Will Trump Finally End The Iran War?

We welcome everybody to the Southern Report. I am your host Alex Numenit is March 23rd,

2026. If you're hearing us later, thanks for tuning in. If you're hearing us live,

thanks for tuning in. We appreciate you all so much. So much going on with the war in Iran, a

dramatic apparent U-turn from the president will be breaking all that down and much more. Also,

people arguing that his latest threats might constitute a war crime. We'll break all of that down

with Andrew Mueller. We've also got some very special guests joining us today. The latest on the

great reset folks, Justin Haskins, Vice President of Heartland Institute. It's going to be joining us

today. He's got a new book on this incredibly significant topic. Long story short, they have a

mechanism now to make sure you own nothing. I don't know how they're going to make you happy, but

the systems are already in place to take your stocks and your bonds and all of your security. So

you won't want to miss that segment with Justin. We also have Che on one of the leading Republican

candidates for governor of California joining us to talk about whether California is too far gone

for the Republican party and what he might do as a governor. They've got an interesting jungle

primary system there. And right now, you actually have two Republicans in the lead. So stay tuned

for all that. Now, before we get started, we got a word from the word. This comes at a Philippians

chapter four versus six and seven. The Bible reads, do not be anxious about anything, but in everything,

by prayer and supplication with Thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God and the peace

of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

Amen. Amen, folks. I know it's an easy time to be anxious. There's a lot to be anxious about

if we're quite honest with ourselves, the food prices, the energy prices, the prospect of more

war. I'm hearing that America is actually in some pretty significant danger. We'll talk about this

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that will last for decades. Now, I want to turn to the news now, folks. There's a lot going on, but

President Trump now says he has postponed the military strikes. He was planning on Iranian power

stations after threatening just this weekend. He was going to obliterate them if the Iranian regime

didn't reopen the strait of horror moves within 48 hours. Trump to his truth social said he had had

very good and productive conversations over the last two days, and that he was going to postpone

those strikes on Iranian power plants, where all these discussions continue. He says all

of this obviously is subject to the success of the ongoing meetings and discussions. Iran's

so-called defense council said Monday the only way that non-beligerent ships would be able to pass

through there is if they coordinate with Iran, and they say any attack on the Iranian coast would

trigger mime laying all across these incredibly important shipping lanes. Now, Iran also threatened

to start cutting internet sea cables. Folks, something like 95 to 99 percent of all global internet

traffic goes through these incredibly significant undersea cables, and about 30 percent of the world's

internet traffic actually passes right under the strait of horror moves. Folks, there are 20 plus

cables in that active war zone, and folks, if these were to be cut, it would be very, very interesting

times, folks. We need to be paying attention to all that's going on here, and Iran has officially

joined the meme war as well. They released this really strange little cartoonish meme

threatening Trump and the United States. Check this out.

Well, there you go, folks. Modern day warfare via memes.

Kind of weird. Sorry if you couldn't see that, but White House, of course, has also been releasing

things like that. Now, the fake news providers over at CNN claim that a senior official has told

them that Iran is considering to allow a limited number of oil tankers to go through that

strait of horror moves as long as the oil is traded in Chinese yuan instead of the dollar.

Obviously, folks, this is very significant considering the fact that the dollar is the world's

reserve currency still, mostly because all oil worldwide is basically traded in US dollars. So

this may be a threat to the financial dominance of the US dollar. These are pretty serious

stakes here, folks. It's hard to underestimate this or overestimate this. Now, Trump also, as I

mentioned, threatened to obliterate these power plants in Iran, Democrats in the US Congress,

and the head of the United Nations, I'm talking to the terrorists, are saying this is a potential

war crime. Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts says Trump has no plan to reopen the strait of

horror moves. So he's threatening to attack Iran's civil power plants. This would be a war crime

Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut says he's lost control of the war and he's panicking.

Now, the head of the UN also publicly is saying that this would be a war crime if Trump were to

proceed with this. Andrew Muller, Chief of Operations at Liberty Central Media also contributed

to the new American. Thanks for joining us, Andrew. What do you make of all these latest developments

in the war? I know some people are mad that Trump is now apparently going to leave the regime in

place if they come to the negotiating table. Some people are saying that the regime might already

be gone. Other people have been calling on Trump to back out of this for a long time. The

Neocons, of course, want boots on the ground forever. What do you make of all this? How do people

make sense with all this misinformation coming at us? Well, the first thing is that I don't really

buy that I think the war is winding down. I think a lot of the indicators show that this will

continue. Many new sources are reporting that 2,500 Marines are on their way to Iran, which would

definitely indicate more of a boots on the ground approach. But the administration is kind of

left an open door for themselves because they never fully articulated what the goal was. Was it

regime change? Was it destroying their weapons? Was it taking out their nuclear capabilities?

Which we allegedly did last year and June with the Operation Midnight Hammer when we bombed

the Ford O base with the B2 bombers. So what the goal is and when that goal is accomplished,

of course, is yet to be seen. We're 20 plus days into this war. But I think all the indicators

point to it continuing because of the way the military apparatus has been moving, shifting

Marines to the region. And of course, the straight-of-form moves continuing to be a attention point

despite the president saying we don't need it. But President Trump did say at the time of this

recording today on the 23rd of March that he was in talks with some of the Iranians to negotiate,

but that if they would not come to the table and come to an agreement, we would quote,

bomb our little hearts out. So there's a lot of open questions still. And as far as how people make

this and handle all the news coming at us, so much fake news, so much contradictory news,

I think we just need to look at the official sources of the United States and compare that

to the track record of what the United States officials through the intelligence agencies,

the Department of War have done in the past regarding foreign interventions in the Middle East

and use that as a rubric for the current actions. I think if you do that, you start to see a lot of

disorganization chaos and failure, which, of course, unfortunately leaves a very pessimistic conclusion.

