TUESDAY SHOW - 8th September 📻

0:00Welcome to the Ben Fordham Podcast. Hi there, welcome to the show. It's Tuesday, September 8 coming up today. Erin Patterson, the triple murderer, gets the fat jab. OZEMPIC provided to Erin Patterson, even though she's a convicted murderer, and taxpayers are paying for the medication. We've got some numbers showing Sydney's migration boom. There's a blog called Kyle, who's skating from Melbourne to Perth, and then back again. He's taking off today. We're a bit worried about Kyle, but anyway, he's going to join us on the show. He's a bit of a character. Support us rally behind an accused triple murderer in the United States. A debater rubs over the future of superannuation. We'll break that down with Peter Switzer. King Charles breaks his silence on Harry's move back to the UK, and will reveal more sights subject to Aboriginal land claims, more exclusive revelations coming up, and the show starts now. News you contrast.

1:01Opinions that matter. Now, Ben Fordham comments. Thank you for joining us this morning. Thank you for all of your emails as well. Ben at 2GB.com, if you want to send us an email on anything. I'll tell you what, we're getting lots at the moment about the National Disability Insurance Scheme. The NDIS, ever since Anthony Albany's, he started cutting back on spending. The type of help being offered has been limited. And we warned about this a long time ago. The longer it took them to act on the rorts and the ripoffs, the further into the red the NDIS would slide, and then when it came to judgment day, some desperate decisions would have to be made. And that's what we're hearing about now. These are from good families, these emails. They have loved ones with serious disabilities, and funding is being drastically cut. Opportunities for therapy and rehabilitation are being reduced. Outings and community interactions are no longer considered vital. And I want to share just one email right now.

2:03It comes from a mum, dear Ben, I'm reaching out in desperation and in the hope that you may be able to bring attention to a situation that has become critical for my daughter and our family. I'm the sole parent and career of my 16-year-old daughter, who lives with a severe disability, and relies on the NDIS for her care, safety, well-being, and community participation. We're facing the imminent exhaustion of my daughter's funding, the possible loss of her essential supports, and a complete lack of certainty as to what's being done to prevent this outcome. Her funding is expected to be exhausted within days. I cannot adequately express how frightened I am. What's going to happen when these services stop? These are not optional supports, Ben. They are critical services that enable her to safely access the community, maintain her well-being, and receive the support she requires because of her severe disability. I'm terrified of the consequences for my daughter if these services cease.

3:05As her sole parent and career, I'm equally frightened about the impact on our family. I work full-time. I've spent years doing everything possible to provide for my daughter and have a stable, safe, and secure life. If her support stops, the impact on both of us will be devastating. It will affect her well-being, her ability to participate in the community, and my ability to continue working and supporting our family. The fear and uncertainty surrounding this situation are overwhelming. What I find most difficult to accept is that I did everything I was supposed to. I raised concerns about funding well before it became critical. I sought assistance early. I responded promptly to every request and followed every available process, yet despite doing everything possible to prevent this situation, we are now facing a crisis because of delays and inaction. Family should not be placed in this position. Behind every NDIS review, every file, every funding decision is a real person.

4:09In this case, it's a vulnerable child with significant disability and a mother who's doing everything she can to protect her daughter and to keep her life stable. Thank you for taking the time to read my story and for giving a voice to families who often feel unheard. Kind regards, Kamehshah. Now that's one desperate mum. We've shared her case with the National Disability Insurance Agency for Consideration. And sadly, it's not an extraordinary case. We're hearing this all the time and I encourage you to share your emails with me and if you want to call right now you can. 131873. The NDIS was a bubble. It grew fatter and fatter until it finally exploded. And now sadly, the shrapnel is flying everywhere. If your family's been hit by it, you can phone in right now. 131873. If you've got a more detailed summary that you want to share with me,

5:10it's best to email it. Ben at 2GB.com. And we'll share it with the National Disability Insurance Agency. But this is what happens when you allow something to grow so large, when you allow the scams and the rorts to run rampant, well then when you've got to cut things back, innocent people have to walk the plank. Like what you're hearing? Make sure you've subscribed to BenForto. Thank you for talking about her daughter. Della, go right ahead. Hi Ben, thanks for taking this up. I have a 40 year old daughter who is severely intellectually disabled.

6:14She's incontinent. She cannot do a thing for herself. She needs to be washed, fed, dressed, toileted. She cannot do anything. She's been at a beautiful foundation called WINGAP for 21 years, straight out of her special schooling bond eye. And she has always had funding for six hours a day, five days a week, ever since she left school. And it's been a godsend for her. It's her whole life. It's her social community. Everything, all of these things that she does every day, gives her a life that everybody else has out in the community. We've just been given a form last week asking to see which half of her life would you like to slash? Which half of the week is she going to stay at home and sit there and do nothing with you at home? And I tell you, we know that the Indian person needs urgent reforms. But this is, does taken a knife and slash 50% apparently it's already gone to Parliament.

7:17And it's 50% of funding. And they're most vulnerable people, all in the community. I betrarily having their funding just slashed. Absolutely appalling, Dealer. And this is because they allowed this thing to balloon bigger and bigger and bigger. And when we were saying hang on a moment, you've got crystal wands and tarot cards and all this other BS that's being charged to the NDIS, they didn't do anything about it. No, absolutely. And now of course they're gone for the low-lying fruit, the easier, the most vulnerable people in society. And they haven't even considered the people who are living in group homes, supported independent living people, who a lot of those people attend day program at WINGAT places like WINGAT. There are hundreds of thousands, 339,000 people I believe have had social funding cut from one way or another. And tell me, Dealer, your daughter's name, what's her name? Dominique. Dominique, hang on there, Dealer. And we will take up Dominique's case with the NDIS

8:18or the National Disability Insurance Agency. Alison, your next, what's your daughter's story? Yeah, she's 31 years old. She's completely bed-bound in a dark room with no noise and no sound allowed around her. She's been diagnosed with five different medical conditions, but only one has been accepted by the NDIS. So we get 10 hours of support currently per week. Five of that is social hours. So those are going to be removed in December, which means that there is only five hours of support work per day. But then hang on a moment, that social support is vital to someone in your daughter's situation. Well, she doesn't even use it because she can't get out of her bed, because she's 24 hour a day bed-bound, she can't get out of the toilet. Right. She's in that piece. It's vital for us to use from a support worker paying support workers, pointing to the beds, what we do.

9:18We're not spoofing her. She can't watch TV. She can't watch movies. She can listen to audio books at one and a half speed. We use crowdfunding to pay for some people to come and look at how plug-after-her. I've given up my job to plug-after-her. Well, I'm currently only even lonely. Can you just clarify for me, Alison, is she facing cuts at the moment? Yes. In December? What's her name? Kids. Hang on there and we'll take up kids' case as well. And if you've fallen to a similar boat, we want to hear from you. Email Ben at 2GB.com Sydney's Best Breakfast. 2GB. Our number one, three, one, eight, seven, three. If you'd like to be part of the show. Because Apple is launching its first ever foldable iPhone. The price tag, more than $2,000 US dollars. It's the most expensive iPhone ever released.

10:19And Apple's been working on the design for eight years. Experts reckon that Apple could sell 10 million of them in their first year. But prices are going up across the entire iPhone range. And this has Apple nervous because last time they hiked prices aggressively, sales dropped. Their new boss, John Turnus, is about to reveal his new product lineup at a launch party in California. And that's when we'll see Apple's first foldable iPhone. One former Apple engineer says there are a lot of reasons why Apple wanted to wait. The structure of the device Apple will probably launch has been possible for more than a decade. However, the screen would have cost thousands of dollars to make 10 years ago. So we'll see what they come up with in California. Have you got a Samsung foldable phone? Do they work okay? Are you going to buy an Apple one? Or are you still rocking the Nokia? Minus has been for the life. What Sydney's best breakfast on 2GB 873?

11:21Well, if you've ever thought that Sydney feels like it's full, have a listen to this. Sydney is taken in more migrants than any other Australian capital city. That's according to new analysis from the Institute of Public Affairs. They found overseas migration is driving population growth at a record rate. And I can sense already everyone will be saying, is this really breaking news? Well, it's just confirming what we already know. At the same time, long time Sydney locals are packing up and moving to other parts of the country. Are you one of those Sydney ciders who's decided to bail and go somewhere else? Where are you listening from this morning? From 2023 to 2025, 1.3 million migrants came to Australia and more than 352,000 settled in Sydney. So well over a quarter of a million between 2023 and 2025. In the same period, 113,000 people moved out of Sydney

12:25and to a different city in Australia. And if you break down some of these numbers, let's have a look at paramatter. Paramatter took in 49,000 migrants over those two years, while 26,000 moved to a different Aussie city. More than 48,000 migrants moved to Sydney, South West, and 24,000 residents left. They decided to go somewhere else. And in Sydney CBD and in a city, they gained nearly 48,000 migrants and 24,000 residents left. I wonder whether the residents are leaving because of the record number of migrants coming in? That people think, all right, well, I can't get access to services like I was able to before. I can't find a job. I can't get a bed in a hospital. I'll go somewhere else where there's a bit more room. The figures suggest many of those leaving Sydney and making new lives in places like Brisbane and Perth. However, all the analysis found overseas migration accounted for 108% of Sydney's population growth.

