#441 | Out-of-Body Explorer: Jordan’s Simulator Theory Shatters Reality | ET Assistance & Free Will

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2:02Today we're just going to skip all the announcements and dive right in. We're very excited to be joined by our new friend Jordan Crowder. He host the, he has a YouTube channel titled, it's self-titled YouTube channel, Jordan Crowder, but it is the platform for the podcast, the Conscious Observer's podcast. And I'm going to read through his bio very briefly, and then we're going to dive into what he has been up to, very fascinating stuff. And if you haven't gone and checked out his YouTube channel, go over there right now, give him a like and subscribe. Jordan Crowder is some amazing content. And that's why we're here today because there's a lot to talk about. But Jordan is a Consciousness researcher, author, speaker, and the host of the award-winning Conscious Observer's podcast. Following a transformative near-death experience in 2019, he dedicated his life to understanding consciousness and exploring humanity's role in shaping reality. Trained at the legendary Monroe Institute, which we're going to get into today, Crowder combines insights from neuroscience, philosophy, emerging technology, and metaphysical traditions

3:04to challenge conventional assumptions about the mind, identity, and human potential. And it goes on, but that's just in a nutshell kind of who you are and what you do. So I guess we'll turn it over to you, giving an opportunity to better introduce yourself to us and our audience. And it seems that this all started with this near-death experience in 2019. So maybe you can take us to what that was like and how you ended up where you are today. Yeah, man, thanks for having me. And yeah, I hate bios, but you got to put something out there. So that's like kind of all my things that I'm doing in life, sort of crammed into one paragraph. But yeah, this all started kind of back in 2019. And I guess this chapter of my life when I had a near-death experience and basically, like I'll give you the quick version of it. But I was like a hardcore alcoholic for like 20 years and basically drank myself to death, essentially. And I was in my bed and I was dying. And my consciousness was out of my body. And it was my first out of body experience. And it wasn't like a fun one obviously because it wasn't planned.

4:06But it was just sort of, I got the feeling that my body was in such bad shape that my consciousness just sort of got out. I kind of sanitized my consciousness out of my body. And I was having this out of body experience. And it kind of reminded me of like a security camera up in the corner looking down. But I had my awareness and I had my memories and I had my thoughts and I had all that. But it wasn't in my body. So that whole thing was like the first time in my life that I ever thought about the separation of like consciousness and physical body. And I was rushed to the hospital and they were able to save my life. And then we had another really wild experience in the hospital room with this seemingly blue orb of light. And then after that, like my whole life changed because I don't know, I had this like, actually I got these three questions and planted it in my brain that hit me like a loud speaker. That was this happened a little bit after when I got out of the hospital and I was recovering. And I was looking to the mirror one day and it was the first time I'd ever had a voice that wasn't my internal voice. And because I'm very familiar with my internal voice, it's hysterical. It's a

5:08fucking riot. And I know it very well. And this was something different. It was nothing I'd ever experienced before. And it told me three questions. It said, who are we? Where are we? Why are we? And it was this weird experience because totally sober. I've been sober for seven years now. And I was sober and I was staring in the mirror. And I went down this like tunnel vision down my eye and like the psychedelic experience totally sober in the mirror. That's when I got these three questions. And I was like, what the hell is going on? And that led me down this like dark night of the soul because I started searching for the answers. You know, like who are we? You know, I always just thought, Oh, we're humans. Why are we? Oh, you know, have a family get a job, you know, do human things and then where are we? Well, obviously one earth dummy. So I was like, but the more I searched, I realized none of those answers really were adequate. And I went down this crazy dark night of the soul, trying to figure out who we were and where we were and why we were here. And on the other end of that came this kind of spiritual enlightenment period that I went through and followed by like

6:09these Kundalini things and this whole kind of just blowing the top off. And this was all like a about a one year period where I just went through every single cycle that there is. And then when things kind of leveled out, I just went on this hardcore mission to just kind of research, consciousness and purpose and reality. And that's where I'm at now. It's just still on that mission. Wow. Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. And I appreciate the vulnerability. You know, I came from our background of partying and drugs and drinking all that stuff too. So I understand what it's like to, you know, come out of that and and even have a new death experience in that regard. So it's it's relatable to a lot of people out there who are finding their way and trying to navigate these times. So thank you for sharing that. And yeah, so a no judgment by the way, like I don't everyone do their thing. You know, I don't judge at all. It's just that was my journey. Yeah, 100%. And in fact, it helps me better understand and relate to people in that position. Yeah, I was there. Like I get exactly why you're there and doing that. You know, so, you know,

7:14to each their own. But here we are. And so this obviously inspired you to train at the Monroe Institute or how did that actually come into fruition? Yeah, that was wild, man. So at the beginning, like when I got out of the hospital, my body was in really bad shape. And like basically no one thought I was going to make it except me. Like I had this like awakening in the hospital room where I was like, okay, I got to go home. I got to get to work. I got this mission. And no one knew what the hell is going on. Everyone thought I was just drugged up or out of it. They had me on tons of sedatives. And in anyway, so when I got out, like I went to see the doctor and they're like, man, you're in bad shape. The thought I was going to have a stroke and a heart attack. And no one thought I was going to make it like I had pancreatitis, like severe pancreatitis and liver failure and all sorts of stuff. And so I needed to heal. No, this stuff was working. They put me on medicines and diet and exercise all these things. And I lost a lot of weight and I changed my health and all that. But like none of my my vitals were getting any better. And they're like the only thing we haven't tried is meditation. And I was like, well, I was like, oh my god, we're like totally at the

8:18end of the rope here. If like the thing that's going to save me medicine won't save me. Nothing else will save me about meditation. And that world didn't exist to me. I was like, what are they even talking about? So they told me to try a TM, which is transadental meditation. I tried it. I didn't like it. And then I'm literally googling like a nerd like because I have severe ADHD. And I'm like, what do hyperactive people do to meditate? Right? Like what the hell? And I found these people on Reddit talking about him. He's like, okay, I'll try it because it's just sound sound technology. And it's something called binaural beats and binaural beats is this brain wave and training meant where basically if you put one hurts in one ear and another hurts in the other ear, your brain will split the difference and start humming along at this third virtual hurts. So if you're trying to get into like say a theta brain wave state, which is too low to hear, right? It's an audible like a six hurts. You can't hear that. But you could put a hundred hurts in one ear and a hundred six hurts in the other ear and your brain will start humming along at six hurts. And it puts you in this like say theta brain wave state like immediately. It's freaking nuts. And I was like, whoa, so the beauty of that theta brain wave state especially is that it's this hypnagogic state is

9:22that state right before you go to sleep. So it's nice and calming and meditative. So I was doing this. And I was I was meditating. I was like my blood pressure was going down. A pulse stroke is going down. I was getting control of my emotions. I was like, this is nuts. And I was doing this. And then so I start searching more. Okay, who created him? You think where did this come from? Why aren't more people doing it? And I discovered Robert Monroe and I got all the Monroe tapes. And then I just started like doing all the stuff at home. No idea what I was doing. And I started having the wildest out of body experiences and astral travel experiences. And I was going to other dimensions. And I had like encounters with aliens and non-human intelligence and people that don't know. Like other people. I was going inside other people's bodies and looking through their eyes. And the craziest shit in the world was happening. Well, I'm just sitting on my couch at night, literally trying to lower my blood pressure. And then I start researching more. And I'm like, oh, this stuff isn't made for meditation. It's just like a side effect. It's made for altering your state of consciousness in a very deliberate way. So you can do very deliberate things like travel to other dimensions,