Yeah. Yeah. And I understand why so many people in Trump's base are concerned. I did talk to

some people over the weekend who suggested to me that a lot of this was about communist China

that Iran was basically a forward operating base for the communist Chinese and that they are

planning some sort of big attack on us. Maybe in the not-too-distant future, maybe starting with

Taiwan. So we'll see what all of this means. I, of course, remain very concerned. General Flynn

was kind enough to repost some of my analysis over the weekend to X on the communist China threat.

I would encourage people to stay on top of all these things. It's really significant. I want to turn

to another big issue. Andrew, I know you've followed this closely as well. Joseph Cantu,

served as the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, has resigned. And in his letter,

he said that while he supported the foreign policy that Trump ran on in 2016, 2020, 2024,

he could not support the war in Iran. And it was started by basically the government of Israel

and its American lobby using deception. He says this, I cannot name good conscience, support the

ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation. It's clear that we started

this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. I know a lot of key people

in Trump's base feel that way. Tucker Carlson has publicly indicated that that's what he thinks

happened. And of course, he had Joe Canton, which shows some clips from that. But that Trump

confident Laura Loomer, who I know, says that this is just because Tucker Carlson and Joe Cantu

are Jew haters and they're obsessed with Israel. Here's what Trump himself had to say.

I'll do the first thing. Your director of national counterterrorism,

Joe Cantu, he just resigned today. He said he can't support your conflict with Iran.

What's your reaction to that? Well, I read his statement. I always thought he was a nice guy,

but I always thought he was weak on security, very weak on security. I didn't know him well,

but I thought he seemed like a pretty nice guy. But when I read his statement, I realized that

it's a good thing that he's out because he said that Iran was not a threat. Iran was a threat

every country realized what a threat Iran was. The question is whether or not they wanted to do

something about it. And many people, many of the greatest military scholars are saying for

years that President should have taken out Iran because they wanted a nuclear weapon. They were,

if we didn't do the attack, or if I'll go a step further, if I didn't terminate the Iran

nuclear deal given to us one of the worst deals ever made by Barack Hussein Obama. Remember when

they sent Boeing 757s over there loaded with cash? Yep. Well, here's what Joe Kent had to say about

the idea that Iran was close to getting nuclear weapons. This is him on Tucker Carlson's program.

Was Iran on the verge of getting a nuclear weapon? No, they weren't three weeks ago and this

started and they weren't in June either. I mean, the Iranians have had a religious ruling,

against actually developing a nuclear weapon since 2004. That's been in place since 2004.

That's available in the public sphere. But then also we had no intelligence to indicate

that that Fatoa was being disobeyed or it was on the cusp of being lifted.

Well, who knows what to make of it? My understanding is that the Iranians were in fact enriching

uranium to a very high degree, whether they were planning on using it to obliterate Israel,

which they frequently promised to do. We'll never know, perhaps. But there's some big debate

going on about this in Congress and even a lot of Republicans are starting to get frustrated

with this. Here's Congresswoman Lauren Bober saying she will vote against the requested $200

billion for this war. I will not vote for a war supplemental. No, I am no. I've already told

leadership I am a no on any war supplemental. I am so tired of spending money elsewhere. I am

tired of the industrial war complex getting all of our hard-earned tax dollars. I have folks

in Colorado who can't afford to live. We need America first policies right now and that I'm not

doing that. We need the Save America Act. Fiza with Lawrence. There's a lot of hard lines that I

have right now and we've got to get our act together if we want to keep this majority. And

the path that we're going doesn't look very promising. Should the administration get out of

keeping the majority and let's skip down to number 8.6. Pulsar Scott Rasmussen warned on Wednesday

that if current trends continue with economic competence, Republicans are going to get crushed

in the November midterms. According to the poll, less than one-fourth of Americans of registered

voters say that their personal finances are improving as a decrease of five percentage points

just in the last two weeks. And 39% of the respondents to this poll actually say their personal

finances have gotten worse. That's an increase of eight points over the last two weeks. And of

course, voters tend to vote based on their wallet. And if people feel like their economic well-being

is threatened, they are likely to vote against the Republican Party. So this could cost the Republican

Party big time in the upcoming polls. Before we get into some of the latest developments in what's

going on, including drones flying around near US bases, this weekend, pastor at my church

preached about just war principles. And I think it's worthwhile to look at them again. Over 2,000

years of Christian history, Christians have read their Bible and have said there are certain things

that we can get from the Bible about war. The Bible doesn't always condemn war. There is a time

for war as Ecclesiastes tells us. But it does put some limitations on it. It puts limitations on

when one can go to war. It also puts some limitations on how that war is prosecuted. And so this

really began with St. Augustine and even before. But some of the principles that have been distilled,

first of all, if it's going to be a just war, it has to be a last resort. That means all nonviolent

options have to have been exhausted before violence is used. A war can only be waged by a legitimate

authority. You can't just declare yourself a general and start a war. And so here we have

the Constitution of the United States requires that Congress declare war. But it's very important

that a legitimate authority be the one to declare the war, not just any willing, nearly individual,

calling himself a warlord. Wars can only be fought to redress wrongs that have been suffered.

