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Every NBA legend of today's game! #nba
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Donovan Donovan Donovan. How would you define an NBA legend?
I would say somebody that has great historical value to either his specific era or
To the league's history as a whole
Okay, now with that framework in mind we have to pick every single NBA legend in the league right now
I'm in a name and NBA player you decide which of these categories if it into we are legends
Maybe one day so guys we don't rule out and people ledgers not legends. Nope
Let's try out with the obvious ones. How many legends are clear cut that go on legend side got LeBron, Curry, Kevin Durant
Harden, Kauai, Harden, Kauai, Nicole, Yokech. Yes. Yes. Okay. Those are six. They're honest. Yeah, I'm this
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. So we write those in those seven are the clear cut legends. Okay. Yeah, for sure now we get dicey. Is Luga, don't just already a legend
No, he made like five
Five or six first team all NBA's just tough. Yes, five five in his first six years. He made the NBA finals already
I think I will grant him towards the back end of this of this list a legend in this game. I would say maybe one day
I think I think even if he's not not really because even if he doesn't like go to the final
He's just hard and just puts up these numbers and yeah, he's just hard and if maybe one day sure
I guess so but that's just a time thing but I would I will consider him a legend
I'll consider him as one of the greatest scores ever walk on this planet of a verse. I'll say he's a legend
So you're giving Luke a legend status. Yeah. Yeah, he can I think I think maybe one day if we're being very conservative
It's like hey, we're holding out for the rest of your career
But I do agree that even if there are no like massive accolades after this, then he is just James Harden
Well, I think it for this because there isn't maybe one day if Luga retired today is he a legend. No
I don't think so. He's clearly one day then, right?
Uh, there's only done more than team at my tripping. It's team echo legend. I would say so. No
Now we get into what is legend because the team act is a legend in that he's like super skilled and he's like a legendary player
In part because like what could have been enough for injuries. So he's earned legend status for
His story of who he is, but he's not like a legendary resume
So I were opening door for the doors here for multiple ways to get to legendhood
No, I think I'd rather I'd have definitely Luga as a legend, bro
He's had this the consistency and scoring that he's put up in the numbers are just like
It's uncomfortable like you tell me he's put up 28 since he was 20 years old up until this moment in time where he's averaging 32 game
Yeah, now he's a legend. He has to be he's always finishing towards the top of the MVP ladder
Where she's ever been is like number eight and that was in his the second to last year in Dallas when he went to the finals
He's a legend
So many clutch moments, which is like the definition of legendary. He's done so many legendary things put up 73 fucking points in a game
Legend, I mean listen by that stuff is bam legend
No, that's the second highest score in game and then be a history legend
Bands bit of the finals twice. How many olympias is bam made right legend there maybe once
Put it down. I guess Luga makes his way. It's number eight on our legend status. Okay
Not debatable once it's Paul George a legend. No, no
Nope, classic but not a legend. Yeah, classic player for sure not a legend. I agree classic player. Okay, now we're getting the different different versions here
Is he a classic mixtape player or classic album player? Sure mixtape. So Paul George is definitely nope. Yeah, definitely note. There's no argument for you at all
No, I think the best
That they just hasn't been enough postseason success for Paul George to get up there. Yeah
And I think that it the way that
Last year and this year that he's going out say the second half of his career
It's looking sad. So I'm gonna I'm gonna say he's probably not gonna redeem himself right now. So I'm gonna say no
It's career being a legend
Where's career being falling that
That's a hard one because if he is a legend it'll be for like I said with team act for who he is and what he means to history
In his unique player and all this other stuff outside of just resume then I would say yes
Because and even over because the conversation is always like Kyrie versus Dame
I think Kyrie is more legendary than Dame because of the like most skilled moniker
And so you would kind of give Kyrie that yeah, I think I think I would call Kyrie a legend
