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I'd like to welcome to the show James on Prague, how you doing James?

Very good Alex.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you so much for coming on the show, my friend.

I'm excited to talk to you've been in this spiritual game for a couple of years now,

about 40, give or take a year, give or take a year or two, right?

That's it.

You were doing this work when it wasn't truly in vogue, if you would.

Yeah, I know.

I was the first medium on television, I was out there and I didn't want to do it, I moved

to LA to be a sitcom writer because I'm funny, so I thought I'd make money as a broadcasting

sitcom writer, which I've done a couple, by the way, but it was there that I went through

a series of jobs in LA, temporary jobs, ended up with the way a moris agency, not in

the mail, but in the basement, playing staples out of contracts eight hours a day, and I

was there.

I knew I had to be there for some reason.

I thought, there's something going on here, maybe I'll meet an agent, I'll get me a sitcom,

whatever.

And it was there that I had a supervisor who said, you want to go see a medium?

And I said, what is that?

And she said, he's someone to talk to the dead people.

Now I just moved to LA from New York, said the cynical New Yorker, and her California

landed fruit.

And that's I'm like, okay, here we go in California.

So I, I, I, I, I, you were this lady and I went to see this gentleman by the name of Brian

Hurst.

And I walked into his apartment in Manhattan Beach and he said, you're a medium.

And I said, well, thank you.

The small, but thank you.

And now the spirit world they want to use you as a change of consciousness.

And, and two years time, they're going to do that.

And I'm like, thinking, okay, this is crazy.

But he went on to open, give me a message from loved ones who passed over, detailed messages,

really incredible stuff.

And I was fascinated.

How do this guy do this?

So I went to a place in LA called the Bodhi Tree, which would probably be very familiar

with Bodhi Tree and on Melrose.

And I used to go every weekend and sit and read as much as I could and all of the subjects

from near-to-the-experiences to in LA and texts to everything.

You mentioned, I, at your case, everything.

And I started meditating, not knowing how to, but I just, just relaxed myself and visualized

a rose or whatever and I became very, very sensitized.

I went through my series of jobs and I remember it was, I was working at Paramount Studios.

And it was, I was a contract administrator.

So I moved for the Weymour, say to say to Paramount Studios there, you know, and I was

working in the contract for syndication shows.

And I remember it was 12, 30th of the afternoon, I just come back from lunch and I went to

my cubicle and this girl next to me, her name is Joe Dallas.

And she walked into her cubicle and I looked over and I saw a dead lady standing next to

Joe Dallas.

And this dead lady looked at me like staring at me like six cents on his shirt and like,

oh, and she said telepathically, I am her grandmother.

I lived in Idaho, a white house, the yellow shutters.

We did a footstool together and other things and be like, what?

So I asked this girl does this make sense?

Every detail and she said, oh, yeah, that's my grandmother.

We made a pact that when she goes, she'd come back and tell me she was okay.

So I freaked out, ran out of Paramount, what was happening with me, went to my apartment

and I was going to go on.

And I didn't know who to call because it sounded like it was crazy.

And I like, who'd you go to?

So I called up that man, Brian, her, the medium.

And I told him was going on and he said, James, don't you remember the prediction, the

spirit world made?

And I said, yes.

So James, I was two years ago today.

So everything has a divine order, you see.

And he took me under his wing and really helped me develop my mediumship and my sensitivity.

And then it was really a matter of me deciding, I can contact with my guides and it was really

me deciding with them.

They said, if you work with us, we'll always take care of you.

And it was a matter of faith.

I was being tested, obviously.

And I knew that the loving energy that I felt when I worked with that way, in a mediumistic

way, that there was nothing that could ever be better than that, this love.

So I said, yes, I'd do it.

And from that point on, I started doing a message of readings with seven years in development.

They started doing readings with people.

And I was all bored of mouth.

And I'd be two readings a day and it went on for, I was booked for two years at a time

and so forth.

And then eventually I'd produce, just come to my house and get a reading my apartment.

And then I was unsolved mysteries.

And then I was on a show called The Other Side NBC in the early 90s.

And that was the first time the medium has been on.

I was in their pilot program and the pilot in crazy and you're on for about a year.

And that was really my stepping off point.

And then it was on, I wrote a book called Talking to Heaven based on my work.

I'm giving the short version of this whole thing.

And I went on Larry King and the book was, it was funny.

It was very, very funny.

The spirit world said to me, it's going to be a book that'll change the world and

like, okay.

So I'm open to it.

So I went to Larry King's show and the book had 6,000 copies initial printing.

I went on that show December 7, 1996, I think it was, 1997.

And the book went from 6,000 to 600,000 in less than a month.

And the CNN bureaus around the world did not stop ringing, the telephone was it's ringing

till it started Friday at six o'clock, didn't end till Sunday 3pm around the world.

And they were constantly bombarded.

So that was the, they called the miracle of publishing in those days.

And that got that opened up to do it for a lot of different things to have.

So, so when that, thank you for that very, it was a really, it's your life history, life

history that you had there when you, when you were, you weren't raised, you raised religious

spiritual.

How would you raise?

I was raised Catholic.

My mother was very Irish Catholic and my father was Presbyterian.

He didn't really care about either one.

And so I went through a Catholic school for eight years.

And then I went to a seminary to be a priest for a year, don't ask.

And but it was really a sense of, I enjoyed the, the, I guess you'd say the, the incense

and the, the, the, the ceremonial right, that part of it.

I love that.

I love the prayer part.

But it didn't understand certain things like eating the body, drinking the blood of Christ

because for an eight year old, you know, what does that mean to the cannibals?

So it didn't fit for me, but there was essence, there was an essence of it that I liked.

It filled me up.

So I would say to you that, um, I, you know, people often asked me about religions and

I said, well, there are certain things to religion will teach us and with everything

in life, you take what works for you, what resonates to your soul and you throw back the

rest.

And for me, that was that sense of service of humankind.

That really set there that service even kind and making, you know, being good to people,

living the golden rule.

And that's really helped with that foundation, I'd say.

So so when you started to, I mean, because I was raised also Roman Catholic.

So I'm still, you and I are both recovering, I'm assuming, uh, recovering Roman Catholics.

But when, um, when you were kind of confronted with this idea of mediumship, now I'm Latino

from, from where I'm from, from this idea of passion, very, very.

So this, this concept of mediumships and psychics is culturally kind of baked in to the Latino

culture, South American culture, Caribbean culture, absolutely.

But from Europe, Irish Catholic, that's so much.

So when this was presented to you and you started hearing ideas or voices, you thought you

were going to create, how did you reconcile the religious, the Roman Catholic gave you

with this new version of, of what's happening to you in this great question.

And I have to go back to my childhood because of my childhood, I used to see spirit all

the time.

I used to, all the time, when I was really a toddler in the crib, I remember, they, they,

I remember very well.