So self-defense, of course, would be a just cause. And it's only a just war if it can be fought

with right intentions. Principle number four is a war can only be just if it's fought with a

reasonable chance of success. If there's no hope of winning, then having a whole bunch of people

dying, a whole bunch of stuff destroyed, is not a good idea. The ultimate goal of a just war

has to be to reestablish peace. In other words, peace comes after the war. Violence in the war

has to be proportional to the injury suffered, right? You can't turn a country into a parking lot

because they launched a firecracker at you. And then at last, but not least, the weapons used

in the war have to be able to, in some ways, discriminate between combatants and non-combatants.

Civilians must never be a target in a war. Yes, sometimes there is what they call collateral

damage. There are sometimes unavoidable civilian casualties, but civilians must never be targeted.

Christians have understood this for many, many centuries. There's also right conduct in the war,

right? There has to be discrimination between combatants and civilians. It has to be proportional.

You don't want to use cruelty or unjustified harm. And of course, there has to be accountability.

Soldiers who commit crimes or war crimes need to be held accountable after the war is done

if it can't be done during the war. Andrew, what's your take on what's going on with the politics

of all this? So we've got the midterm coming up. We've got churches starting to talk about this now.

We've got people concerned about their economic situation. And I suspect the economic situation is

going to get a lot worse. Where do you think this is going from a political perspective with the

midterms coming up really the cycle starting in just a few months? I don't think it's going to be

good for Republicans, Alex, because they have not delivered on anything election security, the

affordability crisis, mass migration, and securing our border and actually deporting people.

None of this has happened in a significant way. Of course, we are also promised to drain the swamp,

abolish the deep state, get rid of the Department of Education. None of these things have transpired.

And of course, the Iran war is looming over all of this. Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House,

suggested an interview with Michael Knowles, and in it, he said, don't worry, I'm not concerned

about how Iran is going to impact the midterms because Americans, quote, have a short term memory

and forget things quickly. So they're banking on our ignorance that we're not going to do

our due diligence on this. And I have to say, Alex, people are missing the context, our smart readers

who read the New American magazine, the Liberty Sentinel, they know this. But a lot of people are

missing the context that the reason we're even here in the first place, Alex is because in the 1950s,

the U.S. Operation AJAX with MI6 to overthrow the Iranian Prime Minister MozaDec because

the oil industry and Iran was being nationalized, which was hurting British petroleum.

And then the United States ousted the Shah of Iran, who was the last true kind of royalty monarch

in Iran, who westernized the country, even sold oil to Israel under his tenure. And the United

States pushed him out in a black male campaign leading to the rise of the Ayatollah. So there does

come a point in time where I think we have to ask ourselves, are we capable of making nations

across the world better? And I think the answer to that's no. And I think Republicans understand,

at least the people who are Trump's base, the local guys, they understand the answer to that is

no. So I don't think the midterms are going to go well for those reasons. And historically, the

party in the White House typically gets smacked in the midterms. And so yeah, they've got a lot of

headwinds going into this. And of course, there are the spiritual implications of this war and the

theological implications and the prophetic implications. You've got the Iranians, the Shia Muslims,

they think that there's some kind of end times prophecy at play here. You've got a lot of

different Jewish factions who are interested in rebuilding the third temple. You've got various

Christian understandings of eschatology that play into this. And so there's a lot of different

factors at play here, but the political, the economic and the religious implications are hard

to overstate in this really, really significant battle. And we're now seeing what appear to be

some direct threats to the quote-unquote homeland that we've got a US Air Force base that has

B-52 bombers capable of carrying nuclear weapons, detecting multiple unauthorized drones in

the vicinity just this month. That's according to base officials talking to news outlets.

Barksdale Air Force Base spokesman told Fox News that the Air Force Base detected multiple

unauthorized drones operating in our airspace, flying over a drone over a military installation

is not only a safety issue, it's a criminal offense under federal law. Yeah, somebody ought to

tell the people who are flying those in the question is where are these drones coming from? Who

is operating them? What in the world is going on here? Yeah, definitely some cause for concern.

Now, turning more to Congress, Congress is returning to session this week. You've got Democrats

and Republicans struggling to come up with a deal to fund the Department of Homeland Security.

Of course, Congress is the one that mandated that every airport would have to have these TSA

teams, you know, taking your water away and checking your toothbrush and making sure

your nail clippers aren't too big. But they won't fund that TSA because they're upset about ice.

So we'll see where this goes. But Trump announced that he's going to now to be deploying hundreds

of ice agents at airports all across the United States, starting today, March 23rd. This comes

as travelers across the country are experiencing huge delays at airport security across big parts

of the country. Border, Zara, Tom Homan, who is leading the Ice Deportation effort and the

deployment to airports says he's still working on the plan. But agents are going to monitor entry

and exit points at the airports. And so we'll see what happens with this. But we are hearing now rumors

that there is a deal in the works to pass the SAVE Act on supposed election security that may

include sneak amnesty. According to Brightbart, they've got a report titled Mullen. There's a

possible conversation about legalizing some in the U.S. illegally. This was broadcast on Fox News

Radio's bill Ben Kilmead Show. Sounds like there are discussions right now in the U.S. Congress

to legalize a whole bunch of illegal aliens with amnesty in exchange for passing this SAVE Act.

