FORGIVE & FORGET: My Best Friend Told Me To Leave My "Toxic" Ex...So She Could Date Him!

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All right, Megan and Talcin, are we going to ask for forgiveness or demand in apology today?

I need an apology from my friend because he helped me leave my husband,

and now she's with him. I don't know if it was help if that's the case.

Or maybe she was really helpful. Wait, what is this? How did this happen?

Okay, so I met Lauren about three years ago at a workout class and you know, when you meet someone

you and you just become really close really fast. Yeah, of course.

So at the time she was going through a divorce and so when my marriage started having issues,

like I leaned on her a lot. I told her everything, like really personal stuff about my relationship.

She always has really strong opinions about it.

Yeah, you know, she was like, okay, this isn't a healthy relationship and you just are better than this.

Yeah, okay, person. Yeah.

And did it seem at the time? Did it seem like it was good advice?

Yeah, like I said, she became the person I trusted the most and all of that

just kind of really gotten my head and eventually I made the decision to leave my husband.

Before all the issues, had she met your husband already?

Yeah, she kind of became like part of our friend group.

Oh wow, okay. She didn't seem like a threat then by any means.

No, okay. Then of few months after our divorce, I started hearing from people that they've

seen Lauren and my ex together. Oh boy.

But first I didn't believe it. I was like, that is so ridiculous.

I can't talk to it. And then I saw them myself.

Ew, not the girl who told you you deserved better.

No, what?

Oh, and now they're fully a couple.

They've been together about six months and I just feel completely manipulated.

It's like, should you won't talk to me anymore?

My ex refused to talk about anything other than the kids.

So I need her to apologize because this is my stuff.

The switch up is crazy. You can't go from this is toxic.

This is unhealthy. You deserve better and then go to my man, my man, my man, my man.

Like it's not adding up. That's not.

No, she literally told me to take out the trash and now she's taking out my trash.

Wow, that is wild.

So she's over here talking trash on this guy.

Like he's so bad and now she's literally with the same guy.

No, girl, she said take out the trash, but now she's eating your leftovers.

Wow, that's crazy.

Yeah, okay. Yeah, I just don't like that.

You guys haven't had a conversation.

You know what I mean? I think things happen.

We're all adults, but I think it's the avoidance,

which makes me feel like she is guilty.

I think that's the red flag to me.

Well, what do you want in this situation?

Like you don't want to get back with him, do you?

Like that's not, you know, trying to do.

No, I have moved on for my husband,

but I lost two relationships.

I lost my husband and then I lost who became one of my closest friends.

Yeah, right.

I want an explanation and I want an apology.

Yeah, and at least acknowledging the situation,

like let's not act like we don't know what went down.

Yeah, okay.

I think that at least is fair to say like,

yo, what in the world?

Like that's nasty behavior, bro.

All right.

Well, if you guys have never done a forgiven forget with us before, damn.

And this is where this is going to get really interesting today,

because if you've never done one of these before,

what happens?

We reached out to Lauren and we said,

hey, listen, we're a local radio show.

We do a segment about forgiveness.

There's somebody who wants to bring you on,

to either ask for forgiveness or ask for an apology from you.

She thinks it has something to do with like a parking lot,

like a fender bender situation.

Apparently Megan didn't even come to mind.

So like she has no idea this is coming.

I don't know what is going to happen

when we bring these two together.

So Megan, I'm going to get in Lauren.

Just don't let her know that you're on,

though, to give her a chance to guess who it is.

I don't think she has any idea to use something.

I don't know how this is going to go.

Hang on one second.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

Let me get in Lauren.

Good morning, Lauren.

Hey, good morning.

Thanks a lot for agreeing to come on today.

By the way, appreciate that.

Yeah, no problem.

You know, I know Charlotte explained to you how this segment kind of works.

And who did you think it wanted to bring you on today?

The only thing I can really think of is the fact

that I had a bump this car in a parking lot the other day

and I didn't leave it out.

I was in a hurry.

So it has nothing to do with your car.

The person that wants to bring you on today

is your boyfriend's ex-wife, Megan.

I want you to apologize for convincing me to divorce my husband

and then instantly dating him.

Look, you guys were not a good match.

And I was the first one to say,

hey, this is not working for you.

It's like the red flags were there.

