
Lindsey Clancy Mistrial, August Jobs Report & J.D. Vance Defends Tucker | PBD Podcast #852
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Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team break down Apple’s new era after Tim Cook steps down as CEO, the Lindsay Clancy trial ending in a stunning mistrial, and Lululemon founder Chip Wilson’s billionaire divorce. Plus, Iran escalates, Florida’s housing market tumbles, AI faces a major backlash, and Andrew Tate is hit with a new indictment.
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PBD Podcast — Lindsey Clancy Mistrial, August Jobs Report & J.D. Vance Defends Tucker | PBD Podcast #852. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
for one week aside from an interview that was dropped last week, which seems like you guys really like with Ted Cruz. It was a great conversation. We were at the Vol conference and it was a phenomenal event. And I want to start off with a prayer that I read to everybody at the Vol conference. Everybody said, Pat, please send it to us. I said, I'm just going to read it Monday morning on the podcast to start off the podcast and a great week. And if you're tuning in today, today's what labor day, right? Yes, sir. You mean to tell me the folks in California got up at six o'clock, you'll listen to us. If you're from West Coast, okay? And you're on Pacific Standard Time. Please in the comment section, say, I'm in California, give us the city. If you're West Coast, what city, what state Pacific Standard Time major respect for you? We have the best smartest wisest group in the world that listens to this podcast. And best looking, and best dress. We can't miss the best looking part out. But let me read this prayer to you. Have them. Father, I come to you right now with everything that is on my mind. Quiet the noise, calm
my nerves, show my thoughts. Remind me that I do not have to control everything because you are in control. Your words says, be still and know that I am God. Psalm 4610. So right now, Lord, help me be still. Replace my anxiety with peace. Replace my fear with faith. Replace my uncertainty with trust. Replace the pressure I feel with confidence that you are with me. Give me a clear mind, steady hands, wise words, and a peaceful heart. Whatever happens next, remind me that my identity comes not from the outcome. I don't need to impress anyone. I don't need to be perfect. I simply need to be present, prepared and faithful. The Lord is my shepherd. I shall not want Psalm 231. Father, go before me. Give me the courage of David, the wisdom of Solomon, the patience of Job, and the peace that only comes from you. I surrendered this moment to you. I can do all things for the Christ who strengthens me, Philippians 413. My mind is settled. My heart is steady. My confidence is in you in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. So this was the prayer that I read and Vinnie was dying to cough
man. He's like going crazy. I was coughier. But we had a great event. We had a great event. We have Stephen Bartlett there who crushed it. I think when the reviews come out, he was, he's going to be a fan favorite 90 minutes. And then we had Logan Paul, which at some moment, you listened to a Logan Paul, he said, I hate this guy. I think I like this guy. My God, I love this guy. This guy's freaking phenomenal. It was such a roller coaster with him. He's a showman and a half. He just came in and owned the stage. And then we had Floyd Mayweather, text last minute shows up, comes does the interview. And you know what? Here's a deal. I'm the best. I'm the best. There's ever been a you know, I asked the question on top and I can't wait for you to see it. I'm like, so do you believe in affirmations? He said, what? He said, what'd you say? He thought I said something bad. But I froze or something. Do you believe in affirmations? He got upset with me. I said, no, no. Like, do you tell yourself like, you know, great things about yourself? He says, I'm the best. I'm the greatest. There's ever been. And his confidence in himself was beautiful. And then of course, we had Joe Montana and Jerry Rice. Joe Montana was fired up. He wouldn't even let Jerry
speak. Joe the entire time he was so like intense about the whole thing. We had a fun time with him. Jerry was phenomenal. Dan Martell got on the stage did his thing. Nick Shirley got up and you guys interviewed him. And but it was a good time. Tom did phenomenal with his session. We had a very good network after party at the formula one day made me dance Armenian. I would play this video for you. But I can't because Arama Satorians and the in the in the music center back. We don't want to get, you know, we could show them. It was like we're going to get the river dancing on a tour. Like your leg with a torn ACL. We were dancing. You were on fire. If you were there, we had a great time. If you weren't there, I'm telling you do yourself a favor. The next one is not for another year. Just trust me on this one. Don't miss the next one. You'll see why the greatest network in session ever. But let's get right into we got a lot of stories to cover. We've been off for a week. Nike. How much money is Nike lost time? The stock in the last five years, seven years, 82% 81% ridiculous. What's going on with Nike and Lulu lemon comes up. They had their
own set of stories and the CEO and his wife are going through a nasty divorce. There's not a prenup there. You know, the line is very simple either you sign a prenup or the woman has a prenup with the US government because you have a prenup no matter what. And the prenup is the government already has a prenup in structure in place for you if you don't go get your own terms, they're going to dictate the terms. But we'll talk about Nike and Lulu lemon. This lady, Lindsey Clancy, one juror, this one guy that saved the day. So I did the 12 jurors and nine word women, three men of the three two sided with her saying, you know, she's innocent. Though one guy is like, no, no, no, no, I'm not doing this because of one guy. This lady didn't walk. Now she probably would have gone to some kind of a mental hospital, things like that. But she would have walked after killing her three, she would have walked with $1.2 million. Can you imagine that message to the world? Hey, go kill your kids. Well, raise you $1.2 million and you'll walk because
it's not your fault. Somebody else's fault. You know, you didn't do it. It's not your fault. Another video is going viral with a guy that saying he was about to get married $200,000 out of wedding. He put any comes in and tells the girl tells the girl, I'm out. We ain't getting married because they just asked her simple question. What do you think about it? We're at dinner. I'll even bring up what we talked about at dinner. Could you be friends with somebody? That's it. She could walk. You have a relative. You're in the summer vacation. You're going out hanging out together. One of the people there says, this girl's innocent. She should walk. Could you see yourself living in the same house with somebody for three weeks, which your kids being there? No, with somebody that believes it's a conversation that we'll have in San it. US jobs report came in with 162,000 jobs of which you guys ready for this? I think this is sexist, man. I really do. I think I think they have something against all the men, by the way, you know, out of the 162,000 jobs we created 98% of them were for women, only 2% were for men. Guys, if you got a job in a last quarter,
listen, respect to you because you're probably the only person I got in last quarter. The other than 98% were all women. Tom will give us that report. Tucker Carlson, JD Vance, JD Vance comes up and clears up his friendship with Tucker Carlson after saying this L side guys evil after Tucker comes out and says he would never vote for the guy that's going against L side. Mike Rogers, he never would. You're just a bunch of things going on because JD's got to clear up his relationship with Tucker because his son, Tucker's some buckly used to work for JD. So there's some things there for 2020 and I'm just trying to clean it up to see what's going to happen with the votes. Florida housing market story comes out and listen, the Florida housing market may be taking ahead. Venezuela's oil deal with Chevron giving $7 billion and I don't remember if you remember the Chevron CEO was it where it's like, well, I don't know if we're going to put anything there because the infrastructure of Venezuela is not that good. They came back and said that we'd like to put another $7 billion into it. That's a massive, massive deal that the US did with Venezuela will address that and then a man, this is a very, very difficult but a video we must watch a father
of daughter, named by illegal alien slams Democrats saying there's no way you guys are sorry and look, said everyone's faces and says that to their faces, you just have to watch this clip because the way this guy did it. I just, you know, obviously, a hard, difficult, difficult story, but we got to watch this together. And by the way, the WNBA, the commissioner, Kathy Engelberg, they're not renewing contract. I wonder why I thought she was crushing it. She was doing a great job and you know, they say she's going to be stepping down by the end of the year and resigning. That's one way of Adam Silver saying you're fired. You know what I like about David Stern, Tom? David Stern would have said you're fired. Get the hell out of here. David Stern was like a mobster, but Adam's a little bit more diplomatic. Now who knows? Maybe David Stern would have done it in a different way. I don't want to say anything. He was a good commissioner. He was a good commissioner. He's a guy that I really liked. He was tough. He was strong and some people say, maybe she should play baseball for two years. Yeah, maybe she should just leave and, and you know, change it up. Tim Cook stepping out from Apple, you know, a lot of people are wondering what kind of
money he got paid and a new guy that's coming and he's going to change anything. What's going to happen? What was his legacy? Like, guess here about what happened with the Clippers? I mean, the Clippers are getting fine. 30 million dollars and losing five first round draft picks because the way the Clippers and Balmer did a deal with a quiet Leonard, which by the way, probably the worst deal in the history, they got nothing for quiet Leonard. They thought they were going to win a couple championships. They thought the Clippers were going to be the king of LA and replacing Lakers. And there's a famous line by Charles Barkley. He says, I'll say when we get into the story, I'll say when we get into the story, it's a it's a phenomenal. He says, I've been poor. I've been rich. He says, I've been fat. I've been skinny. The Clippers have sucked all along. Tiger Woods got a, you know, latest DUI. He got a five year suspension on his license, which I think the world's a safer place with Tiger now driving. Do just go get a driver. I know what it is to like to drive. I love driving, but just go get a driver. It's probably better for society. The Tiger
is now driving. And then there's a guy. This is Vinnie's favorite story that, you know, the last two stories are Vinnie's stories. He loves these stories. One of them is about Gaze, where Gaza, you know, activists that what happens to him? He was shot and killed with his friend or lover by a Muslim guy that hates Gaze. I know that's going to, that's a shocking story. But yeah, you're exactly right. He a Muslim man shot a gaze for Gaza activist here. What does this have to do with Milo? Milo got deported because he overstayed his visa. He was, you know, he thought nothing was ever going to happen. They deported him. And now he's there. He's in the UK. He's not in the States anymore. He's in the UK. He's in the UK. Now he's inside of mosque. I know people are like, he's a troll and everything. But guess what? He's wearing the outfit. He's sitting in the mosque. And I'm just, I'm curious to where he's going to go. If he's actually going to go through it 100% and go to go to the middle of the, I want to make sure I'm clear, because I thought that was very helpful. A guy that says Gaze for Gaza who never read the
Quran. Yes. Um, gets shot and killed by a guy who read the Quran and did exactly what it told me. 1000% and I have a, okay, I just want to be sure. Yeah. And I do have a weird, good summary time. I do have a weird take once we get there. If we get there about how this kind of correlate, maybe this goes to the next story because this next one is Hunter Biden who's set in an interview is 48% gay is thinking about running for president and down lemon who is 100% gay. He's going to do it. So respectfully. I'd love to actually see it. Not, not even mocking or rage baiting or anything. I trolling. I just would love to see these. I would like a lot of people running in 2028. A lot of people run. The more people running, the more we get in shape, I think it's a good thing for more people to run. Anyways, what makes the Democrat debate must see TV, man. Make that being said. I didn't get what that meant. Tom, but let's, let's, let's, with all these guys are running on stage. I would actually watch. Oh, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. I got so that makes sense. Maybe got to clarify a little bit with a disclaimer at the bottom. Gang. With all this stuff being said, one of the moments at the vault that was very, very emotional was when we dedicated a section of the vault to the late great
Charlie Kirk. It was so interesting how everybody, almost everybody in the room got up. Many were in tears remembering this great man. And as strangers, this is, this is his one year is coming up just in a few days this week, just in a few days this week. And we remember all of us remember, I remember what happened when, you know, Kobe Bryant died. I remember exactly where I was at season 52 in Dallas. I'll never forget where I was at when Charlie Kirk was assassinated and killed. We were at the vault conference. Tony Robbins was on stage. I got up and Tom prayed. And today what we want to do is we are launching a limited edition hat of Charlie Kirk numbered out of 250 and 100% of anything you buy of Charlie Kirk's merch that we have on our site is going to go to a local Florida chapter of TPUSA that young men and young women that are going out to working with kids. And we have to directly, this is not going directly to TPUSA. It's not going directly.
