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Hey, it's Kelly Rowland. You may not know this, but I have Exema. So I get how it can steal your time. But why let Exema take over when you can talk to your doctor about Epglyce? Epglyce, lubricism app LBKZ, a 250-mg per 2-mg leador injection, is a prescription medicine used to treat adults and children 12 years of age and older, who weigh at least 88 pounds or 40 kg with moderate to severe Exema. Also called a topic dermatitis that is not well controlled with prescription therapies used on the skin, or topicals, or who cannot use topical therapies. Epglyce can be used with or without topical corticosteroids. Don't use if you are allergic to Epglyce. A allergic reaction can occur that can be severe. Eye problems can occur. Tell your doctor if you have newer, worsening eye problems. You should not receive a live vaccine when treated with Epglyce. Before starting Epglyce, tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. Paid partnership with Lili Respect your time. Ask your doctor about Epglyce and visit Epglyce.com or call 1-800-LiliRX or 1-800-545. 5-9-7-9
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Our live. Hello guys, welcome back. On this wonderful Thursday evening, we're excited to be joined by our good friend, Frank Rogala, who has just released an amazing book that really encapsulates everything, great awakening, disclosure related. It's pretty profound and I can't wait to dive into that. Before we get into all that, Frank is also hosting a conference in Michigan, Mac and all Michigan in a month and a few weeks. How far away are we from the conference, Frank? Just like three weeks away. It's going to be end of the month. Wow. Okay. So let me show my screen here and we'll share this flyer really quick. And then we'll talk about that just for a second before we dive into everything. And then, oops. There we go. Okay. So, disclosure in Mac and all August 31st through September 2nd in Mac and all Mill Creek or Mac and all city Michigan.
And it has it in great line of speakers. Scott Walter, Emory Smith, JP, Trevor Grassley, Trevor Hawk, and is going to be presenting there. Reed, Issa, Frank himself, Mark Russell, our friend Nikki and a Jones, Anthony, Michael, and it looks amazing. It's from what I understand. It's a beautiful property. There's going to be camping, bonfires, sky watch, a number of things. So if you are interested, go to mortalsofearth.com and you can purchase a ticket there. If you're in the area, I feel like you, if you feel like you want to make the trip out there to Mac and all. At the end of the month, I would highly recommend that. And if you can't make it in person, they do have virtual passes, live stream passes available on the website as well. Mortalsofearth.com. So definitely go and check that out if you are in the area or if you feel like you're in a live stream pass, I highly recommend that. And yeah, yeah.
I want to mention that a couple of the, I haven't even talked to Aaron yet about what he's bringing, but like I got all my, all these guys are bringing like stuff that has not come out yet. Scott Walters got new stuff in this handwriting of Jesus that he's been working on. And as he leaves here, he's going to another, I don't know if I can talk about that, but he's getting more information on this. They spent like a bunch of these dudes who lacked themselves in a hotel room because all their stuff is encoded, right? And they had to decode it. And you know, it's basically, yes, you are talking about how he's half human and half not human. Hi, really? Yes. That's incredible. And then he's also recovering other Templar documents talking about nonhumans. So he's bringing that and then we're going to be bringing a bunch of stuff. We had the, the, the dig that you're on with us. I went back two more times and some, because I, my thousand year olds were going, you
know, and there's like, in a, okay, I like to talk about the Michael Hedges skull, you know, 1890, they find it. They see a hole and there's something shiny. They sent a little girl down there with the snakes and the scorpions and the spiders to go pull this thing out. And it's been famous. It goes all over the world. Time that we just saw it in, in Sedona, you know, it's been traveling all over. And we found five crystal skulls in there. And then none of them look human, you know, either the eyes are big or they're like this big and they're like 80 pounds, you know, one has a crack on the, it's full of amethyst inside of it. There's two things there that one's a, a vase with a skull on it in the back, but has a, oh, it's cracked. No, it's got, they picked this because it had the amethyst growing up. It's a crack of it. And the, the oddest assortment of things and energetically, I'm a big dowser pendulum guy, right? And it looks to me like they were making little batteries of energy because these skulls
were, you could feel it like there was one that Yisya's got custody of. She's such a sharing it with me. She's very sweet. It has a cone head and it's a rose quartz. It's this beautiful kind of rose color. And you're in this thing like this, like Trevor Grasis, like he can get away in there. So we send Trevor in, you know, and Yisya, because they're tiny. And as they're pulling these out, they're really heavy, right? Because they're full on crystal. So pulling it out, everybody's like a fireman bucket brigade pulling this out. And I was the guy getting them in the sunlight for the first time in how many thousand years. Every single person that got that one was like, it was like a baby. It was like, oh, right. And then there was another one there. It was probably the most valuable skull. It was like a jade or jadeite. And it was, because that's almost as hard as a diamond. I didn't realize it's super ridiculously hard to carve. And my pendulum would know, no, no, but, and there was two calm twins skulls that were
really long, like long, like this, they're coming to Mac and all. They were next to each other. And then was the one with a cone head. And then on the side was this green jadeite one. And I think it was like a battery of energy. And I think I've seen more than one person that they get the wrong artifact. And they lose their freaking mind, you know, they just get. I think that you've got to be really careful with these. I just had a person, I have a remote viewer that works with 20 Rodriguez. It's in Australia. It's tricky. And she's just deadly. Like, okay, you, Aaron, you know the, the first cave where the head was coming out of the wall that, you know, the not human, the not animal head. Yeah. Okay. There's a tree there. And so the one thing I didn't understand about remote viewers is, oh, just give me an alpha numeric code. And I was sitting with Sean Bond and Esa. And I think Trevor, and I said, okay, I will, I need some help.
So I just wrote four digits or five digits down and a couple letters. I said, okay, just this imprint this with this location. And then I sent it to her, right? I get back these drawings. She drives like the complete outline of the cave and the tree with the, there's a vine on the tree. It's the only tree there. And I had a vine because I had a move it up at the camera on it, right? And then she's going, okay, and there's a alien body over here, you know, which we hadn't gotten to yet because it was so much digging. But anyway, so this woman had said like people that have been MK Ultraid, you know, where there's 70% amazing person. There's 30% that they don't know what that can be controlled on. She said it's really dangerous to get them around some of these artifacts. And I've been really careful to like a lot of the ones from Tula. You find them in Tula. I get in a plane fly two hours north and I get to I go a calliantace and you get out to O'Hale's, O'Hale's like it can't say it, you know, white and green go here.
And go out with my thousand rods in the middle of the hot sun, you know, and go, yeah, this really picky bush with the big thorns on it says it's underneath here. And so we dig it and sure enough, right? I think there are millions of these out there. And I always say like, you know, Aaron, we had like, we had people with us and we had people taking care of us, but I would not just go there. When I got up to O'Hale's OJE, whatever you say it, there was dudes wearing body armor with machine guns on four wheelers going around. And like so I was hiding in the back of the locals. The locals because before we keep going on this because you just jumped in with almost zero context, nobody really knows what you're talking about here. Yes, sir. Yeah, I like to primarily focus on the book. Those artifacts are interesting. I have questions about the validity of them, even though they do the Arby and Doug up,
we have to ask questions. And I definitely think there's something to it, but I want to move on to your book and some of the amazing stuff that you've covered. And the, I retitled, I was calling this episode Cracking Open Reality, right, before you were originally named after your book. And then I changed it to Architects of Illusion based on one of the chapters of your book, the Unseen Script. And I think that is, that really built, that paints the entire picture of what's happening right now, the Architects of Illusion. So maybe you could rewind a little bit and kind of introduce yourself and let our audience know even who you are and how you found your way into this material that led you to write the book. And then we can get into kind of the meat of the book and what you wrote there because it's amazing. Yes. And thank you. And I do need being, I do need, I need to be disciplined on keeping on, on, on task. So when I was 10 years old, my brother and I were out in a remote area and in broad daylight,
this is 1967 long time ago. A ship just appeared in broad daylight, only about a hundred feet away. And it was the size of a football field, no sound, no light, no, and it was brighter than the sun. And I'm, I'm not wearing glasses to be cool. I'm like, I'm extremely light sensitive. And, but it didn't bother my eyes. And since then I've learned that that's a characteristic of plasma light. Anyway, and then it vanished and there was no, you didn't go anywhere. It was like almost somebody turned us off and then turned us back on. Pretty much from that moment on, I kind of knew that the, I mean, a 10 year old kid, I just knew that the world wasn't what it was we were being told. So if you were my teacher, my priest, my president, and you weren't telling me what this was, I didn't trust you. So from that age on, I was just looking at everything from my lens of like what's really going on. And it didn't, it was only in the last five or six years I started traveling to these
megalithic sites and started with a, and a seam harming who I had no idea who he was. I said, now next to him on a plane and he turned to me and said, you know, who are you and are, you know, whatever. And I said, like, who are you? And then we kind of like started downloading each other and it, I somehow. It's Paul and America. Make it count at the Ram Drive into Fall sales event. Make it powerful with our strongest Ram 1500 ever. Hey, it's Kelly Rowland. You may not know this, but I have Exema. So I get how it can steal your time. But why let Exema take over when you can talk to your doctor about Epglyce?