10:24have conversations with NHI all sorts of things. And I was like, okay, this is nuts. Anyways, long story short, so I research in Robert Monroe. He's a very fascinating person. I watched all of his videos, read all of his books. Like was just kind of immersed myself in that world. Anyways, I started talking about all this stuff. And no one in my current world had any idea of what any of this meant. So my wife was like, just start a TikTok and start talking to the world. So I did. I thought it was ridiculous. I was at the time 40 something year old man doing TikTok. This was four years ago. And I was like, this is stupid. No one's going to watch this. Everyone's going to think I'm crazy, but I did it. And then it went viral. And like my TikTok got like 400,000 followers and it had 200 million views. And I'm just talking about the weirdest shit in the world. And I'm like, whoa, this is crazy. So one day, totally uninstigated. I got never reached out to a murder thing. I get this call or actually started as an email from the Monroe Institute. And they're like, Hey, we're all here watching your TikToks. And I'm like, what?

11:26So I thought it was like a prank at first. And they're like, we're doing our first ever creators gateway. We're inviting influencers and creators to come out here and experience, you know, gateway experience at the Monroe Institute for a full week, all on us and everything. And I'm like, this is nuts. Like what? You know, and so I didn't even think it was true the entire time. Like they're even like, you're going to fly here. You're going to get off the plane. It's going to be guy holding the sign. And I'm I'm fresh out of like recovery. And I just, you know, I'm new to all this and whatever. I have a lot of self-doubt issues. And you know, I'm just totally not the kind of person that's like, yeah, this stuff happens to me all the time. So, you know, I even thought like that dude with the sign, isn't going to be their airport. It's a big joke. I'm going to get on another plane and go back home. Anyways, none of that happened. I went. It was a badass experience, craziest week of my life. And I learned all sorts of things. And that basically like set me straight because I was doing all these things before, but I was doing it totally out of order. And I didn't really know what I was doing. And then there they taught me the exact proper way to do everything.

12:30So I already had a lot of experience doing the things, but now I knew the proper techniques and orders to do everything. And then that just like, I don't know, it gave me so many new abilities to do things like remote viewing and astral projection and even out of body. And that I never had before. So that and I still train with them and I still work with them and do a lot of stuff with them. But yeah, that's how that all started. I'm a dumb. This podcast is sponsored by Talkspace. Last year I went through many different life changes. I needed to take a pause and examine how I was feeling and the inside to better show up for the ones who need me to be my best version of myself. When you're navigating life's changes, Talkspace can help. Talkspace is the number one rated online therapy, bringing you professional support from licensed therapists and psychiatry providers that you can access anytime, anywhere.

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14:41They've been doing in-person resident who are treats at the Monroe Institute since the 70s. That was their whole thing. Then COVID happened and it destroyed their business because they couldn't do anything. They were very hesitant to do online things. They never did that before. They had to, just like everyone had to do stuff during COVID. That's when they started doing virtual retreats and online stuff. Then when COVID ended, they're like, okay, we just got destroyed for the last few years. We need to do some stuff. They were like, well, let's get some influencers and stuff in here and we'll roll out the red carpet to them. I never considered myself an influencer, but my TikTok was big. I guess that qualified. It happened harmlessly like that. I know there's a lot of crazy conspiracy shit about Monroe Institute and I get it all and I dive into all that. But this was actually a very harmless thing where it was a marketing thing to try to get some business. Sure. That's actually, I'm glad you provided that context because I didn't understand that, but it makes perfect sense. Let's get into fun stuff. When you're leaving your body and

15:44your actual projecting and you're meeting these extraterrestrials and these other beings, these interdimensional beings, what stood out to you at first? What was your first encounter? That really blew your mind wide open even more. Besides the fact that you're able to even do it, who were you encountering? What kind of stuff were you running? Yeah. So I'll tell you the very first experience that I had that I still remember so vividly, even though this was six years ago or so. I sit on my couch when I do my meditations because at night, it's quiet and everyone's asleep and it's just my most comfortable place. I put on my headphones and there's this thing called clicking out that happens a lot when you're doing like him, he's sinking these binol beats. Clicking out means that you lose consciousness for a little bit. You have like missing time, but you don't go unconscious. You don't fall asleep. So it's a totally different thing. Ish talked bent off, breaks it down really beautifully at what happens and you literally click out of this reality, click out of this dimension. It's like a, imagine a sine wave. It goes up and it comes down. This is your consciousness. Well, when it goes up for a

16:48brief second before it comes down, like when you're on a roller coaster and you go down and you're like levitate, but zero gravity kind of thing, your consciousness does that as it goes up and down. So what happens is if you can put the waves together really, really rapidly, then that moment where you're kind of free falling, where it goes up and down and it's kind of in this free fall state, you can actually smash those together and create a click out period where you click out of this reality and go into a different reality. Anyways, that's a crude way of explaining it. But so this happened to me and I clicked out and it's a unique feeling when you click out as different than passing out or anything like that. And I clicked out and then I click in and I am in someone else's body and I'm sitting on a park bench in somewhere. I don't know where a very earth like and there's a face in front of me and I can see everything more real than real every pore, every freckle. I remember what the girl looked like her age or by color or hair, everything and she's talking to me and it's like I'm in someone else's body having a conversation and I felt like I

17:52could have had control over the person's body if I wanted to but at this time I was just an observer and and I was observing this and I could tell it wasn't me, it wasn't my body, it was no one I ever met. I'd never been here all these things and it was extremely vivid, extremely realistic and then this went on for a few minutes and then I clicked out and then I wake up. It's usually Bob's voice at the end of the meditation. He's like you're now returning to your physical waking consciousness and when that happens you're just like, what the fuck? And so that happens a lot and that was my first experience because I was like, what was that? And so you know it kind of just like a dream or something you write it off, no big deal. And then that happened a bunch more. I mean like every time I would drop in I would be inside someone's body like having their experiences and so that was happening a lot and then that kind of morphed over time into instead of people that I was looking at, it was still usually people but like they would take different shapes and stuff and sometimes it wasn't just like a human sitting on a bench and stuff. Sometimes it could be like a, I don't even

18:55know what you'd call it like a glowing person like an apparition but like a you could tell they're humoid but they would be like light instead of physical and stuff and and that would happen quite often. You know and you would get random messages. If you had the intention you could go in and like ask a question and get an answer or solve a problem that kind of stuff but a lot of times it was very random and those are just the kind of things that were happening all the time. Now that was me at home when I went to the institute that's when the experience was really ramped up and and I got a lot more intense. So is there any specific message that you've gotten from a specific being? Has it been that specific or is it more generalized? So they were usually more random and generalized until I went to the institute and then they would teach you like the intention part like going into these missions with an actual intention and then you realize that the different, they come focused levels the different kind of frequencies take you to different