This money is going to be given to local chapters that are actually doing a good work going to kids teaching about solid principles, values and principles. So with that being said, if you want to play this clip, and then we'll get right into it. Go for it. Some voices don't just speak. They make people stop and listen. Only in America is it possible to say, you know what? I don't like the way the country is going and to do something about it. A movement around the idea that your voice matters, your beliefs matter and standing for what you believe in matters. Take that leap of faith. Stay involved. Trust God and act obediently. This is about remembering the message, carrying the conversation forward and never being afraid to speak your mind. God will use all things, all things for good for those who love it. A life remember a voice not forgotten. You know what gives me strength? The hundreds of thousands of you. You just hear his voice. I can listen to him for hours and hours and hours of Charlie. Go to
flb.com. If you go to flb.com on the cover, if you type shop now right there, if you can click shop now and you get the status numbered out of 250, 100% of anything you buy with live free on, there's going to be going to a local chapter. So you're directly and indirectly supporting a local chapter to continue his great legacy. Go to flb.com. The hats are limited only 250 of them. You know how this works. Whether it's something that you buy and just keep in your collection forever and for many years to come or it's something that you give to somebody who Charlie Kirkman, a lot to you are directly and indirectly supporting a local chapter. Would that be in said? Let's get right into it. The story I want to start off with is a story of, you know, of trying to see which one I want to go with. Let's go with the jobs report story. So US jobs report comes in. Okay. US jobs report comes in. Everybody's kind of looking at this thing saying, what does it look like? What is the numbers? What is it saying? And some people are worried that the rates may be increasing. Wait a minute. We're going to increase the
interest rates. Yes, we are. Really? Yes. Why? Trump saying don't don't don't don't increase it. You better lower it. We desperately need it. America needs a decreasing of interest rates. Yes, we're thinking about it. No, I'm telling you, you got a lower interest rates. Women accounted for almost all of job gains in August. And here's why. Wait, you mean all of it? 98% of all the job gains we got were for women. So they accounted for 158,000 of 162,000 of August jobs added. 98% while men added just 4,000 praise CNBC analysis over the past year employed women grew by 870 while employed men fell by nearly one and a half million. How are we doing? Did you hear what I just said? Yeah. 870 women grew. One and a half million men declined the driver's health care. The engine of job growth were upwards. Of four and five workers are women and local government education, which had 42,000 jobs in a field
where women held nearly three courts of positions. Women also showed hiring strength and male-dominator manufacturing women's unemployment fell to 3.9 while men's is at 4.4. We are in a midst of a shift that is changing right before our eyes set. Indeed, hiring labs Laura, Ulrich, a woman, but she cautioned the story is not purely positive. Women earn less. So their hiring share may signal to tilt towards lower wage roles and some gains reflect women juggling multiple jobs. Navy federal health. Heather Long noted monthly gender data is volatile and pointed to the longer term mom session trend of mothers leaving the workforce top. Why is this so important? This is a big report because of what's in it. You touched on a couple things. The first thing that you touched on was bars and restaurants also known as hospitality. Added 59,000 jobs. Local government driven education public school. Added 42,000. But that's a seasonally expected number. What month is it? August, what are you doing?
We're going back to school. What are you doing to go back to school? You're higher your teachers, your part-timers come back and things. So together, that was 62% of the entire jobs report path. But on the other side of it, this, they also revised up July a little bit and they revised up June a little bit, which means that overall it was a good report. But these two sectors dominated it and we didn't get as much as we really want to see like a manufacturing and where you have real industry going. And on the other side of it, the impact of the report is going to be much greater with the Fed. Because now it almost guarantees that the Fed's going to be stepping toward a rate hike when there's people out there including me that are saying, I think the rate should be lower. Now, the White House, they believe it should be lower and they believe that for a lot of good reasons. But typically, the president wants lower rates for interest rates and a lot of other things for
business. So you would expect that from the White House. I look at it and Chris Waller, who's not head of the Fed, Chris Waller, he's just saying, hey, not so fast on the rate hike, not so fast. This jobs report doesn't mean that we have an overheating economy and inflation. This, you need to not raise the rates. So the voice is coming out. But the impact of this job report on potential rates and making a rate hike is bad. Even though the jobs by and large was good, although we did have some seasonal things to educate Adam. So there's a couple main characters here. There's obviously President Trump. And then there's the new chairman of the Fed, Kevin Worsh. So if you're not familiar with who Kevin Worsh is, he's the new guy in charge. We're about to find out if Trump is actually a king. Because for years, he was basically lambasting what's our former Fed Jerome Powell, loser, sucker, no rate, no cut. He's just basically just admonishing him and
just going hard at him. Then he has his is opportunity to pick who he wants as the chairman of the Fed. And the one concern was, is this guy going to just do what Trump says? And here we're we're founding out. There's a solid jobs report. And ultimately, the a strong jobs report removes the Fed's excuse to cut rate, right? So the Fed can either mess with rates. Like the Fed is like a DJ. The volume, all right, the dance floor is packed. We're going to cut rates. We're going to turn up the volume. They're just doing one of two things. That's an interesting way to look at it. I agree. They're turning up the volume. The dance floor is packed. They're going to they're going to keep rates the same. They're just constantly just using the the the the job market as a way to understand how the economy is moving and basically how the dance floor is going. The bottom line is this, Kevin Worsh is going to have an opportunity to basically stand up and say, nope, I'm in charge. The Fed is independent. And I'm going to keep rates what they are potentially even a rate hike or I'm going to do exactly what Trump wants him to do and do a rate cut. What do you think's going to
happen? I think he's actually going to keep rates the same. You don't think it's going to raise. I don't think he's going to raise. I think the pressure is on him to raise because the Fed is mistaking something. I am with the people that said, listen, beef is a supply shock. It's not sector full inflation. It is, are the prices up? Yes. Could you call that inflation? You could, but you would be wrong. It's a supply spike. Oil is a supply spike and a refinery shortage. Those aren't like inflation in the the overall market path. And with the inflation up and the overheating from the jobs report, now Worsh, I think is leaning toward raising. I'd actually love to see him raise the rates. That would be bad. But I'm going to tell you why I'd like to see that happen. No, no, no, hear me out for a second. I'd like to see him raise the rates. I know it would be bad. And I know the market's going to tank when he raises the rates. But I'd love to see him raise the rates. And then guess what he does right after. So let's just say he raises a quarter.
And the next time he has a chance to raise the rates or keep it the same, he lowers it half a point. What message does that send to the world? The message that sends to the world is one, he's independent, Trump hired somebody that is going to make up their own minds. He's not just going to do what Trump wants him to do. And guess what? He's going to get his chance right now. We're what month? What month are we in right now? September? One's the next time he's going to get a chance to mess with the rates. September, I think it's some 17 to 19th. I think it's the Fed if you guys could look that up. And then what's the next one Tom? And the meetings of 17, 19 be Halloween. I think if you look up, Halloween will be right before midterms, right? Let me, let me see. I think I'm remaining 26 schedule guys right there right there. Guys, it's right below there. So go a little bit lower September, October 27, 28. So to me, I actually, I'd like to see him raise the rates a little bit. Although I don't think he's going to. I think it's going to say flat. I don't think nothing's going to be happening. Well, as long as he doesn't lower the rates, he's going to show that he's independent of Trump because Trump is basically out there yelling at anyone
who will listen. The United States needs to have the cheapest rates. Lowest rates, lowest borrowing calls. And Kevin Warsher is going to have an opportunity to basically make a name for himself. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what it'll take place. Let me get to the next story here. Okay. The next story is with Lindsey Clancy. We're at the event. And all of a sudden, like, Mr. Straal, Mr. Straal, Mr. What do you mean, Mr. Straal? Yeah, Mr. Straal. Wait, added the 12 jurors. How many were on her side? 11 of the 12 jurors. What sexes were they? Nine women, three men, nine women all sided with her of the three men, two sided with her, one did not. And the one that did not, I cannot tell you how many times, including the judge, try to tell this guy, Hey, get in line. Okay, get in line. And the guy's like, no, not backing down this guy. I've seen some pictures of this guy. And who knows whether these pictures are right or wrong if it's him or not, because you know, they're trying to protect them. I mean, you can literally pull up the 12 jurors and identify the three males. Can you pull up the 12 jurors on the
Clancy case and go through the three men that are on this. One of them said, no, this woman is guilty. There's no way she's innocent. She is guilty. And next thing, you know, it's a mistrial. So now, we were one juror away from this woman who was already raised $1.2 million on what he called it, on GoFundMe and killed her three kids. She could have walked. That's the system we're in right now. She could have walked. So it absolute, I got a bunch of questions on this that I want to go to. And then I'm going to come to you first, Lindsey Clancy trial ends in mistrial with no verdict. What happens next? This is what everybody wants to know. What is going to happen next with this story? Right? Everybody wants to know what happens next with this story. Let me read it to you. So the trial ended in a mistrial. They seven of the deliberations after the jury reported a single holdout and said it could not reach unanimity on whether she was criminally responsible
for strangler three children on January of 2023. Clancy returns to a state hospital, Tuxbury, where she has been held since 2023. Deatemathy Cruz will decide whether to read tri-first degree murder, downgrade charges, offer plea or drop the case. I'm going to be meeting with our team. He said, giving no timeline, Reddington said, if a fall retrial happens, she'll be ready. Legal experts expect a retrial citing the Karen read preceded a retired after a 2024 hung jury then acquitted. I think they'll likely come back a second time, said CBS analyst, Caroline Pelosi, noting prosecutors made some pretty big missteps. They could fix including their argument that Clancy faked her suicide attempt. Jurorshirt 85 witnesses, 200 pieces of evidence across nearly six weeks, nobody can agree out here. So why would the jury agree, Pelosi said of the polarized public? Vinnie? Well, I mean, this is one of those cases that is going to set a
precedent. I sent Connor the story already, already in Illinois, a mother was charged with murder in death of her two year old, prosecutors say Cory Walsh had recently become very interested in the Lindsey Clancy case and had spoke of harming her other three children and her husband. So we have to be very careful of what's happening. Okay. And just FYI, because I'm going to have Connor play these two videos from the psychologists that we're on the stand. Lindsay developing post-partum psychosis eight months after giving birth would make her such an extreme statistical outline. Like post-partum psychosis occurs in one to two out of every 1000 births. So usually begins with the first couple of weeks and then it becomes increasingly rare the more time passes. So she was at eight months. Excuse me. Okay. Eight months. So think about the time and look at the circumstances. She she's at the house. She's researching how long her husband Patrick, how long the trip to the restaurant would take. She sent them out. She added another errand and then she became psychotic during the precise 18 minute window that she created. Okay. And in that window,
she claims that she heard a voice for the first time to kill all three children. Okay. And she also missed her husband's phone call, but then deliberately called him back, which shows that she remained aware of the situation and the risk of him returning early. Okay. And then the alleged psychosis ended with the treatment or the intervention path. This guy right here. Did you see this? This is Kurt Hillbrum just to give you his credit. He's a psychologist board certified in both clinical and forensic psychology. He testified that he does not bother. This is a doctor. This isn't TikTok people and women liberal women flipping out. He does not believe that she was experiencing acute psychosis. And he said that those voices never returned. And it's very he didn't say very once. Very, very rare. Can you play this Connor? The way she described this is happening is that she heard a voice that she'd never heard before experienced an hallucination. And she's never experienced it since. But she only experienced it for the 18 years. Weird. Or so that it took to kill children.
And to put it mildly mild would be a very very unusual. Could you stop it? And he goes on. This guy was one of the best witnesses that have for a doctor to use the word very, very unusual means it's probably not real. Okay. And then this is another guy. Psychiatrist Dr. Avram Mack testified that she suffered from depression and anxiety, but showed no evidence of psychosis or by polar mania when she killed the kids. Could you play this? Do you recall what she reported about the voice? Her experience was that the voice was of a male and it was loud. And what did the voice say? The voice said to the effect of you should kill the kids. This is your last chance so that you can kill yourself. And what did she say happened after she heard this voice? She engaged in the activity of taking her children's lives. And what did she say that she said when she did that?
What did that? She described that while that was happening she was saying out loud go to God. And the coupons and coupons that kind of... So Pat ready for this? And he goes into saying that her saying that is so significant. Go to God because it shows that she understood the children were innocent. Okay. And believe that they would go to God and understood what was happening to them was wrong. Okay. Put that to the side. And I keep hearing this nonsense that driving me crazy of she didn't have support. Are you ready for this? Her husband took paternity leave. Worked from home to help her. Ran her errands. Picked up her medications. Picked up her food. They had a nanny. Both set of grandparents helped her. She attended an outpatient postpartum program five days a week. Saw six doctors and nurses practitioners and had 13 medications prescribed her. And apparently some people are blaming this medication called Remarorn. Pat, it's a psychosis. It listed an extremely rare adverse reaction. But she was also taking anti-psychotics at the same time. So this whole stop the narrative that she was abandoned and nobody cared and
everything. Everything that she did, guys, was methodical. She knows what she was doing. She wanted to freaking kill them. She didn't like the husband. And this was her way all I'm going to kill myself. And he walks in and we haven't heard it. But from listening to testimony of witnesses of people that heard the 911 call, I have this transcript. He was screaming. Like she said, this woman said, I've never heard a grown man scream these these these these at this level saying, Oh my God, she killed them. And she took them in all different rooms. And she killed her. So enough of all this. This is in Massachusetts, Boston, all liberals and for the judge to come out and yell at him. And basically, you have to follow my instructions. Means he's he wants her to freaking walk as well. So there's a there's a new trial that's going to happen. I hope the prosecution goes for it. And she never guys, if she is out in public after two years of being in a nuncle board as a society as human beings, the system has failed. Yeah. But did you see did you see the clip of the judge comparing the male juror holding out against the other 11? To England standing alone against Nazi Germany. Did you see that? Have you guys see this or no?
