X-Space Q & A: The Dating Market Inverts the Roles

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things within the space itself. So not much I can do there, but I can at least tell show you guys, and if you're in the X space, you know, maybe check out the video itself, although there is like a delay of about, I want to say 15 seconds or so between what I say here now and what people will hear in the X space.

So, you know, you could just like keep it on silence. You can see what I'm talking about because I'm not going to be listening to anything. I'm just going to be looking at something.

So today we have this this post that was going pretty viral on X, which I'm going to share with you guys from someone named short squeeze.

And they have this obvious AI image, but the AI image is not important. It's just there to like create, you know, attention.

And the tweet reads this breaking the New York Times found dating for women in New York City is so brutal that some dating events are charging women $100 and men $0.

And the attendance ratio is still three to one women to men.

So, I thought this was interesting. We can look at some of the replies here. So basically, okay, we are talking about something kind of specific.

Number one, we're looking at New York City. So there's a little bit of context there. I looked into it just to confirm because, you know, Twitter or X, it rewards you for engagement.

So you could like bait people into like clicking on things. And a lot of people do rage bait is particularly popular on X.

There's a lot of like really overtly misandrous things that I that come across my feed. And I feel like, oh, okay, you're just trying to get a rise out of me. I'm not going to go along with it.

Although I don't think it's their lying about their feelings either. I think they're using their misindry to like basically get attention on the internet.

All right. So what this comes from. There's a New York Times piece, a podcast they call the daily. And they have an episode called is the swipe era over.

And it came out this month in February, not not long ago, which went viral and sparked a ton of online discussion in New York City's current dating scene, especially for straight singles in their 30s through 40s.

So we're looking at people that are getting into middle age, organizers of singles, mixers, speed dating and curated events like wine tastings or small gatherings are facing a persistent problem.

Way more women sign up than men. Even when they make events free for men and charge women up to $100 in some cases.

The attendance often stays skewed like three to one women to men or sometimes worse at smaller events. So this is actually a phenomenon that at least is being recorded in New York City.

And I think that it's kind of like a problem everywhere. If you're getting it in New York, you know, like it's not exclusive to New York because it means that any places, especially in urban areas, big cities where you have a lot of people and they're trying to meet.

I bet that this is also an issue, Los Angeles, Seattle, Chicago, you know, any big city, basically Toronto, whatever it is.

And it's not really helpful that most of these cities are pretty paused in terms of like their, you know, belief systems there, they tend to be way more feminist leaning, they tend to be more woke.

And I think that men are just kind of like repelled by this.

And I think this should be, you know, especially if they're like hoping to date or something or, you know, hoping to meet someone.

But there is some more to this. So organizers are saying people who organize these events. So let's back up for a second.

A lot of people do this stuff like there's dating apps, right? And we know dating apps are like they don't work very well.

I think that men are at least discovering that dating apps are not really a good use of their time.

Like if you think about it, if you make a profile on a dating app, you're probably, unless you find some way to stand out against like millions of men, you're probably just going to disappear into obscurity.

Because women, I mean, there was all, you know, studies were done on this. There was like a thing where a guy pretended to be a woman on a dating app.

I think it was on hinge. And he basically got a friend to take pictures, like a female friend, and he created a profile. And he was getting matches like immediately, you know, like he was getting hundreds of matches a day.

And this was framed as some kind of burden on women because they have to like make a choice. But it's, it's just kind of ridiculous because the, the men who are putting in the work to make a profile on these dating apps.

Most of them are just going to get ignored because women get so many matches that they just exclude like 90% of men because there's too many choices.

And so they want to narrow it down. And because they get all of this attention on the app, then they feel like they deserve this attention from men.

And so it skews their perception on what it is that they act, what's actually possible. And so women end up, you know, maybe never making a choice because they're too afraid or they end up, you know, just going for like the top men, like the absolute top men.

Of course, most of the time, the very top men are dating multiple women, you know, probably because they, you know, probably have the money to do it.

And they they had the attention and they're able to do that. So, you know, you have like the dating apps are not working as what I'm saying. So dating apps are are basically a failure.

And anyone who's still on them just hasn't figured that out yet, but I think you should get off of dating apps. And I think a lot of men are rising up to it.

So what's the alternative to dating apps? Well, the alternative must be then to like meet people in the real world go to, you know, events where there are singles like singles events and mixers is what they call it or other kinds of things like that.

And they're finding now that those aren't working either. And you get like, you know, very few men go to them and a lot of women go.

And this is something that we've also talked about on the show. So it's only gotten worse guys for women in particular.

And what's really funny about this to me is how inverted everything is so that's why I called it the dating market inverts.

