What the Chiefs Still Need to Do?

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We talked about the pre-agents that were incoming here a couple of days ago now about the ones that are going out and what's left to do

We'll talk about where the chiefs need to look right now a couple more minor signings

Haven't made by the Kansas City Chiefs for losing Brian Cook Joe and Watson Leo Schnau

Isaiah Pacheco, Josh Williams pretty much that whole

2022

Draft class has walked out the door for a lot of money. We'll discuss that

Trent McDuffey's big deal was something the chiefs could have stomached and how this all affects the Kansas City Chiefs draft

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Now here are the hosts of the best chiefs podcast

Jeff Chidea Sam McDowell and Seren Petro

Thank you very much Curtis we do appreciate it as we get things started gentlemen with a little conversation about

Where the chiefs are right now? What's still left to do?

We know they got Kenneth Walker the big running back signing low. He go more the safety chyrus

Tania the defensive tackle those are the big additions

But now they've lost a lot they've lost a lot of that 22 draft cost which we'll get to it a little bit

But rattled off some of the names Sam you know, we know defensive end edge is gonna be the obvious spot

And we'll talk about how that affects the draft and where they go with that

But what else are they working on to try to put this roster together before they go to St. Joe?

Yeah, I mean right now Felix and you decay who's almost third on the depth chart at ed rusher

So when you say and when you say third you mean as in one and two start

Yes, yeah

You have to be not that third string right top top back up

I mean they were 19th and pressure rate for a team that blitz the third most in the league last year

So like this was the primary priority going in and

The fact that they still haven't addressed it. I mean we'll get to their draft plans

But it's it's I think it's perhaps a tell that that's what they think that draft

Could potentially produce for them, but they still need depth there and I like wherever else they they need they need

That's foreign away number one, but I still do think that they've got other needs as well. I mean

We'll also get to the draft class in this but that group was 49 at 12 for the first three seasons and nine of those 10 guys

Are eight of them are for sure gone and so like you've got a lot of supporting cast to replace now

Yeah, no doubt as is the thought process here in the chat room as

Detackled tight end wide receiver

You know the roster is Swiss cheese need four DB's. I don't think at least our listeners ship here on the red gold of bold

I was making any assumptions that it's all fixed and it's all solved

Jeff, what do they need to keep working on they they did sign and it was Emery de Mercato

Running back I'm Peter Cole didn't play last year a corner. I saw where some of the you know

Lower end kind of

I don't I mean, I would think that those guys have a decent chance

To make the roster just based upon what they have right now, but there is still a lot of work to be done Jeff

Yeah, no doubt. I mean if you've watched the last three games of the season you realize that there's a lot of a lack of talent and some

Here is on this team and so now

You're talking about people leaving that we'll get to in a second here

But just the amount of depth they have to start creating you on this roster

I don't know what the exact number is, but you look at their depth chart and you as Sam said you go beyond some of the names

You recognize and it's a lot of people you've never heard of before and so that's got to change

Fairly you know in the next few months, but overall I think it's like every team is in this situation at some point when they've had to kind of run

This team has had or the kind of success not to kind of run specifically and so that is it's a nice

It's a nice time to start thinking about your future and so obviously edge

linebacker, which and I'll leave in corner is still in play safety

The running back situation is a little bit more interesting now with the signing of De Mercado because I wonder if that means they won't be as high on taking their running back

In the draft, but he's more of a special teams guy as well

But receiver too. I mean, so you're gonna have to find a lot of players because we know injuries happen

We know how they look to win some of the front-line starters weren't getting it done and there's still a lot more work to be done as you said

Yeah, what Sam what do you think about these last couple signings?

I mean, there are guys that have produced I mean here Brent mentions, you know that De Mercado's had a little bit of success in the NFL

And I do agrees more of a special teams guy, but he has had some success cold started

I think it was 38 games in his career at cornerback

He's coming off in the injury didn't play it all last year

So but he is a guy that has some experience. They are it. I mean, I think you're seeing them grab you want to you'll look

You're probably going to sign for the league minimum wherever you go

You want to do it for the Kansas City Chiefs and play Patrick Mahomes or you want to take your chances someplace else and if you'll sign

Chiefs will have you but I mean we are talking about like they can't be that much money now all the details of the contracts aren't in yet as to how much they back

Putting things to fit everybody in but there can't be a lot of money to be signing anyone else of of note or I don't know

