9-10-26 Willie with Steve Goodin

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3:16So we'll see what happens in Red's baseball and they have three in Milwaukee and then they come back home and they go against the Dodgers and the Cubs and the 76 Reds are going to be reformed and no playing a couple of times and let's see what happens. But until then coming up later will be an expert on Iran and Iraq. There's a country song by Alan Jackson in which he says most Americans can't spell Iran but somehow once we get we are what we are entwined with the hate in the Middle East. Joining you and I now Steve Gooden, former council member also an eminent attorney before we talk about all the problems at Clifton. There was a country song by the great Alan Jackson sensory tired about Americans can't spell Iran or Iraq. I think we can spell it you and I can spell it. But can you justify what the Trumpster has been doing the past six months and if we simply leave with the Muslims the Arabs to simply begin killing themselves which they've done

4:17for centuries and they don't have us to kill anymore. Yeah, I think that's about right. I mean look, I mean I don't get this one. You know, I mean look, I try to get the person that every bit of the doubt but this is one where we have passed on Iran and invading Iran and fighting with them many, many, many times. There's like about 90 million people there. It's roughly the size of two Texas. It's not like Iraq where we went into a very weak military and a very centralized government knocked it off and I think this idea that these youth in Iran are going to rise up and support us which is always part of it. I mean that's in myth too. I mean I know they got some pretty girls there who want to wear blue jeans and stuff and that's great but every time they rise up and protest they get killed and that's what we're dealing with there. They have straight of hormones and the ability to really like really, really impact not just oil but our fertilizers and all kinds of things that we need and buy here. So you know what's a terrible thing.

5:17So I hope they got a plan. I hope there's something they know that we don't know that probably is but in the short term the idea that they were just going to bomb them into surrendering which is what Lindsey Graham kind of said in his last interview before he died. That's never worked. They're too big. There's too many of them and it's and they're too dug in. We're not going to land troops and take Tehran like we bagged dead. We're not going to do that because politically that would be suicide. And so what we have to do is bomb them back to the Stone Age and say we want to come home. Now whatever happens happens and that's what should happen but it won't happen. And let's talk about what's happening now in city council. You have many years spent there in council and now when Clifton business owners say to me and Tony Bender my producer we're losing our asses. Not the way to conduct business. Why can't the police do their job arrest the wrongdoers lock them up have judges out with sentences armed thugs to prison and open up the businesses.

6:18Am I missing something here? No, you're not. I mean it's just that the chickens are finally coming home to roost in a part of the city where you know which has always been very sympathetic to the democratic council members. Yeah, when you're having people in Clifton whether it be up at UC or in the Clifton gaslight where you're here in complaints for businesses too. Well you're hearing those leftists saying that this is gone too far. It's really really really gone too far. I mean we've had a horrific opening week or two weeks at UC. It's the biggest freshman class they've ever brought in. I mean you know Pinto or the president up there has these grand plans to make UC as big as OSU. They're on their way. They're building new housing. What they haven't corrected for is the fact that we have a woefully understaffed police department and we have the neighborhoods that Clifton and Buds are still have rampant drug dealing violence. Young kids running around with guns and where they have no plan, no safety plan, no nothing and we have a complete lack of police officers to actually do the kind of proactive policing

7:22that will be required to kind of deal with it. So what they're doing is they're shutting down whole street. Yeah, you can't come here. The problem is, yeah, you just say so it is one. It is a solution. I'll give them credit for that. It is one. It is a response. It is not a whole year rational. The problem are you have all these mom and pop businesses that are along those areas, particularly streets like Calvue and that are dependent upon upon the student business and who don't do a lot in the summer and here they come back in August, September, study to serve their fast food and draft beer and all the things that they do to make a living there and they literally have their street shut down. And I've been seeing on social media some of these places have to close down by 9, 10 o'clock and anyone in that in those student businesses will tell you you do your business is your majority of your business late at night. So it's been brutal. So they're caught in the middle of this as well. You know, the cynical farming was to shake and grab skies. You voted for this.