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And then when I saw the math, the calculations, and his work, and I realized just because he hadn't gone to school and had letters behind his name, he was completely ignored. And this is a guy who, on his own, figured out the mass of a protein was proton was wrong. He got the correct one. And then a year later, it was confirmed by science. It's still today not taken seriously because of that. And I was like, okay, what's up with this? And that got me into this whole branch of auto-dodaks. I know that they're the big disruptors in civilization. They're the ones that haven't been into the system, but they've got their own interest and their own passion to find out what's really going on. And pretty much every big breakthrough has been an auto-dodak. I mean, occasionally you get somebody that's in the structure, but it's almost like once they get into the academic structure, they're so busy memorizing and it's a hypnotism
or something that happens. Dr. Nated and you're almost trapped. And you're almost completely trapped at that point. And then if you don't stick to this fragile narrative, it's threatening to the system. And then I started learning about some of the ways that you're penalized. As the further back I went, you get all the way back to the beginning of civilization and it goes back to there. It made sense because if you're a warlord or a king or a pope or whatever, it makes people a lot more easy to deal with if they're thinking along this straight line. And it has gotten us to where we're at today, which it's starting to break down. We've had enough repression of enough scientist, physicist, inventions, energy devices that were at a breaking point. And so it was again, I hit it off in this scene.
So I ended up with him on another trip a couple of years later in Greece. And it was standing next to him and I think like the lightning bolt that was supposed to hit him hit me because I was like immediately I saw this new knowledge structure. And I thought, what's this? A good idea. Is this just, so I, you see him? What do you think? And I started describing to him what I saw in my mind. And he just turned me and went, oh, that's a good idea. Which I, which for him is a big, you know, he doesn't do that, right? Right. And then, yeah, so then in the way home, William Brown, the biophysicist that works with him, the guy is almost like too smart to talk human, you know? And he had a bunch of papers he had written that were, I thought were foundational, incredible that nobody's talking about. And part of it was he, okay. Okay, he had written, he had discovered something that was so threatening to the entire system
that if he had published it, it probably would have been the end of everything for him, right? And so, but he's so brilliant. These five other papers were amazing too. So I went and I said, look, I'm going to explain your five papers the way I would explain it to a seventh grader. And I want you to tell me, you know, if I'm wrong or not. And then in the course of the conversation, I again, explained this knowledge structure because I got really upset with the amount of money that's gone into dark matter that's gone into string theory. It's in, it's being taught. There's papers written, the head of MIT has written books and papers on dark matter. There is literally no basis or proof for either one. Even the experts on string theory get lost explaining it. It becomes over the complicated. Now I will tell you, I, okay, I got NDAs in place. Okay, but I can tell you that I have seen, you know, seems next to papers.
One just came out and the next one, he, it's beautiful. When you see the way that things exposed to be put together, let's just say it goes back to Plato and Platonic solids and the way the universe assembles. Everything's accounted for from the very fundamental product, particle. You can calculate the entire mass of the universe. Right now we're missing 94% of the entire universe and we're thinking we're going to find something that's going to fill it in like sparkle. You know, like imagine you walk in the dark and you're three quarter, like 94% of your floors gone, you got a big basement there and you're going to fill it with sparkle. That's what dark matter is, right? Right. Oh, this is dark matter. Let's just label it and that explains it. We got no basis for it. We never found anything. We don't know what it is. Right. So that's basically and that's on purpose. That's because if we really understood the basis of what physics really is, we would have gravity control. We would have over unity energy. I mean, I, okay, Emory, I have to think once a while what I can say.
So Emory Smith was working in the lab with Nessim and he was the person who actually developed the initial over unity device. They went and demonstrated it and it, that it worked on the way home. Emory gets in a head on car crash. Oh my. And luckily he survives it. The device survived, but they like murder his dog and then they let him know that like you either forget this or that's, that's it, right? I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. So this is like, I mean, I don't have to explain this to you guys, right? But people, people watching this don't understand that this goes all the way back to the beginning of civilization. And when I realized that and started tracing it through which in the book I do, because I get into, I would have had to write this book, but ancient languages made our brains work in the way that I'm patching with this knowledge structure, right? They literally burned people at the stake to, to get rid of ancient, you know, Celtic,
Celtics, it would take 18 years to be able to really understand and articulate it. And those guys held the Romans off. Nobody could hold the Romans off, you know, the Romans were afraid of them. And Sanskrit ancient, Ermaic, Greek, Mayan, I mean, I don't want to just be giving you a list, but all of these languages had components to them that are nothing like modern, modern languages that are flat. And they were encoded. There was numerical values to them. And there was somatics to them that we have little bits of them. And we have got some somebody that could speak a bit of it, like a Mayan elder, and they put them up on a brain scanning. Their brain lights up totally different than it does speaking normal language. And it's because it involves, you know, I don't even know. It seems like it, well, it activates the neural pathways and probably even at a genetic level, your body's processing information differently.
So, you know, obviously our language is spell casting and it was essentially dumbed down along with our genetics years ago, which is, you know, I'm sure you could speak on that as well. But I do think that language also is, it's more than just a language. It's very activating. And I think that's how some of these ancient gateways are star gates for a lack of a better term or even activated through this through these language, because it's more than just words. They understood energy, like you said, their psychrgeometry within the frequency itself that is being spoken. So, that is fascinating. And you mentioned in the book, and if you have more to tell, please go ahead. But you called them the gatekeepers of consensus. And I'm just curious. I would love to have you elaborate on what you mean by that. Hey, it's Kelly Rowland. You may not know this, but I have eczema. So I get how it can steal your time. But why let eczema take over when you can talk to your doctor about ebglyce?
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Before starting ebglyce, tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. Pay partnership with Lily. Respect your time. Ask your doctor about ebglyce and visit ebglyce.com or call 1-800-LilyRX or 1-800-545-5979. I do want to comment on what you just said before this, though. Please, please, yeah. Because you brought up a really important point about on spelling, spelling, right? And in the inversion of language, and I do have a bit of information on how language is inverted, and even politically, we're really used to it. You know, like the Patriot Act. You know, if you're against it, you're not a Patriot, right? Take away all your rights, you know. But there's, and what you were just saying is that's a really elevated view to understand that it's not just the way the brain flows and the information, but right before I went to press, I had to stop everything because they had come up with some new research on
the book. In the book, I talk about the Petri dish where they put neurons in it, and neurons are basically like the wires that go between nodes of information. They're just the wires. They're not processors, right? And you know, you can go online and see a video of these neurons that have somehow learned to play pong, you know, that old video game, right? Very simple game. They play better than I did. And the thing that was crazy enough, because without a processor, somehow in the field, these had learned to play this game. Okay, so the crazy thing was, right before I went to press, they had taught it, it had learned. I didn't teach anything. It had learned to play doom, okay? Yeah. I remember reading that in the book. Yeah. So doom, you imagine the level of complexity between pong, pop, pop, pop, and doom where you're a third person shooter and you're calculating distances, things are coming out. I mean, and it's just wires and neurons. So what Tyler just said about, okay, imagine those neurons are in our head.
And I've got, later on, we could talk about the genetic antenna that there's so much proof of in mummies and things like that. But imagine that it's not just the knowledge in the head. It's the knowledge out there that it's pulling in, right? And then somehow by flattening this language, you're losing access to these libraries, right? We've got names like Akashic records. And it always seemed like woo, woo, my hippie mom's crystals and Akashic records and whatever. But the Nazis took it really seriously. I mean, they were contacting, downloading. And I actually working with, okay, can I talk about this? Okay. So there are autistic non-verbal humans, right? And they have abilities that are very controversial. I cover that in the book too because there is so much disinformation on that.
It's just like literally attacked. And they put the way that it works nowadays is they get so much garbage around it, like the flip-up beyond these scans. Like, friend of mine working with him on his computers, that stuff works. I have other proofs of it. But if you look it up, there is so much garbage around it that it feeds into this, even if it's not scientific, the way that AI and ranking stuff goes, they know how to snuff things down, right? So a lot of these, I'm not going to jump into it too far, but let's say we have a lost language, right? Vita Austin is working on a method where she's freezing the water to get the language of this acasic or this universal library of information. She's getting the alphabet for it, right? And it's similar to these non-verbal autistic kids that the telepathy tapes is talking
about, where they communicate on a different level and they can pull things in. And so working on getting some help from a few of them that are very enthusiastic about helping us with decoding some stuff. So anyway, all that, now let's get back to the other thing. So the gatekeeping, you think of some guy with a mustache behind there and he's plotting, right? And he's keeping everything under control and tamp down. But the way the systems have been put in place and the way that they are structured, they don't really have to do anything. It keeps just even like we were talking about academia. By the time you go through the system, it's a self-correcting system. Now, later in the book, I get into actual proofs of consciousness changing reality, right? This is a thing that, you know, we had the book The Secret that, you know, on a personal
level, which I think is almost disinformation because it's, that's not where, okay, you as a person and the way you think is really important, you know, and your field is important. But the problem is, is we all have a field. And the mass field is being controlled by, you know, oh, we have to have a war. Oh, we have to, you know, climate change is human cost. Oh, we don't have enough resources. Oh, and these ideas in the field will manifest in reality. And I have, I didn't put this in the book because it was just a little bit over the edge because I'm trying to, like we were talking about before we started this that you would, I consider this to be a huge compliment saying that the book was like a big red pill. I didn't want to push it over the edge for the, my army friends that I love, right? But Naseem, again, told me a method for changing the past. And I had lost a ring in the Nile.