13:32And the senior fellow Kevin Yu from the Institute of Public Affairs says Sydney has been ground zero for the unprecedented post-pandemic mass migration. He's told the Daily Telegraph there must be a significant and immediate cut to immigration. This has been for them live with Sydney's best breakfast on 2GB, 873. Liberal party operatives are denying that they were planning on buying luxury cars with money from a dodgy developer. Jeremy Greenwood has told the ICAC he regrets not keeping records of payments from the fugitive John Naseef. Naseef led Sydney in 2022 after a fraud investigation into his company top place. And when the business collapsed, it's estimated up to 20,000 homeowners were impacted. Naseef employed Jeremy Greenwood to help fast track developments. Naseef agreed that Mr Greenwood's company would earn a million dollars for every successful project.

14:33ICAC wants to know why there's nothing in writing to reflect this contract. Council assisting Peggy Dwyer has told the lobbyist, that's a ridiculous way to run a business. Jeremy Greenwood says the arrangement is regrettable, but he says, when he tells you my word is my bond, you either take the deal or you don't have one. ICAC has heard that fellow Liberal operative Christian Ellis exchanged texts about Ferraris and porches. One message to Jeremy Greenwood said that Ferraris very nice, very, very nice. Mr Dwyer asked if the exchange is related to a big chunk of money coming from Naseef. Jeremy Greenwood is denying that assertion, and the ICAC inquiry continues. A woman's body has been found inside a unit in Sydney's West. Police have made the grim discovery just before 9 o'clock last night in Wentworthville.

15:37Officers located the body of a woman inside an apartment. It's believed that she's aged in her 50s, and a 53 year old man has been found unresponsive inside the unit. He's been treated at the scene and taken to hospital. A crime scene's been established and investigations underway, and anyone with information is urged to contact crime stoppers on 1-800-TRIPLE-3-TRIPLE-0. And we've had four people injured in a ferry crash. The vessel collided with a pile on at Circular Key on Monday afternoon. Paramedics treaded passengers at the scene from minor injuries, including a cut to the head and a wrist complaint. Two people had to be taken to St Vincent's Hospital. One person has been seen being loaded into an ambulance on a stretcher. And the crash occurred in the midst of ongoing industrial action. So hopefully everyone's okay who was involved in that ferry crash at Circular Key yesterday afternoon. It is September 8 and on this day, a big name hit TV screens for the first time.

16:39Here's your only hints. You can talk to me. You can talk to me when you're down there. You can talk to me. A big name hit TV screens for the first time. If you think you know the answer, you can text it in now. 046-0873-873. The answer's coming up on this day. Like what you're hearing? Make sure you've subscribed to Ben Fordon. The Bureau of Statistics shows official reported smoking figures are plunging. However, Black Market Tobacco consumption is surging.

17:40It makes up 80% of the total tobacco market. The number of people needing hospital treatment for nicotine poisoning has risen from 72 in 2015 to 2016 to 163. That includes nearly 20 people aged between 15 and 24. This has been Fordon Live with Sydney's best breakfast on 2GB-873. I mentioned at the top of the show that we have a 2GB breakfast exclusive coming this morning. Six high profile organisations coming together calling for action on the explosion in Aboriginal land claims. This follows a revelation on this program yesterday. Well, we've been doing it since Friday. When we expose the fact that the famous Bondi icebergs is the subject of an Aboriginal land claim. It's been lodged by La Peruz Local Aboriginal Land Council. That made headlines right across the country. Yesterday, we revealed three more high profile addresses.

18:43One is Justin Hemie's new venue club Rose Bay. He didn't even know about it by the way when we contacted him. The other one is St Michael's Golf Club in Little Bay. It's been operating since 1938, has stunning views of the Pacific Ocean. It's a social hub. Anyone can go in there and have a round. The other is Matriville RSL Club Matto, a special place for veterans and the wider local community for more than 60 years. And there are more than 44,000 unresolved land claims gathering dust on the minister's desk. Something urgently needs to be done. The minister will be joining us in studio tomorrow, but today we will reveal these six organisations that have come together calling for urgent action. This has been Fordum Live with Sydney's best breakfast on 2GB 873. Matiu wants to talk about migration speaking of urgent action needed. Hi, Matiu. Did I bend here going?

19:43I'm well, mate. What's on your mind? I just heard you talk about the migration that was in Sydney before. I was just thinking to myself, I'd love the Prime Minister to be able to answer a couple of points or questions on the matter. I come from a migrant family. My mum came in from England and her family in the 50s. But I think back then there was a lot of opportunity, a lot of room for this sort of level of migration to happen. So the simple question is, I'd like to have answered is, just say you were in a family home, two parents, four kids. Would that family have more kids or would they wait till they had a bigger house before they decided to bring more people into that sort of home and had the room to move, to grow, to develop. And then the second point, I'd love to know what would happen if we didn't have migration for a couple of years. What is the need? What's the implications for the country if we didn't just say we cut it off for a couple of years. Just to essentially catch up our services, our housing, our...

20:43Yeah, and look, there'd be some businesses saying we need workers, but there are also plans around getting older people to work longer without taking away some of their pension benefits. So there's ways of getting more workers and also when you always bring in workers from overseas, Matthew, those overseas workers need roads, hospitals and all those other services. So it becomes a vicious cycle. Yeah, yeah, and I know me personally, if I didn't have the room in my house to have an extra child, I wouldn't have it. You know, you'd wait till you could provide and you could... you had a big home to put that family in. Well, that's because you care about the quality of service that you provide your children. You want to make sure that they're growing up in a place where all of the things are being looked after. And I want to share a few stories just from some families. I know along those lines, but Matthew, I want to say thank you for your call. First of all, where are you and what are you doing? I'm a way to work. I'm just driving through the shower right now. The answer won't go for work. Can I send you a little something from us here at 2GB?

21:45Yeah, no problem at all, yeah. You don't have a dog, do you? If you got a dog? We do, yeah. What's a dog's name? Cougar. Cougar? Yeah, she's a Belgian Shepherd, she's a 12-year-old, she's a... a smart little puppy. Well, I better send Cougar some Lyca treats. Just hang on there and we'll get a Lyca gift pack coming Cougar's way. Our number one, three, one, eight, seven, three. And just on Matthew's point about migration, over the weekend, I was away with some neighbors. We went away for an annual, get away that we do with a group of friends who live in our street. And we were talking about this very issue, just about how much room each family has. I know that James and Annabelle, for example, were talking about the fact that they probably feel like they need to go another level up because they don't have a hell of a lot of room and their boys, Jack and Will are getting older and into their teenage years before you know it, certainly the older one, Jack.

22:46And they're thinking to themselves, all right, we probably need a second level. And this is what Matthew's saying that normal people do when they're planning for the future. Across the road, we've got a lovely couple called Nikki and Ed. And they've just had their third and they've decided they need to sell. Because they need more room. They're in a smaller house. So they had enough room when it was Georgie and Henry. But now that Louise come along, they need a bigger house. So these are the conversations that normal people have when they're welcoming more people into any situation. So what's Albo's excuse for not doing it? You're listening to the Ben Fordham podcast. And now Ben Fordham comments. We are fed so much spin and so many lies when it comes to Australia's energy transition. We have to jump in regularly with a fact check. And that's what we're doing right now. Otherwise, people may think that what they were sold is what they actually ended up getting.

23:47And that's often far from the truth. For example, it wasn't that long ago that we were told Australia was going to become a green hydrogen superpower. Remember, even Chris Bowen told us so. And when the writing was on the wall that he was wrong in mid 2024, the energy minister insisted reports of the death of the green hydrogen industry are greatly exaggerated. He pointed to more than 200 billion worth of green hydrogen projects in the pipeline. And he said Australia will become a green hydrogen superpower. So how's all of that going? The government's 2030 target was at least 500,000 tons of renewable hydrogen a year. So keep that in mind. 500,000 tons, current production, about 1,100. That's around 0.2% of the target. And 1,100 tons might sound like a decent amount, but it isn't. If you converted Australia's annual renewable hydrogen production into electricity,

24:51it wouldn't even power double. So much for being a green hydrogen superpower. And one of the biggest projects behind that dream has just dumped the giant hydrogen plan at its heart. This is the Australian renewable energy hub in Western Australia in the Pilbra. It was supposed to be a 50 billion dollar mega project. One of the biggest renewable energy and green hydrogen projects in the world. But now the giant hydrogen and ammonia proposal has been pulled. BP has walked away. Macquarie has walked away. CWP global has walked away. Instead of charging head with this enormous hydrogen project, the developer is now having a reality check. They're now talking about starting off with just one gigawatt of renewable power. The plan was for 26 gigawatts of wind and solar. This thing was promising nearly nine arirang-cold-fired power plants worth of installed generation. There were going to be 1,750 wind turbines, solar panels for as far as the eyes can see.