Because it used to be that women were offered things like ladies nights at clubs and bars where they could go without paying a cover charge.

And then the purpose of the ladies night was so that there would be a disproportionate number of women because there was no fee for them to go.

And men would pay the cover to be there to meet women.

Now men can't be paid to go like you could like and women are paying a lot more to meet men and they're and the men are still not showing up.

So we've literally inverted women's or girls night and made it boys night and boys aren't showing up anyway.

So I just think it's it's sort of like speaks to the state of things in our dating market.

Alright, so let's look at a little bit more information about this phenomenon.

And then we'll look at some replies in the short squeeze post because there's a lot of like base takes in there.

So women on the other hand also many guys, okay.

Don't bother with structured events. They prefer apps, bars, organic meetups or aren't as motivated to pay time and effort for them.

Fair enough, right? Seems like a lot of work and you're probably not going to get much out of it again.

And it's not just rejection. Like it's the Me Too movement. It's women choosing the bear. It's all this misundry that's like you know just out in the open playing to see.

And men are still being challenged to like essentially defy that and still try.

And I can't blame them if they don't like why you know there's like open hatred against them.

So anyway women on the other hand are more willing to invest money and bring friends to these paid events hoping for better quality matches in a controlled setting away from the chaos of apps.

So like I said for women the apps are chaos because they'll get hundreds of matches.

And you know there they either are too afraid to make a choice because they have too many options or they would rather like you know basically like do it another way like meet a man face to face right.

The pricing flip women pay men is free is basically a desperate hack to boost male turnout and balance the ratio.

But it doesn't fully work often highlighting this imbalance. This ties in a broader complaints about New York City dating but it's not just New York like I said it's dating basically in any high population urban area.

I think that in rural areas it's probably a less of a problem because I think that there's just so few people and those people tend to be more like grounded and like well I'm just going to like you know date someone who lives close by instead of people who usually the women who post dating profiles talking about how much they love to travel and how much they like to you know do all of these things that are like kind of like require a decent income.

Those people tend to live in cities and they tend to have this like kind of you know elitist idea about what the social life is like so they watch a lot of Kim Kardashian stuff you know.

So anyway this ties in a broader complaints about urban or you know city dating high standards this the high standards to apply the viral 666 meme post pandemic shifts people moving out or men opting out of the game altogether which is a thing a lot of men are mictowing it you know big time right now.

YouTube keeps leading my comments no matter the comment today that is weird man I'm sorry about that I don't know what to tell you we don't have any blocks or anything.

So feel free to chat on rumble it's it's more based any house.

All right it's not every event or universal but it is a real trend in the curated slash organized single scene right now especially around Valentine's day or peak times some events end up with barely any men.

One story mentioned organizer scrambling or even paying random guys to show up turning it into a frustrating experience for the women who shout out cash so yeah imagine you're a woman and you're like i'm going to meet a man at this at this you know mixer and you had to pay a hundred dollars to go.

And there's like i think that this one the one that was the example from the New York Times article i think there were like 25 women and like five men that ended up showing up so it wasn't like a big gathering a lot of people but imagine you're one of the 25 women is like five dudes and i wouldn't be surprised if like.

None of those dudes walked away with any phone numbers anyways i wouldn't be surprised even of the five men that showed up who didn't pay anything they showed up for free.

I wouldn't be surprised if none of them got a phone number anyway probably in part because they didn't pay to show up because when you if you show up to a thing for free and the women that are there know you're there and you didn't pay to get there then it's going to say something about what to them it's going to say something to them about you know the value that you are as a man right it's wild man it's wild.

So the bottom line is it flips the old ladies night model on its head and underscores how tough the market feels for women seeking committed partners in New York City these days but also other cities many online takes call it a victory for men or proof of shifting dynamics while others see it as a sad commentary on modern romance.

Well I don't know about it being a victory but I did see that Brett Cooper made a video about it and she oh I see Os Muerte welcome to the chat Os Muerte if you want to say anything just request to speak and I'll give you the floor she let me see if I can find the video clip of the guy okay the daily New York Times Apple podcast let me see if I can find that.

She was lamenting this and saying this is not a victory and that the Red Pill Bros were celebrating it but I don't think they were I think they were vindicated you know guys like fresh and fit and stuff.

It's not good news and I don't think anyone would argue that it is but it is vindicating when you've been warning about this and people have ignored you you know.

You know so the daily podcast okay let me see the daily podcast New York Times.

All right la la la la la the daily podcast Apple podcasts is the swipe era over I found it okay so we're going to look at this in a second.

Which comes from capital one commercial bank.

Is there like a timeline I can jump to because I kind of want to jump to the part there's no timeline in this.