So very, very important that folks pay attention to this, folks. Now, I want to share with you

just quickly the best argument against voter ID that I've ever seen. Is agreeing to voter ID

one of those compromises that you'd support? I don't think that we should

underestimate what that could mean. Because in some people's mind, that means, well, you're going to have to

zero access or our photocopy your ID to send it in to proof you are who you are. Well, there are

a whole lot of people, especially people who live in rural communities who don't. There's no

kinkos. There's no office max near them. People have to understand that when we're talking about

voter ID laws, be clear about who you have in mind and what would be required of them to prove who

they are. Of course, people have to prove who they are, but not in a way that makes it almost

impossible for them to prove who they are. Okay, if you're not convinced, I don't know what

will convince you. Speaking of this issue, let's go to 11 Annie Supreme Court Monday. Today is

looking into now this issue of mail-in voting. They're looking at a law in Mississippi that allows

the state to count ballots that are mailed in on time, but arrive after election day. A lot of

states have similar laws, and the Trump administration has, of course, argued against this. We'll see

how it turns out. We'll keep you posted. Now, over the last few days, we've had big revelations about

United Farm Worker Leader. It says our chavez. Apparently, he was raping women, abusing women,

beating up illegal aliens on the border. And whoops, Democrats are now apparently surprised that

this guy that they made a holiday after they named schools and parks and buildings after him

was actually a rapist and a con man. Well, not everybody's surprised.

Friend of ours who served in the California legislature, Steve Baldwin actually sounded the alarm

about this 26 years ago when California Democrats were drooling all over him. Postes real quickly

on vaccines because we're going to have to go to break. For a recent 10-minute interview on

One American News, you've got the most recent president of the Pennsylvania Funeral Directors Association,

Chris Calvy reporting that he's personally seen these enormous white,

fagrous clots coming out of the dead body, the dead bodies that he's been involving,

something like 30 to 40 percent of them just over the last five years since the injection

program was unveiled. He says these clots are the size of arteries. He says you cannot ignore this

and somebody has got to get to the bottom of it. Meanwhile, a federal court has blocked

Robert F. Kennedy's changes to the vaccine program. They've been validated. The new vaccine

advisory panel. We actually had the co-chair of that panel on a special edition of this program.

We're talking about Dr. Robert Malone. So the federal judge just last week blocked these changes

and went back to the old one. So instead of 30 vaccine recommendations, injection recommendations

for children, there's not going to be 80 again. And all this was brought to you by the American

Academy of Pediatrics, which if you can see on your screen right now, is brought to you by Pfizer

and a whole bunch of other mega vaccine pushes. These are literally the corporate sponsors of

the AAP. And so as for me and my household, we will not be visiting any pediatricians ever

that are members of the AAP. That's a litmus test for me. But thankfully, we've got a new poll

coming out in a recent national survey by John Zogby's strategy. It's done that 91 percent of

voters agree that every individual has a right to make informed decisions about his or her

medications, vaccines and medical interventions. And they have the right to inform consent. So we

are grateful that the tide is turning here. And folks, stay with us. We ran out of time for news.

But get over to LibertyCentral.org and stay with us. We're going to be right back after this quick

break with an incredible interview with my friend Justin Haskins, author of a brand new book on

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Welcome back to the Center of Report, Alex, I'm in your host here. Folks,

we've been talking for a long time about the great taking, and you know, we knew it was bad,

like we knew it was really bad, but after you read the book written by my next guest,

it's even worse than really bad. It's hard to put into words how terrifying this scenario is.

Not necessarily because we'll all lose our money. I mean, we don't want to store our treasure here

on Earth. We've got to store it in heaven and all that. You know, God will take care of us.

But because of what it represents from a freedom perspective, if they seize control over all of

our assets, all of the wealth and the wealth producing assets in the world, like all the public

companies, the idea that freedom could survive in that kind of scenario is ludicrous.

So I'm talking, of course, about the great taking. We've had David Webb on this program. We've

had Don Grant on this program. We've talked about it for a long time. I've written articles about

it, but nobody has done a deep dive like our next guest. His name is Justin Haskins.

He is a great American. He's the vice president of the Heartland Institute, and he's also got

an incredible new book just released this year. It's called The Next Big Crash Conspiracy

and the Men Behind the Biggest Heist in History. Justin, welcome to the program. Thanks very

much for joining us. Yeah, thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to have you. Justin, so for those who

maybe have not been tuning in to this program for the last year, maybe they never even heard the

term great taking. Let's just start with that for our newer viewers, our newer listeners. What do we

mean when we're talking about the great taking? What is the setup that has taken place here?

Yeah, so essentially this is at its most foundational level about property rights.

Several decades ago, beginning in the 1960s and 1970s, big powerful institutions on Wall Street

and in banking started lobbying state lawmakers all across the state and successfully so to change

laws. They also did this in Congress as well, so that you no longer as the individual investor

directly own the investments that you pay for, securities investments. We're talking about

things like stocks and bonds, the stuff that's in your retirement account. People think when they buy

these things that they become the direct registered owner of them, but in reality, they do not.

Instead, all of the ownership has transitioned into one gigantic institution called DTC,

the depository trust company. They now hold over $100 trillion in securities investments in this

one place. Then on top of that over the decades that went on after the 1970s, more laws were changed.