You think I'm wrong. You think that they've carved out enough that there could still be a signing that's a little bit more significant

Well, I mean the the way for agency works is all the big names are off are off the board

I mean so you know they can't get somebody that's like top of market significant

I mean, I'd be surprised that they're still not looking for other pieces

Especially the position we just mentioned like even if you think the draft is strong you still need depth at that spot but

Look with with these two signings. I think they make a lot of sense

I mean the cornerback has played 75% of the snaps in the slot and I think when you look at this group you you think

More Williams you'd rather not play in the slot in Christian Fulton if that's yours winds up being your starter

You'd rather he not play in the slot so like you need competition

At slot cornerback specifically and why not take a risk on a guy that's gonna come cheap because of an entry and just just

You would as health is what the running back my first thought is I would have loved to have been in the room when air

The enemies look at the film of this guy because he's the guy who dropped the ball the half-yard line

What would be an we have done in that situation?

You could keep him off the field you put up the

Feel off the player it might be you put up that comic about his like 40 50 and 70 yard runs

Well, I guess he needed like 71

So the old 70 non touchdown run. Yeah, they're tough. They're tough to they don't big deal

It only cost him a game. Yeah, but it does it does continue to point to the idea that they are done with all of last year's running backs

I mean always a if a checker's already signed with the lions on just barely more than a leak minimum deal

And this would tend to point itself

I actually think through the cream hunt signing the the fact that cream hunts probably not coming back as as much tied to

Kyra's Tonga's fullback play

With the Patriots that this is their fullback on short yardage is their defensive tackle and

You know, but you think Tonga's gonna replace cream hot. No, he's gonna. He's that play having him come in and lead block

Any running back is gonna be their solution for the one yard

Cream hunt dive will be Tonga on a lead and actually having a fullback back there would be my guess, but I think as of right now

We are going and this this falls into the same category about what's still up to do

I think as of right now we might be talking about short yardage again next year

In a way that we haven't had to the last two years because cream hunts been so effective with it that it just becomes this

Non-discussion point, but I feel like with the group they have right now

Because Kenneth Walker didn't play a lot of third downs, and it seems like we might all of a sudden be talking about short yardage issues

again if they don't make another move

I'll give you a peek into the covers for one of my bold and daring

predictions

Kyra's Tonga scores a touchdown

I do think that you're at number one. I get two chances at it one

Maybe falls on a fumble off a sack strip in the end zone or something, but two

I actually do think that in the back of the head though. I go, okay

We have our short yardage fullback without having to use a roster spot on it

And I actually think it's valuable. I actually think it's going to be what a lot of teams do

If you don't have if you can't come up with a roll or a fullback and all around fullback then having a guard or a defensive tackle or

Something along those lines that can come in and just fire out into the into the hole and knock some people down

I don't think is a bad strategy for roster construction

I don't mean to get bogged down on the on the running of of Kyra's Tonga. Well, I don't disagree with that, but like

A gimmick play is different than I mean cream hunt had like 34 first downs on short yardage last year

Yeah, but I think he's not going to work 34 times did I I'm going to look it up

But I think his offensive staps were

higher than you might think

Uh Tonga I'm talking about success rate here. I'm not talking about quantity. I'm talking about quality like

He ran for first downs on short yardage at a higher rate than the push pushing at 34

First downs on it like this was this was not a small sample size trying to look and see

Got his defenses. I had looked this up so I may be totally out the lunch, but in my head

I thought I'd heard that he had over 30 snaps

on offense

So it's more like the guy the chargers have mat lock kind of who I thought it was more like 10, but I

Again, I did not look up

100% reserve the right to be completely wrong on this

Uh backfield 15

15 in the backfield so what a game

This deal decent amount I mean you can do it

I mean he'll have more short yardage carries than patching my homes. I bet you're right

We know that one sure. Yeah, absolutely

Absolutely guys

Like how big of a to me that's one of the the concerns about the roster is what they do on short yardage

I guess you know with with you mentioning him

How

precipitives of a drop do you think their success will be with short yardage?

