The Tyrell Hampton Interview with Throwing Fits

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2:01I'm good, happy, happy president day. That was insane. I love obsessed. Do you like here? I did not buy care. I took a nice fat SUV. Oh, we should let us know when we will reimburse you for the Uber, not even kidding. No, I enjoy it. So actually, my favorite thing to do is get in and feel like a skinny girl inside their big SUV in the driver just doesn't talk to me. Uber black. Yes, SUV. Oh, right, even. Of course. Uber XL. Of course. An XL girlie. I have to. I need room for my Chanel's. Yeah. And I need room for my camera equipment. Are you connecting the Bluetooth or are you just going sunglasses on, AirPods in? If they're nice. And you can always judge if they're nice by how they greet you when you get in the car. So if they greet me and they're like, hi, how are you? Then I'm like, oh my gosh. Can I connect? Let's get started. And I can tell by their vibe, what type of music we're going to listen to. You're DJing for the crowd? Yeah. Wait, whoa. I'm a people pleaser. So what was the situation on the way over here? I played nothing.

3:02I was on TikTok. Okay. And watching you guys as much as I mentioned with Hugo. What's your Uber rating? 4.7. Oh, it's great. 4.76 I think. It's like a minus. Just a FI. Get below 4.2 as I did one time. You just, you just doing your testless, make a new account. You're good. You only get testless after that. Honestly. I'm scared. Maybe that's going to get car sick after that. They need to make a no-testal option. But it's like, if you get a black car, just don't consider a Tesla in no shade to all shade test that as a corporation, yolo, teach his own, but like it just doesn't count as a black car. No. It's not luxurious to me. It's a camera. It's not sexy to me. Yeah. Give me a Lexus on a bin. Yeah. Because there's colors on the outfit and it's like pink and I'm like, I saw the reddest car I've ever seen my entire life. Right. This is not Nicki Minaj now being an Uber driver. No. And I'm like, even her, I maybe would get in. No shade. Yeah. Just to like have like a taxi cab. Confessions moment. Wait, how do you get a 4.2 real quick? What did he do? I used to just want to get out of the car while on a bridge.

4:03Are you serious? You should love me out here. You should love me out here. Talk me on a therapist about that. I'm good. Do you have anxiety? What? Do you have anxiety? I was like, I fucking love New York. I just want to walk home now. Oh, you're just like eager to get out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He loves life. He has too much raw to veeve to be a five-part know-how. Are you one of those people who like, like, before you start peeing, keep fleshed the toilet? No. There's people in the world who like, to race it? Yeah. Like, they're like just always in a rush. Live in dangerously. No, no. It's more like, I want to like, saver the, you know, the life in this life in the big apple. No, because I'm like already paid for it. That's my mind. I'm like, I already paid for it. So I'm like, there's no point in me stopping this car because I, my money's gone. So I'm like, I'm minus well right into the last second. Everyone. Look, you know what I mean? Yeah. I'm like, mine as well. Okay. Yolo. I love that. That's, that's a great philosophy. I'm very optimistic. You mentioned, you mentioned the Shanei. Let's do a quick fit check. What's everything that you wore today to the podcast?

5:03Sorry. Yeah, let's start with the piece they were just all. My Chanel bag, I have my Supreme hat, shout out to all the boys that work at the store who give me things for free. And Malena, how big is your bag collection? It's huge. Yeah. It's actually like, like, if you doze, maybe more. Really? For in terms of Chanel, I have three Chanel's, but the rest, I, it's really expansive. And I'm trying to find a way to like, not go full gay and have like a woman's, like sure. Closet with my bags everywhere, but I'm trying to like, make them not so just thrown everywhere. What's your most used bag right now? It's my other Chanel bag, okay. It's a hobo bag, which was my favorite bag and it's the first one that I wanted. And then I got that. And I just use it every day, but I was like, I'm not doing anything in it. But my big thing with bags is I, when I first moved to New York, I went to the military story around the corner, like, on, um, Houston.

6:05And I got this little bag and it just fit my camera. So I just was like, I just need a bag to fit my camera in the tools. Yeah. Because I got money. I was like, okay, now we can like, invest in like sexy moments. So now it's like, we throw the camera in the Gucci bag. We could throw the camera in the levy. We kept the same shitty camera, but we kept the same shitty camera. But now it's back for every day of the week. Yes. But now I need the new bags to fit like two for three. So I have like multiple cameras in the bag. Your whole rig. Yeah. But this one has literally nothing. What's your dream bag talking burpees? No, actually hate. Birkin. Are we in a bitch? Are we in a burky backlash? I think there's so like housewife like, I think it's like, it's just not what people make it with Jane would have wanted. Oh, it's been bastardized. Like you know what I mean? Like, it's not a precious, Jane wanted Kanye handing out a dozen at Lucy on. Like, yes. Okay. Cause happy like his tremendous. Yeah. Wow. You almost told us that. Yes. I just don't think it was intended to be like this pristine. Not beat up. Yeah. Yeah.

7:05So I hate it. My dream bags are probably be I think I got it honestly because I was I was saying I want to shop today and there's nothing that I really want. So. Well, Celine, you mentioned. I do want the new product back. I mean, the new the new Chanel bag. There's a new Chanel. It's like amazing rich red Travis Scott, not Travis Scott. It's that rocky word to the Chanel. So it's probably like the bag that I want. It looks so rich and juicy and I just want that juicy bags. Well, if the pod goes well enough, you should treat yourself as I mean, hey, are our bags your biggest like splash out thing that in terms of clothing and accessories? Yeah. Honestly, like I again, with the outfit I'm wearing. Yeah. Sort of go to the loom from Amazon and screaming, row jeans. Oh, and that's a torch and then uggs. What are the uggs? It's like, uh, yeah, the new Ugg, the new Ugg slipper. Shout out to our friends at what are these socks? These socks are uniclo. Oh, I only buy socks of uniclo in the coat. Yeah. My coat is Calvin Klein, new Calvin or vintage Calvin?

8:05They sent it to me. So I honestly have a new presumably, presumably, no, not my stamp. Yeah. Yeah. The panties are their calvans, their Calvin and palace. Have you shot nice? Nice. Have you shot anything for Calvin? Yes. I have. Actually, I've shot something recently with Jenny. Oh, yeah. In the past, I've shot in things where I didn't have any budget, but I have yet to be on the billboard yet. Oh. And I've been in a campaign as well with one of my good friends, Dominic Bike, and we look like we're in a relationship. Wow. In front of it behind the lens. Yeah. What can he do? In front of the lens. In front of the lens. Yeah. Shot by Alex there, McClennan, who is one of my favorite photographers. Yes. Did you guys stuff? Stuff the panties. Oh, yeah. No, I wanted to do. I worked out. I starved myself for a week to do that. Because I thought I was going to get the underwear, but I didn't. That was for Dominic. Take a puffer jacket. No, they were like, they gave it to, um, what is it, my friend, John Carlos, they gave it to him and his body and his hair. It was him. It was, it was all about him.

9:06Right. So I want to start myself. AKA, didn't drink for a month before a shoot that we had and then ended up wearing to like slim down in the face and ended up just, uh, wearing like a full zip hoodie situation. So you can even see my face. It's so fucked up how they do that. Like you're like preparing and doing a lot of things and they're just like, let's just put you in a hoodie. Yeah. What if a sleeping bag would look great. Like ski suit. Yeah. Just did all this work. So that's why I'm in my single air. I know an Instagram. I'm doing it. Taking every chance I have like today. I was like, whatever happens after this, like, I'm going to go outside and I need to like still try to find a husband because that's my goal. Listen, the photos that you're posting on IG recently, those are the types of photos that people put on Twitter and like, rock, put them in a string bikini. Yeah. Like this is like, we're going to, we're going to get into thirst traps, big picks and all that. What's the, the jewelry, the hardware? Is it earrings only? It's earrings only. They are from studs and I have 20 pairs of them actually. What? One of my friends actually break all the time. They're like, I wouldn't say they're cheap, no shade, just studs, but they just break so easily. They come out of my ears. Okay.

10:06Every other hour. So you always have a pair on deck breaking case of emergency. I thought you'd be losing your earrings. That's just like, that's the quality of studs. But yeah. But again, no shade of studs. I'm going to make this specific earring because I can't find anywhere else. Oh. Like custom. Like icy. Yes. Got it. It's time. Yeah. All right. And you're sipping on some water. All right. Duration is key. Folks. All right. Tyrone. Most important question first. What is your secret to ripping over the Williamsburg Bridge on a city bike with no hands? Pilates. And maybe not cardiac arrest. What's the word? Cardinal. Not goalieosis either. But it would be my posture. I say, I would say it's my posture. Good. Good posture. Yeah. Squeezier. Squeeze your core. No. Yeah. And your kegels. I actually don't do kegels. You're not gripping that sea. Yeah. It's fighting for dear life. It really is the abs. Really? It really is the abs. But how do you like see your thing, right? You are filming with one hand, which is visible. Yeah. And then with the other hand, you're just belting away like a diva singing an aria in

11:09limiz. So it really are going no hands. And you're like swirving too. Yes. Which is why I now bike at certain times of the day. So it's empty because there's always almost been accidents where I'm cold. I'm just a little lighting because I'm just like really nilly on the bridge. You need to blink canvas for your content that is operating at an extremely high level. There's like run clubs. There's like acidic families of like, well, literally, then it's like right now, like maybe like 3 p.m. 2 p.m. All of a sudden, there's like a bunch of kids getting out of school. And then they sometimes I love you guys yell my name and then I get really scared. Wow. I love you. And I'm like, well, I'm focused right now, you guys. Right. I'm filming content. And then one time I ran into a friend and I was wearing a cowboy hat and this whole length denim get up. And I was like, you just just need to go. You're putting my guy at work right now. You need to lead my office. Like that's my office. Right. My place. Yeah. The city bike is the bridge is your office. It really is. There are a lot of run-ins on the bike path. And I always instinctively go to that and you're like, that's so stupid on the bike.

12:09Like, yeah, like as you're crossing your friends, you're like, no, this is so dumb. Let's not do this. No, I would be so scared. When you do post like seven TikToks in a row of you bombing down the bridge, are you doing laps and like going down and like like back up and then going down and then going back? Are you? Yeah. Preparative. Yes. I get a lot of energy and I'm seeing my songs and it's like a little therapy for me. So I'm nice. Do you have a city bike playlist that we could maybe share? I don't. I do have a Spotify. It's public. But I've come to realize that people have made Spotify playlists of the songs that. Oh, wow. Wow. That's flattering. On TikTok. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm like, this is, this is really amazing. Have you ever had a moment when you're in the office doing your job that you had even a one degree of being self conscious of like someone watching you do your thing or you're like, nothing else is happening outside of my purpose. Nothing else happening.

13:09Okay. I only get scared when there's maybe again, if there's maybe too many people, which too many people to me is maybe like three plus me. So then I'm like, I just need to be conscious of like how, how we're biking and be, um, safety first. Yes. Of course. Good Samaritan over here. I'm not wearing a helmet. I'm carrying flowers. I'm carrying suitcases. A lot of props. It's a thing. So make sure that sometimes there's ice cream. There's tacos. Yeah. So I'm just making sure that like everyone is like accounted for. Like props guy. Yes. The lighting is great. Yeah. Thank you. Uh, what do you think of, what do you think of mom Donnie fixing the, the Williamsburg bridge bump on the Manhattan side? It still causes traffic, so, but yeah, I still appreciate him, but didn't really do anything for me because I've never, that's not my, that's like the doorway to my job. Yeah. Yeah. That's the front door to your office. Yeah. Like that's like the hump. Right. Where I'm like, okay.