So that big financial institutions would be or could be bailed out in the event of a catastrophic

crash. It doesn't necessarily have to go that way. It depends on how the rules and regulations are

written in the moment of the crash, but the bottom line is because you don't directly own

these securities investments. Because of these laws that have been built on top of

the existing regulations pertaining to DTC and securities investments generally, it is possible

that you could lose everything in the next crash. That big financial institutions would end up

swallowing up huge amounts of these securities in order to be stabilized so that these two big-to-fail

institutions don't collapse along with whatever the next big crash incurs.

Yeah, I mean, we're talking about the theft of virtually everything. I mean, maybe not your house,

maybe not your car, but like all of these securities, the stocks, bonds, and consolidation of

economic power, like we've never seen, at least in this country, I mean, certainly the Soviet Union

and Communist China have seen centralized economic power like that. But I mean, the implications

are so huge. I think a lot of people are struggling to even believe it's real. And I'll be

honest, Justin, when I first heard about this, that was my response to that. That couldn't be.

Like, we obviously would know if they had changed his laws like this. And then I got a call

from Jack who wrote the book with you and a mutual friend and he's like, no, actually,

we looked at the laws and they did change them that way into Republican states and Democrat states.

It's just it's so huge. It's hard to process. It's hard to comprehend. But there's a few things

that I learned from your book that I really want to get into today as time permits. And one of them

is the guy who set up this whole architecture, the guy who literally was put in charge of

the organization that you mentioned has a really interesting background, William Denser,

former CIA. Tell us about this man. Yeah, it's absolutely incredible. This was the thing that

really convinced me that there's more to this story than just big financial institutions

getting together and deciding they want to make a lot of money because they have made a lot of

money off of this whole system and they will continue to make a lot of money off of this system

even if there never is a crash and there is no transfer of wealth to these big institutions.

They still make tons of money by having all of this wealth centralized into one institution.

But I became convinced that there was more to this story when I learned about William Denser.

William Denser was the first person put in charge of this DTC project

which launched in 1973. And William Denser was completely totally unqualified for this job.

It made no sense. The most powerful people on Wall Street picked somebody who had no experience

on Wall Street to run the most important institution on Wall Street. It just doesn't make any sense

at all and yet that's what they did. If you trace back William Denser's history, you realize

he had several jobs in New York that he was completely unqualified for. He was the head bank

regulator in New York. He was totally unqualified for that job. He was put in charge of this

economic commission. He was one of the top people in this economic commission, a domestic policy

project of the governor of New York at the time. He was completely unqualified for that, had no

experience in that realm of things at all. And what you realize is the deeper you dive into

this man's history, the stranger the story gets. And there probably is, I can't be 100% certain,

but probably is a lot more going on here. William Denser got his start in the early 1950s as a

student activist, a progressive anti-communist, student activist. And he was the president of this

big national student association, one of the largest in the country at the time, maybe the largest

in the country at the time. He became president of it. And during that period of time, while he was

president in the early 1950s, the CIA started secretly funding this organization. We, the public

didn't know about it until I think the late 1960s. So for a very long time, the CIA was illegally

funding this student organization and helping to use it as a propaganda tool to fight, they said,

to fight communism in the United States. After William Denser left this job as being the head of

this National Student Association, he ended up doing a similar kind of thing in Europe, which was

also funded by the CIA. And then he ends up in the CIA as an officer. He serves in the CIA for

several years, leaves the CIA, ends up in the State Department under President Kennedy, where he

helped create USAID, another CIA funded project. Then he was involved in all kinds of propaganda

efforts in South America, where he was, you know, trying to, in some cases, create instability and

other cases, prop up foreign regimes that were friendly to the United States. And all of this leads

to Peru in the late 1960s, his last stop before going to New York, inexplicably taking these positions

he was unqualified for was he was the USAID director of Peru at a time when there was a big fight

over an oil company, a US oil company in Peru. The locals there, a lot of the local politicians

and people were angry about the oil fields being occupied by this US oil company. This is something

that had been going on for at least a half century. And they were really unhappy about it. During

William Denser's final year in Peru, there was a military coup that overthrew the government

and installed a whole new government that then seized this oil field. This oil field was owned by a

company called the International Petroleum Company, which just so happens to be a subsidiary

of standard oil, which is a Rockefeller owned oil company. And William Denser, what does he do

as soon as he leaves Peru when this whole thing is going on? He ends up in New York where he's

appointed to all the positions I mentioned earlier by who Nelson Rockefeller. So there's something

crazy going on here. And I've tried like heck to figure out exactly what's going on. But there's

just too many unknowns. But it seems obvious that this just can't be a coincidence that they would

put this guy of all guys of all the people. They could have had anybody and they chose him.

This is a really insane story and the details of it get even crazier and crazier as a outline

in the book. Yeah. And folks, you need to get a copy of the book. I was sent to an

advanced review copy to write an endorsement and I read it and was blown away. And I thought I

already knew a lot about the great reset, but I can't tell you. I learned so much from this book.

It's really, really good. And this is for me one of the really critical pieces. I mean, you've got

a guy who's associated with the Central Intelligence Agency, the Rockefeller dynasty, which by the way

helped Klaus Schwab through Henry Kissinger set up his World Economic Forum, the great reset people,

Justin actually wrote a book on the great reset. But everybody knows by now the World Economic

Forum's little predictions by 2030 that you'll own nothing. And to me, at least this seems like

one of the mechanisms that will do that. But this book is really, really informative. Before we

let you go today, Justin, I do want to get your take. I know you say in the book, I'm not a financial

advisor. I say the same thing. I won't give you financial advice, but I'll tell you what I have

done myself. So I want to get your take on how we might protect ourselves from that. But

we've had some legislators on this program who've been trying to address this issue.