25:57And the project would cover more than 660,000 hectares of the Pilbra, which is about ten times the size of Singapore. And what were they going to do with all of that power? D-salonate seawater. Use the water to make green hydrogen. Turn that hydrogen into ammonia. And then put it on ships and sail it around the world. That was the dream. Except there was one pretty important problem. You need someone to buy the stuff. And BP's admitted that's where it ran into trouble. BP bought a 40% stake in the project and took over his operator. Then they walked away in 2025. The BP Australia boss Lucy Nation later admitted, we went faster than many of our customers were ready for. She's also acknowledged that when it came to green hydrogen imports, there had been quote, a lot of hype. End quote. There it is. A lot of hype. That's why we do these regular fact checks because the spin never matches up with reality. When Twiggy Forest started scaling back on green hydrogen,

27:00Chris Bowen was still preaching and pressing ahead. What did he say in June of 2024? Reports of the death of the green hydrogen industry are greatly exaggerated. Well two years on, the funeral notice has been printed, the eulogy has been written and the church bells are ringing. By the way, it wasn't just Chris Bowen drinking the cool aid. Plenty of people were saying they were interested too. But when it came to signing long term contracts and actually paying, different story. As the boss of BP said, there was a lot of hype. If only hype kept the lights on. People you know. Opinions that matter. News you can trust. This is break first with Ben Fordham on Sydney's 2GB. Thank you very much for being with us. Our Money Man Peter Switzer here in just a moment as a debater rubs over the future of superannuation. This is a policy put forward by Pauline Hanson.

28:01And following that policy pitch, a whole range of people have come out against the idea. Well, book to Switzer about that in just a moment. More than 200 staff have been stood down from the Barth Floor Group. Administrators have confirmed that the majority of the company's projects have been suspended. The developer owes $3.6 billion to creditors. Five lenders have agreed to give the company a lifeline. This allows limited operations to continue for two more weeks. 213 workers have been laid off. The New South Wales Premier Chris Minne says the government is in discussions with the administrator. However, the Premier says he's not keen on handing over public funds to save the company. The fallout of the failed developer has continued to spread. As Sydney Council has now been tied up in the drama. The Barth Floor Group owes money and public infrastructure work to Blacktown City Council.

29:02It's the first instance of ratepayers being on the hook following the collapse of the building giant. The Council has not confirmed how much it's owed. If anyone at Blacktown City Council knows the answer to that and they want to share it with us anonymously, you can email benatougib.com. Meanwhile, the four big banks are also expected to be caught up in the debt. More than 1,000 sub-e's and their workers linked to Barth Floor. With one of the major banks. Financial expert Dion Herschen has told the Australian Financial Review Commonwealth Bank might not have been a lender to Barth Floor, but it lent money to the person that owned the crane. Money, money, money. You'll listening to Sydney's best breakfast. Ben Fordham Live, and now the business report. Paul Enhancin's superannuation idea is sparked debate. One nation has proposed allowing workers to access up to a quarter of their super to help deal with the cost of living when it comes to housing.

30:05So this is for paying the mortgage or paying for rent. The radical idea has been met with backlash from the treasurer Jim Charmers. But is it all that radical when you consider it's our money? Peter Switzer from switzer.com.au. Hi, Switzer. Hi, Matt. Now you all remember, initially, superfunds were complained because they'll lose money. And they make their money by charging a percentage on the money the fund, the cyber puts into super. So that's the first thing. So you can't trust their argument. Also, Jim Charmers is really close to the union movement, which of course is close to the industry superfund. So he will argue the case for them. Now the bottom line is what Hansen is proposing is this Ben. Imagine you're at $100,000 a year, and $12,000 is going to super. That's 12% of $100,000. She says you can access a quarter of that $12,000. That means $3,000 a year, which will help you with rent or mortgage repayments if you're under pressure.

31:08And so for my point of view, and I'm the advisor, but I think this is a reasonable idea, as long as it's regulated properly. So you don't want people getting their $3,000 and going to the pen of Panthers and putting it through the poker machine. But if someone's on a mortgage and an interest rates going up and up and up, and I remember in the 1980s, interest rates got to 17%. I would have loved something like this to make it easy to cope with that tough time. So I think her policy is okay. And when you get older, you can catch up on super. Because when you're in your 50s, you're off the highest income. You've got rid of those kids who take money off your all the time. And you can build your super ups. So all these arguments against this, I think are totally unfair. Yeah, you can't use the money to go to Bali or by Lamborghini. It's for rent or the mortgage and how the markets. Yeah, down, down, not actually close over, but our market is expected to be down to six points at the start. Aussie dollars climbing 72.21 US cents.

32:10Good on your sweets. We'll catch up tomorrow. Cheers mate. Peter Switzer from switzer.com.au. Sydney's weather partly cloudy, a possible morning shower, 73% humidity. It's 14 on the coast, 13 in the west, a top of 19. This has been for the life with Sydney's best breakfast on 2GB. 873. We've received hundreds of messages about indigenous land claims on prime real estate in Sydney. We revealed three more examples yesterday, one being Justin Hemie's popular venue club Rose Bay. We've also revealed that a golf course is being targeted St. Michael's golf club in little bay and an RSL, which has been a special place for veterans and the wider community for more than 60 years. That's club Mato, or officially speaking, Matt reveal RSL. Natalie says funny that it's always prime real estate. Alex says it's never a worthless vacant paddock. Judy says they didn't claim land until money was involved.

33:13Roddy says the floodgates have now opened. Bryce says give them an inch. Valerie writes this land belongs to all Australians. Michael says what a coincidence they're all iconic. And Gigi says, will they be making a claim on Curibilly House next? Like what you're hearing? Subscribe to the Benfordham Live podcast through Apple and Spotify. Congratulations, Mary. You get $100 from On Deck. The small business loan specialist because you were first in with the correct answer in the quiz. So you've got $100 coming your way and the answer's coming up on this day. We've got a $20,000 cash giveaway as well this week. All you do is listen to breakfast mornings, afternoons and Sydney now. And then listen for the cue to call the following morning on the breakfast show for your chance to win $2,000. We had a great winner yesterday and hopefully we'll find another one today. So just keep on listening for your chance to win.

34:14It's been confirmed a group of farmers is taking the New South Wales government to the Supreme Court. Energy Co is planning to build transmission lines through their properties. The towers are set to stand up to 75 meters tall. And nearly 18,000 acres of land will need to be cleared. A group of landholders in our taking legal action. They're taking their fight to the Supreme Court. And the one nation MP Barnaby Joyce is throwing his support behind them. There are questions now being raised about whether the project has been lawfully established in the first place. Legal advice shows a mandatory requirement relating to the impact of the site on electricity costs was not met. The Walker farmer Anna Young says before another dollar is spent, the government needs to stop. They need to answer some fundamental questions about this project. The group says this legal challenge is only the first step. They say further legal avenues are available and likely to be explored.

35:17This has been Forum Life. What's Sydney's best breakfast on 2GB-873? Well, this is sad news. Australia's oldest woman has died. Lawner Hennstrich has passed away aged 112. What was the secret of law and her success? The South Australian was born on June 6, 1914. That's one month before World War I officially began. Lawner grew up on a farm about 130km from Adelaide. She married Alan and had three children. She's had seven grandchildren and nine great-grandchildren. And she's seen a lot in a lifetime. She's lived through two global pandemics. She's seen five monarchs take the throne. And she's had 26 Australian Prime Ministers. And Lawner never let old age stop her. In fact, she lived on her own until she was 105.

36:17She loved to go out for a coffee with her friends. And she previously said the secret to her longevity was moving all the time. She also encouraged people not to let old fashioned ideas take over your life. She once said you've got to live today by today's standards. Keep going and be happy with it. Well, congratulations on a life well-lived Lawner Hennstrich. Australia's oldest woman, who's died aged 112. Now, on Friday, we have a special guest from New York. He'll be joining us on the 25th anniversary of 9-11. And anyone who was alive in 2001 will never forget September 11th. Terror took hold and rocked the world to its core, when 19 terrorists hijacked four passenger planes. At 8.46am, American Airlines flight 11 hit the North Tower of the World Trade Center in New York. 17 minutes later, United Airlines flight 175 smashed into the South Tower.

