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We are going to Alabama this week.

Oh, yeah.

Fuck.

We're going to Gadsden, Alabama.

G-A-D-S-D-E-N.

Gadsden.

Just like the purchase.

Just like it.

Northeastern Alabama.

This is in middle of nowhere.

Let's just say this is some interesting people in this episode this week.

It's about an hour and a half to Huntsville.

And about an hour to Talladega, Alabama.

Our last Alabama episode, episode 627, The Art of Murder, which is a wild episode.

They're always crazy down in Alabama.

This is Itoa County, Edawa County, E-T-O-W-A-H.

Hmm.

Now, I can see how it might be said, but also in Northern Alabama, it might be said completely differently.

So you never know.

All bets are off.

Yeah, it could be.

We don't know.

We don't know.

Area code here.

256 and 938.

Can't hold these people with one area code.

Population of this town has grown decently here.

Really?

34,317.

Yeah, that's a wise.

It's a decent sized town.

Median household income here is about half of the rest of the country.

That's not good.

35,776 dollars is the household income median there.

And then the median home cost, though, is also...

This is like the 40s or something.

$84,100.

That's...

Wow.

You're buying a house in 1983 is what it's like.

You got half a million dollars.

You're a king.

You could live forever.

Yeah.

A little bit of history of this town.

The town originated around 1825.

It was originally called Double Springs.

Sure.

It was founded by a guy named John Riley near the natural springs on the Coozer River.

And it was incorporated in 1871.

So it took about 50 years to come around a file and paperwork here.

Right.

And it was renamed after Colonel James Gadsden, who was noted for the 1853 purchase.

There you go.

That's exactly why.

In the 1800s, it became Alabama's second most important commercial and industrial center

after mobile, of course, because that's the point.

Okay.

Yeah.

So they had a lot of heavy industry and stuff like that going on here.

They actually had the most people they've ever had in 1960 when they had a lot of industry here.

They had 58,000 people there then.

What was the industry?

All sorts of shit.

Things for steel, tires for good year.

They had all sorts of stuff down here.

Yeah.

Reviews of this town.

Sure.

Yeah.

That too, I'm sure.

That's what the belts were in tires back then.

It was cotton belts.

Yeah.

I mean, they had also like coal and iron where they had like factories and stuff too.

But when good year's there, it's because of the cotton.

I assure you.

Yeah.

Reviews of this town.

It's not getting close to my mind.

Here's five stars.

Yeah.

Born in Gadsden, moved away after high school, lived in Wichita, Atlanta, and Tampa.

Kids born in Tampa.

Move back to raise my kids.

Best decision ever made.

New mayor is changing Gadsden to draw more people.

The river in Gadsden better than anywhere.

This, that was a fun little journey.

That was wild.

This is a whole life story where his kids are born.

And the best life journal ever.

Yeah.

Love Gadsden.

That's the end.

Three stars.

I like the fact that everything is in driving distance.

Yeah.

Some people are friendly.

Well, where were your kids born?

Yeah.

That's where were you born?

Have you lived in Wichita?

That's what I'd like to know.

Have you seen Atlanta?

Have you seen it?

I wish that we could become a better place to live instead of becoming a retirement town.

Well, there's also a river, man.

Have you heard?

It's the best.

There is.

And finally, one star.

This is a good one here.

Long.

They really lay it out for you.

One star, Gadsden, is a terrible city to live.

Do not move here, all caps.

The jobs doesn't pay much of nothing.

Now unpack that.

Doesn't pay much of nothing.

So that means they pay a lot, I think.

The jobs doesn't.

The jobs doesn't.

Well, I'm shit the English, never mind.

I'm trying to figure out, do they mean the jobs?

Because that's a double negative.

Yeah.

Do they?

That means they pay a lot.

They doesn't pay much of nothing.

So that means they pay a whole bunch of nothing.

Yeah.

What?

I'm confused.

And that's the second sentence.

That's crazy.

If you're not in the Gadsden click, spelled CLICK.

Or know someone really good, you can't and won't prosper

in your job position.

The houses are ran down, old and antique.

They're ran down.

Wait, or antique?

That's valuable, isn't it?

I guess not here.

Isn't it not excited about this?

And the rent is outrageous for these old homes and apartments.

I don't understand how they even pass inspections.

All the city do is gouge money.

All the city do.

The city looks ran down and trashy through the neighborhoods,

but they always want to advertise downtown the boat dock

and the Naka Lula Falls to make people think it's nice here.

Drive through the neighborhoods, abandoned buildings and houses

everywhere, trees that storms have blown down

are still laying all over the city, shaken my head.

Trash everywhere as if they have no city workers working.

The city of Gadsden has been pulling in so much money

for years, all caps, from everyone that lives here,

but we have nothing to show for it.

My advice is to bypass this dump.

Jesus, angry.

Start to get in better and won't much more.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It seems like somebody jumped in on him.

Someone was like, I don't know what I'm talking about.

They're like, well, I'll type it for you.

What are you trying to say?

I'm spelling and grammar started to warm up there at the end.

They found an English translator at the end there

to help them out of that.

I've got to let it cook.

Wow.

It's got a simmer for a little while before you can do anything.

Things to do here, the spring lantern festival,

which looks boring as shit.

It's not about people lighten like Japanese lanterns.

That's what it is.

They're already lit and you just look at them.

It sounds dull as shit.

Yeah.

Wander among the glowing Chinese lanterns.

Each handcrafted and illuminated with vibrant LEDs.

Oh, that's not it.

No, live performances, too.

It looks like the point of a Japanese lantern is that it floats.

Yeah.

No, this is Chinese.

They're not as jovial as lanterns or a little more.

They're a little angrier and not as a little more set on task.

Yeah.

Not as fun.

Yeah.

More than just lights.

It's a journey through Chinese legends and craftsmanship.

And it looks boring.

And there's also Pitt at the Pittman Music Festival.

Now we're talking.

Pitt at the Pittman.

Pitt at the Pittman Music Festival with bands such as heavy handed devil in the oasis.

Not even close.

Hopes on hold.

Reclaim the empire with a Y idol threat.

Before there was Rosalind.

I don't know who was there first.

Is that one that I know?

I don't know.

I know minor threat.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I know that one.

I don't know much about idol threat.

That's a different.

I like that they named their band not even close because they know not even close.

Yeah.

We're not going to get it.

Stay lost.

There's a bunch of different bands here.

Who knows?

It's at the Pittman Theater there.

And there's also the Gadsden Southern Soul Fest as well.

Oh boy.

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That said, let's talk about some murder because let's do.

Wow.

We have a wild story.

Okay.

Let's talk about a lady first here.

Rebecca Ledbetter Holiday.

