9-10-26 Scott with Tim Werth

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3:20And we'll see how it sells the prices about to make your wallet full too. Maybe we'll get that $5,000 check. The President promised last night. If Apple's leading into this, that means you're going to get a foldable phone whether you like it or not. Tim Worth is here to break it down for us. He's a tech expert over at CNET, our friends at CNET and CNET.com. Tim, welcome, Harriet. I'm doing good. You're getting into every bit of that 5K to pay for this thing. I saw it was like 2 grand, right? Yeah, 2 grand. That's actually less expensive than we were anticipating. Well, let's talk about the technology and what it looks like before we pick it apart. Go ahead. Yeah, well, I'll tell you the phone is beautiful. You know, based on the leaks, I was pretty skeptical of the design, but actually seeing it unveiled, I got to admit, I was wrong. I mean, Apple nailed the design, which isn't a surprise. It looks really, really good. It does. It's got a very slick, futuristic design. It's got incredible animations when you open and close it.

4:23The big question, of course, is will people buy it? 2000? Right. I think that's going to be a very tough sell. And a dirt ability question, a bunch of other things as well. Well, I mean, there's no doubt when I think when it comes to the aesthetic, Apple hits it out of the park on like any other company, very few companies like that. I mean, I'm old enough for a member of the early days of the iPod when we had iPods and it wasn't integrated in our phone and you'd pick this thing up and it was about the size of a cell phone. And it had that chrome bat. You wanted to touch it and feel it all the time. You wanted to have it in your hand. It felt sexy, right? And they've translated the phones and everything else. And I would imagine this, this fits the bill. Absolutely. Yeah, we were talking before the release, you know, has Apple kind of lost some of its cool factors been a while since they've had the iPod or something like that. I don't know that this is going to be it just because of the price. But in terms of the design, I mean, it's fantastic. It's really it. I'm dying to try this. Yeah, I did see some polls though, Tim. I don't know if you guys did it or not commissioned it, but a majority of it and because it's new technologies, well, people

5:24are like, yeah, I don't really want a folding phone. How do you convert that that type of sediment to sales? I think it's going to be a niche product. I really do. So I got to say that matches up with my own anecdotal polling when I've told people over the past few months, hey, Apple's coming out with a foldable. The overwhelming reaction has been why? I think that's probably right. It's going to be a product for early adopters for people who really, really, really love technology. But Apple's done the impossible before. So we'll have to see if once it's out in the wild, in people's hands, if that starts building some momentum for it. But like I said, not going to be any of the health decline for Apple. Yeah, because I think too, it feels like there's only something to do with the cell phone, right? And we've seen the flip phones before. I remember back in the day, I had a flip phone, I had other phones and it's just the latest incarnation of that. And okay, we've got to sell products. And hey, if we invent a cooler look in

6:26phone, it folds up. Maybe that moves the needle a little bit, but it seems to me like the cell phone that most people have works just fine. Yeah, I will say I've been testing foldables from other companies from Samsung, from Motorola. It is really nice having that huge display. So when you unfold it, it's basically the size of a tablet. But when you unfold it, it can actually fit in your pocket, which a lot of phones don't do any more. Oh, I will say once you actually try these foldables out, you might say, how I get it? Okay. I feel you feel. Yeah, I mean, if you're just sitting there, you do want to open it up, probably get a little bit more work done. I get that appeal of the foldable phone. And that's a great point too, Tim worth from seeing that is that this isn't anything new. We've have, you know, I know Motorola has one, Samsung has one, a bunch of other companies have foldable phones that they're not, you know, certainly not like what Apple's about to do here. But, you know, once you hear that, you go, okay, Apple is the, now I guess maybe one of the biggest brands to do with the biggest brand to do it. Now the sudden it feels like, well, maybe we're moving