They put me in the back room in the crib and I wanted to be with the adults in the living

room.

And I remember my father used to come back and give me a big lollipop thing and that's

going to do it.

But every night, I'd see this man with white hair in the corner of the room.

He'd walk over the crib and he'd had some kind of toy, he'd play with me.

And years later, my grandmother was showing me a photograph album and we, she turned

to page and I said, who's that man?

She said, oh, that's your grandfather.

He died before you were born and that was that man.

And he's come several times since that.

And then I had a lot of those experiences of a child and he'd play with friends out in

front of the street, you know, stick ball or whatever it was.

And I'd see a spirit around them.

I'd see their aura, the colors around them.

And I thought every kid could do that.

Everybody could do this.

This wasn't anything weird.

A unique was just their way it was.

And when they started saying, oh, you're a weirdo, I'm like, I'm not a weirdo.

Just they see those things.

And I remember I was saying prayers at night with my mother would say prayers every night

before I go to sleep.

And I would, once happened, I saw these beings at the end of the bed, these lights around

them.

Who are those people with the lights on?

And just, oh, them?

Those are God's angels.

I have to see them too.

And I was a little girl.

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She was very into Shatun, my grandparents both sides were very in tune from the Welsh

background and the Irish background.

There was very much that natural ability, and it does pass in families.

So to me, it was, I don't know, it didn't feel separate from the religion was a way of

thinking, I guess, for some people to belong.

I've never gotten into it, but I knew what was natural for me, and I've always lived

my life that way.

It was natural.

And one thing Alex, which I'm going to share with you and for all your people watching

or listening to this, the one of the biggest things I've knew from very beginning is I

knew who I was.

And I think when one person knows who they are, then they stay pretty grounded and

they go forth.

And I never care where the people thought of me, because they think what other people

think of you as none of your business, because nobody gets to know you better than

yourself.

So I know who I am.

I think we all have to know who we are.

And I think the religions, I think people are searching for something to fill up their

soul.

And maybe that religion does it.

And what religion does to me is it reminds us who we are, yeah, they can help assist us

in that reminding.

It's a mediumship to me, I guess for my love, my development, my soul development expansion,

it's very natural.

And I know it prepared, as I think we all do prepare for our life, our role in this

lifetime.

And I'm very much a firm believer, I'm not sure you are not in quantum physics.

And I believe in past life, future lives, all lives at one.

I know that I've definitely prepared for this lifetime to communicate with the spirit world

and to change the consciousness of the planet.

I never thought that before, but I see it's happening.

And things are very, very different now than they were on a first starter, of course.

Now we're much more accepting of other ways of thinking, alternative ways of being and

so forth.

Well, this conversation weren't of happened in 1980.

That's right.

That's right.

I remember there were people that used to, um, that skeptics who used to go to the studio

and watch me do, uh, work, my demonstration work.

And they would say, oh, he did cold reading.

And I'd say, what is that?

I don't even know what that means.

You know, things for you, you ask certain questions and they give you answers and, and all

the stuff is coming out.

I mean, like, that doesn't work for me.

That's, that's not what I'm doing.

That's not, not, all these people are ignorant.

They're not aware of how I do this.

And they're making these things up.

It's like, that's bad.

You can't do that.

So they didn't understand it.

And I think, in most of the world is ignorant, so if people don't understand something,

they put it down.

I think fear, you know, unfortunately, living fear and fear is limiting, of course.

I think fear is a human emotion, not spiritual.

I think it's very human.

And I think when people don't understand something, they judge it because they, they fear it.

They live in fear.

They judge it because they want to be better than, they want to be in control, if you will.

So if I put you down with that and the fear of full and make you worse than judge you,

then I feel better than.

And it's just fear based, basically.

Well, yeah.

And any time there's something that kind of shakes the foundation of your belief system,

you either, if you're insecure about that, you will then fight back.

If you're secure, you could, you could tell me that the sky is perfect.

And I would be like, there's fine for you, but it's not my truth.

I don't have to, I don't have to go on and kill you.

Like, no, the sky is blue.

And we start a tribe about the sky is blue people.

And we're going to go kill everybody and everybody makes sure everybody knows that the sky is blue.

You know, that's where it comes, but it comes from a level of insecurity,

because if you are secure with your belief system, you don't have to attack or defend.

That's just is.

Am I right?

Do you think you're back 100% and it's also a control issue.

So many people think I've got to be in control.

I've got to control my environment.

I control what happens in my life.

The truth is we have no control.

You can't control another person.

You can't control what someone says.

The only thing we can control is how we respond to things.

But when people freak out, oh my God, there's outside of my paradigm.

What am I going to do?

Well, it's a paradigm shift.

And you know, that's really important that people realize they have no control.

Once you realize you have no control over the people.

And what other people think of you as none of your business, you shift.

You open up and you expand, no?

You have done probably tens of thousands of readings over the course of your career.

Yeah.

And all those times you've must have had an inside view of the human psyche

in a way that most human beings don't get in a lifetime.

Is that a fair statement?

To a point.

To a point.

I mean, there's some, you know, it's worlds within worlds within worlds.

Really?

Think about it, just such a vastness and expansion.

So I definitely have had a look at certain aspects of the human

and how they play and the soul self and the different dimensions of the soul

and different sense of awareness, if you will.

And I'm very down the earth, I'm pretty grounded.

I'm double earth son, Capricorn and Virgo.

I'm pretty down the earth about things, which I think is very helpful in this regard.

So to me, I like to say that, yeah, I've been a witness of all these different types of experiences.

And to me, it was back to the simple truth that we are souls having an experience,

not the other way around.

We're souls first having this human, this is our school, it's our souls school.

And there are many, many schools.

This is one of the most unevolved, I guess you could say,

because we're still killing one another, we're still fighting,

we still think money is power and so forth.

So unfortunately, we're not evolved because, you know,

when you kill one another person, you're killing yourself.

We're all connected, of course.

So we're not really evolved in that respect, you know?

Here's a simple one, which I like, that life to me,

as I've learned these things, the simple truths.

Spirit says, it's always very simple.

It's the, it really is simple truth, it's very simple,

but the human being likes to get caught up in the complexity of the simplicity.

See, they want things to be complex,

because it's complex that means something, not necessarily.

To me, it is really, it's all about choices in life.

So we are souls, we come back and choose, if you will.

Our family, our friends, our lessons

are going to learn this lifetime.

And a series of choices,

choice of based on either the two things, either love or fear.

And that's really it.

And fear, F-E-A-R, false ego appearing real, right,

is limiting where love is expansive.

And we're here to love.

Our natural vibration is of love, the soul is of love, not fear.

Fear is of the human vibration.

So it's very interesting to see if people just go back in their lives

and see what they chose that of fear,

whether they'll think of them,

where my parents want me to do,

what society wants me to do to be accepted,

or did you live in love?

