TJG: RHOC S20 E10!

0:00Welcome back to Two Judgy Girls. This is Mary from the Bay. And it's Courtney from LA. We made it to the end of the week. Guys, we didn't. Everyone just feels like people need a little encouragement right now. We did it you guys. It felt like a long week for a short week on Wednesday. It's like, oh, we're already on Wednesday, we're already half way. But then Thursday and Friday dragged. They don't call it WTF for the end of the week for nothing. Oh, I've never heard that one. Oh, yeah, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. What the fuck? That's silly. That's silly. All right. Well, Mary, it's that time of the week again. And you won last week. You won the poll.

1:05I think we both won though because to be fair, I did the entire cast where then you plused into going more deep into Tamara. I'd like to share the title with you. Wow. Oh, I know. I'm not a sore winner. Here we go, then, Mary. It is your turn this week to plead your case. I am judging Ariana the most this week. Well, she secretly making out with Charlie the whole time. Did we get set up? Did Charlie A.K. Larry David write the finale? Is he your curb? Your enthusiasm? Mastermind. And we all got played. My poor baby Liam. He just wants to fight fire, ski, and be an actor. He didn't know the show was going to be about getting too timed when he signed up. He literally looked like he turned into a monster in the final episode after he got hit by a lemon.

2:08I know this completely goes against everything I said the other week. I trusted Ariana though. She's a Christian woman. I feel betrayed. How did this happen? I have to judge Ariana the most this week and not even for kissing Charlie, but for pretending like she didn't multiple times this season and that finale kiss because I had to look away at her. My eyes. Now I do think that you want to watch the after show. I'll just tell you so you don't have to watch it. I didn't know they do an after show for finale because it goes into reunion. I didn't know that. I watched it this morning and Charlie somewhat confirms that Ariana wanted more to be exclusive with Charlie and Charlie said no and that he was entertaining other women as well. Still doesn't change my case. He manipulated her through Jesus.

3:11I do believe that. I do believe that. Do you? Yeah. But I do still think that she was like secretly hugging up with him the whole season. I don't think the whole season, but I don't think that was the first time they had kissed. Exactly. Yeah. Courtney, please, plead your case. Your honor. This week I'm judging Heather Gaye who showed up to the Ultimate Girls trip, apparently auditioning for the role Lisa Barlow had already received. As Lisa is reflecting on the past season saying Heather has been coming after her for six months. Heather immediately fires back how about six years? Oh, so we agree. Thank you for your 480 and slip. Your witness may step down. Then you're trying to ruffle Lisa's feathers off camera and flitting around the room trying to make every housewife your new BFF like it's Bravo rush week. While the jealousy that Lisa got this Salt Lake invite instead of you is practically another cast member. And somehow you get to live

4:14Mary's dream of smoking a sig with Luan and you can't even ask it correctly. Heather, respect the sacred ceremony. Then you're getting to drunk to activate it. Lay off the booze, Heather. And knowing we have another season of you going after Lisa potentially coming our way, not this again. Leave baby gorgeous alone. And perhaps the most unforgivable offense of it all. You went as Britney Spears and couldn't even dress like Britney Spears correctly. Heather, you wanted to prove they invited the wrong Salt Lake City housewife, but unfortunately I think you proved they got it exactly right. Case closed. The living out Mary's dream really thought spoke to me. She did though. She did and she couldn't even ash the cigarette correctly. At least try to look cool, Heather. Come on. Mary has wanted this for years. Okay. And then Heather gets it and she's

5:15got a broken sig with three inches of ash. It's not fair. I thought of you. You did. So anyway, plead your case this week. Who are you judging more? Ariana of Next Gen or Heather gay from Ultimate Girls trip? It's a tough decision. It truly is. And at the at the bottom of it all is Jesus. Right. Oh, man. And the girls were on Watch What Happens Live. They had Ariana, Fava and Gea on Watch What Happens Live. And it was funny because Andy, he has the same prediction as me about Joe Chudeis coming back because of Trump. So we'll see what happens. She's still working on it. Other little tidbits from Watch What Happens Live. Ariana is so disgusted how Charlie talked about her on the show. They brought up with Ava too. I Ava really did a 180 for me this season in the beginning. I was like, oh, no. And then she started to slowly integrate more into the group. She kind of found her footing and I've really enjoyed her. They

