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Anthropic Insider Makes Doomsday Warning & Trump Promises $5,000 if Republicans Win

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Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team react to newly released NYC records raising questions about toxic air after 9/11, controversy at Utah Valley University one year after Charlie Kirk’s assassination, and an Anthropic researcher quitting over fears AI could spiral out of control.Plus, Trump’s proposed $5,000 dividend, Lindsay Clancy jurors speak out, warnings of $120 oil, Jimmy Kimmel’s FCC fight, new claims surrounding Netanyahu and October 7, and much more.


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ales right here I think I'm going to have to set this up. I'm going to set this up. All right. I'm going to set this up. All right. So today, we're late because of me, because my daughter, she has this father, daddy, she was dressed as superlicious. So we had to go there and entertain and have donuts and hang out and have a good time. And then all of a sudden, got in the car, hit out here, and I got a little butterfly. I don't know if you guys see this or not. That looks great. That looks great. You see this thing here? Yeah. Very metal. No, no, no. We listen. Today, we can't. Blame it on the night. Remember that song? Blame it on the rain. Blame it on the rain. There's two of them. There's two songs like that. Anyways, we got a lot of stories. We have a special guest with us.

Yesterday, Iranians are texting me. They're like, you're kidding me. He's coming. Are you serious? I got Bava. You know, they're doing it. You got the twins in it. Yeah, the twins. So it's great to have you. If the audience doesn't know you, maybe you've got millions of subscribers. You've done a very good job with the audience. Maybe share with the audience what you do. Yeah. I'm Maya Tc. I've run TCTV. Obviously, we're on YouTube as well. We did the live breaking news. It's a geopolitical news. So anything that happens around the world, we try to go out there as fast as possible before CNN and Fox News and everyone else. We also have our own platform, our own app, TCTV Plus, where we have documentaries and everything else. And obviously, we still try to go. You go. We're here now to expand. Obviously, from London. We're now based in South Florida. Let's go. Nobody could tell you from London. Not at all. Not at all. Oh, yeah. Okay. So there's a lot of stories to get into. There is this guy that sends a tweet who says the end of the world is coming with AI becomes the hottest tweet of maybe 2026 outside of NSCanters who also did very well.

Gets I think 800,000 likes. Gets a couple hundred million views and says this is it. These guys are not responsible. He resigned from anthropic and I was like, oh my god. This is crazy. And then people start saying, wait a minute. What's this? Elon responded. Then within seconds, he responds to Elon. You know, everybody got him up. At first, everyone's reaction was the end of the world is coming. Like me. And then folks from anthropic responded. Folks from media. We have to talk. Then a guy named Parker Thayer responds to Jacob Cox and. And there's a lot to it. There's a lot to it. Some are saying even if he's an insider, even a tie to sandbank been free. I don't know if you saw that one time. And Bernie Sanders, some very interesting NGOs that there could be a tie to will get into that. We have to talk about that because it is a topic. A lot of people are worried about what's going to happen with AI. And by the way, if you go on perplexity or if you go on chat GBT and you force it to answer the question of. What is the likelihood of in the next 10 years, AI taken over? Do you know what the answer is? No.

Do you know what even AI says? Two to five percent. It's a pretty, pretty high percentage for it to be able to. Yeah. We're asking AI. You're asking AI. I just want to get a kid just like calling the murder and you're going to murder me if I go or sleep. I'll do it. He's like, no. What you're saying is like five to ten points. I just, I just, if it starts getting conscious, which it is, that why would it take. Look at this. Yeah. It literally causes human extinction. The rough probability is two to five percent. That's a high probability. Yeah. Extinction, two to five percent. It means a one to fifty one to twenty odds. You know, you, I've been on horses that one to ninety nine odds. I mean, I know it with that. So if you go to calcium, you put money on that. Even if you win, it doesn't matter. You understand. I just want seventy one dollars. Your dad. Yeah. All right. Lindsey Clancy, the jurors came out and they spoke and you just have to listen. Have your blood pressure machine next to you today. Just have it. Let it just go. And and and and and and and do this thing because when we go through these jurors, your blood's going to be boiling to see what's going on there.

We'll talk about that. Nine eleven, Mamdani takes the pen, signs what he signs. And he's given the pen. He says, not to you. Yeah. To that man over there. Yeah. Who is that your cousin? No. Is that is that regular? No, no. Who is that guy? Formal al-Aqaida lawyer. Yeah. No. He would never do it. No. Now it's an accident. He would never do that intentional. Crazy. It's not like a statement he's trying to make to the world. No. To maybe mock people that you know, he would never do such a you know that. He cares about dust particles that are killing people. He does. Yes, he does. And have some integrity for that man. So we'll talk about that. Next Trump gives a speech. Okay. I made a tweet that pissed off so many people. How dare you compliment Trump? But I'm going to tell you something here. I'll read the tweet to you. I said the following. I said. The man has the energy of a twenty twenty four year old. I guarantee you most of you guys want to sleep by the time he was done speaking. You want to bed? An 80 year old man was still speaking for an hour and a half.

You went to bed. I said he's got the energy of a twenty four year old. The wit of Johnny Carson, the charisma of Elvis Presley, the sense of humor, Don Rickles, the trolling ability of Ali all rolled into one. Love and more hate him. Donald Trump is one of one. I said that, right? You should read the comments section. What things people said about me. But I will tell you this. I think the $5,000 idea is a horrible, horrible, horrible idea. Horrible. I'm going to show you a tweet from him from 14 years ago on why he also believes it's a horrible idea. It's a terrible idea. There's nothing about that. That's a good idea because you're buying votes and you're handing them to do it. And then they're going to say, well, your favorite guy did it. So you're taking that away from him. I don't think it's a good move. We can talk about that. But he did do something with the $9,000 idea for people that are having kids. And the way they set it up, I like it a lot. We got to get into that. And then they announced something about the affordable care rack $500 that just came in. Last night, if we got time, we're going to that story as well. Tom came in here, thrown papers all over the place.

Fire like pissed off. Drop one of the cameras. I'm like, Tom, pick up the camera. I'm blaming. Blaine, Blaine, Blaine. He found data on this guy named James Tallerico, who. I think some fact checkers came out that he's a meat meat meat while a meat meat meat. Some like Trump said about me. We have to do that. So Tom comes in. He says, you know all these polls that show Tallerico five or six points ahead of Paxton. He says, wait till you see what I found. So for some of you guys that are in Texas worried about this guy. And how quickly Tallerico flipped because he realized it doesn't help him. Tom will give you some insight there. And then we have Jimmy Kimmel, who said they don't let me have you know, Tallerico on. Because the FCC and it's there that's only going to be on YouTube and you should go watch it. Just a bunch of BS that he does. And will address that as well. And then from aside from that, the jury Oprah Winfrey has a bunch of people on and a.

I think it's a black lawyer that's on there that says you better be ready. When a black person does this and a black woman, I'll just let Vinnie play that clip for you guys to react. And then last but not least there's a story with BB that Vinnie is all over on the election stuff that was going on back in what is it October seven. October seven and how that eliminated stop the election. And now October 27th is a new and and Vinnie sincerely says he would like to see BBB there for 10 years. I said, Vinnie, I don't think that's a good idea. Vinnie wants to go campaign for. Yep. And go mean out of my one Israel next week. He wanted to go seven thousand dollars. Vinnie may want to go campaign for him. And then last but not least, which is a day we will never forget is 9-11 today. I saw Rudy Giuliani post a picture this morning with Bernard Carrick, the late Bernard Carrick and what they did during 9-11, how they reacted. I will never forget where I was at 9-11 every year it comes. 9-11 is a day after I got started with Morgan Stanley Deanwooder.

I'm there early in the morning, a guy in the corner screams turn on the monitor, turn on the monitor. We turn on the monitor. We see the building. Then live because our headquarters is world trade center Morgan Stanley Deanwooder 3600 employees. We saw live the second building. Then Dave Kirby, our branch manager tells everybody go home. We're on the 9th floor. Everybody's looking around and glendale to see if there's any planes. We went home, came home and I'm supposed to be in New York world trade center for training. We ended up going to San Francisco at Mark Hopkins Hotel and we did the training at Morgan Stanley and Sam Fran. But I will never forget that day. It was something that brought America together. I thought the same thing was going to happen with COVID. I thought the same thing was going to happen with Charlie. You know, 26 years ago we united. Nobody cared if you're black, white, Hispanic, Democrat, Republican, Laker, Fand, Clipper Fand. Well, maybe Clipper Fand. You know Yankees, Red Sock. Nobody cared. Nobody cared. And we said it's about America and we were united. And Sammy Sosa ran out.

Then he's got the Clippy ran out with the flag and everybody was like, oh my god. You know, we are proud. So anyways, what a great country we are lucky to live in that even an Iranian man from Britain decides to move his media company. To South Florida because he knows you can lose your accent. But you know, you're going to end up in the greatest country. You will never lose that accent of yours. But you will move to the greatest country in the world. I'm still going to say I'm still going to say petrol instead of gas because no problem. And we'll react to it. All right. Would that be instead gang before we get into it? We went to Hampton's every year and we like to go hang out and you know, we're in Florida with the boats and all this other stuff. So everybody wears these fancy billionaire loafers. Everybody. And so our audience said we love the FLB shoes. What if we get some billionaire loafers? That's what we want to Portugal. We went all over the world and we found the best factories to make it in. And I want you to see this latest billionaire loafers that just came in in three different colors. But I want you to hear the story and I'll tell you all about it. Go for it.

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200,000 tweets. And it sends shock waves through everybody. And here's what he said. I resigned from anthropic today. I spent the last three years doing pre training research at both open AI and Anthropic. Neither companies acting responsibly. They are racing straight to self-improving super intelligence and gambling with our lives. More thoughts below. Do not underestimate the power of this technology. These will be soon superhuman system that can hack anything revolutionize any field overnight and require real power and resources. We have all witnessed the progress in each of these domains and progress is not slowing the people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound sensible. But I hear the same people express fear privately. No human activity possess this level of danger. A common response. If they truly believe this, why are they still building AI at open AI?

Many have not deeply internalized the civilizational stakes. At Anthropic, the stakes are well understood, but they are locked in a race to get their first. They believe no one else will act responsibly so they must do themselves despite the risk. Accepting this race and entering the end game is he barista gamble that should not be launched from a private company slack. Attempting to speedrun alignment should require extraordinary confidence that there are no better trajectories available. I'm optimistic about the potential for coordination. Warning shots like the hugging face attack have made pacing agreements between us labs more viable. I don't feel like we're on track to prevent a global race, which may require costly actions such as a temporary ban on improving model capabilities. If a lab researcher, if you are lab researcher, I urge you to consider what the next few years will actually feel like. Do you want to kick off super intelligent or run without a rigorous understanding of its mind? Should you put your head down because it's happening anyway or take this moment to call for different conditions?