And I thought, well, this is harmless. Let me just work on this, right? So I did his method and then I kind of let it go. And I was literally with him again in Greece. I get a text message from a friend who's in Hollywood where I had not been. He says me a picture of my ring because this is like something you would wear. Did you lose this at my house? I said, no, I lost that in the Nile river. Let me explain later. It's the long story, right? Somebody had slept on his couch, made a bed, got up, put it away. And then a friend was sitting there playing guitar, got up to get a glass of water. We came back where he was sitting. My ring was sitting there. And he's, anyway, so what I'm saying is that was my own little part. When I speak about these things, I generally know more than I say, that's why I have such confidence. You know, and this is one of the things I thought, okay, consciousness affects reality. And it's not attached to time. And that's just me.
That's just my field doing that for something very personal. So imagine, you know, when you get into the, it seems boring. But the placebo effect is freaking amazing when you really look at it. It literally changes compounds and things in the body to have somebody think they're taking something that's, you know, that's a sugar pill, right? The Maharishi effect, which is, you know, that's kind of unexplainable. You get 1,000 people meditating at a high crime rate and it, and it's anecdotal. Yes. But it's repeatable, right? Which is another part of the book I go into like how science has been completely corrupted by the current system, the replication crisis, which I think you guys are hip to is like basically everybody's writing a paper to get published. So if something's already been published and they can do a tweak on it, or they can say, well, that was wrong. And they, then they can get published. And nobody ever goes back and like, he does it, right? So we end up with all this garbage science. And we're ignoring anything that's innovative or doesn't fit in there or is fresh and new.
It's a religion. It's become a religion that's gatecapped and it's a closed loop. And if you don't subscribe to that religion, exactly how and exactly the outcomes they want and what they already believe you're, you're done. And that's not science. The exact opposite of what the definition of science is. But when you look at the definition of religion, it fits perfectly because that's what it is. It's a religion that calls itself science, right? I thought science was the Anthony Fauci. I guess what he said. I will. Yeah, it's also Anthony Fauci. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It's also, yeah, you know, we just fit over a hundred times. So, so what what ends up happening is like I was just like, this is just completely suspicious. None of this is for the good of mankind. The other thing happens when you travel a lot is that I mean, there's a lot of really, really, really poor places. And over and over again, I'm in a place where somebody's got like just their last piece of, I mean, there's a woman in Egypt to go to her house and she's like sleeping on a, this faded out,
a threadbare hammock and there's chickens running on the floor. And you know, and she's giving us her last piece of bread and treating us like we're her family, right? And this is the same thing. The world humans are amazing. They're beautiful. I mean, like you put rats rats in a box, you put them under stress and whatever you can make them, you know, do terrible things to each other, which is basically what has been happening to us and this planet of abundance, right? And so you your your mind kind of travels beyond like, what is the motivation? What is the story? Why is this? Who is this benefiting? And it becomes very dark, you know, when you when you and again, I'm I am not going to have to I am preaching to the choir here because you guys have seen behind the scenes of what goes on and what we talk about. Basically, we're living in a control system that is multi-layered and but it's it's it's
wearing at the seams and I think with COVID was the they overplayed their hand, right? It's just becoming I mean, I still see posts online from I did music and film the TV for a lot of years and just some super hypnotic I mean, I think they leave the TV on too much or whatever they're going they're just being so mean to Anthony Fauci, you know, and I'm like, you know, I can't think of a bigger demon, you know, never beat the talking points, the media tells them like word for word, you can even see like it's a word for word, people repeat the same phrases that they're told. So it's a programming installed and this is what so many people with their whole their whole personality and like, belief system is like one big installed program, right? Well, it's your story, Aaron, is what intrigues me because you are one of the people that started questioning because you were, you know, everybody I was I got out of it. Yeah, well,
how do you know what you know, you know, and very few people ask that you ask that question, you know, where does this come from? Am I just following a pattern? Am I just doing what everybody else is doing? Am I just accepting something because I've been told? And you started looking for your own, you know, your your own answers and your own, uh, and it's led you down this path of seeking truth, right? It was my biggest problem was my first draft of the book I had said the word truth, uh, 287 times. I was like, okay, I have to go. I have to go make it 300. Yeah. I got up at the three. I got up at the first editor was a was a JPL scientist. He said, you know, truth is empirical. He's just like, you know, there's truth is not necessarily something you can measure. You know, I was like, okay, yeah, I got it. I got to fix this, you know, so. So I mean, there's so much like when I was writing notes for this episode today, I was like, okay,
how do we I was trying to figure out how we can encapsulate and over 600 paid book into one interview. You know, there's just so much. And so we can't, but one of the things that you do emphasize is by the end of the book, you'll know you won't be asking who they are. You'll be able to point at them. And I guess this is the biggest thing for a lot of people who are raking up and are new to this. Every, you know, we're just so used to talking about them and they, but you seem to have been able to pinpoint and identify who you think these players are. And I would love to hear you break that down for not just us, but the audience and help everyone identify these players and who they are. Well, I've been greatly aided by the Epstein files. I will tell you that because it, if you look at it in with open eyes and see what it really tells you about what happens in whose pulling strings, what goes on. It gets deeper and deeper. Ultimately, I didn't really go there as far as talking about
the non-human element that is affecting everything. And I will right now with you guys because I'm in friendly company. But so I'm going to go in a couple of weeks and talk to David about this because that dude was one of the first people to call it out. And he's taken like these guys that come out and he survived, you know, and he still, he still lives there. And he's still putting up with it. But there's okay. It's fall in Jeep country. And during the drive into fall sales event, get a great deal on four by fours that refuse to be contained like Jeep Wrangler. Confidence built into every drive with the most awarded SUV ever, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and freedom that can't be denied with the open air freedom and Jeep Gladiator. After 85 years, it's no surprise that Jeep became America's SUV brand. Get a great deal during the Jeep Drive into fall sales event. Jeep is one more awards over its lifetime than any other SUV brand, even the Jeep Gorilla Registered Trademarks of FCA US LLC.