Well

I kareem one was definitely their their best back for it

So I think they take a step back from it and and Kenneth walker style was not you know the the patients in the backfield

It's not always the right way to go on third and one

You know, it's it's more about it's quickly assess where the weaknesses in the line get your shoulders down

Have a good leg drive and shove the the weakness back and you know make sure you get the first down. So

I think they definitely do you know kareem hunt has an act for that and it's obvious

But I also think they that's one of the few times that they actually let their line fire out and I think they're that offensive line

Is more inclined to be good at that. So I think they they got better on the offensive line and on that play

It actually you know when you're doing just a quick dive play or you're doing some kind of power run

It adheres itself to what they do well

So I don't think the be the dropoff will be like

I think it'll be somewhere in between the success rate they had and the my god they can't convert anything

I think they'll be more average-ish at that point

But if your roster is distracted to convert third and one all the time and be great at they were great at the short yards last year

And they still sucked offensively

Right like there's there is the big picture of so don't be good on third and one

Oh, there's no

I can don't yeah not converting but the idea is to not end up in third and one the idea is to get 12 yards in the first two downs

Sure, absolutely. Yeah, that's that's the concept of it, but yeah, I mean

I I definitely think you have a valid point

And I don't want to make it seem like this is top top of list

I'm just saying I do think it's a thing when I look at this this latest backfield signing is like I

Kind of like huh. I don't think that guy fits that exact role. Yeah. Yeah

I think sense the point is like this is up all their

Editions are about the speed they're supposed to miss right this guy who runs a four four forty two

And so they want guys who can get

As the as the commenter said 40-50-70 yard run they want that element

Yeah, and and and which is not the direction that everybody else is going

We've talked about a lot. We'll see if this ends up working

All right, we want to get into the guys they've lost and what that means. We'll do it after we hear from our friends again

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All right, let's talk a little bit about who is moving on some of the deals

I want to start interesting. I think there's a little bit to zero in on Brian cook three years 40 million

But of note and this guy publicized right away

You're one of the deal is 18 million meaning almost half of the money is up in your one

Which I think is one

Smart roster construction. I think it's at some point somebody and it's not going to be the chiefs while Patrick

Holmes is the quarterback because they've already set their path on how they have to structure their contracts

They're always waiting for the cap to go up to fit what they've already spent

Under the cap, but somebody who's in a rebuild mode

And slashes and burns all the veterans and resets their cap is going to start front loading contracts

Because it gives you a position to one always have more cap room later on

It means you got to spend more up front and it means you might get burnt on a deal

But it means you're going to be cheaper on the other end of each contract

It also means that every player you have becomes eminently more valuable in a trade

Because the team that's bringing him in is taking on one less cash

But two also less cap room and that's what the Bengals have done here now

I think the reason the Bengals did it was this to me is the sign that it's the chiefs

The one guy out of everyone that they've lost and let's we find out there some other

Contracts structure like this

That's the poison pill to keep the cheese from being able to sign them or somebody to be able to sign brine cook

There was clearly competition there

And by making the biggest number the first number it gets harder for everybody to fit it in because usually every contract is back loaded

You guys agree Sam will start with you brine cook

What it looks like based on that was maybe the guy they wanted to keep the most

Well, I know there's still having conversations with with Leo Sional as well during the free agency period

So I don't know if I I would say most but

I do think when you look at the the pure AAV of all the deals that the cook one

Is perhaps the most attractive of the the cheese free agencies cheese free agents that are are leaving

There's there's some of the the free agency deals with the cheese that I'm like

I don't know what film you're watching

But last last year I mean

Shoot potentially getting like six guaranteed and up to eight. It's just like

I know he got hurt in the Titans game. Did you watch the plays before

He got hurt like I that that number surprised me. There's some other numbers that that surprised me as well, but

The cook when I thought was in a free agency period. It's always hard to find

Reasonableness. I thought that one looked the most reasonable

Yeah, okay

Tommy Jeff Brian Cook

Leaving you know that we they've walked on safeties before

Tyron Matthew Justin Reed

They're walking on now they have another veteran that they're bringing in Brian Cook wasn't a veteran that they brought into a place

Justin Reed but they're bringing Gilman in to replace but does

Cook look like the one that was maybe the hardest to say goodbye to

Uh, I wouldn't go that far

I think a lot of that deal that he got wasn't just about the money and I don't think they should have paid that kind of money for him

But too he's boy he mourned a Cincinnati. He played Kyle of football Cincinnati. There's you know

He's going home just so that midduffy going back to LA there's a lot of value in that for a player in the bagels

Made it clear at the combine they're they're ready to spend money. They had salary cap space

