14 Bold Predictions for Ball State vs. Ohio State

0:00Let's get started! This time, yeah, what about you? Hello everybody, welcome to the Buck Eyed Weekly podcast. I'm Tony Gerteman here as always with Tom or Tom. How's it going? Tony is that time of year again. I say with some regret in my voice. Exciting in my voice because college football is back, but a little bit regret in my voice because well, the bowl prediction shows are back and we asked the people, do you want us to do these live this year? And they said, no, and we said, well, you don't have to listen to you.

1:01You're not the boss of me. And so here we are. Here we are with a little bit of excitement, a little bit of disdain, not for you, but for Tom. As you all know, and of course, we welcome you all in as we go through this. And Tom, I won last year. I believe we have agreed on that on the bowl predictions. I don't think well, at least I believe I won the spring bowl predictions. And I'm pretty sure we did our season bowl predictions a week or so ago. And I'm out to a good start on that one. But if you would like to go first and the if you're this is the first time you're ever tuning in for these bowl predictions. And I don't know why it would be the first time. Five, one point bowl predictions, they're bold. Then you get the one, two point bowl prediction, which is bolder. And then a three point prediction, which is slightly bolder than a two. But much, much bolder than a one. And we tell you these up after the game and somebody gets to brag about it. And the post game show of which we will also have one of those immediately following the Ohio State game against ball state on Saturday.

2:06And so Tom, I guess I'll let you go first. Yeah, we should also mention like we're not the only people who have done bowl predictions. We do it worse than anyone else, but we're not the only ones who do it. But we are careful to police each other because the word bold. Some people know what that word means and some people are Tony. And so we have to make sure people are, you know, we keep people in line to make sure and. Are there stakes friends? You know there's stakes. The loser of bold predictions, Tony, what does a loser of bold predictions get? The loser of bold predictions has to sleep on the cat of shame on road games. Now, this, that means this is a very big, very, very big bold prediction show because, of course, next week there is a long trip to Austin, Texas, which will be there Thursday, Friday and Saturday night. And so, somebody after that game is going to need a back the enemy.

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4:13We got a bunch of stuff planned. So you have to sign up at buckeyeinsiders.com right now to get access to all that. All that done. That's the end of us talking about the important stuff and the good stuff now on to the actual theme of the show bold predictions. And let's see Tony. How about this? We didn't explain 17 and 34 for people who don't know, but go I assume they'll figure it out. Tony, we know who will highest kick returners going to be. We know he's probably only getting it at maybe one or two chances at most to return a kick. That is why Tony. It is so bold for me to say that legend, babe, we'll have a kick return of at least. 34 yards. Yeah, I'm going to I can't dispute that one being a little bit bold even though the real boldness here is it's a 50 50 shot whether or not he even gets to return one. Right. And then you've got to add on to that getting the 34 yards out of it. So I'm good with this one. I unfortunately we've kicked off the season with an agreement.

5:14And you know, that's not what people are here for, but a legend, babe, with a kickoff return of at least 34 yards. At least 34 yards. Okay. And I wish there was something I could argue about that one. What I will say in lieu of the arguing. If you guys want to throw some questions in the chat, we will get to those after the bold predictions, but we're basically doing essentially two shows here. We're going to do some bold predictions. Then we'll answer all of the questions. And in, and if you're interested in super chats and lieu of the super chats, I'm signing up for membership over at Buck I and Siders. That is the absolute best way to support what we do. But time you went bold with a 34 yard play. How about this? Something that has only happened two times in college football history and all I'm asking for is one point. Friends, if you're new here when he prefaces something like that, you're about to hear some nonsense. Go ahead, Tony. Tell everyone what's what's about to happen. Jeremiah Smith will have a 70 yard reception. So tell me now that that's not bold. He's done it once a year as an Ohio State Buck I of is 170 receptions only two have gone 70 yards. So yes, I'm only asking for one point there. What do you think?