Okay. So I have to show you this even it's it's it's pretty crazy because I was on gold who does a great job. He responded to this guys. I don't know if in the back you have it or not. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna send it to you when you guys can prepare this while you're preparing this. I want to read something else to you. You ready for this, folks? This is what upsets and irritates a lot of people. Let me give you a few other cases except let's flip it and it's a man. Ready? Timothy Jones Jr. killed five of his kids in 2014. Ages one two eight in South Carolina in 2014. You know what ended up happening to him? Death sentence. John Bataglia killed two of his kids shot his daughter six and nine while their mother listened over the phone. Death sentence executed in 2018. Anthony Milan Ross murdered his 11 year old son eight month old daughter and ex-wife on Christmas day. You ready? Death sentence sentence May 2026 death sentence May 2026. Cameron Todd Willinkham convicted of intentionally
setting fire that killed his three daughters. Death sentence executed in 2004 conviction remains highly controversial. Chad Dorman executed Dorman as DOERMAN executed his three young sons in Ohio in 2023. Prosecutors initially sought death ultimately life without parole after plea agreement. The Timothy Jones one is particularly relevant for the following reason. He killed his five kids and prosecutors argued for death despite defense evidence concerning serious mental health problems. The juror sentenced him to death in 2019 wasn't even a like conversation. Not 11 to 1, 9 to 2. No, no, kill this guy. John Bataglia is another extraordinary example. He murdered his two daughters while their mother was listening. He was sentenced to death in 2000 and to an execute in 2018. His attorneys later argued that severe mental illness made him incompetent to be executed but the courts rejected the claim. So you notice a pattern here where the arguments being made to
say well but you don't understand postpartum you know and you see a lot of conservative saying stuff like well wait a minute if you're going through it give up the kids right give them up. Tom said this at dinner the other day give them up let let the state take care of him give him up too fast if you're really going through this the country sitting there say well look if you're that crazy that you may kill your kids let's just take the kids away from you and you know what this can go to is if all of a sudden the mother who just had kids is on SSR you're taking these types of medication that Vinnie was reading earlier let's not give you the responsibility on raising kids by yourself so either take the medication without the kids or don't take the medication and raise the kids so if you take the medication the kids are going away you got to make up your mind here what's going to be happening because this is going to set the tone for a lot I want you to watch us clip here as well for the argument being made by the judge go for it. Members of the jury at this point I'm going to declare that the jury is deadlocked and I'm going to declare a mistrial. Oh no idea I just wanted to make a comment. I'm going to hear a comment and I'm
going to cover history buff and during World War II Winston Churchill was the prime minister for England that's right when England pretty much stood against not to Germany alone and so Churchill oftentimes had to talk to the citizens and say let us brace for our duties I always like afraid. I thought that phrase when all of you were brave to be honest you're doing something what's going on. You're brave for that duty and each one of you knew how long the case was going to go you knew how difficult the case was going to be to listen to facts wise but still what an analogy for that duty and I just can't imagine that when you're listening to this time how do you process this with the judge saying this how ridiculous is this. It to be on ridiculous and by the way you know this this whole thing with these Lindsey apologists it to me it's kind of nuts how long
have they been talking about feminism hey we can do anything a man can do we demand equal rights you know we want we can endure pregnancy childbirth and all this thing we want equal rights I agree with that they want equal rights we want to do this and now they take this old guy who spends the entire defense saying that women are fragile and that he is now they call him the voice of feminism the voice of feminism just spent how long in trial basically saying that women who have kids or you know can be classified as nuts and I disagree with that characterization of postpartum which I believe is real and I think the judge going up I think there were so much angles here Pat that was just a mockery it's just sort of collisions of logic and now we want to redefine women as damsels and distress slave to hormones that have not partially cared for they can go off the reservation and kill their kids oops I don't buy it you're they don't see what they're doing they're setting what they used to call feminism back you know and that's just and I was never about feminism
I was about basic equality you could have a job you could do this can you do everything a man can on a on a football field no let's not go there because they take it the other way but this just shocked me Pat this this really all of this in the case was just I call it a collision of logic Adam well in a weird way is Lindsey Clancy trial it's all women who are on trial especially liberal women we all know Massachusetts is a very liberal state we all know that they have very liberal policies but you know right as this as this trial was taking place I don't know if you saw if you guys saw this but a week prior the governor of Massachusetts signed a bill that basically allowed abortion on demand up until yep childbirth up until the day the child was born so my fear is this there's a very slippery slope saying if we can kill a baby right before it's born what about right afterwards born what about one day after it's born how many months how many months how many
months old was eight eight months old the youngest baby was eight months old so how about eight months it was a very slippery slope with this liberal ideology of yeah we can kill the baby right before it's born to right afterwards born so then what I'm wondering for women I love you women out there especially women who are seeing this in a very logical manner the slippery slope says all right let's say she gets off then all right so you you can succumb to your emotions and no matter what you do you could just say yeah it was my hormones it was my emotions so then at what point can we say well how can we trust you how can we trust your gender around children how can we trust you in the workforce how can we trust anything you do at this point because you can just blame your emotions or after pregnancy depression whatever it means and you just kill somebody to get off so to me the precedent that is going to be set here it's already if Lindsey Clancy is set free and basically saying yeah it's okay to murder your three kids and it wasn't just her three kids
it was their three kids because the husband and was the father yeah to Korra Dawson and Cal and these are three people and it's a very slippery slope my last point is this you've talked about the hero making machine here on the show a million different times Lindsey Clancy no matter what you think of she is not a hero the women who are protesting for her who have raised over a million dollars basically claiming that she's their their hero in the in and the system is rigged against her that's a take a long hard look in the mirror and say what are we talking about right here Lindsey Clancy is not a hero Luigi Mangio and he's not a hero Tyler Robinson is not a hero it just seems like the world is going backwards and there's normal people saying not so fast yeah and by the way I want you to see this clip two things you want to go to this one first by the way the juror uh uh you know there's a picture circulating saying that this is the juror who knows if this is true or not we'll get to that here in a minute here's a guy that was about to get married and
two hundred thousand dollar wedding he's spending money on that's a real wedding and watch what he had to say after he asked this fiance future wife with simple question go ahead so I just cancel my wedding I was gonna get married next month I ask my ex what she think about the case of Lindsey she told me that she's innocent because I will never understand what I want to go through and I said what the what about the kids who cares she so you know what two hundred thousand dollars done but I can't believe I was gonna get married to a monster wow done $2 million but guess what doesn't have to worry about going leaving and his kids being murdered if he however many kids he's gonna have with her yeah and you you you saw the clip with Chris right there's a clip with Chris that yeah can you and this is a strange take Chris but you you play this clip go ahead and
and then Vinnie I'm gonna come to you go ahead I'm gonna let all this noise clear the zone on the Lindsey Clancy situation and alone hold out juror who admitted he had reasonable doubts about the prosecution's case but refused to let her go I'm gonna let that noise clear but here's a signal why are so many people who are in favor of punishing Lindsey Clancy also mega supporters when you favor no legal accountability for the president and his administration despite obvious illegality and corruption hypocrisy much oh just when you thought you've seen it all like why maga it's because the majority of maga are Christian conservatives who actually care about protecting children in the womb or out and let's be and I love that you brought it up Adam the Democrat machine the party whatever left this whatever they don't give a damn not only are the party of violence they're happy with killing babies up to freaking birth especially Massachusetts okay it's apt but when a mother who
clearly belongs in prison executed three children and all the facts that I gave you somehow I don't understand how Mac like how do you bring Trump into this I don't understand I you know I and with all due respect I think COVID and the his fifth booster however many boosters Chris has gotten is actually messing up his brain with the sprinkle of TDS like how how many time like what what are you how do you even make that comparison how do you make this political okay because I guarantee mother I guarantee you everybody in his circle including him thinks that she should walk I would bet the form that that's the attitude to have and by the way I know that he's a lawyer but thank God he's not practicing law can you imagine he's your lawyer and he's trying to make an argument in court and he's like you're on a forget the evidence the people who think my client is guilty our mag okay counselor what does that do with the case Trump Trump Mac Trump is Eve like what I don't get it how do you bring Trump into this can somebody explain that to me I'm being no I'm being that's here can you or that they're all Baltimore Orioles fans yeah and by the way they have me it
just it seemed to be a non-sequitur I mean Chris has been on the podcast we all have relationship with Chris but I really thought that this connection was a bit of a you know kind of a reach kind of just read meat for a liberal audience yeah but yeah I'll do my best number one the video that we showed about the guy the cancer was wedding $200,000 in a weird way the Lindsey Clancy case is the updated version of the prenup the prenup is basically saying hey listen if we get married you're not going to steal all my money and you're going to run away with all my stuff the Lindsey Clancy conversation is like hey if we get married and have kids you're not going to kill our kids right let's can we agree to bottom that and then the lady goes well not so sure yeah with counselor wedding regarding whatever quoma was talking about her with with Trump in a weird way this is how I processed this the the the people who are cheering for Lindsey Clancy how do you think they feel about Trump they probably hate Trump so they they will Trump has been accused of rape pedophilia
sexual deviancy never accused of anything Lindsey Clancy there's no this arch would never charge it anything Lindsey Clancy she actually killed her kid admitted it she admitted it there's no question here so the the hypocrisy or the cognitive dissonance that these women are basically saying we hate Trump everything about Trump is bad bad bad but the lady who actually killed her kids she's a hero though guys yep let's have a little sympathy for her to me what do you think about actually Adam dang them all this this is Chris is a left liberal demo whatever you want to say those two bbosin east coast whatever those two other jurors the man they think like how he thinks like of course I guarantee you Chris thinks that she she's innocent guarantee but how do you make the mega I don't even know actually would Trump would uh what is it comparison can you think you would like try to figure out what is it can comparison with the majority of the people that think that she's guilty are mega supporters what the hell does that have to do with mega or politics
seriously she killed the kids what doesn't matter if you're a left or I sometimes Chris has some stuff and I just sit there and I you know you know I watch it I'm like where is he going with this this this right here is a horrible take it's an absolute horrible take of uh what Chris is doing because it's not just mega it's also a lot of men who are Democrats okay so what do you say about that are they mega now do you think most men who are Democrats side with Lindsay let me let me get to straight ask the question no no no but hear me out what I'm asking so now officially most men who are Democrats who hate Trump are now mega you're going to put them in that pool what percentage of liberal women you think support Lindsey Clancy a lot but what do you think the percentage is of liberal percentage what percentage of liberal women support Lindsey Clancy over 80 and think she's getting things she's innocent over 80 percent I don't think it's over 80 percent maybe 10 to 20 I don't think it's 10 to 20 but I think it's less than 50 okay I want to put it's less than
50 no no what I mean is let's say 30 percent yeah but 30 percent is very high millions of women but Adam you forget what what most of these liberal women support but let's say 30 percent yeah okay let's say 30 percent 70 percent of them are now with Lindsey Clancy think she belongs in gel and death penalty okay that's a speculation though of what percentage of Democrat men do you think support Lindsey Clancy saying she's innocent not the fact that what you go through postpartum is not a real thing not that that's not real but the line of you're going through it guess what you know it's okay there she killed the kids not many what percentage you think I agree less than 10 percent of Democratic liberal men Tom you made your eye look you go ahead so I think that we're losing that there's I agree with this to be but stay with me here no no I don't want to go to a different topic I'm asking you the question what percentage of liberal women you think think Lindsey Clancy is innocent I'm going Pam tell you right now I'm going you're 80 where are you at
I'm 30 okay why are you at yeah I'm at 20 okay what percentage of liberal men who have never voted for Trump who hate Trump they think he's disgusting say Lindsey Clancy is innocent liberal who voted for Kamala who voted for Hillary who voted for Biden what percentage of them think Lindsey Clancy's absolute psycho belongs in prison I think men are inherently protective I think only about 20% of them so so you drop it off from 30 to 10 where are you at I'm less I'm less than that 5% 10% where you at no real man is gonna be basically I tell you right now but but a while the wife of a of a liberal who's a hardcore liberal hey women and women rights I'm telling right now that bleeds into the husband I'm pal I'm I'm going up there I'm going 50% maybe 45 okay but this you know but but but here's the thing let's say we're in that range Chris what do you say to those liberals who support Lindsey Clancy getting a death penalty and she's guilty you are they mega all of a sudden make America is that what you put everybody and by the way Chris just so you