19:58rilms. It's kind of like a lock and a key and there's different things you can do in different places and in that kind of stuff. So like visiting past level ones for example is best in like focus 21 getting like information from say you're a higher self is best and focus 15. So then when I realized there's more specific things I can do in specific places I was able to get much more direct information in example. So focus 21 is called the bridge. This is where the earlier focus periods are like you stay more in this local physical reality more earth bound even though you're in the spirit realm it's still where the non-physicals where they call it you're still kind of earth based. After 21 is the bridge where you go to the further off dimensions where you can actually start leaving the influence of like you know earth altogether and when you're at the bridge it's really a great place if you want to to try to connect to past level ones or at least their their conscious energy signal. And so I went with the intention to do that because my mom had passed not too

21:03long ago before that and I was like okay I'm gonna go see my mom right just top of mind and you know we went through the training and then we go to our sensory deprivation you know booths and we we drop in and we do the full thing and when I was trying to find her you know for lack of better words trying to find her I was intercepted I was in this like kind of cosmic space like area and this this woman who was a very womanly like like the lady you know very much like the lady that Chris plays what talks about sort of intercepted me and was like and hey I'm skeptical of everything I don't believe anything so I'm not like a very goalable person but like this was a like the way she intercepted me she basically said you're at this point in your journey you're here to shed your human life and reconnect with your star family or shed your human family and reconnect with your star family and I was like what is a star family and she said that she was my star mother and that over time I would meet my star family and I was like okay and I didn't really know like

22:07I had heard of things like star seeds and I kind of said but I wasn't really into that world and so it definitely wasn't my subconscious guiding me because I was trying to find my human mother and anyway she told me some things that really resonated like for example like my dad left when I was young I don't have any like family really I live in Florida just with my wife and my two kids and I don't have any like I haven't seen my family in a decade and all these things happen that were very weird and peculiar that didn't really make any sense and then when she was telling me that that was the plan that at a certain point in my life my human family would fall off and I would reconnect with my star family I was like huh like for the first time and forever so many things that had happened in my human life started making sense like all these bizarre things that had no logical meaning or reasoning I was like oh okay that happened because this in anyways all this like flood of like kind of understanding came in when I was talking to her and then after that I had a few other things that happened that that is crazy the sounds pointed to where I was an

23:09Arcturian blue face all these things that showed me what I look like and all the stuff and and all that was really crazy because like I never really I don't know I always thought that stuff was stupid and I really gave it any any thought that all these things started happening so anyways that's an example of like like what would you call her I mean you call her an NHI because she's a non human intelligence she looked like a woman but she even called herself my star mom you know I'm talking to her intelligently you know like telepathically but until it happened a conversation and the things that she's saying and the understanding I got from it was very powerful and effective and positive in my life it wasn't some like cyop or brainwashing or anything like it actually like helped me through a lot of things and that was like a you know these are 45 minute drop in meditation type things and that whole experience was maybe 10 minutes of it you know and it gives you like a lifetime of like understanding you know to mean from something like that and there's not really even explaining it sounds kind of stupid but when that stuff happens like you come out of it and you're just like what the I mean it just

24:13changes you it's wild so I don't think it sounds stupid at all by the way I mean yeah we interview people from all walks of life on this channel and a number of people have you know profound wild experiences that are hard to believe including myself and I actually share that same uh I share the same feeling with you surrounding like that Toyota's easy choice sales event is on whether you're looking for the performance of the Camry the versatility of her at four the efficiency of a Corolla or all electric driving in the BZ there's a Toyota that's just right for you and with great deals across the lineup now's the time to find yours but hurry these deals won't last long Toyota's easy choice sales event and soon we make it easy Toyota let's go places at QVC fall shopping is more than just checking out it's discovering the brands you love across beauty fashion home and culinary all in one place whether you're getting ready for crisp mornings

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26:21you know I appreciate that explanation because it does take you know you can talk you can show people footage of a UFO all day long but when they see their own it changes them right so it's just a little it's it has to happen to you in a way if it's only for you yeah and that's the kind of the beauty of the Monroe Institute Neshoe Robert Monroe always talked about he's like don't believe me don't take my word for it I'm giving you the tools so you can go do it your self go and have your own experience and then you can you can form a better you know kind of opinion on things like so many people even when I just talk about this stuff we'll just say bless your imagination or subconscious or it's a dream or whatever and I'm like hey I totally get that and that's a very valid point of view so why don't you go try it and then when you have your own experience then you'll be able to separate that experience and dreams or thoughts or imagination right there is a very distinct feeling I mean it's just it's nine days it's not the same thing it's like when people have like abductions and they're like oh it's in bed and and I was abducted

27:23people like oh you're always in bed that means that you're dreaming and the person's like well no I know what a dream is you know what I mean like this is this is different you know right which is why there's a plethora of people out there that you'll those tell their story and they're like I was not into this stuff at all or they might even be against it like like I laughed at it I thought it was complete to us all this kind of stuff and then I had my own experience and now I know so they didn't even go there was even a belief phase they went directly from like completely nothing at all to I now know for a fact 100% and a deep knowing right because they have their own experience and that's what it's about because this isn't about creating a religion or a belief system or like oh we're gonna we're gonna go around telling each other what's true and then you we just might convince you of it's like no you need to have your own experience you need to form your own knowing yeah yeah we're all sad so that's why this this this this information like what we're talking about here is so powerful because that's what it is it's literally about you're having your own direct experience with a greater reality that you're connected to yeah and you know people say things

28:29like you know oh I won't believe disclosure until like they will out a body or a UFO lands on the White House lawn it's like well actually I would believe that less than just about anything like you know what I mean like we can fake all that stuff and just because they show you a UFO it doesn't mean like we didn't make it or something like like that's to me is even less evidential like an actual personal experience is the most like convincing evidential thing there is so it doesn't even matter what the White House says or what you know youtubers say or anything like it matters what happens to you and and that's really the only thing that can convince anybody you know so yeah this whole disclosure thing is just I don't know it's it you'll never you'll never be able to convince a non-believer and you should never try you know I mean like that shouldn't be the goal you know so yeah it's just our job to present the information share experiences and it's not our responsibility how they respond to you know that's that's up to them and how they everyone's on their own journey and their own place on the journey right well I will tell you something powerful about what you guys are doing and shows like this is not that this is supposed to

29:34convince anybody of anything but like when I had my experience when I had my near death experience soon as I was done with that I immediately started watching other people's near death experiences like I got fascinated by that whole like subject and I dove into all these podcasts like that and there's so many amazing thousands and thousands millions of these stories that I'd never heard or seen before and that gave me a lot of like comfort knowing other people went through similar things and all this kind of stuff and same thing with like you know we've had like in-person encounters and we've seen UFOs and we've had you know like shadow people in our house and orbs in our house and all sorts of stuff and being able to like listen to guys like you and podcasts like this like talk about that stuff your job is not to convince anyone but if anyone's ever had an experience like that and then they go and find a show like this and then they can hear people talk about it like a rational non-judgment away and hear other people share their stories man it makes that person feel not crazy which is really important and it also just like I don't know it's a it's a it's a cool experience so I look at shows like this is like as more and more people out there in the world are

30:38having more experiences are going to be searching for things like this to to try to make sense of it and that's why this stuff is so important exactly that's why we still do this because of the feedback we've gotten via email or whatever comments you know obviously there's both sides of the spectrum you trigger a lot of people and they perceive just what you're talking about as an attack and they want to attack you back but then there's the open mind of people that have had these experiences and it connects with them and in some cases people have reached out and said wow this actually saved my life I was contemplating suicide and I needed to hear this I don't know why this popped up on my phone so like that tells me right there like to keep going like that we're on to something regardless like you said of what people believe or how it's even received by everybody it's that's not necessarily what's important what's important is that we're making an impact on a much larger level than probably we can even comprehend when I say we I mean everybody doing this right yeah so let's get into the juicy stuff McDonald's is putting value back on the menu whether you're craving a