Just do you, do you, do you, do you, do you want to do it?

And see the difference.

And it's amazing.

So it's a simple truth, if you will.

So can you explain to people what the process is for you?

Are you seeing, are you hearing voices?

Are you seeing people?

Do you see dead people?

Why is it dead people?

Or is it like images in your mind?

What is the actual process when you're doing a reading?

Sure, a great question.

So it's just a little bit of background here.

It's that to me, and it's my experience I've had,

that the soul is, many people think the soul is encompassed

in the physical body, not really.

I would say my equation might be off a little bit,

but the idea behind it is right,

that 70% of the soul's outside the body,

only 30% is here.

We are living on these fields, I call them mind fields,

outside here, and at many, many levels,

I call them these mind fields,

and the mind is the soul, the soul is the mind.

And this remnant, the smaller part here,

is I call it the big toe to the soul,

because there's more of us outside here than in here.

So what I do in preparation of communication,

and because the spirit world is all around us,

it's not up there heaven or hell, it's all around us.

It's all these different vistas and fields,

if you will, around us,

that vibrate and move it to a certain rate of speed.

So we have all around us in types of waves,

gamma rays, x-rays, microwaves, television waves,

all these different waves of energy.

And once I said this to Barbara Walters,

I said, you know, Barbara, she asked me on the view,

well, how does this work?

How does this work?

I said, so you're working in a field of television,

and you're not sure how it works.

And she goes, well, right?

When you think about it, I have a broadcast degree,

right?

I have a broadcast degree.

And I said to her, you know how it works, Barbara,

is your television, the station is sending in a signal, right?

It sends it a certain signal, a certain vibration.

And there are receptors on the televisions,

the receivers that receive that certain vibration,

and able to use, take that vibration

and manifest it in a visual, right?

That's basic, basic broadcasting there.

And so, oh, so same thing works with mediumship in that.

I have to attune myself to a higher frequency,

a higher vibration of energy.

So it's all energy.

And the mind, what I do with my mind

in many years of development of this,

is I bring my mind to a certain space,

an altered state of consciousness, you could say,

to a higher level of consciousness,

where it's a vibration very, very quick.

So mind is very, very open.

And what I do is, because the spirit people,

when they communicate with us,

they have to, everything is done with thought.

It's available in a thought world.

It's all thought, we have the physical world,

they're in a mental world.

So everything in that world moves with thought.

And they have to think to themselves,

okay, I want to communicate.

So I'm a slow knife that's self-down

to the level that the medium's able to receive me.

So they consciously think, slow myself down.

They lower themselves down to a certain level.

The medium raises up their vibration,

and they meet in the middle.

And that's why it's called medium in the middle.

And what happens is, and then I raise myself up to that space.

I've done it so many years now, Alex,

it's like push a button and there it is.

And really, but they come in.

This is an interesting, interesting one,

that all the spirits that come and communicate,

you have to realize that they might not have

never done this before.

It might be the very first time they're doing this.

So just because they're dead,

it doesn't mean they know how to do this.

It's a process.

So many times when I do demonstrations

or call them for audiences or people online,

there'll be beings around me,

spirit people who have nothing to do

with the people that are in the demonstration

or on the Zoom call, they're watching the process

so that another time they might come through

and do the process the right way.

So they have to slow down their thoughts

and create in their minds a picture.

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And now back to the show, which could be represented

in memory, could be a picture of that person

they loved when doing something a day before.

And if it's conceived of this concept,

and sent it to the medium's mind.

And the medium, there was nothing about them,

nothing about these people or anything.

So I had to be open enough to say,

I see a calendar.

It says February 28, 1985.

I know I feel there's a lady here.

I feel like there's a mother feeling.

And I'm feeling, oh, and she's shows me now.

She's now showing me it clearly.

She didn't image that brown hair and blue eyes

and a beautiful red smile.

And she wears a yellow, daisy dress.

She loved the yellow, daisy dress.

And yes, that's my mother.

That's exactly what she would wear.

And that's the day she died.

And then, so it depends on the spirit,

because everyone is communicating differently.

They're just like in this human life,

some people are visual, some people are auditory,

some people are sensed.

Most of us sense things.

We walk into a room and meet someone, we sense.

So the sense sense first, as a medium,

I get the sense of them, they push into my mind,

the sense of what they want to say.

And my guide to work with me and their guides

will help them to prepare or go through, if you will,

the correct way of sending a thought,

of creating an emotion state,

of bringing that to the medium's mind

that I'm able to understand it.

Another interesting fact is that the mind of the medium

is very, very important.

So as the makeup of the medium,

as a makeup for myself, my personality depends a lot,

but it affects a lot.

I'm a person, as you can tell, a good sense of humor.

I like to joke, I'm very down the earth, I'm very real.

But I love not thinking over-seriously just lighter.

And so the best spirits that I have communicate

will be those who are aligned to my personality traits.

So I bring through great sense of humor,

like the good time, who are very serious,

who are very kind, so that works in line

with my personality traits,

and my aspects, my soul aspects,

and it makes it reading very successful.

That doesn't mean I can't bring other spirits through, I do.

Like I would usually bring other people through,

but the easier ones are ones that are aligned

to my personality traits.

I don't want to add to yourself.

No, I completely get everything you're saying.

So is there an energy issue with you?

So do you get a wave of energy?

Because channelers have that.

Channels get like this wave of energy.

A lot of times I've heard that they've had to kind of,

on the other side, and here prep their nervous system

to handle this flow.

How does it work with you, and mediums?

Yes, very, very good.

So sitting in what I call development,

and sitting in the stillness of your being,

which is really, to me, a really important

in developing mediums, and I have a school online,

and it's been dedicated to that.

And it's really about preparation, I should say.

So preparing the space.

To me, working with the spirit world

is just, here go back to the religion now.

To me, it's very sacred.

So it's like going to mass.

It's like you're setting up the sacred space.

And to me, you're a representative, as a medium,

I'm a representative of the spirit world.

And to me, it's an interesting one.

I work for them.

I don't work for the living.

I really work for them.

They're my boss.

And that my job is to bring through information

that will help the spirit person come through

and to move on.

So this is an interesting one.

Just because someone passes away,

doesn't mean they go right to have,

and they go here, they go there,

many times because they pass over

into the mental world, right?

It's a mental world.

What we all have once we pass over is a life review.

And we're outside of time.

So you're not, with a clock, it doesn't

in your time anymore.

So what happens is you tend to see all those moments

in the lifetime that you lived,

that you had impressed others

or what you said to someone.

So the example I like to use is,

let's say you want a really bad mood one day,

and you went to the gasoline station

and yelled at the person the clerk

behind the cash register.

And that person yelled at a storekeeper,

the partner in store.