7:27towards foldable phones, whether you like it or not. Yeah, I think that's a fairest that's, man, like I said, I don't know anyone who is really clamoring for this outside of, you know, the tech world where people are, you know, really into whatever the shiny new thing is. But again, it's Apple, they've done the impossible, but don't mind being late to the party, you know, they didn't invest the first MP3 player. They came in late with the iPod, and then that was the only MP3 player. Right. Right. Right. Don't count Apple out on this one. I don't think I would, but okay. So as far as you need to, you've tested other models before Tim. So how do they work? The function that they hold up that they last are, we worried about that, you know, we know how screens crack now, and that's a thick phone on a thinner phone that folds, you know, the minute you put it in your pocket, you sit down, does it break? How's it work? So they've gotten much more durable and Apple spent a lot of time talking about just how durable the phone was going to be obviously we haven't tested it out yet, but we do have some pretty intense durability tests in mind.

8:27So if you are on the fence, but maybe wait and see what the earlier reviews say regarding durability. But Apple says one of the reasons they waited longer to release this is because they wanted to make sure it wouldn't fall apart in your pocket. So I will say the foldable's been out for a while, the designs have gotten much, much better. They don't fall apart like they used to. That crease isn't super obvious in the middle of the phone, but yeah, we'll want to test this thing out pretty aggressively before rendering a final verdict. Yeah, they just released it yesterday. So it's, you know, it's really no one's hands yet. And I think it comes out, and of October, I believe. October 23rd. That's right. Okay. So relative to the ones that exist right now, you say the Creason hinge feature on the Samsung's and the other phones are okay, it's noticeable, but it's not too bad. How do you think Apple's design compares to that? I think it compares really well. One thing a lot of people don't know is that Apple actually tapped Samsung to make the display.

9:28So Samsung makes the best flexible displays. So it's technically a Samsung made display on Apple. So it should be very comparable with the best foldables out there from other companies. However, Apple has one other advantage. They put a nano texture display, which basically means it's a super fancy premium anti-reflective display, which will make the crease even less visible. So yeah, when you actually look at the phone, when you look at the home screen, it just looks good. It just there's some, you know, videos we have online showing it on display in Apple Park. And like I said, I think Apple really nailed the design. Yeah, I think too. Maybe if you think about it, it's a bigger screen because what a phone essentially has taken over is a television set. Let's call it what it is. You know, certainly you can work and text and, you know, scroll social me, but it's all about video watching. It's all about streaming and that. And this is built for it. It feels like, yeah, people are already joking. Actually, the similar aspect ratio to the iMac screens.

10:31Of course, people are joking. Oh, we can watch the obviously on it, you know, just the way crystal and intended for gaming, streaming for YouTube. There are real benefits to a phone. But you just have a bigger display. You can do more. You can be watching a YouTube video and have your text messages up at the same time. So there's just more you can do with it. There's no way to use it. Yeah, it's a little bigger screen. So Tim Worth is here. He's with our friends at CNET and CNET.com and was first to see the new Apple foldable phone. That's right. Apple's leaning into the foldable game just announced yesterday. And other companies have done it. And to I don't know, maybe a little success, the pushback is most people like, yeah, I'm good. And this thing is going to cost $2,000 when it comes out on the 23rd. You get the early adopters. It drops a price. So million questions about this and that if Apple's leaning and other companies are doing it, is that what our phone is going to look like in the coming years? And why can I just keep my old phones as every old person ever? I also heard that they got rid of Face ID and touch ID on this, is that true? So there is touch ID instead of Face ID. There's also an under display

11:38camera for FaceTime, which is a very unique feature you won't see on other foldables. Yeah, there's some changeups to the usual Apple phone. One thing I'll say, this isn't a good year to actually not buy a phone at all. Your price is just across the board. I've gotten a little bit out of control. So if you have a phone, if you like it, hold on to it. There's no reason to can't last many, many years. So I think the foldables are going to be slowly picking up steam in the years ahead. But unless you just have to have the newest possible thing, you can hold on your phone. That's fine. Yeah, I'm that guy. I wait for other people to spend $2,000. Go this sucks. And then I wait for the version that actually works. I know that's not what your job entails, but my job entails that for sure. How much of this in the cost of saying is people too grand for a phone or are you kidding me? How much of that is the phone and the technology? How much is that the fact that we have this memory chip shortage is pushing up prices for all phones? Yeah, I think Apple is actually eating some of that cost. That's what the reports are saying. So