What no I'm not going to do it.

It's okay I can find I can just plate off of Brett Cooper's video so we'll just listen to this part.

Vent the following night. I'll go back a little bit more.

About dating events let's take a listen this is what sparked that tweet.

I'm going to do an event the following night and it could not have been more different from the first event.

What was it?

Yeah so I heard about this second event through a friend and it was a sort of wine mixer.

I think what really got me interested in this particular event was the fact that tickets for women were $100 and tickets for men were free.

Oh my god I think my soul just left my body.

Echo I'm sorry guys you gotta let me see if you're you guys getting echo from this.

I apologize if that's happening.

Why was it so much more for women than for men.

I mean I think the truth is that there are a lot more women out there interested in showing up for these dating events.

And it's not as easy to get men to show up and therein lies the issue that now the entire internet is debating so for a look.

Alright so yeah so the internet's debating it but it's not really a debate so much as this is the reality that women have created.

Okay no echo sounds fine okay.

And let's look at some of the comments to affirm this now you know Brett wasn't happy about this but I think that it it just speaks to how ignorant.

I don't know if it's willing ignorance or not.

People are about the problem and they're unwillingness to talk to people like Miring gains or Pearl who they had a comment on because Pearl had some things to say.

Your echo but your camera's looking as you're greedy.

Yeah I can't do anything about that I'm sorry guys.

So anyway Misundri examples which is a really good account if you guys are on X is a lot of great accounts here you should follow.

Misundri example says oddly way back when I did some work for a matchmaker it was the same situation her main client was women and she struggled to get men to watch with them.

So yeah Ali feels says this is because men are retarded and don't go to school or get jobs.

There are still plenty of retarded men out there if you get desperate enough so this is this woman is is the problem she's like demonstrating the problem see.

And of course she doesn't have any shame I'm sure that she's a very beautiful lady let's find out here in a second.

I don't want to split the tabs here hold on.

Ali feels yeah so and of course she just goes out to the manus fear and endlessly.

The subtext of almost all manus fear discourse is that men don't have as much to offer in relationships now that we had we can feed ourselves and they'd rather overthrow society and bring us back to 1840 then learn to read or learn to F or have interesting conversations awesome.

Yeah these are people that we can totally have a conversation with.

Echo fixed itself nicely so there was there was echo okay I just like lowered the my my my speaker volume a little bit so Ali feels basically demonstrates the reason why men are not involved getting you know they're checking out cobra says because they all look more like this and you have women with pussy hats and equality and LGBT flags probably another AI image I'm guessing but pretty still pretty funny.

Dad says when you guys scared of go up to a pretty girl and just talk to her loader up with compliments and flattery they love that yeah sure dad.

Well dude that's not the issue the issues that you are not getting what's in the pic you're getting this.

Do you live in this world are you fucking out of your mind sure if you want a reputation as a sex pass on a creep lol so yeah I mean these guys understand that this is like the natural consequence of women's behavior towards men.

And I mean that's just what it is hello in Q cell Osmortem you guys can talk if you want to I see a request here.

Oh it's in Q cell okay welcome.

Can you talk.

Hello yes hello what's up.

Yeah no it's just calling it comment I guess nobody's exactly Q out here for that but yeah you're getting another yet another spot of discourse around the thing that's typically Chris schizophrenic just on the topic you know I cannot imagine going to something like this like in my mind this is always going to be.

Just a physical version of the meat gallery of the dating app me gallery i'm going to be there to to like be judged by a panel of women right it's it's not like they're going to hook up or or or not necessarily hook up just give a chance to date him a guy that it's like above 20% body fat right there's not going to happen like it's it's always going to be a disappointment because of.

Of the perception because of the perception of what is possible which is one of those old which is one of those old sort of.

In cell people were in it was basically over the moment camera is invented because that showed women what what's possible like what what the top.

A percentile of men look like and.

Ever since then.

Like woman will will not settle like right settling will get less and less owing to development of technology and globalization and mass communication and distance transport technology.

The incentive and or or willing us to quote unquote settle.

Dimension is ever more.

At any time a woman basically has the option the field of options expanded to her or made aware rather made aware of the field of options that is possible so when someone like Brad Pitt exists and a woman knows that someone like Brad Pitt exists.

She's walking into that into there without being like 15% body fat and jacked.

Even that probably wouldn't save me because my face you know my face is pretty like norm it here like very like five out of 10 six out of 10.

Sure not horribly deform and anything like that but even then.

Even if I were to put in like the gym workout a route which by the way I broke my arm doing that so that's that's great that it's fucking fascinating.

