from me?

Like grandchildren, you know, but I'm like,

I'm trying, girl, like I'm trying.

Like it's just not that easy.

But I think that's why I'm, I just want,

and I also want to bring her into my world a bit,

her and my brother.

And the only times they've ever been a slightly intrigued

is when I am doing celebrity work.

Oh, really?

So I'm just trying to bring them into like,

something that they can feel,

have access to regardless of the celebrities.

Like, I will be like, someone to like,

to my, my brother, what is it?

Who did I shoot?

I shot like some rapper and then his friends

found out about it and then he was like, oh, I heard.

Oh, okay, be right here.

Like this is fun.

And then my mom, I must feel good, right?

Yeah, it was, it was cool, but I was like,

I don't know if this is what I want him to like,

think of me.

Oh, I see.

And then my mom, when I shot maybe like Billy Eilish,

she was like, I know who Billy Eilish is.

So it's just hard trying to like, make them understand,

like what it all means to me.

I mean, welcome to the fucking our life.

Like I'm saying, hardcasters.

Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving, hardcasters.

We can be like, Mom, I'll FaceTime you would do a leopie.

Do a leopie.

Do a leopie.

Come to our show on September.

But like, you're like, I'm a professional rapper

and like, I, in a way, this is like therapy,

but it's like hard to like, go to talk about it

unless you're like about to like go deep into it

and be like, what does this all mean?

I'm like, we're motivational speakers.

Don't worry about it.

You know what I mean?

But like, how can you just, but let that be

without you having to explain it?

But this is mom.

This is Mrs.

Hampton, mucher, just being mom.

Yeah, mom vibes.

Yeah, but it's just a lot.

I feel like maybe because it's growing up

with the dance background, it was a lot of pressure

of like, making sure she was dance mom.

Was she a dance mom?

I wouldn't say she was the quintessential dance mom,

but she was definitely someone who was just like,

are you stretching?

Is your homework done like, you know, any spare time

you have?

Are you a heterosexual dancer?

You're not, no, no.

Okay.

I got that out of the way.

We were like any spare time I had,

I had to make sure that it was being used wisely.

Accounted for fucking black swan shit.

Yes.

Yes.

And I'm turning into the other one of home.

Cause it's just like, so much pressure.

Yeah.

I'm looking at the mirror, like scrubbing my name off

every time I'm back.

Full mental breakdown.

Literally.

Have you, okay, besides your internal internal development

and evolution and relationship with your mother,

what have been the hardest parts about transition

from like party downtown fashion space

into like the art gallery space?

I'm still doing it, but it's just having serious conversations

and following up, which I feel like is about emailing,

being an adult, like just being professional.

Yeah.

And just being like, I'm so interested, like, let's talk.

Or like, you know, I didn't realize that the half of the,

the to make out all that happened is me falling up

and circling back.

Yeah.

I'm like, it sucks.

I wake up in the morning and like, you know,

they're like, they hit you back at five times.

Like, I thought that's what it was.

No one double text in like a double email.

No, no, no.

I'm like, just be our girl.

It's just Google being like, do you want to respond?

Yeah.

Did you respond?

AI becomes your mom where it's like, follow up.

You better let them back.

And then it's like what it says the little, um,

fucking like the, the, the look, uh,

not the conclusion, like the sparks notes of the things.

I'm like, oh, yeah, summarizing.

And I'm like, what the, like, there's no person, like,

what am I supposed to say back?

You need a, do you have, you have an agent?

I do.

Do you have a, do you have a manager?

She's the, he's the all in one.

Okay.

Wow.

They're not doing this work for you.

They're like getting you deals, but they're not like,

well, no, no, you take care of everything.

But I also feel like, and I tell them all the, all the time,

I'm like, what can I do to help you?

So that, I feel like I'm not sitting on my ass.

And I'm just like, like, what can I do to like, give us,

get this money when my mom calls and asks me if I'm working

this week, I want to say, yes, what can I do to work?

Have you made yourself a dentist's appointment

in the last five years?

Yes.

Okay, good.

I'm on my beautiful, beautiful trompers.

Thank you.

I had braces and I met my dentist at Lucian,

which is brilliant.

That's, he looked at my teeth and he was like,

I can fix that for you.