12:42like I said, $2,000 is actually less than we were expecting. I think we saw a $100 price increase on the other phones, Apple and out, but similar to what other manufacturers and brands have done in terms of price increases. So I do think Apple is just eating some of the costs from the memory crisis. It's just because people are so tired of these price increases. But you know, more bad news on that front. All the experts I've talked to have said the memory crisis will get worse before it gets better. So unfortunately prices aren't likely to come down later this year or even next year. So yeah, unfortunately, price increases are here to save for a while. And again, what's driving up the memory chip shortage? It's the artificial intelligence industry. They're pulling out, you know, it's a trillion dollar roll out of new data centers and AI infrastructure. And they're using all the memory and RAM components that go into phones, laptops, gaming consoles. So yeah, it's just the blind demand. The AI industry is talking all the memory. Yeah, well, I don't know, fun about phone now

13:45because AI is going to kill us. I'm sure you saw that story. We're going to die in the next three years. So I want to drop two grand on the phone. I'm not going to be able to use it. Yeah, I was when AI companies tell you, you know, this is going to kill us. They're not for marketing pitch. They're trying to sell their technology just like Apple's trying to go. Sure. Sure. Only with fear and fear is never boring as a reason to say, but it's also very, very true that it does move the needle. I noticed too, in addition, it's going, wow, we got the $2,000 phone, but they just bumped the price up on the iPhone 18 Pro and Pro Max went up like $102 each. So it's not like, you know, there's it may be a cheaper alternative. And maybe that's part of it because only what I think 2% of the market has a foldable phone or we'll have a foldable phone, Tim in this regard. And so you go like, wow, we can throw you a $2,000 will blind you. And meanwhile, we're jacking the price up on the other phones too. Yeah, I mean, like, like I mentioned, all phones are getting more expensive right now. It really is a good year, not to buy a phone. Just sit on that out there. Just sit on the buy, refresh tone. That's also a good option. So,

14:48you know, I'm tempting as these phones are for people who love technology. Yeah. If you are on the fence, you know, maybe just stay there. Here's a good question for you because every time I get a new iPhone, I got to buy new chargers. I got a boot and I do new charging cable. Have they changed that? So your old chargers will still work on the device. That saves some money there. Seems like every time Apple rolls out a new phone, it's like, wait, my cord doesn't work. I got to go buy new cords. No, yeah. Fortunately, fortunately, you're safe. Yeah. Okay. Very good. Also, probably the big question would be, all right, bigger screen. What's the battery life situation? Yeah. We will need to test it out properly, but Apple emphasized this phone has a massive battery. You could put because the phone is larger, you can actually fit more battery cells in it. Oh, we don't anticipate battery life being a problem unless you're, you know, streaming the Odyssey and 4K all day long. You should be happy with the battery life. So then what about the wait? How's it compared to a typical iPhone?

15:50Yeah. It is on the heavier side, especially for a foldable. It's about 254 grams that is heavier, it's in other foldables from other brands, but the people who've been, you know, testing it out at Apple headquarters say it feels great in the hand. Very well-balanced, you know, so I don't think it'll be fatiguing your hand or anything like that. It should be, you know, comparable to what you're used to. You're also going to be using the phone with two hands a lot of the time. So better make a difference as well. Yeah, and I think it is a standard iPhone or like a Mac, I think it's around 240 grams as it is. So it's really not that much more. Exactly. Yeah. It shouldn't be a radical departure. Yeah. You think maybe that made the future is the lighter phone because you know, when you have your phone on you, you're like, wow, you can feel it in your back pocket or you know, you got to carry it in your hand and have a little pop-up bubble on the back just to hold that thing. You think that might be after we get the experiment of foldable phones and the like that we start to reduce size. Are we to point now where the microchips can't get any smaller? I think you're spot on. We're actually already seeing a trend towards what they call dumb phones or light phones. So these are devices that don't