know as I'm gonna say you say you're a free agent but let's say you know you're a Democrat because you're not gonna vote for Trump and you vote your brother you wrote him in and all this other stuff you think this position could be a position in 2028 that some candidates will use you think this is gonna be a Pizzicus think about it already how many 80 20 issues you guys are losing in you your party how many transgender 80 20 issue immigration border 80 20 issue Clancy postpartum she's innocent 80 you know you guys are choosing so many of the dumbest 80 20 issues don't you think like a consultant's gonna say guys knock it off already this woman right here Lindsey Clancy yes dealt with postpartum but she is not innocent and so if I'm running for office guess what I'm talking about you want to find that and for me it's very simple run a family vacation run a family vacation and some people gonna have kids there and you have a two-year-old
a four-year-old and a six-year-old that are on your family vacation one of the wives thinks she's innocent and she's not guilty for killing her kids you can spend a week with that person in the house let me ask the question one more time you're on a family vacation you're going summer you know Hamptons you're going to ask them you're going wherever you pick to choose to go to for summer vacation you find out your cousin's wife you find out your best friend's wife Adam you find out your best friend's wife Tom you find out your best friend's wife thinks Lindsey Clancy is innocent and she's not guilty for killing her three kids you got a two-year-old a four-year-old and a six-year-old what are you doing for that vacation there's no chance I'm letting that woman around my kids but what are you doing with that vacation are you a you cancel the vacation are you not going to I'm not going yeah she got five just on drugs I'm not I'm not going to be I'm not going to be over the top and I'm not going to be shrill about it but I'm going to say you know what I think we're just going to do some different things this summer and I'm
going to I'm going to give her grace that I because it's up to her husband to talk to her about this and to worry in their marriage about their unity I'm just going to say guys I I'm just we can't do this and I'm just going to let it so so so now go go even a little bit deeper yeah okay you have you have friends you have relationships you're hanging out hey kids are going to school hey we're going to go to Aunt Mary's house to go play with Little Johnny and you know what that person's position is you letting your kids go to that person's house no no to me yeah to me you can be pro-choice pro-life let's hang out that doesn't bother me even though I'm a man of faith and you know where my position's lie you can be you can be a socialist capitalist my health and guidance teacher till today hates Trump she's a socialist I'm flying her out to Florida for her honeymoon and sending putting in the nicest hotel and spoiling the hell out of her this lady was my health and guidance teacher no problem I can get along with a socialist and have a conversation with you I
can get along with a pro-life pro-choice and have a conversation with you but if either one of those two think this woman is innocent and it wasn't her fault that to me you are like passed a line of logic and common sense there can't be anything we can entertain together nothing everything becomes surface level relish oh how are you yeah I know it's all that's great that's it hey let's go on a vacation together we're busy hey let's go get a good kid let's get let's do what he called a kids playing together would play day play day let's go now no we're busy they're sick they're this we're not playing no games with this year no it's not the safety of my kids exactly I'm saying does she flip out my kids over the kid yeah oh my gosh this is why I said this Lindsey Clancy conversation is the new prenup these are the types of conversations you're gonna have with whoever's around your kid you talked about friends and vacation think about a babysitter what are you gonna ask in that think about camp oh you want to think about schools think about pre-K think about anything that you're gonna let your kids do it's like hey question for you where do
you stand in this Lindsey Clancy thing yeah and all you're doing is weeding out psychopaths it would say and are you on any medication are you willing to prenup I think what you mean to say is hard filter it's hard you're filtering out exactly who you don't own around in your life or in your kids yeah and but by the way men I'm telling you these are the conversations to have with your wife future wife and I think the right thing to do is to cut it off not not cut you know I'm saying cut the relationship off that's Bob it that's it yeah I'm gonna cut the relationship off it's one of the hardest things to do is you got to cut it off wait wait you cannot compromise issues like this you know case study type of conversations what do you think it's a simple question to ask what do you think about her what do you think she's why I think she's kind of going through it no problem you know what awesome I wish you nothing but the best right this is the kind of stuff that there is no compromise and there's only one acceptable answer what she did is disgusting I completely condone that I would never do something they had in my life okay cool we
can move on with our relationship anything other than that well you got to understand what she's coming from we're good here yeah there there is there's no discussion here let me get to the next conversation here look what happens when you got bad policies Nike in Nike is Nike air Jordans you know Jared Lito playing pre-fontaine with those running shoes and Nike turns into a juggernaut air the movie Ben Affleck plays Phil Knight you know the book great book and you mean to tell me Nike all of a sudden is leaving the S&P 100 on September 2nd wait what yes Nike's leaving what the hell did they do to leave well their stock has plummeted in such ways we have not seen many businesses go through Nike will leave the S&P 100 before you as trading open September 21st Dow Jones indicates indices announced September 4th as part of the quarterly rebalance the sportswear company departs alongside Honeywell Aerospace Simon property group and Cole Gate while tell the
Delta technologies Palo Alto Networks Arista Networks and Sandisk Enter the the follow can you pull up Nike stock please just so we can see what happened in Nike stock the last seven years whenever Colin Kaepernick is if you can go do me if ever go max one was Colin Kaepernick about 10 years ago what year was Colin Kaepernick to be exact what was it 16 was it thinks I think it was about what year was Colin Kaepernick I want to know what year was the Kaepernick I want to say there's a 10 year anniversary when did Colin Kaepernick's incidents happen do we know what year did Colin Kaepernick's kneeling start okay 20 10 years ago can you go to 2016 stock go to 2016 stock where it's at so goes up where does it peak go all the way up to where it peak peak that's not peak peak yeah right there so if you go to that that's what 2021 COVID it's peaking and now the stock is below while Colin Kaepernick's kneeling happened so you're talking about it's
worse than where it was 10 years ago and a market cap where's the market cap right now market cap is 60 billion dollars today where was the market cap at the peak go all the way to the top of the peak 175 so if we say 174 the stock today's 3840 so 3840 174 is 5x the market cap was roughly 250 billion dollars it's dropped over 80% Nike has Tom why is this happening so here's what happens to the S&P indexes you know you can fumble your way out of the index what do they do they're constantly rebalancing and they're even said that Colgate palm olive is how also dropping out and so what happens is the indexes is a collection that they try to balance by industry of investible assets what they're saying is that they have low confidence in Nike as an investible asset and they're moving it and what they've done is is is actually unconscionable Nike is dealt with the backlash of
go you know go woke go broke here you go you know I'll tell you you know go woke go broke and Nike just didn't pay attention to the customer you haven't seen things that are rolling the 2021 peak was a little bit inflated as people react a little bit and you know also there's some issues with with China and tariffs and mismanaging their supply chain and so there's a lot of people that don't like that there was an NBA player that called them out what was the name the NBA player that called out Nike for the sweatshops in China and he wore a different name on his back and and everybody gave him crap for it and he's like I'm sorry I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do this but there was a you know and that's cancer yeah Nike there it is public it called that Nike October 21 for hypocrisy and tied the forced labor and human rights in China at the peak and so all of these things happened to Nike after that and now it's really funny as I read an article this morning preparing for the podcast do you
know what ike is listed as now says an interesting fashion sector turnaround story that is how let's be described by a good analyst a very good analyst an interesting fashion sector turnaround story which was once the leader the trailblazer the one that took a shot with michael jordan and did those things is relegated to that description pat yeah it's pretty well that it's almost like Nike forgot one of the most famous lines it ever established by its most famous brand ambassador which is michael jordan who said famously republicans buy sneakers too and it's almost like Nike totally forgot how this all thing works because if you like sports if you're a someone that that represents the Nike brand Nike used to be cool and then over the last five years they become completely out of out of the cool section and they forgot where they came from I remember the argument that I made with brine cannon that jelly roll is the bud light of musicians at this
well Nike is the bud light of jelly roll at this point where you've completely abandoned your customer you forgot who you are and if you like tom said go go broke and then here's what I want to understand I knew about the s and p 500 I didn't know there was an s and p 100 yeah I mean I invest in the s and p 100 it's just a hundred that's just a top 100 company exactly what that means but I but yeah here's a company well Disney I've talked about Disney that I of my grandma bought me Disney stock and how Disney basically went went broke how much Disney went down what 20 30 40 percent at the most Nike's down oh no no no no how much did they go no no no what do you talk about Disney was a 400 billion auto company it went down to 200 billion dollars then this is 150 percent oh yeah go to five years go go to go to max go to max go to the peak the peak isn't right during cold right there it went to 185 to all the way down to yeah this need drop market cap go on no that's not that the low lowest go back a little no right there no no
right to go a little bit right right right right go right that right right right right right right right right there 92 yeah drop more than 50 percent okay but Nike dropped 80 percent Nike dropped 78 percent so here's what type of mismanagement so here's what you got to know go a little bit deeper into that because here's here's I want to isolate it so anytime the insurance company like our company would have a drop that season I will look to see what my best guys were doing to see if the best guys also drop meaning is this in a cross the board market think or is this the you know company you know somebody a sector market screwing it up so what is the biggest the category of George when you think about Nike you think about Jordans right okay so if Nike dropped 78 percent what do you think Jordan's dropped you would you would you would suspect that if there's a correlation so what do you think it is but I don't even think it's not dropped it has dropped if Nike dropped 78 percent how much have Jordan shoes with Nike dropped how much what do you think percentage wise what do you think you dropped I mean it's 70 people people love the Jordan brand
or see that going down that 19 percent decline okay it went from 8.2 billion to 7 billion in 2026 on 2023 that 8.2 billion then 8.7 billion in 2024 went up then it dropped from 8.7 billion to 7.27 billion and this year it's estimated to be at 7.03 billion so Michael is sitting there saying guys what are we doing you're impacting my income by 19 percent so they're feeling that now a few other things aside from the woke part you got also know that what what Nike did in insurance there's two ways to sell insurance this has to do a lot with what Nike did as well there's FMOs IMOs and there's career side meaning I'm AIG career side is I have 2000 employees that work for AIG that only sell AIG insurance FMO and IMOs are independent contractors I can sell nationwide AIG prudential mutual of Omaha you know for us or whoever they want to sell you can't control what they sell what AIG this what Nike did is Nike started saying screw these guys let's just sell it
directly ourselves they screwed over the retailers meaning people that are buying Nike products and they're selling it they tighten the margins are like oh we're so big we don't even need you we're just gonna go get everybody to go to the Nike store I don't know if you're tracking what I'm saying for you right now so they said screw the FMO IMO side let's go only career side we're so big we don't need you guys the secondary market though whatever you call the dicks the dicks the that the margins are going to get smaller okay then other competitors read the book blue ocean strategy and said I'm gonna come and take markets away from you hoca Nike didn't adjust quickly with the on-cloud technology and the hoca technology so the super from technology when you think about super from who do you think about you think about on cloud you think about hoca major sector under armor got more competitive so it's by sector they got destroyed it's not like you know you have tennis shoes you have running shoes you have basketball shoes you have this shoes you have that shoes companies came in and they said we're just going after one market you're trying to get everything we're gonna take a little bit of this we're gonna take a little bit of that we're
gonna take a little bit of this and of course the woke stuff doesn't help them but you know this is a writer cross the board issue that they have you saw Disney just dropped Bob Ike and I have a new seal that's coming in Tim Cook is a different story because Tim Cook never got involved in the woke stuff even though he's the first openly gay CEO of a fortune 500 company when they forced him to give the information on the iPhone and San Bernard you know you know Tim Cook said I'm not giving nothing to you he never got into the full woke brand thing which good for him you know for not doing that so I what the Nike is gonna recover or not from this who knows the market is very very competitive you saw a little bit with Lulu Lemon as well Tom where Lulu Lemon took a hit I mean it's two stories with Lulu Lemon but one of the stories with Lulu Lemon is I don't know what page the Lulu Lemon story is it is it is also page 13 yes it's made a Lulu lemon stock plunge 20% on disappointing earnings and outlook so I don't want to stay too long on this story but they're also going through it with Lulu Lemon the stock dropped 20% shares dropped 20% pre-market
after trading on Friday after another disappointing quarter and slash outlook revenue fall 4% comparable with sales sank 9% second fiscal quarter the interim CEO blamed negative commentary on social media and a greater than expected slowdown in court categories like leggings the overall response to our product launches remain inconsistent she told third quarter guidance calls for revenue for 2.2 billion to 2.32 billion down roughly 10 to 11% so there's some stuff that's going on there and then there's a story of Lulu Lemon's founder Chip Wilson 71 years old going through divorce after 20 years of marriage bloombug reported a family legal proceedings was filed in April so they're kind of going through their own thing as well he's worth 6.1 billion apparently he had no pre-nup in place so they're wondering what's going to happen there so this is the nasty part about running a business and having a public life you're going to be hit hard and you have to know what happens when you're public when you're wealthy when you're successful when you're winning