Oh, yeah.

I had like, I could fix her, he fixed me.

How long did you have braces as an adult?

All of COVID.

So, oh, perfect.

And an extra year.

COVID's the best thing I've ever had here.

It was.

But I kept calling because I'm so anal and I'm emailing,

like, so I'm like, is this still going to work?

Like, do I need to come in and get them re-tightened

and he's like, you're fine.

So dentistry, you're following up.

Hell yeah.

That's in the teeth.

Yeah.

I'm like, I'm all for it.

Triple texting.

No, I'm like, I'm I still good to go.

Yeah.

What should I be doing?

I'm, I'm chat GBTing like, what vitamin should I,

I'm like cosmetic moons.

What about, let's talk, let's get into the,

the lore of this mustache.

Screaming.

I got it.

Maybe when I was like 11.

You got it.

What?

Damn.

That this thicker was not this thick,

but it started growing around like 11.

Okay.

And it was this thick, I would say 11.

Maybe my junior year, junior high school.

And you've had it since then for like 10, 15 years.

I mean, I like, I just cut it off.

Maybe like two months ago.

How did that feel?

Ooh, make it.

It was weird.

Yeah, it was weird.

What was the response from the homies?

They loved it.

Oh, really?

They loved it.

Fresh face.

Oh, you're so cute.

And I'm like, that's what I don't want.

I want to be like grown in sex.

Oh, and you're like, I wasn't cute before by the way.

Like what?

Right, but I'm trying to get fine shit.

That's my goal.

That's my goal.

Well, are you still speaking of fine shit?

Are you still to skater boys?

Or are you sick of sleeping on mattresses

on the ground with no back frills?

I've never had a skater boy.

Really?

Just coveted them from afar?

No, I don't even think, I don't know.

They're always like, all my friends are like,

there's one gay one.

And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?

So I never had one.

Some of them are by.

Yeah.

And they say that.

But then I'm like, we go out and because I feel like I am not shy,

but around men that I like, I don't do much.

So I'm like, I, and I'm also not very flamboyant, I would say,

when I'm around them.

You're like a pillow princess in the club.

You know, so I'm just trying to, I'm very side.

I don't know if you guys know what that means.

Very side?

Yeah, it's a new gay term.

It's like, you don't like do anything else.

You just like cuddle and like, oh, okay.

I think it's very cute.

You're not fucking.

No, okay.

So I, in the club, I'm not, I fucking, I'm not doing it.

I'm very like, you're siding in the club.

I'm chatting to my girls being like, he's so cute.

Like, what should I do?

Flutter and cuddle eyes.

I walk by and then I just let it go.

And you don't frog pose in front of them?

No, I'll, hey, if there was space, if there was space,

you could just drop to a split.

I want, I do want a skater boy.

Yeah.

I want a boy.

I want like a dude, like a, like a FedEx worker.

A fellow.

I think I want just like, shout out to again,

Jay Massacre, like daddy.

I just, yeah, like just someone who's just like,

I feel like I don't, obviously don't know him

and I want to protect anything onto him.

But from what I, he looks like, I just feel like

he can take the reins.

Oh, he's out here posting shirtless pics as well.

I mean, I want someone to just take the reins.

Like, okay.

I don't want to do any like Santa Claus.

When I am miss Claus, I want to be a doll.

When I'm miss Claus is doing too much.

Should we arrange here?

I'm just, no, I just want to, I want to be an elf.

No, not even too much pressure.

Only Dixon.

Ollie pocket over here.

Blitzons doing the splits in.

Maybe the snow globe.

Okay.

I don't want to do anything.

I don't want to do anything.

Okay.

You want to stop it.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

Like, I don't want to do anything.

I just want to like be picked up in a cute car

and sit pretty and talk.

Like, I feel like, I just want to do that.

I don't want to be like a, do you want to be like,

do you want to be a kept man?

I want a friend.

I can't do it.

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OK, what about what are like the most attractive types of guy?

Because we talked about skater boys.

We talked about like, I don't know, older bears.

Namaste.

What are we, what are we looking at these days?

Honestly, it's more attributes.

Like I just need like someone who's upfront.

And like it's just like, I want like, just me like,

hey, or like screaming nice.