37:22Then American Airlines flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon. And then United Flight 93 came down in a field in Pennsylvania after passengers and crew fought back against the terrorists. The attacks killed nearly 3,000 people and injured thousands more. And 25 years on, a retired flight attendant is on a mission to one of those who lost their lives. For the last five years, Paul Ivenito has embarked on a challenge called Pauli's Push. He's been pushing an aeroplane beverage cart along the paths of each flight impacted on September 11. And this year he's been walking 350 kilometers from Boston to ground zero. We'll catch up with him on Friday morning as the world remembers September 11th. Today our nation saw evil, the very worst of human nature.

38:26Tonight I ask for your prayers for all those who grief. You're here, right? She's at high ground in your flight. Yeah, you're here. You're here to make a bang. And then we saw smoke coming out and everybody started running out and we saw the police on the other side of the building. And there was smoke everywhere and people jumping out the windows. The explosion happened. Some guy came out and he says, I was all alone, I helped him out. This is a blow. I was just standing here watching the world trade sit there after the first plane hit. I just saw a second plane coming from the south and he hit the south tower halfway between the bottom and the top of the tower. It's got to be a terrorist attack. I can't tell you anything about it. I saw the plane hit the building. First I didn't watch the whole thing come down. So we all thought it was another explosion and we looked up and said, there's one workers think they've seen everything. But they'll never say they never may is that what is happening is done right now behind me.

39:27What normally would be the world trade center is no more. People I came with went to the ones that came out post and one where one of the towers was. And there was nothing there. We figured that the bodies all over but there was nothing. And maybe it was two or three stories from the run. There's no words to describe in the pictures of airplanes flying in the buildings. Fires burning, huge structures collapsing. I filled this with disbelief, terrible sadness, and a quiet, unyielding anger. These acts of mass murder were intended to frighten our nation into chaos and retreat. But they have failed. Our country is strong. A great people has been moved to defend a great nation. Terrorists and tax can shake the foundations of our biggest buildings.

40:27But they cannot touch the foundation of America. We're very confident that we can be able to get the news from Mark himself. Some hot and made-and-much easier to take. It's a national time of mourning for all of us. So I just want to many, many people. We're so touched by the words of our President. By the words of the Congress people hearing, hearing, hearing. I love you, I love you. I love you. I love you. I don't know how much of our money looks like. We're going to be dedicating much of the program on Friday to the 25th anniversary of September 11. We'll remember those who lost their lives. We'll think of all of the heroes and the helpers.

41:28I'm going to tell you a remarkable story about two men called John and Bill. They worked side by side that day. One of them was a firefighter. The other was a police officer. They were from opposite ends of New York. They looked at each other's badges. They were saying, in one end and one of them worked at the other end. And then one said to the other, I guess it takes the world center, world trade center collapsing for us to be working together. And it hadn't collapsed yet. The tower was hadn't collapsed yet. And they're having this conversation and then out of nowhere, one says to the other, my wife's name is Carol. And then the other says to the other, my wife's name is Cynthia. And you'll hear the story from one of them. Bill Spade, who reckons the John Delara, was letting him know his wife's name just in case he died. And sure enough, John never made it out alive.

42:30And Bill later delivered John's badge to his wife and shared his final words with his family. It was an unwritten deal that was done 25 years ago on Friday. Sydney's best breakfast. 2GB. We're learning more about the never ending pile of Aboriginal land claims in New South Wales. 2GB breakfast can this morning reveal two more popular locations that are subject to land claims. The first is the Tathra Beach Country Club on the South Coast. It's been referred to as the Gem of the Sapphire Coast. It's got an 18-hole golf course, tennis courts and a restaurant. So the Tathra Beach Country Club is now subject to a land claim. The other venues about five minutes away, the Tathra Beach Bowling Club. It's also subject to an Aboriginal land claim. The club has been open for decades. It's a vital part of the local community. And 2GB breakfast is also confirmed,

43:31St Michael's Golf Club, Matt Trevill, Aresel and Club Rose Bayer on the list. Those names were mentioned yesterday for the first time. And we can now reveal the dates that those claims were recorded in December 2024. The Laperoo's Aboriginal Land Council lodged claims on St Michael's Golf Course and Matt Trevill Aresel. The New South Wales Aboriginal Land Council is responsible for the claim on Justin Hemie's venue called Club Rose Bay. That claim was made in February this year. So that's around two months after Justin Hemie's took over. And as we put more of a spotlight on the Sydney locations subject to land claims, we have more venues to add to the list. It's been confirmed Aboriginal Land Council's have lodged claims on the following locations. Ashfield Bowling Club, Toronto Country Club, Newcastle Post Office, North Sydney Courthouse, Malibar Police Station,

44:33and the Leighton Courthouse Car Park. Kelly Sloan is the New South Wales Liberal Leader. She's live in our studio, Kelly, good morning to you. Good morning, Ben. Is there anything not on the list? Well, I can add another one, the Bondi Bowl, that's had a recent land claim as well. That's the really well-used Bowling Club in North Bondi that I had a big campaign to sort of fight against the Crown Land Rent increases. They are under a cloud now too because of purported technical breaches of their lease. This is what is happening to clubs everywhere. And look, I commend the Minister for trying to fix it up. And I've said that we will stand with them and try to sort it out. Okay, you are in the eastern suburbs of Sydney. The member for Vaughl Kluz. We've revealed on our program on Friday every surf club on the eastern beaches of Sydney is now subject to a land claim. What's going on here, Kelly? It's an absurd situation and the uncertainty it's creating is profound.

45:33It's destabilising for small community clubs. It's putting every other club on watch that if they try to sell a few coffees out of a coffee cart they could be in a technical breach of their lease and subject to land claim. I mean, 44,000 land claims in New South Wales is not the intent of the original legislation. The original legislation, which has been around for a long time, was designed to free up land that wasn't being used or had special spiritual significance to Aboriginal land councils as a form of payment back for their land loss. And that is a fair and reasonable thing to do. What is happening now is not fair and reasonable and it's unfortunately creating uncertainty. It's creating division. Even the respected Indigenous Elder Roy RC was on our show yesterday. His land claims legislation is now being weaponised and that's why Steve Campan needs to step in and fix it quick smart. Why has that not happened already? Is it because the land councils out there are angry about what's about to happen?

46:34They're angry that they were not consulted, according to them. I understand a lot of consultation has happened after the bill was introduced. But we have an extended a hand of bipartisanship to the government. We'll work with them to get through sensible legislation that sorts this out once and for all. The land councils, what they're doing is not against the law. It is within their rights to do this. But I'm concerned about when matters like this raise to the surface, when people are alarmed about their local clubs and worried about the loss of that, potentially for housing being built. That is the fear in the Bondi community around the Bolo. That if that leaves public hands, it could be open to a big building development. I don't know whether that's their plan or not, but that's the uncertainty it creates in communities. And what about club rose by? We've just confirmed that the claim was made on club rose by February 18, 2026. So Justin Hemie's comes in and opens it up and it's the hottest place to go in Sydney and what happens? Automatically land claim.

47:34Well, I'm concerned about that not just for Justin Hemie's, he's a businessman, but for the RSL that operates out of that club and the diggers that have been going there for years. There's no suggestion that the Aboriginal lands council's, by the way, would do anything with that block that they wouldn't just continue to be a good landlord. But the fact is that we don't know, we don't have certainty. And if a government that owns Crown Land decides to sell it off for public housing, they have to face me in the Chamber, they have to face their constituents and the community. We lose that, we lose that check and balance. And can you imagine how much money is being spanned of taxpayers money on lawyers at the moment, dealing with 44,000 unresolved land claims? We'll talk to the Minister, Steve Camp, about that tomorrow when he joins us live in studio. We're with Kelly Sloan, the Opposition Leader right now, on another issue. The NSW government has announced new laws aimed at cracking down on crime gangs. The laws will allow for young people caught up in a crime activity to be charged as adults. I remember saying to Chris Min some time ago, you should look at Queensland that's doing adult crime adult time.

48:39They're now saying that young people could face up to 25 years behind bars for certain gang-related crimes. Is that going to fix it? It won't fix it, but I think we certainly need to be tougher on those that are committing multiple crimes. Because arresting them, sending them to court and they get off, is not fixing the problem. 94 arrests is a crazy situation. And the police have expressed their frustration to me as well. But look what I'm seeing from this Labor government is layer upon layer upon layer of legislation, laws that are actually not having a great impact on our street. 51 gang-land shootings this year alone, innocent people being shot in their driveways, in their bed, people being shot at on school pickup. This has spilled over from gang-land into everyday life. And it is frightening and people are worried. What about the courts and what a joke they are? A teenage gangster has been charged on 94 separate occasions, but he's never been convicted and police are furious at the soft handling of this teenager and his co-accus.