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one grain of sand off that that's what we're perceiving of the world around us. And okay I was charitable. I said basically we have the senses we need to survive but I also have evidence in the book. We are the only creature on this earth that so far they're still testing them right? Every plant frog fish dog bird whatever might have six to 12 genetic defects six to 12 okay. Nobody seems to pay attention to the fact that humans have 6,000 and they're keep finding more. That is not that is not natural in any way. We were purposely messed with along with I've got the the proof that we were genetically modified. And that was something that I had to be very careful about because I know the scientist that actually found I mean he he has the spot that it's a splice it's an actual splice. But the Max Planck Institute actually has found the amino acid
that goes along with it. And again a metaphor the chances of that happening it doubled our neural capacity right. The chances of that happening naturally are you know is if a jet engine blows up falls to the ground reassembles and runs better than it did in the first place that would be you know virtually impossible right. And I assume these are these non-human players that you're talking about at the top of the food chain here. So this kind of ties back also to these artifacts we're finding that we're finding a lot of proofs in these not just carbonating not just thermo luminescence not just ceramic magnetic because all of those things can have problems but now we have a fourth that's just emerged that we're if you drill into them there's a plant-based catalyst that made them there because many many many of them are polymer they look like stoned but they're not they're they're a polymer aluminum silicate. And I what I was I set up and I will argue with AI
sometimes this is my I'm kind of lonely you know so I just get on to argue with it and I said okay I know there's a kind of kind of capitalism coming and I want to make sure that we don't have to start from scratch. What stone would be the best stone if I wanted to leave human information on it for the you know to be recovered whenever it takes us to to to come back out of this right or would it be better if I used aluminum silicate which is what this polymer seems to be made of which is like sand like silica and aluminum which has to be fired at 4,500 degrees by the way in a very exact way. And AI went oh aluminum silicate you know because it's impervious to heater cold it doesn't allow moisture intrusion you could draw fine lines in it and lichens can't grow on it and I think this is why there's a lot of problems with people when they see these things and they're shiny and look like they were made yesterday and they're beautiful and they hold their finish it's because it's kind of impervious to everything and and there there is like so many tiny little things you
written into them. So maybe the reason I mention that is because I've now seen quite a few thousand of these and very few things on them look human and there's not like they're all alien big heads. I mean there's like ethereal beings there's insect looking ones there's avian looking ones there's things that look like they're you know there's all kinds of shapes of heads right and and there are commonalities between some of those but I think prior to younger dry us this was a very different place and I think that there's a reason why we are not supposed to know this like for instance there was a tape that just went public a few days ago that I'd heard about for years about horara and team makers had given a private little conference for a couple of people and let's just say it's not public it it came out of a server it was leaked right and there's a lot of
problem that's the Egyptian government put a national security hold on this information and when you see they're going why right and there is you know the as we know there's a and a material in there that's not known of the earth I mean this is a this technology is used by the British military and it's a material it's an alloy that's not of this earth and it's huge it's like this size of the short end of a football field in an omega shape along with there are two ships in there that are full-size operational ships one is upside down they're like over a hundred feet long and you can see when you look at these scans that there was there was a lake I mean you go there today it's dry and there's a canal going through with the waters way down low and there was a lake there and that's one of three pyramids I've been in where the what you go outside the water table is way down low and you go in the pyramid it's like
right up there and team makers says that he thinks that they use the pyramids as a way to bring the water up and they would fill canals to get between seas right and this had this had ships around it something so dramatically cataclysmic happened that it just sealed it and and so not only can you see it from his scans but some of my really talented remote viewer friends have looked at it they said they're not going to let you in there like when they start seeing what's in there it's basically been just completely sealed over it's got everything in there from you the statues the there's gold there's and not you know ancient advanced technology which we also know that there's a ship ship the CIA's Richard Doedy talked about it but I have got other people that know that have been under the Egypt plateau there's a ship there they seem to be able to phase
in underneath the ground there's there doesn't have to be a hole or something this is something that JP has talked about too is that they're these enormous arcs and they're not just he's pretty much named about seven locations on earth but he's also said they're in the moon and Mars and other places as well and they're very very ancient and a lot of what he sees inside look like hieroglyphics and he's not an expert in hieroglyphics so it's not like I can say you know what period and whatever but you know it's just I mean he's just a soldier dude you know and so you get get out of him what his impressions are so what I'm saying is there is behind everything this advanced okay let me go back even let me be even more complete of an answer so Marco Vigado is very you guys know I'm talking about he's he's a researcher we I would to pay just Nicholas with him and Trevor Grosse and he will not let me talk about the artifacts these artifacts he's just not want to hear about it
right which is great because he's completely entitled inside the academic system and if we need to get a permit or dig someplace like that's the dude that can make it happen you know and he's yeah but he wrote a book called the stages of Atlantis which I hadn't thought of this is something that the Egyptian priest told Plato's great uncle Solon that he goes oh you guys know about one cataclysm there was a bunch of cataclysm right yeah and and so he has got enough records he's talking about these stages of Atlantis and what happened and so like after the first cataclysm the cataclysm the cataclet got smart and you know started I think these are their methods of encoding information you know between cataclysm and he actually talks about there was a break off society became very dark they were doing genetic experiments with with like humans and animals for like creepy sexual reasons along with really dark ritual stuff right and on a lot of these artifacts you'll see like double helixes and DNA I got four or five myself there's one sitting right here
actually this is one of the first ones that Scott Walther and I had both wanted to get custody of and I won anyway my in my humble opinion in the last cataclysm the bad guys won the good guys are still here are our friend Nickyana I think she encountered one of these dimensional bubbles where some of the survivors that were the good guys were kind of held up you know it's kind of like I don't like using movie references because I don't watch all the movies but the the recent one where you know there's like a dimensional bubble and the society is inside of it in my cataclysm remember it but but it's a similar thing and this is like way in a very remote area she had to follow guys and loincloths you know through the jungle for she didn't know she was up she was in the middle of people she knew that was going to happen right um hey it's Kelly Rowland you may not
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get a great deal during the jeep drive into fall sales event jeep is one more awards over its lifetime than any other sep brand jeep in the jeep grille register trademarts of fca uslc hi i'm tia sui hernannis as a paren i know they've been present make all the difference i have three young sons and i learned that kids don't just hear i reward they feel them too the way we respond in tough moments the sense of security we provide it all matters when we help our kids to feel hurt and support her we help you and then feel safe and protected that's why i support first-sife scali for you and their mission to ensure every child has a stronger starting life learn more at first five california.com so the the the the parasite doesn't kill its host you know they keep enough of it alive that they can feed on it and they can reproduce in whatever um i think what's what's coming to light now is uh boy i i have to stop i'm editing myself and i'm talking to you guys and i realize i don't have to do that because you don't have to do that um these these non-human
things um they we we see so much of the electromagnetic spectrum i've had actually niki just talked about this let me let me mention this so amie eskridge is one of these scientists that disappeared do you know this story about what niki just had happened on the plane yeah okay okay so that within 24 hours her telling me that story uh okay but maybe actually we should tell the story real quick because she was you know she she's a flight attendant everybody's sleeping and she was cleaning up and she saw this woman she said this looks like somebody who is this woman saw her looking at her and she in front of niki changed into a sort of brown cut hair her hair was tied into a blonde hair and a bow on the top right like just shifted like this right 24 hours before that i had another person come and see me tell me a similar story um that was much more personal and much more traumatic right so these things are here they're in with the population they're in the royal families
they're running things and uh they're they're feeding off of us not all of them are corporeal some of them are able to to to use humans like a host right the thing that and none of this is in my book it's just because i'm taking you to the edge of this right but what is in my book is that we are extremely powerful they don't want us to know that because if they if we figure that out they are just toast the only the only thing they have on us is our ignorance the minute that we start understanding that we're directly connected to that divine spark and we manifest reality with our consciousness they're they're they're done. Aim over. Yeah. So i mean that goes beyond beyond the message of my book but my book is even for i'm really happy when people that have been immersed in this kind of truth and this information for as long as you guys have we'll get things out of
it because i was thinking that oh you know air knows this you know it's like okay i'll put it in just you know i'll put the Mandela effect in you know i'll put in as a man think it's so you know it is with him and all of this stuff that um you know our our community and and people know um i'm really heartened to to like Sean Bond is going to do a show with me on friday or saturday and he loved the book and i was completely shocked because you know i'm thinking i'm not i'm not giving anything new but i think maybe it was because it took me a long time to figure out how to assemble and build the case right and then because i was building towards this tritle knowledge structure which is now patent pending um you know i've got a 10 months to make it a real thing and so and i think and there's a lot of ways i can do it but i think the first thing i'm going to do is make it a augmented reality where you can kind of walk in to this knowledge structure and then you can
pick your and i i can make it very simple at first it just have to show that it works but ultimately it will work on any topic so that it's not necessarily a truth machine but what you'll see is what makes sense what doesn't make sense you can put something in there like covid or september 11th and like and see the connections and what makes sense and you know and and it will yeah it'll self-organize and instead of being squeezed on this line and oh this is true this is false this is bindi bonk this is real you're gonna see it all because all everything stays up there because even things that we know we all know things we were told that were true that we now know our false and vice versa and even in physics the things that they call constants like the speed of light or when water boils those dynamically change under certain conditions so the universe doesn't go along a straight line you know it it's dynamic it changes and that's the way that any model that reflects it should be so ultimately what this is doing is emulating the way that the human brain
