What is there to take from the Sabres loss against Boston

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It's Mike Shope and the Bulldog.

The camp of A-rays.

They're defunct.

Hey, they don't exist anymore.

They don't exist anymore.

I just decided today, we should make a call,

let them know, but I just decided there.

I would rather watch the painting guy.

Who's the painting guy?

Bob Ross.

I'd rather watch Bob Ross than watch

my favorite baseball team play in Tampa.

It's Mike Shope and the Bulldog.

What a matchup.

It is bracket season.

What a matchup.

Your favorite team playing a game in Tampa

or Bob Ross painting a lake and a mountain.

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Give me the lake.

What if it's opening day?

Give me the lake.

You still want the lake?

An opening day?

I think opening day, I might make an exception.

The Red Sox were in Tampa and I could find my way

to the game somehow.

It's on a channel that I'm aware of and have

and don't have to get a code sent to my phone.

Then it's a big F.

Right, I know.

Then I would make an exception for opening.

First game of the year, sure.

I'll hang out and watch your game

and your crappy, lousy, don't ballpark with the walkways.

I'm driving home from the Sabers game

and turn on Yankees Giants on MLB Radio

because I'm that cool.

It's John Miller, which was great.

Yeah, I haven't heard him in a long time.

I didn't know that I'd ever hear John Miller again.

I wasn't sure if he was still working

and two different guys, at least two different times.

Very carefully to pimp tickets for their next game.

I think they're reading from the same scripts, right?

I mean, these are team employees.

As much as I like John Miller, he's a team employee.

It's opening day tomorrow.

This was not opening.

The seven-nothing loss we all just endured

for the clients was not opening day.

Friday, they don't play today.

Friday is opening day because that was opening night.

And I don't think you can get away with that.

Oh, good. They did that thing where they played a game

and then you're all excited for the season to begin

and there's 162 games

that they take the next day off.

Yes. The Yankees and Giants are not playing today,

but they insistently called tomorrow's game

numerous times opening day.

And I don't think you can do that.

I think there's one opening day.

And if it's at night, it's at night.

Mm-hmm.

That's opening day.

Yes.

I mean, they tried opening week, right?

The NFL did that.

Kick off week or kick off weekend.

Maybe they still do that.

I don't know.

I don't think, I don't think that's, that's good enough.

No, it's not opening day.

I think you can say this is lame for opening day.

There should be more than one game on opening day.

Opening day should still be in Cincinnati at 1 p.m.

or whatever old guy yells at cloud thing

you want to attach to this.

He keep going if you want.

But I don't think you can say this is an opening day.

It's the first game of the season.

Even if it's being played when it's dark out,

it's opening day.

It's the first game of the year.

I myself only consider it opening day

if John Kibbler is the home played umpire.

Otherwise, it's not, it's not enough.

Not, not good enough.

It's not legitimate enough.

Bob Ross died 31 years ago.

You know, it's funny.

That's an old clip, but it's not that old.

No, it's not.

He was long dead before we met.

Sure, Ross.

So the painting guy was in the ground

at the time of that little conversation.

I didn't, uh, you know, I didn't, uh,

1995.

I really didn't know.

Yeah, but he has transcended.

Sure.

Everybody knows who you know.

Well, he's alive.

Even kids know who you mean.

He's alive in my heart.

I'm saying, yeah, Bob Ross.

Um, well, let's talk about with baseball starting

and everything else.

Can we do the Sabers game up top here, though?

I was at the game, which is different than watching it

because you don't really have somebody telling you

what maybe you missed.

The time goal, the winning goal.

Talk to me, uh, I think there's definitely room

to criticize the goalie on the winning goal.

One right through him.

Yeah, from the circle.

Yeah, I mean, the guy was in his way.

I was in all alone.

That's what I thought.

He was in all alone, but it went.

He was, well, he wasn't, you know, it was on a breakaway.

No, that's, well, right, but he was, I mean, he was,

that no one was going to check him.

The guy could have, I mean, don't, could have come

right to the net.

The kind of like, um, who had this chance,

a Saber had a chance to walk right in

and he tried to pass in Paul.

Oh, awesome.

I think maybe could have walked.

Anyway, doesn't last night.

No, no, no, in a game.

It's the same kind of thing where it's not a breakaway,

but there's nobody you could just go.

Anyway, but he shoots it probably because he sees how

Luke and his coming over.

I think he's late coming over.