8:23People have been telling you this for years, but it really is just a check is coming home to roost and it's unfortunate that it's happening there in Clifton. And I never thought I'd see a day where there would be petitions from parents to the president of the university and city council telling them we need more police on the ground here. We are worried about our kids, particularly these freshmen who are coming in 18, 19 years old and really are just kind of sitting ducks for the stands. The other thing I had Ken Cobra on yesterday, the head of the FOP. These coppers are working 60 to 80 hours a week each. And when an officer goes to work, it takes about an hour to suit up. You got to put all the stuff on. Takes about an hour to take the suits off and then to calm down a little bit and they're working 60 to 80 hours a week. All of them are making north of $100,000 a year, some $150,000 a year being a cop. And that's good. But at some point you say, I got my mental and my physical health to worry about. We need three to 500 more cops hired immediately.

9:23They have a recruit class going. You have to bring in 50 to 70 new cops every year just to break even with those retiring on the other side, which they're not bringing in 50 to 70 a year. So the thin blue line is cracking. It's breaking and they cannot keep doing this. The Sheriff's Department is also overwhelmed. They mainly have patrol duties in the townships, etc. So you don't see the black shirts in Clifton. You always see only CPD. And there's no sense on City Council. Scotty Johnson, he is a lucid moment every now and then. He said, well, we're going to have a big powwow yesterday and he's now, let's wait a little bit longer until I guess you see he's got it some more home games. Basketball is about to start and the businesses are dying. We're telling the world that the police and City Council can't handle a couple hundred thugs with guns. One of arresting them, Bill Balecheck would say, Steve Gooden, three words, do your job. Just do your job. Arrest the wrongdoers.

10:23Find out who they are. Take them off the streets and pray to God and room A. You have a judge down there like Judge Dinkalocker who's going to give them a high bond for having guns and lock them up. What's wrong with that approach? Well, nothing. God bless just Dinkalocker, but we know it's even worse than that. I mean, one of the things that kind of broke out on social media this week is, so someone late from the 2020 Auburn building, which is the juvenile jail, which is where a lot of these folks should be held. Someone leaked a list of charges that the judges have said, do not hold these peep kids, do not even give them a bond just send them home. So there's like a no bond list and it includes some pretty nasty stuff. A lot of misdemeanors, possession of criminal tools, you know, people who might be on the budget, you know, I involved in a burglary thing, so that nature. So one of that juvenile jail is a huge source of frustration for police officers. King Cobal will tell you that, you know, the prosecutors will tell you that when they're allowed to.

11:23It is a truly catching release type situation. There's no consequence for these young offenders. They're back on the street literally within a matter of hours. They're literally just, you know, side of piece of paper and say, hey, we won't do anything bad until our court cases are. And they're right back on the street. So it's not even just the setting of low bonds. It is that in the juvenile court system, they're not holding anybody. They're being told, you know, you know, you often bonds are an issue with juvenile court to you. Hold them or you don't. They are being given the magistrate or being given explicit directions not to hold the majority of kids on the majority of the fences. And you can see that on the street too. And I mean, look, it turns up police staffing. We have the same, we've actually fewer police than we had in 2005. We had roughly 20,000 fewer people living in the city. And plus we now we have all these extra students, all these new retractions. This is a, you know, with the ballpark and the new ballpark and the TQL and the stadium, all this stuff. So it's just common sense that we need at least 300 more police officers, maybe more,

12:28but in a more robust relationship with the sheriff's department. And none of that's happening because that's not a politically popular thing to say to the city. In the mayor and the council numbers are cowtowing to a very small group of people in the city who are very progressive, very anti law enforcement. They got iris roley working right there in city hall harassing police officers while being paid by the city. It's a huge morale issue. So you had iris roley plus staffing, you know, plus the juvenile court policies. And who wants to be a cop enough sir? None. Judge Kerry Bloom, a Uber leftist. She's a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. She's in charge of juvenile court. And she does not think kids use their word kids. 17 year olds who commit serious crimes should be held accountable. And that's her philosophy. And she's running for reelection. And I'll bet you a hot fudge Sunday or a three way skyline there in in clifton that she's going to easily win because the Democratic voter will march up to the polling places and