49:39So I'll just give the details. They're both 15. The pair has been charged after a shooting where bullets were sprayed into the wrong home in Maryland. One of the teens has also been charged over a second shooting in Guilford West. A teen involved in both shootings has pleaded guilty to a reduced number of charges. He's received a sentence of 24 months in youth detention, but with time served, he walked free the same day with no conviction recorded. The 15-year-old involved in the Maryland shooting was also involved in a separate stabbing. He's pleaded guilty to a reduced number of charges. He's received a sentence of 30 months in a youth centre, and the teenager will be due for release over coming weeks. But for the 94th time in his life, no conviction has been recorded. It's absolutely mad and it's very clear that it's ineffective. This isn't just us being served. It's not good for that kid who's off the rails and hasn't been taught a lesson. A slap on the wrist doesn't keep our community safe. But let me say this as well. These cowards, these fugitives who are sitting offshore and hiring kids to do their dirty work need to be dragged home.

50:46And this is on the police minister in New South Wales. Why has she not forcefully picked up the phone to Canberra to Michelle Roll and the Attorney General and said act on the red notices that police are issuing for these crims with blood on their hands, why are they not bringing them back to Australia faster? New South Wales seems to be blaming Canberra for what's happening at the moment on the streets of Sydney. They blame Canberra for everything, whether it's record lows in GST, whether it's low levels of funding for health, whether it's us being dutted by Canberra on infrastructure. State Labour cannot do a deal with federal labour to save their lives, or actually in this case to save our lives, because people are being shot on the streets of Sydney, and we need to get tougher. Liberals and nationals will be tough on crime. We are known for that. We need to fix this situation up because it is escalating, and it's not getting better under piles of labour's legislation. And it's not a good look when Yasmin Catley's passing the buck to the federal attorney general. Yasmin, you are the police minister in New South Wales. It's your job to fix it.

51:47Always good to catch up, Kelly. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks Ben. Kelly Sloan, the Liberal leader in New South Wales. Like what you're hearing? Subscribe to the Benfordham Live podcast through Apple and Spotify. Adrian says this land claim nonsense has to be stopped now as a massive can of worms. Chris says, wouldn't it be easier to just put a blanket claim on all of New South Wales? Shannon says, if they want to claim all of this land, they should have to prove that they can run the land successfully instead of just selling them all for running them into the ground. Nick says, is the taxpayer paying for the legal fees on these land claims? Ian asks, could you imagine what would have happened if the voice got up? And this one on Kelly Sloan from Ben. Kelly seems to be really hitting her stride, sounding confident, making sense, keep it up, Kelly. Like what you're hearing? Make sure you've subscribed to Benfordham. A veteran school principal is walking away from her career after refusing to promote a trans awareness day in a primary school.

52:56Janelle Roe has clashed with education officials in Canberra over where at Purple Day, Ms. Roe had been pushing for a traditional anti-bullying campaign instead. She says a day focusing on trans rights is the wrong fit for young children. After complaints from activists, Ms. Roe faced a disciplinary process. Her lawyers claim he'd led to trumped up an unproven claims about her performance. The teacher of 34 years says, I believe where at Purple Day is not a harmless dress up day, it requires teachers to explain what these lifestyles are about to children. I don't feel it's the place of schools to be talking about sexualised issues with infants and primary students. Well, I would have thought the same, but the New South Wales Teachers Federation is in favour of the event. They say, well being profoundly affects student outcomes, that's why we market each year.

53:56Janelle Roe claims she faced vague workplace allegations after she spoke out against where at Purple Day. She's told Jason Morrison of the Daily Telegraph, I'd had a great career for years and good relations with staff and parents. Suddenly, I was no good in the eyes of the system. Sydney's best breakfast. Two GB. Now this is unbelievable. One of Australia's most high profile prisoners will get access to taxpayer-funded weight loss jabs. Triple murderer Aaron Patterson has been approved for access to a WZM pick. She's serving a life sentence. After serving three of her relatives are deadly lunch, containing death-capped mushrooms, they were served in a beef Wellington. Aaron Patterson confessed during her trial to having a binge eating problem and body image issues, and now she's got access to weight loss medication. It costs $134 a month and taxpayers are picking up the bill.

54:59A prison source has confirmed she's only started the medication in recent weeks. They claim she's isolated and unable to exercise. A Department of Justice official says access to a WZM pick is based on doctors advice. They've told the herald son, prescriptions are only given by clinicians where there's a clear medical need. But should taxpayers be picking up the bill? No way. Sydney's best breakfast. Two GB. We've got a birthday shout out right now. Alan Stanton, happy 90th birthday. We're so lucky to have you as our dad. This is from Rod, Greg and Belinda. You're a great grandfather and friend. A beacon of love and wisdom. Enjoy your day. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. Say to birthday. Happy birthday to you.

56:00Happy 90th. Alan Stanton, we hope you have a good one. On the land claim, Steve says this may be an unpopular opinion, but if you're allowed to claim land for free, why wouldn't you? I stand firm on the point that it's not their land, it's for all Australians. Well, you're right. The act allows them to do it. But people are approaching the Crown Lands Act, not in the spirit in which it was intended. It was intended to give people access to put in an application, for unused Crown land. Last time I checked Bondi icebergs is being used, so's club rose by and sell all these golf courses and tennis clubs and bowling clubs too, including the one that Kelly Sloan has confirmed this morning. And that is Bondi Bolo. It's now been confirmed through Steve Camp of the minister for Crown Lands and revealed here on 2GB breakfast by Kelly Sloan that Bondi Bolo is now subject to a land claim too.

57:00Simon says, great interview with Kelly Sloan. Can you talk her into going into federal politics? She's well spoken and a breath of fresh air. Another one here. Kelly seems to be really hitting her stride, sounding confident, making sense. Keep it up, Kelly. So there's some feedback for Kelly Sloan, who just joined us in studio. Now, has anyone spotted Hollywood star Will Smith around Sydney? He's here filming a movie called Supermax and our spies have seen him in Will before. Bring it. That's right. Ben Finn here. You may remember our chat about John Wayne and Mick Jagger at the troppocana hotel in Will before. Anyhow, I came home from work today to find that Will Smith was up the end of my street. Yep, in Will before. I have a photo of Will Smith with our neighbourhood kids, but we were asked not to share it. Kind regards, Ben Finn, troppocana hotel, Will before.

58:03So there you have it, Will Smith hanging out in Will before. And if it's good enough for Mick Jagger and John Wayne, why not Will Smith? So where have you spotted a celeb in an unlikely location? Like what you're hearing? Subscribe to the Benfordham Live podcast through Apple and Spotify. We're about to speak to a bloke who's about to do something crazy. 38-year-old Kyle, Battles Depression and Addiction, and he says these things have really taken their toll on him. He used to have a successful building company and a partner and a good relationship with these two young boys. But he struggles have left him homeless, jobless, and living out of his car. So he's decided to do something insane. And he admits it's crazy. He's going to skateboard 8,000 kilometres across Australia and then back again. He spent his last $2,000 getting ready for this challenge. His aim is to raise a hundred grand for the Black Dog Institute.

59:05So he's hopping on his skateboard in Melbourne, and he's heading to Perth. And then he wants to go back the other way. Kyle Buchanan is on the line, and his fundraiser is up on our website, 2GB.com. Kyle, good morning. Morning, Benny, how are you mate? I'm all right. Who thought of this crazy idea? Oh, I'd like to say that was me, but there's actually a lot in the United States. He just did it. His name was I forget his name, but he just did it. I'm not sure why, but I thought it seems like a good idea. I'll do something on it. So what he did in America? He did it in America, and I'm trying to get in touch with him to come back with me, and just so we can sort of get a few more eyes on it, raise a bit more money. Right, so you reckon you're going to ride a skateboard from Melbourne to Perth? Absolutely. Then how long is that going to take? I haven't really planned this, but that's the thing I'm just going to go for it mate. But I don't know. I think that GPT is telling me that it's going to be a three or four months or something like that. Oh, now I've heard it all.

1:00:06Chat GPT is your trainer, is it? Oh, yeah. How many skateboards have you got? I've got one for now. Mate, you're going to need more than one. Well, it's plenty of shops along the way, and I can scrap another one. I reckon you'll need five between here and Perth. You want to make a bet or what? Well, I don't know. I'm not a skateboarder, but they're not going to, they're not made to travel across the country. Well, then we're going to do some good road testing for some companies out there. We'll make sure that they are capable. And when are you going to start this thing? This morning, it'll probably get off the farm with you. They'll go go go go go go go go and start cracking on. And what are you taking with you? Oh, that's the thing. It's probably got a bit too much stuff. So I'm just going to sit there and think the next few days I'll just start willing stuff down and just sort of run it back to stuff I don't really need. Just, you know, less is more. Top thing, I guess. But we'll work it out on the way. And is anyone going to be traveling with you? No. No, just me. Where are you going to sleep?