Of course like he went to the finals. He was an integral part of that. He's whenever we did see him alone as a lone star
He never reminds like literally anything and that's just not his role at all, but stay on like
You never literally never about to do literally anything
But he's so important to him be a history. We literally like we're gonna tell stories about him stories
Have been told about him already. There's so many like
Knees things that he just owns in the MDA
So I guess you'd like to status people with how stories about you in 30 years. I think it's a part of me
He's okay. He also hit one of the most important shots in NBA history
Yeah, okay, so you're
You're like urban legend status as being a larger-than-life figure can propel you even though the resume isn't quite good
Exactly. That's what gets him in. That's what gets us. So it was Damian Lillard a resume. I mean, well, it's Damian Lillard a legend
Maybe one day. Yeah, I think he goes back and forth maybe one day
I think people will be way quicker to forget about Dame than Kyrie
What is Damian Lillard gonna do post a kill? He said earn himself in the legend status. I'm about to say I think his legacy's already made
Yeah, if you think he's out of the no the no no
Okay, Damian Lillard to the no blitz sucks. I wish it sucks
But he never went to the finals at all. There's
What's the most like historic thing that he did? It's the bubble shit
Well, he's had a lot of historic, but he had a lot of moments individual moments
Yeah, put up like 70 over 70 in a game as well and like it's fine to be a legendary individual player when your team isn't good enough
Like that's not I want to put them in legend, but
Best blazer of all time not a legend. Well, that's not even guaranteed
You will like to say that because we're young, but like Clyde Drexler is like the same resume, but he's made the finals
I want to put him in legend, but it's tough
It doesn't it's tough conversation. You can be not a legend. It's gonna be like a Hall of Famer
I say maybe have have we ever seen a player in a history like get pushed into legendary status after like using my playing yes
Oh, he's a not playing you said. Yeah. Oh, no, I guess not. Yeah, my bad. I'm just in trouble today
I guess not I guess his story is probably written for the most part
I want to put him in legendary though because it just feels like I think if you look at his resume compared to Kyrie like it's way better
It arguably better and even like memorable wise. I mean, thank God some moments
And the problem is Kyrie's a stretch and we're doing that for like
perception
I don't think Kyrie's a stretch actually
And turns to like you said resume. That's what you're saying to a Lillard in terms of resume Kyrie's a mega super duper stretch
But like we said like there's the most skilled moniker. There's how he's referenced by everybody
So like he's earned it for that like urban legend status. Yeah, so I don't know. It's just a hard comparison for this combo. Yeah
Okay, so weird
Jason Tatum
Is Jason Tatum a legend maybe one day he's not he's not ready. If he comes back and reaches the level he's up before at the top five player again
Post Achilles and he's this new symbol for the best injury recovery ever
He'll be legend 100% that's his path. That's his path to being a legend. Yeah, I agree that'll etch them into NBA history for sure
Do we think it's gonna happen?
Yes
Real seriously shut that shit down. Don't know. Okay, Jalen Brown
No, what if he wins finals in VP again? No Z bro come on. Yeah, it's not it's not it's not gonna happen
It's gonna be like a weird blip, but
Well, honestly, there's a little passive if you win finals at VP again, then they get another ring then it's like all right
Now he's just now he's just a guy who's held back by by Jason Tatum politics for his whole career
If he gets another if he gets another finals of VP
It'll be like a legendary funny resume that this guy that is like
And many people's eyes good not great continues to get this crazy achievement like that'll be a legendary dichotomy
Postseason man the pop pitch with two finals MVP. Oh my god. Postseason merchant
That's kind of this is great for pop. I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say no
Come on is it is Jimmy Butler a legend a little bit Jimmy Butler is he a legend
If we call Jimmy Butler, I think we might have to call him a legend, I think I think Jimmy is a
Miami legend
Obviously, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say maybe one day just because obviously you have playoff did play you have playoff Jimmy stuff, but
The because they didn't get a ring. I don't think it's gonna be now. How's maybe one day?