Let's talk about her.

We're going to start in 1986 and work around that.

Okay.

1986.

Rebecca Ledbetter Holiday H-L-L-L-L-L-A-D-A-Y.

Holiday.

Yeah.

Yeah.

31 years old, she is at this time.

And her parents are Lester and Barbara Ann.

She goes by Bobby, Phillips, and her mom.

She's got a sister named Katrina.

We'll come up in the story.

Sure.

She has in 1986 a 12-year-old son named Shea Ledbetter.

Okay.

So that's her little world at this point.

She's recently divorced.

Oh.

Very recently, like in the last couple of months right here.

Recently divorced from a man named Glenn William Holiday.

Yeah.

There's the holiday.

He's 37, so a few years older than her.

And he's an interesting cat.

Let's just say that.

He's got some past to him.

His family that he comes from is dog shit.

Just, I mean, the whole thing.

His mother drank heavily while pregnant with all of her children, including Glenn.

Nice.

Very nice.

And Glenn, as we can tell, I don't know if the drinking while pregnant is what did it,

or the beatings that he took from his father, but he's got some cognitive issues.

Those couple are real nice.

Yeah.

Well, they do.

Yeah.

Oh, he's an abused woman.

Who would stay right there?

Yeah.

She's a hardcore alcoholic.

Yeah.

His father even admitted later that he physically and verbally abused the entire family throughout

all the children's childhood, just completely abused everybody and the mother for that matter.

They said later on in a court ruling, this is from their assessment that his childhood

was replete with alleged reports of Mr. Holiday beating the children.

Glenn's mother told state workers that Glenn was quote, her slow child or her quote retarded

child.

That was what she called him.

He was the worst of the brilliance in this group.

The slow one is him.

Yeah.

And she drank with all her kids and he failed first grade, which a lot of kids they hold

them back if it's so sure.

He's not working with them.

Yeah.

But then he failed second grade.

Oh, no.

That's not good.

Strike two.

He's not doing well at nine because he was so not caught up to the rest of the kids.

And only in third grade.

Yeah.

Well, yeah.

I should have been.

I think he was only in second grade.

Nine is like fourth grade, usually.

I think he failed to.

Yeah.

They gave him an IQ test and he scored a 49, which is that's real low.

That is great for a one game point total in basketball.

Yeah.

If you're a shooting guard, scored 49 points, you're doing great.

But if they scored 49 on his IQ test, it's not good.

They gave it to him again 20 days later just to see if maybe he was having a bad day and

he got a 56.

Oh.

And banana that more improvement.

Yeah.

He had breakfast.

But that is still not too great here.

Oh boy.

The school principal at the time was quoted to state workers as saying, and this is

all medical and whatever how they're doing it.

So don't break my balls that he was quote, definitely mentally retarded.

He said, definitely.

Definitely.

Yeah.

Definitely.

Like I, I'm a school principal.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I know which, which kids are, are what?

And he's like, this one is.

We thought he was.

Now we've confirmed it.

And this is, this is what it is.

Well, it's well below 70, the IQ is what they're looking at.

So he met all the criteria for special education, but they had, they were all full up on special

ed.

So imagine they couldn't put them in.

That's what it's like now because if there's been a lot of cuts to things like that.

So it's not good, not good at all.

So yeah.

But that's what we were doing back then.

Age 14, he gave him another IQ test is, yeah, usually gets better as you get older.

And he got a 54.

He got worse.

He got worse.

That's not good.

That's not good.

Cut worse.

And a report from the state in 1963 noted his IQ of 54 and described him as quote, barely

educatable.

Educable.

It won't even stick.

Even if we tell him he doesn't, he's not getting it at all.

He quit school at 16 because, you know, what grade he was in when he was 16?

Fifth.

The sixth grade.

I know you were joking, but sixth grade at 16.

How you driving to sixth grade, man?

You're 11 in the sixth grade, like just to have him around those other kids is dangerous

at that.

That's amazing.

Yeah, he could hurt somebody.

He can't read.

He can't write.

He'll never learn to read or write completely illiterate.

But he figured out how to get married.

He has three wives.

There's a, it's what I mean.

He's crafty this guy.

In 1986 here, by the way, being illiterate wasn't that strange.

13% of US adults were illiterate in 1986, which is too many.

It's more than one in 10 is illiterate.

That's a lot.

Yeah.

Now, as a social life, he, as a teenager, he hung around either by himself or with much

younger kids, which makes sense because he was in their class.

Yeah.

You can't, the high school kids don't want to hang out with a kid their age was in sixth

grade.

You don't want to hang out with that kid in high school.

We did the botanical gardens together.

That's why we do this.

Go on field trips.

He loves chucky cheese.

I mean, what do you expect?

He has a poor vocabulary.

He has trouble following conversations and keeping up and has trouble keeping jobs.

Yet somehow women, he has no problem getting to marry him.

I don't understand this.

Wow.

It's wild.

It's crazy.

He couldn't, this is his work history, okay?

Try to go start working.

He couldn't operate a ladder.

That's just one foot.

There's enough.

Right?

No.

Like one that opens.

Oh, he couldn't extend it.

He couldn't like do work.

Whatever things you need to do with a ladder.

He couldn't do.

He couldn't open it.

Couldn't figure it out.

He would set it up upside down all the time.

Oh, what?

He can't.

No.

That's not okay.

Can't do that.

Look, it's a V.

No, the other.

How do you say you can't?

How do you, that ladder, you, it's got to be that, right?

He would turn it upside down the ladder like.

The feet up.

It had the extended.

Yeah.

So that's not good.

It's, that's bad.

Yeah.

The V ladder, obviously.

I think even he could figure out that wasn't right.

If you put it upside, he's like,

obviously.

The other one has the, has the feet.

So he didn't, he kept putting the feet up at the top.

Up at the top.

Yeah.

Couldn't figure that out.

His father ran a painting business and Glenn couldn't tell the difference between

a scraper and a screwdriver.

He'd bring the wrong thing.

We're both flat.

He'd bring the Phillips head.

That's the scary part.

Yeah.

That's, that's the part that really is frightening.

That's, how do you, yeah, he'd get, how do you survive like that?

It's hard.

He'd get frustrated.

He couldn't understand directions.

And sometimes if you get frustrated and job, he'd just run away.

He'd just run away.

And that was that.

He'd never come back.

No job moving.

It's, go ahead.

Go ahead.

Go ahead James.

It's crazy.

He worked at a, before his gump was like way smarter than him by the way.

That's the scary part.

Like he would look at before his gump and wide eyed admiration of his intellect,

of his mammoth intellect.

He worked at a tire store at Kelly's tire, but he couldn't operate the machines.

No.