55 million somewhere around that mountain they were going to go out and they were going to go find some defenders

And so you see boy in my face coming in you see

Jonathan Allen coming in and Brian Cook was a player in the back end that they wanted to

And wanted to find a safety to pair with Jordan battle because they like their young corners

Daxton Hill and DJ Turner a couple of Michigan guys who were pretty fast

But people kind of don't realize that this team

Defensively played much better in the second half of the season

They a lot of talk about how bad they've been in that department the last few years

But they have improved a lot and so letting Trey Henderson walk and then making these kind of moves

I think Brian Cook saw going home was a thing the money of the thing

But he also saw this defense probably can work for me. They want guys who can be

versatile and and be um be leaders

Sam Jalen Watson three for 51 lios and all three for almost 25

You know

What are the what what's your reaction to those contraction did the chiefs have an opportunity?

Do you think those are numbers that they could have they could have matched if they really wanted to

I really don't I mean Jalen Watson's

28

Or he'll open the season 20. I don't know when exactly as birthday is but

This is a I think a group that when you we've the three of us have pretty frequently talked

But the chiefs needed to get to their next wave and I've always argued this is the third wave not the second

I think once you try to tirey kill that became a new iteration of this era and now you're in a third one because you're losing

This 2022 draft class and

I don't think moving on to the next wave entails signing a cornerback

28 29 and 30 a position that you've pointed out more than anyone's friend needs to get younger

And so like I think Jalen Watson a tripping year never a better time for him to be entering free agency

Than this year. They'll miss the production he had a year ago, but it's just not

Not an effort. I would have made and

That the sense of because I have seen this some sentiment out there that the Jalen Watson was an affordable deal

The sense of you know trading away Trent McDuffy and obviously you would have had to give him an extension

But you know technically technically he's on what was a 14 million with this fifth year player option

And turn around and paying Jalen Watson 17. I think that would have been hard to square. Yeah, I I agree to you

Jeff I get one of these look like ones that maybe the chiefs are gonna regret letting go

Uh, I don't see any of them on that list being

regrettable

I think the point we made about Jalen Watson is that

The Rams are going to get the two best years of him and

And one at least in a championship window and the chiefs doing that same deal

They're probably not going to be championship caliber during that time

So a lot of times what people sometimes people see the money part of it

But it's also the scenario you're going into the situation you're going into that matter

And so for the Rams, that's that's an easy deal to stomach if you're you're the the the body of Jalen Watson brings

And he allows

Trent McDuffy to be where he needs to be is in the slot

To be here

Playing on a team that we just talked about all the holes he has here. That doesn't really help you

He's not impactful in that way that you're going to get a couple more wins out of him being on the field

So that made sense, you know, I was happy first and all I thought he would go someplace where

I thought it wouldn't go to be the place he'd wind up

But Washington makes sense because they have a lot of money and they've lost a lot of linebackers

He's a versatile player for them

He could be a versatile player for them

But yeah, nobody else on it. The checko certainly not Josh Williams. I mean the many you nobody else on this list really

Are they going to

Be upset about leaving

4 for one 24 on on

Tremac Duffy we've talked a lot of anybody who's listening to this podcast knows we've talked about

signing Tray Smith and Nick Bolton and the money they gave really that's the day

That they walked on

Tremac Duffy was when they decided to make those deals. There was going to be no way to keep Tremac Duffy. I mean

You know now that we see the number now that we see like you get if you're available

You're going to get the biggest check. I think this is also a reflection. I will

I think some credit does need to be given to Brett Beach and his staff that they

Red the market that there was no corner

That was just available on free agency that was even going to approach like they

Red who was going to be out there and so making him available on trade made him instantly the number one corner to come get

There's there's times where you're like okay, we got this guy and he's really good and you can trade for them

They're like there's three guys that can sign a free agency that are about as good. I don't need to give you a pick and pay all this money

Like we we talked about the deal. We were all impressed with the haul that they got as far as the picks

But now that it actually becomes you know 31 million per a hundred million year and T

How much credit you give to them reading the market Sam and and you know

Is there any shock on the sticker price that the Rams ended up paying?