1:01:0710. So what you'll have the 10 in the backpack? Yeah. Are you not pulling anything behind the skateboard? It's all going to be on your back. Well, this is the thing, Ben. I'm trying to work this out. I'm somewhat of an avid golfer. A bit of a hack, but anyway. But what I'm thinking I might do, I might get like a golf cart and like a buggy. Put my stuff down to that. Just state that along. I don't know. We'll see. I thought you were about to say you were thinking of taking your golf clubs with you as well. Oh, mate. No, no. I'm done with the golf career. Yeah. Look, one in any cap, mate, that's enough. Can I make a suggestion? Why don't you ride a golf buggy from Melbourne to Perth instead of a bloody skateboard? Well, it's the whole idea, Ben, is to make it hard because it's a figured block, you know, to show people that it can test the limits of what's possible. I guess we'll work it out on the way. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. You're getting some encouraging messages already, T says, go Kyle. Great cause. I'm just wondering what's going on behind you. And there is a fundraising link up on 2GB.com.

1:02:07And are you serious that when you get to Perth, you're going to turn around and come back? That's the plan. And then once we get back to probably in Wongong and again, I had down a Tazzy into a lap of Tazzy. Just keep skating until the money's raised and then once it's raised, maybe you said another goal and keep skating, I guess. And you've been through some tough times. So you want to try and help others who are going through tough times. I have made, I have it sort of lost it has taken its toll. And I guess, you know, through the through, through not speaking and, you know, trying to be comfortable and keeping to myself and that sort of attitude it should be right mate. Look, that's sort of what we're are come undone. You know, so just try what I want to do is I'm putting myself out there being uncomfortable in front of the camera. Just to show others, try and just give people a bit of inspiration that it's, you know, we can do it. We can do it together and just speak up open, be uncomfortable. It's like there's nothing wrong with being uncomfortable. Yeah, that's what I want. But try to try to try to teach people that mate. So if anyone wants to follow along on my Instagram, I have a few links there.

1:03:10I've got one that supports me directly so I can just the more money I can raise from myself, the more I can keep going and help others along the way. And then also the black dog institute. They've been great. So yeah, it's going to be fun. Well, we've got a link to the black dog page up on our 2GB website. And why don't we check in along the way and see how you're going, mate? And we wish you the best of luck. Danny, I'll get a spare board mate. You come join me whenever you like. Mate, I'm crazy enough to do a lot of things, but that's not going to be one of them. I'll just be cheering you on from Sydney. Come on, what do we say about being uncomfortable? Come with me. Come on. Hey, mate, I appreciate you for reaching out. Thank you very much. Good on you, Carl. No worries, mate. Yeah, Carl sent us a note and said, look, I'm about to do something crazy. Is anyone willing to get behind me? And we said, we'll have a chat to you for sure. He's riding a skateboard starting today from Melbourne to Perth. Then he'll get back on the skateboard and go from Perth to Melbourne. And he said he might then go and celebrate by doing a lap of tazzy. Like what you're hearing? Make sure you've subscribed to Ben Fordon.

1:04:14Well, we've got a 2GB breakfast exclusive for you right now. A group of high profile organisations are teaming up to call for action on Aboriginal land claims. The group includes clubs, New South Wales, tennis New South Wales, bowls, New South Wales, golf New South Wales, surf, life saving New South Wales and sport New South Wales. It comes following revelations on this program. A number of sites in our subject to indigenous land claims, including Bondi bowling club, Bondi iceburgs, Tathra Beach Country Club and club Rose Bay. The place set up by Justin Hemmys not so long ago. And the group of organisations is calling on the New South Wales government to urgently step in. Rebecca Riant is the CEO of clubs, New South Wales. She's live in our studio right now. Rebecca, good morning to you. Good morning, Ben. How are you? Good. You guys have got a lot of skin in the game when it comes to properties on Crown land. How many would you have all up to you? We do. We have 273 member clubs in New South Wales that operate on Crown land.

1:05:19Many of those have operated for decades, if not centuries, and have had and still enjoy very long Crown land leases. Although this issue, as you've really well articulated over the last couple of days that you've been covering, it really negatively impacts their ability to continue operating with confidence and invest in their sites. And employ people and provide a manatee for community. Because this doesn't just have uncertainty for the clubs facing land claims. It's for any club on Crown land, all 273 of them. That's right. Yeah, and we're hearing this week that there are 44,000 land claims on foot in New South Wales, which I mean, it's crazy. We've seen what's happened when they have been resolved. Wavid and Bolin Club has been handed to the Metropolitan Aboriginal Land Council. It's sitting empty. A local tenor centre in Narenburn, whose operators are set to be evicted from the site. I'm catching up with them in Nathan Moran from the Metropolitan Aboriginal Land Council tomorrow. To see if we can strike some agreement. That's happening off air, by the way. And the Pattington Bolin Club is now in the hands of the LARP Arruz Local Aboriginal Land Council.

1:06:21So we've seen what happens when it's handed over. Sometimes the site sit there empty gathering cobwebs. That's right. Patto Bollow is an iconic site. I remember doing barefoot bowls there, and it's a magical location. And yes, so that site was lost. And so we're really concerned about the other 273 member clubs that are on Crownland and the prospects that they'll have in terms of land claims over those sites. Bondi Bolin Club is one of them? 100%. Yeah, Bondi Icebergs. Club Rose Bay, because that's one of your sites as well. Absolutely. Club Rose Bay is still a registered club in New South Wales, operating as a not-for-profit. And do you find it interesting that with Club Rose Bay, it's been sitting there for a long, long time and then you guys team up with Justin Hemmys. It becomes the it place to go in Sydney. And all of a sudden in February this year, land claim. Well, it is curious, yes. And Bondi Icebergs is that unused because Crownland that's unused is supposed to be available for application when it comes to land claims? How did the rules of engagement change so dramatically when they're going after the places to be in Sydney like Bondi Icebergs and Club Rose Bay?

1:07:30As opposed to unused Crownland. It's clearly not unused. It's a site that is very, very well used and very popular and has recently actually had quite a reasonable amount of investment in that registered club on that site. And it is a bit of a legal technicality, a loophole, if you like, where claims are being made that the sites for technical reasons aren't being used appropriately in accordance with those Crownland leases. And we would absolutely urge the men's labour government and fully support the move by Steve Kampa, who's the Minister for Lands, to make the amendments that are necessary. Clearly they have bipartisan support. We're looking for them to be passed with urgency. You're making this announcement today with tennis NSW, Bowls NSW, Golf NSW, Sir Flifestaving NSW and Sports NSW. And what's the main message in that announcement coming out today? The main message is please give these clubs certainty to continue to operate in accordance with the existing long-term leases. They've been providing a amenity for the local community for years, for decades.

1:08:33Wish to continue doing so with certainty and they want to invest in the upkeep to continue providing that amenity. These 273 or so clubs on Crownland and New South Wales have about 860,000 members. So the impact is really... Whoa, whoa, whoa, 860,000. Correct. So on our way to a million members who could be impacted, and it's easy for people to say, well, not all of these locations are facing land claims, but you're going to be reluctant to invest too heavily in them when you know that this could be a possibility. So yeah, go on. Yeah, so 860,000 members impacted. And many of these sites, at least half of those member sites, those 273 sites, have 10 or less employees. So they're very much community oriented. They're very much community run, often run by volunteers. These are not enormous big corporate sites. Some are that you've called out, that are very popular, iconic, you know, tourist destinations. But many of these are really small community run venues that frankly can't afford these significant legal bills to be going to court for years, battling these land claims.

1:09:41They're also social hubs for communities, and they become in some cases in the middle of natural disasters evacuation centres. Absolutely. Destinations for refuge. So we need to protect them at all costs. So Steve Camper says he's going to be introducing legislation to try and sort it out and you'll be encouraging him to do that as soon as possible. 100% supportive. We've written to the government with our support. Clubs New South Wales is the peak industry body, 100% supportive and really thrilled to hear you carry Kelly Slion again on this morning, suggesting that they would be able to do that. So I'm just going to say that they would provide bipartisan support for these amendments. It would also help if the land council showed a little bit of common sense in what addresses their targeting because when you've got 44,000 plus unresolved land claims sitting on the minister's desk somewhere gathering dust, wouldn't that tell you that we've got too many in the system already and chances are this is not going to be approved? It certainly does indicate that some of them have been sitting there for decades and that just creates this perpetual uncertainty and lack of investment in social amenity in these community hubs.