6:17brought up Kyle Cook. She said, I've hung out with all the cast. The Kyle Cook question was funny because she was like, well, if I was trying to be on Summer House, yeah, but I'm not trying to be on Summer House. I was like, that's a good point. I wanted to be like, this should be the number one Bravo show right now. Next gen. Our children are killing it. And it's so good to see your kids succeed. And it makes me think about Vanderpump roles. What is happening with that? Sounds like nothing. The rumor was that they were picking up in October. But I think we're getting a spin off in the Vegas. And I think it might be done so. Or they pursued the next gen LA thing. That could kind of be a thorough placement. That's a good point. From Vanderpump roles, if you were going to maybe put them somewhere else, I want to see more Shane Davis, of course. Yeah, I think Natalie. Yeah. So throw them on next gen. Sir is a dying place. Tom Tom is being sold. You go to Sir and you're

7:19like, oh my god, is this a funeral home? That's going to be going under real soon, right? And so I wonder if it's just not worth it anymore. The appeal that Vanderpump rules had with Sir, I think they were hoping for a resurgence. And I do think that the move was not to do Sir and it would have been Tom Tom to have the next iteration of. I just think that Sir in its heyday, it was packed. Right. But it's just it's not now. And I think that the scandal, unfortunately for Lisa, really ruined the reputation of. And I wonder how something about her does. I feel like it's still busy. Okay. No idea. I still haven't gone. They think we forget. And not that I don't want to support. I do. Maybe I need to go get a sandwich today. You should do a review. Yeah. Well, it's so hot. It's nothing like a cold turkey sandole on a hot day. That sounds great. But then it's like leaving the house. No, you get a door dashed. They don't door dash. No, they do now. They do. I believe so. Oh, I don't know this. I don't know. I don't live in L.A.

8:27You know where they don't door dash it to those San Francisco. You can't. No one will drive eight hours up to deliver the valley sandwich. Which feels rude. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. Right. Everything has price. Court me. The next time she visits me flies up with a something about her sandwich. We do a review. I got this yesterday. It wasn't open because the flight was so early. So this is a crusty sandwich from yesterday. Just let's take a break and then let's come back with this episode of Orange County. Do you guys? My hand is on my head. It's so bad. It's so bad. What are we doing? And every single episode is a juxtaposition of two different things. So we have one girls trip in La Quinta with Vicki Shannon Emily and Jen going to Vicki's house and then the other trip is Tamra Heather Carmella and Gina and Lost Alivos.

9:32So vain. I don't know if you remember when Vanderpump rules went there and brings like I don't know what it's called. So vain. And then Jackson. Of course you guys would go to some place called So vain. And I'm like, Oh, open the schools. I've always wanted to go to So vain. I still have not gone. I've like passed through, but I haven't actually enjoyed a glass of wine there. Really? That's unfortunate. Okay. When you come down next drive, something about her get the sando, then keep going and stop in solving. Yeah. It's very cute. Very quaint. Yes. It looks adorable. What trip would you rather have been on? So vain. Obviously. Oh my god. Now to be fair, last week I did say take us to Vicki's house. Take us out where we're going to run into Don Gumbel said and obviously we're not going to be going out. That's not going to be happening this week. But I think the problem is too is that this group just doesn't get along and they're all looking to

10:34have a gacha moment for someone in the group. And it's just playing pointing the finger as opposed to having genuine connections and genuine fun. And it's frustrating to watch and when you put them in even smaller groups, it's more apparent. I also think like Vicki has this image of herself. Like she was the whoopit up girl and she's almost like a good time girl. But I think she's completely changed and that is not her personality anymore. Like she slowed down a ton. And that's fine. You know, she doesn't want to be the whoopit up girl. She wants to be the whoopit up girl, but she's Debbie Downer. Her being like, come on, huckers, get in my car. And I was like, where's this giant truck coming from? Does Vicki own that truck? Or is it Mike's? I was wondering that too because Carmella was also driving a giant truck, which actually feels more apt for her because it's like the monster energy drink. Yes. This is very Carmella. But they're both driving these big trucks.