It's Pasternak, which you've got to respect on the other side.

On the other side.

Pasternak's got the puck.

So Luke and he cannot cheat, right?

But everybody is convert, you know,

he's got to talk his cheating leaves Zaka wide open.

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But his legs are, he's just, the five hole is wide open,

on the play.

And I can't speak to directly how much it is to ask the goalie

to move over that quickly and be sealed up there.

But I feel like you see guys do it.

He just, he just left the guy too much, too much to,

it wasn't like he just squeaked through.

Like there was a huge hole there.

The way he came over.

It was not fundamentally sound coming over, I would say.

I just wanted to ask this, about three on three.

Possession being everything in three on three.

Is Luke and in maybe thinking about what to do with the puck

after the shot?

I mean, he's, he's a pretty good example for this to my eyes,

just during the course of regular play.

And maybe this is all goalies now.

He's putting the puck where he wants to put it.

If he can, on a rebound, you know, on a save.

He often, he'll put the puck in the corner.

I thought last night a few times, he was really good

at how to play the puck.

A puck came in to the left of the net and instead of just sort of like

leaving it or bumping it to the corner,

he made the decision to come out of his crease and play it and clear it.

And that looked like the right decision.

He was successful in that.

There were a few of those in this game.

I think it's a maybe a strong area for him.

I didn't check the box score, but didn't.

If he didn't get an assist, I'm not sure why,

maybe because a Boston player ended up with the puck.

The Benson goal is him.

I don't know.

He throws that puck right up the wall.

I don't think it touches another saber,

but again, maybe a Bruin defender gets it and then Benson struts him and whatever.

Anyway, he made the play to break Benson.

Fine. Yeah, I thought he had a,

yeah, he was impressive in that area.

When it's three on three and it's not a super high danger shot.

You know, like, okay, well, he's late.

If he's late, five-fold, then okay.

What does he want to do with the puck on that?

If he's assuming he's going to be able to stop it from there.

I mean, that's, I don't know.

Does he want to, he doesn't want to freeze it, right?

I think probably not because you would have a chance to swing back the other way pretty quickly,

maybe with a two-on-one or even a three-on-one.

That's what I'm saying.

It's already, I think, this is my position here that he's somebody, he's confident in himself.

Do you think he made this area?

He's not concentrating enough on making the save because he's thinking about,

it's like running before he caught the ball kind of thing, but maybe he's thinking he's going

to make the save because it's going to be a bad goal from there.

Am I overstating that?

I think a little.

I mean, it's, it's, you know, midpoint of the face-off circle open look with a lot of time.

Like, there's nobody checking the guy, so he has time to sort of, you know, I mean,

in hockey terms, I mean, he didn't take all day, but he's got time to choose where to go.

But I think he chooses to go five hole because he could see Luke and in was not,

he was all kind of broken in pieces coming across.

I'm, so I'm in 118, pretty low last night.

I'm as far, almost as far away, I had a terrible view of it.

You hear the puck go in, I can't wait to tell you about the guy I was sitting next to.

Oh my god, this guy was such a beauty.

I just have, just like a little bit of a, you know, footnote.

Listen to an audio book and then you sort of stop the story, like footnote.

I'm going to revisit this guy was like picture Matt Foley

from SNL, but a Sabers fan and hammered.

Like that, that's who I was sitting next to for this game.

And he was so far gone that when Boston scored, he got up and screened Sabers fan.

He just didn't know, which team he was rooting for at that moment, I guess.

He didn't know it would score the goal.

Tough one.

Anyway, that's not the point.

I just didn't really see when I realized that there, this was a goal.

My thought is, well, he must have sniped it.

I mean, the goal he has to know that that's always possible.

He could just pick the corner and your beat.

But he's looking, he's not expecting to get beat the way he got beat.

I just wonder what, like I've already said, what does he want to do

with the puck after he makes the save?

He probably is assuming he's going to make.

Yeah, I did not hear if he talked and if he was asked about it.

So I don't know if he offered any explanation on the play.

It's possible he was so maybe because the pasta not being the guy with the puck,

he waited.

So he's late and maybe all he tried to do was make himself as big as he could.

Because he didn't look, he didn't move the way goal he's moved on the play.

Like his legs are apart and he's sort of like up in his stance.

He might have just tried to gobble up space because he knew he wasn't going to be in good position.

I don't know.

Well, that's the other part of it is what what he knows about his

situation as the shot is being taken.