used to work before like we can't really recover those those languages and maybe we will through people that are reading these records you know the the nonverbal autistic people or maybe via austin's research you know bringing it in maybe we'll recover that right yeah it's still in the it's still in the field so we just have to tap in that's what they're doing it sounds like they're tapping into the field and and then pulling it in and I I do think that's going to happen more and more until we regain this information and start utilizing it again on a mass in a mass way well I mean look look at what's like we're talking about like JP it's fall in Jeep country and during the driving to fall sales event get a great deal on four by fours that refuse to be contained like Jeep Wrangler confidence built into every drive with the most awarded SUV ever Jeep Grand Cherokee and freedom that can't be denied with the open air freedom in Jeep Gladiator after 85 years it's no surprise that Jeep became America's SUV brand get a great deal during the Jeep driving
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through these you know these energy feels like everything is energy money is energy everything is energy and so as we we move into these different fields it's almost like I don't want to be lazy about it but I mean we almost don't have to do anything because it's going to reveal itself right but I'm in a hurry so let's let's jack it up a little bit and make it happen a little faster you know we don't need any more wars we don't need any more fighting you know people are freaking beautiful and you know we live in a beautiful place that the the the thing that I one of my editors the jpl dude right completely materialist physicist because I've been studying space a lot and plus you know when you know people like like David Adair and JP and like they have
JP like he's my height but he's big guy like he gave me the first time he gave me a hug I was like whoa he's like twice my size and he's my height right he's a big guy but it's got some physical problems and all these guys are going these programs and do go into space and stuff they develop serious stuff like you know circulation and heart and all kinds of stuff David Adair too and so I asked him Andrew Bershago same I mean the list goes on and on side to cut you off but yeah it's very true the temporal side effects are you know you you become disoriented and it has long term damage does long term damage and you know time travel hurts as they say going through stargates and portals and all kinds of stuff yeah I was telling Emory I said I think you were going through a portal every day when you went to work because he was describing this hallway he went down and because these guys they end up very they're in their gut you know they like like JP a lot of times they'll knock him out they'll give him a shot or they'll be in a room and something will happen he'll wake up
and he has to figure out where he's at and he kind of does it from his gut well so my my friend my first editor who is just gonna you know he wasn't gonna go there he knows about quantum physics but you know like the entanglement thing just freaks him out right because I was talking to Naseem Harming about this I said you know it doesn't really make sense that you can have something like billions of light wears away and it's entangled and I wiggle this and that wiggles there I said I think everything's in the same place and I think distance is the illusion and that you know and that's that's the only way it makes sense I mean he just went he just smiled he didn't say anything just smiled at me which that's him you know yeah but um so I got finally got this I mean I've known him for 15 years and you know he edited my book and he was hard I wanted I wanted to face that kind of scrutiny before the book was out I wanted to have a materialist physicist you know I mean this is the guy what I came back from Mexico and I found a bunch of
artifacts and he goes well how do you find these you know don't be I said what my dowsing rods and he like just laughed out loud into my face right and I'm like okay I forgive you because number one you're a little autistic but the number two you know I'm sure it seems ridiculous to you as a materialist physicist right but I mean I I would think like okay what is going on what how could this happen I mean he go every time he goes he finds a bunch of things in the middle of nowhere right but I said okay so he's he's an expert on not only travel to Mars but also Mars itself and he's the one explained to me how it's kind of impossible to go to Mars the way that Elon Musk is talking about it and he's he calculated out like the fuel and this and that and all the stuff and it not not only the radiation and all that stuff right but I said okay your hardest pumping blood all the time and that's moving through your system but you have a lot of other fluids like you know your lymph lymphatic system and other things that move because your body is moving and because of a specific gravity
so I said okay I said the very first I this is the very first question I sat him down and I got it on tape but I haven't put it out yet I said okay so Elon Musk is right we get to Mars let's just pretend and we're we got to live there so then slowly over the next year we slowly and painfully die anyway yes I was like okay right because until we have at least gravity control gravity is only one component of it because you you you were actually mentioned Tyler you know we're talking about like resonance vibration you know like the sun you know the shulman resonances and and uh yeah and and and I know that from talking to Emory and um and some of the other guys that have recovered these ships when they get the if there's a body there sometimes it'll be completely like it won't decay or whatever like the if the ship is intact or the if they take it away the the
being the way from it if it's not conscious or it's injured or whatever it will degrade really quickly they've got some kind of feel that keeps it in a stasis from wherever it's from or whatever so I think we have a lot to learn if we're gonna get off this rock if we don't want to do it you know slowly and painful but then well I think well I think I think we're already there in a secret way yeah that's the thing I think we're I think we've been there for a while the moon and Mars in other places but it's been kept from the masses and it's it's so it's so deep black that you know no one out no one acknowledges it other than you we get these like few whistleblowers or few experiencers that somehow slip through the cracks right um and many of them giving a killed afterwards right so I I think we already have all this technology to do all this stuff it which is why it's even more insane that you have Elon Musk or all these other people saying we're gonna do it rockets and we're going to do it's like no we we decades ago we're already there you know it's just been compartmentalizing kept from the masses and then all this advanced
tech has been used in that way and it's been weaponized against humanity rather than being used for the benefit of me yeah well where we're going if we're if we're going on the ascension timeline and the awakening timeline at some point the technology has to come out to benefit humanity and be used for the good of all and then feel like hey guys we already have this free energy tech we already have the ability to live on Mars and other plants and in a way that we're not going to die and you know we're not going to have to like oh we got to figure it out now it's like no we already have it and I think a lot of this tech came from ET's uh you know whether it was crashed ET crafts or gifted in a way in ways or channeled or Tesla or others that invented it and then it was you know squashed and hidden away all of it are traded for human food or whatever right right t-towns and proud I mean you name it go down the list of like people that were silenced and then they're like oh yeah they they were just kind of a quack or they're stuffed and go anywhere and
then secretly they're still developing it all into you know and this has been going on for probably over a hundred years now it's up smiling because because my next sentence was going to be like I'm thinking like okay I realized what I'm talking to here uh because like I've also got my friends that have told me there's more people that speak German in space than there is on earth right yeah so so they obviously have had a way to do this and do it in a way that was healthy for the human animal it's just that right now talking the way we are like you said you know it's to say hey we're gonna take a rocket and we're gonna live on Mars you know but when I but when I like okay but me saying that to you guys you're like oh yeah but if I say this to somebody like you said normie who knows nothing about any of this they think I'm crazy or they think I'm reading crazy conspiracy theories on the internet and that's all I'm basing it's like no this stuff is real and and you can you can follow the trails and look at the evidence and look at the whistleblowers and look at all the stuff that builds this case that this is real we've had this stuff for a long time
we're in ET is already here we're already in contact with them uh we already have his advanced tech we don't need to pay to live on the planet we're born on we can live abundantly and freely but they're like you mentioned the control system which I like I use that term too because that's what just everyone understands what that means it's still in place and it's still keeping this stuff from us but that has to go away so that we can you know humanity can have all this stuff but right now I think we're in this transition process to figure out well number one they're holding on for dear life you know hanging on by a thread but they're still fighting tooth nails that are in and then number two has to come out in a safe way and and the right way has things have to be done the right way and I think we're in that phase right now which is why it's so exciting the times we're in right now because things are happening and and we're moving along and we're we're all part of this right so I love your book because your book is so powerful to like wait people up to what's what's going on to get them to to join in this right and be like whoa
there's this whole greater thing going on that I've been led to believe here right so yeah so I so that's the first by really loves pet pill think up but okay so doctor doctor fill right we got doctor fill okay hi I'm Tasi Hernandez as a paren I know they'll be in prison make all the difference I have three young sons and I learned that kids don't just hear I reward they feel them too the way we respond in tough moments the sense of security we provide it all matters when we help our kids to feel hurt and supporter we help you and then feel safe and protected that's why I support first five scolifornia and they're mentioned to ensure every child has a stronger starting life lay more at first five california dot com Toyota's easy choice sales event is on whether you're looking for the performance of the camera the versatility of her at four the efficiency of a corolla or all electric driving in the bz there's a Toyota that's just right for you and with great
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since you know the early days they've they've had thought think tanks could go and go what's going to happen to people what are they going to say the everything's been based on you know they're so I was actually just talking with uh carotal malanga um Italian are you guys familiar with him he's not really well known in this country um when I went to the sphinx the press conference the second sphinx and I'm in that room with a thousand people they were there for carotal malanga and nobody here knows who he is and he did he did that on purpose he doesn't translate any of his books into English uh he says I don't want to be murdered right and just today his people sent me he has a test on what your origin where you've been messed with um it's a and I haven't even I have a chance to look at it it's the first time it's been translated into English I got the first copy sitting right over here because I printed it out because I've got to just kind of study it
because it's the procedure you go through um these uh these Italians go there with it you know and uh that they're um completely like way ahead of us as far as the control system who they are what are their parasitic they don't give a crap about us like I um I had a really traumatic like after that experience that I told you about at the beginning about why the book is written I basically had this very physically damaged by an abduction thing and it's taken sent 12 surgeries until like the last couple years for me to kind of be normal uh because of what happened and this I was talking with them about it they said yeah they don't care they don't they're psychopathic you know um they want you to stay like that in fact yeah they don't want to heal you right that's the systems based on that so keep you on the hamster wheel of feeding yeah right and so there is we're kind of we we're not kind of we are all over the place right now so