14:10Now it's time to clock in. Yeah. You need that boot up to like, yeah, lock in. That's my shot. In, um, inception when you fucking fall back. Yeah. Yes. I just watched. Um, what is it with Bradley Cooper? Limitless. Just watch limitless for the first time. That's your pill. Yes. That's the pill. Fucking amazing. So the Adderall, which I'm like, okay, tea like I didn't know that this is what the vibes are. I'm like, I'm like, do I sign up? Do I not? Like, sure. The water's warm. Come on in. I mean, hey, if it makes your eyes that blue, then I'm like, I'm dokey down. Think about how well, how many more, uh, how better you could be a biking if you were just on Adderall. True. I mean, I take Lemmy's. I don't know if you guys know what that is. It's courting Kardashians like gummies. Okay. Oh, I sometimes take your melatonin pills. Yes. But they have, um, like Lemmy tone, Lemmy de blow, Lemmy fiber, like all these things. And it's, I don't know if it's a placebo or if it's working or if it's not working, but it genuinely gives me an energy boost. Oh, okay. I'm going to look into that. There's a Lemmy. There's a Lemmy play for like Clark Kardashian. Lemmy sponsor the pod. Namaste. Yep. Got it.

15:10I like the courting honey pack. The Kardashian honey pack. Persis slaves. Me and my friends always try to make up a new like pill. Like, what is it, um, fuck, we just did like Lemmy, Lemmy shut the fuck up and it may be like, uh, some sort of like, um, it's just a giant pill that's a ball gag. Yeah. Or like, maybe like, it's like, oh, it's like a microdose of wheat or something like that. And you're just like, let me shut the fuck up. And you're like, just silent. Yeah, I'm having an exciting attack on the inside, but I'm not ruining everyone else's time. 100%. You got the function and you're like, let me just take this really quick. I think of living in mom, Donnie, Stan, uh, Ramadan, Mubarak. Yeah. Yeah. You grew up Muslim. Yes. I did. Is there anything in the fashion slash downtown party scene that you still consider Haram that you won't touch, um, honestly, everything, I tell you know, it's fun and good. Yeah. Honestly, everything. I feel like, yeah, I'm pretty, I'm, when I grew up, I wasn't supposed to be doing anything I couldn't listen to music.

16:11I was allowed to have posts on my wall. We listened to like prayer every morning in the, in the car, like it was very like black and white in the house. Like no color. We like to be gay. No. No. Number one on the list. But I never came out. So shout out to my mom for that. Are you still in the closet? No, like I never had to. Okay. Outdoor. Oh my god. Oh my god. Let me shut the fuck up. I'm like, Mom. Cut. Got the camera. I need one of those. Let me shut the fuck up. I'm, Courtney. It's time. Courtney. Hashtag. Let me throw in fits. Yeah. Yeah. Let me try to keep everyone in the closet. Yeah. Hey. Tis the season. 2026. When did you, when did you like find? I find out that I was gay. No. When did you, when were you able to spread your gay, when were you able to spread your gay wings and like put posters on your wall? Um. Of hot boys. Literally hot boys. It was that kind of front and front blue. It was maybe in around like middle school. We would go, when we'd go to Walmart. Shout out Walmart. Shout out Walmart. Saving closet boys. Hey. One of the top.

17:12One time. At a time. Yeah. My mom's been one aisle and I'm just looking at the packaging. You know what I mean? Yeah. So take what you can get. You know. One sip at a time. I'm saying. No, it was, there was the tiger beat magazines. Yeah. And like all those like old pop star magazines for like basically teenage white women. Yeah. But I just thought that I was a teenage white woman at myself when I was maybe like 11. So therefore I just deliberately upon myself to have those magazines ripped the things out of the magazines, take them home. I would put like the Hollister bags on my wall. I just became really intro into like literally the bags, like savoring things. Like I used to say for seats, tags, like every memory that I could ever find out. It would be on my wall. And from then being black and white, my mom would just become accepting tonight. Just like stick a photo on there. And she read magazines. And so then I kind of like, so that's her magazines and like put them on my wall. And I didn't realize how much of like a manifestation those things were. Oh, wow. Because I had like the theory. They had this like lookbook.

18:12And I got it. And it was on my wall. And I've shot for theory in the past. But I was like, nice. Thinking back. I was like, did I manifest that? Put it into the universe. Sure. Like with your porn as packaging. You know, live. And like I didn't even realize that that's what I wanted until I happened. Did you think that like repressing not just your sexuality, but music, pop culture, I don't know, funds, partying, like did, did repressing that when you got to New York and you're on your own. Founded 18. We're just like, I got to just eat up life. Yeah. Do it all. Because I really eat her. Well, I was at three. Hashtag. In high school, it was very much like dance school. Like the, my life was planned out for me every day. Yeah. So I think I actually moved to New York when I was 17 and barely legal. I didn't drink at all during high school and like didn't have the time to honestly. So even when I moved here, my main thing, it's kind of sad was to just like hang out with people. That's not sad.

19:13That's socializing. Yeah. But like I feel like everyone else got that sort of moment in high school or middle school. Like where they could like hang out with someone after school. My mom happened when she was 21. So therefore I was just like watching my brother and I just had to grow up really fast. I didn't have a childhood. So when I moved here, it was like my time to be like, I don't really care about anything. I just want to hang out. I just want to run around like I had my little camera. I would just like be by myself walking around the streets listening to music. Like I think that's where the, you're like vlogging the farmer's market. YouTube. His YouTube is available. Folks check it out. Like and subscribe. Like and subscribe. I mean, yes. I didn't even realize where I was in that problem. I didn't even know that I was in Brooklyn at the time. I was just following my friends who were from LA who just like honestly, persons I went to persons was like a wake up call as much as like I love gossip girl was kind of like you go there and like bitch, this is really rich. Yeah. Like bitch got money. Like like there's a farmer's market money. No, like farmer's market money is very different than like GMO money like GMO money.

20:16I'm on that GMO money. Like I'm like, let's get the meal plan. Let's go to the what we have to do. And seeing like all the, all the girls and the designers I found go yard there. I found all the snow the Berkins in real life. And I was just like, this is just insane. I think that's when I was like, I, this is like my playground. You're real in my plague. A real education of the time. Yeah. And I was just shooting everything I could see it, which I think is like why I have this like child like wonder still to this day. Like I just was like enamored like that's one of my things now. Sometimes I'm like, when shooting and I'm like, it's better if I don't meet the person or I don't know the person. So I can really explore them and like be like, let's go for a walk and like, let me try to understand you and like, let's hang out like it should feel like that. Love hanging out. That's what I do. I do. I really do quality time. I love it. Right. So parents, if you want your children to grow up to be successful creatives with a swat of even child, like wonder, just repress the fuck out of them. Yeah. Well, make them grow up quick and then hit them with an arrested development on the flip side. And you're going to get the perfect mixture. I'm saying lock them in the room. Like you have to have two kids want and then have them 10 years apart.

21:19And then you're like, so the oldest, you are now the parent. I'm going to go out live my life. Oh right. Your mom didn't have your brother at 11 at 31. I was just doing the math and I was like, okay, we're good. Yeah. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. You're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. with straight men or a lot of us, huh? Can we come to your parties? I don't throw any parties, but there was a fat party on Friday that you guys met at Emily's at Mulberry Bar. Oh, oh, we've been, we've been. It was 10 out of 10. Oh, it was 10 out of 10. It was invite. We've been texting at that point. We were texting. Honestly, it wasn't my party to do it right. It wasn't your place. I was more so like. You crash parties or do you just like show up and be like, oh, Tyrell's here, you're good. Yeah. I used to crash parties. Yeah, but now I either stay inside or I get invited. Okay. So how many events are you hitting up every week?

22:19It depends what kind of events we're talking about here. Like, just give it a week. Like, let's say, if we're going like out with friends, that's like weekends. So maybe like Friday, Saturday, maybe a Thursday situation, if it's like an event, like this past fashion week, it was kind of like one every day. Oh, well, I mean, it's just the active time there. Wait, what makes this so you said a 10 out of 10 party? What makes a 10 out of 10 party? The music. Okay. Ones, no shade to the Ones people. No, I need, I need lyrics and I need to like, that's, that was so great about the party on Friday, is she played, there was a woman DJ, women and STEM, was she was playing like, chief key, and like, walk a floccah and like, I don't know them. You know what I mean? It was like 10 out of 10, like I was having the best time singing along, shaking ass on the floor. And I just feel like, if the music is horrible at a party, then you can't zone out. And if you can't zone out at a party and you're like too focused on like, getting the drink or like doing the drugs or like doing the thing. Say, you can't zone out, get the ketamine. You know what I mean? If you need to be like, in the music and the vibes

23:20to be like, I'm just floating. What a legacy. A flow state, let yourself go. 100%. When you're hitting flow state, or you're like, oh, fuck, I gotta shoot this bitch. Like, not like that, but you know what I'm gonna say. I used to, I don't do it much anymore, cause now I'm like orchestrating the things and making it, cause I guess I'm getting older. I'm not a child anymore, I'm almost, I'm almost 30. So I feel like I can't like, just shoot people willy-nilly and like be, does that like mess you to stick a camera in someone's face? It was when I was, when I was younger, people would get mad at me. I would definitely. Oh, you're a professional vibe killer? 100%. 100%. Cause I just was like, I don't know if you guys know what China Shaleia is. China Shaleia? Of course. Of course. We were actually there. So I mean, we lived it, brother. Same here. But we were of drinking age. Yeah. Yeah. But I would like go there and just shoot everything. Cause obviously you guys know everyone was there. Like everyone, all the models, producers, like just fashion people. And it was just like, it was like my sexness.

