WORLD ULTIMATE CHAMPIONSHIPS DAY 2 | Melissa Jefferson-Wooden & Kenny Bednarek Win The 100m Titles, Audrey Werro Stays Undefeated In The 800m + More

0:00Welcome to the City of Smack Podcast live from Budapest. I'm Krishov as joined by Kyle Marber. We are still here in Hungary where day two of the world ultimate championships confirmed what we've suspected all along the United States is still very, very good at winning 100 meter titles and running in a straight line when it comes to the track here in Budapest but also confirm the fact that Colin Coeben and Chippy and Marlady Polino are very, very good at running in a circle once. So on today's podcast episode, we're going to be breaking down everything that took place. Melissa Jefferson would enclaiming the 100 meter title 100th off of her best beats the Olympic champion, Beach Shikari Richardson. She has what lost one time since Paris, I think at this point. So we'll talk about that race. Her teammate Kenny Bidnarak also finally, I think, claimed a global title this time in

1:04the 100, not the 200 which many people probably would have suspected. So the patron saint of silver medals finally gets an ultimate title. And you got Colin Coeben and Chippy who ran 43-39 and dominated that four-meter final. Marlady Polino claimed the women's title. We had Audrey Whero just capping an incredible season with the world ultimate title win. So lots of things happened at the track. That's the whole episode. Thanks everyone for joining us today. You forgot the 1500, 1500, Claudio Casmirska making Jerry Schumacher absolutely loses mind. Great video that's already out there on the internet. And the pole vaults, Andy Morris with an emotional victory. So big victories all throughout the day. And I mean we got to the stadium just as the action was going to start. And one, I think I turned to you as soon as we walked in and I was like, I just love this

2:05stadium. It's so beautiful. The fans absolutely packed it out. And we had a little bit of an earlier start today. So it wasn't as cold as yesterday. We had a sunset today. Beautiful sunset. Beautiful sunset. Yeah, it's great. It's funny because I long been pro shorter meets three days like what we need. And now it's like, wait, we only got one more day. I don't know if that's going to be enough to stay shape my appetite for high level traction feel. Seb Co. One said don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened. And so I think he said that I think in the press conference before these world ultimate championships. So yeah, tomorrow's the finale, but we do have a lot to talk about from today. All right. So general vibes. I feel like fans, they, they, it's like what's it going to be?

3:06What do we have to expect? All these different little changes. And then it starts and then people forget. It is just a track meet still like we didn't change the rules. At least on the track and we don't we moderately change rules. But yeah, it is it is it's still a track meet. It's just presented differently. It's a little bit more concise. Fast pace. And it's fast paced and there's everyone you want to see there. And that's it. Like all the little innovations are nice. It makes more palatable. Also at the end of the day, if you've been watching track and feel for the last decade, you're not really the target audience. We already got you. You're it. What I want to hear from the fans who are at home, maybe in this YouTube chat because we're live on YouTube. If you want to chime in with some of your thoughts, want to know what you're liking from. Rose and Thorne. Yeah, Rose and Thorne from watching the TV broadcast.

4:07Yeah. And one of the things that I want to say is that the audience is an agreement. One of the thorns is whoever the intern is who's doing all of the odds of athletes qualifying going into the net. What was the most agree just one today? Atlas and Decentos. Like 57% chance not to win or Marlady Paulina 37% chance to win. The woman who hasn't lost all year. The way Alicins was 57% chance to qualify for a final. Yeah. First off, there's four guys in an eight person heat. So the baseline is everyone would have 50% chance. And then so then Daniel Zikiel, who is not as good as Alicins. Yeah, yeah. And the next he had a 58% chance. So what numbers were crunched ultimately determined that Nathaniel had a better shot than Alicins. Both of you who didn't both were all by about 40%. Yes. And that's the thing. It's like we need the big J's out there to get down to the bottom of who's crunched

5:09these things. Yeah. You know how sometimes like those little mistakes on a social post is like the people just do it to get the comment section going since everyone correcting them. I feel like maybe World Athletics is doing this just to like piss us off and get that. They're like, wow, we're getting a lot of comments. Like, no, people are tweeting about me. Yeah. What's waiting about the percentage chance of stars? STJT42084 in the YouTube chat says need the people setting these odds to open up a sports book. We would be very wealthy. Yeah, honestly. But yeah. So I mean, but at the same time, what we're also hearing from folks, you've got plenty of friends who decided to hang back in the States is that they're getting FOMO from the world. Yeah. I'm getting a lot of FOMO texts of like, wow, I can't believe I'm not there. I kind of take in like a day off of work and made this happen. Which we tried to tell everyone. I think I wrote half a dozen flat count articles in the last couple of months basically saying

6:13like, you guys are going to want to come. Yeah. So far, this is definitely, it's been a great meet. I feel like tonight was a little cleaner than last night. But also, at the same time, I feel like they didn't take as many risks as that of their experience. In the staging of things. Yeah. I don't feel like we heard from athletes quite as much tonight. Yeah. There was less like jumping around different corners of the stadium. It felt a little bit more. And today, definitely, I think they put the sprints in the spotlight. Yeah. But overall, it's just a great meet. I don't know. I really enjoyed tonight. So what event do you want to start on? Let's go in order of how things unfolded. So we'll start with the women's 400, which we walked into the stadium just in time to catch this. And the scooter did die. That was why. Oh, yeah. That's what happened. A little bit of a delay. And that's another pro tip. Well, first off, Budapest, beautiful city.

7:15Too super easy to get around. Like the public transit would make Zora Maldonney very proud. But then at the same time, we love taking the lime scooters all the way to the stadium. There's just a straight shot. You got the wind blowing through your hair and your skimmed up. Your skimmed up. Your skimmed up. Your skimmed up. We are. So what we'll need is someone to comment on the Spotify in a couple days reminding us to cancel our lime premium. We should be going for Strava segments on our lime scooter. Oh, yeah. That would get people very angry. But in this race, not too many shockers because Marlita Polino entered as a heavy favorite. But the way that she ran it was a little bit more interesting where for a while, I thought Salva, you NASA got off to a really good start. And Polino was right next to her to try and match it. But NASA faded super hard. Ends up in last place. Polino went the opposite and just powered past people.