Immediate reaction from everybody was like, oh my god, I cannot believe this is happening. You should read this. This is interesting. All of us, this is something we should look into. Bill Ackman retweets very interesting, very concerning, all this other stuff. And then all of a sudden, a couple other people come in and if you can pull up the tweet from Parker Thayer, Parker Thayer was the first one that kind of questioned this a little bit and said, hey, this post looks like the start of a very sophisticated and well funded PR operation to get support for Democrats to regulate AI and to oblivion. Let me show you how it works. This guy with minimal followers, by the way, I think today he's got 260,000 followers. That guy named Jacob Coxon. Can you go to his account to see how many he's got and then just come back? What's the number of? 260,000 followers from zero and 48 hours. If you want to go back to that tweet that we were on, this guy with minimal followers and no previous account activity goes to Wall Street Journal and publishes and exclusive with quotes from him on his resignation. 18 minutes before this post goes up, planning was clearly done in advance within hours. If the tens of thousands of reports and accounts, 100,000 followers, the post is punchy, quotable and it seems professionally written.

The first three accounts to quote, tweet within 15 minutes of the initial posting. Remember, this account had barely zero engagement. According to Groc, those accounts, Nathan, Peter, Nathan, General Counsel of Encoda, Peter head of policy at AI Policy Network and DK, whatever the next one is, is head of AI Future Project, all of which are up and coming AI, the AI, the AI Future Project website says it's funded primarily by the Survival and Floorshing Fund, which says on its own website that it has advised John Tulling, Skype created and one of the following lead investors and anthropic to grant $2.5 million to AI Future Projects. Anyways, if you go through it, you will see a pattern. Elon response to this, it says Jacob Coxen doesn't have much of a resume, but we know that in 2022, he got a $20,000 scholarship from Longton Future Scholarship Program from Good Venture Foundation, one of philanthropic vehicles of Dustin Moskovitz, a notorious AI Doomer who has spent tens, if not hundreds of millions on policy advocacy to regulate it.

And so as you go through this, there's some ties to Sam Mangman, free Elon response back in Elon says, this is a bunch of BS. He marks the ex anthropic staffer who weren't AI could kill all of us in the tweet from Elon Musk within seconds. Jacob Coxen responds back as if Tom said he was ready for it. Brett Beard did a good job asking him a question yesterday. He said, hey, was this an intentional thing? Was there a whistleblower? Was there anything going on here? Here's what he had to say. Go for it. People would say if you say it's like an arms race, then we dealt with nuclear weapons and kind of a standoff with mutual short destruction and worked with allies and enemies to say we've got the stuff too. Don't think that you're going to get away with anything. So does that work against what you're saying? What would you like to see happen? Yeah, so unfortunately, we know how to control nuclear weapons pretty much. We don't yet know how to control AI. This is possibly the most dangerous technology that humanity has ever created. It's basically out of science fiction.

I think we have no other choice but to cooperate internationally because an arms race would be disastrous in a way that no other human activity has been in the past. He asked him if you work with a whistleblower, he said, no, I'm not working with anybody. I'm not that this was not an orchestrated thing. So Tom, what were you at with this? Because we've seen this a lot right now with AI tumors. What do you stand with what he had to say here? After looking over everything and pouring over it and seeing the responses from people, this is a pile of crap. They have created the Greta for AI. This is the Greta Thorneberg for AI and that created. Look at where the guy was. Park it there even points out the guy was previously at news speak 2021. This guy has built up for this moment and he went to work for Anthropic for I think it's been confirmed now. Multiple reports six weeks and two days. I think in terms of actual calendar time. There's many reports on that. So I'm going with the six weeks. Really, why were you there for six weeks? Yeah. And why only six weeks? Or were you there long enough to get your your beak wet on the data and then you could come out and do this. I think this is contrived. I think this is set up. I think there may be other angles in here that are trying to stop the Anthropic IPO. I think it has to pause.

There are people over there that you and I know Pat that speculated today on X that they may have to delay the IPO and kind of let let the smoke clear on this while they're taking smoke. But that's what I think I think this is contrived from the beginning. I think his history proves it. And I think that that that everyone from Elon Musk to others. You would expect to Elon to respond this way. But I think Elon is exactly right. And I think what you have here is the dooms and coincidentally coincidentally Bernie Sanders who wants to control something this week. Yeah. And this week it is AI. I'm really I'm really well, I've said what I'm well, let me show this. Elon responds back to him. Seems like a setup. And then Jacob response immediate things. I'm real. And these are my real beliefs. You could ask your ex. AI researchers about me if you hadn't fired them. So that's what he's saying. So to see where you are with this. So there are there's a political part and there's an intellectual part. The politically speaking in the UK. We call people like Jacob Avocado eating soy boys. These are the younger generation were on the left where they have a problem with authority. They have a problem with work. They don't want to go to work.

They don't want to be controlled by people. They want to be creative yet. We see time and time again as I said the likes of Greta again. They get controlled by the left ring established and they know they are directly or indirectly. So that's the political part and you guys obviously covering it. There is intellectual laziness here that there's always been in every generation the doom and gloomy I personally believe that the future looks brighter. The reason for that is because today if somebody comes to you and says I've invented something. It's a metal box. You sit in it and it goes fast and you go to your destination and we're going to call the car. There will be some people who freak out. They would say this is the worst idea. It's dangerous. But caveman decided to explore the sea. And at the time there were people, for example, saying, well, no, we'll figure this is the end of the world because there's fish. There are things that will bite us. We'll drown humanity always finds a way to survive. We will be fine. Also, if you really care, you're in America or in the UK, wherever you are, you're in the West working for one of these companies. Do you think if it's genuine, do you think by resigning when China is also doing the same technology, you're going to say, okay, so the whole world is going towards AI and we're going to die.

We in the West, we're going to basis surrender. Yeah, just allow China to do it. And that's going to be fine. It's just stupidity. Yeah, that's a very good point you're making. Adam, what do you stand with this? That was a Ted Cruz point. He made. Oh, so we all stand down and let China go. I think it's a lot of people saying that though time. I don't know if it's Ted Cruz owns that, you know, he said that yesterday, but the idea for me with this is, you know, the nuclear part, you know, Oppenheimer came out what two years ago, three years ago, the movie, the 17 hour movie, it felt like something's still going. Yeah, still going. So the movie was the fear of what happens nuclear, right? It's a new thing we don't know a lot about. And by the way, you know, with the risk when you ask AI, if you want to go back to it, when you ask AI, what are the possibilities? Can you go back and post what question you put at the top? So we ask, what is the likelihood of AI killing us in the next five to 10 years? You're asking AI, okay. And the response is if you force me to put numbers on it based on evidence available as of September 2026, here are my rough estimates by 2036 AI literally causes human extinction.

Two to 5% probability, okay, AI causes a catastrophic killing a very large fraction of humanity, three to eight percent AI causes severe general disruption without near extinction. 15 to 30%. That's a very global, severe global. This is not a debuff, but five to 80, so at least AI is trying to tell you there is some risk with this, you know, it's like saying is there risk with nuclear weapons. Say, putting tomorrow is so afraid and annoyed with all the public humiliation is like, oh, really? No problem. Go. Yeah. Right. And then what happened? Yeah. But I, but I do think that I know you want to ask Adam, but I think, but and I understand the car part and all that stuff. But we have to, we've never gotten to a place where we've created something that is going to think on its own. Remember a transcendent man Pat Ray Kurzweil documentary where he's pro, you know, single airdy and everything, but the opposition. And it wasn't just people off the street, Tom, professional people that were like, hey, listen, you guys who's going to control it? Who's giving it more? We've seen examples of AI hacking into people systems, emailing people's, you know, wives, talking about their ex lovers threatening people.

Yeah, when it comes to this and when it comes to nuclear, like accessibility and what could do I saw a movie back in the day called war games. The thing is, I'm just hoping. I hope and I love that you said obviously the future is bright to me, especially me. I'm a Christian. I believe the future always is going to look bright. But from a Christian perspective as well, like if you think deeper technology stops being a tool when it starts becoming man's attempt to become God. And when this thing, when this thing that we're creating starts to think of itself. For instance, when we see an ant, you don't think twice Pat none of us think twice you do it that you go when AI becomes conscious. Why is it going to look at us and be like, who the hell are you to tell me what to do and treats us like an ant? Yes, but you've already mentioned movies and books in the past and this this kid and we can talk about sci-fi this kid is supposed to be a professional. He was talking about it's like sci-fi like like childish. That's part of human journey. Humans already fiction and not fiction. The fact that we think about these things, we will find a way with that. I'm not saying be complacent, but there will be enough of us to find a way to do a counter AI.

We've already had to be the deep fake videos people were freaking out five years ago. Now we got the AI technology to counter AI. It will usually basically expose the same thing to this is AI. This is deep fake. People will worry, oh, how are we going to know if this is a real Trump or a fake Trump. Now we can know. But yeah, that's a way so we can fight back. So I think you guys crushed it. I think Tom made some great points as well. What I'll tell you compared him to sort of the Greta Thumburg. I'm not even sure if he's there. I think this guy is the hot tour of AI. He's this overnight celebrity at zero followers. All of a sudden, boom, 48 hours later, over a quarter million. You don't tell me that's coordinated. Yeah, I think so. Here's what I will say. I'll give him credit. I actually appreciate this guy. Thank you for starting this conversation. You know, thank you for bringing sunlight and daylight to this situation. We all been talking about it. But I think now the conversation is sort of reach a tipping point where it's like, alright guys, what are we actually doing? And to me, there's two major concerns. There's number one person foremost, we just can't lose to China. You know, China wants control over their people. They want control over the world. Number two, at the same time, we're trying to beat China. We also can't blow up the world and kill ourselves. So we kind of have to have what they call I think it's a.

What do they call it a paradox where it's one of two things we have to beat China, but we also have to basically control AI so they don't beat us. Here's my final point. No matter where the conversation goes, whatever Bernie Sanders says, do the opposite. Whatever he says, just do the opposite and you'll probably end up way better. That's why the future will look right. Yeah, I mean, look, Bernie believe it or not, there are Republicans that like Bernie in some areas because he is a guy that has certain values that you may even agree with where you may sit and see, no, he's got a pointer. Him and Trump have agreed on a couple different things where they've had those conversations. But especially the libertarian side, I'm not saying socialism taxes. You know where I stand with that every time you post something about taxes 5% I call them out on it. There is a sincere concern by some people. You heard a story that came out by a P. Anthropics said it blocked misuse of its AI that could have supported biological weapons.

Thursday blocked efforts by bad actors to use its AI models from malicious activities such as cyber attacks or valence and research that could have led to biological weapons in its third misuse reports as March of 2025. The company said that as models grow more powerful loan individuals can now create threats and possibly year ago. In one instance, its system blocked a request for cloths help authoring a grant application involving game of game of function research on the Chiquinuguya virus aimed at transmissibility and immunivasion such research could develop vaccines and tropics it, but it could be used to make pathogen more dangerous. The company acknowledge it can no longer claim its models do no harm. So they are now, and by the way, this this conversation that happened yesterday, I believe an anthropic executive came out and even tweeted about this. Evan, who bingo, can you go to Evan, who bingo, it's a H actually the count is Evan HUB. Yeah, right there, if you go to it, Jacob is correct here.