24:21And you might go awesome. Like the celebrities that I looked up to, I could like shoot really nilly. You're like a movie moment. Yeah. So like in the music was fab, it had a little bit of oonspa, a little bit of rap and a little bit of pop. Like it ended up in a different room. Skater boys. A true melting pot. So that was my flow state. I was like moving in that bitch, not that bitch. I was like, which room will I go in? Hey guys, steal a seat here. Go there. So pop, pop, pop out. Yeah. But it would be like, then people were so not worried about the cameras. So I could shoot and like go really nilly. Now everyone's so like looking around waiting for the camera. I was going to say before posting party pics that I before, do you have to get approvals from the people in the photos? No. Really? I'm like, you know what she was doing. Well, you saw the flash. So like the flash gives it away. People are people are like, yo, yo, don't like. No, I know I look like shit. No, or I know I look, you know, because it's tight rail, dude. I think it was some fucking civilian. Like from people get off that. Shout out to me for that. How good are your Photoshop skills

25:22at erasing aren't light dust on us? I don't Photoshop. So what we see is what we see is what we get. Literally. I'm actually really bad at it. I had a teacher who was like, you just, you can't do cosmetics. Well, cosmetic like photos, like, I don't know if I would be good at like, I've done makeup brand and stuff before, but like really going and then being like editing and every blemish or whatever. I just can't. It's not it's too time consuming. But you never post anything where people are like, no, I want to see photo. I want people to look sexy. I want people to look hot. But engaging in like some, you know, deep I have in the past when we were going to me and my friends were younger. And there's some of my favorite images. And who knows you might see them in a book or something. But Ryan begins the action later on in life. Yeah. You got a book coming out? We're working on it. We're working on it. What's the vibe? It's all the party stuff just to like finish that chapter. So I'm kind of like, again, I'm about to, I feel like, every time I tell my agent this, I'm like, I'm almost 30. He's like, it's 30 is nothing. Right. But I'm like, just to close out the chapter of the reference

26:23and all the the childishness, I just want to be like, put a bow on it. Yeah. Like, obviously, I'm going to shoot parties regardless. I just love to do it. But like, we just need to be like, we're grown in like, we can now orchestrate these things and then we have budget to orchestrate them in a sexy way and make it. So like, it's not me and part of someone else's vision. It's my own vision. Gotcha. Is it going to be like a kind of a snapshot, no pun intended of like a time and place in New York City, downtown culture, or is it just like your perspective of the world or combination or something else? I haven't thought that deeply about it honestly, but I just know that I just have so much work from my college years, my first initial years in New York of like Toner Chalet and going out and like, just all these people like throughout the years, I've seen grown, who like have cut their hair, who have had kids now and all this stuff. So I feel like that's kind of, it's more of a love letter to the people around me rather than like, got it, everything else. Is there a way out? You have quite the crew. Yeah. It's a huge crew. And it's only you're officially it.

27:25Yeah. So the next slide you're here. You're the next one you're invited. Is there a trick that you have to, you know, when you're taking these photos, like to make drunk people look good, is there any like special trick that you have or? It might be the dance background. I just feel like in body language, I'm really good at reading body language. So like now when we're out in the club, I can tell when we're on the dance floor, when someone's gonna do something and like once that moment's gonna happen. You're anticipating. Yeah, it's nice. It's like you're shooting ahead of the target. Yeah, literally. But I see what's gonna happen. I'm gonna be shooting content, I would say. Really? That's the guns if you shot. Well, I have straight friends. So, and I have a straight brother. So when we go and hang on, like shoot cut. What do you wanna do? And then I'm like junior range. Yeah. So we go to the gun range. Do people get pissed if you are shooting at a party? And well, first of all, do people start acting like, oh, like, oh, they start acting different when you start showing by? Now they're really? Yeah. And do you indulge that?

28:25Or are you just like, no, I do not entertain it. All right, so if you wanna get shot by this man and you're at a party, do not act inconspicuously. I'm like, all right, that's why one of my best friends, Jordan, how Jordan Daniels, she just knows, now we shoot professionally on set. And if we're shooting other models, she can talk to them in a way that they can understand because I can't really explain what I want, but she can just be like, don't look at him, just like hang out like that. She speaks model. She speaks me. And I'm like that, but she does speak model too. She's translating between you and the model. Yeah. Yes, because I'm like, I'm like, don't, like, don't look at me. Like, she's like, you're just the only Maxwell. 100%. Sorry, I'm not appropriate. It's not not at all. Especially not right now. I'm screaming. When you're out partying, do you like getting your photos taken? Or do you want it just like again, just remain in flow state? No one takes my photo. Get out of here. They do the BFA people do now, but I'm the one who just wants to take photos of other people.

29:26That's kind of sad. And even all my photo dumps I post, I'm like, I'm begging my friends to take my photo. I'm like, can't it? No, that's why I'm like, I look good. I'm like, and the other night I was out with my friend, we were going for walk and I'm like, I look so bad. What the fuck? And I'm like, we stop into the pizza store and I'm like, you're going to take photos of me. Go there, do this blah, blah, blah. You got to stop hanging out with models because they're used to getting their photos taken. They're not the ones you used to the ones taking the photos. No, but you know when everyone has the moment when they're hanging out, when they're in the flow state and you're like, this is so fun. I wish like someone would, yeah, remember this. But like the sometimes everyone has their own personal moment. We're like, I'm sure you guys do. We're like, this is so fun. I want to be like capture, remember this. So I'm like, why don't you all want to capture my beauty? Like I look good every day. You don't selfie? I do, I mean, I do what I can do. I'm only so much. I'm always one person. Who's taking the photos of you when you're in frog pose, spread, spread, legged, whole, a gap. I assume in the day, no kegels there. Who's taking that photo? The people at alo, they are getting paid to promote that place

30:30and that is one of the different moments. So namaste. That is Peter rivalry. We can see your body work there. So if any of your friends are listening, take more candidates photos of this man so he can remember his moments. He's doing it for you. It's kind of like a sad clown thing where it's like who's gonna make the sad clown laugh? He's the clown. We need you to be shot. I know I'm the gesture and it's so annoying. Just like, what am I supposed to do? Yeah, but now I'm, we corrected it on the record right now. Period. When we're out at your 10 and 10 next party, we'll take photos of you. Yeah, easy. Thank you. I would love to have you on or not. Okay, period. But the thing is, I can't remind you. No, you have to know that I'm like, when I'm in it. But do you ever, are you at the station like if you're like, I don't want to take photos, I just want to like experience it? Or do you always, do you feel like the photo needs to exist to like, I don't know, cement it? It depends, honestly. Like I know what certain parties and people are gonna evoke the certain types of energy that I want or I look for in images. So it just depends on where we're going. Like if I know I'm going to a huge dinner with a bunch of models, we'll bring that fucking camera out.

31:30Right, okay. So you do think ahead of time it feels like a reality TV show. Like I'm screaming. Yes, yes, exactly. I know, I know, I pick and choose. You're a producer. Like I didn't bring, this is really saddened. I didn't bring my camera today because I was like, I know that we're just going to push it out. We're just going to fucking pop it after these two pros happening and namaste. Yeah. If you could have your portrait, your portrait on set taken by anyone who you want to shoot it. I'm really obsessed with this, I like this artist, Drake Carr, but he doesn't take images. He's like, I don't even know what type of art you would categorize it as, but it's like, not a painting or a drawing, but like sort of that sort of art. Like a art. Yeah, not that sort of art. So what about photography? Yeah. I don't know. I feel like I take the best photo. You need to clone yourself. If there was two of me, I always say, y'all are not ready. You bitch. I'm finished. Y'all are not ready. You played me in two plays that once. Are you kidding me?

32:32Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I'll be the end of the space time continuum. No, like, no. No, no. The Williamsburg Bridge. Like, they need to build another bridge. No, no, seriously. Happy birthday. I'll turn it to my twin and then like me, I'm at home like you give up. Oh, okay. Yeah, true. Do you ever feel overextended? What do you mean? Like, you have to be in too many places. You have to go to too many events. You just want to be inside. No. Because I'm like, I'm young and like, this is my chance to do everything. And I can have these conversations with my agent. And I'm just like, this is the time. Like, let's do it now. Like, let's do the bike every day. Yeah. Let's like, do the hog and dogs. Like, I'll go pink and I'll, like, I will do, I will be the vessel for anyone else right now. Because when I'm older and I am sick of being childish and like doing whimsical things, I can like pick and choose what I do. Well, I hope that that happens. I hope you never lose your whimsy. But are you clear? No, but it'll just be personal to me. Like, I just want monetize it as much. I'm like, what happened? Like, are you seeing third?

33:32Because you mentioned 30 few times. You see 30 is like the start or the end of one chapter and the start of the next one? Yes. What's the next chapter if you've given any thought to that? It is, it's galleries, it's books. It's just, again, like more intentional things in the world. Nothing will be by accident. Everything will be like thought of tangible. I want to see more things in the world. Okay. You do, you do sometimes post about wanting to quit fashion and walk away from this life of glamour and just disappear into a quiet anonymous life. Maybe in a cottage somewhere screaming. Is there any truth to that? Like, do you actually have those feelings at times? Yeah, I, Michael, I want to be like Narsmith and like move to Connecticut and like have a husband and like a big dog in just like chill and be a housewife. What is that? After you've done the Hoganazis and the monetize Wimsy? That's 40. Yeah, yeah, let's say 40, let's say 40. I would love it if it was like mint dirty.

34:32Okay. Like what do you get bored being a fucking Connecticut housewife? No, because I don't, I don't try to lose me. I just think that there comes a time when, like all my friends and relationships, everyone's doing their own thing. I just think it'll be time for me to pick and choose when I am being seen when I give my energy to people or energy to think. Intentionality like you mentioned. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Well, a hashtag and important. An important hashtag intentionality, hashtag mature. And that's all you really need. Hashtag real eater screaming. Is that all you're feeling today? I'm, dude, I am the real cedar in the game period. Yeah, I'll put that on record every day. I didn't know you knew ball, but period. Go on. I'll start with balls, but isn't it right now? Yeah. It was this past weekend. An important step in your husband journey. Gotta ask, what are, as a photographer, what are some pro tips on taking an elite dick pick? An elite dick pick. Yeah. How do you maximize girth, girth, length?

35:35I appreciate, I appreciate mystery. So I actually don't like dick picks. I'd like like the sweatpants and the briefs and like the, I love like honestly, like swim trunks and things like that. Leaving something to the imagination. Yeah, like I'd rather not see everything. Cause then I'm like, well, then, no, there's no, it's fine. It's no fun. Yeah. So we're talking about taking the photo. Me? Yeah. Oh, I don't take those. Okay. No. No. I thought it was about like, like, like, like turning the camera upside down. I do not take them. And then cropping in. I feel like I can't take news. I feel like that was like, really? I was in high school. See your last IG pic? Yeah. That's all, that's imagination. Like, that's like, boom. Okay. The farthest I'll go is like torso and then some shorts or maybe like, you know, doing the splits and some short shorts in the dance studio. That's just showing you guys my range. Right, right, right. And showing you guys what I'm capable of to imagine future husband. Dispening on it.