Yeah, I don't think he's gonna talk about his things change
I mean the way you think about people's angels over time. It sounded good. I don't know
It does that that true. Just look. I don't know true. It's true. That's it. That's a dope IG caption
You're not wrong. That's changed
So you think what made him good is gonna you can have that by the way if you want
You think we'll look back favorably under me but they're decades from now. No one's gonna be talking about Jimmy Butler
Sorry, that's okay. You straight. I think people it wasn't straight. It was direct
I think in the same way because honestly when I look at the plus pixels and nose my bad for the straight
When I look at Jimmy Butler's career the thing that I often compare it to is
Chauncey Billips
and I
Chauncey Billips a legend
No, yes
There have been times when people when people have really really big up Chauncey Billips and big Chauncey Billips like yes
If Chauncey's a legend we go have to switch up a lot
I think we need to have the bar. I think I think I know what you're saying. They're like he's a very revered player that has
Chauncey's a Hall of Famer like a lot of these things aren't legends
I'm I'm saying because of Chauncey has like a very very
Small stick. I don't know and like his I think the way that people look at Chauncey Billips is
Is much higher than his actual resume and I think that that's a product of him being a quote-unquote legend
And that's why I think Jimmy Butler can probably get there. I don't think it's solidified
I don't think he's a hard no because the playoff elevating is legitimate
But I think it really just depends on how people talk about him in like 10 years
No, I know exactly what you're saying. I see your point that he is a guy who
I think what you're describing is he's extremely respected
And that can kind of like make him punch above his weight class of accomplishments
Because he's such a respectable guy for what he accomplished gang it out the mud that like that reverence
That'll be around him can make him a legend for extra correctly reasons in the same way as Kyrie
Yeah, and so I don't think it's a hard no
No, it's not a hard no
I agree
I was thinking maybe it's yes. Maybe he is so respected. They'll be a legend for this like
Legendary development story and a guy who's legendary
Like ungifted athletically comparatively and still reach these levels without having long arms fast first step
It doesn't jump that high and still made his way to the final twice
Yeah, like do he's the definition of in a poster boy who get it out the mind
He went to market dude was homeless as a kid dude was like a tweenth overall pick the first round or whatever
Like he has zero odds of anything. He's never had a
He was it's a part of his story
No, it's legendary like it's just funny because it's coming
All right, you know if I can do you believe he might be a legend
Do you believe a legend?
Yeah, Jim go to legend for the greatest get it out the mud story in
The final not once but literally twice, right? There's a historic picture of him back in the 2020 NBA finals
When he was looking crazy no hair cutting on none, right?
And he was like exhausted on the he was exhausted on the sidelines like okay, he might be a legend
Jimmy Butler is a legend for similar who's his tachyrie that they've earned it for the reputation in their respect levels
But if you like Lillard should be legend to though if in that same breath now it's different
I think Lillard is really good and doesn't quite as revered he's very respected, but like
When we talk about that, it's about things like beer than basketball in Lillard's respect level was all about basketball
Okay, so he's just really good. Yeah, I might have to spin back on that later
I think Lillard is very comparable to Paul Georgie actually no wrong because Paul Georg is disrespected by people for person out of reasons
So maybe not a good comparison
Disregard I said that
We already put James Harden in there. We did that already
Is Shay Gildos Alexander a legend absolutely 100% I'm assuming he's gonna win MVP this year
You're already won one of VP last year you were finals last year almost certainly long
He doesn't get hurt soon to be back to back MVP. You told me some last episode was so darned that I didn't think about
But it's like you said it was like three or four straight years where he's been averaging 30