That that ticket to ticket to entry because the you know the topic at the hand is that men going for free men men's tickets to this are free well it's not fucking free because to have any kind of chance at all.

You have to put in like two hours two years of going to a gym to get somewhere between 15 and 20% body fat which is which is hardcore workout to even have a chance and you then move your mouth.

Right so so the entry isn't fucking free whatsoever right but nobody nobody's obviously the discourse team is not going to search that one.

And then there is this aura of like the meaning the humanizing sort of it's undignified like the told me market style of matchmaking is just physical version of dating apps like what what's why would I go to this in the first place.

I have a little chance in there and 80% of them have literally no chance in there owing to the phenomenon I just described with the woman.

Yeah yeah you can pay men to go there like fuck going free you wouldn't get men in there if you paid them.

No they don't they don't get men in there and they and they offer to pay them they one one event tried to get men off the street to just go.

And they weren't going so i'm saying that men are reacting in that they're responding accordingly to the environment as it is so.

Exactly and you know the discourse team and the so so that's the like material the thing on the ground right that that's the reality you know are you going to fix any this well the question is what are you fixing are you like what are you hoping to achieve with this.

Well like is there a profit incentive like what what does this venue how does this when you come about is this like a sort of civic city ran engagement that sort of what is tries to do like a public good type of service or is it like a private profit seeking enterprise or what's going on here you know I don't know.

But these are not city funded things these are these are private endeavors by you know people who I guess like to organize event organizer types and they were hoping to.

Probably like sell you know something like at whatever the bar or whatever venue they were at but.

Yeah I mean it's sort of I guess the the relevant part of it is that what we're talking about is the shift itself and the question is the first of all I don't think it's good news per se but I think some people are seeing like the way that some of the red pill guys are reacting to this it's as though they're celebrating it but they're not this is a problem that has come out of I think the sexual revolution.

And we're just like getting the downstream effects of that so yeah the fifth like okay okay there's there's like less men I don't think there was too many men in these in the first place.

No it wasn't like well the thing is the venues are were made with women in mind not with men in mind these events right if I hear like wine tasting like okay wine tasting like what kind of.

Is that that's not exactly a male admire attractive sort of enterprise that the true trying to so so there's a question of you know okay in this particular example okay is this actually trying to be something like some kind of mat making function or if it's really just a kind of like wine tasting society.

And they just want to have some men in there like maybe even the dating or hooking apart isn't even remotely the point the point is just to have a somewhat balanced you know society in there maybe maybe that's the whole point of this particular event but the.

Specifically like like institute what you're going to call it the events specifically speed dating events like explicitly created for the purpose of of of trying to help people match my job or trying to get people together.

When you're talking about okay they might let me talk about shift in the sense of okay that there's less men in there.

What's the outcome does what's the ultimate outcome like does that mean that more men does that more more relationships are created no it doesn't matter if it's a 10 to 1 woman or 10 to 1 men that the woman will still proportionally like not you know you're not going to get.

The rapid in there okay you're not going to get the 5% like what the fuck is going to a 5% chat going to go to a speed dating well well he wouldn't be called bed there like well what's his incentive to go there he can go to whatever club and pick up.

He doesn't go anywhere yeah so so the guide that would be picked that will have a reasonable chance it's never going to go there so when when they say shift it's maybe it's like some arbitrary shift in proportion in general proportion but when specifically talking about the dating events the relevant outcomes i.e.

getting people together state exactly the same which is zero there was no shift there guarantee you so so that's the reality and when the discourse the schizophrenic discourse which increasingly i am i'm i'm it's like people are just talking to.

Like hyper isolated creating hyper real bubbles in their heads with with cardboard can out of people and that that's the discourse like influencers TM talking to cardboard can out they put up and it's like oh the manosphere the man is charging over the hills and it's like a fucking paper army or something it's like a paper.

Look at the theater props it's bizarre it's just funny I like these people it's like mental illness inducing the the discourse TM part about around this and it's like oh oh and here's your token for it being being being sad and stuff then because the manosphere the manosphere that's in there in in in our head was mean or something it's like you people you people are completely schizophrenic like.

There's no discourse there's just your mental illness you know.

Content creation for the sake of content creation ultimately that that's the sort of like the base driver okay i've no nothing to talk about let's just create this little fucking potemkin village and play house in it and and we call content and comment like subscribe okay great fine but.

The option the downside of this is that it's just create the reality bubbles and any jump between them as your patronizing the different influencers and.

The reality doesn't even enter the equation at any point it's just you know cortisol spiking exercises all day every day.

And okay nothing was it like that is not even to say that okay if you had the correct perception if you had the correct talking points if you if you if you use the free marketplace idea of ideas to arrive at the truth or something.