36:35You know, yeah. The bouncing on the set. The tricks. Like, you know, I have to let you know that I am capable of the floor routine. I'm multiple. Yeah. Hey, it gets sweaty. Yeah. 10.0 from the judges. What does perform? I hope so. We, okay, we know for a fact that on TikTok, the best performing content is your bike videos, right? And we joked about it and you've joked about it. But it is true. You're like, yo, what's up? I'm with celebrity XYZ and people like, shut up. I'm, shut up. Give me the bike. Ride the bike. Ride the fucking get back on the bike. Tyrell. They really doesn't. No hands. I can do it with my hands. What about an Instagram? Is it the party photos? Is it the showcasing your work, candidates of your celebrity friends or your scintillating thirst traps? What performs best for you? The celebrities. Yeah. Really? Is IG that? I mean, I'm going to ask, is it that shallow? Obviously. It's the news now. Okay. So I feel like that's just what people want to see. They want to see what happened the night before or what's happening with so and so or

37:37whatever the case may be. Like that's why I know my audience on all the platforms. I'm just trying to make them want me more on Instagram so I can get that husband. So that's why I just, I have so many things that I like, I haven't posted the Jennie photos. I know those would do really well. But I'm like, you guys can go to her page for that. Like what can I do to bring you guys that you can't get anywhere else at the beginning? Is Instagram work? And TikTok's fun. Like how do you? What's Twitter? It's screaming. I actually, I have Twitter, but now it's private because I tell her, you won't be private for much about me. No, that's not my, that's not my Twitter. It's not? Oh, that's not my Twitter. That's they won't give me that name. I think it's something like eight year old person who had that name since 2014, I blocked because I've like, I refused to acknowledge that you exist. I tie well too, but Twitter, I know that no, but Twitter, I just yap random things and

38:44steal quotes from Tumblr and then class Instagram is celebrity news and then a hint of like me dancing. That's like, but that's my work. That's my work. You're like, that's your portfolio. Yes. Yes. And then TikTok, I'm like, I just, this is me and my friends just have this real me. Yes. It's interesting, though, that you have like seven X followers on TikTok of people that are where it's you being you versus like you portraying this like curated polished portfolio of your work and your celebrity famous friends like, I mean, it makes sense. I just realized early on that, obviously, I'm very different than a lot of my other counterparts in the industries. Yeah. On both sides, whether it be front facing or behind the scenes. So behind the scenes, obviously, there's so many other photographers who just had a different upbringing than me or are in the museums and had like, they just went a different

39:45route. And I'm just trying to like, sometimes it's hard to sell that what I do or like the TikTok part or me front facing. So I try to leave it to the TikTok. And so that when people are on Instagram, it's more so like the seriousness and like, you as I am an adult, I take my life, my work seriously. So I'm just trying to balance it on trying to understand how to market that. It's a very interesting thing to do in this day and age because I feel like if you didn't like make a book when you were like 18, then you're not going to be seen as like a fine art photographer or you're not going to be seen as like the serious person who orchestrates images and like things really deeply about things because I'm like, I just like one half fun and I just take, hopefully, really good photos of like people when I'm with them, but I don't know how to explain that or like talk deeply about that. It is just is what it is. So is the compartmentalization that's happening do you ever feel like people might underestimate

40:46you because they might just think of you or see you as a party photographer? It's 100% 100% 100%. And that's why I want a social chapter. because I just feel like, again, this rolodex of images that I have in my head thanks to like being on the internet for my whole life, I feel like I am more than like the party photos because that was just like when I was in college and like having fun and things like that. Like I just want to just, I don't know how to, because I want to still do it, it's just hard to like do that. And then you take it seriously and do like campaign and things like that. But you are, I mean, you are doing the campaigns and the covers, yeah. But as you move, are you trying to move into like the gallery and the museum and the serious art world for like a better fucking phrase? Like, yeah, have you, is this all in your head perception or have you actually run into rolodeblocks because people just, you know, they see your silly goose personality online and like, oh, well, it's not at all to us. That, and also they just don't know who I am.

41:47The fine art world doesn't know who I am. So I feel like the books, like I went to like some publishing companies and was like, can I make this book? And then they're like, this just isn't the book that we're making right now because that's, but I just want to be seen by some of those big corporations. And in order for me to be seen by those big corporations, I have to make a different type of work. So thus, I'm like, really this year working on this show and in September and things like that. So can you tell us anything about the show? It's just completely different than the party of it's like the complete opposite. It's not at night time. They're more like composed photography. It's not women. So it's just very different. Is it like composed photography? Is it like it travels and falls? Like it's, I would say, yeah, I would say thoughtful. Like I'm going into every shoot that I'm doing and being like, how can I, how am I seeing this in the world? How can I explain this? Cause I feel like I'm gonna have to. And also like, can I see this in someone's house? Cause at the end of the day, I do want to have,

42:48yeah, I want to put them in, I want to have work in someone's house. I want them to live past me and immortalize. Oh, you want collectors? Yes. Yes. Should be grown. I feel like you're putting a lot of pressure on yourself to like, be grown. Mm-hmm. Like, where does that come from? It might be my mom. She's a Capricorn. So I feel like, what's your guys' friends, by the way? Cancer, Aries, period. Okay, it's late. I'm on a good group. And you? I'm a Libra. Of course. You know what that means? You know what these mean? Like, no. Air sign. Yes. Oh, shit, okay. But my mom's a Capricorn. So she's very much a workaholic. So she just put a lot of, not pressure, but maybe think of like five steps ahead. Okay. So I'm like, that's why I'm always anxious about like, what the next step is and trying to think what, how I can do to like, what is it? Give myself a long jeopardy. Sure. With anything that I do. Do you think you're successful right now? Does your mom think you're successful right now?

43:48My mom does think I'm successful. Cause I know it's, it's clearly important to your mom, Chanel. But she called me like two days ago and she's like, do you have work this week? And I'm like, I don't know how to be like, no. That's, that's, that's mom. That's mom. But I'm like, like, what do you want from me? Like grandchildren, you know, but I'm like, I'm trying, girl, like I'm trying. Like it's just not that easy. But I think that's why I'm, I just want, and I also want to bring her into my world a bit, her and my brother. And the only times they've ever been a slightly intrigued is when I am doing celebrity work. Oh, really? So I'm just trying to bring them into like, something that they can feel, have access to regardless of the celebrities. Like, I will be like, someone to like, to my, my brother, what is it? Who did I shoot? I shot like some rapper and then his friends found out about it and then he was like, oh, I heard. Oh, okay, be right here. Like this is fun. And then my mom, I must feel good, right?

44:48Yeah, it was, it was cool, but I was like, I don't know if this is what I want him to like, think of me. Oh, I see. And then my mom, when I shot maybe like Billy Eilish, she was like, I know who Billy Eilish is. So it's just hard trying to like, make them understand, like what it all means to me. I mean, welcome to the fucking our life. Like I'm saying, hardcasters. Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving, hardcasters. We can be like, Mom, I'll FaceTime you would do a leopie. Do a leopie. Do a leopie. Come to our show on September. But like, you're like, I'm a professional rapper and like, I, in a way, this is like therapy, but it's like hard to like, go to talk about it unless you're like about to like go deep into it and be like, what does this all mean? I'm like, we're motivational speakers. Don't worry about it. You know what I mean? But like, how can you just, but let that be without you having to explain it? But this is mom. This is Mrs. Hampton, mucher, just being mom. Yeah, mom vibes. Yeah, but it's just a lot. I feel like maybe because it's growing up with the dance background, it was a lot of pressure

45:50of like, making sure she was dance mom. Was she a dance mom? I wouldn't say she was the quintessential dance mom, but she was definitely someone who was just like, are you stretching? Is your homework done like, you know, any spare time you have? Are you a heterosexual dancer? You're not, no, no. Okay. I got that out of the way. We were like any spare time I had, I had to make sure that it was being used wisely. Accounted for fucking black swan shit. Yes. Yes. And I'm turning into the other one of home. Cause it's just like, so much pressure. Yeah. I'm looking at the mirror, like scrubbing my name off every time I'm back. Full mental breakdown. Literally. Have you, okay, besides your internal internal development and evolution and relationship with your mother, what have been the hardest parts about transition from like party downtown fashion space into like the art gallery space? I'm still doing it, but it's just having serious conversations and following up, which I feel like is about emailing,

46:52being an adult, like just being professional. Yeah. And just being like, I'm so interested, like, let's talk. Or like, you know, I didn't realize that the half of the, the to make out all that happened is me falling up and circling back. Yeah. I'm like, it sucks. I wake up in the morning and like, you know, they're like, they hit you back at five times. Like, I thought that's what it was. No one double text in like a double email. No, no, no. I'm like, just be our girl. It's just Google being like, do you want to respond? Yeah. Did you respond? AI becomes your mom where it's like, follow up. You better let them back. And then it's like what it says the little, um, fucking like the, the, the look, uh, not the conclusion, like the sparks notes of the things. I'm like, oh, yeah, summarizing. And I'm like, what the, like, there's no person, like, what am I supposed to say back? You need a, do you have, you have an agent? I do. Do you have a, do you have a manager? She's the, he's the all in one. Okay. Wow. They're not doing this work for you. They're like getting you deals, but they're not like, well, no, no, you take care of everything.

47:53But I also feel like, and I tell them all the, all the time, I'm like, what can I do to help you? So that, I feel like I'm not sitting on my ass. And I'm just like, like, what can I do to like, give us, get this money when my mom calls and asks me if I'm working this week, I want to say, yes, what can I do to work? Have you made yourself a dentist's appointment in the last five years? Yes. Okay, good. I'm on my beautiful, beautiful trompers. Thank you. I had braces and I met my dentist at Lucian, which is brilliant. That's, he looked at my teeth and he was like, I can fix that for you. Oh, yeah. I had like, I could fix her, he fixed me. How long did you have braces as an adult? All of COVID. So, oh, perfect. And an extra year. COVID's the best thing I've ever had here. It was. But I kept calling because I'm so anal and I'm emailing, like, so I'm like, is this still going to work? Like, do I need to come in and get them re-tightened and he's like, you're fine. So dentistry, you're following up. Hell yeah. That's in the teeth. Yeah. I'm like, I'm all for it. Triple texting. No, I'm like, I'm I still good to go.

48:53Yeah. What should I be doing? I'm, I'm chat GBTing like, what vitamin should I, I'm like cosmetic moons. What about, let's talk, let's get into the, the lore of this mustache. Screaming. I got it. Maybe when I was like 11. You got it. What? Damn. That this thicker was not this thick, but it started growing around like 11. Okay. And it was this thick, I would say 11. Maybe my junior year, junior high school. And you've had it since then for like 10, 15 years. I mean, I like, I just cut it off. Maybe like two months ago. How did that feel? Ooh, make it. It was weird. Yeah, it was weird. What was the response from the homies? They loved it. Oh, really? They loved it. Fresh face. Oh, you're so cute. And I'm like, that's what I don't want. I want to be like grown in sex. Oh, and you're like, I wasn't cute before by the way. Like what? Right, but I'm trying to get fine shit. That's my goal. That's my goal. Well, are you still speaking of fine shit? Are you still to skater boys? Or are you sick of sleeping on mattresses on the ground with no back frills? I've never had a skater boy. Really? Just coveted them from afar? No, I don't even think, I don't know.

49:55They're always like, all my friends are like, there's one gay one. And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? So I never had one. Some of them are by. Yeah. And they say that. But then I'm like, we go out and because I feel like I am not shy, but around men that I like, I don't do much. So I'm like, I, and I'm also not very flamboyant, I would say, when I'm around them. You're like a pillow princess in the club. You know, so I'm just trying to, I'm very side. I don't know if you guys know what that means. Very side? Yeah, it's a new gay term. It's like, you don't like do anything else. You just like cuddle and like, oh, okay. I think it's very cute. You're not fucking. No, okay. So I, in the club, I'm not, I fucking, I'm not doing it. I'm very like, you're siding in the club. I'm chatting to my girls being like, he's so cute. Like, what should I do? Flutter and cuddle eyes. I walk by and then I just let it go. And you don't frog pose in front of them? No, I'll, hey, if there was space, if there was space, you could just drop to a split. I want, I do want a skater boy. Yeah. I want a boy. I want like a dude, like a, like a FedEx worker.

50:58A fellow. I think I want just like, shout out to again, Jay Massacre, like daddy. I just, yeah, like just someone who's just like, I feel like I don't, obviously don't know him and I want to protect anything onto him. But from what I, he looks like, I just feel like he can take the reins. Oh, he's out here posting shirtless pics as well. I mean, I want someone to just take the reins. Like, okay. I don't want to do any like Santa Claus. When I am miss Claus, I want to be a doll. When I'm miss Claus is doing too much. Should we arrange here? I'm just, no, I just want to, I want to be an elf. No, not even too much pressure. Only Dixon. Ollie pocket over here. Blitzons doing the splits in. Maybe the snow globe. Okay. I don't want to do anything. I don't want to do anything. Okay. You want to stop it. Yeah, I'm sorry. Like, I don't want to do anything. I just want to like be picked up in a cute car and sit pretty and talk. Like, I feel like, I just want to do that. I don't want to be like a, do you want to be like, do you want to be a kept man? I want a friend. I can't do it. You want to be a male friend is one of your, imagine I'm just like, this is a cry for help.