Wildly efficient. Yeah, he's a legend. There's like four players all time out of average 30 for four straight years
So you want to lock it in now? Yes, he is certainly a legend
We should have locked this in yesterday
As soon as he won his his finals last year. He was a legend. Yeah, like it was clearly who's on that path
Now he's about to win an MVP again back to back MVP's get you legend more often than not
Yeah before you're 30. Yeah, you're a legend
If Luca's a legend Shay's a legend 100% yeah
Oh, yeah, he lacked Luca
Damn, yeah, throw it in there Anthony Davis is Anthony Davis a legend. No, come on man. He's not he's a legend
That's a close one
Never did anything's one option getting a ring for the Lakers next to LeBron add you some
Cultural cachet over the decades. I'm sure yeah, but I think the story of his career will be
The disappointment of what could have been more than anything that the injuries help them back
And he never quite hit the best in the world status. We wanted from him. Yeah, he's like a Hall of Famer top 25 player ever
One of the best players ever
But I don't know if we'll ever have the reverence to be a legend
He would be on the same exact like
It's a little bit different towards the end of their career
But you'd be in the exam same as a pathway as in Lillard in terms of you know
No one really expected you to win. Lillard your back court mate was fucking see Jim McCallum
And then the best players that AD had was okay. No, that was a strange
Oh for show
And then and then for AD bro you had the best year of your pelicans career was when you had this gimmick
Max ball style play was wrong dough and he and he was like elevating
Unlock into holiday
Yeah, it's the big man. Give it
No, but he had lost your all in and people who just say oh my god
People are like oh my god. He's really forcing your holiday if only focus on scoring
He doesn't have to pass anymore. Yeah. Yeah, like we would view him in the same light if he never won
But he did at the end of the day. AD is just a legend status and is mostly for perception
I think his resume is
Closed so that thing is a 82 you also look there's like way less full seasons play than you would think
So the all NBA teams aren't as high as you would think just because he was always out because of injury
He never would have DPO white so it was fucking sucks. Yeah, if you're at top 75 players is that automatically make a legend? No, no
I mean technically not a legend. Come on. It technically should make you a legend. I guess whatever the legend bar is for this combo
Is do I have a legend?
Also teetering. I don't know. That's a hard one
Fuck it. Maybe one day
Dwight Howard has become like the name for like virtue signaling. I know ball
Lately, so I think he's becoming a legend by people saying like he was better than you think respect him
He's kind of like earned that role for some reason. So maybe he will be considered a legend
Damn, so we've not been ADS legend
That's how I feel it's gonna be with Dame that's why I wanted to put Dame in maybe it may be one day originally
Yeah, I can see in a couple of years from now like 10 years from now people begin up
Damien or like some Twitter threat or combo or whatever
Is Dramon green a legend? No
One of the greatest defenders of all time multiple time champion integral part Steph Curry's legacy
Yes, and no, can you be a psychic legend? Yes, you can you be a non star psychic legend
No
She made all our teams. I don't know how to quantify that bro. I'm Dennis Rodman. You're right. He did is then is robbing a legend
Yes, different animal. You're a different type of a different reason he's a legend. Yeah, okay
Um, I will consider a legend if I could see him like have the same level of productivity without Steph Curry
I don't I don't think he's a legend for being with Steph Curry. I guess the whole thing
So I don't even care if he's bad next to without Steph Curry
But I'm thinking you I'm but the quick thing is is Dramon green a legend not like it's a Dramon green a Steph Curry a legend
You know, I'm thinking about you sing
I'll say no, okay, if you say he's part of a legendary duo, but himself doesn't count I can understand that at least
But the default he is a transformation. He's one of the most influential defenders in the history
He's a legend. He's a legend. He's a legend. He's a legend. Like he's the only okay, maybe maybe one day
He's I think he's a legend. He's a legend. How many DPO wise does he have like two or three?