8:17Liga Klava, I think, was leading off the turn and she tried her best to really hold it. Ends up for it. But the podium here is like who has looks good in the last couple of weeks. So you had Polino win in 4907, Henrietta Jager, the European champion, 4928, and second and then Nikisha Price, who was coming around at the right time, 4956 for third. I feel like we had a little bit of a scare here. I mean, Marlita always closes hard going on a little bit more conservative, conservative. But she was fifth with 100 meters to go. She was very deep. She had a lot of work to make up. Ultimately, the strength, her throughout her last 30 meters really pulled away. 4957 though. I think if anything, today was not her best day. You call Spada Spade. It wasn't her best day. It's a testament to how much better she is than everyone else right now, the fact that even on not her best day, that she found a way to win. And the other part that I'm trying to maybe wrap my head around is where they put this

9:21in the schedule. It's like the first event of the night. And in Tokyo, the Sydney, Marlita, Salah race was much later in the schedule as well. So yeah, these athletes are used to competing in various different types of schedules, especially in the Diamond League, where sometimes their event is toward the opening half. But you have a much longer day at the track to warm up. And so for me, I'm just thinking like this is a fairly new event. And so we'll see where when in the next go around, they move different events. Say for example, Sydney McLaughlin-Leverone ends up coming back. This event probably gets slotted much later in the schedule. Yeah, and then could lead to faster times. I think it does make sense. It's just a major star. I mean, look, what is it? The men's 200 basically caps off the entire competition. And the idea was, of course, when they're building that schedule, that'd be no reverse,

10:21let's see, oh. And now you have Kenny with an opportunity for 300 dollars, which is pretty fun. Just overall, taking a step back, real excited about Henry and I, Jager, it's just progression. I mean, choose a multi-athlete a few years ago. Now she's the second best foreign student runner in the world. Yeah, that's all. I don't know. You still slot Sydney at number one, or in 2026. Okay, in 2026, yes. Yeah, in 2027, and then maybe out in your third. Yeah, so, no, it's just awesome to see. And then, do you think it's crazy that I'm already slotting Sydney at number one for 2027? Oh, I mean, until someone beats her if you have any reason to... Exactly. Yeah. It's not like someone ran 46 this year. So, yeah, but just, it's a cool progression to Nikisha Price. I think that this was a real battle for silver. The Kishpric did come on really well late this season. We know how talented it is.

11:22Anyone who's paid attention to the NCAA knows what she's capable of. This event, I mean, it just, today, it wasn't necessarily the fastest day, but really, it does just take 48 type ability now to be remotely competitive in the competition for menals. So, again, Paulino will finish the season undefeated. And then, she's made, I mean, it's just very cool. We'll get to Audrey Warrow, Melissa Jefferson would in. And then, you know, there's the Messiah. This has been a banner season for athletes going undefeated in their events. And for Paulino, again, like what we said in the preview and in the episode yesterday, is that you can only do so much to impress folks for the one athlete of the year title. Yeah, especially, you know, they're not really a four by four country, so it's tough to get that second man on.

12:23True. Yeah. Yeah, it's 400 here, thematically. Something, everyone's always talking about what other events they're gonna like try. And Marleady just has content in the 400. We're just gonna get as many medals in the top of the corner. She did do that one, 800 to open up the season. But that people do that. Yeah. But going to the men's 400, Collins now, you know, one season, he's the most dominant 400 meter runner of the year. Yeah. He's already talking about 200 and 800s. Yeah. for context. Paulina just soloed that 204 back in my march, which was fun and interesting, but definitely not an indicator of what her potential could be in that event. If she gave it some time, but Kevin has should be, yeah, I mean, finishes the year now. This is, this was his sixth sub 44s. Sounds right. Yeah. Which I don't think there's ever been someone who has run that many in a single

13:24season. How fired up were you that first 200 meters? I mean, I think everyone we were standing next to our friends at LutzRin.com, the USATF folks were on our left and like everyone for sure thought like, oh man, he's finally getting after it. This world record is going down. He's gonna run 42. It wasn't a attempt. And then what from two to 300 is where it kind of cooled down a little bit? Yeah, I mean, looking at the splits. So, you know, he came through 200 meters way faster than he normally does. So his 200 meters split was 20.67 for reference in Brussels when he ran essentially the same time ran a hundredth of a second slower. He was 21.35. Yeah. So like, it looked significantly. I mean, he made up that stagger at a heartbeat. Well, the other part that was impressive about this performance is just how much he won by. Yeah. I mean, he won by 0.76 seconds over

14:27Ry Benjamin. So my big bowl prediction from the beginning of the season that Ry was going to beat him didn't come to fruition. David a shot. So yeah, no, so it was the sixth sub 44 for Kevin Hitchiepie, the most ever by a man in a single season. He said in Brussels that he needed .02 to claim the world lead. And he found .01. It's a godsy. He still has it. Yeah, godsy. So like, that's where as funny as like how this is this whole year has pandered out for Kevin and Shippy. It's like, he still has them and able to even snag the NCAA record of world lead. This is going to be really tough for him. And he should be able to find some, let's see, how old is he? So the eligibility for word. Yeah. This is really going to impact him in the world athletic athlete of the year voting if you don't have the world lead. Well, the thing that, well, if he wants a consolation prize, I think Kevin and Shippy will finish his career with the same amount of barren men awards as he's 22. I'm sure there's got to be a loophole somewhere with NCAA clearinghouse to get Kevin and Shippy to running for the

15:32ducks next year. So, right second, dream, third, I just always, dream, why didn't you put this to make it look like I'm drinking this is all he probably dream. Always just is so celebratory and just really like appreciates whenever he has a good race. Yeah. And you see it here today, not a great lane draw for him. You have to do it the hard way. Yeah. He always I think prefers to be a little bit more on the outside, but getting Chris Bailey at the line. This is just a stacked field. It was awesome. This was such a, this, this started the day. Like it got the momentum really going when Colin went for it. And it was exciting. We thought he was going to go, we thought, no, I guess we didn't have a cold take in the sense that if all these guys were firing on all cylinders in this one that maybe we would have seen four or five guys break 44. And