Not that nothing would be resolved there anyway because the structural forces are completely like you cannot there's there's you can make dent in them.

There's just they're so arrayed so heavily towards this this developing and deepening is that these these functions that even if you okay if you've had all the right answers and all the right questions you still would be powerless and it will be only more depressing to you ultimately believe you just be the Cassandra you know.

Being you know starting into the void but like the bread Cooper example which is I think is that like the void that got fired from Ben Shapiro because oh she's getting to base guys we cannot we cannot contain.

I don't know if she got fired I think I think she well no I think she grew out of that that.

That you like zoom or college girl persona that she was playing and I think that I don't think that there was like a fall out or anything like that I think that she just like.

You know the daily wire had a brand and it was like you know 20 something college girl in her bedroom with like you know doing doing videos about social media and then Brett Cooper got married and got pregnant and basically grew out of it and they were like well this is in our brand anymore.

But yes that's the girl and she still kind of basically just I don't really watch her much because I don't find I don't know the content is not really for me but when I was looking into this New York Times podcast thing that was going viral I was just looking to see like what you know get information about it and one of the things I discovered was that she made a video about it so I watched her video about it because she does have.

1.7 million subscribers and I figured she's reaching people and I wanted to get her take and it's the there's nothing of substance there.

Is it huh.

Is it retarded for you didn't I interrupted you before you played the rest of the video I don't know what she actually says about it I'm just guessing it's some it's some.

You know college fate exercise once again well I mean she's not like no she actually the funny thing is is this is where it's getting to now when it comes to like the sort of you know when I say the red pill stuff I'm just talking about anyone who really understands the nature of women.

So I'm not specifically talking about you know Mick Tows or MRAs but just like anyone who understands the you know what's going on with women today with modern women in particular.

And I think that where Brett Cooper was landing because I didn't finish the video but I got close to the end of it I didn't watch it on this stream I was listening to it before I was getting the show set up and I think what I'm noticing and this is just happening with her it's happening with a lot of commentators that are.

They're basically being forced to confront this reality the reality that is modern women right now and they're not doing well like they're they're not doing well because they either land on the well you just got to suck it up and try harder guys bandwagon which no one is going for like that's basically like a done deal or they're trying to find the nuance but they're not really being.

Like upfront with it or in Brett Cooper's case she actually says she concedes basically every single red pill talking point she says yeah there's some truth to that and then she goes but you know it's a generalization but you know whatever like she's not able to just confront this reality but I will give her credit for at least not pretending like that doesn't exist.

And that's something because I saw another video I get so angry about this stuff but do you know Scott Galloway is in QCell.

Is that I'm probably confusing him with the British.

Yeah he's not British.

That George Galloway isn't it.

Oh I don't know George I've heard the name but no.

Okay well Scott Galloway is like this kind of like center left guy who talks about men and masculinity a lot but he's basically a male feminist that male feminist light kind of guy that thinks that there's a way for women to still have their cake and either too and men to get back on the plantation but not feel as bad about it.

He actually want to solve any problems he just wants to like you know to alter the perceptions with his words and it really pisses me off because he obviously knows the problems like he's list he lists all of the data you know about suicide about loneliness about despair about all of this other stuff but then he like throws it at things that are not women everything but that it's like oh it's the economy it's the way we're being the government's running us right now it's you know because he's got a team.

He's got a TDS it's whatever it's anything else except because like look in any in any kind of world we were living in a third world there are people that could form families and survive you know in that condition so it's got nothing to do with the way our country's run people in the third world right now are are married with kids like they're they're getting it done yeah they don't have all of our comforts and all of our you know let's say all of our you know

like I don't know what you call it but just like they don't live the way we do but they live right they meant they manage it so like Scott Galloway is an example of somebody who just won't face reality and he just wants to like just put put men back on the plantation at least Brett Cooper so far has acknowledged this reality and she's said I can't deny this is happening so she she just won't get to the place where she's willing to concede that the Red Pill

is right about women but this it doesn't matter if she can see they're not I know it's just happening but I do think that it's it's something that matters at least in terms of like getting the broader population to like look at this and accept this as reality and I think that the fact that this went really viral I don't know how many views this post got yeah 13.1 million views so it's getting it's got traction people know it's happening

and I think they're talking about it even if it is a small example like there was I think there was like I said at this one meet there was about 20 people and five of them were men and 15 were women but it is it is indicative of a broader pattern that's been happening everywhere but mostly in like high population cities not necessarily in like rural areas and stuff so