11:36And I think it is from production because when Carmella gets pulled over, when Tamer makes a joke, is this even your car? I think they gave them a car with expired registration. Oh, and they have a TikTok going around of the girls dancing around the CHP that pulled them over. And you can never get out the CHP tickets. They're much harder to get out of than a regular police officer. Believe me. I have tried. Imagine being like, hi, we're filming a TV show. Do you think we could run around your car? No, they're running around him. Oh, just him standing there. Yes, they're dancing around him. And what kind of dancing? They're just like running around a circle kind of dancing around him. Okay. So I just think that those are production cars because I'm thinking that they need to put cameras in and so that they have to have like the big back part of it. Oh, okay. Get all the angles of everyone. I was just shocked to see Vicki driving this giant truck

12:39personally. I completely agree. The interesting thing about Vicki is she's learned how to move on with her life in a way. Like obviously, she's always connected to Bravo. And I think she will always be pissed that she was fired. And so when she was offered this orange, I think she was like, okay, here's my time for redemption. But the problem is is that her life had resumed as quote unquote normal. She was dating a normal man who didn't know Vicki on camera. And now she has to change her life around. And so she's trying to preserve this quote unquote normal life she has without succumbing to being a housewife again. And so she wants the rules to not change. And she wants everything to go her way. And it's like you said the game has changed. It doesn't work like that. You don't have the power to have such control over everything that's happening. And it's actually making you look worse. I'm also curious because obviously she's getting a ton of backlash. So at this

13:40point in real life, in real time, does she want to continue with the show if there is even a season 21 or is she really going to leave on her own accord? What is the future for Vicki gumbels in here? Because obviously she doesn't fit anymore. But then I weirdly felt bad for her at the end of the episode. And I was like, what is going on here? Well, that's the problem with this season. Is Vicki is miserable enough? If you give her enough rope, she'll do everything herself. You know, like you don't need to come after her to try to have a storyline to point the finger to get people talking. Vicki is so miserable. She is doing this all herself. So when you start to come after her and you're going after her relationship and you're doing all of this, she's shutting down. And it's actually, I think it's making them all look worse, especially because Jen has been trying to dig. Now the low hanging fruit, that was mean. And I know it's mean because I said it last week.

14:42She's low hanging fruit for Vicki. I said this way she went after her. So I do recognize that. Okay. But at the same time, it's like you guys wanted to make her snap. She's the snap regardless. Just give her time. Right. Well, at the beginning of the episode, like you said, she's hanging herself. She says in her confessional, I like Jen being pretty in sitting there and not being mean. It's like, whoa, that is crazy to say out loud. Who do you think you are? And she said so many things, even like she's totally like onto Carmella. Does Carmella even have anything in her pantry? Where are her rugs? Where are her pictures? Where are the TVs? I think she is onto something there. Oh, 100% Danny was at the other home. I think when she said Danny, show me the pantry. He was back in the ranch. She had a pay house. Okay. Yeah. The pantry was the different house. She's like, see, we live here, but they don't know that she's at the other house where she has. Right. It's also so crazy because like you can just google this

15:48shit. Yeah. Vicki being miserable is her own due. You guys don't need to do anything to perpetuate that. She is going to be the curmudgeon. She is going to be the one that when you say, oh, that's so Vicki, it is so Vicki. So let it happen. She is failing miserably and we're seeing her twice. She's doing the same thing she's doing on ultimate girlship over here requesting the quiet game. How often is she playing the quiet daily? And let's talk about her relationship with Mike, Michael, because why does he keep showing up? You know, we're having a text conversation like, what's going on? He showed up in Vegas. He's here in Palm Springs. Is it because she wants him there? Or do you think he's going there? Once was like a coincidence to me, like, oh, maybe he was in Vegas, whatever. But now twice, I got questions. I have a ton of questions. He was almost my person I wanted to judge the most this week because I'm genuinely confused because we find out that he ends up in Vegas, which is very strange. That is a completely all girls trip. He had to fly out there.