Couldn't figure it out.

Those are complicated.

I would think.

So he was relegated to just manual labor and cleaning and doing that.

He never figured out how to open a bank account or do anything of that nature.

By the eighties though, he's like six, two, six, three, and strong as a fucking ox.

He can bench press later on 400 pounds.

He's like, you oh my god, strong.

He's Lenny.

This is, this is Lenny right here.

Yeah, it doesn't take any brain power to put it up.

No, no, not at all.

As we can see, look at, you know, the NFL and all sorts of sports.

There's lots of jacked idiots running around.

Yeah.

And every gym in America, the Paul brothers are pretty jacked, you know what I'm saying?

They're morons.

There's a bunch of idiots in this country.

Absolutely.

So he would be given over his lifetime 11 IQ tests.

And he ends up basically with a score of about 64 is what they figure out.

Stop taking a man.

They're not doing better.

He scored, he never took a test and scored above 70, which is the threshold for intellectual

disability, basically.

He could drive a car.

That's one thing he could do.

Problem is he could drive it, but he got lost really easy.

He didn't like going off the interstate because he'd get lost immediately and had no idea

where he was.

He would pick up hitchhikers just to ask them for help.

Where are we at?

Where are we?

How do we get here?

Can you guide me basically?

That was what he would do.

A human GPS.

Yep.

He traveled regular routes between Gadsden, Atlanta and Nashville and Chicago, but he'd never

go off the interstate because he was scared he'd get lost and he couldn't navigate.

He also is getting arrested all the time.

I mean, all the time.

That's his frustration, right?

Burglary theft, receiving stolen property and he loves rape.

So yeah, he's the dangerous, a dangerous person.

Yeah.

This is a dangerous idiot is what this is right here.

This is scary.

If there's one, there's 10, right?

There's more of these people everywhere.

All over the place.

Yeah.

This is scary shit.

It's scary.

He would plan burglaries if he saw a sign on a house, a security company sticker or a

beware of dog warning or anything like that.

He would see a sign on a house.

He would copy down the letters, not knowing what they were, then find somebody to ask them

what that meant.

So if it said the Johnson's, it's fine to break in, but if it said we have a giant fucking

dog, then he would say, okay, not that house.

But he would need somebody to, to, you know, to confer with to make sure, which is this

say beware of dog or does this say we're loaded?

What is this?

Yeah.

What does this say here?

Does they please steal all of our shit?

We have gold bullion stacked in the back room, tell yourself you might want to bring

a truck.

It's pretty heavy.

So he would do that, which is, I mean, at least he's trying not to get caught.

I think he figured that out over time.

He would be just always starting as a teenager involved with the law.

The former Gadsden police chief recalls arresting him several times over the years.

When he was younger, it was usually disturbing the peace or trespassing or shit like that.

Yeah.

But later, that's when it grew to assault and battery, burglary, receiving stolen property,

assaulting a police officer.

And of course, the aforementioned lots and lots of rape as well.

Serving the burglary of a Coca-Cola plant, what?

He tripped, he tripped a silent alarm.

Does he think he's got the skills to go into like, I get some shitty house sit in somewhere.

Maybe they don't have an alarm.

Coca-Cola probably has it together enough to keep you out, a moron.

Yeah, but that's not where they have the money.

No, I don't know what he was trying to steal, a quake maker or something, well, he tripped

a silent alarm.

Uh-huh.

Trying to get the recipe.

The least.

Yeah.

That's what he's doing here.

He's like, that's where they keep all the money from all the Coke.

They all bring it out of here.

They're out of the recipe there, I'll take the recipe, I'll make the Coke and I'm the winner.

It ain't even soda.

It's just a warehouse full of money.

That's where they keep it.

It's all that Coke money.

He shoved something, he's like, it's just polar bears and soda.

That's what's going on.

The police arrived and he tried to flee and was shot.

Not critically, but he got shot.

So he got shot.

Yep.

The chief said that he remembers arresting him on a rape charge and said he surrendered to

me peacefully in that particular instance.

He was according to the Alabama Bureau of Investigation, Lieutenant Jim neighbors or Joe

neighbors.

He called him a quote, serial rapist.

Yeah.

He would later admit to several rapes throughout the entire region, what he would do is he's

a peeper.

Yeah.

In the window, see if people were home and watch a woman do some stuff and get all

fucking worked up and then he would come back, find the best.

He'd peep a few windows, find out the best situation, then go circle back to that.

In and out of jail constantly, he twice tried to escape from jail, as we'll talk about

as well.

The first attempt he tried was it ended pretty quickly because he injured himself while

fleeing.

Which he'll have.

Ashing through the wall.

No, he tied bed sheets together because I'm sure he saw that in a movie, you know, Bugs

Bunny did that one time and was using them to lower himself down the wall of the county

jail, but the sheets tore because it's cheap shitty.

It's not.

And he's fucking huge.

It's not thousand thread count Egyptian cotton here that what they have at the jail, I would

assume.

And you don't weigh what a rabbit weighs.

No.

Yeah.

Bugs had had to drop on you.

He's spelt.

And he hurt both of his feet and ankles.

So then he was just laying there at the bottom, needing help now.

Please help me.

Well, a bed sheets dangle above his face.

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Which is hilarious.

He later filed suit against county officials on the charge that they denied him medical

aid for several days and he also alleged that they beat him after they got him.

Now his brother was shot and killed by the cops.

Oh, really?

Yes.

His brother Calvin, one of the police officers said the officer was looking for a suspect

and went into an abandoned building.

He came upon Calvin who was hiding behind a couch.

The officer reacted to the movement and fired his weapon.

So the family was later awarded $270,000 in a lawsuit settlement, which is in the early

80s in Gadsden, Alabama might as well be $50 million.

A house now is $84,000, like that's crazy.

So that's what happened.

Then he was 20 at the time.

His brother Calvin when he was shot and killed.

He's got three X wives at this point.

He also travels under the name Bobby Hill.

Yeah, that's his name.

He didn't know.

He didn't know that would be funny.

So no idea.

No idea.

I don't know you.

That's my first.

Bobby Hill from Gadsden is who he told people he was and he was traveling.

Crazy.

Also he describes to everybody that he's quote, best friends with animals.

Oh, not really like dogs.

Yeah.

You could give him like a possum and he'll see things he can like, but he's a doctor

do little basically.

Yeah.

That's what he's doing.

You do little.

Um, wife number one, I believe her name was either last name Morgan or first name Morgan,

something like that.

Apparently, she said that he coerced her into marriage through threats to kill her

and her family, marry me or I'll kill your family.

And she said, I guess I better marry her.

Coerced her.

Yeah.

No, she, he's a real hot commodity and she said, I'll kill your whole family.