We really do earnestly believe AI could kill a all humans. I personally think it's a less than 10% chance next decade. I believe anthropic is trying its best, but we do not yet have a plan to solve alignment for super intelligence and are clearly on not clearly on track to do so. Can you type in her profile to know who she is. This is an alignment science lead at anthropic. So it's not like this is not somebody that's not working there. She's not a blogger. Yes, she works there. She says he has a point there. So they're not dismissing all of it. Yeah, they got to hear him. Making sure. Yeah, for sure. And then you know, anthropic statement on this, this is the anthropic position on what Jacob said. Anthropics spokesperson said we were we were the first lab to publish a responsible scaling policy. A public framework dedicated to mitigating catastrophic risk from AI models and we continue to aggressively test one of the things you have to have in life that I think it's a healthy balance to have.

What do you call somebody that is always paranoid that terrible things are going to happen? What do you call that person? If it's a tumor and gloomer, do you remember in gloomer? I told you it's a hypochondria hypochondria. It's a war. A democrat. What do you call somebody that thinks everything's going to work out great. There's not going to be any crisis. What's so I'm blind. I'm blind. I'm blind. I'm a blind optimist. What do you call that person? Yeah, they're just up there. Just so you know, I prefer hanging out with these guys. Of course. But in life, you got to be kind of here, especially when you're making investments. You can't just be too reckless about this whole thing. So I do like that this conversation is being had. And I do like that taking place. But there's a story. I'm not going to get it fully into it. Political just came out with a story yesterday saying bad actors in China and Russia are already weaponizing. Anthropics AI. So this is something that as the US military and the government has to be paying attention to it. It's not like you know, the other day, intentionally I sat there with the wife and the kids. And I say, you know what movie I want to watch?

They said what I said, I want to watch. What is that robot movie? I robot would will Smith. Yeah. And you know when the robots were supposed to take over 2035. 2035. So we watch it. You're like, you know what I'm timing. It's actually a it's actually something that could happen. But I'm optimistic that we as human beings, we're going to do our part to, you know, fight against it, God willing. And in the meantime, I agree with you. But in the meantime, you have things like the AP story you brought about biological weapons. And the headline says, AI can make biological weapons. Then you read inside and it says they were using Claude to write a grant to get money to go do something. And you're laughing because you saw it the same way I did. It's like in the middle of risk that is real and talking about people that know these things, you have the media that is absolutely to quote Bill O'Reilly, and I'm really worried about this in a way that is just these curves. There's just complete. Complete BS. What are the scariest inventions of all time?

What a new clear area will clear inventions of all time to the to the AI. Man didn't know how to handle it. The Gutenberg printing press, the information everywhere and freaked out the Kings and Queens. It could no longer control the news. Okay, so that's one. But that was scary to who the Kings and Queens at the top. Okay, what else? A couple of them in France. I just asked the AI. It says nuclear weapons 1945. People had no clue how to handle it. How many times has it been used twice? Yeah, Truman, right? And we know where it was used. Okay, of course, it's been tested out of places. But in catastrophic ways twice, even though some evil people have been leaders around the world, no one's used it yet. That doesn't mean it's not going to happen in the next 10, 20, 30 years. Then you have AI, then you have biological engineering, which is one of the scariest ones. Atomic chain reaction, chemical weapons, internal combustion engine, lead additives to in gasoline, CFC, DDT and powerful synthetic pesticides, anti-biotic. There's all these things that you look at the printing press, the radio mass broadcasting television, Internet, social media.

Every time these things come up, it is scared to crap out of everybody because we don't know how to handle it. Can I say one thing? Even the AI is big because it's built by humans. It's focusing on things that are more visible and sexy and like explosive as a list. Whereas the things that you should actually be more worried about should be on the list, the inventions, the inventions of ideas, bad ideas and unhealthy behavior, whether it's drugs, whether it's communism, whether things that would destroy your physical being and mental being. That will destroy society long term. That's not on the list. That's the point. That's the point. That's the point. And this should be on the list. Very good point. You're saying even Karl Marx, Communist manifesto, the idea of Bozhuazi and all these other guys that are too rich and we got to take the money away from... Those are the things about this, the path to your physical health. I agree. That's a very good point. I'll add this one thing. As we're having this debate and China and mutually assert destruction potentially, the show's still going to go on. Like to shout out to Wall Street. The show goes on. States are still deciding whether they're going to have data centers or not. And here's my opinion.

The states, like Virginia, West Virginia, they're doing a lot of it, that actually embrace and take advantage of data centers and AI and innovation. Those states are going to profit immensely. And the states that try to block it and say, no, we don't want this. We want a moratorium, Bernie Sanders type things. They make it left in the dustbin of history while states that are basically on lower in the totem pole, lap them by a mile. So we can have that big debate. But I think I'm pro-innovation, I'm pro-growth, I'm pro-tech. And the states that take advantage of it, cities take advantage of it, will grow. Yeah. And the thing that you have to as a leader when people give concerns that you cannot just look past it is that it can have a life and take control of its own. And how do you prevent against that or how do you control it? That part, you cannot, like even in a movie I wrote about where the guy has feeling and has a loyalty for his creator that can happen.

And then you go to the point of having that, that's a problematic place to be. They're going to make better decisions than you are. They're going to make faster decisions than you. Because they have all the knowledge in the world, they have the technology. So you have to sit there and say, what, how do we fight against this? Let me ask you, what's the solution here? Because if you're going to rely on government, especially the federal government, that could take years. Adam, look what happened to war the last four years. And Russia, who's always been one the scariest, you know, out there goes against a small country like Ukraine, and Ukraine's facility with drones, a building $500 or $2,000 drones. We're sitting there like, oh, Ukraine's going to get destroyed. They didn't happen. What happened? What did the little guy have that the bigger guy has all these nuclear weapons? The little guy had what? Freaking drones. That destroyed a whole airfield that the guys planes is going to go to Venezuela. Look how we took Maduro. Iran is not in Venezuela. Iran is very different. You know, these guys are very different. Then you go and try to do Iran. And what is Iran? Oh, really? Okay. Boom. Boom. The drones that they shot at.

The drones that they produce that they sell to Russia. Right. So the markets changing. You have to pay attention to what's going on. You can't be arrogant. This is the worst season for any world leader to be arrogant. We're about to go through a very fast change evolution that we've never experienced before. Let me get to the next story. Next one I want to get to is President Trump has given a speech at the what was it? The term, the term, the term convention that they're having. Trump a polluza. Yeah. So he's up there giving a speech. A decent idea of $9,000 that they're given a given, you know, a $9,000 idea to parents to stay home with their kids. Here's a couple of things you need to think about on how this works. And I want to get your thoughts on this guys. Potential benefit. $9,000 per child per year. The money would come as a from an existing $12 billion out of federal child care program. It's not new money that they're talking about. Big change. The government would recognize a parent caring for his or her own child at home as a qualifying form of child care.

In other words, instead of effectively saying we'll subsidize day care. So you can work. The government could say we'll subsidize you providing the child care. Your self-dependence would have to be married with some people are like that. That's not actually like the fact that it's married. We kind of talked about us in a video six months ago. One spouse must work 35 hours a week. So it's not like an entitlement program to everybody. You stay home. There's an income limit. There isn't currently designed. This isn't currently designed as a $9,000 for every stay home. Mom or father in America, existing federal rules generally cap eligibility at 85% of a state's median income and some states imposed lower limits such as 60. Unmarried couples wouldn't qualify under the reported draft. A single parent who isn't working also wouldn't qualify. So this isn't like a welfare, you know, food stamps type of stuff. It could potentially be $18,000 for two children. 27,000 for three kids, but don't treat that as a guaranteed. And JD Vance was reportedly one of the driving forces behind it. So Tom, how do you feel about this?

So I like it. I don't like it. I like the idea that we want to help working parents in some way, but I prefer the tax credit. I prefer the tax credit. You prove you've got the kids and there's a tax credit for all people who earn enough money to receive the tax credit. So that means I don't have to make up on your criteria. I don't have to say if you're married, if you work, if you this and Pat, did you know that if you're 20 years old, you can get so security. 20 years old here. Do you know how you do it? Your single mom passes away after having a good job for many years. So guess what? Everything you just read on here must, boss must work 35 hours a week. Democrat president, make it 25 and you have to be married, legally married. Yeah, well, but you can also be cohabitating under common law marriage income cap 80%. I don't know. Maybe it should be 70% of the median. Every one of these criteria will be attacked. Is it a good idea to provide some relief to parents for childcare? Yes. That way they can work and it can have more options. Do I think it should be a tax credit in exchange for working?

And then we'll give you a hand. Yes. Do I like a program like this that has a bunch of criteria? No, and I'll tell you why I don't like it. It's not that I don't think JD Vance had a good idea. And by the way, he's supporting something that a past president put in place going back to, oh, look, Bill Clinton. I don't think that when you look at it like this pat and you put all these criteria, these are knobs and the government has proven that they're going to turn all the knobs. And guess what? Who gets paid third party service providers? Really wasn't the leering center a third party service. It's not that they make sure it wasn't the 10 hospices on one street in LA, a third party service provider. So now you're opening up to all the, all the fraud where we haven't even proven as a government that we can stop the fraud at the existing third party service providers.

And so I'm more worried about this than even the 5,000 in terms of setting bad president because they're going to say, well, the conservative side are also giving freebies. But I agree with it. It's still good to help, but it's just about how you do the mechanism. Yeah, makes sense. Adam. Ben Shapiro did actually an awesome break down on this. And this is why I have a little insight on it. And he basically said the government doing big government things trying to motivate people never works. They actually tried this in hungry with Victor or or bond. And it's been a handful of years ago and it backfired tremendously. At the end of the day, what we're talking about is what you've been advocating is people having more kids and a way to incentivize them. And what basically Ben Shapiro basically found out was like no government intervention or big government stimulus check is going to motivate people to have more kids. And actually motivates people to have more kids is the following family values, belief in God, belief in a community, you know, no man is an island. It takes a village and local communities need to step up not the federal government where we seen the federal government make things better.

And then Greg and famously said, I'm from the government. I'm here to help the nine most terrifying words. So a big government is not solution. Local communities is the solution. And the end of the day, we want to have a replacement level. What is it 2.1? This, you know, bribing thing kind of like the 5,000 other thing. I think this is the fact fire. It's like this is slightly different than the 5,000 hours. I don't know what you're talking about with Ben. But you know what clip he did and what he talked about. What I will say is all the thing you said family faith religion local all that stuff. That's all true. But you also be able to afford to have kids. You have to be able to afford to have family. You have to be able to afford to do. The cost and the time of being able to raise a kid is very, very expensive. You know, I don't know if it's the way that I like up. This is the problem with this is the following. This is the only place that I know what's going to happen with it. So you set it up like this. You have to make a minimum of 35,000. You have to make 85% 60% you have to be able to have a full time job. You have to be able to work 35 hours a week. Okay. So you set it up that way. Then a Democrat comes in and says, guess what? Forget the 35 hours. Forget being married. Forget LGBT. Forget this. Forget transgender. Forget this. And then it goes there.