You don't get that in New York.

I do, but from the wrong people, they still have to be like

physically attractive.

I don't want to go just like high.

You don't want to sub five.

No, I want like a dude in like, like, I had this screaming.

I had one of my favorite munches I had.

He was my ex also, but one of the other ones I had was he had tattoos

and he was huge.

And he was just like such a man.

And he just was like, let's go to the movies.

And like, I think that's attractive to me.

You're like, OK, I can't do, I don't want to date someone

who wears speedo.

I can't do like any more flamboyant than me.

Like, I just want my man to be what playing with the other

straight men and the other one watching sports or whatever.

And that's me with my girls.

Right.

Just yapping, like, that's, that's what I want.

You want to be a housewife, like you said?

That's what I'm going to do.

I'm told what to do.

Yes, yes.

We're going to the movies.

Yeah.

We're watching the Super Bowl.

Yes.

Yeah.

We're going to Selene.

We're going to fucking Selene and it's on your dime.

Oh, he needs to be rich or he wouldn't say he needs to have a job and

point because it's hard to find on a fine.

OK.

Right.

Well, if you look at the skater boys maybe, but yeah, but even they

got some money.

So hey, do you prefer to date within the fashion world or is that

too?

Would you rather like a normie?

That's, you know, it has all these attributes, but it's like a normie

in his, you know, it has like a nine to five email job or something

or it's like a FedEx.

It actually wanted the month.

I do love FedEx.

I just like that one.

It'll form.

It really just depends if they can do for you.

Teach me something else.

What can brown do for you?

UPS.

UPS.

Yeah.

But still honestly delivering my package.

And vice versa.

Yeah.

But airmail that shit.

What is it?

Just like, it's more just like conversation.

Like I forget the question, but I think dating, dating inside or outside the

fashion world.

So yeah, I can't, I don't know.

I need someone to teach me something completely different.

Okay.

But that's why I'm like FedEx.

I'm like, let's go construction.

Let's go like trade.

Let's go sports.

Like I don't, I know enough about my industry that I don't need someone.

We don't need to be terrific.

Right.

That's work.

But if you ever dated outside or bit or munched outside the fashion world, where

they're like, why are you always going out or like, why are you going like, like, they

don't get your world?

No.

Because if they're fun, which should be the root of the man that I see, yes, they'll

just want to hang out.

Like I used to not drink and go out so I could like hang out and yeah, for hours.

And like just have a good time.

I don't need to like really like party or like, yeah, like you can still, it's more just

hanging out.

Like if you can hang quality time, like you said, you're my favorite boom, all right.

No fashion.

No fashion guys need to apply here, but you still got to have some style.

Oh.

Yeah.

Is it a bad style?

Is that immediate?

No.

Yes.

You can't salvage them.

You can't be like, let me dress you.

No, because I don't want to change anyone.

I'd rather them just be who they are and like that be something they're interested in.

Like if they're like, if they have like a cute outfit on, it's just like, and they

know that what they like, I'm like more into that than us being like, let's go shopping

and find you like a cute, like immune sweater.

Right.

I'm not trying to like be yourself.

Yeah.

I respect your personal style because his money is my money and my money is my money.

So like, I'm going to the store.

It's the one way street.

Yeah.

Then spend it on me.

Yeah.

When it does finally warm up and we're past, you know, we put the puffers back in storage.

Screaming.

What are you hoping to see?

The fell is wearing this spring summer, whether they're your munch munchies or not.

Sweep hands.

Okay.

In the summer.

Great.

Sweep basketball shorts.

Yeah.

You just want to see what religion they are.

100%.

Yeah.

I like a like baggy t-shirt like under the muscle or over the muscles.

Like I don't want to see a tank top.

I don't want to see the thought outfit, which used to be like the open flannel and the

tank top and the like car heart pants.

I'm interested in like just just chill.

Just like comfy.

Do less.

Yeah.

Like I love Sex and City.

What's his name?

Miranda's boyfriend.

No.

Steve.

Steve didn't give a fuck.

No one's Steve.

Like a Brooklyn guy.

He look cool.

Just like hang out.

Like who cares?

Like you're going to look good regardless.