You don't marry me.

You speak sexy.

Thank you.

You don't marry me.

I'm killing everybody.

Yeah.

That's wild.

So she married him eventually and got divorced.

Wife number two, there was a bunch of abuse in the relationship that didn't last long.

Yeah.

And then wife number three is Rebecca led better holiday who we started out with here.

She's about six years younger than him.

The marriage fell apart because he's him because he's Glenn.

He's Glenn.

That's just how he is and they got a divorce.

So her new life away from him, she took the, the son she and moved into a mobile home

on Tidmore Bend Road and started a new life.

Yeah.

Is this Glenn son?

No.

No, no, no, no.

This kid's like 12 years old.

Okay.

Glenn was, he's, he was married to two people since this kid's been born.

Now she also even has a new boyfriend, William David Robinson.

And she must go to him because, you know, he's seven foot tall black and it's in the Navy.

You know, he's a very steady man.

It's a naval officer for Christ's sake.

He's a wonderful human being.

Very respectful polite man.

He plays terrific post defense also.

He's very good.

Well, amazing biceps you've ever seen.

Oh, Jack.

He looks jacked.

His arms are the most beautiful thing.

Yeah.

I was blown away by them male Michelle Obama is what he looks like.

He's like a jacked arms.

Yeah.

He's ripped up and he goes by David Robinson, which is hilarious.

I would do.

Yeah.

Well, this was, this is 86 before David Robinson was even a thing.

So he set the trend this guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly.

He's born in 61.

This guy.

He's one of seven children and he was working in Georgia at the time and met her.

And they got together now.

His sister Jane describes him as a kind, gentle, charming, quote, good old boy.

David Robinson.

David Robinson is good old boy with no temper and very protective of others, by the way.

Even Keel fella.

That's right.

Now, this, this, this town, by the way, all the pictures in the newspaper of everybody.

Everybody is standing in front of a junk car wearing not enough shirt and would stains

all over them.

Every single person in this fucking story is a stained shirt guy whose best photo op is

in front of their junk car in the front yard.

It's just working on it.

It's so weird.

It's, it's almost like, yeah, I'm working on this one.

It'll be, it'll be running pretty soon here.

Pretty soon.

Now, he knew Rebecca.

They were friends from being kids and reconnected through her brother and then they were dating.

And it was starting to get more serious as 1986 goes on.

In March of 1986, Glen is in jail.

He's at the Cherokee County Jail in center, Alabama.

Now he was there because Decalbe County had arrested him for receiving stolen property.

The Decalbe facility was undergoing construction.

So they shipped him to Cherokee County, temporary.

Now on a day when most of the staff was in court, there was court stuff going on.

There was only one jailer on duty.

Now Glen's a big, powerful lunatic.

He overpowered the guard and took his gun and locked the jailer in the cell.

Like a, like a crazy Western movie.

Overtook the literal lease again.

Now you get in the cell and locked him in there and then just walked out.

The easy way for that not to happen.

Don't walk up to the cell and open it.

At all.

Don't get your gun close enough to the cell.

Well, if he was taking him for a shower or taking him to something like that.

I don't know.

I'd wait till everybody else gets back.

I guess, I guess, but that's what happens.

So the county sheriff at the time said, as I remember, we only had one jailer on that particular

day about all of us wrecked court.

Yeah.

So what ended up happening after that?

He and another inmate Miller, this guy, they left that day and they took a red pickup truck

driven by Howard Corson.

They, they carjacked the guy and made a guy drive them somewhere.

They forced Corson at gunpoint to take them across the state line to Georgia after he

locked the jailer in the jail after he locked the jailer in the jail.

So now he is a fugitive from justice.

He's armed in a literate and a danger on his way to Georgia on his way to Georgia.

So sometime in this after he escaped, he's showed up at Rebecca's trailer while he's

on the run.

He's there.

Yeah.

So he's wanted on escape charges.

He's a fugitive.

He's a good napping, but he shows up at the trailer, broke in and beat the shit out

of Rebecca and then left after the cops were called somehow snuck away and got away

from everybody.

Wow.

Yeah.

Crafty.

Now, Rebecca obviously is scared of him after that.

I'm very.

Yeah.

So David Robinson here, he thought of the threat was serious as well.

So he brought a gun over to the house for her to protect herself with here.

Now, Rebecca was afraid, everybody was afraid, brings a gun in, says, case claim comes

over, shoot him in the fucking head, ask questions later, basically.

So many times.

Now the, he has such a long record, the county sheriff Roy McDowell, when questioned

about holiday's criminal record said, you name it, he's done it, which is awesome.

That's pretty fucking amazing.

We've been dealing with him for 25 years now.

So I'm not surprised at anything he'll do, but no worry, he'll be out soon.

He'll be out soon and, you know, then we'll put him back in and, you know, it's a really

good idea.

We got a real just kind of go around and circle.

He's the reason, he's the reason that habitual offender laws exist so that we lock him

up longer, right?

We call him the hoki poky laws.

You put yourself in turn yourself around and put your left leg out and you're on out

now.

And that's that.

It's that works.

1986 in August, he's in Nashville.

He meets a man named Richard John Hardy, Dick Hardy over here.

And that's Hardy, like a hearty, like the stout, like the soup, I'm Hardy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like the adjective for a chunky soup, Hardy.

Yeah.

He introduced himself as Bobby Hill from Godston, Alabama.

So he met a person there that'll come up again.

August 23, 86, he visited Hardy at his house.

While he's there, he mentioned that his ex-wife's name was Becky and that she had a new boyfriend

and very matter of fact, if she doesn't stop seeing him, I'm going to kill her.

So there's that.

Oh, fuck.

He said, verbatim, quote, if she didn't stop seeing him, he was going to kill her.

That's what the guy said.

He, this is a, he met this guy once.

So I guess he figured he's talking to him under an assumed name.

So who cares?

I guess.

August 24, 1986, this evening at the mobile home on Pope Road here.

This is where Rebecca is.

And there's a lot of mobile homes.

They're very close together.

Everybody hears everything.

It's a parallel part.

If one person's fucking, you're like, oh, Billy's getting it on down there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Down there.

Yeah.

Number four, boy, he's letting, oh, he's, he's putting it on her, boy.

You hear that?

And they're, you're at number 14, too.

Like that's your well distance away here.

So the police, or I'm sorry, police, there's people present here.

She's there.

Rebecca, her son, Shay is there.

Her sister Katrina is there.

And also David Robinson is there practicing layup drills in the driveway, obviously.

That looks not.

And also Larry Thomas Jr. is there who's the 16 year old from next door who's spending

the night with Shay because they're best friends, even though he's 16 and Shay's 12.