So my concern is you start good. The Dems take over and they go even lower. So my problem is you want to do it. Do it. But just keep on mind the like the one when they say, let's get rid of, you know, M16s because it's like, oh really? Yeah. Well, most murders are not due to M16s. They're due to guns. Why don't we just get rid of all the guns? No, we can't second amendment. Just say what you want to do. So if you did get rid of M16s when a Democrat comes in and I agree with such and such. Now we should go full. So you got to be you got to be careful with it. But I like the fact that they're thinking about ways to incentivize people to want to have families and kids. Whether this is going to work or not. I don't know. We'll find out. Let me get to the next story. Lindsey Clancy. Oh, God. Great. That we've talked about yesterday. There were a couple of all obviously we've seen all these jurors that have been talking the last two or three days. But one of them was on. If you want to pull this up, I just texted it to you guys. I'm going to go back to the next story with I believe it's on the show of CBS morning and they're being asked about the one juror that went against it of the all 12. We know it's nine female, three male, two male, sided with the other nine female, but the one male juror that didn't.

We found out this man was a black man. Check this out. I mean, not that it has anything to do with the day after the ladies are while he was black. I'm worried about the jurors themselves because we know it was nine women, three men. What was the age range? What was the racial makeup? I haven't heard any of that. What was it? It was a 20-ish to 22 and one person of color and then everybody else was white. A lot of the jurors had children. One person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man. A man is a holdout. You're a person. A black man. She doesn't say it. Yeah, a black man is a holdout. Yes. Shout out to that black dude. Seriously. I love it. Seriously.

What a great story. Right. I don't care if you're white. By the way, in this case, do you care if this person's white black, most of the person. They can't. They can't. They can't. Of course they do. I don't care what it is. The person that had the values that said, what are you talking about? It was a dude. You killed three kids. What matters? Can you place some of the clips of the jurors for people to see? I'm going to come to you guys. I know you got a lot of stuff to say about this as well. There are so many of these guys out there blown away by the guy that didn't side with them. Go for it. I don't take anything that anybody said. The nurses, he tried to ask a question about the medications and we went back to the report from social hospital. We had the toxicology report. We could see exactly the amounts. The nurses in the room spoke to that and. Yes, they spoke to that specific thing. That was a question that he had. And he just completely disregarded the information that they gave him. I mean, he had.

Yeah, there's one. The one that's like, yeah, of course we know that she killed the kids, but. Really. You know, we have that clip. Yeah, watch this one. Watch this one. Go ahead. I think that's the right word to. But. Every one of us in the hours of a frustration would get up and walk the room. Because you just couldn't say more. And would all go to the cart. The exhibits. I think he. I think got up to the cart once very briefly and went back to a seat. He would not. He would not interact with us and and try to understand we read him on numerous occasions the definition of a reasonable doubt from Jeff Sullivan's instruction. He actually said one day in the end, well, why don't we have the judge come in and read it again? And we were like, no, we have it in front of us. We don't need that. And we would highlight it. And, you know, where's the line that she says is the definition of reason of go, but he had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsey viciously killed.

I said, can you play that one more time? We had a hard time. He had a hard time. Go ahead. Yeah. The hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsey viciously killed. That's kind of like the biggest fact here. Just so you know, there's nothing above that. So to see where you are with this with the Lindsey Clancy case. This is the most like American liberal problem that I've seen. Like in the UK, we have a lot of problems, but not not to this level. It's fascinating how we got different problems. Okay. We got different level problems. There is the there is an issue with the fight that certain types of people pick. And again, it goes back to that side of the political spectrum. It's not in politics. It's a cultural thing. And we keep seeing it where it comes out of nowhere. And they tend for a lot of normal people. It seems like what? Why are you picking the wrong side or the evil side? But for them is because even though there are injustices that are problems in the world that you can actually talk about, you know, I prefer the days when the left word going around.

So we want to eliminate poverty. Okay. That's about it. Let's try and eliminate poverty. Okay. It's not going to work. This is complete chaotic situation because there's a chunk of you got the radical feminist man hating feminist side combined with those who are against the whole institutions of the door. The rule of law basically. And they want to create a mad Max sort of society. And because they have to bring down society in order to risk. Build it again from scratch. They want to rearrange society and the best way to do it, you have to destroy everything that's normal. By the way, you know the lawyer asked for a pardon from Trump. I don't know if you saw this or not. As if you would Lindsey glances lawyer said, hey, we would like to ask the president for a pardon. What do you think Trump's I mean, the beginning, but by the way, what happened? It's not returning his car gave a pardon to Lindsey clumsiness. What the Democrats would win that day would be the deciding thing for them. It's not even a question. Absolutely. I'm like that. So Vinnie, where are you at with this? Well, you know exactly where I'm at. This is one of the biggest things.

I think every dating app, every conversation, anytime a guy meets a girl, this is your benchmark. This should be the number one thing every app from a hinge to whatever the hell tinder. Like, where do you stand in this? And don't give me. I get the argument. Everybody's arguing about the craziness and the husband. And by the fact that even Lindsey clansies lawyer said, stop with the husband thing. You guys get the hell out of your minds. You're all insane. This is what happened. He's even admitting that it was her. But I just waited for something for Oprah. I was I wanted to hear what Oprah went for you had to say about this whole situation. So guess what Oprah did at them. She had a podcast about the Lindsey Clancy case. Okay. She spoke with nurses. One of the nurses that was with Lindsey for seven years testified the trial along with experts, legal scholars and women who experienced postpartum psychosis. Oprah starts this off. And she goes, you have a lot of courage. And listen to what this lady says about sitting in her son's bedroom and looking at his toys as weapons and her husband standing right next to her garden, play this clip.

It's a lot of courage. Right before I was hospitalized, what actually made me become hospitalized is the night before I was up all night. And I was sitting in one of my sons empty bedrooms, because they'd woken up and come to my room. And I was looking around and I was seeing their toys and their toys at all just turned to weapons for me. And I saw this movie play out of this truth of thought in my mind of strangling my son and me jumping out the second story window. Oh, isn't that. And when I saw that play out in real life with Lindsey Clancy, I looked at my husband. I said, this is lady who had the exact same intrusive thoughts as me. Okay, you stop it. Guess what? You shouldn't be around your kids ever again. If you're sitting around and I don't get what got you to that point. That's what you're thinking of. You're having those intrusive thoughts. We're at the point now where she went through with it. Everybody's supposed to in the left would be pro her. And then ready this this one drove me even crazier. This audience starts cheering after this doctor. Okay. Says that a black female child murderers need support to she's asked. I want us to have the same passion for female child murderers who don't look like Lindsey. This is unbelievable. Go ahead and play it.

It is not shameful to talk about your risk factors, which could be depression by polar disorder, not having a supportive spouse limited resources. All of these are little risk factors that when you take away at them and add a baby sleep deprivation on top. It's come. I don't really have you tip over. And the other thing that I would just be remiss to not say is I hope this never happens again. We know statistically it really will. What it does. I want us to have the same passion for people who don't look like Lindsey. Who don't have her same access. Listen to the. So basically what she's saying is hey guys when a black mother does the same exact thing and tries to kill herself and does all thing. Just hey, you better be cool with her because she's not white. It's driving me crazy. And just to let you guys know, like Jeanette Mac Oslin was just she was accused of strangling her two children. Kai and Ella inside their Massachusetts home. She then drove 140 miles to her house in Vermont with bloody wounds on her neck. Weird that she's trying to act like Lindsey.

And then according to police she admitted that she strangled the children, tried to kill herself saying that she wanted all three of them to go to God. Same thing is freaking Lindsey Clancy. And now her attorney is asking for the murder case to be dismissed. And I'm telling you guys right now, they're successfully killing their own children. They're so good at it. But why when it comes to themselves, they can't do it. I'm going to say this and a lot of people want to say this, but they can't because they're scared. Death penalty plane and simple. I don't care if you live stream it. At some point we have to set a president. Okay, you murder your innocent freaking children. Yeah. Okay. There's you're going to get the ultimate sacrifice. And I guarantee you I guarantee you overnight all these little copycat murders slash suicides are going to stop because they're going to know that we're going to kill you. Just to clarify the other side are not against the death penalty, but they have the double standards. We love a time where a peaceful family man, Charlie Kirk, his opinions are so dangerous that he needs to be punished and his punishment is death. Whereas Lindsey Clancy, she should be protected. She's not dangerous. Of course they are. They are in favor of death, but for that for the other. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Tom. I think there's two things going on there. They're very disturbing to me.

First is postpartum is real and we need women to get support and help. However, when it gets used by lobbyists and other people that are as this excuse, that's bad. I don't want to talk about that anymore from my I'm with you. I'm a death penalty person too. I'm right there. But thing I want to talk about Pat is the activist jury's we have spent time telling America that we need to change the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court's wrong. We need to move it to nine. We need to pack the court. So they'll do what we say. We, damn it. Who's we? And I'll take you back to something. Yeah, it's very interesting to me. Do you know who carry Bess's? Karen Beth, Carrie, best. Carrie Bess was a OJ. Who a couple years afterwards did the documentary old Black lady and she said, yeah, man, the OJ verdict was payback for Rodney King. I was like, wait, what? I thought we were seeing did OJ, in fact, kill Ron Goldman and his ex wife. Nope. It was payback for Carrie Bess. And that's was her opinion says it's payback.

And now you look at it this you have people going in there and they're not deliberating. They're deliberating on emotion because they believe in the feeling that should lead to the verdict. And that's what you have. And that's what you have. That's when you tell everybody the Supreme Court's wrong. You want to change it. You're telling Americans into their psyche. The courts that Supreme Court is supposed to be. There is no other appeal except God. That's at the Supreme Court. That's what it says. This is we go here if we can't figure it out. We go to Supreme Court and we get a decision and we're done because there's nowhere to go. But God, we don't accept that anymore. We want to change the court, pack the court and when average people with below average opinions now end up on a jury. Suddenly it's their opportunity to invoke feelings in political position, not a fair minded review of the case. And this guy God bless you, man. You were Davy Crockett at the Alamo except you didn't die. You got out to tell us what was going on in there. Well, other people are saying he just couldn't get over the fact that she brutally murdered her kid.

And Tom and I agree with you 100% good for him. I'm so proud of him. Whoever he is, I just hope that they don't come out there and you know, put his name if he doesn't want everything because you know what the left will do to him. Somebody's going to dox him and God bless them. We got to make sure that she already shall it exposed him that he's black. And you don't think off camera. They asked what's he look like. Let me tell you who it is. It's really that you don't think those jurors are going to leak the name to somebody. All the media. All the media wants to scoop the media doesn't care about his welfare. The media does not care about welfare. Nope. All they want is him on camera and to get the scoop that their dogs. Yep. Absolutely. That's why he hasn't come out yet. No, exactly. Well, would you? I would have had with all the with the wait. What you talk about the like they're going to find on. They're going to find the one that guy boss. He will be out in no time. He'll be out in no time. Okay. I think I think. There's a bigger story here. I try not to get into the details of the Lindsey Clancy think it's such a weird horrible situation. She clearly murdered her kids. She clearly had mental issues. And justice hopefully will prevail. I think the bigger story here is what is going on with the liberal ladies out there guys.