16:56Okay, the Lakinta thing is a little bit different. That is his home too. I think they might have bought the house together. But also, if Mike is going to be a part of this, go the Harry Hamlin route. Make a bowl of an A's like, you can go and barbecue for the girls and then just like retreat to the room. But it was very much like Mike's going to be here, but he can't be in the house. And we are going to send him out to game. He doesn't want to film, but he lives here. And it's like, you can't have that. It was very, very, very strange. Did you wonder where he was to, by the way, because he was two hours away, two hours away, orange County? Was he two hours closer to Arizona? And what does he do for a job? Do we know? He's a developer. Oh, duh. Okay. Yeah. So was he developing an orange County? Where was he two hours away? Because was he also two hours away? He could have gone to Orange County. I can't figure out if it's Vicki or Michael. I'm so confused too. Because as Vicki, like, I want backup. I want you to be there just in case something happens. And I want to get out of this.

18:01I'm not sure. Or is it that he is a little bit trolling and wants to be a part of it? I did talk to him at the Orange County Party. And he did not feel like he wanted to be a part of it. Or he was definitely like, I'll show up for Vicki, but he seems like a normie. If you ask me, he wasn't super chatty by any means. He was just kind of keeping himself there. I think I went up to him and was like, you don't know what you're getting into. Mary! It's true. It wasn't a Bravo world, not Victoria Gumbelson. Of course. About the Bravo world. These fans are like nothing you've ever seen before. They will find your dirty laundry, okay? And they will hang it out to dry. And not even clean it. Also think that Vicki is so hell-bent on showing a healthy relationship. Last time we saw her, it was with Steve Lodge. They had this pretend engagement. It failed spectacularly. I think he was running for Congress or Senate and didn't get it. She just has not had a good

19:03track record on this show with men. So I'm like, is she trying to showcase a healthy relationship? Mike lives here. Michael will be here. But like you said, if that's the case, why isn't he making the pizzas? Or is he like, I don't want to come, Vicki? I don't want to be. You guys are filming there for one night. It's really hard to figure out who is leading the charge on him appearing. Right. And it feels like he really wants her to take a step back from work. And she's just working more and more and more. And that is totally like a part of her identity being the workhorse. You know, emailing in the car, all this shit. I really do think she is a workaholic. And he's like, I want to live life. I want to travel. I want to retire. So then at the same time, did she kind of make an agreement with him saying like, okay, I will do this, but it's not going to change how we hang out or anything like that. Is she like, no, I'm only going to film for this one day here. And then the next day we'll go out and golf. She's trying to pack it all in or

20:04something. I don't know. Is there contention between them because when she was offered that orange, remember, she said, I didn't know this was coming. So it's a discussion she said yes to without consulting her partner. Is there a drama behind that where he's like, what the what? You signed on to Ultimate Girls Trip already. What do you mean now you're doing a season of this show? I could see that being a pretty big deal of like, what do you mean you're going back in the spotlight? We said two weeks. Okay, whatever. There'll be a couple of months of press. It is what it is. Now you're doing this show. It seems like there is a lot going on. And I also feel like she's really mean with her words to him too. Obviously, we see her like being mean to the women. But even when she was talking about him and being a fire aunt, right. Well, I do think there is truth about this engagement ring. There has to be. There has to be. And Emily is essentially taunting her on the car right down about the proposal I felt like. And it's either that he has

21:06the ring and is dangling it over her head or he actually gave it to her and asked for it back. There is some truth to that because they're really all talking about that. So I feel like they know something. You might be on to something because the way that Shannon was also defending Vicki in the car. She's like, well, Tamar, she has a theory. She has a theory where she pulled that theory from. And it was like, is it that the lady doth protest too much sort of saying, like, let me back my friend up. And then when Mike shows up at the house, Vicki's like, we're not ready to get married. Tell him we're not ready to get married. We don't need to be married. We're just like, let him know. We don't have to be married, right? Right? Right. Right. Right. Okay. And then when Mike came back and Shannon sees him coming back, it was like when the dad comes home and like, you know, you've done something bad and you're going to get in trouble, that was that moment. I'm like, they're 60. Like, it was weird because I remember Shannon went and lived with Vicki and Mike when she got the DUI. So she has a really close relationship