And the person in store went home and yelled at their family

and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I'm not rippling the fact.

When you have that life review,

you're gonna become that person behind the cash register

and you're gonna feel everything they felt

when you yelled at them 10 times, 20 times,

30 times stronger than originally sent.

And you'll become aware of how your thought, your word,

the fact that that person, and that person,

and that person, and you'll see the rippling effect

of your one thought and your one word.

That's kind of scary, right?

Especially living a life where you hurt people,

you know, that's your own hell.

So you create your own heaven, your own hell,

basically, your thoughts, words of deeds.

So my job is really, as a medium, is to bring through,

let's say, that spirit who has unfinished business,

who's ever come back and say,

I'm sorry to my, to his daughter.

I'm sorry I didn't love you.

I didn't know how to love.

So how could I love you?

I'm so sorry.

So it's unfinished business, basically,

with my job is to bring through that.

So I provide proof of life after death.

So in, but it isn't, okay, I agree with that.

But doesn't that get caught up in karma?

Meaning like in another life they deal with that?

Or can they deal with it?

Or can they deal with it like this?

100%.

So what's going on is they kept, again,

it's a learning, it's learning, learning, learning,

that what you give out, you get back.

And that's karma.

So the reaction is a reaction, right?

So every act that someone does has a reaction.

And that's a natural law.

So there's a natural law involved.

So yes, but if they can, if they can willingly

have the awareness to say, I'm sorry, to say this,

that will help, that certainly helps,

because they're in that state of apathy,

they're in state of, they're here in the healing state,

they didn't know any better,

they're awake in, if you will,

on the other side, on the other side.

Yeah, that's correct.

That's correct.

On the other side.

And many who are awake over there who wake up

and realize what they've done, they feel bad about it.

There's a little bit of, you know, I'm going to say,

I don't know if I talk to a Catholic,

a purkatory thing, but there's that weighting station

because they got to take care of themselves.

They got to, they got to honor what they did and what they didn't do.

And one of the most interesting things

that the spirit people have said to me,

and they've come through is,

and I wrote a book called Unfinished Business

because I got tired of hearing the spirit say this.

And they would say, wow, if only I knew then what I know now,

I would have made different choices.

I wouldn't have behaved that way.

I would have made more loving, more compassionate,

more kindness.

I would have forgave easier.

I wish I had known that.

So I wrote that book just for that

because it's the world knew that, you know, just imagine

if everybody knew that when they left the physical body

that have a life review and have to feel everything

10 times, 20 times, 30 times stronger,

I had a treated people, wow, wouldn't the world be different

because it'd be a sense of responsibility, you know?

And I think that's the secret.

I think that really is a secret.

In the teaching people, you have to be response

with thoughts or words, new deeds

because they don't go and notice

that's energy you're putting out there.

Well, let me ask you this.

And do you believe in the soul blueprint or soul plan?

Okay, so with that concept,

from my understanding of my research

of people I've spoken to on the show,

you choose your life

and you choose the actions you're going to do in that life.

So a lot of times you're in your soul family,

which is in your group, right?

So let's say you and I are in our soul family

and in this time we're sitting,

we're sitting having coffee on the other side

and we're both talking, we're like,

look, I'm going to go back down,

you want to come with me and yeah, sure.

And like, you know what, in this life,

I really need to know what it feels like

to have someone who doesn't love me.

And then I'll go, you know what, I'll go down,

I'll take the bullet and I'll be your dad

and I won't show you any love.

So on a soul level, we have this kind of prebuilt plan.

So then when they come back and they're saying,

oh, I wish I would have known, it doesn't connect.

Can you kind of explain it?

We're going, we're really going into weeds here.

So I'm just curious what your thoughts are on this.

So also suicide.

So maybe with the exercise,

right?

Well, not necessarily because the soul group might have agreed

upon that, that in that soul group,

one of them had to learn with the experience

of suicide it was and how the rest of the people

around them would handle that.

That happens quite a lot.

So a lot of the experiences we have here,

whether it's physical problems, mental problems,

whatever it is, interaction.

And the biggest, of course, teachers are our family.

Hello, they're number one teachers

because they represent you.

You're looking at yourself.

So there is that sense that we all have destiny points.

I don't call them destiny points.

They were destined to do certain things.

But then comes this part of free will, right?

So it's destined that we have this situation at.

Let's say we meet for coffee on the earth

and we can do many things

that we can be friends forever.

It can just be a quick meeting with a coffee

or we can decide to live together, whatever it might be,

but there's free will involved there.

So again, the more someone knows they're soul-self,

the more they know themselves in itself,

the easier it is to make the right choice.

That's right for them at the moment.

That makes sense.

Makes sense.

Yeah, so the closer you are to your true self

because then you will be connected to that true admission

and even if it doesn't make sense.

It makes sense.

It doesn't make rational sense at all, right?

You become, you become, you become a medium.

You know, it just makes no sense.

When you were like, I mean, I really jumped in

because it's like, I had no way of knowing how to be paid,

how to pay the rent, how to pay my insurance, anything.

But I did it with faith because I knew that it said to me,

we'll take care of you.

And I never knew how it was gonna come about,

but it's come about and they've taken care of me

for 45 years I've been taking care of.

And I think we're all taking care of.

When we do the right thing,

and we take a response of who we are,

and we see God in everyone,

which is that brilliant light.

We all have that same God.

And if we just treated each other,

we see God would be better off.

I think that every day we're given opportunities.

Every day on our path, you have either a teacher

or a student who walks on your path.

And it's a recognized that.

What are you gonna learn or what are you gonna teach?

And that's what it is, you know,

I really do believe that.

And what you give out, you get back.

It's that karma, what everyone will call it,

that energy, that natural law.

And James, I mean, I agree with you 100%

because when I started the show,

I was like, this is insane.

Why am I starting a spiritual show?

I'm not a guru.

I have no street credibility in this space,

but I was guided to do this.

And I jumped in with faith that it would all work out

and it wouldn't destroy what I had already built

because I was afraid.

Because as you know, when you come out

and go public with this kind of stuff

and start talking, it's not the norm yet.

It's more accepted and it's growing daily.

But this is still, you know, people,

you and I having a fairly intelligent, grounded conversation

about this, which is really helpful

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But when you also have Alex, I think that as you said that,

I don't mind getting a hit for you, but I have to.

I think that when you say that the part of your soul self

on the other side knew this and was had to do this

and the physical is now is catching up on it.

And I think that it's meant to be obviously

and that you're here to change a consciousness.

You're open the minds of people up and more and more people.

And whether we want to talk about the world,

the way it is right now, the darkness, the fear,

whatever it is out there, people don't feel connected.

It's work like this that pink pill together

because there's a resonance, the sense of truth.

It opens up, it stirs their souls that this is truth

and it gives them a platform, it gives them a platform to go to

and say, well, I understand this.