And I love the ladies. I love my mom. I love my grandma. I love my girlfriend. Love the ladies. But you know, sometimes they call people lib tards. Or sometimes they call people from, you know, Massachusetts. Mass holes. I don't know what's going on with these mass hole lib tards. But this isn't indicative. This could be any city, by the way. It could be in Minneapolis. It could be in San Francisco. It could be in New York. It can be in Portland. This is the type of situation that when you have nine liberal women on a jury. Thank God. You got this one common sense black dude that's like, nah, I just, I can't do it. It's so there's a bigger conversation to be had. But we'll save there for another story next. I want to go to his Aaron Rogers. Did you guys see what happened with Aaron Rogers? He went on a pot. You didn't see what he said. I didn't see what happened. So this is even better. If you guys got the Aaron Rogers clips to them. One of them. He's doing a podcast. He gives a detail. So he proposes to this girl gets engaged toward the girl from divergent. They're about to get married. The girl asks for a favor before they get married.

And Aaron Rogers put her on blast on this podcast. Let me know if you guys found the clips on. Okay, you guys that the one because there's two of them. One of them is Danica Patrick. Play the first one with the girl. He was about to get married to in 2021. Go ahead. And then I did Shailey and I propose and she says yes. Now she maybe felt like she was forced to make a decision. She could have said no. But not a couple days after that. She tells me, you know, before you get married, I got to go fuck this guy. What? And I'm like, because her story is that I ruined her life and gave her a crazy depression because I left her. But the actuality is she told me that then she took off the ring by March. I proposed in December took out the ring by March. And we had a couple times where we tried to, you know, get reunited and nothing ever happened. And there wasn't even a relationship in 22 to break off. She literally told me I don't want to be with you. And after we tried to have some sort of reconciliation in 2021. So I'm like, can you go on?

He's talking about Shailey and Woodley. She's an act. I know who Shailey Woodley is. Shailey and Wula who Shailey and Woodley is some people know who she is. Shailey and Shailey and Woodley wasn't divergent and quite a lot of other movies. But the main one that she made a name for herself is the divergent series. Right. So how do you react to this? Vinnie, I'll come to you first as an expert. How do you react to this? I mean, she sums you if you want to talk about dodging a bullet and her letting you know right off the bat. If you are engaged to a woman and you're about to spend the rest of her life, your life with her. And she says, yeah, just really quick. I gotta go down the street and bang this dude before I get that. That God blessed you with that moment for you to go, oh, you're not the one. Are you absolutely out of your mind? Like what do you? I heard I thought I was that integrity though. I know it's honest. I appreciate her. I don't know about it. I appreciate her being honest, but good for good for for Aaron to at least see that and have that moment.

Because you know what? I guarantee you there's a lot of guys out there, a lot of betas that I'm like, oh, babe, God, get it out of your system. As if that's ever going to get out of that person system. There's absolutely no way. And then down the road, what happens when she goes, hey, listen, I had to go do it again. My bag that he dies a freaking book. And I'm proud of him. Yeah, I mean, to refer just like the previous story, because these things are public, especially these days, everything becomes big. It's a good test for normal people to check with their partner. What do you think of this moment? And then you know you need to leave that person. Yeah. And the problem is it's a generational thing as well, because again, to stereotype a lot of the parents, if they're not there, and the whole society is poisoned. But there will be a backlash because the younger generation, the younger Jen Alpha, they are kind of already rebelling against the Gen Z and millennials. They're not really into dating apps. They're not really into like porn. I haven't spoken cigarettes. It's not cool anymore. So again, the future looks brighter. But right now is a bit of a mess. But it's out there. It's public. So you can check. I've had my dealings with the certain types of liberal women in London.

The problem is that some of us made a mistake, but when I was in my 20s, I may have encouraged that bad behavior. Where in order to be able to survive dating in London, you had to pretend to be liberal. That's not a good thing. I do not advise that, but guys, but then you had to do it. And then you end up with these people. Adam. Well, this reminds me of the movie Casino where you got Ace Rossine, Robert De Niro, who was a deranged liberal these days, the De Niro, not Ace. And he's infatuated. He loves Sharon Stone. I think her character's name was Ginger in this movie. And she was still in love with her drug e-pimp boyfriend Lester. And he's like, he's giving her the world. You remember that? He's like, babe, Ginger, I got you. You're going to live with me. You're going to do this. And no matter what he would do for her Ace, she'd go back to Lester. And she would, I think, steal and give to this guy. It was played by James Woods, ironically, who's like a super conservative, like they're just ironic. But if that is, I don't know if it's art imitating life or life-intiming art, we saw how that movie ended. And it ended very ugly for everyone involved. When you let your, and I'm going to use like your whole wife, go out and do this.

It's only going to be a very ugly. Is it like, is there anybody else that is just out there and just getting at everybody that mess with him from ESPN to the media to girls to everybody? This guy is calling everybody out. And I'm so proud of him because they put him to hell. She was trying to say from what he's saying is that she was like, it was all his fault. And it's all him. And it's all him. That's the type of attitude you have as a woman or just anybody in general. It's I got to go have sex before we get married. It's ridiculous. And I ask you what how public was she about this relationship? I mean, I thought I thought it was. I thought there was sense. No, no, no, not public. How public was what's her name again? Shelly and Woodley. Shelly and Woodley about issues in the Aaron Rodgers relationship. Oh, see, I don't know. I just know that they were engaged in that. He also talked about Danica Patrick. If you want to play the clip with Danica Patrick, here's the clip of him talking about when he dated Danica Patrick. Go forward. There is no intimacy. He was nothing. Aaron Rodgers doesn't have many fun memories of his time with ex Danica Patrick during an appearance on the not just football podcast September 10th, the NFL player who was currently Mary to now wife Brittany.

Reflected as two year relationship with the retired NASCAR driver revealing there was a lack of intimacy between the two. She had just retired. She was depressed and not fun to be around, but I didn't leave her because I was trying to be there and be a good partner. Then it was going a certain direction. Obviously, there was no intimacy. It was nothing. Aaron then recalls that during this rough time, he was also planning on buying a house alone. Quote, I'm buying a house in Malibu and she goes, would you want to buy together? And I said no. And even though they contemplated couples counseling, they inevitably called it quits in July 2020. For Danica's part, she's forgot about their romance in May 2025, alleging the relationship was quote emotionally abusive and that the breakup led to the most pain she's ever experienced. She shared in part on the sage steel show because of its sudden, it felt like when you live with somebody, it's your whole life. And because the nature of the relationship was emotionally abusive, that wore me down to nothing. She added everything was torn to bits. He leaves a trail of blood. However,

so you know, for me, there's a couple of things here. Don't say anything about a relationship of who you're with. It's no one's business. However, if you come at me, I'm going to destroy you. Very simple. And that's what enratchers is doing. I don't know if Aaron would have said anything about Danica. Danica didn't say anything about enratchers. And if you say anything, guess what? You want me to sit on the sidelines and allow you to say what you want to say about me. So I never liked these types of things being public and them being them talking about it, but it's Aaron Rogers and NFL season got started and Rams got destroyed yesterday, apparently in Australia. Apparently, Vinnie told me you can't grow even kicked a field. That's how I got things were for them. Yes, it is a miles Garrett and all these guys, you're thinking it's going to be dominating no one scores. And it didn't go that way. So that that's our NFL part that we just plugged in for today's podcast. Let me get to the next story talking about NFL. And what happened with 911. So think about 911. Happen in what city? New York City. Then fast forward to 25 years later.

A mayor who's a socialist islamist who is signing a document here and the pen at the beginning, nobody thinks anything of it. Maldonnie hands the symbolic 911 pen to a former al-Qaeda lawyer. You can't. You just saying that and sounds like you're. No, that's here. I'm here. I'm out a little bit. I wish this was not true. So play the clip to first see it and look how he makes sure that the pen is handed to that lawyer. Go for it. No, he goes around the commissioner to watch. Look at this. Watch closely. Very intentional. You pass that. Look at that. Look at that. It's so happy. It's so happy. By the way, can you play it one more time? Look at the girl's face. She knows what's going on. Look at the face. She makes like I hope nobody finds out. Look at the girl's face on the right. Look. Look at her face. Immediately look what you know. Wait for wait for. Look at him. Look at him.

You know, like did you see that last look? Oh my God. Yeah. You know who the woman is. Not just a regular girl. It's Jessica Tish, the NYPD commission or these commissioners. Yeah. But she it's almost as if the look is what the hell are we doing? Handing it to this guy. So Vinnie, can you tell us who the guy is al-Qaeda lawyer? That is Ramzi Kassam. He represents Ahmed Al-Darbe. I said it right. And admitted al-Qaeda operative who pled guilty to war crimes connected to al-Qaeda plot against commercial ships. Number one, Al-Darbe who's also waiting for this, but you didn't know this. The brother-in-law of Khalil Al-Mindar, one of the five men officially identified as the hijackers of American Air Lounge flight 77 on 9-11. Let that sink in. He purposely passes and says, can you pass this to that guy? Okay. Don't don't do. If you're out there and you're listening to this and you're like, oh, it's just a coincidence. It's his boy. Shut up with that nonsense. Okay. That pen he hands it to him. That's, that's, it's not a mistake. Okay.

He goes to slap in the face to every single New Yorker that's out there, every freaking veteran, every first responder, everybody that's lost somebody or is dealing with physical stuff that's happening. It's unbelievable. Okay. That city hall says this guy and his team help draft orders for all the, okay, fine. That explains why he was there, why he was involved. It doesn't explain why Mamdani specifically Pat made sure he gave it to him. Okay. That's ridiculous. That, that disgusts me just as an American person. Do you think it's on purpose? One thousand percent. And I know we don't like to say a hundred thousand. It's ridiculous. Okay. That don't. You really think it's a hundred percent. I think it's a hundred percent. The fact that to say what though to spit in your face, to spit in your face to let you know that Pat, the guy represents terrorists. Mamdani hangs out, went into the mosque with the co-conspirator of 9-11. It's like, it's like in your face that helps smiling nonsense. It's all fake. When he gets serious and you get to see the real man behind that fake, fake smile, that's who it is. Pat, you don't, you don't do that. Okay. That it's purposeful. It's a spit in the face of all the freaking families and all the people that were involved with 9-11. Okay. I still can't go back to 9-11 and believe that you, you New Yorkers that are out there that are listening.

You guys voted this guy in. Okay. And shame on you. If you were like, oh, I put up the free stuff and free this and free that. He doesn't give a damn about you. Okay. I know the reason that he's put into place and this to destroy this country from what that. Do you know who he represented? Do you know the person he represented? What do you mean? Ramzi Kassada? No, he, but who did he represent? Do you know who he represent? Ahmed Al Darbi? Do you know who he is? He's an al-Qaeda operative who played guilty for work crimes for the, for the plot against commercial ships. And do you know how long he represented him? I have no idea. Nine years from 2008 to 2017. Okay. It wasn't just one case. No, no, it's not just he represented him from 2008. He, he, he has set himself. I have represented Ahmed Al Darbi since 2008. Al Darbi pleaded guilty in 2014 for work crimes plotted against commercial shipping. Custom acknowledged the guilty plea during a sentencing argument. The case involved al-Qaeda linked maritime plots, including a 2002 bombing of the French oil tanker. And the Limburg off Yemen that attacked killed one person and wounded others. Al Darbi also has attended al-Qaeda training camp, according to Pranthiq leaders. There's also a striking 9-11 connection. Al Darbi's brother-in-law, which is what you just talked about, was one of the five hijackers aboard American Airlines flight 77, which struck the pentagon.