Maybe he knows he's in trouble.

It definitely was a play I think you'd like a save on.

You know, it's an open clean look in three on three.

But it is not, he just, he just, he just was not sound coming across.

So I didn't like that.

The playoff, the boards, I don't know, I also didn't like it.

Mostly because I think I heard all in talking about this.

Wait, this is three three.

This is three three.

Okay, good.

The middle set goal.

I'm asking.

Maybe the big play on that goal is middle set winning a battle with Josh Don,

below the goal line, which is what started the whole thing to begin with.

That's just not something.

You tell me Josh Don and Casey middle set are going into a corner to battle for a puck

and I'm going to expect Josh Don to win that battle.

In the Boston end.

No, in the safe behind the saber net.

Middle set takes the puck off of Don.

Okay, okay.

Or wins a battle for a loose puck and gets it out to the point and then the shot comes in

and middle set from there has gone to the front of the net smartly.

But it looked like looking in.

He didn't know, I think he didn't know.

I don't think neither.

He nor Dalin knew where the puck was exactly.

It did take a weird bounce.

It deflected, it was screened and I think he got his blocker on it.

But didn't thinking about what you want to do with it.

On that play what he probably, if he sees it cleanly,

what you'd want to do with it is blocker it into the netting or off the glass.

Like just, boof, out of here.

But he only got a piece of it and then it bounced weirdly and they didn't know where it was.

But even with that said, it just felt like looking in

did not do a good job of protecting his net there.

Like he just, he got all turned around.

That happens.

Yeah, it was just messy.

So he just wasn't prepared for that at all.

But you do, I think I have room for like some forgiveness on,

because it's just a weird bounce.

You know that the shot off his blockers a weird bounce off the walls,

a knuckle ball coming back and it's just strange.

And so, but he didn't do a great job there either.

But the winning goal I thought was pretty bad overall on his night.

I guess that's where I was then already.

Like just watching it live from basically ice level.

Was, well, that was strange.

But did they just get a bad bounce there and then yikes, you know,

but yeah, I still like to know what he wants to do with the save in the overtime.

And it would vary on the same shot.

Would it would be different answers for different situations.

It was 40 seconds or so into overtime.

The Sabers never touched the puck or had had possession in overtime,

which I was super bummed about whether they win or lose.

I'm down there like I'm getting a three on three.

Give me like one chance.

Right.

At least or a shootout even.

Yeah, yeah.

No, they never did anything.

I don't know.

I'm not sure what their numbers are three on three,

but I'm kind of glad that the playoffs don't have it.

Oh, they're bad, they might be three and eight.

There've been Thompson disaster moments.

And I don't, I'm kind of thinking it's good that they don't play three on three.

Yeah, they are.

I think three and eight, they got eight overtime losses.

40 regulation or overtime wins and they've got 44.

So they're four and eight, I guess, an overtime.

So not great.

And you know, it's two ones, two in a row that, you know,

I mean, they they had the puck on on Sunday in Anaheim,

but lost it pretty quickly.

That was a pretty quick goal, too, wasn't it?

Minute, minute ten.

So yeah, not not not great.

The whole the whole night was just

this Boston's game.

Yeah, yeah, they were, except for when they took the lead.

Yeah, did Lindy say after like the first 40 minutes

for the worst two periods we've played in three months or something,

which, you know, that might be an exaggeration,

but it was it was not good.

It might not be.

I know that like watching the game, I was, you know,

I was texting friends and Owen was in the press box.

I'm like, they don't they don't have it tonight.

This is not something like.

But yeah, then they managed to, you know,

Benson makes a great individual play.

They get the other power play goal.

And okay, we got the lead again.

And then you get that bad, you know, that bad bounce.

I already have been saying I can't get enough of Benson

and just blessed I wish.

Right.

Even adding to that.

I was thinking of you when he made that, made that play.

And absolutely just wrecked into the net.

Yep.

And the penalty is called, which kind of shocked me.

Yeah, me too.

I thought they would just let that go.

And then just score on it and it's almost April.

Right.

Right.

So good.

Yeah, I was feeling 20 years ago in those moments.

I mean, I was jumping up and just super fired up for those two goals.

It never felt like their game, but you never know.

Right.

And they got they got burned.

They still got a point.

And Tampa has a chance to get within one tonight.

I mean, we both kind of said yesterday and maybe throughout.