6:32Okay, so this is I'm a little scared. I'm concerned that either one or both of us has suffered kind of a some kind of a closed head injury or the earth may be wobbling on its axis, but I'm okay with this one as well like this, this feels, this feels bold. Now Jordan Kapler wants to know how dare you, which is a fair question. We will get to that in the next show. Yeah, the next show on the podcast feeds it'll be the same the live feed on YouTube, but I think this is a good one because it's a this is something that you know sometimes you'll say that and it's like yes only twice has someone thrown an interception against this person specific team or something like that. But no, I think that's a good one because it's it's something that no no no one said that you take that off the screen right now. I just was talking about for the listeners at what he said if the cake returns between 17 and 34 yards and I get the points, I think that's fantastic and that is a nice record that we should keep in there. So, you know, I like this one. I think anytime you're predicting a big play like are there ways this happens absolutely do I think this is even 30 to 40% likely to happen. Yeah, maybe not quite that maybe not quite 40, but you know 25 30% likely because they're going to try and hit some big shots.

7:50So, I'm going to try and get him some highlight plays get some stats on the board and you know probably get him off the field by the middle of the third quarter at the latest, but yeah, I think this is something that you're trying to do this a lot. You can't do it that often. So, yes, I like that one. All right, let's see if we can find something that we can disagree about. I don't know, this one's pretty good too. How about this Tony Ohio State scores on each of its first half offensive possessions and they must have a minimum of five possessions five scores and a minimum of 31 points so they can't just kick like three field goals or whatever. They have to score on each first half possession minimum of five scores minimum of 31 points. I am already bracing myself for them to do this and then have a kneel down right at the end of the half that that blows this up for me, but I think it's bold. Score on every first half possession must be at least 31 points or at least four touchdowns.

8:51Now, every first half possession, okay, at least 31 points. I would say can I throw one one additional thing in there and when I ask it, I mean, I'm doing this. The drives need to be at least 34 yards long. They can have one drive of less than 34 yards because you might get a turnover somewhere. People, Ohio State scores at every first half drive and they have the audacity to intercept the pass and start a drive inside their the ball state 34. I don't think I should be punished for that necessarily. My favorite kind of punishment would be like if legend Bay returns it like 60 yards and took like the 17 yard line or whatever and the 12 yard line and then you wouldn't get credit for that touchdown drive. I think that would be fantastic. Why is that guy in the end zone screaming go down go down. I don't understand. What's what why why boom no technique.

9:53How about this condition? Only one drive of less than 34 yards, but every drive has to be at least one yard. Yes, I will allow that. Yes. That way if there's a legend Bay kickoff return for touchdown that does not count towards you. Oh, no, you took your finger off the checker. That's not a drive though. So therefore it doesn't count. Well, if it's a problem, we'll argue it later later on. I hear you with you on the cot all the way on the other side of the hotel room. I don't know. I'm going to play next one. And this is something a name that popped up randomly via Ryan day and it's something that has only happened once last year. Zion Grady with a sack on Saturday. He like I say, he had one last year's a true freshman. Ryan day and kind of out of the blue talking about the defensive lines that yeah, you know, can you out of Jackson's kind of play Zion Grady's certainly going to play. And so that made us both a kind of like take notice. So that's why I'm going to throw that in here. Zion Grady with a sack on Saturday. All right. So 1.0 sacks or more for Zion Grady. Yes.

10:56Okay. Okay. Yeah. I think that's fair. This is one where I think we kind of need to sort of set the precedent that unless you have like a chase young type guy generally picking someone to have a whole sack in a game or an interception or a fumble recovery or something like that. Any individual player to do that outside of like real edge cases where you know if I have sacks and four games in a row like okay, we're probably not going to let you do it again. But in this case, you don't have a total track record there. I think this is a good pick. But I think that's a home. Oh man. We'll read that in a minute. But I think I think this is a good I think this is a good shout because I think this is another one that is entirely plausible that it happens. But not you know there's enough precedent there that we have seen him not doing it yet that I think I'm going to allow our buddy Fort Wayne Buck I says I think if Tom loses this week. He has to wear that sweatshirt all day in Austin next Saturday. He must keep his basement as cold as Mr. Freeze's layer.