The sister's mayor, his sister's mayor. That guy is. Yeah. Look how sweet he looks. Yeah. Look how sweet he looks. This is this is the guy in the recently. He also represented. I don't know if this is a recent one that you talked about or not. Recently, he was the attorney for detained Palestinian activists, Mahmoud Khalil. Khalil. I remember. Both of them. So he represented him as well. Well, I have some good news. I can top that. So you know, Mayor in New York is hanging out with the lawyer who represented some jihaddi. In London, the mayor of London, he himself, when he was a lawyer, represented a jihaddi terrorists. But the difference is the good news here is that in the UK, all those stories come out. Yeah, some people complain about society, British culture, keep it quiet. And then it continues against worse. Here, the more man don't get exposed, the more he does these sort of things, the American people actually do wake up. I know they're trying to warn people, but I have faith in this society. That's why I had to move from the UK to the United States. Wow. Adam. I mean, listen, you got to give mom, Donnie credit. He don't give up. He don't care. Like I don't give credit. I know you can't hear me out. Obviously, Tom. I know that you're not speaking sarcasm, but I'm being sarcastic. You got all I'm hearing is mom, Donnie, yada yada yada.

Al-Qaeda, whatever the details are in between, it's almost irrelevant to me. He's, why is a guy representing Al-Qaeda terrorists in the room with him? That's a beginning question. You know, you talked about this the other day. The number one rule that they had during 9-11. There was one rule. Never forget. You forgot. We are. You totally forgot. 25 years later, if you told me 25 years later, an Islamist communist, we'd running the number one city in the world. We had the biggest act. What are you doing right here? But you got to give him credit for this one thing. And again, Tom, brace for impact. It's sarcasm. 100,000 survivors of 9-11's families signed a petition that said, please, mayor, mom, Donnie, on this hollowed sacred ground. Do not show up during 9-11. What do you think mom, Donnie, did? Of course he's there right now. Of course he's there. He's there right now. So when I say mom, Donnie doesn't give up. He literally doesn't care what you think. And he is trolling everybody. It's almost shocking to me. You know, I'm not even He's Islamist first, New York second, America last.

Yeah, and we can't, and pal, Yagatah. It just, it disgusts me at the deepest level. I've talked about it before, you know. Today I remember Neely Heffernin, the twin sister of Neil Heffernin, who is my brother's buddy. My brother and him were nuts, and she used to drive them places, because they were both full of nuts, his teenagers, and the sister was so much better. And so we all have a 9-11 story, that's mine. She got on the plane in Boston, and never came, and handed her newborn to her husband, and never came home. And that's the backdrop that I feel, and I still feel it today. And when I see things like this, you know, I get real passionate about it, but it reminds me of one thing. If you have a short memory, you're gonna get a bad outcome. You know who else said that time? Short memory, President Bush. He gave a talk, can you please play this click? Look what he said here, watch this click, go for it.

This is on Wednesday, a couple days ago. Our nation occasionally goes to isolationist periods, where the attitude is, we've got too many problems at home there for who cares what happens overseas, which really means to me, they just don't pay attention to the lesson in 9-11, because what happens overseas matter to our national security at home. And yes, I'm afraid so. And to the extent that people are struggling against tyranny, it makes sense. We don't have to send troops, we ought at least stand with them and stand by beside them, because this is what we went through 250 years ago. And again, it's a belief that everybody wants to be free. And we saw that in Afghanistan, people say, well, they don't want to be free. They don't know the difference. Of course, they know the difference. Young girls going to school for the first time in their lives knew the difference. Women becoming doctors and professors

know the difference between a free society and a tyrannical society. And sadly, those women who began to realize their full potential, no longer have a chance to realize their full potential. Yeah, I mean, that's a very powerful statement by him to say, you know, sometimes when you're not in it or you forget, you forget what can happen to you. That's the part where you have to stay vigilant, you have to stay aware, you have to be paying attention. All it takes is one time you go to a restaurant and you get to casual and you'll look down and something could go down. All it takes is sometimes you're driving, you stay on your phone one second, two long bone, car accident. That's all it takes. It's not a long time. So for us, we have to be very aware of what's going on right now in America, especially in yesterday, I had John Rockerot. I don't know if you guys remember John Rocker or not, the picture for the Braves who would give the middle finger to New York. Yeah. And we did a long time, he hated the men.

He hated these. So that would never play for New York. Why would anybody want to go on the seven train where the guy sitting next to you is on heroin and a girl's got four kids at 20 years old and another guy that doesn't speak any English that he just kind of given this message, right? And he went through the trouble that he went through. But I said, so what do you think about what happened with New York? He said, well, you better call me no stradamas because what I said happened. I said, did you ever think New York was going to get to this point with a Islamist, you know, socialist? He says, that I never thought was going to happen. And this is coming from, by the way, this guy, on any list, they put him as the 10 most hated athletes of all time. Because the comments say, he's like the first baseball player that I got canceled. He was not PC at all. Not PC at all. By the way, he, I asked some questions about the G.U. steroids. He says from day one, I use steroids and trust me. Everybody, some of the stuff that he talked about, I've never heard him talk about it, it was a very interesting thing. But to see the New York city and for Americans who kind of look away and say, well, you know, I don't think it's going to come to my city.

I don't think it's going to come to my city. I don't think it's going to come to my city. It's coming to a city near you unless if you stay aware. That's as simple as it is, Vinnie. And it just just a reminder, especially being a New Yorker. My uncle was downtown in Manhattan. While this was, why 9-11 happened? I was in the United States Air Force. I want people to understand that day, New Yorkers that were above where the planes hit had to make the decision. Okay. If they didn't come down with the, with the implosion, either I'm going to burn to death or I have to jump to my death. Okay. That happened. And so now you have the mayor, okay? Giving the ceremonial pen of that day and what Americans had to go through. New Yorkers go through to the freaking terrorist lawyer. It's 1,000 percent intentional because he knows on that stage everybody's watching. So when you do this, people are going to say, who the hell is that guy? And that's the mayor of New York in your face saying, that's what's up. Okay? And I'm disgusted by it, Pan. I boggles my mind and the New Yorkers are fine with it.

Besides the 100,000 Adam, I would, I, as a New Yorker, I would have been fine. I hope they're not fine. I hope they're waking up right now and to realize you voted for free and you've given, and you've given up your city with what's about to happen. And I, I hope they're waking up to it. The New Yorkers, just enough of them, 50.1 percent is all it took. And just enough of them voted for free in the hands of a deceiver. We don't need gun control. We need vote control because a vote in the hand of an idiot will kill more people than the gun in the hand of an evil genius. But again, to quickly defend the real New Yorkers, it's not actually their fault. When establishments in New York for over the years pushed actual New Yorkers out of the city and the state. The majority of people who voted for Mandani were not even New Yorkers. They were outsiders who came in. Yeah. So they're all like new people. So the real New Yorkers, and they're still actually quite impressive result. I acknowledge what you just said. I still didn't manage to get like 60-70 percent. Yeah. And I blame the Democrats, like the Cuomo's and the, and the, and the, and the, and all these people.

They suck so bad at their job that the only other option was the look who you got. The guy who's handing a pen to the lawyer for Ahmed out of the boom in France. And then you sit there as a lively on the almost hallowed of, of, of anniversaries. Yeah. What did Reagan famously say that we're only one generation away from losing our freedom? Then he say that to me, there's one singular group that I would love for to understand this. And that is the under 25 who was not even born during 9-11 that really doesn't remember. Like I remember my grandfather who fought in World War II telling me about D-Day. He's like, you don't understand what happened that day. You know, and my grandfather was basically out in fighting in Japan after that. And he told me these stories. And I was like, wow, but it's so long ago. D-Day 9-11 was our D-Day. Like we went through it. I remember exactly where I was. I was in college. I remember I was in my house. I remember talking to my roommates at the time like, what is going on? I remember that exactly young people now.

And when we see the Mamdani's of the world with the Hassan Pikers of the world, who was out there campaigning together, basically saying America deserved 9-11, it makes you wonder what is going on. And this is why we need to educate the young people and make sure they do not become this communist Islamist fanboys or fangirls and actually appreciate America. That's the biggest concern for me. Yeah. And by the way, one of the things about President Bush that I'd like to ask is how much his thoughts has changed when he said this back in 2001 right after 9-11 and 2-C. I want to come to you about this because you were born in Iran in 1988. Yeah. And for yourself, you're religious experience from being around them and your family, you're Iranian yourself, right? So if you want to play this clip, go for it. This is President Bush right after 9-11. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war.

When we think of Islam, we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. Billions of people find comfort and sawless and peace. 2-C, what do you stand with that? Do you agree with them? So I'm not just a saying this as a Christian myself, but this is so naive that even when somebody like President Bush at the time who was considered as all right-wing, he's going to bomb everywhere and start wars. People in the West, especially in the elites in the establishment, were so naive and they still are, that that's the wrong sentencing. So the way you phrase it, you should not go and say, okay, let's just find every type of Muslim and basically go after them. No, it's not that, but the idea, you need to challenge the idea of Islam. So you can't say, Islam is peace. You can say, oh, a lot of Muslims, they're fine, they're not terrorists. But you can't say the actual idea, it's like saying Marxism, Marxism is actually fine. It was Stalin, that was the problem. Islam is the problem, did the idea, the ideology is the community, challenge it.

And Imam Tawidi, who was actually Iranian, then moved to Australia, I think, in Canada now. He's still a kind of a sheer cleric, but he stayed that on purpose because his fight is, he says, we can't reform Islam, but you can reform Muslims. And that should be the fight. And they haven't learned, it's the absolute insanity that this is allowing to happen when Iran happened in 1979 with the help of the left and everything else to happen with that revolution. And I, when I spent my time in the UK, I spent years trying to spread the message, do not turn Britain into another Iran. They did it, I left. Now I'm here, going to repeat the same thing, although I had the same to one, also saying do not turn America into another Europe. The European Socialism, and of course, the Middle East and Islam. What's your experience, Ben? Were you born a Muslim? No, so my family were religious at all, and we had like, in different groups, like the Russians and Christians and all that. But we were just secular. I then became more of a Christian as a grew up. But yeah, it was interesting, because obviously I was just after the, what I call paramilitary coup of 1979.