Yeah.

Okay.

Whatever.

Um, so we don't know if he doesn't, if they don't go to school together, that's, I mean,

they might be in the same class.

So Larry Thomas Jr. is 16.

His family calls him hook, by the way, which is not a great nickname for him.

He's missing a hand.

I had something.

No, his mom calls him that.

Oh, that's like a cute nickname.

He's got all his appendages from what I understand, I'm not sure.

He's the only child of Larry Thomas senior and Claire Fletcher.

Yeah.

So he lives real close by and he's spending the night.

Now, as this is all going on, Rebecca's in her bedroom, David Robinson is in there

with him.

Shay is in his room and Katrina is also there.

Rebecca sister.

Okay.

Okay.

And Larry Thomas is there, like we said, spending the night at the friend's house.

So this little trailer has five people in it.

So we know that at some point, Larry Thomas decides that there's nothing here to eat

and he's going to walk back to his house quick to grab a snack.

Okay.

And I'll be back in a minute.

So he walks out the front door of the trailer to go to his house.

As he's doing that, he gets shot.

What?

He gets shot.

Someone was waiting in the darkness outside the trailer for him and he's just going back

for baked lays and he gets shot.

He gets shot.

I don't think the word baked enters into anybody's vocabulary here.

Do you have extra deep fried lays, extra?

Yeah.

We're not.

We've got anything like that at all, cooked in more fat.

We have large lays, is that possible?

So he walks out there, apparently Glenn thought he was David Robinson.

He thought he saw a guy walk out.

So he shot him twice.

My God.

Larry Thomas Jr.

collapsed outside the trailer and dies, killed a 16 year old.

Yeah.

So then Glenn forces his way into the front door, armed and obviously violent.

Yeah.

Katrina is up getting ready for bed.

She saw him come in.

She yells for Rebecca.

Holy shit.

Glenn's here.

She screams that Glenn, rather than shoot Katrina, just shoves her aside, like a monster

movie shoves her aside and keeps moving down the hallway.

Huh.

Now he stops at Shay's bedroom, the 12 year old.

He tries to turn the light on.

He's trying to find it in the dark and he can't find the light.

So he gives up and keeps moving on.

Now Shay recognized him, you know, because there's more light in the hallway and he's

a big guy.

So Glenn moves down the hall, Shay and Katrina now, because he's passed them.

Yeah.

So Shay runs out of his room.

Her and him and Katrina go run next door to Larry Thomas's house, right to call the

cops along the way they find Larry Thomas's corpse in the front yard.

Oh, that's Shay's body.

That's so far.

Yes.

That's so fucked.

Another going to his house.

Use your phone and your kid's dead right there.

Right.

That's brutal.

So they get to the back bedroom now.

Glenn gets to the back bedroom and we know that Rebecca was crouching.

She was in a ball.

Coward.

Yeah.

Coward from this man and he shot her.

The bullet entered the back of her head and exited through her right breast.

So you know, she was all crouched down.

Very low.

Yeah.

That's horrifying.

David Robinson is shot in the chest and in the arm as well.

Oh, the arm was probably first, right?

Not sure.

Which he just shot twice.

Shot everybody twice.

Apparently that's what he was supposed to do.

Then he leaves the trailer.

So Katrina and Shay call 911 from the trailer next door, obviously.

Larry, Jr. and David are dead at the scene when police arrive already.

Rebecca was transported to a hospital where she died shortly after.

Oh, Jesus.

So this was a slaughter three P two of them don't know.

They don't even know this fucking guy.

You know what I mean?

This is crazy.

One of them.

He doesn't even know so much.

He missed.

Miss took a 16 year old.

All right.

It's crazy.

So Glenn is nowhere to be found.

And they're hunting him now.

Now it's a hunt and it is insane.

It's pretty much the biggest manhunt in the history of the county.

Really?

State agencies, federal officers, bloodhounds, helicopters, planes.

I mean, you had any 1986 technology they could whip out.

They were doing people are locking their doors.

It's scary shit.

And this they don't find him.

What?

They don't find him.

This goes on for how long weeks this goes on for weeks.

They can't find a man with a 64 eye, a giant man with a 64 IQ.

They can't come up with him.

The district attorney said it was a time when everybody was keeping their doors locked,

watching behind themselves and watching dark corners and everything.

The sheriff at the time said that people were terrified here, absolutely terrified.

And they said it involved one of the biggest task forces with state, federal, and local

law enforcement participating because the case affected everybody.

Oh, how did he go?

So Larry Thomas Sr said they'll have to kill him to get him.

He said so.

Oh, so he says they're going to have to kill him.

There's a wanted poster here that's available on eBay, by the way.

Oh, absolutely.

Want it?

I'm going to get it.

Yeah.

For sure.

It's a wanted poster for Roy in a picture or Roy holiday, I think of, yes, I think of

Roy Halliday, the picture that's popped in the Hall of Fame picture popped in my mind.

He's a Glenn William, a holiday here.

So he's on the move.

What he's doing is he's going to the cheapest motels he can find where they don't want

to look at your face twice because they assume you're either a fugitive or there.

Or prostitution purposes or something or to do drugs horrible, horrible drugs that you're

going to leave shit all of them that's poor people have to clean up possibly to blow your

brains out in there.

Either way, yeah, none of my business, what you do in there, the, all of the worst things

that people do, no one goes to a to a the cheapest motel they could find to like, you

know, write a new verse of the Bible or something like that's never happened or stay before

disney.

Yeah.

Load up.

He would trade his car all the time to avoid detection and sometimes even make money.

He would like sell, sell the car that he just had for something better, something better

or worse or whatever.

He called his brother after the murders and we'll talk about that.

He made his own map because he can't read a map.

So he made his own map, which is fun.

We'll find out about that.

Oh, I want to see that map.

He called his neighbor on August 29th, a former neighbor named Doris Ruth Nance.

She was a neighbor of his father and told her that he had, quote, done a bad thing.

I don't think he'd done a lot of bad things.

He's done more than one.

Yeah.

He told her that he did not mean to kill Ari Thomas and he felt terrible about it.

He said, I thought it was David.

I don't feel bad about killing Rebecca and David.

They deserved it.

But he said, the kid, that was a mistake and I didn't mean that shit and I feel bad

about it.

Okay.

So September 6th, 1986, a retired Alabama state trooper named Doyle Embry Wallace is murdered

in Southside, Alabama.

Yeah.

Doyle Wallace is Rebecca Holiday's uncle.

Okay.

Yes.

We find out that basically Glenn showed up at his house in the morning, broke the door

down, screaming, quote, I'm the sheriff.

I'm the sheriff, which is not how cops enter the house.

I'm the sheriff.