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53:00I do, but from the wrong people, they still have to be like physically attractive. I don't want to go just like high. You don't want to sub five. No, I want like a dude in like, like, I had this screaming. I had one of my favorite munches I had. He was my ex also, but one of the other ones I had was he had tattoos and he was huge. And he was just like such a man. And he just was like, let's go to the movies. And like, I think that's attractive to me. You're like, OK, I can't do, I don't want to date someone who wears speedo. I can't do like any more flamboyant than me. Like, I just want my man to be what playing with the other straight men and the other one watching sports or whatever. And that's me with my girls. Right. Just yapping, like, that's, that's what I want. You want to be a housewife, like you said? That's what I'm going to do. I'm told what to do. Yes, yes. We're going to the movies. Yeah. We're watching the Super Bowl. Yes. Yeah. We're going to Selene. We're going to fucking Selene and it's on your dime. Oh, he needs to be rich or he wouldn't say he needs to have a job and

54:04point because it's hard to find on a fine. OK. Right. Well, if you look at the skater boys maybe, but yeah, but even they got some money. So hey, do you prefer to date within the fashion world or is that too? Would you rather like a normie? That's, you know, it has all these attributes, but it's like a normie in his, you know, it has like a nine to five email job or something or it's like a FedEx. It actually wanted the month. I do love FedEx. I just like that one. It'll form. It really just depends if they can do for you. Teach me something else. What can brown do for you? UPS. UPS. Yeah. But still honestly delivering my package. And vice versa. Yeah. But airmail that shit. What is it? Just like, it's more just like conversation. Like I forget the question, but I think dating, dating inside or outside the fashion world. So yeah, I can't, I don't know. I need someone to teach me something completely different. Okay. But that's why I'm like FedEx. I'm like, let's go construction. Let's go like trade. Let's go sports. Like I don't, I know enough about my industry that I don't need someone.

55:04We don't need to be terrific. Right. That's work. But if you ever dated outside or bit or munched outside the fashion world, where they're like, why are you always going out or like, why are you going like, like, they don't get your world? No. Because if they're fun, which should be the root of the man that I see, yes, they'll just want to hang out. Like I used to not drink and go out so I could like hang out and yeah, for hours. And like just have a good time. I don't need to like really like party or like, yeah, like you can still, it's more just hanging out. Like if you can hang quality time, like you said, you're my favorite boom, all right. No fashion. No fashion guys need to apply here, but you still got to have some style. Oh. Yeah. Is it a bad style? Is that immediate? No. Yes. You can't salvage them. You can't be like, let me dress you. No, because I don't want to change anyone. I'd rather them just be who they are and like that be something they're interested in. Like if they're like, if they have like a cute outfit on, it's just like, and they

56:05know that what they like, I'm like more into that than us being like, let's go shopping and find you like a cute, like immune sweater. Right. I'm not trying to like be yourself. Yeah. I respect your personal style because his money is my money and my money is my money. So like, I'm going to the store. It's the one way street. Yeah. Then spend it on me. Yeah. When it does finally warm up and we're past, you know, we put the puffers back in storage. Screaming. What are you hoping to see? The fell is wearing this spring summer, whether they're your munch munchies or not. Sweep hands. Okay. In the summer. Great. Sweep basketball shorts. Yeah. You just want to see what religion they are. 100%. Yeah. I like a like baggy t-shirt like under the muscle or over the muscles. Like I don't want to see a tank top. I don't want to see the thought outfit, which used to be like the open flannel and the tank top and the like car heart pants. I'm interested in like just just chill. Just like comfy. Do less. Yeah. Like I love Sex and City.

57:05What's his name? Miranda's boyfriend. No. Steve. Steve didn't give a fuck. No one's Steve. Like a Brooklyn guy. He look cool. Just like hang out. Like who cares? Like you're going to look good regardless. Like where the corner is if you want to like who cares like what the munchies to be comfy. Yes. I and I used to be obsessed with this man who wore crocs. I have a pair of crocs also, but I'm like that was just so hot to me. Like crocs in the street. Like go off. Like you're just a dude. You don't care. Right. Like because I'm overthinking everything. So I'm like maybe if he doesn't care, then it'll rub off on me. The interior. Yeah. Exactly. And then my crock, shitty sweatpants and like I really just want to. Do you feel like you don't have friends you're surrounded by besties all the fucking time? Male friends. I do. I do. I do have male friends. Okay. Good. Just ones that I want one that I can sleep with. I can cuddle with. Yeah. Yeah. A friend with benefits. Yes. Side benefits. Yes.

58:05But the benefit being a room at some point. A side piece. You want a side piece. And literally a side piece. Not the entree. That a moose boosh. What is that? A little starter. Here it is. What's a broccoli knee on the side? Maybe I'm the broccoli knee. Oh. And they're the entree. Like I want to be the rock to their star. Like I want them to shine. And I just played the back. Okay. Really? Yeah. But you're the star. And I know that. Yeah. Right. We're just why you can say this. Exactly. I know what I know what I can bring to the table. So I just need to know that they can bring that to the table. Well, you are flush with friends. Of all your baddie besties that you've worked with, who's the biggest dealer on set? The biggest deal. But probably Jordan. Yeah. Because she can just walk over me because she just were friends. She's like, I know what I want. And sometimes I'm like, but she's like, you don't get it. Like she speaks makeup. She speaks glam. She speaks all the things. So I feel like that's a friend and like someone who I work with a lot that she's just like, you just don't get it. So we're just going to make it work and make it happen.

59:07Use the DOM or the sub. And you like that. Yes. Is that from a, because you guys are like a dynamic duo or is that just who she is? I think, no, I think it's because of our, our duo. Okay. You're the only photographer. She treats like shit is what you're saying. Yes. But I can take it because I know that we're going to have the best end product. And once you overstepped the diva threshold, are you like, bitch, getting one? Yeah. We go, we go back and forth and then everyone else is kind of scared of us because they think that we're serious because I'm like, bitch, what do I say? And she's just like, no, I'm going to do with the fuck I want because you don't get it. And I'm going to let me do my job. Like we get into that. Fireworks on. Let me do. Let me do my job. Yeah. Yeah. But in order for me to do my job, she has to get her her job. So like, it's all love. But it does. We're brother and sister. Have you guys ever fought? No, seriously. Play fighting only. Like you're like, you're like, you're mowing on set and then almost every effort is all just friends like, I don't consider the fights fights because it's just like petty.

1:00:07Like if it's a fight, it's kind of like, maybe like in the studio, it's maybe about like hair and makeup and I'm not understanding. And she has to like over explain, which is kind of annoying to someone who has to over explain. And then outside of the studio, it might just be like, I am not understanding what she's saying once again. Like, she's like, you just don't get it. And I'm like, because I forget that I'm a boy. And being around a lot of girls, you forget that like girls have different brains. Like they, they see the world completely different. I'm like, I'm like, I'm just so chill sometimes literally your chill and she's operating at higher frequency. Yeah. And so I'm like, I don't really understand what you're saying is she's just like, and you don't. And you never will. And I'm like, okay. And sometimes I've got to be like, that's just the way it's a communication thing. That's that. Yes. Let me go. Yeah. And then it's all fun and games. We're intimidated on set during photo shoot during the GQ, man of the year, all those shoots with all those celebrities in a confined hotel in the Chateau was very overwhelming.

1:01:11Who was that? That was Walton Goggins, right? Walton Goggins. Very naked. Very naked. Was he Walton hoggins? I didn't get a good look. Oh, so you could just Google this and see where's the speedo? Like for the he wore a speedo of like all of 2025. No, I'm just kidding. I think the cigarette was a hog. You weren't able to peep. You weren't able to peep me. No. I don't think I. He's working. Yeah. Is that like a special thing? Like, you know, I guess you don't want to sexually harass on set. I guess. All right. Yeah. I'm not Bruce Weber. He's not my type. Also, I will say. So I feel like that's why I was too old. Too bold. No way. Too bold. No way, bro. Screaming. He doesn't have the title. We don't speak. Yeah. Screaming. He's not locked in like you, bro. Oh, screaming. Who else was in that shoot? Walton. Walton. Seth Rogan. Okay. Stephen Colbert. Oh, that's right. Smokely Bee. Yes, which was iconic. Right. That was really, really. Was it real? Was it real?

1:02:11Yes. It was just like, and then what I mean was like, Haley had paparazzi was like in an airplane or a drone. It was just like this. And I was like, this is just so it was so much pressure, I think, and in those moments I remember that I am still a kid and I'm like, I need like, I need a matcha. I need some candy because this is like overwhelming and like, I'm a baby. I need candy. Yeah. Like, it was just like celebrity here, celebrity there. And you forget that like, they're everyone around you is like watching you guys, and it was still open and stuff like that. So it's just, when you're having your boys with Haley, right? Yeah. So it's not like, it's not the celebrity and stuff. It's more just like the scale of this one shoot was her and I are like locked in like how many drone are locked in, but like it's just everyone else. Like you did, you forget that like not everyone else has the privilege to be around them all the time. For an A-lister, like a Lister in that scenario, who's not your bestie like Haley and you're having like this, you know, you're anxious, you're not having a meltdown, but you're going

1:03:11through it. How much patience does a guy like Seth Rogen or Cole bear have for you in that moment? Like, I mean, what is it? Seth was honestly super chill. He was ready. He was, he was fun in games. Like, let's do it. I was like, okay, game, Stephen Cole bear was also a game. He's just like, I've just played music, which is why the club is my favorite, but I was just playing like, like, rap music, like, aim tripling and like, maybe come like a bio and then I go like, take McCray and like, I would just like sing along to my songs in order for me to like, zone out what was happening and I feel like that's how I would either make them laugh or get them, get them to be like, we're here. It's me, me together. So I feel like that was the easy part, but it was just how everyone around us, the circuit, looking and you're just like, I need some air. Is that a key to your success is your child like wonder and, and Joe out of Eve is like infectious that, you know, the person shooting a catch it? I mean, you guys tell me I'm feeling curious as fuck boy. I had a period that hashtag yeah, hashtag curious is fuck, I think it's coming across.

1:04:17We've been doing this for an hour feels like 10 seconds, you know, period. What is that like a to get people like relax and chill, besides giving Stephen Colbert some good LA cushion again, I like hanging out. So I think it truly is like in those moments when I don't know them or if I really know them, I just some like at the end of the day, we're here and like, we just want to make fun pictures. So I'm like, what would I want to do if I was you? If I was in front of the camera right now, what's fuck would I do to be honest, I probably do a split or like a backflip or something. Yeah, but I'm like to tone it down like, you know, if I'm wearing this outfit, what can we do to like still make it fun and like, you know, not so stiff and like we're doing this like huge shoot that everyone has to be so strong and fierce and like no energy, you know, who's the most fun celebrity beverage shot that actually they brought the fun themselves. Um, I think that's a good question because you've shot them all, baby, yeah, I'm like they surprised you with how down to clown they were.