16:37the conditions maybe weren't there. It was warmer, but it wasn't there. Yeah. So we ended up with just one guy, but hey, it wasn't unexpected result once again. And he's put together an all time year as well. No, it's incredible. Really quick, because we got to make Paul Hoffman, he happy, but with shouting out the women's javelin, Haruka Kittaguchi, worst tweet of all time. Oh, what did Paul tweet? Paul basically, he was laughing at the staff. He was making fun of the intern who makes the graphics for broadcast. It was, what was it? It was only like 67% or something. It wasn't even that absurd, but obviously. Yeah, you said he's very dominant season for Zion. And it was 67%. 615 PM Paul Hoffman tweets. Yeah, 67% chance for Yanzi to win. And then 20 minutes later at 635, 20 minutes later,

17:46he says I'm perfectly fine with this tweet becoming incredibly embarrassing in the next 20 minutes. Hell yeah, Haruka, that's so sick. So he, you know, I mean, he's just happy that people are throwing really far. In theory, that is the purpose of the graphic, because all right, Paul knows throws. If he's saying that is a thing to do. Yeah. But if he's saying that's too low of a percentage and maybe an 80, 85% would have been more accurate for viewers at home, that would have given more context to how big of a deal it was that Kitaguchi was able to win. Yeah. But at 67% it's not as, you're like, all right, only two thirds of the time. This is athletes expected to win. So redemption for Kitaguchi who, you know, didn't have a good world championships on home soil in Tokyo last year. And so, you know, finally gets, you know, a big moment for her career. Another thing that I appreciate about her is

18:49that many times, like you have a lot of athletes who don't speak English as their first language. And so we don't get to hear any sort of in-state-ium interview. And big shout out to Radzie, the in-state-ium announcer here, who we've both worked with in the past. He just kind of approaches it with so much care and like, you know, keeping the questions short and easy. And he got Heruka to do like an in-state-ium interview in English. And so like major kudos to her for, I guess, like, you know, taking the mic for once and addressing the fans. And so we like to see that. As an American who can't speak other languages for shit, I always appreciate that every other country in the world, they're much smarter than us. Yeah. Everyone. We're just better at the 110 hurdles though. And the 100, but only here in Budapest in Paris sometimes. All right. So let's move on to, let's hit the men's 800 meter semi-finals. He won. Brandon Miller takes it. But for this one. He's good. He's all right.

19:55Yeah. But the fascinating one was what kind of raised with the manual when you're running in this one. Bare minimum. Do you think that's what it was? He let himself quite a bit of work to do in the final 150. Yeah. I mean, look, it wasn't an ideal. He did not his heart rate would have been a little higher than he. That's the graphic I wanted. I want to know what percentage of this heart rate max was he at. Because was this strategic of just saying I'm saving it for the final or was this? Yeah, no, he's vulnerable. If only he had a, you know, a Suntou race two or the new run two that just came out, we'd be able to get some of that information. Yeah. We'll work on just handing him one before the final. But yeah, Brandon Miller in through the next round. Giannis Mesien from France, who you at the very beginning of the race, we're like, France is development of the middle distances. They have crazy depth in the 815 now all of a sudden.

20:56It's kind of happened in a matter of a couple of years. I don't know if this is still the case now, but a month ago, they're like six or seven to best 1,500 meter runner was better than our six or seven to best 59. Really? Yeah. Had a faster PB. Oh, PB. Or even the best. The best. Which really does give content. I don't know what they're doing differently over there. I think maybe it's just like turning out to the Olympics. There's some buzz. It's like a legacy thing. Like, you just, you saw what Assy and Hebs did at the Paris time in the 2020 four. And then, you know, that's the moment. Well, the Paris Olympics then just sort of energize you if you're a kid and you get to go to the stadium and watch the 1500-end unfolds. Maybe your countryman didn't win. But the Neroj Chopra, Javalin, Domino effect. Exactly. So that was an Elliott Crest on Emanuel Uni. That's your crew out of Heat One. Yeah. Heat Two,

21:57Mark English comes away with the win in this one. After Marco Robed did quite a bit of the work from the front. And then, Francesco Pernici, who is 10 years younger than Mark English, finishes second. Marco and then Jamal Sagotti. Those are your four auto cues. So some big names did get bounced in the second one. Too all didn't make it from France. Donovan Brasier, Maxburg, and Ben Paterson. Those are all four huge names. I guess that's naturally the name of the game. Yeah. If you had told me like, oh, from this one, it's just going to be Marco, Too All Brasier and Sagotti, like, who make it through. Yeah, I would believe that. I think you could have come up with any sort of combination of four out of this. 100%. It was a tough one at the two. Yeah. This was a very good heat. Honestly, when you end up with the slowest time going into the final, Mark English, I just can't get over how good he is now. Yeah. I mean, he's always been

22:57good, but like, shout out Justin Bernalde. He's just looking so smooth. And I feel like as his finishes improved, his tactics have improved as well. It's like he used to try to sneak it in a little bit and really like play Koi for 700 meters of the race and hopefully find a hole and find his way out. And now he's running with so much confidence of a European champion. How does he win? How does he win? Ideally, not a 141 race. Yeah. It slows down a little bit as we talk today. He can really, he can move and shift gears really well. He is good at still running 800 meters in an 800 meter race as opposed to running a little bit of extra distance. The way he wins is let some of the big dogs fight each other and do a little less work spend as little time and lean to as possible and catch him off guard. Although, I don't know if anyone can be caught off guard from Mark

23:58right now. What do you think the intern who's putting together the stats for the final? What odds is he going to get Mark English? He watches this race and he's like, oh, just went Yoni a guy. He's going to be dead last. All right, odds. This is one of the most even, especially when Yoni now coming in fourth in his heat. We took a peek at what is being out there, you know, offered up on the markets. We can't bet, but Marco had some good value on there. Yeah, he was like plus 1200. Yeah, which didn't really make that much sense. But like legitimately, I think now that when Yoni looked a little bit off today, are there four or five guys that you would say reasonably you would believe if I told you one for this one. You don't have to name names, but I think we all know four or