22:07with the two of them. So I feel like she knows a lot of thing. And like, I just thought she's like, knows him really well. I was like, he's going to be so mad you guys. We have to figure this out. Get the ubers go. There's no way they're going to fucking go. The best part was when Vicki walked out to production. I was like, I'm done. Like, also, it's so crazy too because it wasn't that big of a fight or anything. But it was like, the girls are, I would call this bullying. I hate that word. But this is your pick an honor for sure. But that's what bullying is like a constant thing over and over again doing the same exact thing. And Vicki like set her boundary. And she doesn't in the grossest, meanest, rudest way. But she asked them multiple times to not talk about it anymore. I'm done. I mean, then she throws in things like, you're at my house. You have to respect me. Agree with that though. And it doesn't follow the housewife handbook. But I do agree when she's like, if I'm going to ask you to stop and stop it, okay? And they obviously

23:12are like, Oh, great. We're putting our pressure cooker. We're going to get something out of this because they're all performing to create this season. Like, we've got to get something. But I feel like Vicki is somewhat right in that. I'm like, I asked you to stop now. Yeah. I said sorry to Jen. I shouldn't have said low hanging fruit. Okay. That was rude. Even though we know Vicki's apologies don't mean anything. So if you want a sincere apology, like Lisa Barlow is going to give when she's ready, then you need to sit and wait for it. But her apologies don't mean shit. But she said enough. And at this point, I think that there is something more to the fact that Vicki is filming and he does not like that where she's like, we can't talk about him because that's one of our rules of me coming back is not to talk about our relationship. And I'm trying to integrate him as much as I can and still like respecting his boundary. Yeah. It would almost be better if she actually set all that out loud and broke the fourth wall more because she's just like, leave Mike alone. Okay. Jesus, you guys stop poking the bear. Leave me alone. And then when she couldn't get up out of the hot tub.

24:16And please help me my knee. I can't get out. But she's trying to be the peacekeeper because she and I know it was like we're playing the housewife game. But I'm like, but you guys took it too far. And also out of all the people on this cast, Vicki is the least close to Emily and Jen. Yes. Oh, these parrots were like funny, to be honest. You had to break up the Gina Emily pairing. Yeah. Yeah. You had to break Carmella and Heather together so you could confront that. And then you have to separate Tamara, Vicki and Shannon. And so then it's like wherever the chips may fall. Totally. Emily knows exactly what she's doing. And like you said, she was trying to ignite Vicki. And then she's just like, Vicki, you basically told us to shut up. We're just trying to have a conversation with you. But it's like, you're just fucking dragging this out. And it feels like a Beverly Hills thing like at Lucy, Lucy Apple, juicy. And it's so boring to watch. But it did get

25:16good at the end because Vicki just being like, no, I'm done. I'm taking my mic off. I'm going to go read my Bible. Mike's going to be pissed. You guys should leave. I don't care how you get out of here. Uber back. What do you think's going to happen? I think they should go. Honestly, check into the Lakinta in down the street. Then the three of them should go whoop it up. They should go to the nest. Yeah. Exactly. What you just said makes so much sense to is like last week you guys came for her at the picnic. And so now, and this is part of my plea, my case last week too, is like, so now you have to talk about it again and have a conversation again. It's like, it's over. It's done with Vicki makes a point. I said, sorry, two hours ago. Now you're bringing it up again. And I think what was crazy too is Vicki obviously locked the door to the bedroom. That's why Mike was standing out there for a minute because he had to be like, Vicki, it's me, Mike. And I'm like, did she text him to come home? Did he just happen to come home? What is the timeline on all of this? Also, what time is it? It's so dark. By the time they started making the pizza, as I was like, when we were