Tampa is probably the better team.

So it isn't well, the end of the world if they can't hold Tampa off.

It doesn't taint the amazing.

Right.

I don't think anything crumbles here.

But, you know, they've lost two in a row now.

Neither in regulation.

So they still got that going for them.

But two in a row and regulate are in overtime.

So, you know, Friday.

Friday probably is going to get a lot of people are going to pour a lot into Friday.

Like, okay, let's end this now.

All right.

Like it's another team in the race.

Can we just look good tonight?

Please, like, just look good.

Because it's not that many games ago.

I mean, the LA game, right, was they were they were the better team clearly.

The game before that was San Jose.

And that was a game that was maybe not as bad as last night.

But I know watching it was sort of like, oh, they don't have it.

And then it was three nothing.

But then they just they just coasted home, basically.

The game in San Jose last Thursday.

So it's, you know, it's a it's three out of four here that they maybe haven't been in great form.

I would say if you if you accept that San Jose was, you know,

they they weren't real good in the game, but they still won.

So let's, you know, get it back on track.

Even Los Angeles.

I'm happy if you are as well to offer any sort of therapy.

We do not want to be losing our minds with 10 games left.

Before the first playoff season in 15 years.

Okay, right, everybody, do we do we know that?

We know that, right?

I mean, the fun is getting into the the roller coaster and riding the ride.

But yeah, I don't want to like last night.

Okay, I mean, even LA, all these games, your, your expectation should be.

All right, this probably will be close.

Right. It's a hockey game, right?

I looked, I thought about betting the Bruins last night, just objectively,

because Buffalo was minus 210 or something.

Like really, they're that much better than Boston.

If we're sitting down for these games, thinking like the Sabers are just better than Boston,

be careful.

That's how much better?

A little bit.

Maybe Boston played the night before.

Okay.

That doesn't have to, like, it's just the margins are very, very thin.

Yeah, that's right.

That's right.

And to me, they still are.

I still, they still are.

Like, I don't come out of last night, like,

oh, I don't want any part of them.

No, it's fine.

I didn't have their best goalie in.

And I thought corporate solo had a pretty lucky night.

There were a lot of saves.

You might have noticed watching in person on TV.

There were, there were saves where he's looking the wrong way after the puck hits him.

Thompson from the high slot in the second.

He's has no idea where that puck is.

Dalline hits him in kind of the same spot

on a play where he came in from the blue line off the right side

and got a nice shot off.

And it just, but corporate, it hit corporate solo,

like, just in between the arm,

like in the arm shoulder below the shoulder area.

But he looked around after that shot.

Like, I think he got away with one, maybe.

But they have a better, well, way better goalie, I think, in swimming.

So they didn't have him.

But that team doesn't, you know, it's funny to me.

I was, I think I said something about Casey Middleston at the other day.

Like, I'm not losing, not losing.

Yes.

And, you know, it was nice for him to get that goal.

Just make me feel like a jerk for saying that about him.

But I think I still believe that.

I'm not, I'm not losing, come on.

I'm not losing to you.

That game doesn't change.

No, I don't think so, sure.

No, okay.

We would say that, right?

We lost.

We would say that.

Let's go to Jeremy here.

Hi.

How are you guys doing?

Good.

Thank you.

Just a couple of points or questions.

Mike, I know you said you were at the game.

What was your, were you behind with the nets?

No.

No, because I was wondering what the heck the defense was doing.

I don't know, three or four times.

When Pastor Knack was getting behind them for breakaways, after breakaways.

I'm just wondering what the defense was or were they sleeping

because he had like three or four breakaways almost.

I was going to say on that, like on the goal.

He didn't score on a breakaway on the goal.

But he's in a loan on a play where Tuck does not get the puck out of the zone,

even though he's like a foot from the blue line with it.

And I also fell on one.

I'm that, that's right.

He's tripped over the blue line.

Yeah.

I'm that play.

Power is, you know, this is, this is their thing.

Power is ready to go up the ice with Tuck.

Tuck's about to get the puck out of the zone and power is blowing the zone.

He doesn't leave the zone, but he's got, he's headed up.

And the play suddenly turns around on a dime.

Now, that doesn't excuse him and McLeod and another forward, I think,

for coasting back on that play, which they all did.

And allowed for, I think it was Arvetson to get that rebound.

After Luke and then made the nice poke check on Pastor Knack.