25:02five guys here. You say four, I might go as far as, yeah, I guess four is my, I don't say four. All right, let's do a draft. You hit the first deck of who I think could win this. Manu and Yoni. Okay, I'm going to go branding, Miller and Marco are broke. Then I'll take Sajadi, then I'll take Mark English, and then I'll take who I had booked. Then I'll take Francesco Pranachi. I'll take Yoni's. Yeah, Elliot, Chris, Sajadi, only one left. So he ends up on my deck. So he's going to end up winning. Yeah, that's how it goes. Well, school, nice rapid fire draft. YouTube chat, we want to hear your predictions for the men's 800. Who you got? And how many guys do you realistically think could win that race? Then we'll we'll tally up what the responses are in the YouTube chat. Then we go over to the

26:07women's 400 meter hurdles first round. Not to no shockers in this. Emma Zaptolova took the first one in 52.93. Then, honestly, loved the second hit. It was like a big wave of red, white, and blue with Jasmine Jones leading the charge. And throws down a 52.77, her season's best. Beats the diamond league champion, Anna Cockrole, who maybe a lot of people might be more inclined to pick for the victory. But even you said, like, I said this, I think 100 meters of the race, I was like, at no point will I count on Jasmine Jones? No. And it's just always fun because like, I feel like we've been saying this now for two years or going on three, how young she is for this event. But last year, I think like she didn't hurtle as often as she would hope for, because she was dealing with some early season injuries. And then at the paris Olympics, before that, there was only like a limited number of times that she contested this event. This is like

27:07maybe like her first true full season in it, even though what, in 24, she won the NCAA championships, but without contesting the event at all. So yeah, I mean, I think her seal, we haven't even seen close to which Jasmine Jones is sealing this event. I think by 2028, the public perception of Jasmine Jones today will evolve quite a bit into someone who will really be in a serious factor in this event. She looked great today. Dole Mohammed, she notes her for coming retirement. Again. So it's like, do we believe her? I think I believe her this time. I mean, I always believe Telela, but I think this time it's for real starting to settle in, getting a little sad thinking about it. But yeah, who are famous? I mean, Tom Brady retired and

28:08unretired for many times, Brett Farve. I wonder, you know, how the Tokyo retirement seemed to have been like pretty set. And then with the Sydney pregnancy news and the Femke moving events, the probably triggered like, okay, maybe let's give it one more shot. Let's see what the year has. What other events would have to take place in order for Deliola come back another year? I mean, if she like $1,75,000 or $150,000 tomorrow, I feel like you're just... Yeah, if you win the little... I don't know, because then you can also make the argument that very few times in this sport, you ever get the fairy tale ending. I'm like going out on top. Yeah. But the problem here is, it's like, we're getting closer to LA. So if you have that moment, you're so close. I can see her retiring and then like four months being like, I can do it one more. I can do it a little bit. Yeah. I mean, you could take a whole year off and then come back. Yeah.

29:09Look at Allison feel like she took like four years off and is coming back. Yeah. Yeah. More than that. What? 20... Yeah, four years off. So we'll see. But this finals is shaping up for a really good showdown between Jazz and Jones and O'Cockerel, Delulu Muhammad and then Emma's Abbot Delova. I think that's how I see it, Colin. Yeah. All right. That was Women's 400 hurdles first round. Women's 100 meters first round. I will touch on it when we get to the final. 400 hurdles? What? Men's 400 meter hurdles. Men's 400 meter hurdles. Yeah, sure. We could touch on that one. Yeah. So the first round to that one. Why quickly ran to go cool down or whatever 400 meter runners do following his race because he had another one about an hour later. I wonder someone's got to find this that out there. Best single day 400, 400 hurdles combined time.

30:10This has got to be it. I mean, it's four by four still count. No. It has to be this. Yeah. It has to be this because all the other times must have been like someone attempting it at NCAA isn't it not going well? Yeah. So two days ago we got whispers that Ryan Allison were going to have some fun down the home straight away. Their boys, they know that people want to see the big three go up against one another and to preserve that matchup, especially when even Rye is so much better than three four five in this race. Dos Santos is like the only one who's like who can make this thing very hard for everybody. So they kind of got on the same page about like hey how fast we're going to run? What are we going to do? Because you also don't want to exhaust yourself for the next round. And they want to see the best of themselves. And so we did get an inkling that they would be playing a game of rock paper scissors over the final hurdle. Allison went a little too quick.

31:16And that was the problem. It looked like it was going according to plan. We were like, why don't you slow it to all down our perspective? We alerted our photographers and we told the USATF social team be like, hey guys get ready because coming off the final hurdle, Allison and Rye are going to be playing some games and then we're just watching. Rye's got to do a little bit of work to get up to Allison. And so in the end, Allison comes away with the clear victory in the heat, but I think he lost the rock paper scissors game. Did he? I think. Oh, because he did rock and then did he kind of threw his scissors out there? Who did, right? I thought Allison went to see. Well, so the way rock paper scissors were. Yeah, explain this is. How do you play rock paper scissors? This is a test. All right, you two chat. I need to know like how do you play rock paper scissors? This is a regional test. Rock paper scissors say shoot. Yeah. Yeah. Turn to New York boys.