1:05:21Um, it's nobody been oh, why yo since I've been surprised you cut because you knew them or you just were like, you've been around, you're a grizzled vet at this point. Like in the surprise that they were like getting surprised, but just like, you know, who just who had the most fun, who had the most fun on that shoe or just in general, uh, in general. In the world. Hmm, I won't do I'll say, yeah, I probably say Haley, she's the best celebrity I would say to shoot. She's like my favorite person. Does she bring everyone? She makes for everyone. I've actually never had one. Bad friend. It's literally like to expect either so hard to get one sold out or exactly so or they're $4,000. Yeah. Yeah. It's a dessert. She says that it's for bulk. It's a liquid cake. Yeah. You're like cake. Aren't you straight? I'm a real real eater too. Straight men. We love cake.

1:06:22Real cake eater. Yeah. Oh, okay. I love hashtag. Talk about butts. The real boss. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like whenever we're on set, we're just locked in like we just can run around. We just like that's how we first met. We were in a hotel room and we just like shot around the hotel and we just like had fun. Nice. Are you thinking about when you're meeting a celebrity for the first time you're shooting them? Is there any part of you that's like, I am going to make this person love me and we're going to have a relationship when the, you know, the lens cover goes back on. You think about that at all or does it just happen supernaturally? It just happens. The only thing I think about before is what their sign is and if they're fun. Okay. Like just being like, are they actually like, do they want to have fun? Like do they want to explore and like run around or do they want to just like whenever we are in my, I'm shooting to be honest, men, straight men. I'm usually like, I know that they're, it's a smaller scale of like how much energy you guys are going to like go.

1:07:22Like you don't have hair to flip and you know, you don't have like whoops to play with and things like that. We have pocket. Hand in this pocket. Hand in this pocket. You got to be creative. Maybe we do this. We got this. We got this. So that's why we have Stephen Colbert and in the pool with the joint where like how can we like make this next level, but still have him look masculine. How can we have a straight man pretend that he's having a good time, but you know, sometimes it's hard to like, you guys still want to, I still want to respect you guys as masculinity and thank you, you know, be like, so I want you guys in like this and a skirt and like all this stuff. Like I don't want to project my thing. Sure. Do you ever, do you ever feel like your force, you have to force your like, so you should have fucking game. Yeah. No. You guys like tits. No. Yeah. With my with my friend. Yeah. Like they were watching before the Super Bowl. There was like some game you were watching and they started talking about tits and I was just like on my phone taking selfies and then they were like, are you recording this right now? And I was just like, honestly, yeah. Thanks for coming. I'm like, what are you talking about?

1:08:23I'm holding you accountable. And also like, there's nothing for me to do with combo. Right. And spy. No. Literally. And give the t back to my girls. Like, you better shut up. So, you know, these hornogs are talking about it. Literally. Shocking. And it's honest. It's just, it's insane. Well, we're talking about how you do a lot of work for, you know, in editorial and ad campaigns for the big spread of the world. What's the most annoying thing about working for or with clients? For the first time, usually, it's the hardest because it's hard to, again, explain like my process to someone who doesn't know. And so that's, it's kind of nice to have the same producers on the same sets. So they can really explain how my process works because I'm shield you for like the big, the big. The title. Just to be, because sometimes it can be like, they're like something they might see something on a screen, but it's not the final. So then they kind of are like, well, this isn't really how it's supposed to look and how

1:09:24we want it to look. But then it's like, just give me a second to like Spanega. Yeah. Like, let me just like. High down sweetheart. But that's when I'm like getting to my head. I'm like, I'm just this child. Oh, no. And I'm like, they don't see me and I need to be an adult so they can be, they can respect me and be like, let him do what he does. But do you have, you have, you have conviction in your own self now, especially with like, you can be like, bitch, Gucci, like, you know, you can, I don't mean, I don't do that. But on set now, I'm just like, I just say no. Like if someone is expressing me or wants me to do something and I'm like, yeah, I'm just like, so your people pleasing, you're combating your people pleasing and learning how to say no. Yeah. Powerful stuff, which is, it's really, it's really hard. Are you, are you, do you hate confrontation? No. No. Seems like he kind of loves it. I don't know that react. I do. That's my flirting technique and I feel like it's got me in a lot of trouble. You don't say it's got me in a lot of trouble. I'll be making fun of someone and all of a sudden, my friend is like, you were just

1:10:24so rude to them. And I'm like, I'm sorry. I mean, I was having so much fun. You made the one gay skater boy cry. I was having so much fun. I'm like, was he not having fun? You're bullying this guy. Yolo. Yeah. I want someone to just go tip-retach. Just look a bit. Oh, okay. Like a verbal sparring. Yeah. Let's go bar for bar. Yeah. Um, as someone that puts their life out online so much like, you know, your personal self and what people are really gravitating and, you know, it's reverberating, resonating with what aspects of your life do you refuse to put out there online? There's no, there's no limit, I guess. Really? No one. I've never been tested. To get involved. They never like, they've never put like, STD test results on TikTok because he's never been tested. All right. Get ready with me to go to the testing center. No, yeah. I feel like. Part two. See the results. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:11:24I mean, I do not film in my house. Okay. So no one. No one address. No one's ever seen me. I don't know what this honestly. I'm going to tell you. I don't know. Yeah. Got it. He just moved. Got to ask your agent to put it in the Uber. Yeah. No 100%. I just click home. I click home. That's the behavior. He doesn't even know his own address. Um, yeah. I don't shoot in my house. I probably I don't really show my mom and my brother. No family. No, no, no family. No, no family. No, no family. No, no family. No family. Yeah. Um, respect. Yeah. I don't. Yeah. That's pretty. But everything else. It's on the table for now. Yeah. Like I will dance per money. I will bike per money. I will take a photo per money. That is for buddies. Yeah. For the people. Yeah. So now I say dance for the people. Because yeah, there's nothing. I won't. I won't. I won't. I just won't do what that isn't me. So I'm not makeup. I won't do makeup. I mean, I do. I'm not doing. I mean, I do. I do. I do. I don't do that. It was makeup.

1:12:24I just was asked to like promote. Like some sort of makeup. And I just was like, I don't wear makeup. Right. So I feel like it would just be. Inauthentic. And it's just skin care team. What are you? I mean, now it's a three step. It's like a cleanser or a toner. Maybe a little oil. And then sunscreen. What about these brows? Yeah. They are. They have been that race and I've been born alive. You know, you came. You came out to warm with these thick boys. Popped out with the caterpillars. It's really, yeah. They would make fun of me in school, McDonald's. Of course they would. Oh. And then they would say the caterpillar. Damn. And they're your superpowers now. They are. And if I was straight, I feel like every woman comes up to me and either compliments my lashes or my eyebrows. You don't curl your lashes. Wow. That's just natural beauty. I do nothing. Wow. I just wake up and put the other one on. I go to the gym. I do go to the gym. That's fine. I wake up every morning. Your eyes. I don't really. What's the fitness routine just generally? It's a dance. I do a lot. I do a lot. I do a lot. I do a lot. I do a lot.

1:13:25I do a lot. I do a lot. He does it all. Like five days a week. Wow. Good for you, man. Sometimes seven. Because I just. Well, I'm like, if I like the fashion week of it all, it didn't have time to do anything. So it makes up for those workouts when I have nothing going on. Right. So when you're not in gym. And you're scrolling. How terminally online are you? I'm actually not. I'm probably the worst at my phone, I would say. What's your screen time? Yeah. We got to come on. This is, but you're about to purge yourself. I'm live. It's going to scream. And then we're going to, we're going to also going to do it by app as well. It's creaming. Yeah. Um, screen time. Let's see. Drum roll. For four, four hours. Oh, my God. Four and a half. Four and a half. That's really impressive. You're going to wait. That's this week. That's only been two days. You're going to wait. You're going to wait. That's really impressive. You're going to wait. That's this week. That's only been two days. Go to last week. How? Um, slight, swipe that way. Oh, screaming. Okay. Four and a half hours. You all. Okay. There's going to be weeks where we're.

1:14:25Okay. Seven and a half. Seven and a half. That's normal. Namaste. Four and a half. Number one. Number one is ticked. Number two. Number three. Messages. Okay. You know what? If it's messages, I feel like that's okay. You're just commuting with your friend. I don't. I'm the. Maybe on my phone, but I'm not like a responder to texts and calls. That's all right. I mean, I probably will screen them. And I just. Yeah. I'm like, I need a moment to myself. And I won't be. Yeah. I give my first hangout to the first person that asked me. Oh, wow. Oh, for sure. Everyone gets mad at me for it. Cause I like, well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do this. I wonder that. Well, I'm like, you should have asked me this morning. So if it's like a tier C friend, but they ask first, they get out. Wow. This is. I don't pay attention. Yeah. So I do people like different, crews that you like you're like, I'm with crew A. I'm with. I'm with the fashion crew. I'm with the dance Crew. I'm with the eyebrow crew. I know. I know. And yeah, it's those worlds. Dan, I don't make them. They mix themselves sometimes, because of parties in New York. But. No, it makes it fun for me because I just love to just roam through the realm.

1:15:29Like I just like. Just like on the talk talk, talks, smells of you're like a dad, and then Imersky. Oh, that's. You never you never it's the lendement. And you know you're leaving the function centre. It's too much pressure and I also hate saying bye too many people to say bye to probably in your policy Yeah, and then you say one to one and then you can't you can't leave it's the right thing to do Yeah, no one's ever gonna remember the goodbye. It's ethical. It's an ethical way to leave and I'm I'm gonna text you like five minutes What do you do to force yourself to log off and heal any brain rot your experiencing the gym? Okay, that's like your soul your phone away and locker gone therapy. Yes What what's your four-year-page look like these days? It's a bunch of men. Okay. It's tick this tick-tock tick-tock Yeah, but it's a bunch of men. It's giant schnauzers, which is my dream dog Okay, then getting like their baths and stuff and then it's just like Atlanta tick-tock like Zack Spees and like Baddies and fights in like random drama and stuff like that. Why Atlanta? Because I well, I guess being from Billy It's just like I like a little like hood culture. Yeah, Atlanta's like Hollywood. It's the Philly the South

1:16:33So, yeah, so I fillies the Atlanta the North and I get my like my Baltimore club music and I like Detroit stuff So I like to keep that alive. I have my one friend who's from Louisville, Kentucky and her and I That is like our world like we watch the baddies. We know love and hip-hop That's why why I was like that's our like we know our shit like we are like we hood fiends like that You know ball when it comes to yes the wags Let's go play future somewhere like where are they playing R&B like let's go here Neo like I don't want to hear nothing Where are they playing? Yeah, where do you go out? There's the um the what is it record room the red room record room It's in Queens, but I honestly just follow DJs around. Okay, so there's His name I don't know if it's I think it's mochi. He's my favorite DJ He DJs at the record room in Queens, but he DJs other places and Brooklyn and he only plays like nice R&B Like I want to hear that. Yeah, you would have you would have loved kinfolk. Oh, yeah, there's a go. Oh my god I missed a little era in Brooklyn. Why does that sound familiar? It was a store store. Well, there was a magazine. Which is like white gentrifier. Yeah, yeah