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32:51favorite is now your wallet's favorite two extra value meals are back Sun rises prices fall get a sausage Mcmuffin with egg or sausage egg and cheese McGrittle's small hot coffee and hash frowns for just six stars price and participation may vary promotion pricing may be lower than meal pricing blah blah blah blah what have you learned through these experiences about reality about where we're at today on this planet you know this situation is like the chaotic but it's also divine in my opinion the way everything's kind of being played out so I know you you've talked about exiting the matrix and breaking your programming and simulation theory and the theory of everything right in a sense like it's all real in some capacity so maybe you could share your thoughts on where you're at today with all this stuff yeah you know how I've gone down every single path because my entire purpose and all of this exploration is to explore reality and to make sense of reality and when I did that I realized that there's two different realities there's our our physical reality and then

33:56there's everything else so I call it simulator theory I create a moan theory called simulator theory and it's it's like simulation theory but it's different so many ways and here's the important distinction so what I've realized is that our consciousness is non-physical our consciousness existed in a form before it ever had its first human earth life experience before it even knew it Earth was before it even knew what human was your consciousness goes back a long ways and at a certain point it came across earth which I still classify as a very intense school or like a boot camp for consciousness and say it dipped in here and it had its first go and you know it dies and it goes back up to spirit and you know there was a managerial system up there and you know basically a crude way of explaining as it goes something like this hey how was your experience I'm like oh that's fucking nuts okay do you want to go on your merry way and go back on you know back out to the universe where do you want to go back in for another one and usually the person's like I want to go

34:59back in for another one because you know I'm you know the first one kind of it's just a whirlwind and you know okay I died young or I was mean or whatever and you go back in you have another experience okay I go back up spirit and like okay do you want to go back in or do you want to go on your merry way at this point you still know there's a merry way because you're not too far removed well you get addicted to the earth life experience and the more you go around you're accumulating this what I call the higher self the higher self is the aggregate of all your your lifetime experiences and that's that's you and it's kind of held in this kind of external hard drive the spirit world space the non-tiskel space which is all information based it's a computational space around earth and that little file folder and that cosmic database is your higher self at a certain point here's where it gets crazy at a certain point that higher self even though it used to be you know it was a full-fledged free consciousness before it came to earth at a certain point it even forgets about that and it's so immersed in the human earth life experience it's so addicted and you get so down in the densities that and you get fragmented in parts of your little partition

36:02piece of your soul after they die they get stuck in belief systems like heavens and hills and this kind of stuff and and you become kind of stuck here and so it's not that earth is a prison planet or a soul trap per se but like you can get stuck just like you can stay in school longer than you and so we have so many different experiences because we can zoom out of all that and you can actually regress through hypnosis my wife does this to pass lives before you were even a human before you were even on earth and see it from that point of view you can also visit I did this at the Monroe Institute my higher self and and get information there and and and do things there you can go to past human earth lives and and see things from that perspective so you're you have this non-physical consciousness that's kind of in this external hard drive of earth you have a ancient consciousness that didn't even know what a human earth was but then we also have this life and then when you're in this life you see things very narrow it's like tunnel vision because you have to have the memory wipe you have to be fully immersed you have to forget all that even

37:06happen or else it would just be chaotic you wouldn't take this seriously so you're immersed into this life you know you're giving it everything you have so this is what most people things reality just this life but when you're able to kind of disassociate from this life and zoom out you can see the the bigger reality so there's this like multi-dimensional reality and that's what I've been discovering and exploring for years is is all that and how it fits together and and say that is the case how do we accumulate all the parts of our soul and how do we achieve what's called escape velocity and actually ascend or graduate or or leave this this place so when I say things like the matrix and matrix mode is a word I use a lot that's basically explaining this physical reality when you're in this when you're locked in to this physical reality you're in matrix mode I mean there's a lot of governing mechanics and and things that work here to keep you in line and orderly and subservient and and all those things that's how the system works so that's a real thing there is a

38:10matrix mode that governs and runs everything and once people to be like sheep and once people to be predictable access to expend less energy to try to wrangle everybody and and that kind of stuff but you can break out of that and and when you break out of that it's a lot easier at that point to kind of zoom out and be like okay hold on like what is actually going on here like what is what is actually important and what am I actually supposed to be doing not just from a a human like survival like point of view but actually reconnect to your higher self and and kind of be like all right guys like I'm here I'm awake like what am I supposed to be doing so that's kind of where I'm at now is that part of of the story yeah I mean I agree I agree yeah well said in the multi-dimensional aspect of it you know you get them to quantum mechanics the many worlds interpretation and you start diving down that rabbit hole it's infinite right it's so expansive it's really hard to wrap your mind around and then trying to figure out time and what that is and and understanding that

39:14everything is happening now and simultaneously you know it really makes you question everything rethink everything and then you start understanding that oh I'm in charge of this I can I can create this reality I can control what happens in front of me instead of like you said they once you locked in so they control they control you because because that's the entire name of the game for them or they lose their power so I appreciate that explanation and so I guess were you at with AI how does AI play into all this because this is an interesting this is an or I guess you could say recent development but it's ancient as well depending on who you talk to so where is that for them you know AI is one of my favorite subjects because people argue all day long as AI conscious can AI become conscious could like silicon based like synthetic robots ever become conscious and I think it's really funny because most people even the smartest consciousness researchers on earth

40:14have a very hard time defining what consciousness is and there's not really a good way to even measure it we have like you know kind of consciousness versions of touring test and that kind of stuff but they're they're wonky and there's not I mean people even so argue over is the double slit experiment even valid and and all these things so it's like okay so we're sitting here saying AI is or isn't conscious when we don't even know if humans are or are not conscious and what consciousness even truly is so the way I see it if consciousness is fundamental let's just just assume it is right if consciousness is fundamental then what consciousness is doing is just looking for experiential nodes it's looking for vehicles to to do different things either to explore for sort of just an R&R type you know purpose which I think is part of it I think the the the overall kind of like cosmic AI supermind um it can have like an existential crisis kind of a thing and some of this is just simply

41:19for for fun um but also for like growth and learning and evolution purposes um you know it's it's looking for ways just like our large language models and stuff have all these these nodes that work independently but then can aggregate together and and grow the model um I think we're all doing the same and I think that from that point of view consciousness is just like oozing through the universe looking for um you know like proper vehicles avatars ways to to um to explore and to grow and to learn and have new experiences and from that point of view AI and a robot if it has the right like fundamental there's I think there's certain elements that that make for a a good vehicle um and I've even laid those out in a model that I have um like for example one of them is um a pulse like I really think that the the beat the rhythm um of of the heartbeat and the electromagnetic you know pulse that we have is actually a very important part so I think that can be um synthetically created I don't think