Like where the corner is if you want to like who cares like what the munchies to be comfy.

Yes.

I and I used to be obsessed with this man who wore crocs.

I have a pair of crocs also, but I'm like that was just so hot to me.

Like crocs in the street.

Like go off.

Like you're just a dude.

You don't care.

Right.

Like because I'm overthinking everything.

So I'm like maybe if he doesn't care, then it'll rub off on me.

The interior.

Yeah.

Exactly.

And then my crock, shitty sweatpants and like I really just want to.

Do you feel like you don't have friends you're surrounded by besties all the fucking time?

Male friends.

I do.

I do.

I do have male friends.

Okay.

Good.

Just ones that I want one that I can sleep with.

I can cuddle with.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A friend with benefits.

Yes.

Side benefits.

Yes.

But the benefit being a room at some point.

A side piece.

You want a side piece.

And literally a side piece.

Not the entree.

That a moose boosh.

What is that?

A little starter.

Here it is.

What's a broccoli knee on the side?

Maybe I'm the broccoli knee.

Oh.

And they're the entree.

Like I want to be the rock to their star.

Like I want them to shine.

And I just played the back.

Okay.

Really?

Yeah.

But you're the star.

And I know that.

Yeah.

Right.

We're just why you can say this.

Exactly.

I know what I know what I can bring to the table.

So I just need to know that they can bring that to the table.

Well, you are flush with friends.

Of all your baddie besties that you've worked with, who's the biggest dealer on set?

The biggest deal.

But probably Jordan.

Yeah.

Because she can just walk over me because she just were friends.

She's like, I know what I want.

And sometimes I'm like, but she's like, you don't get it.

Like she speaks makeup.

She speaks glam.

She speaks all the things.

So I feel like that's a friend and like someone who I work with a lot that she's just

like, you just don't get it.

So we're just going to make it work and make it happen.

Use the DOM or the sub.

And you like that.

Yes.

Is that from a, because you guys are like a dynamic duo or is that just who she is?

I think, no, I think it's because of our, our duo.

Okay.

You're the only photographer.

She treats like shit is what you're saying.

Yes.

But I can take it because I know that we're going to have the best end product.

And once you overstepped the diva threshold, are you like, bitch, getting one?

Yeah.

We go, we go back and forth and then everyone else is kind of scared of us because they

think that we're serious because I'm like, bitch, what do I say?

And she's just like, no, I'm going to do with the fuck I want because you don't get

it.

And I'm going to let me do my job.

Like we get into that.

Fireworks on.

Let me do.

Let me do my job.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But in order for me to do my job, she has to get her her job.

So like, it's all love.

But it does.

We're brother and sister.

Have you guys ever fought?

No, seriously.

Play fighting only.

Like you're like, you're like, you're mowing on set and then almost every

effort is all just friends like, I don't consider the fights fights because it's just like

petty.

Like if it's a fight, it's kind of like, maybe like in the studio, it's maybe about

like hair and makeup and I'm not understanding.

And she has to like over explain, which is kind of annoying to someone who has to over

explain.

And then outside of the studio, it might just be like, I am not understanding what she's

saying once again.

Like, she's like, you just don't get it.

And I'm like, because I forget that I'm a boy.

And being around a lot of girls, you forget that like girls have different brains.

Like they, they see the world completely different.

I'm like, I'm like, I'm just so chill sometimes literally your chill and she's operating at

higher frequency.

Yeah.

And so I'm like, I don't really understand what you're saying is she's just like, and

you don't.

And you never will.

And I'm like, okay.

And sometimes I've got to be like, that's just the way it's a communication thing.

That's that.

Yes.

Let me go.

Yeah.

And then it's all fun and games.

We're intimidated on set during photo shoot during the GQ, man of the year, all those

shoots with all those celebrities in a confined hotel in the Chateau was very overwhelming.

Who was that?

That was Walton Goggins, right?

Walton Goggins.

Very naked.

Very naked.

Was he Walton hoggins?

I didn't get a good look.

Oh, so you could just Google this and see where's the speedo?

Like for the he wore a speedo of like all of 2025.

No, I'm just kidding.

I think the cigarette was a hog.

You weren't able to peep.

You weren't able to peep me.

No.

I don't think I.