32:20Because what do other people do? No one says says. Really? That's a New York thing. Yeah, that's like we say online and we say says. It is true. Yeah. Also, YouTube chat's picking Mark English for the win in the 800. My daughter said she was waiting online the other day and I was fired up. One single tear. That was drunk. Dripped down your cheek. All right, so 400 hurdles, Allison and Rye make it through and then in heat to Carson Moreholm took the victory. And Ezekiel and Nathaniel was coming up right behind him. Mateus Lima. So all the favorites through in this one. So that was the men's 400 hurdles. Let's move on over to the women's 1500. What a race. So this is the first championship where there is no faith to get the A-Gon. And so we looked at these lessons and we said similar to the men's 800, you can make the case to four, five, six different athletes could win it. And it's a long list. It got out pretty fast. Agatha,

33:29she just from the get go just said we're going to make this honest. I'm a huge fan of hers. She just because she just always runs with so much passion and she celebrates so hard and I mean, you saw today she's awesome. Like she's a fun one to have in races and she made it honest. I mean, look a final without the A-Gon. Nine women under four flat. Yeah, that's awesome with no rabbit. So I mean, she kept it going. It was relatively, it slowed down a little bit. I mean, they came through in 63 and then 211. So it slowed a bit. But then the race started ramping up. She was still in the lead with three engineers to go. In the beginning, someone nearby us had kind of confidence. Like Claudia's up front too early. She was sitting in the pocket. She was right there from the get go. This is a I disagree with that assessment entirely. This was I think in

34:29the preview. Something I said was now she has the confidence to just pick her spot and she to get there and she had no pressure to be the one to push because she has such a strong kick. But then here came Georgia underbell in the final 200 meters. Maybe even a little bit more before that. And look, we were wondering is Georgia tired at some point. She's been on all year. This was the fourth infinity soon. I don't know how many of the finties are there. I think there's five. It's the last infinity soon, whatever it was. So she won more gold. And with Georgia, she was going to be swinging out. But Claudia did not let her take it and just pushed and pushed and pushed and held her off that whole turn. And as they were coming down the last 100, the difference of their distance was exactly the difference of being the one who's on the inside of the rail and the one who's running in lane two. And that at the end of the day, you know, 357.56 to 357.72. That's the difference

35:38of running in extra couple meters. What I loved with the final 100 by Claudia Kismirska is you could tell she was giving it everything. That stride extension was like could not get it have gotten any longer. Did you see the video, Jerry? Yeah. So if you go on the CISMag Instagram, there's a Postset is collabed with the Oregon Track and Field Account. And many people don't see this side of Coach Jerry Schumacher all that often. Most people don't see any side of Jerry. Many people don't even know what it looks like. So you might learn a lot watching this. It's got more back of his head here still. Yeah. You wouldn't recognize him. But he was losing his mind and going absolutely nuts. And I think like in Brussels, she did mention like she made a comment in the mix zone afterwards that like he's given her the confidence in telling her that like she might be the most talented athlete that he's worked with. And when you think of the long list of power and track what

36:38athletes that he's worked with, like that's a very, very high praise for someone who just nabed their first, you know, Diamond League victory and then subsequently the World Oldham Its title. It was an awesome race. Props to Georgia, I think a lot of people probably just based off of how she looked to post Europeans. I mean she ran a good 8 but she was able to mix it up with Audrey and uh, Femka. And then you know, it was a little tired in the 1500 but she rallied and she really, again, it was so close. Nikki though. What a rally. Yeah. The highest first podium finish now to her championship. Yeah. So I mean like that progression for Nikki was seventh at the Paris Olympics. Fifth at the Tokyo World Championships in now third. Seven, five, three. Oh yeah. But now to her chance outdoor podium. Yeah. Yeah. They've got medals from indoors but this is uh, yeah. So really

37:42good race. Um, this did feel like the type of 1500 words like if we ran this one 10 times. You could have four yet a lot of. Yeah. Um, but in a 350 seven race, it was set up for Claudia. Um, in other sports, when a team does not perform well, you have a fan base that would be pretty vocal being like, we need to fire our coach. Okay. Thank you. You're firing. I think it's time to fire the Ethiopian 1500 meter coach. Oh man. I mean, what are they doing? Uh, uh, Sarah and Berhie, Berkahilum and then Haragawani Kalaew, all 10, 11, 12. Yeah. Never put themselves in this one. Yeah. Didn't do anything for many high lucudos to her. You know, she made a move and ended up in fourth place. She set up well for that five K. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, I would normally

38:45have the talent like we, uh, good upse guy, you know, for all the crap that can sometimes be given to good off for going as aggressively and dying sometimes and other times holding on. At least that's something. I think like it's a timing thing right now. Like they, they, they were running so, I mean, Berkahilum had an amazing beginning of the season. Um, and I normally I would be like, you know, I think the Ethiopians do really well in faster races, but the truth is, this was a fast race and they didn't even have to be the ones to set it. Yeah. I mean, like, again, if the Yankees are having really good record in April and they, you know, win a couple games in May, but we missed the playoffs in September. Yeah. Like I'm calling for Aaron, Aaron Boone to get fired. I'm always for Aaron Boone to get fired. So, you're saying I heard him. Yeah. Um, yeah. So, I mean, it's not all that often that, you know, we jump on and, and call for some inspiring, but the theoretical person.

39:48Yeah. It's responsible. Can we talk about our favorite moment in the stadium after this race? Don Harper Nelson, uh, interviewing Claudia Kazmirskine, I got us thinking. Okay. So, obviously, this, I wonder, is this being fed to the fans at home? Like, is this all part? No, because they, the fans at home get a Lewis Johnson interview, uh, on NBC. So, I don't think that they're seeing the same interviews we're getting in stadium with Don Harper Nelson and Radzie, um, and who are fantastic at their jobs. So, this is, where this is going. It's not a knock on, on, on, no, this is, all right. There's been a lot of things about Grand Slam that we're kind of seeing. Again, and I'm okay. I don't like that's great. But one of the things that a year ago, I was like, can we stop talking about the money so often? Yeah. But they've decided to bring that here to ask the athletes what they're going to spend $150,000. It may surprise some people, but, you know,

40:52I wasn't in charge and I hated it. The, the constant money talk. Yeah. And, oh, wow. I didn't, I didn't think this would bring up these feelings. Okay. But now we're bringing money back again. So, immediately after races, they go, okay, let's, let's, let's, we'll play here for a second. So, if you're an athlete, what is even the correct answer here? Like, Chris, you just won $150,000. What are you going to spend it on? Yeah. Kyle, well, the plan is pretty simple. I'm going to take the $150,000, put about 40% into a leverage in the next fund and use that as collateral for a low interest securities back line of credit, then take the borrowed capital and split it between short duration treasury arbitrage and a small portfolio of distressed commercial real estate debt, then I'll reinvest the yield into out of the money call options, hedge those with inverse volatility futures, harvest the losses for tax purposes, roll the gains into a Delaware LLC, and assuming a conservative 38% annualized return compounded quarterly, I should have $8 million by say Tuesday.