there's no real direction to this episode so I want to try and get this you know kind of get this back on course so we can um wrap this up on a high note where we're right over an hour already um you you know we I asked you a while back you know how you're gonna explain in the book how you can point out who they are and we never really got there um so well we touched on it but it's yeah we touched on it but maybe we can go back and just um just kind of hone in on like how how people can identify like I know you talked about the ancient world but that's not what I was actually asking I'm I want to know like right now when people walk out their front door how they can identify who they are and how they what can they do about that just to keep it really simple if you if they're a politician if you know their name if you're if your god has a name if um if there are celebrity that's at a certain level um they don't get there unless they're in this they're a they right
and they and they may not be um making the decisions but they are controlled by it and uh and it's and there's several ways that that it happens one one is like they physically become uh you know uh in a thorough being is controlling but there's also other control methods and there's also like overnight like a podcaster like uh came out and said yeah I sold my soul he said I he did the ceremony the next day there was two million dollars in his bank account his views went up I mean there are so many dull boy this look at your world right dull boy podcasters out there with huge audiences right and they have beautiful studios and they bring out amazing guests because they got big budgets you know and you're going this guys are like a dumbass you know it's like what where where does this come from and I don't even have to name names you've got probably in your head going tic tic tic tic right yeah um that's the it's just the evolution of where we like you can go back
thousands of years who's ever in the front whoever is taking the attention who is ever the person to follow the everything that's taking you away from you understanding that it's all about you connecting with the divine source it's that's they okay and and I'm talking like even sports like my next book I didn't really want to know doing a book but like sports is such a spell it goes back you go to the back to the my and their ball courts are huge parts of their I mean you've got a huge mass of people they're all involved in a consciousness is on it has nothing to do with them personally sitting in that chair but it's a way of training their consciousness to go outside of themselves I mean you've got massive riots that happened in cities after these these big sporting events and everything is focused on it you've got you know you're marketing alcohol and products and it that's what that's one angle of it right anything that's that that's projecting your human consciousness outside of connecting yourself to the divine and divine spark
is part of that system so they is is a it's a very broad but it's everywhere you look right you know yeah and real quick I want I want to say that it's it's a hierarchy like how it works because a lot of people there's people that only see like you said the surface layer like if you know their name they're they're way down the pyramid right they're the lowest level of the pyramid and they're just a puppet they're just a controlled puppet they're not they're not really the ones in control at all they're just upon they're the ones just keeping us in line like they're keeping us in line and their job is to so we we look at them and then oh they're the enemy or they're great either way you're still feeding into the system right they don't care whether you're super against them or super for you're feeding your energy out like you said outside of yourself you're feeding but above them you eventually you get to I mean you can say reptilians or negativity tease but I would say anything that's physical you got to go above them and then you get to the
non-fiscal entities demons or cons whatever term you want to use it all works it describes a non-physical negatively oriented entity that is a parasite and that's what's really at the top of the pyramid of all of that right and that's making sure that the rest of the pyramid stays in place and keeps manipulating and doing its job keeps that keep the wheels running in that machine so that the masses who are actually powering everything we're the ones powering it like you said before the second we wake up we stop powering it it's game over right and that's what those those either astral parasites well they are astral parasites and physical parasites and what ever they aren't actually what they're primarily doing is working through people and then so those people do become the controllers but it's something working through them because it's been you know hijacked at a very young age but anyway Frank what are your thoughts on on that what Aaron just said I think that's that is the root level of everything anything that's
directing you outside of look at the end of the book I give some really simple I wanted to keep it really direct exercises for kind of regaining your own you know sense of alignment and guidance and to to stop looking outside for should I do this should you know and start to feel that that's one thing you don't see this with Emory Smith until you hang out with him because on TV he's sitting there you know being the host or whatever but when you hang out with him and actually JP as well they're completely in their gut you know and to me that's a really good model for all of us right is to to to to to to feel that sense and and they will tell me like JP will say hey I'm nothing you should see my wife man you know and and and then Emory calls call starly you know the drag and Easter right I mean these the the women in their lives are very powerful too and kind of the protectors and kind of the you know the you know watching the field around them and this is what I
notice about people that have had one-to-one contact with you know other beings other races other entities that they're they're they're very very positive even people that do negative crap I mean they they will not focus on the negative stuff and you know it's kind of like this is I'm looking at them for my teachable the teachable moments for me to watch how they deal with the neck we all you know you stub your toe you got somebody's being difficult you got somebody being nasty to you online and their way of dealing with it is you know you don't you don't feed it like like like JP because you don't throw more wood on the fire just gets bigger right and then in the consciousness level of a really elevated way to think of this is like okay you're creating this field and so if you this person is being giving you problems like we would have we we would not be a piece of
that divine spark out learning about itself and creating and and becoming an enriching and making a beautiful experience if everything was just boring and smooth right so right basically and this goes back thousands of years it's like you you think that person you forgive them you tell them you love them and you tell them you're sorry for making them in your consciousness so yeah it's like a four step thing I think it is right yeah so it's like I'm sorry please forgive me thank you I love you I'm not sure if that's the correct order but those are the four yes so JP was just talking like and I was like that is that and I said you just gave a really elevated ancient way of handling which is is acknowledging your own power and your unconsciousness rather than putting this is the thing it's like we've been all been taught that everything is separated and it's disconnected from us and so part of us gaining our agency back is understanding how connected we are
and that we don't need that other person to tell us what we don't need to watch that we don't know I mean it comes down to even the whole materialism there are deserts and chili covered with designer clothing because they can't dump them all and they have to have the new spring line come out you know I was I was in the Egyptian Museum with Muhammad Ibrahim and I said okay we just walked through about seven you know thousands of years and the clothing and the makeup and everything is the same through that whole period I said yet hi I'm Tasi Hernandez as a parent I know that I'm impressed and make all the difference I have three young sons and I learned that kids don't just hear I award they feel them too the way we respond in tough moments the sense of security we provide it all matters when we help our kids to feel hurt and supporter we help you and then feel safe and protected that's why I support first five scolifornia and their mission to ensure every child has a stronger starting life lay him in more at first five california dot com
meet the red bull dragonberry amridgeys it's one of the many new drinks out now who knew ice cold drinks could be sun fire try them all only at my toes hi I'm Tasi Hernandez as a parent I know that we're in prison make all the difference I have three young sons and I learned that kids don't just hear I award they feel them too the way we respond in tough moments the sense of security we provide it all matters when we help our kids to feel hurt and supporter we help you and then feel safe and protected that's why I support first five scolifornia and their mission to ensure every child has a stronger starting life lay him in more at first five california dot com we got a new color this spring and then we got a new style next fall and then we got a new you know and and it's a the the whole materialistic kind of outside of ourself thing he says well the clothing was structural it worked it kept the flies off the body it did this and some of it had her bits in the meaning yeah
yeah and there was a geometry to some of it like those headdresses and things like that that things that we probably don't understand yet you know we're we're in plastic like I'm wearing plastic right now you know and we we've got things that we are finding out that it actually bleed into our systems and the factor endocrine systems and we we have disconnected ourselves so much from from our own vibration in the earth that our floors are our insulators are shoes are insulators are sidewalks are insulators you can make a sidewalk that has you know quartz in it that is connected that is grounded yet our concrete is like there's no there's us from the earth yeah the unconscious architecture really I mean if there was any consciousness if there was any elevate consciousness at all there are thought was put into the thought process of the engineering then there would be something like what you just explain quartz in the concrete it
makes sense right but it's all unconscious you can almost see the consciousness level of a entire civilization just by looking looking at the structure of the looking at how all the buildings are built looking at how everything's made and built it looks so it's all dead it's all lifeless it's all disappeared or toxic look at how their house is decorated even like found it in the visual you can see you know right cookie cutter everything looks the same go down the list right yeah it's like this you know very low level of consciousness so let me just mention in the book I go into this actually because this is a really important subject right here one thing I noticed in all the ancient places was there was not I mean you look at the Parthenon you think oh it's like this building like this it's not it's actually a pyramid if you follow the lines up it goes like this there are not straight lines unless they're making a standing wave like in the King's chamber and making a resonant cavity to make a standing wave specifically but basically you know you go into the valley temple you know you got a stone that turns the corner four inches right and it was John
Anthony West he's lived in Woodstock and there were speaker makers there and he said that these master speaker makers would carve the wood on an angle they wouldn't put two pieces of wood like this in the corner they would carve it on an angle to keep the for the frequencies of the sound to be more you know a resonant coherent right and so if you take and look at like anything that's mildly intact from the ancient world it's it's curved I was in Daring Koo you to do deep under the earth and there was a little passage in Muhammad Ibrahim this came here because he like you know I was singer right and whenever he's the resonant thing he makes he drags me in there and there was two footprints carved out where your feet would go and then so I stood there and I thought oh I know what this is and it's completely dark you can't see anything but it was like a U shape and if you just went ah you didn't feel anything but in the other room it just rattled them right so having grown up in like since 1980 at my first recording studio and either you got a dead space
where it's very everything it's almost muffled you know kind of sounding right or they have no parallel surfaces and so you don't have any waves building up and it's not just sound waves that are other waves other frequencies that build up as well everything in our civilization is square walls right and so I know you've had the experience of being in a small room in a kitchen and just a couple people talking you can't even hear each other talk because it's just it's it gets to be you know it's too it's building up it's reflecting and it's not just the energy of the sound it's other energies as well this house had to be completely rebuilt it was like sears one gubri ward house from a hundred years ago and it was like in really bad shape and it was all facing the highway because it was a motel and they wanted to see the business well I the lake is there I want to see the lake so I had to change where everything went and plus it was kind of falling down and so my walls they look fine like the pictures hanging everything but that wall