11:57I am in the basement and it is you know the AC is on the little secret is I have my all of my Buckeye insiders polo shirts like the one that Tony has on those are all upstairs and I thought shoot I don't have time to go upstairs and get one again because I was sort of hustling back down here. So I thought well I'll just throw this on and it's okay, but no respectfully decline your generous offer. I have a couple black Buckeye insiders shirts I'm packing the white one for next the white white moisture wicking one for next Saturday in Austin thanks so much. Alright what's your next one pointer. My next one pointer. How about something Tony that did not happen at all last season for Ohio State. Is this a prediction about legend Bay? I think it's a better one but no. Yeah you know what legend Bay returns a kick how about that legend Bay is back for a kick return never happen in college football. Actually is it is no it's your turn it's it is my turn yes because you just design great.

12:59Three different Buckeyes will have at least 50 yards rushing that did not happen at all last season and they only came close once. So I think it's a good one. Usually if some if they've done this like three times we start to remove a player like as we go back and forth and but if this only happened once last year can I ask you which Mac team did happen against it did not happen last year. And I did not go back I did not go back to 2024 but I don't like I my first thought was I bet they did it against Grand League State and they didn't so. Because 50s you get three guys with 30 in games like this three guys with 50 a lot of times that third guy has to pop a long long or something like that in order to get there. Because you know there were a bunch there was a game last year where someone had a hundred and then a couple guys had you know one guy had 48 one guy had 38 or something like that but it just three guys with 40 does not happen very often three guys with 50 sorry does not.

14:03I like how you're like well I did not look beyond 2024 and very much reminded me of Jean Smith when back in Tatgate when they decided to go ahead and go to a ballgame in 2011 and his explanation was well we look back at five years of precedence on ball bands and then like but if you'd gone seven years you would have seen like you're going to get you're going to get dang so time I commend you for you found all of the data that you're interested in finding you know what. Don't go looking for any more data because now you can just say it didn't happen last year now did it happen eight times in 2024 probably but we're not here to talk about 2024 i'll go ahead and allow this now. Now. I think I think one of the issues you could run into is that there may be like four or five guys with 40 yes, but also. It only takes one carry for somebody to be because both Jackson will get their eyes a west you seem to get there and then you've got two other guys maybe like vying in in terms of legend bay and Jacobi Jackson being in that 30 to 60 range so you know will allow that's fine time to some of people can understand and get refreshed into what I have to deal with here.

15:25Time here's something that has never happened in history of college football. J Timon steps on the football field wow incredible not since Rutgers in Princeton in 1869 wow you only want one point for this I can't believe it go on actually you know what let's do my J Timon's full prediction right here to impact plays for J Timon's and his first career game and impact play being a pass break up an interception of four. First fumble a touchdown a tackle for loss. Past defense you know stuff like that anything that's just outside of your normal tackle i'm saying at least two for him two full ones but even a half a tackle still an impact play but what do you think about that you cannot argue that it did not happen last year with Ohio State's nickel and as we know you only need to go back one year to prove once you're trying to prove. See I like this one I think outside of again. Really specific cases I generally feel like predicting multiple impact plays for any one individual player is generally considered a fair prediction on these types of shows.

16:37You know if you get to a again like a chase young or a kale of downs or whatever you we might need to need to come up with something else there but. For someone that has not played before for someone who's probably not going to play all four quarters I would certainly assume I think that's a good I think that's a good prediction I will I will allow that one so all right let's see. How about this one Tony i'm going to we're going to sort of we have never talked I don't think about an impact play on special teams but we're going to do that right here. Ohio State makes an impact play on special teams we're going to define that as a touchdown. A safety or a blocked kick of some kind. Okay. Yeah I mean they put a lot of focus into the special teams bringing in Robbie Dishy as the coordinator and then you know really wanting to make that right now he's talking about it's a third of the game and you know in past years has been are you sure it's more like an eighth of the game now they're trying to increase.

17:41That I guess that denominator there and and make it more of the game so I like that one i will even allow you to have you to tackle for loss in there. Listen if they tackle the punter for loss it is it will be an impact play about this. You could have ball state faking a field goal and then having somebody break up the pass you all even allow that one yeah if that one happens i'm not going to be happy. Just just to let you know and okay so we'll go with that one and for everybody that's tuning in now go ahead and throw your questions and we'll get to those one we're done with the people predictions once we're done with the nonsense we'll get to the more important stuff so if you got some questions about. Buck is what we've seen what we've heard what what to expect Saturday throw those in there if you're watching on Twitter you want to come find us over on YouTube you can do that at youtube.com slash at buck I insiders if you want to get your questions in that's the only way to do it. Tom back to the thing that has never happened before in college with all history.