Gabriel says George Galloway is a Scottish scumbag politician oh okay okay yeah I was talking all the way I wouldn't call him a scumbag but I just think he kind of makes me mad because he knows what's wrong and he doesn't want to he doesn't it's just when when people are in denial about eating crow that's what obsessed me you know so see it a lot

okay so let's look at some of the other replies I got about 20 minutes and then I got to end the show so if anybody else wants to say anything go ahead and request to speak thank you and yourself for your for your thoughts all right

so humble student says there isn't enough money in the world to get me to listen to some retarded liberal girl from New York talk for an hour she can be the most beautiful woman to ever live in the second she opened her mouth she might as well have been big mic Obama

let's see what else some people are saying that love you are hung up on the AI image it's like guys that's not really the point just talk about the conversation talk about the topic

your let me see young men are afraid to talk to women yes women chose the bear somebody put a meme it's like a essentially a one minute long video of a dragon burning a group of people and the dragon is feminism and the people are civilization

Angela Bel Camino says I'm a New York City 9 and I went once all the men were under six feet made less than six figures and rented with roommates I do not recommend well there you go you are the problem exactly what I said yeah I know what do you expect to meet there do you expect to meet their like Brad it clones she this woman is a podcaster I think so she probably does like I think if you're like yeah

content creator bold seat podcast so she probably already has like a really inflated sense what that's not even a moment this is in New York City 9 Jesus Christ yeah well she lives in Orlando so or at least that's what it says here maybe I'll click maybe it's in India or something nope okay

sometimes you got to click on the on the thing to find out where they're actually at so okay

market pricing reveals this is a Citadel app market pricing reveals gender demand this is the real world that's an AI post by the

oh the Citadel app is an AI almost entirely yes in finance in finance interest circles on Twitter it's

completely flooded by like AI bots like replying just resetting the original post and the

shielding exercise is is the name of the account or something like that right it's completely like it's

horrible Jeff Goodsell says it's got an MBA I guess it says surely it's not because women are

narcissists now six is at best looking for a man who resembles Chris Hemsworth with a net worth of

one million dollars yeah yes are people mad he got 12 replies this is not even what happened though

shut up didn't that's red pill content go outside and touch some grass no he's not wrong see people

don't want to think they want to deny this what oh yeah you did a red pill I'm I'm I'm

crest is full on you yeah yeah rich satema says the men they're looking for aren't interested in

women like them anymore remember the demographic paying one hundred dollars to get into these events

just elected Mamdani yes they did in New York City let's see Ben Schiffman says everyone's

dunking on the AI art but this one hundred dollars thing was actually in the New York times

on the daily and it was not the weirdest part of the story the weirdest part was the singles events

where people literally wrestle strangers romantically that's so desperate man to be five dudes sounds

like a liability waiting to be yeah yeah no no no I would I would absolutely not do that

absolutely not um let's see uh Mike says they did it to themselves dating apps

destroyed dating every girl thinks she deserves a six foot three good looking dude who makes

300k men have just given up yep uh Murray Hill guy says any female who attended this event was

below a five out of 10 guaranteed probably that's another thing too um the difference is that

that a sub five woman would still have a chance yes she would there would it definitely be a look

a sub three woman would have a chance um but only if but the but the problem is though is that

that same sub five woman would think she deserves something like that is absolutely out of her

range like way out of her league and that's the problem Zarynx gave us a rumble rant thank you

Zarynx for five dollars and he says this has been going on for at least the last five years China

South Korea Japan US etc plenty of videos from woman talking about lack of men they don't care

to understand why it is the way it is but there isn't a lack of men they're everywhere

but most of them are invisible to these women so okay there is uh there is a theory or not really

a theory but but but talking point that feminists uh come out with uh regarding this when

when the so it comes up fairly often that or in the past women were dependent on men that the

implication being that the lack of technology and the lack of moral sophistication in it that

in times where liberal rights revolution hasn't happened yet right so so that's what I mean

with moral sophistication uh like in those times men's value was effectively subsidized and women were

forced to sort of perform with men and now in the in the enlightened enlightened sunny uplands

we find ourselves in with all the rights and all the ACs and and everything else

that this now we and now can see a true like remarket in terms of where without subsidies without

subsidizing male value just you know men's standing presenting their value their true value on their

without interference from from like outside right and then at the fact of course it's

man the women don't want to pair well so maybe uh it's it's it's it's ironic because it's like from

from the feminist perspective it's like this weird adherence to almost anarcho-capitalism that

is completely misapplied to like marketization of social relations we which doesn't belong there

at all but nevertheless they somehow find themselves in on the side of like Austrian school economics

ironically the feminism being ideologically worked this and ultimately it seems that

however that that men and women and their pain-burning capabilities and and incentives and