26:17in the jacuzzi, I thought we were in jacuzzi before bed. I thought it was like 9 p.m. Right. You could tell like, Vicki, you just can't let go anymore. She didn't seem like she was having fun at golf. She's like, working on the way to golf. I feel bad for the girls in the back. I will say Shannon asking to use someone's bathroom. That's something I would do. So Shannon, the best part too is when she goes and does it. They have this like little mini gate, maybe for like dogs to not get out, small dogs. And Shannon opens it and walks through. And then on the way back, she goes, oh, I can just step right over it. Yeah, Shannon, the gate wasn't for you. And I just was laughing to like these people being like, they're filming some show. So all of the neighbors are out in their patios, watching them film at the driving range. And I thought Shannon was so cute. She brought, and this is why Shannon, you need to budget your money better. Also, Mary, the after show started last week. And she confirmed she takes Uber blocks everywhere because she wants a professional driver because she wants to feel safe. Okay. Well, there you go. I feel like that answered a question for us.

27:20And then I went, that she's bad at managing money, even Jen or my Jen, class houses and all that. But I thought she was okay. She brought monograms, PJs for everyone that had their name on it. She made the whoop it up classic hats again, save your money. But these are cute. And yeah, Vicki just, she can't unwind. She's so concerned about her image that she's ruining her own image. She's so concerned that she's going to mess up her relationship, that she's going to mess up the relationship. She is living a self-fulfilling prophecy every day she films this show. I know I weirdly have empathy for her this week. It's crazy. It's wild. Talk about flip-flopping. I also just have to comment, I can't stand when adults say the word potty. I thought talking to a child. Exactly. I got to go potty. My gosh, I hate it so much. Even when I was in kindergarten teaching, I never said the word potty. By that time you should be calling it the bathroom. Women in their 60s should not be calling it the

28:23potty. Say I have to go the bathroom. I got to go potty. I hate that word. I might pee pee my pants. It's just so much for you. It's too much for you. Let's take a break and come back with solving. So we go to solving and we have to ride these bicycles built for two so that we can have Tamara and Gina talk about Heather and Carmella who are talking about what Heather said so that then Gina and Tamara can bring up what was said so that then we can all have a circle jerk and try to come after Heather. It's exhausting. I also love to that Heather's like I'm not fucking driving to Orange County to drive back through LA. You guys can pick me up at my LA apartment. Don't worry. I'll get air one for everyone. I know. I'm spending $150 and then they're talking shit that she bought them snacks because she called Carmella trash. You're like you ungrateful little bitches. Heather is like the best friend you could ever have. She's always going to think about you.

29:27She's always going to provide snacks. She's going to have fun little elements, champagne wherever she goes. She is the ultimate friend and then they just yeah fucking trash her for a smoothie. Come on. Those are 20 bucks each. She probably got you the Haley Bieber smoothie too. Okay. That shit is delicious. It's like a thousand calories but it is so good. How dare you guys talk shit for her feeding you on the car ride. And when she was like oh my god thank you for picking me up there. Yeah I was 20 minutes out of the way. Also like Carmella is such a cool girl. I love her so much. The thrill she got out of getting pulled over and her teasing. She's like hey girls. I don't even have a license. Yeah like she doesn't give a fuck. I love her so much. I also love that the whole fight is centered around Carmella and Carmella is like I don't even care. As if she's not there. Yeah but I just keep on thinking and it was Katie Genella that said this and it is about how

30:33Gina and Emily say you have to pay a ping pong. We're going to start a fight. You bring it back. We ping pong it and come to a resolution. And that's exactly what they've been doing this entire season. And I'm so tired of it because it's dumb shit that they're getting upset about. It's like Heather literally confronted the issue. She said I'm sorry I said it and as Heather said and we said this last week too don't pretend you girls weren't in on the conversation either and telling Heather don't say that you guys are playing too. And Heather even said the things they were saying were atrocious but I'm not going to repeat that. And I'm like well Heather I see what you're doing. At the reunion you will which exactly a good time to do it. Exactly. You girls are just as bad but the things that you're trying to come at Heather for were something she said off camera which is annoying for us. We don't want to see conversations about what was set off camera. Also Gina I would want to retaliate against you and not use you as a real estate agent. If you