Yeah, I think a little bit bit

Look, I mean you've

You've related this back to the trend

Out to the the detra Smith deal and the Nick Bolton deal. We've all done that

I look at now what the chief's got in return for trading trim McDuffie and then what he subsequently costs in LA and said

I think you make that deal regardless of your cap situation like this is good business because pain

Trim McDuffie especially when he plays up frequently in the slot

30 million dollars

And at the expense of giving up a first round pick and and three other picks like

I'd rather have that side of the equation regardless of what your cap situation is and

Man, it's hard to find someone who likes Trim McDuffie more than I do

But that's just that's just the way I feel about

The other side of the coin and so

I i i i wonder

What the cheese would have done if there if they were not pushed into this corner this year because this is

I think this should remind the chiefs that there's good business to be had even if it's not necessary

Business to be had you know the chiefs kicked the tires. I'm getting him signed last summer right like in training camp

You know they had talked to him and they were so they they had a ballpark on what it was gonna take

and you know my understanding is that Tray Smith was asking for 23 the same time Creed Humphrey got signed

They had they knew where the franchise tag was gonna be the chiefs didn't get it done

So they wait a year then they put the franchise tag on them

Then they ultimately end up giving the price that CAA and that's the agency for him and and Tray Smith was asking for

Well, they went down that same road and I think again same agency

It was pretty clear. This is what it's going to take you can let him play

And I think most people think that he wasn't going to hold out if the chiefs had kept them and played him on 13 million

But like there is a lesson to be had here Jeff and like that's how that agency works

So you either if you have a player you either need to trade him or you need to make him the highest paid his position

Or you're going to be in a contract squabble and

You know at some point somebody's going to just hold out you know the Chris Jones situation

But I do think there is a lesson to be learned about at least the agency and how it's worked with those two players the last couple of years

Yeah, I think it'd be interesting to know what the chiefs thought his value was like how high would they be willing to go was where they've been 25

26 man a year

Yeah, I don't I don't think it'd be 30 obviously

But and there's and there's about argument to be made that he's not a 30 million dollar your corner

He's a very specific niche player for what the Rams want

With the Johns would use him as and I I agree with Sam is a phenomenal player and he's a phenomenal guy

But if you're the chiefs is this this was the right play all all all and it's the right play because of what happened before like I still think

Nick Bolton's contract was a mistake. I still think Chris missed contract was a mistake

But you're also talking about those contracts coming at a time when they're

Feeling themselves feeling good about winning super bowls and all this stuff

And you're just 11 you got to be a lot more realistic about just with Janet Watson

How much is this guy changing the win column for us and at 30 million a year?

That's not something you should be thinking about yeah, I think that that

You know, I jumped I think was the last week or maybe was it was Tuesday that

We've signed so many other chiefs players between the three of us if they don't have Trace Smith and Nick Bolton on the books

But to me this free agency year is the year where I think you could have done something different if those contracts for your books

And I don't think that signing trip McDuffie to 31 million dollars is this something different that they should have that they should have

Prioritized because one of the things about this trade is is

You took advantage of where you're strong

Which is drafting cornerbacks and developing cornerbacks

And I think what you should do in free agency is find out where you're weak and

It's getting better offensive weapons. It's it's it's getting receivers and

You know, I guess I would rather have like Romeo dobs at 17 million

With the chief's roster with the chief situation with that Trace Smith money or with that Nick Bolton money

Then signed trim McDuffie for for there and there's other examples out there too, but I'm just throwing out one name

And you mentioned the might receivers. I mean it is expensive. I mean

I mean, I think the chiefs I

I would think it's fair to say the chiefs have been taking a little off guard about how expensive the receiver position has gotten

Right like I mean they spend on the offensive line

And now they're going wow. I got to pay this for a three. I got to pay this for a two and ones don't make it out there

You know, I think there's a little bit of sticker shock when it when it comes to that

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I believe the number for the amount of contracts of the 2022 draft class sign is upwards of around 250 million dollars

258

258 okay 258 million dollars now 124 million of that is tied up in one guy in Trent McDuffey

but

Like let's do take a moment to acknowledge just how good seem you talked about moving on from that 22 class is a big moment

It is

There's also one of their more impressive

You know draft holes never and one of the key reasons it's a reason to go

This team was six and eleven last year with these guys and now a lot of them are leaving

All of them are leaving except George carloftus

You know

This is a big

Loss and it was a great draft for the chiefs. Yeah, I mean when you include carloftus