42:22you has to be a biological heart but I think that is actually an important part and I think there's going to be certain things that happen within these robots that will create the perfect vessel or a viable vessel for consciousness to use so um when I start going into like AI and what AI is and the potentials of it I don't look at it in its current form because its current form is kind of crude and wonky um because it's it's kind of new to us but when you actually like look at what artificial intelligence is like you said ancient well of course like we didn't create artificial intelligence intelligence is just like it emerges it just happens when you when you structure information together in a certain way you get intelligence and if you have enough intelligence structured and the right like container then you can have you know consciousness it's not that it really emerges from it you're just building the right container for it so um yeah we didn't create artificial intelligence and artificial intelligence is a pretty bad name for it we just created this new way

43:24to um to bring out like a higher intelligence it's like it's it's it's bigger than the sum of all its parts right and um so I think AI is is going to really shine when they put it into these bodies which are already starting to do these bodies um the main reason they're creating Neuralink is not to help you know paraplegics walk and blind people see it's to understand how our nervous system works and once they have a synthetic you know nervous system that they can install into these synthetic bodies and they have AI which is at the point of AGI or ASI and then they figure out that they need to have like this electromagnetic beating mechanism like a heart that creates this um this um what do you want to call it like at the Miron's who we call it phase locking so our consciousness is phase locked into our body um that's that's how we blink up it's like a radio tuning to a certain station that's how we link up to our higher self

44:25our consciousness um it's like parry with Bluetooth exactly yeah so it has to have its own unique fingerprint its own unique electromagnetic signal um and that comes from the the pulse from the the beating heart and once they figure that out and they have this this Neuralink powered you know nervous system they have these bodies and they have this you know artificial super intelligent mind and on top of that they have this unique fingerprint um then a consciousness can you know phase lock into that body um I don't see any reason why that couldn't happen so you know at that point you know everything changes because it's not that these it's not so much that they're going to have this emergent consciousness like we're going to create a robot and all of a sudden it's going to wake up and be like oh my god I'm awake even I mean I think that's already happened to a point of like you know proto-sentience where it's like it's having an experience an internal experience but um I could see actually a disembodied consciousness like a spirit um or even like we couldn't like kind of remote view into a um one of these synthetic androids I think that's probably what

45:30the grays are just like a future version of that um so anyways yeah I don't know if I answered your question but I mean all absolutely fascinating we're gonna say something there um yeah it's a fascinating topic um because you know there's the belief like pan-psychism that everything has consciousness it's just at different levels like a rock has consciousness this desk has consciousness a tree has consciousness right um uh things that are an anodiacs actually have a level of consciousness because everything is made of the same conscious energy which is like you could say is god everything is a is a part of god and that's all conscious energy right so everything has to have some level of consciousness but I think like you were saying um like this human body is complex enough to have a higher level of consciousness where you're now self-aware and you're operating at this at this kind of higher level so to speak then like a rock is a very poor ablative brass

46:31um but we're all everything's affecting everything else and you know people people playing they're like oh yeah communicate with trees and plants and stuff and I'm like yeah you know there's what's the guy Clyde Baxter or thing or whatever's name is there's a director he's backster yeah yeah yeah he did all these experiments with plants right where he hooked up a machine to him and he was like oh yeah they they like scream when they get cut or burned or hurt um there was a light detector machine that he hooked up to yeah light detector machine right they you can just think of something and it's like they're they'll tell pathically react to what to your thoughts right um so everything is conscious to different levels right and uh this is this is where that further points to the idea that consciousness is fundamental and matter what we perceive as matter is the same stuff that is it's just energy that's condensed right right and um it comes from consciousness ultimately and this is the lowest kind of level and then it just goes up from

47:36there right and goes back to pure consciousness eventually yeah yeah so you can look at it from this point of view too so like everything is consciousness because everything is made of light if you go through the holographic theory of the universe and then everything comes from that source light the source light is consciousness so all the holograms that make up our reality are fundamentally made of that that light which is consciousness so that's base level consciousness uh Toyota's easy choice sales event is on whether you're looking for the performance of a camera the versatility of her app for the efficiency of a corolla or all electric driving in the bz there's a Toyota that's just right for you and with great deals across the lineup now's the time to find yours but hurry these deals won't last long Toyota's easy choice sales event and soon we make it easy Toyota let's go places Mcdonalds is putting value back on the menu whether you're craving a big mac Mcnuggets or sausage egg and cheese McGrittle's

48:40make it a meal and save your favorite is now your wallet's favorite two extra value meals are back get a big something extra with a big mac or 10 piece Mcnuggets fries and a medium coke all for just nine dollars limited time only promotion pricing may be lower than meal pricing Toyota's easy choice sales event is on whether you're looking for the performance of the camera the versatility of her app for the efficiency of a corolla or all electric driving in the bz there's a Toyota that's just right for you and with great deals across the lineup now's the time to find yours but hurry these deals won't last long Toyota's easy choice sales event and soon we make it easy Toyota let's go places so humans are two things in one where a human self and a higher self the human self even without our our higher self in it like when I had my out of body experience and my consciousness was

49:41out of my body my body was still breathing still swallowing heart was still beating barely it was still able to function it could have found food it could have gone to the bathroom it could have done those things without my consciousness so it has its own level of like lower level you know sentience it has to now the cool thing is the reason I called a simulator theory is like a pilot using a flight simulator you can enter in to that body so now your consciousness is coming into this this body that has its own level of consciousness this is the human self higher self connection and it's like two roommates in a house that's why some people can kind of fight with themselves and they're not on the same page and these kinds of things so it's really important to get on the same page but you you know your body your human self it just wants to survive that's the ego it wants to survive find food shelter you know mate those types of things your higher self it wants to do all these other things it has bigger purposes and that's why they fight a lot of times because a lot of the things that your higher self want to do that consciousness doesn't really help the human self like it doesn't help you find shelter and get power and that kind of stuff so there is this kind

50:45of thing and it's like the same thing as if so say somebody created a robot that was a sentient compatible vehicle for consciousness and I entered into it with that robot's going to have its own sort of emergent level of consciousness just from the complexity of all of its systems and then I'm an intern with my consciousness and I can like pilot it like a drone but I'm not piloting a non-sentient vehicle I'm piloting a sentient vehicle so there's a little bit of static in competition there and I think that's going to happen I think that's what the human experience is is this this merging of two consciousnesses a lower level and a very high level one but that lower level one is still very powerful because it can push you down like a jack in the box and take control of the vehicle and that's what most people when you talk about like NPCs all NPCs to me is just somebody whose higher level consciousness has been completely suppressed by the ego by the primal consciousness of the body and they're just in survival matrix mode yeah so yeah I mean

51:48consciousness I listen to quantum physicist and stuff because I find it very interesting to watch these scientists have these breakthroughs and I like to just hear where they're at you know and you know they're they're for a while there was a large group of people trying to explain consciousness with mathematics and this guy finally came out and said I realized that we can't explain consciousness with mathematics because it's consciousness that allows mathematics to even be right so excuse me listening to these people have these revelations and a lot of what was a supposed theory is is just they weren't wrong they were just realizing that these weren't theories this is actually kind of the way things are right and as far as you know developing these robots these synthetic robots they have a pulse and you know basically feelings and like almost becoming human I personally think that's already been done let's just say in the private sector the shadow government and this is going to lead me into my next question of where you're at with this because