31:33told Emily I called this woman trashy and then it comes back to the wood. Why would I want to do business with you if you do that kind of business behind my back. Also if you're going to bring up things from a couple of years ago when you became a real estate agent and then that rumor that Tamrest started and now you're going to hold that against me because someone told me that like fuck off. Gina has lost me. It's just fresh right because Gina you're making a mountain out of a molehill. Okay. Heather was saying that too. It's a fucking rental Gina. Also I'm like okay poor Carmella like let's not put Carmella down for helping you with a rental because that's still nice of her. But we know this is like fake basically. So shut up Gina you're not offended. And you know what Gina should have done if she was actually really interested. Gina should have brought some fucking listings with her and then like hey Heather I know you didn't pick me and you picked Carmella but I want to show you the places that I have found that could be interesting for Max. Instead of trying to put Heather down you can providing her some really good opportunities that then all

32:35the sudden she could be like wow Gina that was really kind of sorry I didn't think about you but you know why she didn't because she doesn't have experience in San Diego like Carmella does. Because Carmella lives in San Diego and not Corona, don't mar. I know. And then Gina's just like I mean Heather are you just like fake as buck that was a rehearsal line. It was so lame. Also when they were like Heather you need to quiet down everyone at the restaurant's looking at us and then at the end they're screeching like banshee's all of them. As they're face timing Danny who's moved houses to show the actual pantry that's filmed. We also never talked about Carmella's gifts last week. So Carmella Carmella gave Vicki a wallet and a head wrap and then she gave Shannon the Dior bag because she liked Shannon more and it just felt right. Also when they're like well Carmella you really made it clear who you like it's like she didn't have to do that with the

33:35purse. Vicki's been a cunt the whole entire time. This show should be changed to the real house size of orange cunti. Because they all are it's like they're all miserable everyone is miserable on this cast. I'd say except for Carmella and Heather for the most part you guys are grasping at straws to start shit and it's not working and it's actually pathetic. And when you guys are saying oh well Gina told me this and Emily told me this all it's making me think is okay so you guys are conspiring behind the scenes. I'm not fallen for this shit. I'm not going to give you what you want. You know what Heather drink your espresso martinis and middle fingers up to the sky. Fuck these bitches. Excuse our language it's Friday though. I also feel like Gina and Emily are making themselves look bad and it's interesting because Tamara is obviously on their sides right now but she will flip off and I'm so curious what she will do at the reunion because she is in the comments. Well Heather

34:38and her together on the after show so that should tell you. There you go. There you go. Yeah so if you were wondering that's what's happening is Heather and Tamara so she's already flipped. Okay there you go. So but we'll be quite funny to see the rest of them try to scramble because also I would say every single person on this cast right now all of them need to be working for their jobs because right now I would be putting this show on pause for a very long time and then I would be considering who I really want to keep. I would say the most with job security right now truthfully Tamara Heather and Carmella. I'd agree with that too. Shannon closely but I think those are the three that are the ones that can do it Shannon and a close fourth. It's almost like Shannon would have to get a boyfriend and be dating someone to like create a more of a storyline for herself at this point. Sad Shannon we don't need to see her sad. No. She tried though she tried to see the guy again she made

35:39out with this in the Uber and he was on a date with a 30 year old and that is Orange County for you. I know. I'm like that is top. I can't even get a date with those men because I'm too old. Courtney you look 28 you should be fine. I appreciate that but the internal organs of mine are feeling their age. They are feeling it. Shannon I get it girl. Me and Shannon need to meet up. We need to go to the Q Dub together. I'd love to see it. Okay that's my make a wish. Yours is smoke a sig with Lou minus to go to the Q Dub with Shannon. I don't think that'd be that hard for you. I don't think it'd be hard to smoke a sig with Lou and yet it hasn't happened yet. I know. I know because everything's always inside. Sure and you have to be like Heather Gay and follow her around in order to get her to go outside. Yeah yeah and it's like living in the shadow. No. Not if someone else is dream just you have to be Lee shadow.