41:55That's not what Kyle is saying. No, if I'd just said she was going to invest and I was like, well, you got to, you got to, when what, they call investing what? Yeah, and if T's of silver and bronze medals. Yeah, yeah. If anyone just tuned into the podcast at that time, they're like, what is their out? Yeah, anyway, quality of rent, great, well deserved, and I hope her investments pay off. I hope she has a good mind. Do not take what I just said as investment advice. That was mocked up on Gemini. All right, where are we going? That was the 1500. Let's now go over to the women's 800. Oh, the main event. Well, no, we had the pending who you are. Yeah. I want to know also what the TV numbers are for certain countries. You know how you get those stats from time to time of X percentage of people tuned in to watch the Haconai, Ekaden, like in Japan, right? And

42:57those viewers, the numbers are crazy. I need to know how much of Switzerland was tuned in to watch Audrey Whero for this. And I'm sure there are other little spikes we see in viewership from time to time. But we were looking forward to this event. And we were wondering the whole entire time, like, all right, so who's going to try and make this thing fast if Audrey can't just go out and blast a 26 by herself from the front, but she can blast a 27-3 from the front. And that's exactly what she did to get into position right from right from the back. Yeah. I mean, she took control. Little sidebar anecdote. We were just walking down the street and we saw both Audrey and Femka shaking out this morning about a minute apart from one another. Very funny because Femka was going at a very slow trot, which, you know, for all of the conversation around her paces during workouts and stuff. Well, you should see her on her shakeout right. She was slow. Cheers, chill. And then a

44:00minute later we saw Audrey. And then we were like, are we good at C-Keeley? Yeah, we didn't C-Keeley. But yeah, Audrey just looked again and again. We'll just keep saying it. She's such a good racer. And she controlled this thing from the front. I really, we found out after that Keeley tore her hamstring. She trained her hamstring according to interview at Europeans like she had some serious hamstring issues. And so that kind of, this pre-wishear he'd feel sent on the full details. But like she'd obviously been in suffering a little something. But I kind of loved where she was because as the race started, Audrey takes control and Femka just sat on the outside of Lane 1 and was just like, I'm going to do anything that you do. And meanwhile, Keeley was just sitting in. So it was like a Keptoge-like formation. Yeah, it was the most patient I think we've ever seen Keeley. Yeah. Race of this caliber. I mean, ultimately it's why she and she was rewarded with a silver

45:03probably. It's just because it didn't, I hate to break this thing. She wasn't rewarded with, she was rewarded with $75,000. She's not so re-battle because they don't do medals for a picture of a silver medal. Sure. But yeah, I mean, ultimately when Audrey just decided to shift gears, she's so strong. And we thought we'd have a little bit of a tighter battle coming down the final 100. But then that's when Audrey just powered through. In some ways, it was a little anti-chomatic because Audrey at this point is now the favorite, right? Like, what were you turning on, Audrey? That's your whole thing. You went on this pod. And I was saying that I think we're good now. Okay. I think we've seen enough. Yeah, I like to see her start getting beat a little bit. It was very exciting. Are you joining me on the Femke train? I'm on the anyone else train. As you know, I like rooting for chaos. I like

46:04different people winning races. Audrey has been extremely dominant this outdoor season. It's been incredible to watch. I feel like the general narrative of fans turned on Keeley because she had been running well for so long, has been consistent for so long. And you know what? I'd like to see some people jump back on the Keeley bandwagon now. She's overcoming some injuries. Despite what was not the perfect outdoor season. I mean, we had scraped up knees. We have hamstring issues. We're walking off the track right before a final. Let's give it up. Let's give some flowers to Keeley. Because once again, she finds her way onto a podium at a global championship. And she always finds a way. And again, I don't think I'm the only one who over who's just like, all right, I'm over when someone's really good for a long time. But I think the sentiment I've got online is that people went a little too far away from Keeley. I'd like to see him come back. Yeah, fair enough. And I think

47:09in order for, you know, all the big three that we have now, in order for them to do something as magnificent as breaking, they don't need a world record. You need to have to work together. A full season. No, I don't. You need a full season. You need a full season where there aren't any of those disruptions. And so once it got to be like one or two of them for Keeley, I was like, all right, like all this world record talk may have gotten a little bit ahead of us. And the only one who was maybe, you know, probably preserving some of that would have been Audrey because she just kept winning, winning, winning. Yeah. But if that thing is going to go down, then I mean, I don't know if they all need to be in the same race because we know how that could disrupt things for one other person. But it looks like it's going to end up surviving in 2026. Yep. Yep. I mean, look, it was exciting. It was probably the event of the year. Yeah. Right. There are another event that garnered more interest from the greater track

48:09field community. Well, the men's 1500, but that's, I don't think this year has been. Oh, with the great area. I thought you just met like among our friends. No, yeah. In the world, this is probably one of the more popular events. Adi Wiley fourth only American coming away with a solid race. But again, like, there's just a gap. There's a gap. There's three and there's everyone else. But today, she is the best of everyone else. And I love what we saw out of the indoor season at Abortion Willis. I know we can get back to that point, for sure. But again, the beauty of the women's 800 on the US side of things that it is a rotating cast of athletes who make these teams year in and year out. I think we're a little bit past now. You know, the Athimo Raven Rogers, Ajay Wilson, era, where it's like, okay, that's who's going to make it now. It's like, we could probably have, I think you could come up with a combination of like, it seems like there's a trend that it's one NCAA athlete,

49:09one person to manage to stay on their feet. And then an old person who was considered an outside. There's an elder. There's a newbie. Yeah. Someone who didn't fall. So I think 2027 on the US side will also be interesting. You know, can Sage heard a clicker get healthy and back to, you know, the fitness that got her fifth place at the world championships. Can Rochene, you know, carry what she did indoors into outdoors? And so, yeah, it'll be interesting. And I need to find out if Nick is getting to you from Ethiopia, if her coach is the same as the 1500 coach, because she finished the last two. So it goes to further my case to fire whoever is going against. You're going to get a long detailed explanation from Friends of the Pod. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hannah Boer is here to break it down for me. It's like, no, this coach, this coach, this coach, so I'll find out who's head is on a chopping box soon. Okay. Final events of the evening. And I want to save the best one for last.