1:10:45And we want to see the vile lifted to understand exactly what how many are impacted and what the process is going to be to work through the system. Yeah golf clubs, tennis clubs, bowling clubs and New South Wales clubs that are at the heart of our community. We appreciate you coming in this morning and we'll be hearing about that today through clubs, New South Wales, tennis, New South Wales, Bowls, New South Wales, Surf Life Saving, New South Wales, Sport, New South Wales and Golf, New South Wales. They're all lining up to say the same thing. Parliament must protect community and sporting organisations on Crown Land. Rebecca Rihant, the CEO of clubs, New South Wales, always good to catch up. Thanks Ben. You're listening to Ben Fordham on 2GB. Let's talk land claims with James who wants to have a chat about it on 1-3-1-873. Go right ahead James. Good morning Ben, how are you? Good, man. There is no rain. I inherited the house from my mother and father about five, ten years ago.

1:11:49And since then the land value has gone up. And the... I've got to pay $11,000 a year land tax, $4,000 a year rates and say $2,000 a year rates. So I know these $44,000 properties that the Aboriginal land client people own. Are they paying rates and land tax on these sites? The question, James, I should just clarify, the $44,000 have not been handed over to Aboriginal land councils. The $44,000 figure is the number of outstanding Aboriginal land claims. But on the question of land tax, we do have the Minister with us in studio tomorrow, Steve Carper. So I'll have that question answered then. Right now we're coming up to $8.30 and Transurbans traffic team tell us drivers are saving up to 27 minutes using the M7 from Campbelltown, Deweyston Creek. Transurbans operator of linked Sydney's weather partly cloudy a possible morning shower, 73% humidity, 12 degrees on the coast, 14 in Sydney's west, a top today of 19.

1:12:59Like what you're hearing? Make sure you've subscribed to Ben Fordon. Here's a number that will make you sit up. Aussies do 31 billion hours of unpaid work every year, cooking, cleaning, looking after the kids. And that's more than every single paid industry combined. It's nine times bigger than health care, 14 times the size of construction. One economist puts it this way, Australia's biggest industry has no payroll. On average, women are doing eight hours more unpaid work every week compared to men. So that's basically an extra work day and it gets harder when children are involved. In the first year of a child's life, mums out about 53 hours of unpaid work a week. Dad's about 15. Mums are also copying most of the mental load too, remembering school commitments, sports days and appointments. In dollar terms, one study puts the value of all of this unpaid work at $688 billion.

1:14:02That's about one third of the economy and researchers estimate that some women are doing about $40,000 worth of unpaid labour a year. Let that sink in. Mark Levy's with me right now to preview mornings. Good morning. Morning, do you, Ben? You're giving your mate Roger the dog a big pat there. Roger loves you, I think, Levy. Well, I've got to thank you, Ben. You walked into the office early this morning and gave me a little pencil case and I thought, oh, this is like a little brown paper bag payment. What have I done? Talked him up or something. But it was a couple of treats for Roger because he pops into visit occasionally. When he's had enough of the breakfast team, he just comes and checks on his mate, Levy. So yeah, we're great mates, Roger and I. And there's another dog muscling in on Roger's territory. Oh, yeah, I've seen that. Greg Burns is a good dog, Shirley. Our content manager's brought in his puppy dog, Shirley. But I'm rock-solid with your man, Roger. Good man. What are you doing after night? She, Lambie, hasn't done a lot of interviews lately. She's back on deck in the Senate and she's across what we've been saying in respect of veterans. So she's keen to jump on the line and have a chat to us this morning.

1:15:04So looking forward to catching up with Jackie Lambie as we continue the campaign to scrap the cap. And we want to check in with young Dusty who's been walking from country, New South Wales to Canberra to meet with the Prime Minister around mental health and youth, some of the issues facing younger Australians in the bush. We'll check in with Dusty's mum and little wings who is raising money for as well. Good on you, Dusty. We'll be listening out for Dusty with Mark Levy after 9 o'clock and we'll talk to you soon. Thank you, Benny. Mark Levy right there and Cam is on the line. Cam, we want to give you $2,000 Cam. Does that sound good to you? Yeah, I have a lot of bills to pay. All right. Can you confirm the four code words you need to win the money? Streaming, rabbit holes, front tray and fortune. You've got the doe. You've got the doe mate. $2,000 coming your way. Hang on right there and we'll get it to you. And I'm going to give you the code word now for your chance to win tomorrow. The code word you need for tomorrow is Queen. Queen is the code word you need.

1:16:06Q, U, E, E, N. Queen is the code word for tomorrow. You need all four for your chance to win the cash. So good luck and keep on listening. Sydney's best breakfast. Two GB. Well, this is an absolute joke. A teenage gangster has been charged on 94 separate occasions, but he's never been convicted. Police are furious at the soft sentencing of this teenager and his co-accused. Both of them are only 15. And they've been charged after a shooting where bullets were sprayed into the wrong home in Marylands in Sydney. One of the teens also has been charged over a second shooting in Guilford West in Sydney. A teen involved in both shootings has pleaded guilty to a reduced number of charges. He's received a sentence of 24 months in youth detention, but with time served, he walked free on the same day with no conviction recorded. The 15-year-old involved in the Marylands shooting was also involved in a separate stabbing.

1:17:10He's pleaded guilty to a reduced number of charges. He's received a sentence of 30 months in a youth centre. The teenager will be due for release over coming weeks. And what about this? For the 94th time in his life, no conviction has been recorded. And the daily telegraph features a senior police source today saying, These kids are hard and criminals at the age of 15 or 16. They're exceptionally violent and desensitized to violence. It comes as Chris Minnes announces new laws aimed at cracking down on crime gangs. Teenagers recruited to carry out shootings and fire bombings will be prosecuted as adults. And it sounds like we're following the lead from Queensland. They introduced a policy called adult crime adult time. And the Queensland government says it's reduced the number of crimes involving young people. But what hope are we fixing this crisis when courts fail to do the job they're supposed to do?

1:18:10They're supposed to punish people who refuse to play by the rules and put others in danger. And these teenage gangsters are getting away with it. And one of them is fronted up to court on 94 occasions and has never ever been convicted. Has he got a notch up a century? Is that what it takes when he commits 100 crimes allegedly? Do we then wake up and realise we've got to teach this so called key to lesson? You're listening to Sydney's best breakfast. And now the US report. Harley-Carns on the line from the US and this is one of the biggest cases in America at the moment. The reporters are rallying behind an accused triple murderer more than $1.5 million has been donated to Lindsey Clancy. But you need to understand what she did. Her high profile murder trial has ended in a hung jury after she was accused of killing her three young children. Harley-Carns, good morning.

1:19:12She definitely killed her three children. I mean, that's not really a dispute. She admitted that. The question was why did she do it? And Lindsey Clancy had claimed or a defensive claim that it was the most part of psychosis. She was all upset because she had a baby, the third baby, who she's also strangled. And so there are an awful lot of women out there who believe that that's a valid defense. Of course, the prosecution said, nah, it's nonsense. They said it was way too much premeditation. Way too much preparation went into killing them. Way too much research into ways of killing the children, things like that. So they wanted to put her away. The jury couldn't make up its mind. And as you say, an awful lot of people have sent money to her to a GoFundMe page. Now, here's the interesting part about the GoFundMe page. It's not really for her or not set up that way anyway.

1:20:13It was set up for her parents who don't have a lot of money who have mortgage their own done everything they can. And they've tried to be there for her every day and they will be able to afford to do that forever. So if there's another trial and that sort of thing, the fund is actually set up to be sure to cover the expenses of the parents. What it probably also is an indirect way of supporting lending herself. So it's a complicated situation. And there are probably more detractors than there are supporters. But detractors can't take money away from her. Supporters can send money. When you have a look at it, I mean, terrible whatever she was going through health wise. But there are three innocent children that lost their lives. And it's amazing that people would be sending her or her family millions of dollars. Harley, I want to talk about valet parking. When you drop off your $90,000 BmW, you hope it's going to be there when you're ready to leave, right?

1:21:16Well, yeah, except that I'm looking at it a little bit differently. I'm thinking, wow, I'm pretty convincing. I'm not tall enough to be an NBA player. But you know, there's some pretty fancy cars in some of these fancy hotel parking garages. And so I'm thinking maybe, maybe I could take a page from this guy. This guy looked like an NBA player, I guess he's tall and skinny anyway. And he claimed to be an NBA player. Said he had multiple cars in the valet parking garage. And he needed his BMW. And X5 worth about 90 grand. And of course, the hotel valet went and got it for it. It was at the highest region in Savannah. And it worked. Well, it turns out he had what he actually had parked there was an equally nice Audi A5. It was also stolen, same sort of deal from a different hotel. So evidently, the guy goes from hotel to hotel. He stays there and he puts his car in and he gets somebody else's car to leave.