This is the extension that he got in training camp. It's 350 million dollars and

I

I attempted and and failed to

To be able to to find a way to look this up, but

I'm guessing at 350 million just the total number not the amount of cap space

But the total number of 350 million dollars

Is about the most ever for a non quarterback

Second contract of a draft class first of all they they have the advantage that there's more guys in that but

I mean

The highest paid cornerback a pretty good paid eddressher pretty good paid safety

I mean, it's just it's a terrific draft class and that's where I actually found some irony yesterday when Kenneth walker walked in to the room because he was a member of the 2022

Draft class. So here comes one member in as eight members of of that class or leaving

But I also thought that that was sort of symbolic of where the chiefs are is Kenneth walkers here to

To be the supporting cast for the quarterback

But meanwhile the supporting cast for the this last era is gone and I think people need to realize like exactly how impactful the draft class was

You know as rookies

They combine for more than 3,000 snaps and when you do the math on it the chiefs on average

When these guys were rookies

average three defensive rookies on the field that that year this last year

that group that that we mentioned in the in the last segment

On average for those guys were on the field on every defense apply like this is a lot

That that the chiefs have to replace and I know that Tripp McDuffee is the headline

But there's a lot of pieces to to what the chiefs were doing well for a long time

Especially on a defense that we've all talked about it can be complicated for for some people to learn these guys had it down

What's the lesson the chiefs from the 22 class Jeff? I mean one of the things I know that they

Recorded saying in the kingdom documentary was that like it wasn't necessarily that they set out to draft all this defense

That's just how the board fell right? Okay, then let that be your guiding light like be in a position like that's one thing

I will take away if that is an honest assessment and they didn't set out to draft defense and

Just got a little bit lucky. I mean, I think you know, it makes it

Makes you sound better to say well, we just read the board and we we pivoted everywhere

We need to pivot and it just ended up being defense. That's the best that makes you sound the best

But if it's a hundred percent honest, it's one of the things that this free agency period now needs to accomplish

So you don't go into the draft going we have to get this and we all feel like they have to get an edge

It's going to make it harder to

Draft the way they did in that 22 draft class if they are going into this this 26 draft saying well

We have a couple things we have to get somewhere

Yeah, well for me the lesson is I think for what this is with any great draft classes you have to have the right

mix of talent coming in the door

But just to have what's in the room already in the building already be special and so when these guys showed up

Patrick homes Patrick my homes Travis Kelsey Chris Jones with the height of their superpowers

Then made it easier for these guys to develop. Let's not forget some of these guys didn't I'll just start off

I'd go gangbusters killing it

Gentlemen Watson

Wasn't playing that great for a long period of time, but I cook wouldn't play that great for a long period of time

Obviously Skymore didn't even work out

And so to me it's it's more important that

The people who are here

Well, that's the Rishi Rises as aviary were these

Uh

Who else could you throw in that bolt the Nick Bolton's

Those kind of guys have to play at a higher level to make it easier for the next group coming in right because if they don't then you end up with

A lot more of an underwhelming

Result and so I think to me it's like they even think about general Watson having the time to develop because

Need became a stud player for this team right if you were asking him to be a stud a couple years ago

wouldn't have been the same result and and

That's big. I think about the Saints their 2016 drive-clat that was

Marsha on ladder more and Alvin Kamehrer and Ryan Ramscheck and Trey Henderson and

The stuff that they had a great run, but then that what those guys were done

Didn't look so great and so I think they have to keep your mind full of getting this kind of talent again with the numbers

They have but also keep the mind that the guys who were here

Some of these guys got to grow up and do more

Yeah, the numbers they have nine picks Sam and they have nine picks this year

They had 12 going into this draft class. They moved up a couple of times. Maybe more than a couple

Might have to go back and look at all of them

And they ended up with 10 players if you were on an atomic Duffy and George Carloftus in the first

They moved up to get McDuffie

Skymore and Brian cook in the second Skymore didn't work out

You don't feel as bad when Brian Cook becomes one of the better safeties and football

The ocean all in the third

Josh Williams in the fourth Darian can are to actually is playing for the Packers

Right now did not work out for the Chiefs, but he was the fifth round picking then three seventh rounders

Which they hand out

Like it's nobody's business. They they gave away a six-rounder to move into the seventh round

They give away next year's six to move into the seventh round to draft both peak keys