1:17:39There was a clubs slash bar slash retail store in Williamsburg. Oh shit But uh, yeah, damn it was a moment. Wow. Yeah, I only want to hear R&B music I want to hear Tray songs and Usher and like I Want I want that back. What about your IG Explorer page? What are you seeing there? It's workouts and men in Brazil Notionals are an evolved notion out of this Like the Fevella boys with the blonde hair. Yeah City, like bokeh and like they they have nice bodies So I feel like sometimes it's like a mix between attraction and also like the physique. I'm trying to like Operational. Yeah. Why do you book a gig down there? Yeah. Have you been I've never been I'm not that gay yet But You're not a passport bro. No, no, it's on my list sex tourism Sex tourism is on the list scared. I don't I'm like I don't know if I can handle that I am pretty I am an inside person as outside as I am like I love my house and my couch and my TV like I be chilling What do we want your big reality TV guy? What are we watching right now? I'm what I'm gonna start traders nice

1:18:42It's from the beginning or this season Everyone says start season two because season one wasn't that good no shape to traders, but So gonna start there. I'm watching tell me lies. Mm-hmm, which is the best show ever I just watched a love story honestly not that much reality TV anymore because there's not that much good stuff I'm not a housewives guy. Oh really I'm not if you could join one show for a season. What do you what would you pick? That's airing right now or just of all time um Screaming either friends Oh like like as a character. Yeah, I would obviously were you talking reality? I think it was like a reality TV I'm like to be on side-field. I would do traders. Yeah. Yeah, I would do you be a trader or faithful Um whoever wins Well, it's how good of a gamer would you be a good at us? I think I'd be a trader I'd be scheming and lying or would you be like the oh damn you caught me Yeah, or would you be a kind of like trying to sniff out the schemers and the liars and the snakes? Yeah, I think I'm more better at scheming. Oh, you're a trader. Did you were you were born to be a trader? I think I can keep a secret

1:19:47That's I feel like that's why I could be a trader. Okay, and I feel like I could win That's the only I don't know if you guys remember like I love money With like I like New York. I remember like I love New York. Yeah, like Tiffany Pollard. Yeah She had a show called I love money where they like were All the people from like rock of love Tila tequila's stuff. Okay, we're just trying to win. I think it was like a 50k So it's like a tragic show Damn the rooting the lies for it was 2000. They love you can't play them. They said they were Jersey Shore I would be sure the first man on Jersey Shore Miami season two Miami Miami Yes, and and I would yes, are you following all them now like Sookie just had a cancer scare, but I think she's good Like the mic the situation is open up a rehab. It's not rehab. It's a motivational center. Only Sami. I only she's come married Yeah, I only I only like pay attention to her and like her store In Jersey or in Jersey should have offered to shoot the wedding Well, not no, the lookbook not now. What about the look book or store? Oh, I don't if she I could I will DM

1:20:48I don't feel like I feel like I don't know if I'm her vibe Sami Sami sweetheart My Pisces queen If you had a reality show that focused on you and your friends. Oh god. Who would be starting the most shit Um screaming I can't be you Who besides you would be so Due to the show or just due to the friend group due to the just dynamic of like oh, I'm on camera Yeah, like hey, did you hear what this person's playing it out? You know, I would say my friend Andrew It's his dream to be a reality guy. Yes, so I feel like he would be the one Withering hamming things is he is he like that in real life is he like yo Honestly, you're what no, but he does know everything. Oh, but he doesn't move like his life is already a reality TV show No, only like if we're in a party and he's just like if we if we see a guy that he likes For someone that he used to talk to then it turned into a reality show because kind of like We're now we're for the cameras, right? So everyone's watching he loves the drama. Yes

1:21:49Yes, have you guys ever been approached because you like you guys are movies and shakers big personalities about has anyone ever like been like What would it cost like how can we do this they have okay? I know hard to Be in the rooms that I guess I'm in specifically Yeah, with a crew Yeah, so I feel like because I'm I'm The plus one and some and some of those experiences So I feel like it's kind of hard for me to like take the lead and be like follow me along to be the BTS guy Oh, the plus one. Yeah, life old plus one. I mean honestly great concepts. No, I don't know, right? But I don't know if everyone else. Oh, I don't know if they would agree So fairly Bieber would love that No No, she would not I think she's more private than anyone. I know for sure. How do we adjust on the show? He's definitely not doing the show. Oh He is definitely who talks will talk Skylar will pretend it's good. Yeah. No, it's so good. Is it I just got the um The Haley coat. Oh, right the um the black one. It's in my dump if you guys saw but it's if it's me so well. Yeah

1:22:50How do we get those boxers? I don't know he made boxers the for the grimmies. Oh screaming He's the billboard you con boxers. I'm screaming who in your role dex is the most famous person that you could get on this podcast. Yeah, sure sure I'd rather you book someone famous on our show for us I know it depends who you want anybody will take once we have you then it's you screaming you again Yeah, you have an open seat here whatever you want. Yeah third mic. Oh, yeah, it would be tell me who you want Doobie loopy. Oh Doobie loopy. Oh come on you. I'm screaming. If you were a third mic this pot would be eight times bigger And we're already pretty big. So I really think I'm tuned in. I'm in Yeah, we've got Jay, Jay masquerade. Oh That's actually he said but he's like single or not. So I don't want to like Well, we'll talk we'll talk hey We're picking up what you're putting down. I am leaving it all out on the field. We will chat. I'm screaming

1:23:53We'll chat or you know, if it's on him at least know we know that that's like yeah, the type standard The bar for the bar has been set Yeah, also he's a stylist your photographer. Yeah, I'm surprised you guys haven't worked together I've asked for him on some things, but I don't think he was available. Oh you but you haven't begged yet or the client could the client could afford him Maybe not right. Yeah, I mean they can barely afford All the budget is already accounted for so I would say so You end up saying no to a lot of gigs because it's like well Do you say end up saying no to a lot of gigs because it's not it's a not a good look for you regardless of the money No because I like working and I like staying busy. So I tend to say yes But it just depends what they're doing okay like what the the project what the yeah what the idea is if it fits Because I'm like you could definitely I'm like if you want like film and like you know Yeah, time and like all this other stuff. I'm like that's just not me Was we definitely had like stylist or photographers like professionals on the show where like they do a lot of work that you will never see on their

1:24:57Instagram by design because it's they want the bag and they want the work But they're not like shouting from the rafters about ex client. I don't know how often that happens for you I'm I'm pretty happy about I just did an adidas campaign It's in the store and and and we pastings are around But I'm just waiting on the thing about working behind the scenes is you just don't receive anything So I'm just waiting to get the images Even though I took them and I Do you wait for the check to clear before you put it on your IG? No, I really until it's out. Oh, I'm like usually I usually the first person because it's something I work hard for right But if it's net 90 I wouldn't know anything about 90. Oh Are you net zero girly? I just know that I don't it's Tyrell's terms. He just knows he's never waited 90 days for anything. I don't think so Or at least I wouldn't that's good. Do you find I think I know the answer at least from my you know my outside in perspective like do you find that

1:26:02Client want to work with you because your name carries gravitas and heft with it where it's like Proceeds now that you know to Tyrell Hampton campaign or or cover shoot or something for the parties. Yes, I The it depends it really depends on the brand and all the things because some brands are bigger than me and obviously like I'm doing a service for them and sometimes it's like An exchange a two-way street. Yeah, so it really just depends on the brand and like What club swap yeah, yeah, do you look when you look in the mirror? Are you like there is a brand that is Tyrell Hampton like do you not can you acknowledge that or is that something that like you're I'm too humble or I don't want to think that way But maybe with the bike, but I with the photos. I think It's so hard to like see it or time when you can feel it a little bit A little bit. Yeah, okay. I feel like I've already photos. There is an established like I'm the guy or I am one of the guys Yes, but anything I'll okay. It's me and the co-risk Honestly, Mark is fat. Yeah, I've been shopping so period. Do you

1:27:08Does do you feel like your care or worry about the reverberations in like media with new gq editor-in-chief new vogue editor For head of content. Yeah, it's horrible. Are you like oh shit? I got to like maintain these Kind of media relationships as like as there's like tremors in the media escape No, or is that is that really bad at that which is like the the new chapter of like being adulting and following up and stuff but It's more so like At the end of the day They Know who I am. I don't know who they are like they're in terms of like I know they're familiar with me in some extent And so it just has to be the right thing like It's always like a matter of waiting for the my favorite people to hit me up When they have something that they know I could fit into their world for it. I'm not necessarily proactive in that regard Like you're okay. That's your agency's job a little bit. Yeah, true. I guess that's not your Yes, yeah, I've been I used to last year. I did a lot of like asking him like

1:28:10Maybe I'll go in for a meeting and like go say hi and like tell them I have ideas like if I have an idea For something then I'll definitely be like I have an idea for this specific house brand magazine at a thing Let's do it. Let's make it happen. So if that's how I feel then that's how Sometimes happens, but sometimes they'll hit me up and be like, what do you want to do? You know, that's why I'm like, you know Should we ever interface with Anna? I've seen her okay. I've seen her but I've never spoken to her. We taking her photos. You're scared. I have taken our photo I think a few times actually classes on yes, both. Oh really you have classes off rare I think she was she didn't throw and strike that off your phone She was talking to mocha maybe like backstage at plotter or something one year or maybe me one year And I don't think she had glasses on the door. Wow. Oh, she took them off. I did a side of respect for each other That's crazy. Wow, and you got that But see that's something that doesn't excite me you didn't turn to stone I ran away

1:29:10What happens backstage is like I'm so like Wormy that I take it and then I'm like, okay, there's another place that I have to be there's something There's so many things happening all around the room that I wanted done so quick even during an iconic moment Like one picture. Okay. I'm out of here because sometimes you know I don't want to overstate my welcome and that sometimes they're really having Deep combos and like classes were off. So yeah, so I'm like I know but things I know My camera and I know the front like I know everything what's her to make it happen? What's your camera choice? Are you a secret? Oh, it's actually one of the things people Google which I didn't know You will ask a lot and you can't you that's a trade secret. Do you develop your own film or do you use film? Okay, digital How many photos you shoot per party on average what do you say? Um It depends it really it like for a job There's there's a specific limit. Okay, so maybe like a one thousand The limit

1:30:11So there's that like a thousand selects or a thousand like I know I need a thousand in order to get them They're select 50 bangers. Yeah. Oh, that's that's an interesting shooting percentage. So yeah, so that's that's that's that But if you're just shooting for fun, maybe like 13 Thousand no, no, like 13 Yeah, okay, okay, so for client for a job, you're like just spraying and praying for like a night out with the homies You're like, oh, this is a great moment. Yeah, but sometimes I orchestrate them because thank God I know a lot of the people at the parties. So I'm like, I know I know what people want. I know what they want to see. Do you have people no shade towards? Do you have people texting be like hey Tyrell? I'm gonna be at this party. Make sure you shoot me that he does that with streaks off talking No, just with my voice. I'm screaming. Period Close mouth. There's a good fit. Hello, you if you want to pick you out of do a close quote, but don't get shot No, no one ever asked me, you know really so that's there's That's the way we're just like they respect you can tell