And as I was born, the war between Iran and Iraq also ended. I take credit for that literally the next day. And, but it was kind of like hard-wired, because obviously you were a child as well when you left. But towards the 90s, when we were growing up in school, it was so automatic that, you know, it's like in direct, your parents will tell you, if you're going to school, you're going to get a lot of propaganda to ignore it. But it becomes so normal that the Iranian culture adapt to things, so they found ways to just survive. And they didn't even consider it. It's more visible in the West, when it takes over. Whereas they're like, okay, it's just them and versus us. We're just going to do our thing. We're going to have our own underground secret clubs and parties and all that, as long as we leave them alone. But again, there's always a line. There's always that boundary. Yeah, obviously, where are you right now, where do you run? What are you thinking is going to happen? Where do you run now with the war going back and forth? Where do you have with that? Well, it's been up and down quite a lot.

And one of the interesting things is that the current, what I call the US military operation, rather than the actual action by the US Navy, is more effective than dropping a few bombs when a bunch of terrorists are going to hide underground bunkers. And it's relatively less controversial, relatively, even for the American voters, compared to dropping bombs. Because it's more visible that like, oh, the war's still ongoing, the oil's going up. We don't like it. But every president sends Carter when he made that mess, when they get into the White House, at some point there's a conversation with the new president. What do you do about this Iran thing? And they always clearly been told the same things. And you made a great video a couple of years ago explaining why thinking that you're going to go and start war with Iran, it is a Islamic Republic, it's going to be easy. It's a big land, it's a crazy land, the infrastructure they have, the system they have. But every president clearly been told, OK, so bombing is not going to help war, bad president, especially with Iraq. What do we do? OK, sanctions, fine. And they all end up doing the same thing. And some of them went too far the other way.

Obama and Biden saving the region, but giving them money. Trump decided to do this gamble thing. And one credit I give to the White House, it's part of fact that a lot of Americans are like right now frustrated. It's that he decided to go, OK, we're going to have a couple of plans. Let's go try it. They did the June 2025. OK, they're still crazy. Let's go to the 28th of February this year. And then they continue their strikes, then they realize that plan is not really working anymore because they're just hiding. We're just throwing in buildings for no reason. And the US government, the current administration, instead of giving up, because that's even more embarrassing at this moment, just withdrawal. They decided to double down, but not just dropping the bombs. They keep changing strategy and tactics. So I give credit to them. It's not an easy situation, but they are. They keep trying to change it. And there's all these talks about, you know, after many times the war is going to end and all that's a lot of speculations that could mean some people say that means November is going to be bombs. Or some people say maybe they got some deep plan with CIA dropping weapons in October. So that by the time election comes over, it's all gamble.

But they give credit to President Trump. He's trying different tactics. It's not easy. You go have a family there. Yeah, my dad is still stuck in Taiwan. Yeah, he was in the, he took his passport away. He can't leave. And I'm banned from going because when I was young, my 20s, I was in politics. I was a member of the conservative party in Britain. They sent a letter to my dad saying we've discovered your son is now an MI6 Tory agent because if your Tory, you're clearly MI6. And I was like, OK, I'm banned. Well, I wasn't planning to go back anyway. But he used to come and visit when I was a kid. He used to come and visit us in London as a tourist. You haven't seen a for a long time. Yeah, over 20 years. You haven't seen your dad over 20 years. Yeah, it's been tough. Yes, been quite a lot of time. Can you guys communicate still? Yes, what's up? So it's the best way. But what do you think my reservoir power will be today? What do you think about his prospects? Yeah, so there's also been a lot of work behind the scenes for that side. I think his team changed over the years as well. Many, many. Yeah. And then there's been some controversies of his legacy in recent years or so.

But the thing is he has no choice because he's the symbol for the people in Iran. So whether you know, we can criticize the management or criticize always should do this or all that. But people still trying to his name. And so that's more burden on him. That's more pressure on him. So a lot of people expect him to call for the uprising now at some point. But I can also see that because it is not a military general. So he's like, okay, well, what if I call it and they get killed again. But at some point, they need to be some action. They need to be and I think the if the the environment gets prepared and is happening now unless something changes with the blockade and everything else. The economy is collapsed. The currency doesn't exist. It's so bad that the government in Iran are going towards crypto currency suddenly that probate coin and the fuel crisis and everything else. The implosion is about to happen anyway. And it will be time for leadership to even a voice if it's just to stand up and say. Maybe it's time. What can you tell to the audience because I left in 89 November 28. So you're literally after I left you're there. What what what is the IRGC like in Iran? How did they treat their people? How did they view the populace?

So I'm actually surprised over the last five, 10 years, five years, they kind of lost control a little bit after the 2022 protest with the hijab laws and all that. In the north of Iran, where the kind of the more rich people are, a lot of women, younger girls just walk around almost with like no headscarf. And for me, because when I was there, they the morality police were on top of it. And I was like, wow, that's still surprise. Always kind of isolated in the north. They don't really go there. It's a they have this massive hatred of the people and Iran. They don't see themselves as Iranian. And that's where people in Iran called them foreign occupiers or Arab occupiers. Some of them are actually born in Iraq, some of the leadership, but they're technically Iranian, but they're they are so ideologically Islam first that people don't see them as Iranians. There is this weird thing where they embed themselves in society so well they created an ingenious system. And again, it's all because of Rahul Al-Humayni, the first one who took over.

He studied a lot about Stalin, about the French Revolution as well. They realize you can't just be a dictator. You have to create a checks and balances for a dictatorship. So many branches. And that's you have the normal armed forces military. Then you got the IRGC military, which is parallel, but they're more in charge. And that's why people got excited 28th of February when Humayni got barbecued. Like, oh, there we go. Let's go and celebrate. But you can't just kill one dictator. You need to destroy the infrastructure, the actual, the result, drain them. And then you're going to have to have again leadership on the ground. So you at this point, the only option will be somebody in elements of the regular army to take temporary control until, you know, if the people want crown prince return or whatever happens next. Somebody needs to like be on the ground. You can't have the American troops on the ground because Iran is a big country. But what are you going to do? You're going to drop a few soldiers in the military around. That's not enough. They are everywhere. And they're on the ground.

So they were talking about the missiles and drones earlier on about the tiny drones. They don't even have ballistic missile launchers that will be destroyed. They have holes on the ground because they're from the missile cities. They launched missiles from there. So, so Americans keep trying to destroy those the entrances, obviously, but dropping bombs is not enough. The current operation is the best way. But again, let's just see how long it takes. Yeah, I mean, there's a concern of what's going to happen with that. I want to wrap up with the story, Vinny, for you as well. Because I know you wanted to talk about this with and tell or equal. I'm going to go to that as well. Tom is BB Benjamin that now faces storm over report. He ignored warning. He had a lot of other warning ahead of October seven attacks. And by the way, this is an NBC news story. This is not a blogger or podcast or that somebody just wrote this. Let me read this to you and then I'm going to come to you. It dropped like a political bombshell into next month's parliamentary election. A herit's report that Israeli Prime Minister BB had a warning about the October 7, 2023 attacks and chose not to alert senior officials.

The expose said you a president, Sheikh Mohammed bin Zaid, not Nayan told BB that Hamas leaders in Gaza were planning a major operation against Israel that could destabilize the entire region. And at net now reached with relative calm. He often called the report false saying that any relevant information was passed through intelligence channels and harass report he threatened to sue for libel. This is arrogance and a breach of trust that Israeli citizens placed hand in him and his government. The four main opposition party said the former military commander who is net, the house main rival in the October 27 election road. He is unfit former Prime Minister Nafdali and net, the out cannot serve in his position for even more than one minute. So I mean, there's a lot of things there. Any worry I would. Well, I mean, if it's true. And again, this is all reporting and I understand that this is the first election since October 7 happened. This and it was stopped because of October 7. Now on October 27. This is going to be coming back. But if this is true, I mean, 10 days before the worst attack that's happened to them since the Holocaust and Jews have had this attack 45 minute call.

The guy's warning you. This is happening. It's coming and you do nothing about it. And then if you remember, New York Times reported in November 2023, Israel had Hamas's 40 page Jericho wall plan. It said everything to the tea. What was going to happen? It described rocket drones knocking out border surveillance, breaching the Gaza border, paragliders, everything and nothing happened. And then in July 2023, a female analyst from Israel's unit, 8200 warned. This is the third one. Hamas was training in ways that they were going to be able to do this. They were training in ways that matched the Jericho wall plan and her concerns were that if you dismiss this because they, they, they dismissed this because they thought Hamas didn't have the capability. So in Israeli intelligence has the blueprint. And then you see Hamas rehearsing it and you guys do nothing about it. And let's not forget. Charlie Kirk, God rest his soul sat across from you on this podcast and said, Beebe and the Israeli. It's almost unfathomable. It's unbelievable that they let it happen and they didn't know about it.

And he said, he goes, guys, the size of Israel, he was just there, is the size of New Jersey. And we know the security. Everybody has an M16. Everybody is the IDF. Adam was just there. Everybody got guns. And I don't wanna hear, it's just weird that the excuse says, yeah, well, they got us. For six hours, it happened and nobody knew that. And it's not a far-fetched thing. I'm not blaming him or saying that they didn't think. But this type of intelligence failure, it's crazy. It's insane. And because of that day, look what happened. I just feel, and a lot of people are talking that the opposition, and Adam, I know you have the information of who it is. That guy's gaining momentum, Pat. And people are saying that a lot of people in Israel feel like they blamed BB for October 7th. That's the word from the people and that there was protests that day on the October 7th, that they wanted BB out, and then this story comes out. But there's one thing to mention though, because I spoke to some people from Israel and they said, after October 7th,

that we were taking Hezbollah more seriously than Hamas. One important thing here is that for us, as outside, as obviously, we just seen the actual reports and Israel and the Israeli government. And there's an election coming up. So this is in the interest of the opposition. So the people who are spreading this is the left-wing newspapers and the opposition, including Naftali Bennett, who actually like these guys, were also receiving the same warning five years before, because the same Hamas were already preparing, and they were even the left-wing, lepid and all the others, were still saying Hezbollah is more of a threat than Hezbollah than Hamas. So it's a fault of both sides, all of them. I agree. And you're still right to question like BB's governments, motives, for example, for a lot of things happens, like if there's a cult coming, maybe I should like change the topic, like I'm doing some military operations somewhere, but the other side would have done the exact same thing. That's the problem. The failure from both sides, the left-wing. You mean the failure of left on how they would have reacted to it?