This makes more sense to me than other things do.

This is the truth.

I don't know about Instagram and Facebook,

but this is the truth right here.

And that's I think a great thing

to give people that opportunity to have that sense

of up to that faith and have a,

when I started my school, the JP School of Mystical Arts

four years ago, it was a school that I wouldn't leave

as a legacy for my work.

And something happened out of that, which I'd never expected.

And what happened was they became a sense of community,

a lot of community and people thanked me over and over again

for having a space that people can go to

or like-minded people because there aren't many.

So what you're doing, what I'm doing,

many others are presenting that space for those

who think the same way, who can think out of the box,

who believe in faith, whatever that means,

you can't limit God, I think religion,

in the back of that religion, I feel,

in many ways religion limits God and God is limitless.

You get put a name on God, it's limitless.

And I think the more people that knew themselves

would know God better.

So this is always something that's fascinating

to me about mediums and psychics in general is,

we all saw the movie Ghost, you know,

back with Wippie Goldberg.

I did a standing ovation.

I was working a paramount at the time.

And I'd say standing ovation is screening

with a paramount and people looking at me like,

they got it right.

Look at it.

So I mean, it was so perfect and I've had,

I've had Bruce the writer on the show.

And he explained to me, he wrote it in research,

he did a great job.

No, he had a psychedelic experience,

talk to God, came back, wrote Jacob's ladder.

Yeah, I mean, and you watch those movies

and you're just like, okay, everything all makes sense.

So when he wrote Ghost, which nobody wanted,

but eventually God made, Wippie Goldberg's character

that she sees dead people constantly.

I always wondered, do you have an on and off

or open and close sign?

Because if now you're like eating,

you know, you're in the bathroom and you look over,

oh, Jesus, not now.

Like, how does that work?

Do you have like barriers or just like, hey, guys, no?

Or yes, I'm open for this.

It's a great question.

And it's an important question you're asking

because I scream about this from the hip mountain tops

because and God bless Mr. Rubin for doing that movie

because it really has open people up.

So medium should be general to me.

I developed in the old fashioned way

and I developed a seven year sitting in the quiet,

sitting in the stillness and I wouldn't do one reading

because I had to work on my, my energetic self,

my soul self to really develop that,

that progression of development in order to be able

to give a message to someone because it's very much like,

to me, like medical worker, a doctor or a lawyer,

you know, people's lives that you're responsible for.

And that can be taken easily.

That's not a no joke.

You've got to be really a lot of integrity.

And to me, I've been very worked very, very hard

throughout my, well, that were hard hard

but my integrity is really strong

in that I would not present something

if it wasn't the right way it was.

And if I didn't know something, I said,

I don't know it, you know, just because I told deadbuilders,

I don't know everything.

So to me, I tried presenting mediumship

and with my TV show, The Beyond Show I Had.

And John Edward did a good job with his show Crossing Over.

And it was presented a certain way, which I like.

But then what happens is younger people

that come into mediumship want to be stars.

They want to be fast and furious.

They want to get it in the TV and be a star.

It's like, it doesn't work that way.

You don't, you don't go in the mediumship to be a star.

It doesn't happen that way.

And think of all those people's lives

that you're hurting by doing it the wrong way.

And when I say the wrong way, like for instance,

there was a lady in the Atreusa Caputo

who had the Long Island medium.

You remember that, your Long Island medium?

And she was a lady who, nice lady, I met her once,

very gifted lady.

But the producers who produced that show

did not know how to produce it correctly.

They did not know about mediumship.

I was the same thing with show Ghost Whisperers involved.

And I had a lot of trouble with the producers

who didn't know at all how to produce this sort of thing.

And the way that there's no sense of responsibility

of what you're putting in the airwaves.

So they have Atreusa Caputo out there

in a bake shop, in a butcher shop, in a car.

And she says, dead people, oh my God, this person says,

oh my God, it doesn't work that way.

It doesn't work that way because that person

ended up in the nut house.

Because that's why I asked.

Yeah.

And they're teaching that they're throwing

that to the public thing.

This is the way it is.

No, it doesn't work that way.

As a medium, as I said before, it's a sacred space.

You have to prepare yourself.

And when you're ready to work,

there's that's, if you will, an on-off switch, as you said,

you're able to open yourself up and you say what you get.

It's not like, pop, here goes this one.

Pop goes to Weasel, here goes this way.

It doesn't work that way.

The medium may be aware of those people around.

But certainly, it's like a ceiling fan.

You can't have that ceiling fan on all the time

because you'll burn out the motor.

Same thing with mediumship.

You've got to be very, very careful.

It's a delicate art because you work

with your dreamless system and the glandular system.

And that will nervous system.

Yeah, it'll tax it very, very easily.

You'll be taxed out.

I've seen many medium pass away with cancers

and bad diseases and endocrine problems

because they're not integrated the right way.

They're not measured, the work is not measured.

It needs to be measured, it needs to be a process.

There's another guy on TV,

the young kid that's on right now talking to me.

He's again, again, we're throwing this stuff out there.

Now, he might have a ability.

Certainly, it's some kind of ability.

It's not worked out because he goes for a psychic point

of view and a medium point of view.

And he doesn't know what he's doing.

He doesn't know what psychic or what's medium.

He doesn't know the difference between the two.

And they throw that up so the public doesn't know any better.

And it's like, that's gonna harm people.

It's gonna harm him because he's a young boy.

He's 24.

He's had no life experience

in order for the spirit world to draw from

in order to give a message out.

And it's showing the public that this is the way it is.

That's not the way it works.

And it has to be a really tough one, you know?

Yeah, and in that show, too,

you could see where he wears out.

You could actually, I've seen some of his episodes.

You start seeing him as like, I can't.

I need this.

He's having problems with it

because he hasn't dropped properly, been drained.

He doesn't know that it's called running your energy.

He doesn't know how to run his energy properly

because we're talking about a chakra point.

So we're talking about opening up those,

or all the electrical beings.

And if you don't charge it the right way,

you're gonna be depleted quickly.

And I'm telling you, as it is,

and you have all the pressure from television

and producers, all that kind of stuff,

who don't understand the word at all.

Listen, I did a show called The Beyond Show

for a whole year and it was like a kind of talk show.

I'd go on, I'd do it readings for the audience

and do a private reading on stage.

I remember the people that produced that with me.

That's when they carried Sagan her name was.

And I gave her a reading before we went to the pilot,

just so she would know what the process was.

And I brought through a girl,

I said, this little baby girl,

she said, 20 of you are as I'd die.

She goes, yes, that's right.

And it was very good reading

because I wanted to give her the awareness

of the education of it.

And then during the show,

I'm going a message for a lady on stage

that she'd lost her, someone very important.

And the producer was so fearful of,

is it gonna get a hit?

Is it gonna get a hit?