1:31:11In the moment when someone is ready for a photo. Oh, got you and then when someone asks me for a photo. I'm like No Can I like even a little iPhone? I'm just like you're like a DJ no request. Yeah. Oh wow. Even an iPhone I'm just like there's no because it I'm too selective and also they're too critical and I'm like you just need to ask someone else Do you like at the party or if someone's peacocking too hard? What are you talking like a just wearing like and it's Sane outfit. Yeah, they're begging for a screaming for it. I don't I don't I look for like Energy like I'm looking for the girl who's on the dance floor with okay, we can care less like that The street guy the guy the drink I check in the weather app. Yeah, I want that I want the corner like on their phone just like in their own world. I just making so I want to be like a part of their world If I'm at a fashion party on draft Kings making that on Malaysian ping pong. You're gonna shoot me Yeah, if you're like into it You have on a sick outfit and that's even better. I'm looking for the people change smoking. I'm looking for like Like where's everyone that's having fun? Oh, can I see a question about smoking? Yes. Do people

1:32:16rely on it as a crutch for like coolness factor in a photo or like Some even like an action or movement. It depends some people do change smoke sometimes. I will be like Sometimes if someone's smoking and they already lit it I'm like you need to redo it. Yeah, some kind of way. It's so romantic. I think I think maybe it's my love of like New York insects in the city and all that that sometimes a cigarette just like ads. Oh sweetness to like the vibes Here's a super dumb question about the secret camera. I want to go back ever done. Okay, so you're at a party and you're using your camera That is this proprietary one season right? So did you like the people who who ask Don't know because what I the thing is that this one person came to me at the party It's not even that it's like if you have to ask you probably can't afford it No, there's kids who come to me and been like I want to get in the industry and and all these things And I'm like I just don't think you need my camera. It should matter what the tools. Yeah, it's about who's using the tool like I'm like the new generation doesn't really understand that like you need to just look up a bunch of things and like find out

1:33:20What you're interested in the work through like Being actually obsessed with it like I'm actually obsessed with photography like I look at it I'm on tumblr 24-7 Instagram 24-7 looking at magazines all the things. So I'm like That's what I'm you should be looking at that and that's how you make better images. That's more important than the camera Yes, the camera you just yeah, it's manufactured. What's your tumblr Wang sex? I'm swimming L L no, I think I clicked on it and it was like restricted How did you find your YouTube bio bro? Oh I keep those things there for me same as like the tech talk I'm like yeah, it's more for me so when someone brings it up to me in my and real life I'm like I used all this wait what like you you're there. Yeah, it is for everyone How many cameras did you run through before you settled on your current? It was that one that was really one done my mom got it on like QVC So it really isn't even about like no the cameras your eye and your vision and your Knowledge of like it was just being there also I can see a young kid thinking it would be a shortcut though

1:34:21Like okay, if I just got the right camera. I could be Tyrell which is like yeah Not the worst way to dream, but maybe dare to dream a little bigger darling I mean to have have fun. I like that's that's mine was obviously like by accident like My mom got the camera. I was like you would do AC And I know it's like well, it's mine. Yeah, and then it turned into it. Oh she got it for herself. It wasn't a gift for you No, no, yeah And I took it to college and then took it to the club tapping down to What is it down down or whatever never never and all those places and then Yeah, and that's how you ended up on throwing fits. Yeah literally. What do you like spend your harder and money on? Chanel bags. That's it that and probably My rent. Yeah, food I guess no, not are you like eating out every night? Mm-hmm. Not a real eater. You cook I do cook, but not every night. I'm like the my money is mainly spent on My bags and like when I go to L.A. to like hang out and like experience and stuff. They cave. Yeah

1:35:24When you travel are you Stay or are you staying at sunset tower or are you like crouching on a couch? No, she's a sunset. Oh, damn Well, you said you painted it. Why I just don't I wouldn't stay there. Okay. You want to hang there Yeah, I would hang the martini there, but there I love like the the restaurant Obviously it's hard to get a reservation there But like the live music and things like that like the ambiance is great I wouldn't stay there because I don't want to stay in a dorm where I see everyone that I know sure and it's on sunset So yeah, yeah, but when I'm in L.A. I usually I'm at this this same hotel. So she's back is what you spend your money on Should no bags and then experiences traveling was there dumb purchase you made recently? Oh, I'm screaming I What did I do? I mean, I'm obsessed with ties right now. Oh, that's a lot. What do we what do we tie? Like ties no, but what are like L ties vintage no sailor wrong. Okay Contemporary. Yeah So every time I I just keep going in there and and being like do you have this specific tie like do you have like a solid color

1:36:28Then like no, we have like this. I mean this and then going to like Like Prada and all these places just to find like a nice tie like I looking for a specific Usually a specific tie to go with an outfit that I want. Oh, that's usually what you're getting suited and booted These days or is it a casual tie? I like to I do want to start wearing suits more like in the summer It's definitely going to be like hmm suit jacket opened up. Oh, I'm but insured like Where you get where you think you shoot from I get them from James Veloria on a slave vintage. Yeah, but I love like I do love a Saint Laurent suit. I just think the baggie fit. Yeah, it's just amazing But I buy the different pieces like I have like Bodie um suit jackets and then I'll have like The row suit pants mix in fashion and like I'll but then I'll go to like what is it? I love APC and they have really nice trousers And I'll do that with like a nice button up. I'm just are you gonna get the Saint Laurent thigh hyboots? No, cuz I'm sure oh They would like they would make you look stumpy. Go above the knees. Maybe they go to the waist

1:37:30I'm not but I'm in my waiter's guard vibes for like that type of like Like suiting like I love that, but just I'm not that tall because you want to wear it not cuz you have to or something Yeah, you were you were one of that. I think the uh Forgers of like the shirt tie jacket which now is like a fucking like straight guy like you know what I It's like oh take talk explore page. Yeah, take talk Yeah, it's like a bravo summer house type fit, but like you were you were kind of early on that The bravo fit or the shirt tie like leather jacket. Yeah, I just love I don't know really say we're on ties They're all I have only Saint Laurent ties. Wow Very particular because they make the material. It's very specific. It's like a shiny, but it's not like Too shiny like the nylon fodder got you so I really like that, but it's it became this romantic thing because On the bike I knew that I look I look like a schoolboy. Oh god Like I look like someone who is better not be wearing any Tom Brown you look like a fucking little

1:38:30British lad But shout out to my lever King. Yeah, but you look like a berries and cream asshole the fucker though In a Tom Brown shorts. It might actually just fit him like normal not no I just like plain colors like I don't know if I could do this the piping and stride and all that So that's that's why but I knew that I didn't know the video will go those biking videos will go viral But I knew that I was trying to put on a Performance with the tie right in the roses and my khakis and my my So and now I'm like now we're going for him fitting. Okay, you know khaki switching it up. Yeah Yeah evolving we have to have to do good. Do people ever see you? I mean you mentioned the kids on the bridge But if you're ever biking just cuz you get to get somewhere people like oh my god do the thing and your life I'm biking here. I bike really fast. So no Yeah, you ever thought about getting your own e-bike or does it have to be a city bike for the I like the aesthetic. No, I like to dock it and leave it. Oh, I don't want to be responsible for this fucking

1:39:34But yeah, lock it up all that shit. Yeah, I cannot because friends have told me that the seats have been stolen They stole like random parts of it. I'm like if the batteries always go. Yeah, I'm like if y'all do this I'm not I'm just I'm gonna leave it there. Right. Is there anything you refuse to spend a lot of money on? Um No, who breaks out really you don't cheap you're not cheap to get on anything No, I I'm a fan of luxury Lock it to the car. What's the most like luxurious ridiculous thing you've done of late? Um Probably ask him my agent to get me a driver for cuz I had a bunch of random events But I only for fashion week New York fashion week like I was like I just want a driver to like keep Pretty normal and the thing but I would do normally just Normally, I like the bike like if it was It's really nice out right now like I would just be like put everything in the book bag Yeah, do my thing and get to where I'm going and be their speedy Maybe that's the schoolboy thing is cuz you have a backpack on that awesome You're like they got a carry stuff. Yeah, you're like bill cutting him, but instead of his bike, it's a city bike

1:40:36Hey, you got to get to work real cutting him literally if I could make a bike with the compartment Big enough for that because sometimes I get on the the bridge on the train that's it sucks It's it's a lot. That's the one thing I should DM them about that. That's one thing Paris line bikes have over Yes But you can't drive the line bikes in Beverly Hills, which is so annoying Which is I'm like I would want to just bike around Beverly Hills and like live in my fantasy But you cannot bike then the radius. Oh, they like turn it off. Yeah, and I was like this is so yeah They don't want they don't want any bikers and they're literally keeping yeah Also the the web where you can have your phone here on the line bikes is how you do I don't trust it If I use the sticky thing like the October buddy. Yeah, you trust that the ones in Paris. You should trust. Yeah, they would They would get hold it. Yeah, I get I'm a germaphobe So I feel like if I put in there, I'm gonna like you to sanitize my phone and like do probably I sanitize the bikes before I get on Wow like wipe down like to see in the market just a handlebar like Naomi Campbell flying business

1:41:40Like I I'm really especially I'm like I'm about to dig my hands and like rip tight. Yeah, so yeah No, I get whatever I like here. It's a immediate and wash um Tyrell thank you coming on to the old great. You said it was a dream of yours dream. This was a dream. I'm talking about He not not dream achieved. Yes. Ten out of 10 thanks for any is there any constructive criticism? You would like to give us before you get you out of here um Nora Or perfect. Can we come to your next party? You're definitely gonna be the coolest ones. Are you gonna be on draft Kings? Are you gonna be on draft King? I know. I don't know. There's no pop rats. Yeah, I don't I don't gamble because I've an addictive personality, but I will be I could be in the corner and be a weirdo in my own world If that's what it takes. Okay, you know, I did say uh Actually, we walked This fun. You'll appreciate this. We're walking to the echos a lot of show and we got steamy. No, I'm fair I didn't see you. I didn't see you guys. Are you shooting or are you just ships past good night? I was just attending It was a it was a big beautiful But we great room we walk out and it's nighttime and we're everyone's like snapping our photo. Yeah

1:42:44Like you were like I'm Rihanna Because that's how I thought I was like oh shit. This house. This is how she feels flashing lights It's just insane. Yeah, well you continue like it's done and then you're like I'm going to I'm blind I'm literally blind and then the walk away the walk of shame So sad after okay, we're done with you. Oh, you're just like because you peeked to now. It's yeah The road you're like who are you? You're like can't see shit. There's guys trying to sell you fucking fake air pods literally. Yeah, go off them But that one but that one shining moment Yeah, it's boom. Okay, so besides wearing sunglasses to get photographed No constructor criticism. I'll take a constructive. Perfect 10 out of 10. Where can the kids fall you on social media? Is there anything you'd like to plug? Tyrone Hampton That's that's it show it to you on YouTube Antic talk like sex on tumblr. Yeah, let's go. Where do you prefer people fall you on TikTok or IG It depends on what you're looking for I say adults should follow me on on Instagram

1:43:46So that you know, we could start business We're investing you know stocks and all the things All the kids were on take talk and we're having fun and if you want to laugh there you go There you go, but if you're serious and you're like the dichotomy of man It's a beautiful thing to see and stay tuned for a exhibition this fall. Yes, which is right around the corner It really it's scary. It's happening. It's all happening. It's gonna be really good though. It's all happening You guys are gonna be there. It's gonna be absolutely Tyrone. Thank you. Thanks plug into the link podcast and our chefs take us out I You guys are gonna be there. It's gonna be absolutely Tyrone. Thank you. Thanks plug into the link podcast and our chef. Take us out. Take us out.