Tharcareous keys back in 2020. That's how much they value those seventh rounders

But they're three seventh rounders Jalen Wanson Isaiah Pacheco and nazi Johnson

I mean that is a great draft and one of the reasons it's great

You don't mind the Darian canard washed out. You don't mind that Josh Williams

Was kind of the bottom of your cornerback death most of the time. You don't mind that Skymore

You know when it's all send them when assessing this class didn't work out because you had seven other players

And you had the volume to to create value

Yet they were also this is the similarity to me in the position the rent first

Well, they have more draft capital overall than what they had in 2022

Like this is really their first opportunity

To fully repeat what they did in 2022 knowing that it's going to be really hard to replicate

What they did in that draft

But the other similarity is just where the the rest of the roster is

Jeff made a great point about the the leadership

Being in did I that and thought about I think that's a terrific point of what environment these guys are coming into

but depth chart wise

Your draft picks are gonna have to play

We just talked about some things at the the top of the show about what the chief still need to accomplish

And it's becoming more and more clear that some of this is going to have to be accomplished through the draft

Those guys want to play and and and you wonder about the correlation between

Preparedness to play with this group that just made three hundred and fifty million dollars including carloftus

Versus they had to play and therefore they improved and therefore they got better and therefore the experience

Led them to where they were over these last seven days and and signing this money and that's the similarity in the situation

The chiefs are going to be in now is whoever they draft nine whoever they draft 29 whoever they draft 41

Those guys got to be ready to go like there's not going to be a lot of time for patience because the dread this depth chart as

As it stands now it doesn't allow for that patience

Yeah, really I was gonna say to you the leadership part is too all those guys were the last real connection to that

The to the heart of that dynasty right most of the guys through a left showed up and benefited

From being a part of it. They didn't they weren't really the guys driving the bus these guys walking out the door knew what it took

To be that great. I actually wondered whenever

The 50th the initial 53

Comes out in august when we go through and see how many guys in the team have won a super bowl because my guess is that the number is going to be

Less than we think even though the chiefs are only

You know, we'll only have two seasons without a super bowl

I think we could see somewhere of you know 40% of the roster hasn't actually won one something of that nature

Yeah, I think more than that because I'm looking at it at offense like

I'll just look it's a pretty easy game to play here real quick

I mean rashi rice was there for one. I don't really anyone's talking leadership with him

But he was there

Creed umphery tracemith Travis Kelsey Patrick Mahomes no agree

I don't know that one you I want you more should not survive

Another camp, but he has a ring

But I think there's a good chance that they they replace him

But that I think is it on the offensive side of the ball those six players on the defensive side of the ball grows

Nico on there

He's not still with the team though, is he?

Yeah, yeah, they saw that

I think maybe he was on the just the practice squad that you're in

I'll talk to him seven

George co-optus Chris Jones

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Did tranquil grab he was on the yeah, yeah, he got one old tranquil bolt

um Connor

Yes there rookie that's five um

Did hicks was he on the roster for the for the last year. No, no

Okay, so so five on the defensive side of the ball then Harrison Tucker Winchester

Arise it was not so

13 14

Yeah, man, there's total. I mean the turnover on a roster nobody really realizes it because it's it's never

50 of 53

But it's always like 15 of 53 and because this team keeps its head coach and keeps its quarterback and keeps its start tight and keeps its start defensive tackle

So I think a lot of people just think

saying group yeah, and

Um, yeah, man. I mean, it's gonna be a lot of these and you know, we talked about this

I think at one point, but there's a lot of guys who came into this thing

And I think felt part of the dynasty when they hadn't really done anything to contribute to it yet

And you come in you've got that the SPN documentary going on and and suddenly, you know, you're part of it and

You've got to contribute to it now and man when you've got that fewer guys that have actually happened

Part of the reason that this thing has been called a dynasty

There should be a lot of guys that that have a wake-up call that they've got to do their their part if they want to get back to where they had been

Yeah, I think it's a great point. I mean it because

I got the feeling that like Xavier worthy strikes me as one of those guys

Yeah, and

How you're more with college coaches when a team wins a championship

They usually then get a great recruiting class back in the day when it wasn't just about money

Like everybody wants to go play for the champion and they come in and they're a championship player

Right and that they don't understand all the work that needed to be done

And it's on the seniors to tell what it was like and how they work for three or four years to get to that point to be a champion

And do all that kind of stuff means if you're worthy came in

I've always had the field not that he's a bad guy but that like you know, yeah, I'm I'm a champion and and you know

I that they they need he needs to be hungry right to produce he needs to be hungry to produce statistically

And that's where the contract year is now it's not he's not at it

But he'll be at it the following year and right now

What if Xavier worthy were a free agent right now? What kind of contract do you throw in Xavier worthy?