I'm the sheriff.

I'm the sheriff.

I'm just running into your house.

Arm kicking your door down.

The sheriff, thank usually the one leading the charge.

No.

You say sheriff's department.

You don't say like Reno 9-1-1.

You don't say I'm the sheriff.

I'm the sheriff.

No.

It's usually a deputy or a whole bit or a gaggle of them.

Something.

So Wallace hid in the bedroom closet.

This is Wallace's wife hidden the bedroom closet while Wallace was shot once in the

neck at close range.

Oh my God.

Glenn stole some jewelry and left, which is crazy.

So I guess he knew where she, this guy was.

I don't know what, what happened here, but Wallace survived.

No.

He died.

Oh my God.

He shot in the neck at close range and murdered.

His wife, they never, I guess, hid in the closet.

Glenn never knew the wife was even there.

So she survived.

So he's on the move.

After this, now they moved the man hunt to this area to Southside, Alabama.

One of the police officers said there's a 50, 50 chance we had a reliable sighting.

Supposedly he knocked on the door of a house where a woman knew, knew him, knew who he was.

She opened the door just as her phone rang and she saw him run across the street and into

some woods.

So a bunch of officers were called in.

They combed the woods.

They brought dogs in.

They didn't find him.

The police, the bullets that were found in Wallace matched the gun used to kill Rebecca

Larry and David Robins.

So the same gun.

Still got the same gun.

Now rumors and fear and shit is spreading like crazy.

One guy here, red blanks is his name, red.

That is a birth name, James.

Yeah.

Red blanks.

That is not a nickname.

Oh no.

No.

He owns blanks barbershop.

He sees the motive to the case.

He said, well, this, this man was married to Mrs, to Rebecca, holidays and he was killed

because it had something to do with the divorce.

This guy said the rumor is that he talked her into the divorce, then later played matchmaker

introducing her to Robinson.

That's the rumor.

People just made that shit up.

Nobody knew that.

They said he said he was going to get everybody that had anything to do with the divorce.

So one of his friends said another people said another person said, people said, people

talk about a list that he's got a list of people he's going to get.

What I say to them is, have you seen this list?

Do you know anyone who has?

It's a ridiculous thing to get rumors started like that.

Yeah.

I would say people are very cautious here.

Everything's going crazy.

They said they're getting 60 calls a day to the county with someone sees someone riding

through the neighborhood on a bicycle, they'll call the cops and they got to go check it

out now.

So it's a lot.

I want to discourage people from talking, but, you know, people will be talking, you

know, if it's a five foot seven black guy, I probably don't call us.

It's not him.

You know what I mean?

And also, you think you can operate a bicycle?

I don't.

Yeah.

No, I don't.

He can't operate a map.

So more rumors here.

They said, as FBI special agent said, you hear rumor after rumor after rumor, but that's

all they are.

Just rumors.

They said that at one point, there was a rumor that he dressed up as a woman.

So he could go to his ex-wife's funeral and be undetected.

He's a six foot three 230 pound man who's going to dress up like a woman and blend right

into the crowd.

No one's going to notice that.

That was an actual rumor that was going on.

Wow.

This is how ridiculous this is.

This is small town murder at its finest right here.

So the FBI guy said, there's absolutely no truth to that.

He's six foot two over 200 pounds.

People would have noticed him.

Yeah.

I did hear the rumor that he was going to pretend to be an elderly British lady and just

maybe sit the kids and just watch a shade over and over just to get his parents to

die.

Jesus Christ.

So there's a sighting here.

A woman calls the cops.

More than 40 officers went to the area around this person's house because somebody saw someone

in their backyard acting suspiciously.

The one guy said, oh, they look like a bunch of honey bees coming down to the hive talking

about the cops coming.

They had their vests and their dogs and their helicopter, but they didn't find them.

I kept on working.

I ain't scared.

He's mean, but I'm meaner than him.

That's one of the neighbors said that.

Oh, really?

I meaner than him.

I'm scared of that guy.

In the newspaper, I'll read right from this article to add to the mystique surrounding

the case.

William said he's been told by the holidays that they are descendants of doc holiday.

The why it erped doc whose name is John Henry.

His name is not holiday.

That's a fake name.

Is it not John?

John Henry.

I thought of holiday.

I thought it was John Henry.

I thought that was his name.

I could be John Henry.

I think it's John Henry.

John Henry.

Holiday.

But the spelling is not that way.

Yeah.

I mean, a hundred years spelling.

Oh, okay.

You might miss a letter.

Well, no, there's, there's people, Petra Gallos who are Petra Gala.

There's ones that are that lose the eye.

There's people spell.

Yeah, they change spellings of their names.

Really?

Oh, yeah.

Absolutely.

That happens all the fucking time.

Okay.

People around Gadsden say that he won't be taken without a fight.

Red blank said it's a fact.

He's going down when they find him.

I think all the police officers will be cautious about this.

Even a good, strong veteran policeman has got to be a little scared for sure because

he's going to try him.

That's what's going to happen here.

So anyway, the other people say the other rumors are that holiday has a vendetta against

the police because his brother was shot and killed.

Oh, they're looking for him in the woods.

One person says this is red blanks again.

A lot of people like to say he's in the woods and all raggedy and everything.

He said, I think he's undoubtedly got people helping him.

He's probably got a house somewhere near Georgia right now.

It's a lot of speculation.

Yep.

And the people are buying guns everywhere.

The guy who owns the gun shop said people are calling asking about guns.

How much is a gun?

They don't say what kind or anything.

Just a gun.

There's a lot of hysteria out there and I don't understand it.

That's because you're the guy with all the guns.

Of course, you don't understand.

You're like, I'm just done.

All your guns up.

Oh, man.

One at one point, one of the guys who knows him said, quote, he ain't no mad dog.

No, no, he just got in a piece of business and now he's in deep.

A piece of business was in the Gambino family.

What the fuck are you talking about?

He's not a mad dog.

He ain't no mad.

He ain't no mad dog.

Not just not a mad dog.

Come on now.

If you were in jail and got a letter from your wife about a divorce, what would you do?

There's two sides to every story.

Not go to her house and murder everybody.

That's what I would do.

If you were in jail and you're married and you don't expect a letter that you're getting

a divorce, you're an idiot.

Yeah.

I would say I would write 15 minutes of standup about it, probably.

I'd write a good chunk.

That's what I would do.

If I'm in jail and I'm going to be there a while, if I don't get a letter, I'm filing

for divorce because this woman will stay with any moron.

No shit.

So he goes on to say he's a good fellow if you know him.

I've got nothing against him.

He's smart.

Okay.

This guy has lost all credibility.

Yeah.

There goes tomorrow.

He's not a mad dog.