the market's going to be telling your story to the world and it's not an easy place to be but this is why I pay so well because most people don't want to do it and most people cannot do it they cannot handle the public pressure that comes with let me get to the next one here with the public pressure so 2028 everybody's wondering who's going to be running for president so a lot of conversations of who's going to be running for president on the left you see aoc newsome pritzker you know offsoft Tom's favorite and some some of these names Shapiro Josh Shapiro some of these names out there on Kamala still has her and Kamala as well yes and possibly Hunter Brighton and Donald lemon now saying he's thinking about it on the right you hear stories about you know J.D. Vance maybe Rubio and a few other names and J.D. Vance recently was asked about Tucker because Tucker made comments about El Sayed and El Sayed is the guy in Michigan Tucker said I would never vote for the opposing guy Mike Rogers I think that his gun on my hand I would yeah if you put a gun to my head I don't know if we have that clip in a back if we have it for us to show it if you put a gun to my head I wouldn't vote for him right and is this it is this a clip go
for let's hear this out go for it micro outures is really I would I wouldn't vote for micro outures at gunpoint right and so that's the candidate the guy a literal loser who lost when Donald Trump won the state just to show you how much of a headwind he had at his back is basically a tool of Israel in the intelligence right how would you run someone like that I don't even it doesn't even make sense so that makes no sense well El Sayed who look El Sayed is a full blown ds I mean he doesn't call himself dsa he's a full blown leftist I've known him for quite a long I watch his campaign now America first the amount of times he says he doesn't even when he talks about Israel he says Israel is committing a genocide but ultimately I want to make sure that you don't pay more for health care I don't want your tax dollars going abroad positive right there so now that's El Sayed so as evil as mic Rogers is he's not as evil as El Sayed and what he believes in no so let's let's continue to allow more of them to have more power the dsa the socialist is limits and so jade events was asked about this his relationship with Tucker and here's what he had to say go
for it and claim that you're avoiding addressing a lot of these issues which maybe cause him to be in the jail case well look I'm not avoiding addressing anything everybody knows that Tucker Carlson and I are friends and I think it's very obvious that Tucker has said some things that I disagree with he said some things about the president of the United States that I think are just wrong I think yesterday somebody sent me a clip that said that he would support El Sayed over Rogers I think El Sayed is a crazy person and I think whatever your views on mic Rogers specific policy prescriptions I'd like to have a non-crazy person like mic Rogers representing Michigan United States Senate rather than a crazy person like El Sayed that said what my attitude towards this and I try to I try to practice what I preach and I remember when I became the vice presidential nominee one of the hardest things for me personally is not when
people attacked me but when people attacked my wife including friends of hers who knew her heart who knew what a good person she was and I remember thinking to myself what a travesty it is that in the United States of America we let political disagreements define who our friends are going to be and not going to be so yeah Tucker is a friend of mine Tucker is a friend despite the fact that we disagree on a number of things and I'm not going to play the game where I throw friends under the bus because I have how do you feel about that I mean I'm curious of what what the president he because you know Trump hears this how does he think about this and mind you JD Vance himself used to call Trump all types of names I don't know if he called him Hitler literally Hitler or something like that though but there's no way that he could not the president doesn't hear this and he is livid but again this is JD Vance who I mean you called it out a while ago Pat I think you know his his intentions and what he's going through I think at some point especially remember what especially with Iran when he was in there and the he made it almost like a a fact to let
everybody know that he was less enthusiastic about the war and Iran he's just putting these little things so that when he does run he can be like hey guys I wasn't with Trump this whole time I told you guys I was friends with Tucker I'm not about this war and let's just you know vote for me because I'm he's going to distance himself from Trump for Trump trust him I don't think so at all I don't I don't think so especially when the last time when he said hey is JD Vance going to take you thing he's like nope tourally he cut them off very very quick it wasn't like yeah I know he's been going around the panel in the other way in people saying I think JD's the guy I think JD's the guy he's been lobbying for him so I don't know I don't know time where you at with this so everybody's running for office that's right I'm and when they're Tucker's running for office I think Tucker's thinking about it and I think everybody is talking like they're running for office and JD Vance is here talking very carefully to keep the Tucker camp close that's clear I think it's very clear otherwise you're going to come out and you're going to support it and by the
way you have to remember that you know think about political capital Vinnie and who's who's angry and who's not does it matter if Trump's frustrated with you or pissed off about a comment no does it matter if Trump's support goes away yes so I think JD Vance is trying to stay in that lane a little bit hey everybody knows Tucker's my friend I have a friendship there but there's some things he's said about the president I think you're just wrong okay but I I think this is all running language everybody's trying to keep camps close Pat I read it Adam I have no clue what this dude is doing let me give you an analogy okay you're my boss you're my mentor you're my friend if someone that I'm very good friends with is publicly talking trash about you and I'm your co-host I'm your vice president at one point I'm gonna say hey listen buddy I'm with team Pat that's my boss you're really making things look very weird for me right now please stop at that point that
guy can continue to do what he's doing or actually stop what's happening is Tucker is basically heard that hey you're really making life worth Tucker goes yeah F you and your boss at some point you say no no no Tucker was my friend he is no longer my friend I don't understand how this relationship is sustainable if my good friend who I am still calling a good friend is publicly talking trash not only about my president about my administration and literally single handedly ruining my chances of becoming president you would have to do more than slap me in the face to get me to wake up I have no clue what he's doing and if JD Vance thinks he's just gonna basically inherit the uh maga coalition as if as if everything's cool no issues JD you got another thing comment brother I don't get it I don't understand the move and for all the people that are basically still romanticizing Tucker like well he was so great on Fox things have clearly changed at some point you have to acknowledge he
may have been your friend but he is no longer your friend yeah you know the other day I was watching the debate between the president and Jeb Bush and because I was preparing for the Ted Cruz interview so I was kind of watching some of this old debate stuff and it was one of the ones where he got up and he said hey you see all the people that are clapping these are all the people that support the Jeb Bush you know why because they told us pre-debate the only people that are gonna be able to get tickets for ceases I was trying to get seats for my family and friends I couldn't get any of them because it was all the big donors that gave money here right it's just it's true and then they started booing it's true listen this is all but they're doing they can do this all they want and then one of the exchange so think about who Trump targeted on the Republican side not not the democratic side in the primary Trump went out and all the guys that were there the Carson's the Huckabee the other guys that were there the Ted Cruz there was even a guy named Scott Walker I was governor who was the guy little Marco Marco Rubio Rand Paul it was it was quite a few then what was a lady that the CEO of us
the early Philorino yeah okay yeah so but what did Trump do he attacked and he went after a lot of these guys Chris Christie and you got to think about how different is the 2027 2028 primary going to be is it going to be one of those things Tom were do you remember the democratic debate what it was like that they wouldn't fight I don't know if you remember oh yeah and right and there was no way to do shadow you could come on Harris I one time it's like you know Joe I don't appreciate what you did with the buses and you know whatever it was I don't know if you remember that thing it really made me feel so she went on on him right she didn't and then yeah I'm right here I'm right here Joe there's no women there are leaders I'm right here I don't know if it's 2020 I think that's 2016 yeah was it 20 no no because no you're right I didn't run into it yeah yeah I don't know if it's it could have been anyways yeah yeah it was 20 so when you think about that how was this one going to be and and which ones are going to hurt people because I think the way JD is doing it and and and remember guys like the way in sports sometimes you wouldn't would accord it back
sometimes Baltimore Ravens one would out of court defense and they won with a defense sometimes you win with a center and the NBA nowadays wins without center sometimes you win with a you know what do you call it the three big three big three yeah sometimes you win with a big one and just a cycle killer comes in and crushes everybody right so I think I think the 2028 campaigns going to be very different because the guy you're going up against is not Trump but at the same time the part that you have to be very very careful with I have guys that that try to be way too diplomatic you know what ends up happening to them they get crushed you really do people need to know your position where you are because if you don't know the position I walk into room and I'm like I don't really know where that guy stands so if I don't know where you stand I don't know where to go with you and and there is an element of power there for that individual but not the power to win at the highest level you can't Trump made it clear I'm not this this rhinos this bullshit this this this this this this this this this and then you went up there you know some
people call us and say hey Pat you know gotta be careful man you're in Florida you don't want to call anybody out on Florida that could end up being your governor I'm going based on my values I don't need any of these guys I'm not I'm not trying to do what I'm doing because so and to me that vibe I got was Trump Trump was like no here's what I stand for I don't need you I don't need to be scared of walking on eggshells for you who are you he kind of went up so I don't I don't know this idea of you know the relationships and how this gonna pan out are you thinking like you're gonna be on stage and you're there and Tucker's campus there and they support you as well as conservatives who don't like what he stands for you think that percentage outweighs the other one I don't know yeah I watch the Stephen Miller's wife who runs his podcast she does pretty good job by the way she asked Marco Rubio and his wife I whether it was this interview or another one it was one of the ones where Marco Rubio was asked about Trump and then he says look politics is nasty and you compete
and you say certain things but let me tell you what happened with me the moment I started working with Trump I just realized how great of a man he was and how he kept this word and how he was good to all of us and how he was this and how he was that and you know you kind of sit there you're like well is that what JD strategy is I don't know I don't know and some what's gonna be happening here I just wonder if in his mind he's trying to keep everybody happy to run and unfortunately if there is no other contender that strategy could work for him because he may be thinking to himself you know what's the biggest gift JD needs what do you think JD's biggest gift he wants Marco Rubio doesn't run Marco Rubio doesn't run Trump's indoors I mean but no no no no no no no this is it I think it's look what the Santa's just the the Santa's just endorsed Byron Donald's even though the Santa said Byron Donald should debate the lieutenant governor everybody else he just endorsed and why because he asked what's what choice do you have yeah yeah yeah who choice do you have you have to endorse the guy right so it's come so Byron Donald's kind of got away without having to do the
debates and getting all the heat he avoid but he's he's a debate doger you can you can't say you can dispute that he's a debate doger right you know and so is this is this is this gonna be Rubio's JD's strategy is gonna be oh dude I'm gonna only do two primary debates and if that because I'm gonna have such a massive lead where JD's biggest goal between now and primary is what one goal anything and everything for one man not to run and for that one man not to run as who is Marco if Marco doesn't run JD Vance equals Byron Donald's I don't need to debate I don't need to debate so watch if he even makes the case to say he's only gonna debate once which by the way JD doesn't have to worry about debating he's a fricking phenomenal debater I don't think it's like he has to worry about the debates and to call out and it's not like he has a lot of crazy shit that people can call him out on you know what are they gonna say he's got a good life good wife family values what are you gonna say to JD it's not like he has a rap sheet he doesn't have
right so to me I think I think JD's biggest strategy is if I go up against anyone on the left I can handle aOC I can handle this I can handle that he's just got a commons reput he's got a commons one republican out to run and that's Marco Rubio yeah that's his number one strategy above it all he will never say this because their friends he'll never say this but his number one goal is to make because the only person formidable enough to beat him is Marco Rubio what what are the odds you think that Marco Marco does run in 2028 you're right this is the strategy they all use this is what Hillary remember she was trying to do what they call clear the decks to make sure that nobody thought they were gonna pop their head up and run that's you guys lose audio or no no okay can you guys hear me yeah as long as you can him Jake I just lost audio but if you guys can hear me I'm good keep going time no I was and I'll let Vinny go but my point was very simply Hillary tried to clear the decks and one guy on free college and a few things got a little momentum and
they had to assassinate him in South Carolina and that was Bernie Sanders yeah so the the plan is always to clear the decks so what do you so what do you think what do you think here well I agree with you I get that Jake I'm good I'm good I just my elbow rubbed it and it lowered the odd I'm good the biggest the biggest deck clearing mode would be Rubio grows to go out and then they whispered everybody else okay nobody popped your head up and because I think JD has one mission yep anything and everything in his power for Marco Rubio not to run because Marco is really that formidable and by the way to the Republicans out there your goal should be everything and anything for Marco Rubio to run why because we need the debate we need the better talent and it could be JD still winning it could be Rubio still winning but you need that competition we can't have this model up oh Byron doesn't need to debate I hate that yeah I wish you knew how much I hate that