So it's not like I started with the intention of,

oh, I'm going to get with him because he's so great.

There was no intention of getting with him.

First of all, when I was a little girl, you know,

no, there wasn't.

So, you know, we went out to dinner.

We went out to drinks.

You got to know him.

And that's when you started really telling me that there were problems.

I don't think that's a coincidence.

No, it is a coincidence.

It's like I'm not going to like jump up in somebody's relationship

when they're like working through it with their husband.

I thought that kind of, you know me better than that.

Lauren, Megan shared with us that you would tell her

how unhealthy it was, how much she needed to get out of the situation

and that you told her to throw out the trash.

And now you are with the man that you call trash.

That is to the, yeah, okay, I'll give her that.

But like, look, my mom and dad divorced, too, right?

It was not a good relationship.

I know it was a good relationship.

But then he found love later with somebody else.

And it was like, you know what,

not everybody is meant to be together.

And it's like, he reached out to me.

We started, you know, DM and each other.

And it was like, oh, he's a real person.

It's like you get to know them outside of the situation.

I could see him and see his side of the story and go, okay, I get it.

You think it was a them dynamic, not a him issue

after you got to like figure it out?

One hundred.

Yes, because she knows me.

Megan, you know me.

You know what, it's like, I can't, I did know you

when you haven't picked up the phone for months.

You couldn't tell me that you were going out with my husband.

I had to find out from friends.

Well, why are you avoiding her?

I guess that's a good question.

Why are you avoiding her now?

He asked me not to.

And so I was like, okay, I can do that.

But, you know, I really didn't feel good about it, honestly.

Well, I mean, so is there any harm or any foul

then, honestly, because I mean, Lauren's saying,

listen, I gave my best advice and you stick to that.

You're saying like to my friend, I said,

listen, I don't think your dynamic is good.

I think you guys should leave each other, okay?

One hundred, yeah, one hundred percent.

And they did. They left each other, right?

All of a sudden, she's like, hey, maybe we could actually

have a healthy, healthy dynamic.

And now it seems like you guys are.

So like, is Lauren in the wrong for that?

Honestly, well, I think the shady part of it is the fact

that she did it in secret.

And even when she started talking to Megan's ex-husband,

because Megan was her friend first,

which you did acknowledge Lauren,

and you acknowledged how close you guys were,

at least communicate that with her.

I'll give you that.

You don't think the action itself is wrong, though.

You don't feel like being with him is wrong at all.

One hundred percent, no.

I think it's okay.

Violation of trust.

How is that, how is that a violation of trust?

You tell me.

It's like, look, you were broken up with them.

We got together months later.

It's not a violation of trust.

Yes, I should have told you when we would be together.

You met him when we were together.

You were my friends.

And now I haven't heard from you for months

because you've been hiding this from me.

The right thing to do would have been

to tell me immediately,

unless you were being shady and doing stuff

before we were out of our life.

Like I said before, I'd like to listen.

I didn't do it.

And I will give you that.

But I am not sorry

for having a relationship with your ex.

Do we feel like Lauren owes Megan

an apology for dating her ex,

even though she said you guys should break up?

I don't know if you can ask someone

to apologize for that part just because it's their life.

So yeah, like, I mean,

I don't know if you can do that to anybody.

Would you guys want to take phone calls on this?

Because I don't know.

Listen, Megan, you came for a very specific reason.

I know that you want that apology.

I don't know if you're allowed to say,

hey, apologize, even though you told me to break up

with this guy very specifically.

I don't know that we can sit here and demand like,

hey, you need to apologize.

Like do you take a phone call on this?

Yeah, I think everyone's going to be on my side.

Well, let's do this.

So basically what's happened here is like Megan and Lauren

were friends.

Megan confided in Lauren and said, listen,

my marriage, I feel like might be falling apart.

And Lauren's like, yeah, girl, he's trash.

Like leave this guy.

And so Megan did.

And then Lauren started instantly,

when I instantly, but within like a few months

started dating her ex, like does Lauren

owe Megan an apology for doing that?

Because now obviously Megan feels wronged by this.

Who's up?

This is Ashley and Bellaire on three.

Hey, Ashley, I mean, what do you think?

Do you feel like Lauren owes Megan an apology

for literally saying, hey, divorce your husband

and then like dating her husband instantly?