He's good.

He's looking up to this man intellectually like this is wild.

He said got to be to run from the law as long as he has and then another person says

what bothers me is people trying to make a hero out of him.

Why?

He's just going to murdering people that don't deserve it.

How's that a hero?

That's fucking crazy.

Now, a one person that was a friend of his, a neighbor of his Mrs. Wallace Harp, who's

a neighbor of Rebecca and knew him describes Glenn as quote, one of the nicest people you

could ever know.

What?

She said she and her family will not sit out their front that will not sit on their

front porch with a gun for protection, but they said that he was such a nice guy whenever

he came into the store.

She worked and also one time at the county fair, him and all the neighborhood kids were

hanging out, including Larry Thomas and he was treating all the children to whatever they

wanted.

He was just being the nicest guy.

He's grooming them as what it sounds like.

And the woman said he was just having a ball.

Yeah.

She said that pistol then.

She said, yeah, what's the, what's what the, what's with all this gun, Philip?

What's that?

She said, if I had seen him when he broke out of jail, I would not have reported him.

That's what she said.

That's what she said, which is fucking amazing.

Weeks later, he's still on the run.

This is unbelievable.

Kidnapped some other guy at one point.

That's another thing that happened to use him as his own little personal GPS that he,

because he couldn't know where the hell he was going.

He was asking somebody for directions, just grabbed him and said, you know where you're

going.

Come with me.

He called his brother somewhere along the way.

And his brother said, quote, he said unless a miracle happened, I would find out publicly

in a few days that he's gone to the next world.

He said that his brother said that he was ready to give up everything and ready to join

my mother and brother and go to the next world.

He said that he had already talked with God and found out that things would be better

in the next world.

That's what he said.

Yeah.

It was actually a guy named Gary that he met at a truck stop.

He just got confused because he doesn't spell very well.

He saw it on his shirt and he was like, capital G, that's God right there.

That's it.

He said, I told him, if you don't get right in this one, it won't be.

I mean, you gotta get right in this life.

He said he feels his older brother's flight will end the same way as his other brother

who got killed.

So October 9, 1986, he's in Gainesville, Florida.

Nothing good has ever happened in Gainesville, Florida.

Absolutely not.

Nope.

He was heading back to his hotel in Lake City and then he stopped because he saw an apartment.

And he wanted a peep.

So he peeped.

He goes peeping.

A neighbor saw him peeping called the cops.

Yeah.

So they send a cop there and he gets away from the cop.

He gets away.

Then another cop found him at this apartment complex.

He got away on a foot chase from the one cop.

Another cop showed up and countered him and told him to freeze.

He apparently grabbed the deputy service revolver.

Uh huh.

This is his move that he does.

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So now he's at the emergency room saying literally, quote, I want my mommy.

I want my mommy is what he said.

Stop it.

So officer Pete Bridget arrives at the scene.

He's at the emergency room.

Glenn's been shot three times, potentially life threatening wounds, chest abdomen arm.

He's receiving treatment, but he's kind of conscious and talking.

So they asked the physician, mind if I read him his Miranda rights.

The doctor said, I don't give a fuck he's conscious do whatever you want basically.

So he read him the rights.

Glenn said he understood them and Glenn said he wanted to talk.

And then he looked up at the guy and he said, my name is Glenn holiday.

I shot and killed four people in Alabama.

There you go.

He thought he killed four, but he at the time, but he he didn't know that the other guy

was dead.

He thought he killed other people, but ended up killing four that he killed.

He said, they say I killed five people over a woman.

She was a lion woman.

She won't be lying no more.

Oh my God.

That's what he said to the cop.

Then he laughed and winked.

He laughed.

He gave me all you gave what I'm saying.

You know, that buddy.

You know what I'm talking about them and women be women be lion.

He left and winked.

He fucking winked.

As if the joke is so buried beneath the sun.

You get it, right?

Kill your, kill your ex her new husband and uncle a child.

Just kill everybody.

You understand what I'm getting at, right?

I killed four people over a lion woman.

She won't be lying no more.

I'll be lying no more.

Wankity, Wank.

He's under armed guard.

So he doesn't run away.

Now, during the search of his car,

they found a small piece of paper with a triangle drawn on it.

A number on each line of the triangle.

They couldn't figure out what it was.

And then they figured out it's a fucking map he made on his own,

because he can't read maps.

The numbers, the numbers were root numbers

of the interstates connecting Chicago, St. Louis and Nashville.

Oh, he's that dumb.

He's that dumb.

He just drew, that's what goes over here.

I hear this one goes over here.

This one goes over here.

He drew himself a map.

That's right, which is wild.

Wow.

Now, the reactions, everybody's very happy.

They said things are getting back to normal now,

and now they don't have to be so scared,

but other residents said,

well, he escaped from jail before,

who says he won't escape again.

He could be doing that.

So he is never charged for the Doyle Wallace murder.

Exactly.

He never charged for it.

Killed a retired cop shot him in the neck,

not charged for it ever.

There's a reason for that, as we'll talk about that.

He does admit to a lot of other shit, though.

He admits that in November of 1985,

he was present when a man named Elton Barkstale,

not Avon Barkstale, Elton Barkstale was killed,

and his body was burned in his home

in the Duck Springs community.

He said he was there for that,

and this is a real murder that happened.

He was an elderly antique collector found inside his burned home.

He was fatally shot.

Jesus.

Yeah, that was in 1985.

So yeah, he admits to that.

He tells investigators about multiple murders

and multiple rapes he's committed all over the fucking region,

everywhere.

He rapes everywhere he goes.

Okay, and he's also...

I mean, this is kind of the dream for an investigator.

You want him to investigate.

Yeah, he's scared to shoot out of me for a second.

Oh, just going around raping and killing him.

What a weekend.

I mean, boy, this guy really lives the life, doesn't he?

I've heard of people going to...

I'm like, what?

But it was about to fucking turn the recorder off right now.

Hold on, stop.

Wait, we gotta...

What are you talking about?

We gotta talk.

We gotta have a long chat.

That's what it means for me to rap.

So as an investigator,

this is like a dream come true for like somebody's just

be giving you all this information.

Telling everything.

This is what we want, usually.

But I don't want this.

I think I just found out I don't want it.

They're not going to charge him with any of the rapes.

Yeah.

None of that stuff.

They're only going to charge him besides the murders

at the trailer.

The only thing that you're going to charge him with

is the kidnapping charge for kidnapping the guy

when he got out of jail.

Okay.

When he's escaped jail and held in the gun in the red truck.

Yeah.

So everybody relaxes the man hunts over.

Larry Senior, his son has been killed, said,

I will rest a little easier now,

but the search for holiday is all that has been keeping me going.