18:41That you're so dismissive of and you're going to feel like a full beat for being that way. Devon McEwan is going to score touchdown as an Ohio State Buck I didn't do it last year didn't do it the year before and before you continue to scoff or as you continue to scoff i will remind you. We were allowing this for Jeremiah Smith until about maybe week four when it's like all right no more no more Jeremiah Smith touchdowns just one touchdown equals a point so then it became it's got to be at least two touchdowns so I know you want to try to. To finish this and and whatever but i'm saying Devon McEwan a touchdown on Saturday. You leaning back on precedent like this feels like oh did you get a temporary restraining order from a judge in Louisiana oh congratulations alright well I guess i'm powerless to stop you. Fine I i'm i don't care for this and this feels like one that very well might be in club Jeremiah in a couple weeks where.

19:41I don't I have a sense i'm not going to be allowing this for the Kent State game but I feel like I. Same don't I kind of no I get I get a freebie this is you're using your freebie right here so i'm going to have to allow this just based on. Based on precedent and we we don't have respect for each other but we do have a respect for the rule of law on the show so I think that's. Reluctantly allowed reluctantly permitted. That's kind. Alright so we have we've gone through both four one pointers for each each of us correct yep yep. Boy i've got three good one pointers here and i'm trying to decide which one I want to use. Um. How about this one Tony. Once in college football history one time do you remember the 2023 Purdue game. No good glad Brandon and us did a thing in that game okay alright and that thing was to catch a long touchdown pass I think it was a 58 yarder yeah.

20:50And never since then. And that's just a little bit more than 46 yards in receiving in a game only the one time as a true freshman and that was I believe from Devon Brown which I mean that obviously doesn't count so. In this game Brandon and us will set a career high asterisk not including the 2023 Purdue game with at least 46 yards receiving. We've already established the precedent is the strongest force in the universe you have to at least go 59 yards i'm sorry if you want to use this one i thought you're going to say 59 yards and i was going to be like i have no choice but to allow this because of precedent and and yet you're going like. You know what remember remember that time you have 58 yards get about that time i want to talk about you said you forgot about that time i asked you. I remember what happened to the I remember the one thing that happened in that game. Would you like to revise or just move on to one of your other great one pointers.

22:00He's going to do 59 yards come on man yeah maybe. I'm sorry to question Jeremiah Jeremiah Smith got a 70 yard touchdown we know Devin McEwen's got a touchdown yeah we know they're only going to play for the first half we know they're going to have a bunch of guys run in the ball at some point you're I have a feeling he's going to end up with. Just over 46 but not i'm not confident enough in 59 so alright i'm going to try something else. Something else Tony since we've established. If didn't happen last season didn't happen in college football history or on the record I remember very clearly go back and watch if you think you didn't say it. Ohio State not once last season had multiple interceptions in a game not one time. Going to happen on Saturday two interceptions or more for the Ohio State defense. This is so annoying we're going to allow this the unfortunate thing here is. Celtic Luster the ball state quarterback is four of 12 passing in his career. He is one of three passing all time against power four opponents for zero yards.

23:05The last but again he does have playoff experience he did play. How many interceptions has he how many interceptions has he thrown. Already time already said that you got it two interceptions now. To exactly no I said two or more. Okay all right two or more interceptions. For Ohio State. Yeah I mean. How many times did they do it 2024 again we know that doesn't matter I think twice they did it once against. I think this is the thing I looked they did they had I think two against Michigan and two against Akron I think that year wow so they've done it a lot recently the century when they do it they have a 50% chance of losing so I mean if you think they have a 50% chance of losing on Saturday. Well I mean I'm not saying that so they had eight last year they did it yes they did it twice in 2023 2023 they did it. Twice in 2024 I mean even even two times a year is still you're just looking for one.