50:14So we're going to go to the men's 100 first. And a little pre-context on this one is that, okay, we were a bit bummed that no-liles was out of these championships due to injury, because we wanted to see Obliq versus Noah on the stage. And then we kind of started to just, you know, retroactively hand the title to Obliq as a result of this. Even I think like, heard from some buddies like who were watching the broadcast and like, even that was like really crowning Obliq before the race even began. And we were at, you know, the media day and we were chatting with Kenny beforehand, talking about watches. Talking watches and the lane draft. Yeah. And then we were talking mostly about the 200. And as he's walking off, he says, oh, but watch the 100. And we're like, I mean, I was planning to, but now,

51:15well, what else would I be doing? What else was I going to do? So now it's been in my head. Well, today we were talking to someone from this camp who said, yeah, Kenny's 100 starts are on right now. A lot of credit to Christian Coleman working with him in practice throughout the year. I've just been doing block starts next to one of the greatest starters of all time. Yeah. And they just said, we heard of this afternoon. Kenny told us two days ago we heard again today. Start was on. And it was on. Obliq's a great starter. And I never saw any distance between them. That it looked like it was an insurmountable amount to make up. They were neck and neck right next to each other. And Kenny puts together his best 100 meter performance since last year's USA's maybe I think or what? Yeah. I mean, it's been a little hit or miss at times. Right? Like we've seen what it's right. I guess I get we saw all last spring in 2024. He makes the final and you know,

52:18that's good, but he's not coming away with it. No. So and he even said it. I was talking to him about this because he was. This is the third best third best time in that conversation. The thing he had said is like we should do a lane draft from the hundred because I think it's very overlooked by how big of a difference who you start next to in the hundred makes. And he says for me personally, I have a tendency sometimes if I'm next to people who aren't necessarily great starters to fall asleep. But if I'm next to someone who's really good, which correct me from wrong, I believe he was next to oblique today. He's like I step up and I can match it. And so from a lane draft perspective, that's what he wanted. He wanted the ability to pick a lane next to someone who's a great starter. So Kenny is best 100 meter performances that 979 from USA's last year. He ran 985 in the semifinals in Tokyo and then this tie is that performance. So he's going in the right direction, I think. They say Americans don't lose 100 meter titles in

53:21Budapest. You say that. Getting them for now, I'm sure. What an awesome race for Ronnie Baker. Yeah. Ronnie Baker who like when maybe at the beginning of or at some point last year, you probably think like that might be time to hang it up. Like 32. Yeah. And this season has been in just a total turn around season for him. Yeah, it's been awesome. Who I guess would we think of come back athlete of the year in the sprints would be? This would be like and I'm not talking. I thought it was going to be let's see El Tobago in the 100 after the pre-limit itself. Yeah, the pre-limit itself would be good. But I'm just trying to think like it's easier to maybe point fingers at folks like in the distance events for us. But maybe the YouTube chat can help us. Like who is the comeback athlete of the year in the short sprints? Yeah. And at the time, which we'll get to in a second. A time of the year really thought it was going to be Trayvon. Yeah. Who pulled up today,

54:22I think he officially did cross the finish line. Yeah, yeah. Looks like he was dealing with something again. But we saw flashes this year that would put him in that conversation. Yeah. You know what? Let's give it to Ronnie Baker. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think Ronnie ends up there because I mean to be on the quote unquote podium which doesn't exist here at the ultimate championships is big. He can't sell a shy. Yeah, no, he didn't. And on a tear. Like you look at this list and it's like yeah, this was this was a solid race. So although we missed Noah Liles, this sets up great narratives going into 2027. I mean, when you think of it from the perspective of Kenny's first global title, you would have never expected an Andreid. No, you forget. He was a 400 guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He kind of, he kind of Fred Curly did. Now people will be saying, you can't eat it.

55:25You can't eat it. Forge Runner becoming 100 meter runner. So yeah, it was awesome. That was really happy for him. All right. Then the big one, women's 100. Tell me what you saw in that semi. The semi final, you could tell that there was like some tension, I would say, between training partners, Melissa Jefferson, what an inch carry Richardson cruising through. Melissa, looking at her 10, 7, 3, looking a little bit easier than Shikari working for, you know, the 1075. But both of them, Shikari did looking strong. Yeah. We got the lean. The people on Twitter told her, he said, lean. And then moments later, Julian Alfred responds with the 1073 of her own. She was incredible. With the moment, fantastic start. And I, like both reaction times in the semi finals, Melissa Jefferson was 0.142.

56:30Julian was 0.141. Yeah. Like it was just, okay. It's these two. But also don't freaking count out Shikari Richardson. She looked, she looked like herself. Honestly, that's what it was. I would say I've long though felt Melissa was going to win this. And then after the semi's, I went, it might be Julian. Yeah. Did you feel that way? No. I don't bet against. I didn't do that, but I thought there was a shock. Yeah. I don't let that doubt deep into my head. You're such a hero. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm just, I get crap all the time for being just very ra ra USA. And especially I think in the stadium, it just comes out a little bit more out of me because I know what we went through in 2023. And like how much we enjoyed that moment.

57:32I was like, I was like, I want to enjoy that again. So like, if it's Melissa or if it's Shikari, like I want to experience that. I don't root against Julian Alfred. I root for Melissa and Shikari a little bit harder though. Yeah. That's fair. So that, that set up the stage nicely. Now question, how did we feel about them bringing out all the athletes and lining them up? And then this must be because like this is a four TV event, they're playing like this video package feature on Melissa Jefferson Wooden and her family and they bring out her family, you know, over to track side. Yeah. And if you're one of the other competitors on that starting like, you're listening and watching this whole time. I mean, they've had that the last person walking out. Yeah. In a lot of the finals. They didn't do it in the men's for some reason. In the men's hundred, but they've done it. They did it in the hurdles. And it's, it is kind of fun of like really building up the favorite. I would say I don't have an issue with a video package.