So instead of having just the bride die,

we have the whole, the grooms,

the whole wedding party dies.

It'd be like crazy.

So the way they think,

so I'm working with this lady on stage.

At the corner of my eye,

I see an associate producer in the wings

and she's holding up a sock,

and I said, make her cry.

And I said, stop tape right now.

Never leaves that hurtful to the audience members

and the lady getting the message.

But that is completely wrong space.

So I literally went up to the booth

and I yelled at the producer,

I said, you cannot do it.

Don't ever insult us like that.

They never insult the spirit road like that.

And then another thing that happened was,

I never get this.

I did many shows a day, I did a 15 shows,

whatever it was, we doubled booked stuff.

And I worked my rear end off.

And I remember there was a series of murders.

And I don't know what's gonna happen.

I set for myself in a different building,

which I shouldn't have, but I did.

And there were all these murder stories.

And it was depleting.

And it probably the sixth murder.

And I said, I will not do this again this week.

I've done murders.

Murder is a heavy duty.

You can make it happen.

Oh, the energy, energy.

I energy, heavy.

So I said, I won't do that.

And she was a catcher last one.

It's your last one.

And I said, well, I won't do this tomorrow.

No way.

So because I had to protect the vessel.

I had to protect it.

So the next morning I come in 830,

there's a script there that says, a murderer, Josh,

well, and I'm like, I threw it back out to the person

that I'm not doing this.

And she'll, oh, just one.

I said, no.

And I literally, Alex, I'd have to go to this point

of a young, and I, who wants to do this?

I had to literally lock my door

and not come out of my dressing room

until they changed this door.

Like a, like a temperamental actor.

Yes, and I'm not that way.

But that's the level I have to go to for them to understand.

That's not appropriate.

And this had the studio came, my agents came,

manager came.

I was like, you have to understand the sensitivity,

the nature, the sensitivity of this work.

And if you don't, that's not my problem.

That's your problem.

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You know what is so interesting too,

because I come from that world.

Very, very much so.

I've been for 30 years.

Oh, I understand it's such a deep level.

You have no idea James because you're absolutely right.

In many ways, and this happens with young actors,

this happens with stars who just blow up all of a sudden.

It almost is like, and please forgive me for using this word.

Let's bring out the freak and let's try to use and milk this

as much as we can while the good is going.

That's Hollywood.

Best Hollywood since the days of Chaplain.

It's always been that way.

And sometimes you get, you know, a good team

that makes it go, but many times you get the like,

the more elaborate kind of reality show kind of like,

let's make them cry.

That kind of aspect of things.

And I hope that this show,

I really try to bring more of a human face to this kind of work

and also channels, which channels on a whole other level

because they get, they, especially trans channels

turn into other people and the voices change

and all the talk about like, ooh, let's see what the quote

unquote, I get what the freak does.

Let's put the camera on them and let's make money.

How can we make money with this?

It's not that.

You have to respect what you, what we're all doing in this space.

And I do believe, and I think, and I love to hear your thoughts

from where you started in the 80s to where we are now.

I believe things have changed a bit in regards to the space,

the respect of this art and what we're doing.

Would you agree?

Yeah, yes, and you said it correctly, it's an art.

It really is an art and it has to be looked at that way.

It's not an entertainment, it's an art.

Now, if you have personality like me and personality

that they can do that and bring out the art,

but also bring the fun of it, that that's great.

But it, it's an art and it's got to be respected

and it's a sensitive art.

You know, I did a, there was a movie of my life

with Ted Danson played me and based my first one talking to heaven.

Yeah, I don't know if you do that.

I didn't know that.

When did it get to you?

Yeah, I was like a TV TV movie with it.

I have a lot background.

Yeah, I'll tell you about it.

It's a fun story.

And it shows you how the spirit world is also intervenes

and how every day they intervene in our path.

Well, the book did so well that CBS

bought the book to do a movie.

It was movie The Week Time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So NBC had it, they dropped it down

and development and CBS bought it.

And I met with, and a long story,

but what I heard was, this is why it worked out.

I got a call from the man who was writing the movie

talking to heaven.

It was such a great way they want to do a mini series.

So they want to do mini series, Nina tests.

They want to do a mini series in Les Moves.

Okay.

So Mary steam version was on a plane.

And she said to me, I never talked to people on a plane.

So there was this man sitting, writing a script

and she's sitting next to him.

And she heard her father say, you have to talk to him.

You have to talk to him.

So she asked the guy, she goes, what are you writing?

He goes, oh, I'm funny.

You're sitting here.

I'm just thinking of you for a part in this.

It's talking to heaven based on James Van Progg's book.

And she goes, oh, that's my favorite book.

I have to give it to all my friends, blah, blah, blah.

And he goes, oh, yeah, I'm writing this

in this mini series here.

And she goes, can you get me in touch with you off there?

And she goes, yeah, I'll probably be able to.

So I met with Mary.

I needed a reading, which I rarely do.

But I felt the had to do this.

It was important.

I don't know why I felt the way it did.

So I said, yes, Mary, I'll be glad to do a reading with you.

And went to her house in Brentwood.

And we had her and Ted and the friends of theirs.

And we're also around.

I'm like, okay, so I do this thing was really good night.

Spirit was right there.

And Ted's father came through.

And Ted is sitting on a little, like ottoman.

And his father said, Ted, I'm here.

I'm going to have my whiskey in my Herringbone jacket.

And he said, and he said, you know, I'm in heaven.

If I'm having my whiskey in my Herringbone jacket.

And Ted Danson looks at me.

And he starts crying.

And he falls down on the floor.

I'm like, oh, no, what did I do with Ted Danson?

Oh, God.

Did I break Ted Danson?

Oh, Jesus, I break Ted Danson.

Oh, Jesus.

So it was so funny.

Because afterwards, we're hanging out.

And it was just a great night.

And he goes, and he didn't believe in any of it until then.

And he said, that was just so weird every night.

Every time my father come home from work, every day,

he put on his Herringbone jacket

and had the whiskey in front of the fireplace.

And that's how we die, James.

He said, wow, that's incredible, Ted.

The next day, I get a phone call from the production company.

And they said, listen, we don't know if we're

going to do the movie.

I said, why?

Well, no one wants to play a medium.

Gary Senees turned it down.

And someone else turned it down.

And Les Munevez, CBS, said he's only one more person

he could try.

Because he has a contract with this guy who does Becker,

Ted Danson.

I said, Ted Danson, how was it?

How was last night?

Wait a minute.

Well, can you ask him?

I said, no, I can't ask him.

I can't cross that line.

That's not appropriate.

I cannot do that.

And so it was that weird.

I was so weird.

So then what happened was his manager called me.

Ted's manager called me.

He said, can you meet with me regarding the fix?

The CBS is calling, so sure.

So we met and Ted agreed to do it.