We have asked them what their experience was like. And what we have been told is that initially,

there's a lot of enthusiasm. When people find out that this is a problem, Republicans, Democrats,

everybody wants to fix this. And then once the process gets underway, there's shadowy forces that

come out of the woodwork, the big lobbyists and everything, and try to quash it. Let's start with

what are the prospects of reversing this or stopping this before a big hypothetical crash comes

and some of these plans actually the financial armageddon plans actually get executed?

Yeah, there's certain guardrails that state lawmakers because a lot of this is done at the state

level. Certain guardrails that could be put into place that would make sure that individual

investors are protected in the event of a catastrophic, well, a catastrophic crash. It wouldn't be

100% protection. In order to do that, you would have to go and completely blow up the existing

ownership model, the DTC model, and give ownership back to individuals. And that would be extremely,

extremely difficult to do. So the first step in this process is just putting common sense protections

in place. That's what some state lawmakers and places like Tennessee have been trying to do over

the past several years. And as you noted, this has been fought. It has been really ugly at the

state level bank regulate a bank lobbyists have come in industry lobbyists, the uniform law

commission people, which are the people who help mostly lawyers and academics who are behind the

uniform commercial code have come in and basically scared the heck out of lawmakers telling them all

kinds of things that I think in many cases are just completely untrue about this situation. It's

a wild conspiracy theory. In some cases, they just don't even read the whole section of the law

when the law very clearly says there are risks in here. You can see it for yourself. Anyone can

look at it. They'll tell lawmakers that there isn't. And so they're scaring people into believing

that they can't change anything about the system. They can't give any ownership rights back to

people. They can't do anything to protect individual investors in the event of a crash or else

the entire system will implode. And in some cases, there's certain things you couldn't do overnight

without causing a lot of problems. But there are protections that can be put into place. And people

like Don Grande and others have worked really, really hard to design those things so that it wouldn't

cause a lot of other problems. And lawmakers are just being scared into believing that there's

nothing that they can do. But that just flat out isn't true. Yeah. Well, let's hope that some lawmakers,

at least in some states, can get a handle on this because I personally think we're headed for

some tough economic times. And I would hate to see all these people who think they're close to

retirement figure out that whoops, the big banks now have your stocks and your bonds. Just

terrible, terrible stuff. Justin, if anybody can get the word out, you can. I mean, you're all

over the place. You have worked very closely with Glenn Beckett. I heard you talking to Glenn

back about this issue on his program, biggest in the country. You're regular on Fox. So we

all wish you well in getting the word out about this. But a really important question. And I get

this question all the time. I wish it wasn't the most frequent question I get, but it is.

What do I do with my money? That's what everybody wants to know. What do I do with my money? And I

know you're not a financial advisor and you won't give financial advice, but give us some insight

maybe into what you have done to try to insulate yourself from the potential for this, what you call

the greatest heist in American history. Yeah. The thing that people need to understand is that

the reason this is problematic, this whole system is because you don't directly own the securities

investments and you also don't directly own the cash that you put in the bank. Most people don't

realize that either, but that's also in the law. And so what you need to do is at least have some

of your wealth, a sizable chunk of it, at least this is what I'm doing, tied up in things where you

do have direct ownership of it. So precious metals is a really good example of that. Like gold and

silver. When you have physical gold and silver, you are the direct owner of it. And so you have

really strong property rights to that gold and silver. It doesn't mean the government can't come

and take it away from you because they've tried to do stuff like that before in the past,

but you have only one other case. Yes. 1933, right? Exactly.

Or FDR. But all right. So precious metals outside the system. I love it. What else?

Yeah. Precious metals having cash on hand is really important.

Investing in things like real estate is a much better and safer investment in a lot of ways,

investing in land. Things that are, again, that you're the direct registered owner of valuable

historical artifacts, you know, things like that. I mean, things that have real tangible value.

That's what you want to focus on. And again, it doesn't mean you can't invest in securities too.

It's just I just think that it's important for people to diversify as much as possible and to not

think, Oh, the system is secure. The system is safe. If I put the money in this, I'll be protected.

That the law is very clear. You are not guaranteed anything as a result of this. The rules and

regulations could change overnight. And then suddenly you could be at risk of losing absolutely

everything if the system really needed it. And that's the thing that we're warning people about.

Just be aware that it isn't as safe as a lot of these people say it is.

Yeah, very important warning. And as you point out in the book, there have already been court cases

where they have looked at these things. And you know, they they've passed the smell test, at least

as far as the courts are concerned. And so this is a very real threat, folks. Again, you can check

out the book. Justin, you've done work in other areas that I think are directly related to this.

In fact, even in the book, you talk about central bank digital currencies. As I mentioned,

you wrote a whole book on the great reset. We know Klaus Schwab was a big proponent of this kind

of whole reimagining of the economic system, you know, the shareholder capitalism, whereas the

corporations must also serve the governments. I mean, it talks, it seems like they're trying to

create a whole new global financial system that would kind of do away with like what's left of

the free market and move us more, I mean, to me, and it's my word, it looks more like fascist

than than market oriented. What's the big goal here? What's the big agenda of some of these

really powerful players and institutions that are involved in this? Yeah, the goal is very clear.