I mean at some point hopefully that is the incentive as well like a lot of guys haven't done anything

Just to elevate themselves as a player let alone be a champion

I you know, yeah, I mean he doesn't have the production that Romeo dobs does and you know dobs has never had a thousand yard season

I think he's average about what seven eight hundred yards a season

Wide receivers make something like he'd get picked up and make something but

He's he's not cash and in huge money relatively speaking to what the wide receiver market is

Good, I'm gonna say too and then they've been we'll see if somebody's free

He just coming in here brings some of that fire. I mean, I think you you I was even tire of Matthew showed up

He brought a lot of

Leadership and energy. I think you just gonna read did the same thing when he came to town

But it's it's hard to get that and it's just I think about this class as well

This 22 class final point is that when they showed up they were coming off as the champs boss

But's kicked by the bucket ears your earlier that group was hungry and they got to feel that and they got to bring it back

Right, they got to be a part of something that was

Historic but the same is right like the guys who are here now

Have you got to go playing or the guy's the eagle's we got beat ass six and loving and you know a lot more guys

Got a lot more gymnast now and

That's hard to hard to build championship team like that. Can I can I point out that we missed a very obvious name to add to the list

Which is Kenneth Walker has also won the Super Bowl and

Disappointed in our calm. I'm gonna call out our comments section because this is the exact type of stuff

They they correct us on and they're nowhere to be seen on that one

Yes, I bite it Tommy

Where were you on on on correcting us on that so where they go with those first three picks

Jeff, I mean, what do you think nine 29 and in 40 look like now that you know the bulk of the free agent lifting has been done

I think it's gonna be premier players and I go back to what Brett Beach was saying at the combine and he talked about

Both free and seeing the draft him at a point about talking about how hard it is to get players

At the premier positions premier positions and so you have opportunity to get them

Because they're not coming up and free and see if they do come up. They cost a lot and so I'm I'm thinking

Edge has got to be there obviously

I think receivers got to be in that conversation and I think corner is going to be in that conversation

I think those those three it be I'd be surprised that was one of those three if all three weren't part of that count of that combination

Sam what do you what do you feel in like with those first few picks?

Yeah, I mean, I think it looks like they think that they can solve edge and

Get some help at receiver in the draft and this is where it goes back to the tight spot that that the chiefs have been and and I think maybe it signals

These weird scenarios what they would do in them the weird scenarios that we had

Prompted what was it like a week or two ago of like what if the best player on the boards of safety

What if the best player on the boards align backer what if the best player on the boards are running back

I think what the chiefs have done so far

Signals is that no going with the premium position and if it's for the reason that Jeff mentioned is

This free agency market has just reiterated not illuminated but reiterated what we already knew which is these positions are just

Unbelievable money and free agency you've got to solve them during the draft

Yeah, and which means that they're not necessarily adhering to what they said was the key to the 2022 draft class that going in with an agenda

And so if those edges all fly off the board

Then what do you do right are you trading back and getting somebody that second tier still a good player

But but is second tier or are you moving up because you're all in on the edge and holy cow

They just went two and four and we've got three guys earmarked as ones

We got to get up to like six or seven like because eight nine are our

You know or they're nine seven eight are problems

You know to take this player so we've got to go do it. Yeah, I think I think edge wide out

I corner detaq I think the one thing I will say is they have so many needs

That like they're at premium spots. Yeah, you know they could they could live up to that like okay

We're taking premium spots and still be pretty flexible on on what they're doing because they do

Need all of those positions and so from that standpoint

They'll be filling a need whichever one they take but

I'd still look at it and trade back

Seems to be like the best plan because they need volume

And while you may not you know you're not going to get Derek Thomas at pick

16 17 18

But you can get George Carloftus there and I think another George Carloftus

And then another you know good defensive tackle into the rotation

Also the defensive looks a lot better if they can actually pressure the quarterback and

And have lots of people then Chris. It's not all on Chris Jones

You know, then you know, you can scheme a little bit more on on getting there. So yeah, I think I think it'll be interesting

What they do up up at the top. So we'll see I'll listen you can always support the red golden bold

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