1:22:18He's not been caught yet. And there's no telling what he's driving now or where he parked the beamer. Although, I figured he got a hotel valet to hide it for it. That's a parking, I'm sorry, not hiding. I've got a feeling that what who guys running the valet will be double checking from now on, Holly. You can bet on it. I bet the alert went out. They said, listen, you've got some devil heads. Pay attention. I do a double check. And look for the guy who looks like an NBA player, but he's not. We'll talk to you tomorrow. It's back to light. I'll see you later. Harley on the line from the United States. Like what you're hearing? Make sure you've subscribed to Ben Fordon. This is good news. The final member of a multi-million dollar NDIS fraud ring has been jailed. Moar, Ali, Muhammad Salam. He's the sixth and final offender to face justice from this group.

1:23:21He's been sentenced to four years behind bars. He's been found guilty of two counts of dishonestly obtaining a gain from the Commonwealth. He's also guilty of one count of dealing with proceeds of crime. The 37-year-old has been ordered to repay $30,000. He'll be eligible for parole after serving two years and four months in jail. It's the last sentencing as part of an investigation into a criminal syndicate that defrauded the NDIS. The group also made false claims for GST refunds to the tax office. They were busted five years ago in a series of raids in Western Sydney. Authorities seized $600,000 in cash, eight kilos of gold bullion, $600,000 worth of crypto, as well as watches and luxury cars. The UK report, Kelly Country's expert tailors can create the perfect custom-made suit or trouser at an affordable price. Book a fitting online at KellyCountry.com.au King Charles has confirmed that Harry and Meghan will not resume royal duties.

1:24:26This is despite Harry and Meghan moving back to the UK. Adam Gilchrist, good morning. Hi, Ben. Yeah, they came back a couple of weeks ago. Of course, we were talking about it then, weren't we? And they haven't really done anything high profile yet. But the thought is they might be about to begin to do some public engagements and maybe undertake some jobs here and there and do some representatives appearances. And what this establishes is not really, I think, meant to be a slap in the face to Harry and Meghan. But it establishes to all sorts of people through media, social media, government departments, military officials, Lord Lieutenant, all those who sort of look after that kind of side of things, that they are not there for working royals, that the agreement made six years ago is still in place. They are not his and her royal highness, that Archie and Lillipet are not prince and princess, that the status quo remains from six years ago. I guess this is just telling everyone that they can do their own thing, but it is their own thing.

1:25:26It's not on behalf of the royal family. Was it necessary or was it a slap in the face? I'm not sure really. Maybe there was an element of slap in the face about it, but this is a lesser sent on behalf of King Charles, trying to essentially establish what is what. I'm intrigued at the relationship and whether they're going to be catching up at some point and tell me about an amazing display of sportsmanship during a car race. Yeah, this is extraordinary. Of course, the pictures are out there because this happened as you say during a race in China, a GT race in which Oli Milroy, this British driver, is shunted by two cars at the same time. One comes in, one side, one comes in the other and his car bursts into flames and pour Oli's inside. The flames are shooting out, the smoke is blowing out. It is frightening and awful to see in many ways, until a rival driver, a Dutchman called Lillipet Khartog, pulls up in his car alongside, leaps out with a fire extinguisher, immediately starts trying to put out the flames.

1:26:30As he's doing it, the flames and the smoke are blowing out and then he pulls Oli out of the wreckage of the car and saves his life. Now, poor old Oli Milroy is not in the best of conditions in hospital, he's alive, he's fine, he's had surgery, but he's got a broken collarbone and a lot of problems with his right hand and his ribs and his gallblets, the metal plating in it, but as Oli's wife is saying, thank you, Loic, but for you, my husband would not be around. It is an extraordinary act given that they are of course our competitors. I guess you could say he was doing the right thing with the Dutch driver, but I think he went above and beyond and he may well have saved Oli's life in the course of that. In a situation like that, they often have a one-track mind, but he saw someone else in trouble and stepped in and helped out and if he didn't, there's a chance that Oli wouldn't be with us. A great story and well done, thanks Adam. Adam Gilchrist on the line from London. Back home, we've got an email here from Christine, Dear Radio Team, I'm reaching out because I believe what's happening at my daughter's school raises a much bigger question about how seriously we actually take the physical and mental well-being of our children.

1:27:41We constantly tell kids to get off their screens, get outside, exercise and make friends and join a team and find something they're passionate about. A group of girls aged 10 to 12 at my daughter's school did exactly that. They found soccer, they found friendships, they found confidence, but now the school's principal has stopped the girls' soccer team from training before school. With the reason given that allowing them to train in the morning is discriminatory towards other children who don't get the same opportunity. As a parent, I genuinely struggle to understand this reasoning. These aren't children asking for some extravagant privilege. These are young girls willing to arrive at school early to be physically active, to learn teamwork, develop their skills, build friendships and do something positive for their physical and mental well-being. The school also has other activities that operate in the morning, including early birds. When there are too many children wanting to participate, numbers can be limited and some children unfortunately miss out.

1:28:41If participation can be managed with other morning activities, why can't a fair and reasonable system be put in place for soccer? These girls decided to stand up for something they care deeply about. Children aged 10 to 12 sat down and wrote handwritten letters to the principal explaining what soccer means to them, how they feel and why they want their children to be active. They feel and why they want their morning training back. They have not received a response or even an acknowledgement of those letters. The girls were also supposed to have a meeting with the principal. That's now been canceled twice. Soccer helped my daughter make friends. It built her confidence. It gave her something to look forward to. It started because one teacher encouraged a child who lacked confidence to step outside her comfort zone and become part of a team. That's exactly what we should be encouraging in our schools. These girls have done all of those things. They joined a team and as parents we spend years trying to encourage our children to find healthy outlets to build good friendships and discover something that makes them feel confident and happy.

1:29:43This is bigger than soccer. It's about showing our children that their well-being matters, their feelings matter, and most importantly their voices matter. Kind regards. Christine. Christine, if you want to share with me the name of the school, I'm more than happy to make representations to the principal. Like what you're hearing? Subscribe to the Benfordham Live podcast through Apple and Spotify. Now, this is interesting electric vehicles are for the first time out selling petrol and diesel ones. More than 27,000 battery electric vehicles have been sold in the last month. That represents nearly a quarter of the overall market combined with hybrids. EVs now account for more than half of car sales. And during the pandemic, Aussies turned to cheaper cars made in China. Chinese brands are now dominating the top 10 new cars sold. The popular Chinese brands include BYD, Gile, Cherry, and GYM.

1:30:45The only legacy brands in the top 10, Toyota, Ford, and Isuzu. And under Australia's free trade agreement with China, there are no tariffs on Chinese vehicles entering the country. They become very popular. And you can spot them all over Sydney's roads. And a Sydney woman's funeral has entered the history books. She's become the first person in Australia to be laid to rest in a mushroom coffin. Carolyn has been buried at Springwood Cemetery in the Blue Mountains. The woman in her 70s had one wish after her death. She wanted to be buried inside a coffin, grown from mushrooms. The new technology has been created in the Netherlands. The coffins are grown in seven days in a climate controlled room. 45 days after a person is buried, the coffin becomes part of the soil and helps nourish the environment. Carolyn's husband Donald says it feels very true to who she was. She can still do something for others while giving something back to nature.

1:31:47Grace Fjurell's director Asher Dulley says sustainable funerals are becoming more common. She says five years ago, very few families were asking these questions. But she's told the city morning herald today, we're regularly speaking with people who want a farewell that reflects how someone lived their life. Families are looking for options that are personal, meaningful and environmentally responsible. So there's an idea for you. If you so choose, you can be buried in a mushroom coffin. Maybe something for Aaron Patterson to consider one day. Just a little bit of history repeating. And now on Ben Fordham Live on this day. Today is the 8th of September. It was on this day in 2022. We lost Queen Elizabeth II. Her Majesty passed away at the age of 96. Her reign lasted for almost 71 years.

1:32:58In 1986, the Oprah Winfrey show aired for the first time. This was our quiz question in the show ran for 25 seasons. In 2006, we lost the legendary Aussie race car driver Peter Brock. He was 61 when he passed away. In 1966, the first Star Trek series premiered. Space, the final frontier. The franchise has been running for nearly 60 years. It's time for some happy birthday. The American singer Pink is 47. I'm still a rock star. I got my rock wheels and I'm here. Businessman Lockland Murdoch is 55 and James Packer is 59. Born on the same day, just a few years apart.

1:34:03And on this day in 1984, Stevie Wonder went number one in the UK for the first time. I just called to say I love you. It first featured in the 1984 film The Woman in Red. It all happened on this day, the 8th of September. And that's the podcast for today. The highlights of today's show. And we will be back again to do it all again before you know it. Now could you be so kind as to leave a rating on our podcast? Maybe a comment. If you want to give us five stars, you can give us five stars. I'm not trying to encourage you how to rate the program. But we'd love to see that. And do we check? I'd love to say that we don't. But occasionally we have a little bit of a look. So if you want to give us a rating. If you want to give us a comment, please do so.

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