13:30pull the blue ticket. And you're like a city voter, including Ben on a city council. What's the sense of the Democratic voter in the city when there's mayhem, when there's rioting, when there's bars downtown OTR that have to have 20 police units out in front, when you see and pill hill should be the shining city on the hill for us, all the investments by Christ hospital and you see and good Samaritan, et cetera. There are thousands and thousands along with I guess about 45,000 students that you see. And the voters seemingly don't care. Can you tell me why? Well, I think I can. I talk to these people. I live amongst the leftists. Okay. And when they will deem to talk to me after they call me a fascist and so forth and once we get past that, you know, what they say is the same thing. Yeah. But it's the same thing every time which is they agree 100% that the city is doing a terrible job on all these things.

14:30You know, they are critical folks like Carrie Bloom, the critical of the mayor in small settings, but then when they go to the polls, they are going to go out. They don't vote for local elections. They're going because they're fired up about Donald Trump. They're fired up about the Amy Acton, whatever it is. And they get that blue slate and they vote right down it. And they, I had one of my neighbors told me once that she was always afraid to vote accidentally for someone who might support Donald Trump in some way or be on the other side. She was afraid. So that's why she didn't beer off the slate at all. So I mean, that's what happens to slate voting. It's very disciplined. But then you do have people in the Democratic Party who feel that people like you and I are wrongfully attacking people like Judge Carrie Bloom. I think that that's it's to be asking these questions and to be calling out the stuff that that's unfair somehow really. Hey, what about the kids and why do you want to give these kids record? You know, what about the children?

15:31The dead children don't matter. But the children, you know, the other children are there and they're right. A lot of these kids are coming from horrible situations. That's true, but just letting them go and do more crime doesn't help them or anyone else. Lastly, Steve, good. And that's now a movement on City Council to extend the streetcar, which I thought, you know, it began 10 years ago, almost this day. And City Council members are talking about extending the streetcar uphill, uphill, out Mount Auburn into UC, maybe take it south, go into Covington, Newport, loop around independence, maybe go a little south of Frankfurt, come back up through Louisville and bring it back up in a sense and I then in a Columbus. And I'm thinking number one, the inquiry to this big study that seemed to indicate the promises to the streetcar have not been met. By the way, it's free. We spent almost $180 million on the streetcar. It's free. And no one paid for that except 180 million. And it's all free to ride. And it goes in areas according to the experts that people don't want to go. And it goes from Finley Market, basically downtown to the banks and back. That's about it. And it's kind of like an amusement ride.

16:32Joe Dieter said the time said it would be a homeless encampment. Many parts of the day it is. And there were like, Vella Raptor is waiting for the tourist to come by. Yes, that's true too. And so if can you address whether or not Tony Bender wants to know if all that money from the so-called railroad can be used for the streetcar. And what they do it because we can't get potholes fixed. We can't get the westerners' viaduct fixed with that money. But we want to spend the money on streetcars that don't work. You know what I'm saying? Well, the streetcar was number one was a total disgrace. I was one of the people out there saying like, of all the needs that we had in the city at the time, then and now, nearly $200 million on the streetcar is absurd. I mean, it is an amenity. It is a street. It is a, it is true. It isn't like an amusement park ride. It isn't an amusement park ride. It's like the old Monorail at King's Island. You know, I can't do that. You can get on. Yeah, it's ridiculous. And it's just something. It's a feel good thing. It doesn't get any, it's not public transit. It's just absurd. But the idea that they might try to somehow read that railroad trust for that.