But that play, the reason Pastor Knack is all alone is because Tuck doesn't get the puck out.

You can say be more careful, but their whole thing with that D is like getting in the play.

And so they're ready to go and they got burned.

Yeah.

And what was your guys' opinion on the tying goal from Middlestead was,

I mean, I came in late to the conversation, but it seemed like UPL was sideways.

Yeah.

Yeah, we did just talk about it.

He got lost there.

I mean, he didn't know where the puck was, which is a problem.

But he didn't do a very good job of protecting his net.

He just sort of got all spun around and off balance.

And it was a tough play for him.

Dan is next.

Hi, Dan.

Hey, thanks for taking my call.

So the reason I think they brought in Logan Stanley was to kind of ramp up the physicality.

But I haven't really noticed, I haven't noticed like a physical presence very much up to this point.

I feel like we may have better defense than him, just exclusively as defenseman.

But I was just curious to see what you thought about this kind of physical play after this point.

I realized why they would use him in a playoff situation.

But right now, are they trying to just get him acclimate the system?

Right.

I guess that's just kind of my thought at this point.

I agree.

He did.

He fought in the San Jose home game.

But it was one of those stills like a guy he's got a history with.

And it was not like a defend the team kind of thing.

It was just like the puck dropped and like, okay, these guys have fought before.

They're going to fight the game that defines the season or the Sabers season is the Tampa game.

And he's not on the ice.

He's in the press box doing interviews.

Like he's not with them yet.

I don't know.

I think toughness is one thing.

To me, this Sabers team does not appear to be lacking.

They're big enough and they're scrappy.

I don't think I have a problem.

I don't mind this for depth and not against.

I wasn't against what they did.

You want to push an ad when you're trying to win.

But I'm not sure he's one of their six best guys.

Like I feel like the rest of his game is not it.

So if I have a team, this will be an interesting decision.

If I have a team where I think I need somebody that big to save me, then okay, I don't think they do.

I think they're sort of showing that they can hold up.

And we've still got 10 games.

There probably will be injuries.

That's one reason why you make that trade.

But I don't feel like I'm getting what I was told to expect from Stanley, which is like, well,

he's big if that's what you want, but the rest of it.

Last night could have been a spot.

Zadorov got after a couple of guys, like a couple of hard hits, McLeod, and I think Tuck.

And you could have, like, sent Stanley out there to challenge him.

Think about that is I'm not sure.

I don't want Zadorov run around trying to injure people.

I also kind of want him on the ice if I'm playing them.

He's not that good.

Well, he's big and he moves and he's mean, but there was a shift in the second.

No, the first period of this game, one of the best shifts the Sabers had.

He gave the puck away like two or three times in the span of a minute and a half.

They couldn't get out of their end.

So I don't know, I don't want to excuse it.

If you have that guy in the lineup, Stanley, he could have challenged Zadorov last night.

There was cause to, I think, nothing that he did was cheap.

He didn't get penalized for any of it.

I don't think, but you still could have gone and tried to, like,

with the idea is deter him from doing that, which I don't really believe in.

Like, I think if the key to Zadorov wants to run you, he's going to run you.

And then if the organ Stanley wants to fight him for it, he'll fight him and then he'll run some more guys.

I don't want the Sabers tilting like that.

I mean, that's just been no part of their story.

And I know how the playoffs can be described as different.

I think I want Stanley to protect my net and okay, but I'm doing fine with a guy who's like

5'8", like I just, I took him out.

So I don't know. I wonder if this is, you know, kind of an audition, like we've been talking,

that the Sabers have that luxury if you, you know, are on board with that sort of thinking.

I mean, they're also trying to win their division in conference.

He is the only guy they really have.

Samuelson throws the body, but he's not, you know, he's not intimidating.

He's not a fighter. Stanley is.

So I think, you know, they got him for that.

I would anticipate him being in the lineup for the playoffs.

But Timon's playing pretty well last night might be a wrinkle.

He had a good night, not surprising to me.

I think, you know, he only had two penalty kills, but you know, he played it on the penalty

kill and they killed both of the penalty.

I think they're going to want that.

And he moved the puck effectively.

You know, he was with Stanley.

Like, I didn't have a problem with Stanley last night, either, really.

So I don't know what they're going to end up doing there.

And there's Kessel Ring.

Right.

All right, here we go.

10 games left.

Sal Kapaccio will join us at four Mike's Show in the Bulldog here.

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