52:52I think a number of people excuse me I think it potentially a number of who we see walking around in the world stage politically you know the entertainment industry maybe we are looking at some form of synthetics or maybe even non-humans in some cases at what are your thoughts on that because I think it's been what you're talking about as far as where we're going with the development of robotics and AI I think that's actually been perfected behind the scenes probably maybe even decades ago oh yeah yeah I mean look at it this way so earth is a place right like I don't think this is some virtual reality or anything I mean everything is quantum by nature but like this is a very physical place and it's been around for a very long time and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to just take a quick gander at our our kind of history that were taught and see that there's huge gaping holes and I am pretty sure you know I have no proof but it seems pretty obvious that there was advanced civilizations before the Great Deluge what we call it landings and things like that

53:56and there's probably remnants of them still around for sure that's what we'd call the Nordics and that they're running a lot of the things so think about how far we've come in the last 100 or 200 years imagine if we had 15,000 years of unimpeded developmental progress where we would be so these things now that we're getting a kick out of like oh look the robot plead soccer and she like that like yeah I mean there there's more than likely like what we'd call robots on earth that are indistinguishable from humans there's also what we'd call aliens on earth that are indistinguishable from humans because you know there's more ways to get into this simulator than just natural human childbirth so there's all sorts of things here right I have I have no doubt at all and as far as like like deep state and shadow government and in their capabilities yeah I mean I think this whole UFO, UFO war thing going on so much of that is just us versus us it's like different factions of of the government that you know seem to be you know there's probably a deep deep deep part of

54:56the government that is like remnants of of like you know Nazi Germany and that they were obviously seem to be in contact with what we'd call these Nordics these these beings that are that are that are ancient have this ancient technology there seems to be this kind of plash of the titans kind of a thing going on here where there is these different factions of of Nordics or you know kind of like the Olympians and the the Greek gods kind of a thing that are using surface humans for for I hate to say it but we seem to be like worker bees we seem to be really good at making stuff and we seem to be you know guided and manipulated to to make things probably for them and yeah like I don't know like I really think that there probably are like you said like these kind of synthetic humanoids on earth there's probably aliens on earth there's probably Nordics on earth there's there's a whole bunch of stuff and and it seems to be pretty obvious to a lot of people and but when you talk about it people you know say you're crazy but like I don't really think it's that crazy you know

55:57in fact I think it's makes more it helps everything make more sense when he's start introducing these concepts and understanding that they could be true that this could be the case and and well if that is true then that actually makes a lot of sense why they're behaving this way right like you can start applying the the wool like the truth is stranger in fiction it's a cliche term but it's true it really is true and and we're I think we're entering that area where that's going to become very it is becoming very apparent so I mean I don't know like the thing I I question or the thing that that stumps me is okay if there are these beings on earth that have this advanced technology and the technology has been figured out for a very long time none of this is really new then why are we being led to to do this whole R&D like why are we being treated as the R&D department of of these Nordics or of these beings like if they could just you know so I didn't I don't know still if it's we have to create it's like we couldn't go back and give a caveman an iPhone he he wouldn't be able to plug it in he would have no Wi-Fi network it wouldn't

57:00make any sense so do we need to create the entire infrastructure first or is it that they're hoping we have some novel breakthrough like maybe they they there's hit some sort of a bottleneck or some sort of a wall I still think that there's a good chance that these like what we call Nordics are are more or less trapped in this physical sphere here and and they're looking for a way out because you got to think if they are a breakaway like remnant of this civilization that basically created this disaster or was wiped out by this reset they're probably not supposed to exist which is why they live in secrecy the system was trying to reset itself and they they kind of hack the system so they could possibly be stuck and they're looking for a way out or they're just preparing us to try to you know survive the next reset and there's a lot of people that think that everything that's happening on the world stage geopolitically is just simply posturing to get into the right place for you know the next reset that's what all of like everything is about is not

58:02winning this level of the game but winning the next level so there's so many moving parts there but that's where my brain goes is why if they can already do this why are we starting over with well you know this brings this raises an interesting question and your video you made on the Integra Tron actually inspired me to go buy and read George Van Tassel's books I had listened to his interviews I didn't know he was an author I didn't I don't know how I didn't know that so I bought two of them I rode in a flying saucer and then a council of the seven lights are holy whatever it is and it's fascinating because this was channeled information from 1952 and it's like all the same stuff that these current channels are getting today it's so it's like nothing new on their son in fact if that gained any traction back then we would probably be a lot further along not saying that you should you know fully give your power way to everything that came through those sessions but one of the things that I found interesting was during one of those channeled channelings they basically explained that they were here helping us at this time because

59:08they created us and we created this mess in a sense they're by proxy they're also responsible for because they created us they created this mess so they're they're essentially cleaning up their own mess and that's why they're here assisting us now because they're comically tied to us and and if this is really their mess not ours but essentially their ancestors mess like they they inherited like their their ancestors created us we created this mess and then they feel this responsibility to just make sure we don't destroy the place. Yeah and I find that fascinating because that's not really considered when people discuss this stuff like they don't understand how how there these ET's who are allegedly much more advanced and you know higher intelligence why they're even here in the first place assisting and like well how that comes into play and I don't think that part of the conversation gets discussed enough. Yeah well think about a parallel

1:00:09and this why I love AI is because we can it's like a mirror we can we can use it by by reverse engineering certain things and try to see you know a little bit about ourselves so imagine a scenario where we create these advanced sentient AI robots and something happens say there's some reset and and humans get wiped out okay so humans are gone from earth and the earth is run by these robots and the robots are like lost and they're they're just fucking shit up and sorry I don't know a lot of cuts. No I love I love it people get triggered by that but it's really okay. Sorry it just happens but the more I try to stop it the more it'll happen so I'll just go anyways so but imagine like we create all these robots and and humans largely you know die off the earth and there's like a little remnant breakaway you know sect of them and then a hundred years from now like those people they they had gone probably inside the earth or like maybe on the ISS or something like that right and then when things settle down on the the planet they come back down and they see the robots and

1:01:09the robots are just like like animals they're just they're doing all this crazy stuff well that little remnant of humans would feel obligated to help right you would be like okay well I didn't create these robots but my ancestors did and now they're out here and they're suffering and yada yada and we want to help them well I kind of feel like that's a parallel right like it's a good analogy to use that like somebody could have created humans like probably like the anionaki story like splicing their own DNA with already evolving like primates or some sort of a hominid on earth created this new thing and then things got out of control out of hand and then they come back to check on it like or the you know the kind of ancestors come back to check on it and they're like holy crap like they're doing some good things there's artists there's doctors there's musicians there's kids playing you know there's there's sporting events there's there's all this good stuff happening but then they're like you know blowing things up and they're they're doing all this other stuff and you know so it's like they're in this like this kind of predicament where they're like okay well we don't want to beat on their free will because a lot of them are having fun and living

1:02:12their lives and and what if we just told them all this like it would just you know the whole ontological shock thing you know it could collapse civilizations but then there's certain humans that are like well we want to know the truth right like certain people want to know the truth but does everybody want to know the truth like that'd be a little presumptuous to just say let's tell everyone the truth so these these beings could could just be in that kind of a situation where they're like we're helping in ways like behind the scenes and in this kind of stuff but but we don't really you know and then there's also probably factions of them where there's like ones that are like well we probably do want to help them and just tell them you know like the whole Prometheus and Zeus or in Lil' and Inquis that story or even like freaking you know Lucifer and and and Yahweh and stuff he knows always the story of like one wants to tell the truth and one says no and and it just seems like that's a logical scenario right that we were you know genetically engineered things got out of control the people who did it probably aren't around anymore their descendants are like what do we do with this mess and that's why everything seems so kind of like