16:56have any apps whatsoever. They don't have a camera. So that is in fact the newest trend is how do we make phones simpler, smaller and just a little bit less addictive. Yeah, it's fun. I've got a buddy and is not even 40 yet. And he has, he went that way. He's like, listen, I don't need social media. I don't need TikTok and an Insta. I don't need Facebook. What I need is a bill to make phone calls and text people and get email. That's all I need, which is cool. Yeah. And you can get those phones. They're also a lot cheaper. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A battery life and everything else as well. So yeah. And if you did it with that, too, my wife would absolutely kill herself because she spends more time playing Candy Crush and TikTok. Spent time on TikTok like she's 14 years old. It's incredible. Yeah. I think we all will be speaking for myself. I also spend a little too much time on on TikTok. So it's something I'm trying to be better at. All right. Final point here, too. This is the first, you know, the app, what do you call the Apple convention, the where they rolled out their product line, first product of then, I guess, since Tim Cook

17:58stepped down for the new CEO. That's right. So the new CEO, John Turneth, this was his chance to take center stage. You know, everyone is wondering what he's going to do differently, right? So John Turneth is a hardware guy. He's designed, you know, he's in the engineering department. A lot of us are hoping he'll take a more like, he's jobs like approach to, you know, his vision for the company. So that that yesterday was definitely really interesting. There wasn't a huge departure from the like Tim Cook did things, but remember, it takes years to design these products. So I think it'll be a while before we really see what he's going to do differently at Apple. But then there's a high bar. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It'll be interesting to see what he does. All right. Well, rolling out foldable phones is definitely a good first statement. Tim Orther is a scene at his tech expert there at CNET.com or go to tech source here on the scouts phone show. All the best Tim. Thanks for jumping on. You're welcome. I don't know if I honestly like watching, looking at the foldable phone. I mean, if you spend a lot of your time watching video, I suppose, which is some of us face it

19:01for a lot of people, that's mainly the phone. It's entertainment. Some of communication, but largely social media and streaming video, you get a little bit bigger screen, you know, when you watch that person walking their dog watching the Bengals game on their phone, maybe that's the phone. You want to walk your dog with and watch, I guess, but I just I don't know how big this thing's going to catch on. But Apple's leaning into it for sure as other companies have and Apple always comes in like he said last minute, going, okay, now we've learned from everybody else. Now we're going to do it our way and usually it turns out to be pretty cool. But I don't know, man, two grand for a phone. I'm out. How about you? Two grand. Let me sweat all the time about that thing. Mead of my pocket. I'd have to have a, I have to be the typical old man. I would definitely for two grand. I'd have a two thousand out of phone. I would definitely jump to the dark side and become officially old and get the cell phone holster. You know, you're old when you got the cell phone holster. You got the, you know, the wide brimmed crocodile, then the hat and then on your right hip, you've got the holster. Gotta have the holster for this thing. It should automatically ship with the holster.

20:04Like a cowboy gunslinger whipping that phone out. So, you know when you're old when you got the holster? It's your time, baby. Scott Sloan show 700 WLW. I survived nine months in captivity and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files. Every week I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable, abducted, stalked, controlled and nearly silenced. These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with the Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're a bookshelf and you're a for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. Each week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet and pop culture

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22:10And this month we're helping you make sense of the person that you are becoming from setting boundaries and navigating friendships to understanding anxiety, confidence, relationships and attachment. Sometimes our biggest decisions without us even realizing it aren't driven by what we truly want, but by what will prevent us from feeling lonely or being alone. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So like by a user rather than or so at least 70% have a phone. I'm Dr. Joy and this is therapy for black girls. We spend our surviving middle school run getting into what's happening inside your kids' brain. The group chat and their friendships and what you can do about it. Your child is not doing this on purpose. That's the kind of perspective we've been pulling from the psychologists and psychiatrists who study this for living. Listen to therapy for black girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.