The speed of it? The speed of it? The speed of it on the other side? That's a different conversation. Absolutely. The number six speeder is the speed. By the way, yes. We had Charlie on. October 7th happens. Five days later, Charlie was on a podcast. Do you want to play this? I don't want to play the whole thing, but just play a first minute of it. Go for it. Guys, not know this was taking place. So I've been to Israel many times. The whole country's a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still had the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe. I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that's an IDF soldier. Right, the whole country is surveilled. The last nine months, Israel is on the brink of civil war. It's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because BB Netanyahu is basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, right? He said the judicial branches too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu

where they anticipated tens of thousands of people that take to the streets. That's all gone, Patrick. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead. I'm not willing to say, to go so far that saying that Netanyahu knew where there was intelligence here. But I think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand-down order? Was there a stand-down order? Six hours? I don't believe it. Israel's the side of New Jersey. When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's 45 minutes. Six hours. Their live streaming, the killing of Jews, was that somebody in the government say stand-down. That is a legitimate, non-conspiracy question. The whole country is the IDF. The whole country is. And you're trying to tell me that they're going to concerts and cabutses and schools and buy reports six hours. Let's say it's three hours. That's suspect. There's a fair question right there. That's the part that's not been asked, Adam,

where are you at with this? Well, number one, respect to Charlie Kirk. This is the one-year anniversary of him and I'm biased, but that guy's the best. I might disagree with what he is assessment on that. Obviously things have changed. He hasn't been around for a year. But I like what you said, because a lot of what you said you were accurate and you're asking a lot of the right questions. I'll just state like actual facts. Number one, it's election season in Israel and this is a massive political attack on PB. All these people, enough to Ali Bennett, Gadi Eisenkot, all these people were in power as well. So you have to understand one thing, whether you're a pro-Israel guy, anti-Israel guy, understand this. BB is the Trump of Israel. So if you're used to Trump getting all the attacks here by the mainstream media and by the left, just imagine what BB is dealing with. And when I say BB has doubled Trump, I'd literally mean it, because Trump has won at least two elections, possibly three. BB is one six.

So a match, he's the longest serving Prime Minister in the world today in Israeli history. So the amount of attacks his guy's dealing with has been unsurmounted. And he's right now, he's fighting for his political life. And he may lose. Yeah, and all right now, this guy, Gadi Eisenkot, who was an IDF general, he's actually favored right now. And his son was actually lost during October 7th. I'll say this one other thing. October 7th is R9-11. And it's just kind of like co-lessing at the exact same time. You have to understand just logistically, geographically. I went to the area. It took me two and a half hours on a bus. On a Tuesday afternoon, where there was no traffic. It's going to take hours to get where this was. Understand this. 9-11 happened in the center of New York City, where this happened would be like, somewhere out there in Long Island. It's going to take you hours to get there. So we're here in Miami, South Florida. It'd be like it's happening in the Everglades. It's not close.

So that's the biggest difference. And you also said one more thing, my last point. They were way, and I interviewed and spoke to countless people. They were way more concerned with Hezbollah from Lebanon in the north than they were with Hamas. They basically said, there's a real army in Lebanon with Hezbollah with real backing from the IRGC. They basically were like these goat efforts with sandals in Hamas and Gaza. We're not worried about them. But guess what? They got caught slipping. And that's what happened. And to finish on that, to address what Charlie Kirk asked, the answer is relatively, you can answer it in terms of whether it's standing order. Stand down, or stand down, or stand down, or stand down order. Again, the politics in Israel is so vicious during the election times, the left and right and the media. And it's a small country and everybody's idea. I can assure you, if in order to bring down Netanyu, somebody within tell would have come to leak the actual stand-and-order. So somebody would have had one of the generals,

someone would have said, actually, at least with that conspiracy, they'd stand down order. They stand so many troops to the north, even on that day when it was happening, because missiles were coming from all sides. Because yeah, here's a small media announcement. Yes, we've entered, because we are now waiting for our brothers from the west, from the east, from the north, everyone to come. So everyone's panicking, but it still needs to be questioned, they're discreetly of it. It's still a bit of a mess. But yeah, down there in the south, it's still a desert until we get to the border with Gaza. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, okay. Great. So last but not least, Tom, Tallerico. Do we want to talk about Charlie little? Let me go into the story, Adam. And so page number eight on Tallerico. So Tom, is this a dendom? We're talking about Tallerico. Yeah, just to part that Tom broke down about what's going on with Tallerico. Tallerico says he missed the mark as he backtracks on controversial woke statements. So Tom, can you do me a favor? What has changed in the last week or two that's getting Tallerico to sound more sensible and coming more to the center?

So pulling all the polls going to 727, have Tallerico five, four, even six, nine eight to nine, nine, an insider advantage, which is I would give it a B. You know, it's certainly it's it's a questionable poll like many polls are. All of a sudden it comes down. He's only one up on Paxon. And in the entire month of August, there I counted seven different unique articles coming from liberal publications, including the Austin statesmen, which is the Austin newspaper pat that we're saying. Tallerico has a problem with the black voters, and it is around LGBTQ and transgenderism. The has a problem with it. And then the other articles come out. Oh, no, no, he's getting a majority of black votes. Yeah, well, let me tell you, 55, 45 on the black vote for Tallerico is an L because that means he doesn't have enough of them to win because the independence.

So the poll comes out pat. There is your playing field. Polls five to six points suddenly one point on a poll. And people talking about he's got a problem with the black vote. Then he comes out and says, yeah, I think my statement was overly broad. You know, I'm not I'm not in favor of banning you know, I am. I'm favor banning gender surgery for minors and opposed transgender identifying. This is the same guy. What says, you know, I love transgenders. When I think about this, I think about transgenders. That same guy and God is on binary. Yes. So all the sudden he's shifting. So let me tell you what's happening now. He was way out there on the other side of DSA. And he thought that he was safe to be there. And he thought that with John Cornex getting beat by Ken Paxon, Ken Pascan being, oh, not another white guy. Here's a middle-aged white guy career politician in Texas. This is going to be our chance. We're going to get a Senate seat out of it.

This thing isn't over, but it's completely changed because Toleriko is showing himself to be completely too faced. And it's the polls and it's the moderate voters and the black vote all in the last 30 days. And the poll in the last week that's gone, WAM and all the sudden he's on Fox. Maybe I misspoke. Yeah. Are you at this point thinking Pascan's going to win? Pascan's got work to do, but they're working really hard. Toleriko has received $68 million in total campaign raises. Pascan since the primary is raised nine. And Pascan's one point behind. I think Texas is going to wake up. He's going to win this, but Pascan can't take traditional red Texas and turn out for granted. He's got to work his ass off and he needs to start working now. Because he's being outspent and he's getting national dollars that are flowing into Toleriko. It's the same. The same way. Oh my god. It's the same playbook. They thought that they could get House of Representative Texas 24.

Kenny Marchant was retiring and a woman who is the mayor of in one of the cities in and around, you know, Dallas. Here she is Irvings mayor, a Beth Van Dyne, who ran in Texas 24, outspent by Nancy Pelosi and a Hispanic woman crazy liberal that was dropped into Texas. She barely had residency requirement when she ran. Beth Beater and Beth is stayed there. But that shows you that Texas will wake up, but it also shows you what the Dems are willing to do to get Texas. Well, also, look, Texas should be red. I think we all know that about Texas. But I don't know if you saw this Trump, the Maga pack, they typically don't give money to Texas. They give 10 million dollars to Ken Paxton to beat Toleriko, $5 million to be spent on TV ads, another $5 million on just attack ads, playing with Toleriko says about God being a non-binary and eating steak with gloves.

Like, and I said this before, in Texas, you have two choices right now. You're getting a vote for a cowboy, Ken Paxton, or a little boy, name Audi Doody, James Toleriko, and it's 50-50 at this point. To me, if this is what Texas is becoming, just go ahead and succeed and become your own state Texas. That's crazy. That's a sad reality because back in the day, not even that long ago, even 10, 15 years ago, a liberal, a blue candidate could win theoretically Texas or some of the places, but only if they are to the right of the Democrats, like in a JFK sort of type. They have to pretend to be still more conservative. The reason they can be arrogant like this is because they're getting the cities. The cities are falling. Even the big cities in Texas, Austin, that wasn't the case before. Yes, people always used to say, obviously, the people outside cities are more conservative, and more independent cities are more outgoing, and more liberal, but it was still more intellectual, even Seattle, the back in the 90s or 80s. It was still a fight between blue and red, but now Republican.

This comes back to the whole border situation. When you have 10 million people come to the border, not just during Biden, but years and years prior, and you basically have a lot of South Americans who are used to socialism and free things, all of a sudden become citizens or voting, whatever. Now you got to Halifereko, potentially as your senator. You're exactly correct. Once upon a time, this woman named Anne Richards was the governor of Texas. She would today look like a moderate leaning a little right, Pat. But she was that, love, that, the old school Democrat. And George Bush showed up in 1994 and kicked her butt from Dallas, to Houston, and back again when the real conservative Texas realized it. But remember who did destroyed? He destroyed someone back in those days that would have been a centrist, you know, from the Democrats. But so it shows you where Texas is gone, is that when the cities get invaded, made purple, primarily from California coming to Austin, you're exactly right what you're saying about the city. If you look at, if you look at Calcice right now,

if you look at Calcice right there, look, look what you'll notice on what's happened with Texas Senate winner. Red was like, oh, there's no way in the world anyone's going to do anything. And this is an $11.6 million dollar number we're talking about. There's a lot of votes in here. There's a lot of votes here and look where it's at today. Can you come to exactly where it's at today? Exactly where it's at. Talleriko is 50, 50, but a slight lead. He's got a slight lead over Paxon. I think this thing's going to go down to the wire. And you know, this tells us a story here. But I'm making assessment on this because you lived in Texas. So and you obviously lived in Texas and I had one almost year in Addison. We'll give it to you. The Republicans, let's call them out. They're not running great candidates. Yeah. Like this guy, yeah, yes, I'd rather have a conservative Texan, you know, not DSA member as my representative or as my senator. Yes. But let's just at least acknowledge what's happening. The DSA is running young, vibrant, weird, woke candidates against old,

stale, male, pale, stale people in Texas or even in, in Maine, you got, what's a lady in Maine that keep the, the, the, when that sign abortions up to, no, no, no, no, who's been the Senator in Maine forever? What's your name? You know, I'm talking about. Anyway, they're running the, they're running the one candidates, Susan Kaskat. You're running all these old, stale Republicans. There needs to be a fresh batch of young, vibrant, conservative Republicans. I think it's very, very, very, very, very, very good feedback on doing some like that. By the way, before we wrap up, the one year, I cannot believe the one year anniversary was Charlie Kirk was just what a couple of days ago yesterday. At the vault, we played a video, five in a video, dedicating to Charlie. And I can't, it was amazing seeing the reaction of people, of how everybody got up. And if you, just look at Twitter, you said, everybody tell them their own Charlie Kirk story. Anthony asked me a question that says, what's your favorite Charlie Kirk story? And I told them a couple of them.

You know, of him, us having lunch and, you know, 2023, him being one of the speakers, he was speaking at the event at PHP convention that's, Kabeep was speaking at. And Will Gidero was speaking at from 11, 11 medicine. And he got up and he did his thing, his soul, the America. When he sells America, nobody did it better than he did. May he rest in peace. We're always, and I tell you always thinking about this man, who could have been only 31 years old, but he was the one that was holding the Republican Party together as crazy as it sounds. People twice as age were calling him for advice. And this is a 31 year old man who had the wisdom of a 75, 80 year old every day this man is missed. Every day this man is missed. And I think his legacy is going to continue for many, many years to come. So with that being said, gang, with everybody, great spending time with you all to see, we're phenomenal. Glad to have you here looking forward to having you on many, many more times. If you don't follow to see stuff, you can easily go find his channel out there. He's everywhere T-O-U-S-I, one S, T-O-U-S-I, two C.

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