And they've made this very clear. It's to it's to use the private sector, working hand in hand with

government to direct how everybody in the West lives. And in the future, how everyone in the world

lives, they want to use economic power to transform society, culturally, economically,

in terms of your rights, what you can say, what you can do, that it's so clear. If you

listen carefully to what the World Economic Forum people have been saying for many, many decades,

this is the whole idea of what stakeholder capitalism is all about. We, we,

transform society by transforming how capital can be used and how corporations operate on a day-to-day

basis. And so when the world started going nuts, especially post-COVID, and people were looking

around saying, why are all these big corporations suddenly involved in every single political

and cultural cause? You can imagine what is going on here. The root of that was that there were,

this ESG system behind the scheme, social credit scoring. There was a lot of money being put into

this model of transforming society through corporate action. And they're doing it through banking.

They've been doing it through insurance companies. They have farm distributors that are doing this.

The European Union is trying to export this through laws like the corporate sustainability,

due diligence directive, the CSDD. There's all kinds of schemes in the West to do this. The

Trump administration has been fighting back against all of these things and trying to move in a

more America first direction. But there is no question that this is the long-term plan. If we get,

when we get, another Democrat president, almost certainly we're going to head back in the same sort

of great reset. They won't call it that, but a great reset direction where government and big

corporations and banks and by other financial institutions work hand in hand to force a transformation

of society. Yep, 2020 all over again. Justin, are you optimistic that we can stop them?

No. Look, I think there's always hope. There's always hope. And I do believe that the best way to stop

them is for people to learn about what's going on. If you just look at the work that you've done,

the work that I've done in my colleagues and Jack McFair and a whole bunch of other organizations,

ESG has been in large parts significantly slowed down as a result of people just learning about

what's going on. And my hope is with this book, the next big crash, the same kind of thing can happen

in this realm. And if we fight battle after battle after battle, maybe we can get enough people

aware of what's going on that it will stop this thing in its tracks. But it's going to take a very

long time to unwind these systems that have been built by elites over many decades. Yeah, but we

got to do it for the sake of our children, for the sake of our posterity. There's no choice.

Justin the book, again, the next big crash conspiracy collapse and the men behind history's biggest

heist folks. I recommend it very strongly. Get yourself a copy. And I didn't even mention I should

have all the profits that are being made on this book are going right into the battle to fight against

it. So Justin's not getting rich on selling this book. He's using the money that the book is earning

to plow into the fight against this takeover. Justin, Amazon, the best place to get the book.

Yes, sir. All right, very good. And wherever else, good books are sold. Justin has,

because thank you very much for joining us. Thank you for all the work that you're doing. And

please keep us updated on this and other issues. We really appreciate your work.

Thanks Alex. God bless. God bless you too. All right, folks, stay with us. Get a copy of that book. We'll

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Welcome back to the Southern Report. Thanks for being with us. Folks, Alex, name your host here.

And a lot of conservatives, a lot of Republicans have kind of written off California as the land of

fruits and nuts and flakes. There's no hope for the Republican Party. It's a one-party state forever

communism coming soon. Hey, just build that wall right along the border with California.

But our next guest says all hope is not lost yet for the state of California. He's running

actually for governor in the state as a Republican. And he says he can win Pastor Che on. He's been

in ministry for a long time born in South Korea. He is the pastor at Harvest Rock Church.

And he's one of the leading Republican candidates for governor of California. Pastor, welcome to

the program. Thank you very much for joining us today. Well, thank you, Alex. This is a

joy to be with you. And let me just say this is impossible for me to win, but with God, all things

are possible. And I just wanted to just use one illustration. Even though you're right, it's almost

like a Marxist state, one-party state. During the lockdown 2020, I was led by the Holy

Spirit to sue governor Newsom for the discrimination of our First Amendment rights. I mean, think about

abortion clinics were open marijuana dispensaries were open because marijuana is legal here,

liquor stores, a strip club, but not the church. And so on July the 2nd, talking to my attorney,

Matt Staver, Liberty Council, I sued governor Newsom and I immediately got a letter from the

district attorney saying they're going to arrest me for one year and find our church 4.5 million

dollars. And then they said, if you continue to open even after you're in jail and people still

have meet, we will arrest your church members. So how draconian, how Marxist is that is just a

totalitarian. It wasn't through legislation. He just had an executive order. He just called

the shots and said, everything's being locked down except for what I want to open. Of course,

he went to French laundry. His vineyard was open, but all the wine vineyards were closed down,

but not his. And of course, restaurants were closed down. 18,000 businesses went bankrupt during

that time, but he eats at the French laundry, $1,000 a plate. And so the no man's hypocrisy,

the hypocrisy. So I sued and by God's grace, I went all the way to Supreme Court and by February

the 5th, even John Roberts cited with me, I won six three and got a $1.3 million settlement,

which we obviously paid our attorneys for their incredible work they did. So I beat the system

back then, extremely left state. And I believe by God's grace, I can win again in California.

Wow, praise the Lord. So obviously, California has been moving in the wrong direction, exhibit A

being trying to shut down churches. Of course, Hebrews 11 says we must not forsake meeting together

with the brethren. And I'm grateful for you and Pastor John McArthur and the other heroic pastors

who stood against that illegal, unlawful wicked decree. But Pastor, what do you hope to accomplish

as, let's just say, you know, some miracle happens. You win the election, the Democrats get owned,

we have legitimate election. What, what do you do? I mean, does California, can it be rescued

from its current state? No, not just by winning. The politics is not going to correct California.