Because based upon that reading, there's

father came through.

And the mini-series happened with Queen Latifah

was in it, Diane Ladd, these people,

Jack Pound's played my father.

And it was just so weird.

And it was the number one mini-series of CBS history,

except for Jesus.

And because of that mini-series,

and you can still download now, and it's like whatever,

it then opened up to, they wanted to do more with me.

So we did another movie with a lady by the name of who's

just starting out, and Eva Longoria, you've heard of her, right?

She's on the show.

OK, so she wasn't going to be in New Orleans.

We're doing this mini-series.

She said, came up to me during the break.

She was, Mr. Van Prog, can I ask her question?

I said, sure.

She goes, I just finished a pilot, and I was wondering

if it's going to do anything.

And I said, what's the name?

She goes, it's called Delft's Housewives.

It's why it's going to change your life.

It's going to change your life.

You'll see.

Well, years later, if we know the history of that,

then the mini-series in the movie did so well with Anne

H. and Evelyn Groyd, and that was for Eva's Eve.

It was Anne H. to the star.

And it went so well that they want to do a series.

Not that we wanted to do a series.

So he asked me to develop a series,

and it developed a Ghost Whisper with Jennifer.

I love you, it.

And it really, really well.

And then well, yeah.

And then a universal cafeteria, right?

An opposite universal.

And I also see Eva coming over.

And her eyes met at the same time.

I went, I just went, ah!

And I went over and I said, did a change your life?

And she goes, oh, my God.

And so, yeah.

Wow.

One of those stories that have the interweaving

of all those things that the spirit world,

you know, they're in our lives and how they work

really hard behind the scenes to make things happen.

Well, you know what's funny, too,

because it's something that I've said on the show so much

is when you learn how to let go of this false idea

that you could control everything, right?

When you let go, things start to happen.

It's kind of like a door start to open

that we're closed before.

And that's such a, people don't understand

when they hear let go.

I'm like, I can't let go.

I have to still,

like I didn't they say stop,

just sit down and wait for the door to knock.

Get up and, you know, I always say,

cut the wood, carry the water.

But don't connect where that would cross.

We need the wood.

Yeah, there's that, too.

But I always say that don't, don't expect

where this is all gonna go.

Just do the work.

And if you're going on the right path,

the words will start to open.

And the Buddhist have a great saying

that I love to use every day.

It is, you can't push the river.

You just gotta flow.

You can't push the river, you gotta let it flow.

And it's very, very true.

Because when you open that space up,

you allow the energy to flow.

And it's all about letting the energy flow.

So I do a lot of work with people.

We do what we call scanning.

And we scan the body, energy at the body.

And we'll scan the body.

There'll be certain, let's say the emotional body.

There's some, I call it staining.

And we'll say, oh, you have staining there.

Oh, yes, I went through a divorce.

Well, it's still there.

And it's blocking the rest of the energy flow.

And we had that every day.

And I think it's really important

that through meditation, through self-awareness,

that you open up those channels every day.

Because a lot of us, Alex,

I don't know what your thoughts about this.

We take on energy from other people.

I think we,

especially being sensitives and beings here.

This is energetic beings.

And I think, and I'd like to hear your point of view on this

because I just thought about this two weeks ago,

that we take on a through this energy.

And many times, do we keep the energy there in our space?

We tend to look at life

or make choices based upon that person's energy

because we're looking through rose-colored glasses.

Does that make sense to you that we're not,

it does make sense to me because I have a family,

which is all women.

My family, I have no boys,

I have no testosterone in the house at all.

And as being the only male in the house,

a lot of times there's some drama

in the female side of the vet.

Not with me,

just because they're young girls in there.

So a lot of times,

I will pick up on that energy.

And then I will notice myself change.

And I would be like,

and I start getting a little angrier

or I get a little bit more perturbed

or my patient's threshold drops dramatically.

And the only way,

only in the way that family does.

Great to see you.

The greatest teachers.

So I do notice that,

but everybody I think can agree that

when you walk into a room sometimes,

you will go, what happened just here?

If there was a fight before and now it's quiet,

you walk in and go,

there's something in the air.

You all can feel it or you meet somebody

and you want to like take a shower afterwards.

Like you just met a car salesman.

Sorry, car salesman.

Or a sales guy,

I'm sorry, and you're just like,

oh, I just,

oh, I feel icky just being around this person.

That's an energy thing.

That's an energy thing.

So absolutely.

And a lot of times that energy will stick with you.

I'm not sure if one of the one off with the salespeople

or salesperson is an icky salesperson,

but people that are close to you,

absolutely,

your mother comes to visit,

your father comes to visit,

your brother comes to visit and you have issues

or you have history

or they say that word that just sets you off

because of all that history,

that sticks with you.

And you can't make clear decisions

when you're in that state.

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Right.

So I think it's really important.

And the way I look at it,

it's many times it's program.

So because broadcast is much free,

that program is sending programs.

And we pick up those programs and we see them.

And then we can realize whose program it is

and let it go, or we don't recognize it

and we make it our own, say.

And part of it, we get stuck there

because we make their problems, our problems,

their energies, our energy.

And it's their program, not our program, but we make it ours.

So we have to be able to translate and find out

whose program is this?

Why am I feeling this way?

What just happened that I'm sensing this?

Am I pulling, am I holding on to this energy

or can I let it go?

And with media of shit,

what I do with the work I do is many times

I will pick up the energy of that person's

how they pass away.

The grief that they have from the spirit world,

I should have what it could have.

And it's so amazing because then when you,

and you're working with someone who's in the living state

and they hear their loved one,

their orc field opens up and expands.

And then there was something that was deep dark down

and dense opens up and expands

and you see a beautiful light,

you feel beautiful energy

and they feel so much better.

And the spirit feels so much better.

So and it's just a matter of love.

So love is that love is the best way for us

to let go of other people's energy from our space.

And to really open up our own self as love of self,

being aware of self,

but love is the ingredient that brings all things together.

And you and I both have studied yoga nanda

and studied the yogis in India.

And you hear these stories that there's nothing

that really moves them in the sense of energy like that

because they are so connected to the inner place.

That thing that we were talking about earlier,

they're so connected to it

and that one, I think the Maharishi,

they gave them some psychedelics.

He ate like a pot and didn't, nothing.

He just laughed after he ate it

because he literally had so well controlled

of his physical state and spiritual state

that didn't bother him.

So those energies don't,

they kind of just bounce off

or they don't even connect with them

because they are a deep understanding of who they are

at a whole other level that you and I are not at this point.

But does that make sense to you?

Completely, completely.

And it's the emotional charge that,

and it's that holding onto a charge,

waiting for the outcome.

What's with the outcome?

And there is no outcome.

Everything should be neutralized.

I think a good point, Alex,

and I've helped a lot of people with this.