24:11Bold prediction like now we're not going to talk about 2021 when they did it four times all right so we'll just stick to the last four years for your sake. And we'll go ahead and allow this. Can I remove one player. I can't but thanks for asking you know what is there is there a defender that has a 17 it cannot be cary wilder who's wearing 34. You have to power list to stop you here I'm powerless to stop you and glad you did not take away TJ Alfred who were 17 right so that was I didn't want to do that to you I did I just forgot. Last one pointer Christian Allegro has two tackles for loss he did this twice last year one of those times was against Ohio State has not ever done it for the buck eyes he has done it against the buck eyes so every game that he's played involving Ohio State he's done it I'm still saying it's going to be two tackles for loss and that's bold enough for me.

25:19I don't really love this one and I'm trying to decide if I want to give you one of my other ones or want to again he's going to play and packages. And he'll just over one half and he will also be rotating out as we know with Riley Penny Jenna TJ Alfred so it's like he may have 35 snaps in this game so you know do with that information what you will which remains that you will disregard it but go ahead. I'm going to offer you another option Jordan Thomas has an impact play that was on my that was on my list I thought about that one and I like that one I want now Christian frankly I think that one might be more likely to hit in Christian Allegro with two tackles for long I think Jordan Thomas is more likely to hit so if you want me to take that one I'll take it. Yeah, I just frankly I just feel like that's a good one and one of us should use it and I I think you know I I like Jordan Thomas a lot I think that he's been coming on pretty strong during fall camp and I think he's someone who again will define will do will define this as tackle for loss interception pass break up force fumble fumble recovery I think that's it but it is it's the potter Stewart you know when you see it.

26:41So Tom do you want to address this one here from sure so Steve wants to know what is it with 34 and 17 it always comes up in ball predictions what's the origin story. The origin story with this as with everything in ball predictions is spite we were just trying to come up with a way to make things a little more difficult on each other so we would exclude things that were you know hey you can. He you know this guy is going to score a touchdown receiving but it can't be between 17 and 34 yards or you know this guy's going to have a run but it can't be it is going to have a run of at least 40 of up to 40 yards or something between 20 and 40 yards but it can't be exactly 34 yards or something like that just to make life a little more difficult on each other and we will occasionally have 17 plus 34 get 51 51 will occasionally be an exclusion on certain certain things. We just sort of landed on these numbers because they're not numbers that come up a lot in football but their numbers that will come up often enough that every once in a while we'll have something where we think we've gotten one and one of you know I'm down on the field Tony's up in the press box and I will text him ha ha I just got this and Tony will say actually that was 34 yards and 34 yards was an exclusion and then he gets to watch me crumple to the ground down on the field with devastation and that's really good.

28:02Yeah, and that's really that's really what this is all about that's the point that's the point. Your first two pointer. My first two point once again I have a couple here. How about Ohio State? Do you know how many rushes of 40 plus yards Ohio State had in all of 2025? I believe they had three four four rushes of 40 plus yards. I'm going to say they have at least two rushes of 40 plus yards this weekend. That's pretty funny because that's very similar to my three pointer. So I'm two rushes of 40 yards. I'll go ahead and allow that. All right, you heard him. So whatever his three pointer is we don't have to allow it. He's already on the record. Go on Tony. No, no, no, do you want to just skip to my three pointer then and go ahead and address this. I have this, which is something that has only happened.

29:06Like this specific thing has not happened. There are months. There's only been two months in the last three years where they've done this. Okay. And that my three pointer is three 30 yard rushes in this game. See, they had, I think they had eight. I think I remember how to spell CFB stats. It's been a while. I think they had eight of those last year. Long rushing plays 2025. So they had eight of those last year. So. They had two in September and August. They had one in October.

30:07And they had five in November. And I'm saying in one. And that was in five games in November. They had five. I'm saying in one game here. They will have three Tom. And yes, that is a two point bold prediction. Wait, no, three point. See, I agree. It's a two point. I'd give you two points for it. You choice. You can have two points for it or you have two points for it or three rushes of 34 yards or more. You're just one of that reaction. It's like people see like, yeah, I mean, it has to happen. Gosh, darn it. Three, 34 yard rushes or more. Okay. Yeah. Lock it in. I have no choice on that one. So that one is settled. That's my three pointer. Okay. Tom, what is your three pointer? I'm going to say, first time, Tony, since 2019, 2019, we were so young. No one had even heard of Corona was a beer. Like it wasn't a thing. No one knew what any it was such a young and innocent time Ryan day.