17:35I mean, that's a very predictable thing. I predict that there's already people trying to lawyers trying to carve up to see whether or not that counts as quote, existing infrastructure, which is what they're you know, whenever one, when people voted for that railroad thing, I did not, but when people did, who did vote for it, you know, they sold it to the citizen saying, we're going to repair existing infrastructure, which we all thought existing infrastructure meant potholes. Now, existing infrastructure, it seems like can mean anything, you know, in the street car, I guess, is infrastructure. So get ready for some of your tax dollars or an effort anyway to be made to spend some of your harder tax dollars and the sale of that railroad on the expanding the spoon dollar remains a boom dog. Well, it is never made a dollar. It is subsidized by charities now largely in trusts. It is money loser. It is just a goofy thing. But there are people who look at it with like an almost religious fervor that it is somehow unbelievable. It is elevated our city in some way. Yes. And I don't know what they're smoking, but it's crazy. No printing on the side of those cigarettes.

18:36All I can say is city council. And if you keep getting elected by wide margins, I think this time, I have to have Piroval, a great director of F Tabestan, got 80% of the vote. So if you're F Tabestan and you got 80% of the vote, you're thinking, I'm doing exactly what the people want me to do. I'll give them more of the same. And that's sad, but Steve Gooden, we got to run and I was going to ask you briefly, can you give me a minute on where you were on 9-11-01 and how'd you find out about the 846 murders taking place at the World Trade Center? Good. I'll show you. I remember it very distinctly. I was a young prosecutor doing a bind over case in front of Judge Sylvia Hendon when her bailiff walked in and said, hey, there's something happened here. We need to take a break. And we all went back into her chambers and turned on her television and watched it right there. And I was like, it was an absolutely chilling moment. I remember it with, we remember it just like it was yesterday. And I remember we wrapped up our business and went home and just sat in front of the

19:37television for the whole day and tried to understand it. Our number, my wife at the time being eight months pregnant with her, my first child or her first child and just thinking, you know, what is this world going to be? And I was a reservist at the time. So I also figured my life was about to change and it sure did. Steve Gooden. I'm going about two years. Steve Gooden, thank you very much. We'll talk again on that. But it's unfortunate you weren't elected to council. The people have since now to get with A.D. Zerv. And they certainly are getting it. Good and hard. I kind of like that kind of talk. But Steve Gooden, thank you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham show. Thank you, Steve. I'll just continue with more. You get the government they deserve. On News Radio 700, W.U. Auto. I survived nine months in captivity and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files. Every week I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. Abducted, stalked, controlled and nearly silenced.

20:40These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're a bookshelf and you're a for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. Each week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet and pop culture. With your favorite writers, book talk creators and plenty of overthought opinions. Yeah, I'm obsessed. Listen to pro society on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman, Angel Jaretana, Jeremy Colhane, Patrick McDonald, and we're the hosts of the artists on artists on artists on artists podcast. The improvised character comedy podcast were each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Join us for a panel of Eurovision participants. And we do a little Halloween sometimes.

21:41Does the Pope dress up? He winks on Halloween. It's right up next to the microphone. I hear you get the elbows here, the eyelashes hit each other. You never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween. Listen to artists on artists on artists on artists every Thursday on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So like by Asia Rather and our soul, at least 70% have a phone. I'm Dr. Joy and this is Therophy for Black Girls. We spend our surviving middle school run getting into what's happening inside your kids' brain, the group chat and their friendships and what you can do about it. Your child is not doing this on purpose. That's the kind of perspective we've been pulling from the psychologists and psychiatrists who study this for living. Listen to Therophy for Black Girls on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Self-care September is your reminder to slow down, check in with yourself, get off your phone and maybe ask why am I like this? I'm Gemis Bay, host of the Psychology of your 20s podcast and this month we're helping

22:44you make sense of the person that you are becoming from setting boundaries and navigating friendships to understanding anxiety, confidence, relationships and attachment. Sometimes our biggest decisions, without us even realizing it, aren't driven by what we truly want but by what will prevent us from feeling lonely or being alone. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.