okay I hate that he doesn't need to debate he's already got everybody beat they don't need to show up is that really the brand of the Republican Party that we even dodge each other maybe Lieutenant governor Collins had a good argument maybe render I think Paul render needed eyeballs because I think he's actually talent fishbacks got a younger audience you're gonna say no you don't think you fired them up even more so I I hope if Republicans are out there that you really wanted I hope you want that debate I hope you want Rubio and Vance on stage I just don't know how they're gonna handle it it's only because I don't know either one of them are gonna be hardcore tack mode you know a secretary state I think Rubio is the greatest secretary state of all time I've said this on record many times it was so easy to work with them you know and that I that I that I what all right yeah so then what I and that's why I think I I personally I don't know I don't think what are the odds that you think that Marco runs in 2000 I'm not saying that we hope I don't know man I think there's a lot of talks that he's not planning on I that's what that's not and you know why I think they're gonna put all their all they're gonna put all their force behind JD Vance and I'm telling you right now Marco
by the because how many times does Marco run for president this will be his out once in 20 so this will be his second time yeah I don't think if there's a if he doesn't think he's gonna win what he's gonna run again this one with JD being the lead and then lose again and then what in four years he's gonna run again look I think we're all bringing up Marco Rubio because we know what a former will candidate he is I think that time will come when he has to make a decision I want to bring this back to JD Vance what percentage do you think you want to give JD credit for Trump getting elected in 2024 what percentage do you give JD credit zero I agree with you meaning Trump yeah he was no meaning Trump could have any candidate or I think Pence helped Trump more than Vance by the way I like Vance more as a VP but I think Pence helped Trump yeah more become a president and Vance helped he needed that evangelical help I agree yeah yeah for sure you say zero maybe it's maybe it's one percent I think it's meaning Trump would have got reelected yeah with the without JD yes so meaning JD Vance you didn't bring anything to the table just don't ruin it when you have
someone like Tucker calling Trump the anti-Christ and I'm not even going to go in on Tucker I get that because that's personal to you but no zero percent personal to me but to me it's personal what's personal to me is loyalty Trump brought you here and you're not loyal to Trump that's not how I'm not that's not how they look at loyal to it's not how they look at Tucker as your first that's not how they look at what tell me how how how else you would look at it that's that's that world is so confusing 99.9% of the world wouldn't understand that world that that world is a very the have you watched Brinco war okay go watch it with Jeff Daniels just came out now it's on Apple you should go watch it Reagan thing yes a Reagan thing go about I think it is so nasty I think it's so nasty so dirty that everybody's like I'll apologize afterwards I think that's the world they're in I don't think you think it's how it is now keep in mind a principal driven guy like me I'm not one of these guys
I'm not to to me politically that's why you know I'm here but when you get on the inside you know it's a very very different world it's a very different world I don't think it's as black and white as you think it is now for the voter for the voter for the voter um you know there's a Wall Street Journal story that came out that said Trump is more worried about his legacy and Republicans are worried about midterms Trump doesn't care about the midterms that's a story that just came out Wall Street Journal yeah yeah story came out so meaning like look I'm doing my legacy you guys figure out midterms not my promise you a problem he's at that point and I think that's by the way there's also a there's also a percentage of Trump that you know there's also percentage of there's a there's a part of Trump that what percentage of Trump do you think he wants a Democrat to win 2028 0% what percentage of Trump do you think he wants JD to win versus Marco Rubio I my assumption he's more of a Rubio guy than a JD Vance guy that's my
assumption we're gonna find that out we're gonna find that out here soon can I actually really do ever can carry on his legacy better how much and keep that coalition alive is I think how much of because I haven't been hearing any all you all I've been hearing is about JD and nothing really about Marco how much do you think that the Iran war and how it's not going to stop anytime soon is one of the deciding factors of Marco not running because that's going to be a hardcore debate point pat for the left but left is going to say hey no wars we're in another forever war like how much of a decision you think this is this is not this is not Republicans against Democrats this is not Republicans to me to me it's the primary to me it's the primary because the primary dictates who wins the general this is a primary conversation you need Rubio in there for the primary conversation you do I'm worried that what happened to Florida is going to happen to the primary that's what I'm worried about I'm gonna just say go I I really really I'm concerned about them
trying to do to Rubio to JD what happened with Byron Donald I understand your concerns yeah I just don't see that happening I think you have a dissent to out there I think whether Rubio runs or not and I really want to I want him to that guy has my unconditional support I think the Santhus I think I think that's the chance against JD I think an outside this will be JD's VP yeah but we what we learned from Kamala is that we don't want people anointed we want you going through a tough time that's that's and by the way I hope they the Santhus run I hope Cruz runs I hope all these guys run what I'm trying to say is the opposite of what you're saying I want everybody I think they will I don't think I think the one that has to run but if Jay okay go for it I'll do the polls so JD runs Ted Cruz runs the Santhus runs Rubio doesn't run six months into it what's the numbers look like JD's yeah JD's is what's what's JD's number go ahead JD's would be very high what do you think JD's number get all the pens if Trump says I'm gonna ask him to get the name Rubio doesn't run so JD everybody else runs that we want what's JD's number six months into the primary
high give me the number meaning like 60 is he in the 20s 30s 40s 50s 60s where he has six months of 40s or 50s he doesn't need to debate more than one why would he yeah he doesn't need that's a problem on delegates on that's a problem six months done deal that's right six months in on now it could be 85% on delegates over I see what you said no this is this is a really I hope more Republicans are talking about this this is a real concern watch what happened to Florida this is how many debates by Randall's and Florida did against other Republicans why why because what because he's that capable no go get dirty playoffs has rounds round one round two round three then go win the championship and he will win it you do you not want to eliminate NBA playoffs and just go to your championship now now that's not how any sport works and neither does a political party the Republicans better be careful you better be careful like trying to soften up your candidates
that's the chosen one you don't know if they're the chosen ones what if they choke then what Florida flips oh well it's because of the Democrats spend more money bullshit bullshit now play ball get into arena fight do to fight how do I know I I hope the right people saw this last segment and and the right people are anyways I hope the right people saw this I'm with you 100% and you know what I also want I want them to think that these ideas are better than these ideas let's move on let's move on to the next story let's move on to the next story the next one I want to get into is LA Clippers let me tell you why this story I kind of like and I got four other stories to get into but I definitely want to get into this LA Clippers story so let me get the straight the Clippers lose five first round draft picks okay time I'm only going to this one because only the two of us know about the NBA the Clippers lose five first round draft picks they get fined 30 million dollars and they win zero championships and Charles Barkley stays right because Charles
Barkley has the best quote about the Clippers he says I've been rich I've been poor I've been fat I've been skinny the Clippers have sucked all along okay the Clippers have sucked all along so here's the story about the Clippers that people quietly it's just kind of almost died off a little bit I think we need to revive this Clippers scandal a little bit of what happened the NBA landmark ruling against the Clippers is now a PR headache for ESPN on August 17 ESPN cited unnamed sources saying the leak had no evidence to ballmer fundal money for to co-I Leonard framing that set up in ESPN versus Pablo narrative against Pablo Torre whose pilots are winning reporting on Leonard sponsored ties the NBA findings just validated the NBA find the team Clippers 30 million dollars find Leonard 700 thousand dollars suspended ballmer for a year while it might be accurate and awarding the substance of the story was very misleading says PR executive Brian McWilliams NBA spokesperson Mike Bass said the story contains numerous and significant inaccuracies
Torre said ESPN never ran statements standing by is reporting ESPN's shams Corania was then criticized for saying on TV that Leonard did not have any knowledge while noting the pocket that he pocketed tens of millions of dollars fancy the outcome which is starkly in contrast and ESPN reporting McWilliams said the audience just needs an explanation added consultant Sam gosh here Tom thoughts on the story so I'll tell you what I think about this story I think there's a couple things going on here and they all stink number one the NBA incredibly created an even bigger distraction to move eyes away from the WMBA and distraction in the summer of embarrassment and incompetence uh number one I think but number two I think they need to be careful about this are they sure that everybody else is clean pat are you sure because that was the argument by some of the uh players that um admitted in baseball what was going on with steroids remember that there were some players that admitted it and said dude you have no idea how widespread this was
and the even these players that revolve were saying I think the league liked it because it was high scoring and it was excitement and it was home runs and we had come back from the strike right now what I think you know people at the pay attention you people Tom like people got the good I mean the audience yes the audience needs to understand what do you mean you people go ahead continue there's it um I'm with you just if you mean you take me to Bernie and no no no I'm just telling you it's up to under arrest a phone is it moving but 12 years ago members Steve Bommer got the NBA out of it Donald Sterling and Sterling had the lawyers and the ability to get that thing clogged in court so that they couldn't force him to sell and they were like crap what do we do Bommer put two billion dollars in cash down he also then remember what else he did he built a two billion dollar uh uh stadium without a penny of public money he supported getting uh NBA back into Seattle he thinks the team should be there back as soon as possible he also supported the
Sacramento Kings with what they were doing going through things so is he guilty or innocent as what they're charging I don't know I'll leave that to the allegations of the NBA and to their their own you know court as they have it but there were 29 other owners Pat that benefited from what Bommer did and have seen their franchises go up by billions and billions of dollars and I think the timing of this and the public nature of this stinks that's what I think I want to know I mean the NBA knows how to do secret suspensions don't they let's not go there but they certainly know how to do that but this whole thing to me really stinks there have been when you do enforcement you're trying to do things in sauerichap the creativity of owners will run faster than enforcement that's create that's how entrepreneurship works it'll work faster than you can put guard rails and what this also says is all argue the other way that the reason that they paid some of the money is because some of these players were worth it and under the current split and collective bargaining
they couldn't get the dollars they were worth and it only takes one owner to say you know what I want to get you I'm going to break this but this is the way you're going to do it but I think the whole thing stinks okay by the way so so the the position the Clippers came out their general counsel wrote out a whole thing saying this is completely unfair because bomber alone you know how much legal fees bomber spent on this 50 million dollars of just legal fees on this okay on top of that if you remember there was a company that was an LA company that the Clippers came allegedly and said hey you give so they did a sponsorship deal with a quiet Leonard I don't know what the company's name was inspiration aspiration something like that aspiration and they gave a 28 million dollar endorsement deal to co-ion Leonard but guess what happened to this aspiration company they went bankrupt wait a minute what are you talking about so they lose this five years of first round draft pick if the Clippers flip and say oh really you're going to do this to us no problem the Clippers now go higher investigators you don't think they've already done that they're going to go
in indirectly drop stories on three five ten other organizations that I've done this with different players and so if this goes through and this is public humiliation like this to the Clippers I think what Thomas saying is correct you could have a few other teams in a next six 12 24 months that may be dealing with a similar story like this if not all you think that could be how about all the state warrior player really oh wait you mean to tell me other people haven't creatively found the way to funnel money to players really you don't remember how magic Johnson got 5% equity in the Lakers 40 years ago I don't know what the number was but he got equity in the Lakers yeah this is pre like you couldn't do it anymore but I think magic got a ton of equity in the Lakers because everybody wanted magic Johnson and Jerry Bus helped them what was the yeah magic Johnson sold his 4.5% stake in the Lakers October 2020 for roughly 27 to 30 million dollars by the way you know what that 4.5% would have been worth today 500 million dollars actually no 600 million dollars because it's 4.5% on 12 billion dollars so why do you sell it why do you sell because he probably
at the time it was a lot of money when he sold it he didn't know if it was going to get this high Adam thoughts on the story yeah I mean look look there's what then I'll go ahead keep going and look I think I feel like teams always come up with creative ways to basically for compensation did I miss something you go go ahead with your amateur listen you know you didn't even catch it it just went oh my god look you remember when the Mets they signed I think Bobby Bonilla to like a 20 year contract and like they paid him like a million dollars a year there's still paying him there's still paying him there's creative ways to have deferred compensation or workarounds or circumvent the situation but you know the bottom line is you want to have an ROI on your investment right so if you're going to do these things these shady things these questionable things these potentially illegal things you're actually going to want to have some sort of return on your investment that actually shows wow we want a championship wow we really did well the clipper sells to perennial losers that the clippers are the antithetical Achilles heel
of the Lakers and I'm using Achilles heel as a reason channel to go be right there the clippers have done all this to just become bigger losers that's a big a problem I have now we're going to find out exactly what happens here I think still ballmer is I think banned for a year it's to pay 30 million dollars but the challenge that I have is are you telling me co-ye is basically getting off scot for a year he's paying how much seven hundred thousand dollars Stephen A Smith shout out to him and came to the vault with his team he basically said this is ridiculous to co-ye Leonard should either be suspended for the year without pay because I think he's making about 40 50 million dollars a year or he can pay can play and actually make no money this year but to to play an entire year and basically have only get to lose seven hundred thousand dollars to me is absurd yeah because are you telling me the co-ye Leonard no clue was going no no no no that he's in his team to me that's BS and then on top of that the load manager talking about ROI