I think you know, and he has a Dennis robbing thing of like now
He's like a legendary throwing hands guy. So he has that character. Yeah, he's a legend. Oh, you can tell so many stories about him
He's a legend. Yes, you're right. Cramer agrees a legend. Yes. Yes. This is so gross. Dramon green legendary
Oh, he just has one DPO one. That's crazy. Dramon's a legend. Tatum's not
Let's go. How do you feel about that? I feel a lot of things about this list
Don't worry about it
Uh, Jomeran's a legend. Jelna butler
You hate to be bothered so much. Yeah, it's every right to
Just really go bare a legend stop that. I mean shit
Well, the team will be without him right now
There's so many 51 teams that don't exist without him
Don't ever tell me I really go bang into a book
That's just not
We already have Kevin to round on there
Uh, nobody else from the thunder. Nobody else from the spurs
Is你是 any better you guys think about that gives things a shout as potential legend
Yes, he's done so many legendary things
Play as a legend job like 60 we've really over the floodgates is a dream on green thing
No, that's why I think there's a legend we really also floodgates is Carlton town's a legend fuck no hell no damn hell no shit
Not even close
Damn big catch home big catch home
You know, Bronson
No, let's focus on the maybe one day tab now can jail in Bronson become a legend. Yeah, I think so if
His own opportunity is the problem is he's old if he was on the trajectory of breaking out a little bit younger
And this was like a 26 27 year old season and not close to age 30
As the small guard. It's not super athletic. I could see it. He probably has about three or four more years to become a legend
On the high end two or three more years to become a legend
You better win the finals when New York fast. Yeah, no, I don't think he's gonna be a legend
If he wins a finals he could be a New York legend
The weight of winning a title finals. I think he could be a new. Oh, yes
The weight of winning in New York carries so much them. No, maybe one day. We're having on the maybe
Yeah, having on the maybe for jail in Bronson
Yeah, because the opportunity in front of you specifically as the nicks and what being a ledger for them would mean
They're they're almost equal to the Lakers in terms of what cash ache and happen from winning as a nick 100 percent
It doesn't happen a lot so we don't see it
But that makes it more likely that makes you a legend status someone not on the same line, but
similar Tyrese Halberton
Could he be like trumping his way and so I just had his one day or maybe I don't know
He's close enough to warrant being on you like anything's possible with these young guys, but I don't know like he's the the path is
Incleared to me he had he had the legendary run and then a legendary unfortunate moment with the Achilles
So now it's kind of on the same tenting thing. We're like if he comes back and gives back to another finals
I think he could be legendary. Okay, if he has a comeback the comeback can make him legendary
Okay, so the opportunity is granted to him by having a terrible injury at the precipice of his greatest moment. Yeah, how old is he?
Oh, he's
Five 26 maybe some like that. Yeah, not that old. Okay, something that a lot of people debate is Derek Rose a legend
I wasn't counting including him because it's not the league anymore, but we definitely can
Yes, Derek Rose a legend. He's a legendary Chicago athlete for sure. Yeah, he's a goat in Chicago outside of Michael Jordan
As far as we speak unless she twists his ankle. He is still the youngest MVP ever
Well, Shazen goes up and do with the youngest MVP. Well, if one B. Yeah, yeah, yeah, one B. Yeah, okay. I was like what do you mean, but I'm confused yeah
Okay, so yeah youngest MVP is quite legendary
He's a legendary like he's more legendary. What if yeah, I think at this point. It's more Chicago legend
Not NBA legend. He's a legendary NBA character, but not a legendary career. Okay, I would say no for for D-Rose right now
MVP's insane though. I know, but it does that a lot to go after
Is every MVP a legend?
Kind of have to be yes, I think most of the P's are like happy we won by legends. Yeah. Okay. Oh Russell Westberg is Russell Westberg a legend. Yes
He is a legend a hundred percent. Yes, okay
Yeah, Russell is a legend. He's now legendary greatest carry job MVP to people 100 percent 100 percent. Yeah
Like when it comes to thinking about athletic insane athletic point guards
Like you don't go too far on that list without getting to Russell Westberg. He's easily awarded one or two of all time or that category
legendary Chris Paul
Yes
Yes, okay, this is a hesitation. What's going on here Chris Paul's a legend. Yes. My goodness. Everybody shut down. What the hell? He's looked at me. Yes. Yeah, it's straight
He's a legend. He's a legend. Chris Paul's a legend. Okay. We have 14 legends in the NBA right now
Is there a 15th remissing
Nobody from the Grizzlies, nobody from the jazz number from the Kings. Can I have the Edwards one day be a legend?