whatever else evolved around this quote-unquote subsidy which is really just asymmetric uh sexual

it's basically just sexual dimorphism right man and man have the utility and and stuff like that

when you when you socialize this utility when you somehow take this away utility away which

is presently mostly just done done done by socializing it away to the state yeah then then then

sort of like men lose their side of the equation they they could have all lose the subsidy but what

it is they they just lose their lose their ability to project value right and it will end up having

to be like if there is any way to fix this at all it is going to involve like having women be

materially dependent on men which means like straight up banning women from working it's going to

have to come to that because you you cannot even maybe you have maybe the modern liberal society had

unlock the final technology in the moral tech tree with civil rights and everything and and we now

get to enjoy the fruits of that uh the evolution didn't sort of uh didn't catch up to that right uh

evolution didn't somehow turn us into since 1965 evolution hasn't turned us into unisex

sort of uh goobacks from southbar so

the solution is radical the solution is reversal of all that but but uh again

in a democratic system as it stands now there's exactly zero chance of that that it's structurally

impossible to enact anything like that like a sort of like banning women from working like

intentionally as a matter of policy establishing material dependence of women as a class on men

as a class that's not going to happen in democracy that is structurally impossibility so yeah that's

mm-hmm well you know Allison just sent me a message because she doesn't want to come on the show

herself but she wants to tell me what to say um where she says women used to bring dowry to a

relationship and they also provided materially as well yeah i mean um with they used to basically

there were things expected of them that we just don't expect of them anymore and the that is

i think that's kind of killing them too because it that takes away their own they have no purpose

that's why they're just being they just see being free as an end of you know in and of itself it's

not really doing them any favors yeah it's driving them insane yes yes they're getting

medicated and everything because they're they're they're just not um they're not ready for this much

liberty but even beyond that like they they won't see you know even if they weren't like

completely pathological even without the medication and we're all medication on SSRI

they're like it's like no the SSRIs are a symptom it's like a German Wehrmacht Borrier in 1940

on Pervettin attacking France like it's completely you cannot deal with it this with this creature

rationally at the point right with the moment it gets on SSRIs and I know the entire battering

sannacks and sogloff and and and all these this battery of of pharmacological

schedules even then even when women weren't insane they wouldn't I don't think they would find

men attractive if they weren't like the necessity of them because it is it seems to be the case that

attraction at least in some form from the woman side develops with familiarity meaning if if

women just were just forced to you know not in a sort of arranged marriage situation or like forced

marriage not in maybe not exactly maybe not entirely arranged but in a situation where the woman

is forced to to pack up with them and sort of be in a presence of men and the attraction then

develops right but maybe if he isn't forced if people maybe from that it is feasible or possible

that a normal healthy relationship that lasts you know decades and forms a family and his success

by all measures that that comes from that right but this it would have been an outcome of of

of the initial forcing of the issue of like press-ganging the woman into it right that the outcome is

ultimately positive biometrics but the means are forceful let's just say and that the outcome the

positive outcome wouldn't have materialized if the woman was just quote unquote free right and

was free to use for free to keep waiting until she's 40 for fucking Brad Pitt to appear somewhere right

yeah yeah um so another guy's post said alcohol sales have dropped weed sales have dropped he's got

like a global condom market graph here condom sales have increased rich men are protecting

themselves from many women make sense I guess um

uh doctor nuan chu kuu uh there's some african guy's name I don't know says a woman shelling

out a hundred dollars to get in the door while men walk in free and it's still with three women

for every man that's not brutal dating that's the market showing its cards there's our

old men in New York City are the scarceest resource apps trained top tier guys to expect abundance

with zero effort average guys many don't bother showing up women burned out on swipes ghosting

and low effort dates so they're paying premium for controlled environment um maybe I mean but uh

I was trying to find some of the like I know Pearl said something about this and the fresh and

fit guy said something about this let me see what Allison says it lippy right now I'm debugging

fucking python scripts let's get rid of just let's just get rid of feminism see what happens

that's what Allison said um well I think this will do it because like women you know they're like