is actually curved like this just a tiny bit and then and that wall is curved a tiny bit now the other two walls are straight and so I could have this house you I've got surround sound I could put the lasers on the music the subwoofers going and have it full of people and you can hear the person talking next to you and the music sounds great because it's not building up and it didn't cost any more money all it took was because I talked to my my got we have wood shops at the campground you know we got carpenters and everything else and I originally thought you know I don't build our I'm not an architect right and so what I was doing my recording studio I wanted it to be like the really great studio as I've been in and a lot of those are really wacky you know you see all these surfaces like this and so I drew this picture of this like really odd thing and so one of the guys he was old kuska guy he went away and he like thought about it and he like looked up some stuff he went you know you don't have to it could be square but on the inside we just kick this wall out and then this will kick this wall a little bit and then your
ceiling is already like a shed roof and and he did that out there and it was amazing I love the studio right so when I had to do this house I did the same thing and you feel it it's not just yeah it's not just the audio and so I imagine every freaking building in civilization has those square walls but you go back to the ancient world and they knew better you know right right it's like you can see how did they know this thousands of years ago they knew all this stuff they knew I mean was like made sacred geometry and geometries like that like it's like clearly they they already knew all this stuff and now it's like we're rediscovering it really you know it's just we're remembering it really but now it's like clearly it was lost and you know like you said there was a cat soon to be a cataclysm or something something happened where we had all this knowledge we had a very advanced civilization that was in harmony with nature thriving in that way and then it
was lost somehow and then it was like some kind of control system took advantage of that came in and wanted needed us to keep now dumbed down you know and that's I think that's the season it is you know and but now we're coming back we're remembering we're breaking out of that but they are scrambling and they're desperate to keep to staying control but there's at the same time in my opinion there's nothing they can do to stop it nothing it's not what's coming right but that doesn't mean they're gonna stop trying and they're gonna stop creating a lot of things. You guys are if you guys have started this like if there was podcast you could start at this 10 years before you probably wouldn't have survived you know right right I mean it's like timing even like divine timing I think everything happens at the right divine divine timing for a reason yeah and then the way it needs to happen and the awakening is no different like you see I mean COVID is the last big thing everyone can point to but like in the last 10 years like how many people have woken up that before that you know our audience would have been way smaller like you're talking
you're like you're screaming of the wind almost right so we're on that trajectory but there's one more thing I wanted to talk about the exciting stuff like the Egypt scans and the exciting stuff coming coming up in Egypt I don't know if we I know that's okay yeah topic it of itself but if you want to just touch on that all I can tell you is all that stuff is real okay it's the Philippa Boundese one of the top six people on earth to understand it and what the problem has been is people go to look it up they're the keyboard researchers right and when you have something it's new and it's a it's a it's a completely groundbreaking protocol you're not gonna find it in a Google search right so they look up they go well SAR it can only penetrate to seven meters true that's not what he's doing what he's doing he's penetrating to seven meters but he's reading seismic changes so he uses filters to look at on a pixel level
like vibrations at a tiny tiny vibrations and he can calibrate and he's been able to remove noise and do it unknown structures it's so exact that there was a building and it had a parking structure and they did it a year apart and they compared it and they were able to see that one part ahead moved a quarter of an inch in the parking structure right this is very exact the thing is is they see these blurry pictures and they don't understand that there are slice and that there are literally thousands of these slices and then they're interpolated between them you know like meshing them right to get the rest of the drawing and it it shows you when you will if you look online and look at the people that have been debunking or call you it's an idiot it shows you where the idiots right it's like people listen to these people you know they have thousands of followers these are influencers right and it's like the information is there if you just that first press conference they did after on the Coffrey pyramid it took a month to translate everything so
when these seconds things cans scans came up Trevor and I went over and we're okay we're going to do this immediately we're going to translate it immediately did not know we were getting into there was like 300 slides they were all in Italian that we had to do that and then it represent a choral chorato morangas lifetime work right so everything we translated we couldn't just do with AI or the normal thing because like the word secara doesn't translate you know when you put it through so we and his team was very particular about getting everything done so it took us two weeks about two weeks to do a really good job of it and I promise Philippo I would do it in Spanish too which we're still doing because that's it's a whole no job but you know you you've got the the the plateau itself literally has an underground city underneath it hi I'm Tasi Hernandez as a parent I know they'll be in prison make all the difference I have three young sons and I
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his garage just cranky way on his own time doing his own you know taking time from his family and it's a trillion dollar protocol I mean he could be out looking for treasure he could be out looking for minerals and he's doing this because he's a friend of Crotto Manga and Crotto's like you know wanting to expose this story and Filipo is just for philanthropic reasons doing doing this so the the cure is that there are other places on the earth that are not as difficult to do this with right anything like in Mexico Guatemala these and there's amazing stuff there like for instance Trevor and Markovagato I got to tag along to go to Piedras Negras which is in the middle of the jungle and you got to take a boat and crack a dials and there's drug gangs and there's like poisonous everything right and see you there's dousing rods like I know where it is like I found it like I
did like 70 readings they all pointed to the same thing right and I do the same thing like in Egypt you cannot get a dousing rod out you they will they consider witchcraft I mean you can get arrested and yeah or meditate or do it on say anything like that you can't like sing you can't if you have enough money because that's how we do it right you just give the guards a money in the area that was it it was like I had to get like I got caught I was in the anti chamber into the king's chamber and my dousing rods were just going and and Trevor came and he thought it was hilarious I said do not put this on the internet because that remember one that guard who's being a real that wants money now will get fired or get in trouble and I don't really want to do that you know and the other thing is is like I want to be able to come back you know again but I went all the way around the Sphinx like kind of at the Sphinx you know yeah I got down inside and kept away from the guards and like everything pointed to Bill Brown's horse stable like I'm going where do you
hauler records hauler records boom boom boom everything there right so and we know that they've drilled holes on you could see the plugs there was a red bull event and they had put a tent over it and then you know and you but you could see what's left because they know that there's a tunnel going to there and there's a pyramid that goes underground it's like a newbie in pyramid it's underground pyramid and it's right under his stable and it's we think it's okay so in Mexico when we're digging for these artifacts um there are some people like the the on the next expedition after we went with you that could not go in the cave they would start reacting and coughing and things there's like there's resident energetic things going on there and in the ancient world they would do things to protect stuff and it's the same thing there hopefully it's an anti-zai hawas you know filter but right exactly but but I mean I mean I'll he you know again talk about somebody who's a puppet in place to talk about that right yeah yeah talk about beating a dead horse yeah that's that's hard
to even listen to his results well I mean there he's been doing it for a long time yeah well I mean a some day maybe he'll read just on book because he seems to think everything's in there that's that's not but okay so but he is um he was and he was put through school by the Edgar casey institute and all he does is crap all over them now right yeah and they're the ones that talk about the Hall of Records being at the Sphinx and that's also what Trevor was following as far as Pedro's negris and um there's a sanote there that um this is this is the synchronicity thing I was talking about when I sat next to the seam haram in the other one so the sanote there's like grand it's huge it's terrifying to look at it it's so big it's this hole goes straight down right and it's the jungle so stuff's growing out of it so you can't just climb down because it's it's almost impervious and but it's not Trevor's lawyer guy figured out who's going to get us down there so we'll see I mean because when I go there I'm barefoot because I'm dousing if you know
for stuff and man army ants so red ants the poisonous snakes the scorpions the whatever and I'm just having to like make peace with the jungle like please just because you can't get metavact out of there you just no way to get you out you can't land anything and I don't want to screw up the whole thing you know the whole expedition mark of a god oh has a film coming out about it anyway let me get back to cut to the chase I so I return home I'm at LAX I get in an Uber on the way home talk to the Uber driver and uh or you been oh I was just in the middle of the jungle oh where Pedro Sneggers oh I grew up there I'm like what how did how could you like what I didn't see any any humans anywhere right we're in the middle of nothing and he goes and I tell him about the cenote he goes oh yeah I've been down to the bottom of you know like boys you know do crazy shit right so he he said there's mammoth bones at the bottom of the cenote I was like the lost world and so I mean talk about crazy I mean on the way home from Pedro Sneggers to get into
a Uber driven by a guy who grew up there who's been in the bottom of the cenote that okay when Trevor sees a hole like that he's thinking Egypt and the under the the underground stuff in Egypt is not just in Giza it goes under a lot of the whole country and yeah and so the problem is is that like Philippos technology works as good there as it does in Guatemala or Australia or other places so what probably will happen over the next couple of years is doing other places where we can actually go and show that it's working so that it embarrasses the Egyptians enough so that they you know you can prove it in other places whereas like they won't let you could obviously need ships right but it'll prove that hey if it's proven these other places that means the Egypt stuff was real as well right well it's just like a national security ban on the scans that team acres did for 10 years right he's dead now but luckily we we have that that tape that just leaked a couple
days ago and if you see it go halfway through because it switches from like a SLR and the audio was not as good and then about halfway through switches to an iPhone 6 and it's it's closer and anyway it's the same thing it's just it's twice in a row from both cameras and you can see he's he's got the projector up and he's pointing things out to it and again his technology is also slices and it's good to have the guy there explaining because both the people he's explaining it to were you know we're an engineer and so they're going what's that black spot or what does that mean or what is this and you know he could and he was very very very technical and you can yeah yeah but Bay has a British accent and along with the the first camera the microphone was very close and so it was hard to hear but on the second one you know it's been improved and if you pay attention to that there's so many mysteries to do with that place I mean you know because