I think Lauren is actually getting way too much hate here.

Megan didn't leave her husband because of her,

like it's not like Lauren was cheating.

True.

She said, saying happened, she said there was nothing,

you know, weird between them.

Yeah.

You know, Megan just left because she wasn't happy.

Right.

So you can't force someone to lose a marriage

unless you already feel that way.

She was also venting to Lauren all the time.

Lauren was just like giving honest advice.

I just don't see that that was her being manipulative

about it with just listening to her friend vent.

And I think honestly she kind of went about it

in a very dull way.

She didn't hide it to Megan.

But she did, she actually, she did hide it though.

I think that's the issue where Megan feels like it's

shadier than what how Lauren is leading on.

Because Lauren went behind her back

and started talking to him after they separated

without saying anything to Megan when they were friends for.

So I think that's why she's having a hard time

believing Lauren's intentions when she was telling Megan

to leave her husband at the time.

I can understand why she wouldn't tell Megan at the time

because she started getting into things with her ex

and he said, hey, like I need you to not tell her.

I need you to not tell Megan.

And of course, like when you're with somebody

and you're falling in love, you want to do stuff for that,

you know, I think it just makes sense.

So you feel like the loyalty should have been then with the ex.

Like the loyalty should be with the new boyfriend

versus with your friend.

Yeah, absolutely.

The loyalty should absolutely be with the new guy.

It's love, you know, it sucks that that's what happened,

but this is also two adults making a choice

after a relationship is already done.

All right, who's up Jess?

This is Melissa on two in Columbia.

Hello, Melissa.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Do you feel like I'm in a twilight zone?

What?

Wait, why?

What is that?

Because it was Ashley just said.

Yeah, I don't think so.

Please, the floor is yours.

Please, first of all, she was never even her friend

because I have many friends.

And I would never, if their ex had the message to me,

I would have been like, yeah, I don't think so.

And I would have went and told my friend,

you know, someone's so is the enemy straight up.

Immediately, I would have said that screenshot a 0.5 second later.

I don't care how grown up and how sweet and how she just knew

they were a match together.

Uh-uh.

It wasn't her friend, so it doesn't matter.

She wasn't her friend.

Yeah, that's it.

And I think she should apologize,

but it doesn't mean anything because she doesn't care about you.

Well, damn, how do you really feel, Melissa?

How do you really feel right now?

I mean, if it was me, she wouldn't want to see me.

Because what would you do?

Actually, probably don't, that's probably

Melissa, Melissa is a good friend.

No, we don't do that.

Yeah, we don't.

We just don't do that.

Just straight up.

They go, Melissa, thank you, Melissa.

You got to your friend.

No, we hear you.

We hear you.

They go, Melissa, thank you, Melissa.

Uh, who's up, Jess?

Uh, this is Elizabeth on one in Dundock.

I'm scared now.

Hello, Elizabeth.

Good morning.

What kind of energy would you like to bring to this call today?

Well, I'd like to say this is not a girl's girl.

Oh, you broke a girl code.

Damn.

I absolutely agree with the previous caller.

Yeah, that you don't do that.

Like, if my husband and I broke up,

regardless of whether my friend was saying,

hey, I think that he's trash.

Like, that's a key word there.

Damn.

You don't go after a friend's ex.

No matter what, even if you think

that maybe you're like, we're better alone.

Literally, girl code.

Straight up.

Straight up.

Okay.

I think it's actually disgusting behavior personally.

Wow.

You're going to say all that stuff about him.

Like, it doesn't make sense.

Thank you for calling.

I mean, listen, it sounds like Lauren, honestly,

that most people are saying that like,

you may, may, may, probably over an apology then for this.

I mean, you did the wrong thing.

So like, I don't know how they can say that,

because I'm not going to be the kind of trashy person

that's going to be like, you know, you don't try to hook up

with somebody's, you know, the husband,

like, there's somebody to tell him to get a divorce.

It's like, let's do it.

I've been through the divorce.

I know how hard it is.

Yeah.

Like, come on.

Megan, how do you feel after hearing that?

It just all feels too shady to me.

Like, the timeline just doesn't add up the way she talked

about it before, or how she's talking about it now.

And leaving my husband was one of the hardest things

I've ever done.

Yeah.

I think leaving this friendship is going to be the next hardest.

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