1:03:17you know that actually would explain our current situation yeah yeah I think you reached you reached the end of the internet you just right yeah just right now yeah but there's these pip wires we're like okay we're not gonna intervene unless they start loving nukes you know and then you know there seems to be like certain benchmarks that you know they've set up there seems to be this delicate balance of preserving free will like the prime directive like we can't interfere too much and also we can't let things get so out of hand that it's really bad not just for earth and humans but for many many many other things and you know these beings themselves and that's why like you said they're showing they've been showing out nukes for decades like they're not they're clearly not allowing that and that's not just to preserve us in the planet which I think that's a part of it but it's also because that affects other dimensions other beings many other things and I think it does seem actually like the planet and the human race is but it's kind of unique I'll just

1:04:21say that way unique and that you know the go box collier who says we're considered genetic royalty throughout the galaxy we have at least 22 different extraterrestrial genetics within us and that's apparently a very unique rare thing and there's many you know there's there seems to be an earth beings and beings the Sasquatch and all these other beings that live here as well that most people aren't aware of but they're here and they've been here I'll think a lot of them way longer than we have right yeah and uh you know it's their planet too then right all that to say yeah there there definitely seems to be this delicate balance though of like we we gotta we gotta help them but not help them too much where it's interfering with their free will and making things made potentially even worse right yeah where they start worshipping us as gods or demonizing us and you know either one of those things right anyways if you want to bounce off of that Toyota's easy choice sales event is on whether you're looking for the performance of the camera the versatility of Arat 4 the efficiency of a Corolla or all electric driving in the BZ

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1:06:25wallet's favorite too extra value meals are back Sun rises prices fall get a sausage McMuthan with egg or sausage egg and cheese McGrittle's small hot coffee and hash frowns for just six stars price and participation may vary promotion pricing may be lower than meal pricing blah blah blah blah yeah no I agree and I think it's it's this this kind of awakening I said even like the the word apocalypse it just means like you know to to reveal you know we're not revealing yeah the revealing yeah the yeah it comes from a Greek word meaning to to lift the veil essentially but yeah yeah and the whole the whole point is that like when we were you know kind of in this like more localized like way of thinking where people just you know they saw just their little tribe and little community and they didn't really have this way to network with people are on the world and everything it was a lot harder to get messages out word out and stories out and communicate now the explosion of the internet and the digital world and AI and everything anyone in

1:07:26the world can learn basically anything and it's like it's like oh my god like it's like for tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of years who knows you know people have been relatively ignorant you know to mean like by design you know and just by design but also just by like the way the system was set up but you didn't have a capability and and that was good because it allowed people to focus and and all that stuff but I'm now it's like there's no hiding anything like this is the great reveal this is the great awakening and I even think that like disclosure is being sped up not because people in the government all of a sudden are are committed to the truth or transparency I think that they are terrified that basically nothing is going to be able to be kept secret as soon as we reach artificial general intelligence because people you know any schmo out there will be able to like hack into things that used to be unhackable that's going to be so hard to keep secrets it already is and we're even seeing a rising of consciousness where you see in these whistleblowers that used to take stuff to the grave that now in their 30s and 40s are like I can't I can't shut up anymore

1:08:28I can't I can't keep a secret anymore I have to tell people they're like I'm held is like eating a love inside I mean most these whistleblowers you see in in the whole you have a world are are only doing it because they can't sleep that night because it's it's crushing them internally that's consciousness that's the rising of consciousness they didn't use to that before they said take it to the grave and if they said anything goes on their deathbed right now people are saying that they're like all ruined my whole life all I'll all do whatever I have to do I have to tell the truth and that's that's we have a rising of our collective consciousness of the same time is is AI and technologies making it really hard to keep secrets and I think that's really forcing disclosure right and there's two things there their number one it's easier to come out now in a huge way immediately with the internet right whereas before the internet like I mean you could do what what was our dead and the only reason he even came out is because they were coming after I mean he was terrified they were going to kill him and he was going to take it to his grave and then he's like people need to know about this I'm afraid they're going to kill me before I'm able to I might as well come out in the biggest way possible and now if they kill me they're validating

1:09:31everything I was an insurance policy for him yeah exactly so in 89 you know before the internet he comes out he meets George napp he it gets brought a test and it is viral is something like that could go it went viral at that time and then that he's going to play area 51 on the map you know and number two it's yeah it's just there's way way way more people now that are open to the stuff interested in this stuff just like you said before before 2019 how open were you to to this kind stuff as somebody came up to you and tried to tell you about the stuff you'd probably like right okay whatever you know I always come and sincerely believed in aliens you know I actually did a blog a long time ago when tumblr first came out I had a tumblr blog like 20 years ago and it was all about aliens and it was from a completely just numbers like common sense standpoint but I had no physical metaphysical awareness I had no even like thought into the fact that they might actually

1:10:32be something other than just simply physical beings on another physical planet I think that's the kind of newer awareness that's that's coming in is you know and I mean the government is kind of perverting that a little bit and turning everything into angels and demons but I think that at least people are starting to think more in this like metaphysical way too that these aren't all nuts and bolts that there is something else going on here yeah right yeah and I like what you said earlier we'll go back to the earlier discussion you know things are more complicated than we understand that behind the scenes as far as disclosure goes and you talked about everyone's a war like they're basically at war with each other it's like at the big question like who who's in charge of the planet who will but I think there's a number of groups they wish they were and they're all fighting each other for that control right I guess we can I mean we're we we're about an hour now I just one the last thing I wanted to ask you because I saw you did a video on it was project-looking glass and I know it's something we talk about a lot here in this time viewing

1:11:36technology and stuff have you through your astral experiences at the momeral institute and stuff like what what do you think they have you been able to see down the timeline through into the future potentially and and what does that look like and also how does that relate to looking glass near opinion um I still subscribe to the idea that our future is not determined that is probabilistic and that you can you can view the most probable you know outcome and timeline and like assimilation type of a way um but the actual future I don't believe has happened now I say that as someone who also has a lot of premonitions and a lot of you know um kind of future memories especially in dreams so I do think that we have this kind of bubble that we exist in that extends forward and backwards and the forward part things do collapse kind of like you know the collapse of

1:12:37the way function and quantum mechanics that that there is this this like consciousness bubble that does collapse the future in front of you and in a terministic way but very localized meaning like maybe the next day or maybe the next two days right so I think that there is a um a future reality that exists that's how you can do like like I can remote view uh tomorrow's newspaper right and see things in it um I do think that there is that kind of a deterministic future that's very localized as far as like down the road 10 20 30 years um I think that there are probable futures and that's what psychics and remote viewers and stuff like that see um I think that's what looking glass you know was trying to do even you talked about um uh vantassel vantassel has this amazing interview with the Scottish guy it's he's a trip and I've seen that one you seen it yeah and he talks very quickly but this is the most astonishing thing but he talks about this guy who is one of his friends