they got to be in play yeah and and so that by the way this is a diameter takes this is happen that was this this so this is happened in the past before and it happened with if you remember with Joe Smith Minnesota with Kevin Michele they had the power of five and three three and a half million dollars because they said we're going to give you 86 million dollars hush hush take the smaller contract kind of like what Otani they deal with the Dodgers but Dodgers did it in the open they cheated in the open which is respectful they say it's probably yeah they say it openly the way they decide they did the contract to win the back to back and we'll see what happened this year by the way both judge and Otani are injured right now so judges been hurt since May 31st it's just rewrices done a good job she'll shout out to him but here's what I'll say the the the Minnesota timber wolves when they went through this they lost draft picks then they lowered it so they were supposed to lose five they ended up only losing two so I do think as they their lawyers comes back to the NBA they're because you know what five first round draft picks means you don't even have anything to trade for I mean you're your crush you're on what you can do
basement crush on what you could do but we'll see because your team isn't good and you don't have first round draft and Balmer was the kind of an owner that actually goes to the games like Cuban that's right he sits on the side so now you're suspended for one you can't even go to the games I don't know I don't know what happens so who do you put this on Steve Balmer no no no because I think Lawrence Frank is there a president basketball operations I think he's also suspended for everything rises and falls on the owner I mean what else do you want to say the buck stop there but let me point one thing out the NBA is kicking a guy is they just kicked Steve Balmer in the groin and he's a guy with steel balls who went up against the freaking United States of America versus Microsoft and let the US government kick him in the balls and he wasn't wearing a cup and he got through all of it so this guy that's great and by the way and by the way I'll say something else who's the wealthiest owner in the NBA Balmer by what factor who's number two 10 x 5 x he's worth almost 100 billion 150 billion Dan Gilbert of the Cleveland Cavaliers 32 yeah he's a hundred
billion dollars he's the not only you see the alpha the other owners should be getting behind this guy yeah can I make one just very very because you know me I'm more of you know soccer baseball football I just because you you just pointed something out I have to do this like I just want to point out how superior that NBA analysis is over yours at night and like it's shocking no matter how I'm like and I love you to death it's like night and day let me tell you something there's things that hurt me I'm sorry I try not to read the comments sorry this pierce my heart sorry let's go pierce my heart let's go to the next one all right let's go to the next one this next one is Venezuela okay at first when we all woke up and you saw Maduro was taken and he's in DC with the pictures and everything you're like wait that quickly they took over Maduro they did then you hear this deal and you sit there and say well this is pretty ridiculous deal Trump hails biggest oil deal in world history with Venezuela look you got to give the man credit on this one
and what he just did and and I'll tell you why this is so important here in a minute but let me read it to President Trump said Friday that the US struck a deal with Venezuela to take control of oil fields holding 65 billion barrels of reserve writing the United States of America has just entered into an agreement with the country of Venezuela on the biggest oil deal in world history not US history world history a source described the arrangement as a public private partnership among the US private companies and Venezuela it's not a purchase they're giving a equity a US government source said adding the US would take would get off take oil guarantee crude exchange at cost the Pentagon Office of Strategic Capital would oversee its Secretary of State Marco Rubio negotiated the interim president delsea Rodriguez called it a huge one promising nearly 100 billion dollars in private investments for Venezuela Rodriguez said the deal means 209 billion in additional tax revenue for her country administration officials initially disagreed on whether it
was finalized but after Rodriguez a statement once said it's going to happen it's just a question of when and this let Chevron to invest seven billion to double its Venezuela on output and at first if you remember the Chevron CEO was a little bit skeptical he said no we're going to invest seven billion dollars over five years to more than double its Venezuelan crude output the largest commitment yet by US let revival of the country's oil industry it one rights to develop the carrabobo one and carboa two South a fields in the orinoco belt besides the joint venture so this this is we're building very formidable position in what we consider to be some of the best geology in the country see oh Mike word said this is multiple billions of barrels of resource in place Chevron expected about six hundred billion barrels a day by 2031 at costs under twenty dollars a barrel versus roughly ninety one Brent top why is this such a big deal this is such a big deal because you know what trump just did trump just pulled a china on the rest of the world everybody talks about
china and says hey they don't think short term they think long term we've talked about this path right yep they think long term trump is thought long term this is going to have an effect but it's not going to have an effect on Tuesday what does she'll Biden do he rapes the strategic petroleum reserve throwing oil out on the market to get the pricey gas down running in the 2024 election and it didn't work that is a short term move that that hurts we still haven't real fit we still haven't filled up the sp r refilled it yet well guess what this is a long term play it's going to take as it says Chevron is putting the money in but it's going to take one or two years to start getting more of it out but that what was hidden in here is there expecting six hundred thousand barrels a day by twenty thirty one which is not that long coming at twenty dollar a barrel extraction cost pat twenty bucks a barrel why because they're going to build new mining and versus ninety three Brent Tom let me ask you question how much of this has to do with you know Iran let me explain
what I mean by this you put these heavy sanctions on Iran Iran's economy is getting hurt tremendously behind closed doors they hit a couple of our ships right over the weekend I think in the last few days and what did trump did you see what trump posted yesterday which video did you see the video trump posted yesterday what would happen to car gaiolin if we bond car gaiolin what was it yesterday have you guys seen this video or no can you post it yet this is this is us getting hit okay at the state of hormones and but trump posted a video if you can go to the video of trump saying what would happen if car gaiolin was hit can you go to the clip of car gaiolin clip that he just posted yeah mean so this is this is legit stuff of what they did but trump goes and says here's just with car gaiolin yeah there you go car gaiolin he posted a video showing look at look at these damages by by car he just did this okay so show in we're about to attack you what are you going to do and this
video is a lot longer this is just one of the clips that he posted there's another one as well if you go back you can find another one there's a couple of these that they posted go back go lower a little bit go lower a little bit that's the one right there you just posted a bunch of them Vinnie okay he's been posting these the last week left and right left and right um do you think a part of this time has to do to call China and say China I know the 8% you rely of the oil you get from Iran we got you I'm gonna score this away for you and I'm gonna get it for you at a cost so you're gonna save some money maybe we'll make a nickel on it maybe we'll make five ten dollars maybe we'll sell it at 30 bucks okay instead of at 20 bucks do you think a part of that is also being played here or not at all there's no correlation between the two I think it absolutely is this is this is 3d chess the first thing is now long term we've got more reserves coming in what also is happening here people got to take a look at these numbers that are going to be going into infrastructure in Venezuela 209 billion dollars in tax revenue for the company to build water
pumping that works 24 hours a day maybe electrical power stations that work 20 hours a day maybe and to rebuild what was once a very proud country and now I think that's first layer of chess second layer of chess China needs oil and if there is a permanent destabilization of Iran or car giralain needs to be rebuilt over a couple years hint hint what you're talking about pat that hurts China and then you go to China and I've always felt that the best way to pay off our national debt was to drill an on-war and sell to China at below world market but add a profit over extraction and now slowly pay off our debt and make China pay off our debt and China's part of the reason we have the debt here in terms of trade and balance and things so I think there's 3d chess going on and there is a big number going on with China if you put your foot on the hose on one side and become a major energy exporter on the other side then you can you can balance your relationship a
little bit more with China everybody's going to come in comments and say no no China's going the back door to do this really you can only go in the back door if there's still a backyard and if carg island is disrupted then there may be a back door for China but there's the back yard full of oil while while you're saying there's no back door she hasn't visited the middle east since 2020 20 20 just visited Egypt he just got to Egypt so yeah that you don't think they're trying they're trying well in Egypt is different it could be a statement of saying hey we're not relying on the golf states because the golf states are all with Trump and he's kind of worried this is his way of maybe showing like hey Iran I can't go to Iran if he goes to Iran it's public saying I'm with Iran yeah if he does that there's no question about it but going to Egypt as a back channel to say hey we're still having some relationships with Iran of way of showing up but I do think there's something with this that has to do with China and Iran because behind closed doors if the US is trying to destroy Iran's economy and put that kind of pressure on them you have to make the
phone call to China make China right for them to be okay with it because if you you don't get that relationship right you kind of screwed Adam yeah you know people say the the the term 3d chess with Trump I use a different term which is sequencing which you always use because if you play this out what did Trump basically say that he's going to do day one that he got into office he's going to drill baby drill so just follow the sequencing of what he did he basically the declared a national emergency with our oil situation the strategic petroleum reserve which is based in the golf coast of Texas and Louisiana so what did he do he changed the golf of Mexico to the Gulf of America symbolic and literal for a strategic oil reserve yeah then he basically said Alaska I'm going to have you start drilling up there over there get into everything that's going to Alaska then he implemented the Don Road doctrine he said before we do anything with Iran let's focus on the western hemisphere all right we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna take down the Panama Canal Canal and we're gonna before
we do anything in Iran we're gonna go basically capture Maduro and take over Venezuela who's been running Venezuela since the beginning of the year well it's the vice-roy they call Marco Rubio just another little costume that Marco Rubio can put on so then before they even went to Iran they lockdown our strategic petroleum reserve they basically produced more oil they controlled the supply they're pumping oil internally there and they said all right before we even go into Iran let's make sure that we have everything what do they say uh uh very very the hatchet or uh about your ducks in order well I haven't uh when you when you basically uh hold down the hatchet whatever they call about that he basically secured everything in our hemisphere said before we go over to Iran uh we're good to go so as much as we give Trump that we call we call him like an irrational actor some people basically say he's a crazy man it seems as if it was all strategic sequencing from day one from drill baby drill all the way to Iran I'm up to 65 billion barrels how
long would that last us Tom how long would that last six oh my god like we're good no yeah because you have to think about this way I believe our usage is 21 million barrels a day I think is our usage and I think our self creation our drilling is 14 million barrels a day so we have a net of six that we get from other places however not all of that 14 million is usable here so we actually sell it abroad and then we own the national natural gas market we're providing 60% of natural gas to Europe and so now what you do when some of this comes in like this good lord you know you're talking about billions and billions I think this is big I think this is huge I think this is big and and and I I hope they I hope there's an intention with Iran in mind because every day that goes by is one less day Iran has to deal with Trump every day if JD gets elected or AOC gets elected Iran's free and so when you have this much pressure on Iran this long everybody in the
world realize dealing with Iran is a lot more complicated than you think it's not Venezuela they have their shit together they've been ready for this for a long time the chances of you creating this level of tension again could take a very very long time so if you're here you're gonna do it you might as well get it down let me get to the next story next I want to get to is a story of a father who is out there I'll read the story to you can you pull up this clip please father of daughter main by illegal alien slams Democrat there's no way you guys are sorry the way he breaks this down says you guys act like you're sorry but none of you guys called me is this that clip by the way that he says none of you guys called me can you guys put a thumbs up there in the back okay go forward watch this clip folks when I took my daughter in at night time she's not a Republican she's not a Democrat she's seven years old and there's hundreds of them how is that okay how are you
guys not fighting for this right here how are you guys not fighting for this I I reject your guys a sympathy to be honest with you there's no way you guys are sorry not one of you guys have ever called me I want you guys have ever reached out to me now when you guys have ever sat there and seen in the hallways and said hey sorry about your daughter you guys do it right here what you guys are grandstanding on top of your soapbox this is when you guys care wow I I but I this is the he goes on for like three four minutes it's so uncomfortable because he's absolutely right none of them care but when they're in that room it's oh my god we are so sorry we're so sorry and mind you how many times for for a year two years by the way she's permanently disabled permanently disabled because in a legal in his car crash into her uh disabled innocent from a truck driven by an undocumented immigrant illegal uh and crash into her and then she's uh permanently paralyzed because of because of them and I love it that it needs to be more of those
moments where you call them out to their faces it was four minutes of just awkwardness and they need to be exposed they need to be because all of them are just sitting there and have nothing to say because everything always reverts to oh again Trump and TDS and it's every person's you know we have to care for everybody but these are the actual stories his daughter's never gonna walk again because this guy wasn't here because the left like the I have these people come in here because they're a part of their voting block good unhappy for him that's one of the best clips I've seen all time I think what you have here is when you protect your voting blocks and you refuse to criticize and you refuse to rage right-minded conclusions about what's happening in right in front of you this is what you get you get Jamie Raskin and and J. Pals sitting there saying nothing because that hearing that they're going through is not a hearing for them to conduct it's just an hour for them to get through because they're not going to criticize illegal aliens coming to United