It's helped me as well is you become the observer.

You step back and you observe everything.

It's almost like you're sitting in an audience

watching a theatrical show.

And you see the show play on stage

but you don't get involved in it.

But you're aware of what's who the characters are

and what's going on.

But even life, you can be objective,

be observant, be an observer of life.

Don't be so involved when you don't have to be.

Only when you're meant to.

But just observing really helps a lot.

Really helps a lot.

Same thing happened to me, but when Psychedelics,

I was given them nothing happened.

That was given some of those that Hyahuasca years ago.

And I had experienced people leaving the room

when they were throwing up and having, you know,

diarrhea and all this, like, what's going on here?

I didn't feel any of that.

And I just had an awareness,

like an awareness of my guide or my higher self.

And it was just, it was a chronic validation

of what I already knew.

It was nice, but I don't need it.

I don't need it.

Exactly.

And if I can quote you over now and down this,

he's like, so many times we get caught up in the,

if we're in a movie theater,

we get caught up with what's on the screen,

which is what you're saying, be an observer.

But we get caught up in the people dying,

in people yelling, in the wars, in the anger.

And you get caught up in the drama.

That's what you need to stop.

Look back and turn around.

And your goal should not be to look at the screen,

but to find out where the light is coming from.

Oh, that's great.

The projector, to look back at the projector,

I was like, oh, that's so, that's so wonderful.

It's so, it's so wonderful.

The reminds me of an experience I had

with a good, good friend of mine who passed over.

Her name was Olivia, and she was a British lady.

A little older than I was.

We used to go to spiritual healing circles for years,

30, 40 years.

She's a mediums and do a whole bunch of different things.

And we made a pack that whoever goes over first

comes back right away and tells the other one

what it's going to be like.

So I'm driving, I'm in Sydney, just California.

And I'm driving down the street.

And I see her face on my windshield.

Like, Olivia, are you dead?

And she said, I'm not the dead when you are.

I'm like, what?

I love that calm.

And her daughter sent me an email, said it from Australia.

And she said, my mother passed away at 12.02.

And I said, oh, I know very well.

And then I asked Olivia, says, show me.

And she took my mind into a space, into a cinema

like you're talking about.

And Olivia said, it was very weird, James.

It was very strange.

I walked into the cinema, and I'm walking in.

And all these people are sitting, watching the screen.

And she showed them.

And she was, they're all looking up at the screen.

And I was like, oh, I go into the screen,

and suddenly all these beautiful flowers are there,

and these colors.

And people that I haven't seen in many, many years,

or I just smiled at once, came to greet me,

to receive me.

It was the most beautiful thing that was so alive.

And I look back at the people in the seats,

watching the screen, and they were the dead ones.

And she just talked about that.

And she said, it was beyond her belief.

And she's been into this work for a long time,

beyond her belief.

And she said, it's the little thing

you do in life that matter the most.

And she goes, those people, those kind people,

I give a kind word.

I open the door.

I smiled at someone.

They're the ones that came to greet me, to thank me,

to welcome me.

So that was very important.

It's beautiful.

That is so beautiful.

I mean, you never know what your one thought,

your one word, the any interaction you have with people,

it'll make a difference.

Every day, I did my best, and I remember

I'm interacting with the public.

I'll put a smile in someone's face.

And that's just because energetically, I'd like to change that.

So I've got a Starbucks, and someone's like having a heart

saying, I love that green apron you're wearing.

No, I can wear it like you.

And I just let them stop and give them a moment of cheer.

And if it changes their whole day, you know?

Oh, exactly.

Exactly, a nice little comment, a nice little saying,

just as the same way as like you say,

because something negative, you could easily say something

positive, exactly.

And if you have fear of love, it's what the negativity is

fear and love is positive.

So James, I'd love to talk to you a little bit,

because we've kind of dabbled a little bit

about what happens on the other side.

We've had a lot of near-death experiences on.

I have a general idea from how to near-death experience, too.

So I would love to hear about this near-death experience.

But from my understanding between the work I've

do, I have a somewhat of an understanding.

It changes, but the general, there's

big mile markers, life review, these kind of things.

I'd love to hear your near-death experience

if you don't mind me sharing.

And then from your experience, what

does truly happen on the other side?

Well, my experience was, and I was doing

meetings for quite a while, and this happened,

but I remember I was drinking in LA after a show,

and I went to my friend Victoria.

And I think maybe that was I'm not sure,

but we had one glass of one bottle of wine.

That was really it.

It wasn't a lot.

But somehow, I started bleeding.

As soft as my esophagus, it was bleeding, I guess.

And I was throwing up.

And I came back, so I lived in Laguna Beach

at the time, and it came from LA down to Laguna,

and every exit in the freeway to go off and throw up.

I feel good for like, oh, good 15 minutes

then I had to go again.

And so I got home in Laguna Beach,

and I called up my partner at the time,

and I said, I'm really sick.

I don't know what's going on.

He said, well, just wait, you know, tonight

I'll come by, it's OK.

I, again, every half hour to go.

So that night came over, and everything was fine.

And he said, oh, here it comes again,

and I went to the bathroom, and I, and I

blacked out my head to the counter,

and I fell on the floor, and I pulled her,

I popped her out of the body, and I'm looking down

in my body, and I'm like, OK, what's this about?

Like, OK, I know it's on my time.

I know it's immediately outside of linear time,

but I knew that this was not my time to go.

I just knew that.

And I said, what's happening here?

And all of a sudden, my cousin Patricia came in front of me,

and my cousin Patricia completed suicide,

and she was 48, and she taught me metaphysics when I was a child,

right?

And I hadn't seen her since.

And I said, Pat, Pat, is it,

oh, she goes, it's going to be over, don't worry.

I said, you mean over, over, or over, please let me know,

because I need some help here.

And also, and she disappeared.

And I am, me to become aware of everybody

having this, if you will, this sense of a cord

coming out of the top of their heads.

So the cord was, yes, this cord, and it

wanted to tapestry, matrix tapestry, wouldn't we call it?

And I knew that the thoughts that we had

created this color by the structure, and into this ribbon.

And this ribbon then bled into that tapestry,

and I was like, oh, my thoughts create

in that tapestry, the beauty or the ugliness in that tapestry.

And I was like, oh, wow, and we all have that cord,

that ribbon that bleeds in there.

And at the life review, we look and see what we did

with that tapestry to make it more beautiful or do we not.

And then I really had that insight.

And then it then was into a garden.

And my father was there.

And he was wearing a brown suit.

And he came to me and said, come here.

He gave me a white rose.

He goes, it's not your time.

You got to go back.

And I said, OK, and I was like, I feel right back into the body.

And my head hurt.

And my partner, Brian, at the time was like, James, wake up.

Wake up.

And the first words out of my mouth were, dying is easy,

living as hard.

And now why did I have the experience?