31:20And the first game is Ohio State's head coach. No beard, like just young youthful Ryan day. In that game against Miami, three Ohio State quarterbacks through a touchdown pass, three different Ohio State quarterbacks through a touchdown pass in that game hasn't happened since until Saturday when three Ohio State quarterbacks throw a touchdown pass. And I'm saying quarterbacks. I'm not trying to sneak in the side door and go, oh, legend, but a throw touchdown pass three Ohio State quarterbacks throw a touchdown pass. And the most likely three pointer ever, you know, because of the situation of the back of quarterback situation and wanting to figure out who that is. And if you really want to get the best information, you got to let them both throw. So I don't like this one. So I'm going to have to add something to it. I will say, how about this time? None of the third quarterback, whoever the third quarterback is, the touchdowns cannot be between 17 and 34 yards inclusive.

32:22I don't care for you and using the word inclusive there because then that removes another couple of you can have one or the other. How about how about this? The first touchdown between 17 and 34 yards, regardless of quarterback, the first touchdown pass between 17 and 34 yards, regardless of quarterback does not count. Nope, I don't like that one. Third quarterback has to be outside of the 17 to 34 yard range. How about this has to be outside 17 to 33 will allow a 34 yarder. Okay. All right. So the third quarterback cannot be 17 to 33 yards. Yeah. Okay. But if the second quarter, if the third quarterback throws two touchdowns, the second one can, if they're both. Yes. Okay. Good. Yeah. Wait. Wait. Wait. If they're both like if they're both. Yeah. I see what you're saying. Yes. They're both between 17 and 30. This only cancels the only negates the first touchdown pass or the third quarterback.

33:22I'm not trying to be punitive here. I'm just trying to be just unfair. Very reasonable. That's it's all I want to when people will mention your name. That's the first word that comes out of my mouth. Now my fun that you can say on TV. Reasonable. My two pointer. And let's go this one for two points. Time. Christian Allegro will have two tackles for loss. No, just not. I feel like you've been glit in the matrix. What's going on here? My actual two pointer, legend Bay with a 51 yard touch. I don't like it. But I also don't really have a. Got no leg to stand on. Well. Legend Bay with a 51 yard touch from scrimmage. So excluding kickoffs. Okay. But that kickoff that you had has to be between 34 and 50 yards.

34:24You want to exclude the 51 year. You kickoff return. You've got to exclude it for everybody. 51 yards. 51 yards. That's right. Russ. Thank you all for joining us. So we're going to be doing. Excluding. The. First four minutes of the third quarter. So now we're getting into the coin toss in Ohio State, the fring or not winning. And then you expect the your kickoff return to come at the start of the third quarter. So you were trying to exclude this. Legend Bay with a 51 yard. But the other thing Thomas, he's playing in that third quarter. I'm trying to be reasonable. I'm not trying to take. I'm trying to take everything from you. I'm just a. I would four minute window of time.

35:25I think I would rather have that four minutes than the first quarter. Or at least that the first half of the first quarter, you know. Okay, that's fine. Then we'll take the we will take the first seven and a half minutes of the game off the. Okay, either. Outside of the first seven and a half minutes of the of the game. So about five minutes early tonight. Try and get your Thread and then even aной sixteen finishes. How did you feel. Bad bad text chain. If something happens here. Okay. All right. If I do not come up with my bonus for you and I forget the bonus, with one for you. Ohio State has at least one rush of no sorry Ohio State has

36:26at least one point where on the stat sheet they're averaging more than 3.4 yards per rush. At least one point during the game they're averaging more than 3.4 yards per rush. The good news is if this doesn't happen and you would get a bunch of bonus points because you didn't get your freebie. The good news is that Columbus will be burning down so it won't be a problem. So we'll have bigger issues if this doesn't happen. My bonus for you is there'll be a tackle for Iowa State either at the land of scrimmage or behind the land of scrimmage. At some point over the four quarters plus whatever overtime entails. Now you're remembering that the overtime format is a little bit different and they no longer play out each one it's just kind of two point conversion. Yeah I didn't know that factor. The latter's okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I think that's I think that's a fair one. So yes I will. I will take that. And so you there you go. We are we are done with the both predictions and

37:57here remember F way tell me that two points all right. We can still a card leave tonight. you