States they're not going to criticize California's lack of daisicle standard that gave some of them sea licenses which stands for commercial license to drive a truck they're not going to talk about the truck that made a U-turn with two illegal aliens in it and a SUV with a family and it was slaughtered when he made a U-turn directly across a 70 mile an hour highway they're not going to talk about that they're going to protect the voting block and by how they protect the voting block here is they don't say anything Jamie Raskin they just sit there just just stalled and this is what sickened me in pursuit of a voting block they give up a country yeah I'm with it Adam I remember a time when there was really no major clear distinction between Republicans and Democrats I remember one of the first time I voted was in 2000 was Al Gore versus uh Bush and I remember being like what's the difference between Republicans and Democrats 25 years later you're talking to fundamentally totally different parties and if there's one thing that you can differentiate between
what Trump and Magistans for and what the modern Democratic Party controlled by the DSA stands for it comes down to one thing and that is this open border situation it turns out this open border thing that Biden was doing oh my god I don't know how we're going to control it Trump shut that thing down in one day and now illegal border crossings is basically at nothing at this point and these are the ramifications the consequences of what happens back when you let I don't know 10 plus million people in the country so when we say elections have consequences this is exactly what we're talking about right here and it could be very crazy in 2028 folks it could be a very different America we could be doing a podcast in 2028 2029 in a very different climate and I'm not even kidding I agree in a very different climate okay up with some good stories Tiger Woods changes plea in the U.I. case drivers license suspended for five years and I think that's actually a good story Tiger Woods pleaded no contest in his D.U.I. case Wednesday in Florida court except in a five-year driver's license suspension as part of a plea deal the first charge was amended to
reckless driving second offense and then the second to careless driving with suspension running concurrently the suspension is for the safety of the public there's no exceptions if you were to drive for any reason at all you would go and meet it back to jail Woods was arrested March 27 after a roll over crash on Jupiter Island and one no one was injured authorities said he clipped the truck truck's trailer while passing tipping his SUV the two hydro condoned pills were found in his pants pocket that for David said a breathalyzer shows no alcohol but Woods refused a urine test so you know this is not a story I want to spend a lot of time on I love Tiger Woods I think Tiger was one of those guys that you just loved watching this story when and seeing go from who he was as a kid to winning to the incredibly disciplined family he was raised and from a young age it was on Johnny Carson golf and people like who was this two-year-old kid hidden the golf ball the way he did and if you've ever seen his documentary there's two different
tigers there's the extremely psycho competitive Tiger that wants to kill you and there's the lighthearted fun chill child it just wants to be a kid and enjoy himself I was in a poker tournament one time with Tiger with him Russell Westbrook and Phil Hall Muth and a bunch of different guys Ortiz was there and you know I had a conversation with Tiger we're sitting there having a conversation taking on like this guy does not look he looks like he's in a ton of pain like you look at his face you have an conversation with him you could tell the man is in a ton of pain it comes a certain time in your life where you seriously should not drive you seriously shouldn't be driving the world's a better place without Tiger Woods driving and by the way that includes for his own family you're a billionaire you have the money and you know like personalities like me Vinnie I like to drive I know you do I like to get up on a car and go I don't want to just sit there and wait well just guess what have the driver staying the car all day anytime you want to go let him just take you wherever
you want to go to and there's an element of privacy when you're driving you know what I'm saying like you just you want a bit of privacy to yourself make it as private as you want in a bag get some kind of a nice limo where the back is so private that the driver cannot hear who you're talking to what you're doing any of that stuff sometimes if you're with a driver they know exactly you're I'm well if I'm on the road driving with a driver they can hear anything and everything you don't have the kind of a privacy but I'm glad this has happened and I'm happy for him and I actually think his family is also probably happy that a Tiger Woods is not going to be driving and please Tiger whatever you do and so many people love you and care for you sincerely don't try to do this and we have to see a video of you going to jail because the judge already told you if you drive you going to jail don't risk it and I know it is certain personalities of ours we like to break rules and we think we can get away with stuff I don't know the last time Trump troll there's a video of Trump driving in his blue Lamborghini and he's telling his son look everybody loves me and down June you're told the story they're flipping off my dad and my dad saying down look everybody loves me everybody
loves me I think you're at that level they just got to go enjoy yourself be with your family do your thing if you come back to golf awesome great we'll celebrate if not you're in a league of your own and a good support around you which sounds like you obviously have it you have support from the president all the way at the top your friends with them a ton of people are rooting for you that would be my feedback to Tiger I'm kind of glad he's not going to be doing that Tom a real quick I get annoyed with the media they love to see a celebrity and then they love the thriftings in the store and they're saying hydrocodone was found in his pocket hydrocodone is a pain killer and he has got excruciating pain in his knee and his ankle when he's warming up apparently it takes a while to get them get those going in the morning and these these are pain killers that he has on a prescription basis for that pain he's an athlete that's got residual pain he's also had injuries to that knee that that that and it just kind of discussed me that people don't see a person first of all it's good these not driving get a driver tiger and all the golf jokes about
drivers center side get yourself a professional driver that can go with you but to the rest of you that see the little bits in there this is you know you prescribe these things and so we want to make it like you some junkier I'm not trying to make a joke out of this I don't make it a joke no I'm not talking about you I'm talking about the media likes to grab it and connect your your your tiger you're going to look he already knows you're the greatest of all time without your injuries you would have passed the jack necklace record everybody knows this the run that he had was second to not but I'll just say two things one good one bad the bad there is zero excuse for tiger to be behind the wheel at these days you the the ability to take an uber for someone who just makes a minimum wage much less have being a millionaire much less be a person worth a half a billion dollars there's zero excuse you have zero leniency for me thank god he didn't kill himself thank god he didn't kill someone else zero leniency you see you see incidents like Tony Romo last month or
with Justin Timberlake last year double dumb at the same time if there's anybody in need of an image makeover of a new PR person a new everything all around him for new opportunities at tiger woods tiger woods is one of the most beloved athletes of all time and america loves a comeback story and i think nothing that we would love to see more than tiger get it shit together next face and have a comeback just the next phase go be the father help your son become you know go go play different role in life you've done your part with the time to move on i want to show you guys a clip here and then maybe we'll wrap up on this and we'll finish it up is you know i'm 47 years old at 47 years old gods give them an incredible life i've had dinner with some of the most interesting people in the world i've had conversations with my phone rings and sometimes i have no clue is going to call me and all of a sudden i'm like oh okay i'm very weird phone calls you get at this phase had the calls had the jewelry had the house had had everything all the stuff that you want to experience it's been an incredible life the family all of it Rick Warren who wrote the book
Purpose Driven Life which i think sold 50 million copies okay he's given a commencement speech at a university i don't what did he what do you call those speeches when he give out a university yeah i'm not just a message to each other university and he explains to these students what matters the most he says i've been bet side by thousands of people who have died or took their last breath that's an incredible amount of wisdom and experience while you're there with people who are about to die i want you listen to this don't you listen to this because i think we need to be reminded of this more often go for it it's good at the bet side of maybe thousands of people as they took their last breath what people say in their final moments um it's pretty important they don't mess around when people are dying in their last words nobody has ever said uh past Rick bring me my trophies i want to look at them one more time or even bring me my college graduation certificate i want to look at it one more time
when people are dying and they know their time is short what they want in the room is not things or trophies or achievement what they want are the people they love eventually we all eventually figure out that it's all about love it's all about relationships i just pray you'll figure it out a whole lot sooner that it's not about achievement that it's not about fame that it's not about fortunes that it's not about all the things that you dream of accomplishing in life those are great goals but paul says without love i am nothing i am sounding brass and tingling symbol if i have not love i'm nothing what a powerful i love that what a wow by the way you know it's crazy we're at the vault and we're having these conversations at one moment i'm interviewing may weather may what's our how do you know that guys name how do you know that guys then we're doing a Q&A session i don't know if you remember that or yeah yeah yeah yeah you said those are my guys those are my guys what do you have to tell you and there's this one
thing on instagram that when you add the sound to it you know how you add the sound and this is one of my favorite ones listen i don't have a favorite place i have my favorite people that whenever i'm with my favorite people that place becomes my favorite i've gone to the world's craziest places with people that i didn't enjoy their company i was miserable and i've gone to fricking chipotle with my favorite people in the world and i'm happier there than i was happier being in fricking you know take a country to go to that everybody wants to go to people matter your relationships matter and as you age there is nothing like building the right community it is on us to do it and by the way this is also something we have to do for ourselves for our kids you know the goal in life is for you to build a good community around your kids when we go to dinner and bailies and town and she's telling me what's going on with her at rice and what she wants to do next on law school and seeing
the kids talking and times telling me yesterday he calls me how protective she is of tico and her you know that's like their younger brother because they're they hang out with each other that's the community we just talked about earlier when we tell some of these stories about you know what if this person's values where this what if that person's values where were you good with your kids being around them some of the most important things you'll do in life it's got to be in your top three list top five list is finding the right community of people you love whom you feel safe to that you can say anything you know it's not going to leak you know it's going to stay amongst you you know they're going to defend you do you know they're going to protect you know they're not going to cross the cardinal rules of wife, daughter, kids, family this respect you know the all that you can have all the money in the world and you don't have that you're broke in my eyes you have to water those relationships there is nothing like it there's nothing like it you know I always say people make fun of me I almost want to change my Twitter profile and just say
I'm a numbers guy so I'm about to numbers guy I'm a numbers guy I'm a numbers guy I love two things man I love people and I love numbers it was my thing when I went into the financial industry and this this year's vault conference was very emotional it was something different you know this behind the scenes all the stuff that we did it was a very different kind of an event and if you were there we shared we shared a magical magical bond together we laughed we cried all of it it was phenomenal folks whatever you do just go find the right community for the sake of your kids yourself sometimes we don't think about how big of a role a community plays you know when uh uh Stephen A. We're having lunch one of the days I don't know what we're at you we're still selling merch because you people were coming to you left and right yeah we're having lunch with Stephen A and his whole crew is there and uh his daughter got into USC and uh pretty pretty very cool school program that she got into and hey she says hey dad I did my part I got my 4.0 plus
GPA now it's on you to do your part and Stephen A's got a community so he can make a phone call and have some of that so imagine if you have relationships like this protect this community long term it could be the impact for your kids you're gonna need that one phone call to very by the way you will be judged by friends you keep I'll never forget one time I was at Grand Cardone's podcast and he said something he's talking to one of our guys Paula Scarcica Paulie Paulie is a funny guy man but he says never marry a shrimp and Paul's like what are you talking about this is never marry shrimp Paul's confused at this time and then we start talking my marriage he says you know have to battle this you can marry somebody like me but he says can my wife keep me he said this he says you can have a great friend but can you keep him you can have a great wife or a husband can you keep him you can have a great relation but can you keep him the retention has happened in 80% of the job you can get into the door but can you keep that relationship all the money in the world folks won't come close to the community you build and for those of you guys that was stayed with us
on Labor Day should be barbecue and today barbecue should be out there like sleeping in today isn't that what most people do but the crazy one stayed with us today yeah so for me to you thank you for tuning in with us especially the ones that were on for the entire time if you just got in last five minutes you're not an all-time reunion you get the six o'clock in the morning type of people Pacific standard time bunch of people are messaging saying I missed today's podcast we appreciate you and I want to wrap it up with this our icon collection for those of you guys that were at the vault my goodness we're going to launch some things in the next few weeks that you haven't seen before but this latest icon collection times got one of the hats on please play the clip of the latest FLB icon collection go for it. Three journeys starts with the choice people who inspire us don't wait for the path ahead they create their own from handcrafted Italian leather by generations of artisans engineered for life and motion every piece is created with purpose for the work the
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