Is any extra real...

Now he has to...

Oh, yeah.

That was something to do.

That's stopping me from grieving.

Now I have to grieve.

This is going to suck.

Yep.

They say packing a 38 revolver and a police scanner.

Thomas has spent weeks in his pickup,

traveling from county to county, searching for holiday.

He's just been looking for him on his own.

Just looking for a 38 slug in him, boy, that's something.

He says he needs five rounds.

I'll get him.

That's it.

He said, if I got my pants on, I got my gun.

I don't feel like I can put it up yet.

Just in case.

They said Thomas was working on a hot water heater

and listening to the police scanner

when he heard a dispatcher say that holiday had been captured.

And they said, did you hear?

Did you hear?

They got Glenn Holiday.

He said that his wife told him that here.

And he said, you know, it's crazy.

They said, we're relieved that Glenn isn't going to hurt

anybody else.

That's the sister.

So she said, you know, that's that.

Trial comes up.

Tons of security because he's a dangerous maniac.

This is the prosecutor's first capital murder case, by the way.

Nice.

Perfect.

The defense say they shouldn't allow any of his statements

he made at the hospital while he was, of course, they said he was,

it was involuntary because he was possibly on medication.

He's a literate.

He's got limited cognitive function to begin with.

If he loses some blood, I can't imagine his IQ is going to go up.

He's been shot three times.

They bring in Katrina who said, he shoved me aside and went down the hallway.

They bring in Shay to testify who said, I saw him in the hallway with a gun.

And it's pretty open and shut, whether they have his admissions or not,

it's pretty open and shut.

The guy from Georgia testifies that or Tennessee testifies that Bobby Hill

from Gadson wanted to kill his wife Becky.

Glenn testifies on his own behalf.

Smart.

He's thinking this one.

Wow.

He said, I wasn't even there at the trail or I didn't kill anybody.

Said I was in Nashville that night.

Oh, well, what about all those people that saw you there?

Yeah.

He said, well, I wasn't there.

Confused me for somebody else.

They're confused.

Very confused.

Verticked guilty of first degree murder.

His defense was, I wasn't there.

One me.

One me.

This is a, he actually, you know, this actually he in the future was a songwriter.

Yeah.

And Shaggy took him up on what he had going on.

He was like, this is brilliant.

There's no matter what happened.

There's nothing to say.

You just say one me.

Well, what if they say you're on camera?

One me.

One me.

One me.

That's all this.

What if I saw you?

One me.

One me.

And then tell you, so awaiting sentencing, he does a jailhouse interview, like a fucking

idiot.

This quote, I think I'm a good person.

Some bad things have just happened to me.

Some bad thing to me, to me, not the rape victims and all of the murdered people.

Wow.

He says he can bench press 400 pounds.

Okay.

More reason to keep you in there.

Yeah.

You're dangerous.

A maniac and scarily.

You can list the folks.

Oh, God.

So during sentencing, the prosecution said that, you know, he's sick and tired.

A violent people in the community, the prosecutor said, um, the, he said that he made

an argument about Thanksgiving dinner saying David Robinson would have been at Thanksgiving

with his family the previous year.

If Glenn hadn't escaped from jail, uh, then he said, remember, Ole Yeller, he said, good

dog, frontier family, loyal protector, then the dog encounters a rabbit animal, fots

it off, but gets infected.

He said, Glenn holiday is now just like old Yeller with rabies.

What?

Dude, this case is the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life.

That's a, you don't know what I, at four o'clock in the morning, I was doing that go, what

am I typing?

What is happening right now?

He said, it's not, and it's not easy to do.

I know because almost 11 years ago, I stood right here and begged for a man's life and it

is not easy.

When you got something like he's got rabies, you don't have any choice.

You've got to kill it.

And this rabid, no, this rabid dog needs to be put out of our community.

The defensive, he was really a bad guy.

The defense subjected and went, you are on or I mean, Jesus Christ, what are we talking

about?

And the defense and the judge said, nope, I'm going to allow it.

I like it.

It's a good analogy.

He said, it's a proper illustration of future dangerousness.

Wow.

That should affect the brain.

That dog will never heal.

He never, he never going to be right.

Glenn's dad testifies and said, he was a good little kid, but somewhere along the way,

he just got mean.

He got bit.

He got rabies.

Meanwhile, his dad also said, he beat the shit out of him constantly.

So wonder what made him mean, stupid.

Yeah.

You gave him mental rabies.

That's perfect.

The judge found two aggravating circle, the court finds two aggravating circumstances.

One, the offense was committed while he was under sentence of imprisonment and escape

prison.

Two, he had a previously been convicted of felonies, including the threat of violence

to a person.

So they found non statutory mitigating factors because the death penalty is on the table.

His terrible childhood, the abuse and neglect he suffered, his quote, slight retardation,

which the judge even said in open court said that about him, his lack of formal education,

but the judge also says, you, sir, may fuck off death penalty.

Oh shit.

In the yellow mama electric chair, which is the county's chair, which is a bright fucking

yellow electric chair for some reason, like, the yellow mom, it's, it's the color of

a yellow Lego.

Like it's like, I searingly yellow.

I don't know why they do that.

The yellow mom, he gone rocking, rock to sleep in the yellow mama, also assessed him $10,000

in victim compensation, which good luck with that.

He also gets convicted of kidnapping as well, and another separate trial.

He sentenced to life in prison for that.

Then there's a trial of his alleged helper, there was a guy who helped him here as well,

Croft is his last name, Tommy Wayne Croft, and he's found guilty of hindering prosecution

by buying a car for holiday.

Croft said that he said that he was terrified of him.

He said, the guy's a fucking, he forced me.

He said, I wanted, I wanted him to get the hell away from me.

I didn't want him to come back for me, all that he's done.

So I helped him.

Yeah.

Doesn't matter.

He got convicted.

Anyway, he's going to appeal the, the everything here, September of 88, his conviction

is affirmed and his sentence is affirmed again.

Alabama Supreme Court affirmed in 89 US Supreme Court declined to review the case.

His direct appeals were exhausted.

They set an execution date for September of 1990, but it's delayed by different appeals

and a new date's going to be set and all of that.

So he's denied a state post conviction relief in 90 and 91.

It's affirmed on appeal in 92 US Supreme Court denies him again in 94.

He filed a federal habeas corpus petition in 94 claiming an effective assistance of

council.

While he's on death row, appealing all this, he's also telling them more shit that he

did.

Really?

He called to the sheriff and said, before they strap me into yellow mama, you boys come

on back.

I've got some more things to tell you.

That's what he said.

And they said he told them all about these rapes and all about this shit.

And they said he didn't show any sorrow for what he had done.