Yes, one day. Yes, the second that they go ahead and move Minnesota so that you some conference. He's gonna go
He's gonna make the final so many times
We're bearing the lead here. He's on the way though. Hey my bad my bad for not for not saying his name faster. Yeah
Is Victor woman. Yeah, I'm already a legend in some ways maybe one day
If Victor woman you know what's funny if you got a catastrophic injury retired today
I think he'd be kind of like an urban legend based on like how unique he was and how singly powerful of a defender
He was
Not the conversation we're putting on actually on there
But there would be some hilarious argument for it after just three years
So it's not seems maybe maybe one. That's so disrespectful to AD
He's done everything for you right now and you're catering and you're boxing for fucking Wendy right now
That's so funny. I need to do anything and everything still doesn't matter. That's funny when he's already way more legendary
I love AD one of my favorite players ever. I learned because I was a Lakers fans you can't be I love Anthony Davis
Wendy is so much more legendary
That's crazy like what what legendary means to people
So much more legendary than AD
Legend lately
When he's when he's such a unique case that like to be this level of prospect big up this much and be this good so fast like
There is something legendary to the expectations he has. I got to see one
Yeah, when he's the clearest maybe one day. Yeah, remove them. Maybe one day. He'll be a legend. Yeah, for sure
It'll be baffling if he's not a legend
So the real question is what when at what age will he become a legend?
How many more years until when because I think this year when they win the title
If they win the title they make the finals this year is he a legend. Yes, 100% not I think you have to win it
Okay, I think you have to win if you've got to play 65 games. He's good
If he wins DPO Y and
Goal to the finals. I think you're like 22 years old. Yeah, you're a legend. Is he 21 or 22? He's 22
Yeah, yeah, he's 22 DPO I take your team the finals when you weren't supposed to be that good right away
Wait, he was pretty legendary. No one thought he was gonna do that shit at all. He's a legend and it'll probably be top five in MVP ballot first team
You're a legend. Oh, that'd be legendary, but yeah, he's gonna be a finalist gonna be top three
Damn, that'd be pretty fucking legendary. That's crazy. Joel and beat is he our last legend on here. Oh
Again MVP
Drill and beat is clearly a legend. Yeah, better case and heroes. Yeah, he's a legend. Yeah, Joel and beat is absolutely a legend
Bezos, what's on it be falls a fucking haters and throw it any Eastern conference player he just hates on
I feel like if AD is an a legend. How is him be because he was way better at his peak
He was an MVP. He's the best player in the world for a period of time him in the Koliakish was a 1a1b conversation for a period of time
Jimmy and he Davis never reached that. I would never 1b
It absolutely. I mean, we oh, I'm obviously gonna prefer in a Koliakish
But you can perfectly understand why they're equal footing in terms of people's eyes
Station absolutely. Yeah, because it would be and be what is defectively to it was it was 1b
Yeah, or two. Let's say two I guess if you want to say not to listen seconds
They were in the combo is the best player in the world
AD never reset 2020 AD. No, no, I mean for the bubble. He was that if we did the jumps you knew he was crazy
2020 bubble AD was legendary for sure. I wouldn't pop you pop. I got to see a little more times outside the bubble
I'm happy with respect and even being more as a good list out of no Larry's
Okay
Fucking Celtic fans. Come on. You just Mike. No lyrics unplugged chords. No Larry
I think it's a relationship with League right now. All right
15 soon to be 20
Tough tough list
I feel better we put in bead here now that I'm like looking at damn blurred and AD and pause wards
I didn't pause was I know why I meant to do
Yeah, I think if you if you're best in the world caliber for a four-year stretch, you're probably a legend
That's kind of the baseline. It's kind of the Luca thing where like if you are in the tier one of players in League for a four-year stretch
You're probably a legend
What's the four-year stretch for Luca? Where is tier one?
The last four years of his maverick career when he was first email NBA and people considered him at that level
Actually, I he you right he is I guess if we're gonna get real specific with the tiers
He's like top of second tier because he was never in beat in yokus level
But I think some a lot of people consider that to be a wider tier where I think which is those two in y'allness in cup
I wouldn't put Luca here. I would have said maybe one day. I would have said he's real close
Okay
And that's our religion tier. I feel good about this. He got no MVP's
Yeah, I think Lucas like one one accomplishment away from a religion. Yeah, he's beer grown. Oh my god
I didn't say all that beer girl. I did not say all that
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