I'm not a politician. I'm a pastor. I feel I'm a revivalist. I got saved during the Jesus

people movement. I've been a part of the charismatic renewal. I've been part of I was a vineyard pastor.

So I was part of what's called the third wave of John Wimber. And then our church was birthed in

1994 with the influence of the Brownsville Revival in Florida and also Toronto blessing. And so

I've experienced four different revivals, including Revivalists, I experienced in China, India,

Argentina, Brazil. And the reason I say that is because what's going to, what we need in California

is a, it's a spiritual awakening. We need historic revival in California. We're not going to change

California unless we change the spiritual climate and cultural climate in California. And I

believe that's why I'm running because what I'm doing is so unorthodox. I am mobilizing a

million believers in California to pray to fast, to repent. We're going on a 40-day fast,

starting on March 1st and people have been led, how they fast. But we're calling for all these

people who are volunteering to fast. And what we're doing is based on 2nd Chronicles 714. If my

people are called by my name, we'll hum with themselves. Not the world, but the church. I'm calling

the church to do this. Then I'll hear from heaven, forgive their sins and heal the land. And right

now the church needs to repent because we have 12 million evangelicals in California. 6 million

aren't even registered to vote. And the 6 million that do, our register, 3 million won vote.

Because they just have been so passive. They're so discouraged. They say, what difference does

it make? My vote won't matter. But the truth is, is that in the last election with John

Cox and Newsom, the total of voters were 7 million that showed up. And if we could just get

4 or 5 million evangelicals show up, we would win, not only that race, but we could win every race.

So what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to pray fast and to really see spiritual revival, revival

always begins with the churches based on 1 Peter 417. Judgment begins with the House of the Lord.

And so I'm trying to get the church to repent, to be activated, to store their citizenship. I mean,

think about I came as a 5 year old from Korea. And I love United States. I'm a U.S. citizen.

Of course, my parents came legally if I could add that to the United States because you have to

qualify if you're an immigrant nowadays. And of course, we are living the American dream. And I

love this nation. I love California. And I'm seeing California going to hell literally. And so I

want to see salvation, but salvation only comes from Jesus, our savior. And that's what I'm trying

to do. So I'm using the platform, all that to say, I'm using the platform with our win or not.

I am trying to mobilize God's people to pray fast, repent, and to see revival come to California.

Wow. Desperately needed. We're almost out of time. And you're absolutely right. This is ultimately

a spiritual battle. And we're not going to win it by politics alone. But there are quite a few

things that can be accomplished through politics when decent honorable people are in authority.

In the last couple of minutes that we have, Pastor Che, what are some of the things, some of the

policies that you would pursue as governor of California? Right. Well, whatever our bill I pass is

going to be opposed by the Democrats unless we have the spiritual change. But what I'm going to do

is enforce things that have already been passed. For example, in California, we can pass bills that

become law through measures. Proposition 36, for example, is something that passed in 2024 by

almost 70% so Democrats passed that. So what that bill is making a misdemeanor, a felony again.

This goes back 11 years ago when we passed another bill, Proposition 47, that made a felony

into a misdemeanor. So drug pushers, drug addicts, if they're arrested, it was a misdemeanor.

And that's why the homeless situation, 185,000 homeless people who are drug addicts drug pushers

that should be in jail. And so I'm going to have my district attorney enforce things that we have

already passed as law in California. So I don't have to be sued. I don't have. But there's other

things we passed four bills, four dams to be built. And we have a major water problem here.

And so I'm going to say, okay, we have voted for this. I'm going to allocate the resources for

so there's some common sense things. For example, we have men in women's sports and they've

misinterpreted Title IX and I'm just going to correct that because I'm in charge of the school system

as governor. And I'm just going to say no, men cannot play in women's, I mean high school kids

or cannot play in women's sports. So there's certain things I could do legally that I can change

to bring some common sense. I am going to open up the oil production and petroleum that was done

by Biden when he took over and knew some capitulated and agreed with them. We are now paying the

highest gas prices to around $56 a gallon premium. We pay the highest electricity prices.

No, we pay the highest taxes. And now 25% of Californians are living in poverty. We have the

highest unemployment rate. And so all because of our energy policy has been hijacked by extreme

climate change people who worship the climate, this idolatry. I mean, that's why we have to

change spiritually. But there are certain things I can do with executive order. And this to me

is existential because people are just starving. The food prices are direct correlation to the

crude oil. And we have just, for example, in current counter, we have enough crude oil and

just the natural gas to fuel everything. We're now importing 80% of our petroleum from Saudi Arabia

from Kuwait. And of course, that's causing more pollution because they're being brought by

diesel tankers. It's so ridiculous. So much hypocrisy. But I want to bring common sense back to

the Sacramento and do what I can do with policy. But again, the real changes will have to be

through a spiritual awakening. Yeah. Well, it's been fascinating at Pastor Che. We are just about

at a time. But I want to thank you for joining your website for your campaign is Che for CA,

this for California. Yeah, number four. See. Yeah, that's right. See it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes. Thank you. And thank you for coming. I pray that people sign up and be part of the million

Ecclesia prayer warriors. That's the best thing they could do when they want to support me. So

sign up and be one of the ones that will be praying for revival and reformation in California.

Excellent. Well, hey, Pastor Che, thank you very much for joining us. Let's be in touch and a

good look on your campaign. Thank you so much. I'm honored to be with you, Alex. Thank you.

God bless you, Sarah. Thank you. And you folks stay right there. We'll be right back after this quick

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