number one it's sealed in number two that that pyramids cover with mud bricks right and it was written about as being completely carved with amazing stuff and I've been there and seen fragments and the fragments you see are beautiful like like not crude the carve like old old old stuff and it's like something really it's like elephantine island looks like something blew up you know and the little pieces you find are just stunning and amazing wow so so anyway Tyler you let us get completely off the subject I love you're not not really I mean he asked you about the pyramids are scans you know I was wanted you to go into all that because that's I mean that's I don't think a lot people realize how huge that is right yeah and I was just teasing I was just teasing Tyler yeah you were doing a good job I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a tough cat to to ham in because I go off you just go which is amazing but I got a rating yeah well yeah I mean I was in Egypt a couple
years ago or no not a couple years ago last year last year yeah yeah last it seems like a couple years ago right anyway the the scans that those scans this show the columns were go literally went viral the day we got the Egypt like it was the craziest thing and the entire the entire internet exploded about Egypt right like you couldn't open your phone and not see these on X Instagram Facebook it didn't matter YouTube and so we're there in Egypt we're going to the pyramids and crickets not a soul and even knows about it there nobody was talking about it we asked our guide he asked the people he knew not a clue what we were talking about and when he did finally get to to somebody who might know they said oh that's that's nonsense you know that's been debunked or whatever anyway so the whole world you're in it well it was so interesting to see because I would have just assumed if I was at home looking at the stuff online that there's this whole
big site this expedition everybody's in Egypt trying to figure this out but literally it was crickets in fact there was no one in the Geese plateau I felt like I could just walked anywhere they were just really interesting and to see that dichotomy of you know how the internet how something can go viral and then virtually on the site absolutely nothing is happening and nobody even believes in it or talks about it so that shows you the power of the internet and the power of how something could go viral and share information that would otherwise never be known you know but I just found that fascinating I'm like really like you couldn't even find somebody that knew about like it's almost like they didn't have the internet so this is this is this is in my book and this is a really good example Tyler because you're I was on Easter Island when this happened at which the internet there's like a more of an idea than it is a reality right so so I'm seeing like before this like years before this I the first time I met Trevor Grossi where in the he's showing
me a video I mean he's showing me William Brown's scans GPR scans ground pentering radar scans that nobody knew about that because he had been hired by Zahee to lower the water table he's a civil engineer on the Geese plate also they could get down the Osiris shaft and so he's got GPR there and he's kind of just using it some places right and so he had some scans that nobody had seen and then they be not many people know this but before the Coffrey scans came out they had scans of the great pyramid and you can see them and it shows all of these chambers inside the great pyramid that still have not been one of them they they've found since they they've opened up systems I'm not going to say found because they know it's there Mcdonalds is putting value back on the menu whether you're craving a big Mac Mcnuggets or sausage egg and cheese McGrittle's make it a meal and save your favorite is now your wallet's favorite two extra value meals are back Sun rises prices
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it and they show you this blurry thing over the over the grand gallery Beyondy's got it like mapped perfectly right this is when Christopher Dunn sees it and goes this is exactly what I predicted you need to have a wave guide if it was a microwave generating you know machine anyway so I got Trevor had Philippos scan and he had William Brown scans William Browns had been done 10 or 15 years earlier neither man had seen each other's work right um Philippos scans showed the same underground chambers that William Browns had that no one had seen either right and puts them over top of each other and they line up so this is 2022 like I already knew Philippos stuff was for real because here we what better scientific proof do you have two different methods two different people that don't know each other on the same site so now I'm an Easter island at this point um I'm I'm in the whole world of um of this of this technology and stuff and
I see them just getting shit on by everybody it's like and and just be a nasty about it too right oh this is bullshit you know flint dibble right and go on and then Zahee's on there oh I took to my experts and this and I was I was so infuriated you know this actually really I think is probably what what made this book happen because just so much of this stuff and me seeing it in front of my eyes just the way you guys are talking about you're there you're you're seeing it and you're going what's going on nobody's talking about this nobody's investigating it nobody's looking any further and if and when you look into even if you did nothing other than look at the credentials of Philippo beyond it you would like go whoa this guy knows what he's talking about right so it's a it's a uh uh one of those things I I know more than I say kind of a thing because at the time uh Trevor was putting William Brown in touch with Philippo Beyonde to let him know it was a proof
for their stuff and it wasn't he wasn't being public about it the the coffee scans hadn't come out yet and uh so I end up you know I made a coloring book for Matt Beal because you know he he uh flies Philippo Beyonde all the way over does a show with him politely interviews him and then afterwards for no reason like like okay let's say we we do this show in the tomorrow um you guys make a statement about you know some kind of shitty thing you say about me right well you could have said to my face right now right basically he said you know well I'm not going to be funding you know that right well he funds Zahee's you know scan pyramids that took 10 years and nobody saw until Beyonde's came out and then we see a blurry chamber right and so if he has Zahee over he does a nice polite interview with Zahee who's a criminal he like it's been busted for selling antiquities we know he's a liar he says this and then he says that it's all there
proven liar yeah a lot of Egyptians are really embarrassed of him you know and and and yet he shits all over you know Philippo Beyonde who's like the dude's like Christ you know when you get to know him like okay so I had a private call between Trevor and I and Philippo because we're working on is getting him more computing power because that's the throttling thing right now there's so much in the world that we can use this technology on but um it was he's got computers in his garage that he paid for it right and so I know from music you know I and I uh by the best most massive beast computer and I'm still in two minutes I'm out of power right and so I know that it's your software the way your software is written and how it uses you know the threads and and the the memory and all that stuff that's important I said okay I need to know what are using for software and I'll sign NDAs or whatever so I got to find out what he was using and I was like oh it's this old lab software that you know was written how many years ago it's using like one core you could have it
in like a hyper threading multi-core system and it's going to use one core right so when I saw him in Italy a couple months ago for this second sphinx they had written rewritten everything from the ground up at C++ and now something that would take months can be done in a couple hours you know because it's making it taking advantage of that but um so it's going to it's non invasive it's not going to hurt anything and uh like we I will tell you there's a second sphinx you know and all the drawings and all the mesh all the stuff is up there that's what it looks like I was really excited because I thought that the diagnostics might not have gotten to it and I wanted to see the differences um but but I was like oh it's a human head looks like it's a male head um it had the same Fibonacci kind of geometry as the Mona Lisa's face which is interesting because the Italians they were like into that they were like oh like Michelangelo right and um but it looks like beefy compared to the current speaks this thing seems like it's anorexia you know because very
is worn and been re-carved and everything but had the headdress and everything but I think that the diagnostics were able to get to it so they might have re-carved it but it still had the it still was very um solid it didn't look like it had been carved down right you know I'm saying yeah yeah yeah well Frank this has been a very incredibly interesting I mean we covered a lot and I just want to remind everybody to go and check out your book Cracking Saving Civilization Cracking Open Reality beyond the mainstream veil it's available on Amazon in fact I did not and I apologize I believe I forgot to put that link in the description but I will definitely add it well we'll get that yeah we'll get that in there right away and um yeah thank you so much for coming on enjoying us today yes is there any final words anything you'd like to leave us with before we wrap this up or let people know how they can follow you well you could find me in mortals of earth but
I really want to mention this conference that we've got coming up in Mac and all there are so many first happening where and I went to a lot of trouble to bring a lot of these artifacts from Mexico and I've got the scientist Trevor Hawk is going to give me some some private everybody's giving really amazing good stuff at this conference and I feel so blessed that they're not just giving their their normal presentation you know and they're all looking at this as being something very special and we're we have a place for a sky watch that it's one of the darkest skies I've ever seen is like being in the middle of the desert and um we did it the other night it was like the whole sky was like undulating with like plasma it was crazy so I mean when I get you know JP and Emory and and and people there I'm really looking forward to that but you know if yes she was handwriting Jesus is handwriting you know we're going to be seeing that knowing the story the Knights Templar documents about talking about extraterrestrials where this a lot of this
conversation comes back to like who's running things what's going on and this is going back to ancient documents talking I mean actually every ancient religion every ancient writing is talking about these beings but you know we're we think this their stories and fables but this is one of the most important things that we can do right now is awaken to the fact that we are um we are a product of them we've been controlled by them we're fed on by them but we also have our own agency and it's time for us to take it back so mortals of earth um disclosure and macana you can just search for disclosure and macana come see me or come see it online um it's it's gonna be say the date again August 31st September 1st and 2nd it's just a couple weeks away now he's speaking there as well Aaron will be speaking there as well mortals avert.com we'll have all that information in the description and uh yeah thank you so much Frank this is your wealth of information the books incredible thank you so much for coming on and sharing everything that you have today the book is amazing everyone
get his book it's so good seriously I can't say enough good about it it's so good I read the title but it really should just be called the book of everything or the red pill book of everything it's it's right any book was was one massive red pill in in a book it's your book and like I say that I mean that like it it is the perfect red pill book in my opinion but it covers it simultaneously covers like everything but does it in a way that's not overwhelming and engages you the whole time and is super powerful the whole time there was like I would expect a book that big to have like long stretches of like dry boring you know and it is not none of that it's like so engaging the whole time and so powerful yeah so well done man like it's it's so good and everyone it seems if somebody is waking up and they are a reader there would be a book to give them and I just you know it's not like you said it's not overwhelming but when you it really does showcase how overwhelming
the the control and suppression has been right but how amazing reality really is right exactly and how you know much is really going on and how connected it all is you know how everything is to each other right so yeah go to amazon grab his book saving civilization cracking open reality beyond the mainstream veil frank rogala and go check out mortals of earth.com grab a ticket to disclosure and mechanized coming up here in a few weeks and uh yeah Aaron will be speaking there hopefully we see you guys out there I won't be there but uh you go out and check it out if you're in the area and we'll go ahead and wrap this up thank you so much frank for joining us this evening thank you guys for all for being here in the chat we love you and we could not do this without you we truly appreciate your support every week and until next time have a great evening good night goodnight guys Toyota's easy choice sales event is on whether you're looking for the performance of the
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