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Who Is the Right's Next “Cleanup Hitter”? + One Year Without Charlie Kirk - Sept 8 Hr 3
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Pags and the crew tackle a huge question for the conservative movement: Who steps up next? Is Vice President JD Vance the future of the Republican Party, could Marco Rubio eventually make a run for the White House, and has Rubio shown a side of himself that even Pags didn't know was there? With Vance already drawing significant 2028 attention, Pags uses a baseball analogy to ask who the conservative movement's next "cleanup hitter" really is. Then, with the 25th anniversary of 9/11 approaching, Pags reflects on just how dramatically America—and New York City politics—have changed since that seemingly normal week before the attacks. Kay Hill returns for Part 2 as the one-year anniversary of Charlie Kirk's assassination approaches. Kirk's influence on young conservatives remains significant, while Turning Point USA continues trying to carry his political and organizational legacy forward. Can anyone fill the void he left? And with Republicans gathering in Dallas for an unusual midterm convention this week, Pags and Hill dig into the GOP's messaging challenge and the future voices competing to shape the party.
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