45% of women are going to be childless and alone in uh probably in about like I don't know 10

years they're paying premiums to be ignored well men aren't showing up anyway so let me see if I can

find uh fresh and fits reaction to this and uh read it for you guys I mean Brett Brett read it

so maybe I can just find it in her video she that's like her video is just reading people's comments

and then giving her takes um so what's this one say let me see just a moment uh

Chrissy I think this is the result of all the men hatred that's been spewed over the last few years

to be honest I think it's important to hold men accountable and vice versa but hating men

became a trend which is why I think good men don't feel comfortable approaching women

the way they used to uh sure I guess um myring gains here it is he says I called this six years

ago the red pill explosion woke millions of men uh up to modern women's game for a decade average

guy has got ignored ghosted and treated like options now they're done they'd rather grind video

games stack cash hit the gym or it or just live free then blow the thousands chasing entitled

unappreciative women in loud bars or on apps men are fed up with the disrespect the hypergamy

and the attitude this migtow slash red pill trend isn't slowing down it's accelerating

year after year more women will more men will opt out women ignore the warning signs now they're

living with the consequences I talk about this extensively in my second book why women deserve

even less which is the sequel to his book why women deserve less which is a sequel to my first

book why women deserve less late below I'm he's obviously using it to sell a book but no but I

mean he's right though so uh when did we stop holding men accountable it's it's a it's a stupid

common else and why are you never mind go ahead what we're gonna say uh yeah there's uh

right uh the implication in here and i i i'm familiar with mr

gains again the sort of content he's not his actual name his name is like some some Arab thing

because it's he's from Saudi Arabia or something Sudan he's from Sudan

the thing is the woman might not care like the implication in that in that post and the

implication in in his in his content often is that all the women we come to will come to regret

this at some point uh maybe they don't what if they don't you know uh if what if they can just

you know coast in the morally evolved sunny uplands of feminism where they are single at 40

and just ring wine and and have cats and and are basically the the society's preferred consumer class

and everything is provided for them and they are the first class citizen I don't think that

that's sustainable though i about so i don't think i i i i don't and i don't think that i think a

lot of them are not going to be happy with that they're going to say that they're happy but it's

cope they're already unhappy they're miserable well yeah everybody copes that's the thing uh yeah

and somehow better than not and it might be and i suspect this will be true that woman will be

fine ultimately with being single when they will try to go through the riga moral they will try to

go through the speed dating events and after enough experience of they will of course have their

you know 20s whole face experience some of the time when it comes to settle down it will be like

norwooded betas right someone like me that as it's working the typical slavic norwood and it's

like okay no thanks no thanks i'm fine and when they realize uh that that basically dating or

marrying an idyllic relationship with breath it's not on the table uh then we'll just say okay the

cat's the wine and pro-zac is good enough right so women's dissatisfaction may not materialize

and to the extent that it will will not be the any kind of sufficient catalyst per structural change

or change of any kind well then it's a self-correcting phenomenon because the men and women who are

getting together are going to have kids and so like that that's going to like basically the people who

endure they're probably going to be conservative are the ones that are going to carry it on and the

ones that don't that live in the sort of liberal urban monoculture they will probably just die off

all like with no children in no legacy the problem with conceiving person

the the the the issue will be forced by uh you know the economic realities and the

production realities they'll listen talks about all the time we would you that add if the production

and productivity and the incentive for the productive the only productive class is going to

disappear yet and then then something is going to break eventually like you can you can

can't derivative yourself like creating financial derivative product out of increasingly shrinking

the actual production class to point where one guy making widgets you know the last guy the last

man on the planet making widgets in a factory holds the entire economy on his shoulders and

everything everything like all the trillions floating in the economy is ultimately a derivative

of the one widget he's making per day or something right yeah that situation is like going to

collapse eventually somewhere somehow but so I so I slip my mind what I wanted to say but

you're right conceiving of this of a sort of like Darwinian selection pressure event

wherein okay the man mentally illiberal woman will just you know fade into you know fade into dust

eventually and conservative insane people will will continue to procreate even if they will

manage to do that on insufficient numbers that doesn't break the spine of the economy which I

don't think will happen you it is going to suck it is going to going to suck for the equivalent

proportion of men because before every catalyst headwomen that decides it's fine being you know

societies prefer consumer first-class citizen on prosak and vine and cats for every one of those

there is an equivalent in cell sure that's you know rotting somewhere so so this Darwinian

selection pressure event is going to create an incredible amount of misery and yeah that is

my point it's not going to be as childhoods like fading into nothingness fading into

like like going gently into the night goodnight right it's going to be miserable for a lot of people

yeah yeah it's going to be a lot of suffering um except for the people who are able to

essentially like exist outside of that system that is depending on men's productivity essentially

but yeah it is going to suck and I don't know if there's any other way for people to like snap out

of it so but look I got to end the show here um because we're at the hour and I got to go pick up

the wife so thank you in yourself for your commentary appreciate it um and thank you guys I want

to know what you guys think about this this uh well it is kind of you know it's it's it's it's

dire we're in a we're in a dire situation and everyone's still like I said dancing around

the reality and they don't want to face it um and we'll just keep telling people you know like

warning them about it so see what happens I guess but I'll be here for that and uh thank you guys

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