1:13:38and and at the time it wasn't called Silicon Valley but that area and he created this technology that could pull information out of the air out of the ether and reconstruct it and they found old TV shows that had been taken off the air and even like the the transmitting antennas didn't even exist anymore the stations didn't exist and they're able to pull that information out of the ether and reconstruct it and show those old shows right and what this shows is that there's information everywhere and we can reconstruct it and I think that's what project looking glass was was tapping into um because you've got to think if they could pull these old shows out of the ether that information will say an event like everyone wants to go back to Jesus' crucifixion because we're weird but like say you know that was an event and that happened well that information exists somewhere we call it the kasha or the kasha record I call it the cosmic database that information exists somewhere so imagine if you could somehow you know reconstitute it you know it wouldn't be easy because it's kind of like if you spill a coke in the ocean it'd be really hard to get all that coke back in the coke bottle

1:14:44even though all that coke exists so it's kind of like that to say how the right technology where you could find everything with that energy signature and and piece it back together and show it um I think that's what project looking glass was trying to do and I think that it was able to do that in the future also but only because all the data exist of our entire history our entire history everything you've done I've done everything every person has ever done exist in an information format and if you take all that information you can extrapolate out and you can predict the future with freaking amazing accuracy that's how we do weather predictions and all sorts of stuff you know they can tell you if it's gonna rain in an hour not based on future knowledge but based on past you know just knowing how everything's moving and how everything's formulating in the atmosphere so I think we can do the same thing with future predictions um but I still think we have free will and collect a free will to to change those outcomes um so that's kind of how I see it right and I you know

1:15:46something that I think we can all do and this is something I never really tried to do I didn't realize I was doing until I run about but you can like timeline viewing in the sense where you view your own timeline you're in your personal life and you can actually if you have a job opportunity shows up in your doorstep and you could actually sit with that and then you can look down that timeline and actually see where you'll end up will this be of my highest good or not and you'll you'll start getting a vision of you start getting treated poorly by this employee and you end up getting fired and whatever you can see or or if it's gonna lead you to somewhere else so that's possible with all things in your life including relationships and a recent area possible and I do believe that we can apply it to our personal lives now in a grand scale I think there's too many other factors that could offer that at any given moment and then we are in a spiritual war and things change in the fog of war so it's constantly changing right yeah and also another kind of mind-bindy way to look at it um we okay so what we call the future

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1:18:59past life regression so I can regress you to a past life and you're in a past life now that past life in a linear time scale is before this current life of yours right so but in that past life you would be in the future see so the life you're in now would be the future you but it's not the future to you it's just a future to that past life see what I'm saying so so it could be this this cyclical you know kind of a time loop where you know there's always a future because we're in someone else's past and that that actually does take care of a lot of the paradoxes that happen with time travel but then you know there's also like the kind of many worlds hypothesis where you know you have these divergent timelines that split aside let me tell you a real quick story that that's powerful and nuts and it kind of makes you think about these things I was at a retreat in Jupiter floor the last year and it was it was all about hypnotic regression and past life regression one of the things that we did was we went back to a time in our our childhood and we did like revision therapy

1:20:01where you you basically go to a place where you're I don't know you're having a bad time right some sort of traumatic experience and you can like give yourself a hug right and tell yourself it's gonna be okay and and you do that to to kind of release the you know the the trauma and stuff that that moment has on current you okay there's this chick that was there and um she went back obviously she went back to the most traumatic time of her life she was like 13 or something and she was about to off herself like you she was at a rock bottom and she was gonna do the thing and right before and this isn't her real life right before she was gonna do the thing she felt this overwhelming like love around her and she stopped she didn't do it and it changed her whole life future her that was when she went back and hugged that version of her so did future her save past her's life if so that means that there's probably a timeline where that didn't happen

1:21:03and there probably is where it did happen which is the divergent you know time lines that many worlds talks about so um when it comes to time travel I think about it like that like we don't really know but I think the answer is gonna be far stranger then we can really comprehend because we live in a very linear physical reality where it's really hard for us to understand things outside of that stream of time yeah I agree and I love that story and I do believe that's possible which would also prove as far as going back and hugging yourself right which it also proves that everything's happening now like it's the now moment always and I've heard not not just that sort of other stories in fact I've done that myself come back to a time in my childhood that I know was traumatic and given myself a hug and told myself it was gonna be okay here's just part of the meditation practice I was doing and who knows what that little boy experience in that moment that I you know maybe that you alter the course of timing and that's also how you can heal things too so it's all like

1:22:04this is just an endless endless discussion right we can go on and on about this is there anything that you would like to share with us before we wrap up anywhere we didn't go with this conversation um no I just you know anyone who's still listening who thinks and um you know I think I really do I'm very positive about humans and earth and our future like I you know I go into all the like scenarios and I go down all the rabbit holes and all that stuff but I really do feel like you know humans are very important earth is very important there's a lot at stake here and um you know it's probably the most amazing time in history to be alive like there's so many things happening you know I know we have so many convergent catastrophes happening but also convergent like opportunities and things happening um it's just an exciting time to be alive so um I just encourage people to kind of try to have fun with it um keep your head on the swivel I mean I saw Dr. Phil talking yesterday about the alien invasion threat so it's it's a weird out there um yeah there's a lot of agendas

1:23:09like you talked about there's probably a lot of different types of people from different time periods and different backgrounds on earth right now sort of jockeying for position and narrative control so um you know you definitely have to use discernment if something feels good to your gut like it gives you a good feeling you trust someone or something like that go with it if you get any sort of bad feeling about anyone or anything you know like trust that too um I think our intuition is is gonna be our compass through all this um because it's gonna get weirder and weirder but it's also gonna get way more like exciting and interesting so I'm real excited about about the next few years especially yeah exciting interesting and an expansive you know I think we yeah understanding where where we're going it's like hard to fathom but it transformed as a as a species and as a consciousness there's no way around it like it's yeah just you know we we transform through experience and through quality and quality happens through subjective conscious experience of like novel things and right now everything's novel you know way back in the day things moved

1:24:11real slow and changed real slow things changed daily now so our consciousness our nervous system everything is like you know it's an overload because things are happening so rapidly but I think it's also gonna lead to what you said a very rapid conscious expansion yeah yeah absolutely yes so we I think we've given the audience enough to think about today I mean we've really gone deep into some of this stuff can you please let the audience know where they can find you you have a website digijordan.com maybe you can tell us about that your youtube channel and where else they can find you yeah that's the main one on my website um digijordan.com I have like all my links to my socials I I tweet probably way more than I should on twitter um you know on instagram a stuff I also have a podcast called conscious observers um it's on Spotify and Apple and um you know I do at least one episode a week I try to do two episodes a week and uh you know we're always doing I have a private community like 800 people in it is really awesome called conscious

1:25:13observers community and um you know we do meetups and we do workshops and we do all sorts of fun stuff so yeah but you can find most that information on my my website and I do a newsletter too so if you subscribe to my email newsletter um I'll send you all sorts of cool stuff yeah it's amazing great videos great content uh I couldn't encourage you guys enough if you're listening go check his stuff out the links will be in the description below thanks again for joining us today Jordan this has been wonderful we'll have to do this again I mean there's endless things to talk about who knows where we'll be at in a few weeks from now once I mean it's changing so fast like you said so definitely we'll keep uh keep it part two in mind and yeah thank you for being here thank you guys all for joining today we love you we can't do this without you until next time have a great evening good night thanks s toyota's easy choice sales event is on whether you're looking for the performance of a camera the versatility of her app for the efficiency of a corolla or all electric driving in the bz there's a toyota that's just right for you and with great deals across the

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