58:39I like the idea. I think it just needs to be a little bit more hype. Okay. So like I don't want to get to know them. It's like no, like give me a highlight. Give me, give me some fort minor. Yeah. Yeah. Like let's get the crowd going. I know everyone in hungry loves fort minor. So like, I just want a little, I saw I'm okay with the idea. I'm okay with the package. I just want to like build up, get the crowd amp. And then when they are revealed and they walk out that it's not like, oh, wow, that was very touching. Like they love their family as we all do. Yeah. I would like it more like, oh, wow, they're the best. Did they? You got to wonder if they plan on bringing other people's families out too or like most of travel is deep with with with her family. Do have we seen any other families? No, not yet. But by the way, Fort Miner's remembered the name peak at number 28 in Hungary and spent 14 weeks on the Hungarian singles chart beginning in September 2006.

59:40So you're told, what do you think? I think I make this stuff off now. Yeah. So going into this race, then they're all lined up. And I just love 100 in a stadium like it goes dead quiet. Where's the best place in the stadium to watch 100? We get some good seats in the media Tribune. Yeah. So the media Tribune being past the finish line, past very up high. And just a little to the sides, you can kind of see an angle. I like in Paris, we watched the men's 100 from the opposite side. Really? Because we were able to just track the entire thing. I felt really well. I don't know if I love that. But to each his own, you definitely don't want to be behind. You don't want to be behind, and you don't necessarily want to be, I don't know, you don't want to be able to 20 either. Yeah, you definitely want to be 80 meters in beyond. But I think up high, I'd say one of my highest

1:00:40takes across all sports is that most sporting events are better up high. Yeah. Like a baseball game, with a radio on, it's good up high, basketball, good up high, hockey, good up high. Yeah, good point. So we watched this whole thing unfold and Melissa just got up to such a great start. Yeah, I mean, her top end speed was faster than Julian and she matched the start. And I mean, 1062. It wasn't cold, but it was not hot. No. It's sort of a shame we didn't have a few more degrees out there because 1062 is moving. Second fastest time behind, I heard 1061 from the Tokyo World Championships. And I think no, no part of me is surprised that they really saved this big performance for this need. That's just sort of like, well, we've just become accustomed to seeing in sort of like the

1:01:43progression of her season last year. I feel like last year was definitely fewer races in the lead up. No, more races than this year, for sure. Because last year she was kind of doing both events and a lot of both. What do you think the first percentage odds are going to be on her winning the 200? Higher now. Is the algorithm take this into account? Well, are we talking about like actual odds or the interns odds? The intern might still think like she's got 40% odds. The interns going to be like, she's going to be tired. I just started watching track two days ago. I don't know anything. All right, I want to play a game. Okay. All right, we're closing out of the game. First off, really quick, I guess let's tell people what's in store for tomorrow. Tomorrow, mostly all finals. So we got women's 400 meter hurdles, men's javelin, men's 200, men's 400 hurdles, men's high jump, women's 5K, women's triple jump, men's 800, the mixed 4x4, the men's 1500,

1:02:54the men's 200, so the men's 200, women's 200. Yeah, so I mean, this one's going to be on NBC. So tune in, grab an Oli Pop out of your fridge. And if you don't have one, order some, it probably won't arrive in time. But use code cityas25 at drinkolipop.com for a discount. And you'll get them later, but you can go to Target, you can go to H&B, you can go to Whole Foods, and you'll be able to get some good Oli Pop. But yeah, so yeah, what was I saying? I got distracted thinking about Oli Pop, because I've been itching for it since I'm here. I just had that glass Oli Pop. Yeah, that's what that is. All right, you'll play a game. Okay, we're going to finish the game. Yeah. Blind ranking, 10 things from the world ultimate champion. Okay, all right. All right, ready? I got 10 things. This is just like 10 things. 10 things. Okay, first up, more prize money. Let's go three. All right, three. Wow, coming out of the

1:03:57bank. All right, next, fewer field events. Oh, you're trying to get me in trouble. No, you're like 10. Let's go put field events at 10. All right, next, Yaka Benga-Britzins last 100 meters. That was good. Let's go four. All right, next up, Budapest as a host city. Two. Wow, all right. All right, next, Mando's song. This one. Mando's Gold theme song. Nine. I like his other songs better. Nice. Win probability graphics. Wow, eight. Nice. All right, cabinet chippies full send in the 400. Hmm, I'm going to try and think what you have 156 and 7 left. Let's go seven because I want to save some higher spots.

1:04:59All right, you have 156 left. Cornell Tynches early celebration. Six. All right, you have one and five left. Kenny finally wins a global gold one. But that's tough because the last one is Messiah Russell. And once again, you're not ranking her number one. Chris, I had a chance of correcting you. You're so close to correcting. You're the wrongs of Sidious past. All right, well, I got to flip the tables on you tomorrow and come in with some good blind rankings. I wonder how other people would blind rank that too. So all right, well, that does it for another episode of Sidious Mag live from Budapest. Many thanks to our sponsors, Suntou and Oli Pop for taking good care of us all throughout the

1:06:05season. And especially, I mean, here's the thing. The truth is I did bring two Oli pops in my suitcase. Is that why I'm in all your clothes? Of course, no, they got confiscated at customs. And so they said, you can't bring this in. And I was like, what? It's not opened. And they're like, no. And I was like, all right, I was like, what if I empty it out and I could just bring the cans? And they said, no, so I'm loyal. Well, I just wanted the cans for the show and they even shot that down. So maybe Budapest as a host city would go down if it would be number one, if they would let me bring my Oli Pop in. That is silly. But the only thing that they did wrong, what can you do next time? So that does it. We will see you guys tomorrow for the grand finale of the world ultimate championships. Krishavis, Kyle Merver, signing off. Good night from Budapest. Oh, no chocolate today. Mr. Litz.

1:07:13No, Ruby. This is all I need. Pop always told me, laugh is like a box of all the all the flavor and fiber you'll ever need to get far in life. Boy was he right. I never really had an angle. Never had a reason to stop eager. All I knew was I could run for everything with one until I ran out. And I what? I went home.