36:42I also thought it was funny in the beginning of the episode where they go to Carmella's Quotin Quot House. Where she gets stuck in the grate which hey RIP Brin Whitfield not that she's dead just she's not on the show anymore. Also you guys watch New York. It was amazing. Yeah I agree. But then when they're like supposed to leave at 11 and Carmella's like I have to curl my hair still and you can see Tamra she's just starting to I want to be on time and I said oh god imagine her on Ultimate Girl's trip. Right right no Carmella just drive it just drive yeah your hair looks great. Take your insulin she did it right through her shirt. I didn't even notice that she had a long sleeve plaid shirt on and then she'd done it right through and I was like that is the sticking of a pro. Gosh I mean she's doing it daily it's intense. Oh I know I really like Carmella. At the same time I'm like do we just do real housewives of Rancho Santa Fe and base it around Carmella and

37:43put Oceana long pause. It's smart direction. Katie lived in San Diego too so we're fishing for outside the bubble. Right we're going outside of the gates. But do you miss Katie? I liked Katie. I think it would be really hard for her to come back because I don't think that these women are forgiving enough to let it happen. So at this point like no she didn't leave on good terms with the girls and I also think for her own like I don't think that she should have to deal with Emily again. Yeah so do you miss her? Not at all no it's so easy for me to forget people when they're not in front of my faces. I agree housewives are replaceable unfortunately it's sometimes I think you might feel like a big power player leaves for a minute. Right there's always circumstances. Yeah with solving this is obviously the trip I want to be on but who would you choose? Okay you have to choose on the cast. Three other people to go with you to I'm going to give you four. Who are you choosing to go either to solving or Vicki? So you have to choose one of the locations which for housewives

38:47are you choosing? I'm going to go to solving and I'm going to go with Heather, Shannon, Carmella, and I'll be the fourth. Do you get one more? I don't want anyone else. Okay those are my choices but I'm going to add Tamra in. Okay fun. Tammy Sue. That's the way to go. I think they're also going for more than one night. Vicki she's like an energy vampire and so I don't want that. Then it makes you think. Does Vicki go out and say okay cameras cut because the women aren't even actually staying there anyways and they were already going to a hotel and she's like okay cameras down. Oh no she's not a good enough of an actress to snap like that because Emily when they were getting out before they were doing the pizzas Shannon also be like I love this pizza sauce I bought this like Shannon not helping. She had trying guys. This is so awkward. But Emily was like fully in her bed before. She had gotten under the covers. I feel like if they weren't staying there they would not

39:48want to mess with Victoria's sheets. Also Shannon and Vicki going from the pool to the Jacuzzi and trying to go over the edge and taking 35 minutes to really lean into the Lucy and Ethel. We really got to work on Shannon's core. It's all acting though. I think she has a stronger core than she puts off. You're right it's weak ankles. To lean out the luggage everything is dramatic you know. I know it's just like what are we doing? It's not even camp it's just like a caricature of itself. That's sad because I don't want the legacy of Orange County or Orange County. It's leave on this. Right. Well that's why we just got to take a pause. Got to take a pause. Yeah because you got to know when to leave the party. Right. We have overstate our welcome like we're at Charley's right now and it's 4am. It will be super interesting if New Jersey is well we're see after this long pause. Like we said that could be the template for a pause on a franchise

40:49I think you're right. Obviously we're going to keep watching. Obviously duh. Obviously. I am curious next week how they're going to pick that up with her out talking to production. And just like leave Vicki. You guys start coming after Emily. We need an Emily take down season. Okay. She's giving you everything to take her down. There's going to be no take down because I think Gina and Emily have run the course. I've been saying this for years now but I really do think this time every season. No. For real. They're gone. I share hope so it needs to be done. What is Gina's storyline this season? She got engaged to Travis but she won't talk about it. Okay so we can't talk about that. Can we talk about but we could talk about Vicki's Michael. Great. This show has got so backwards you guys were fucking defending Vicki. Get us out of here. We got to end the weekend. WTF indeed. Okay. Have a good weekend everybody. Bye.