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Liverpool kick off their 26/27 Champions League stage campaign at Anfield to face Diego Simeone's Atletico Madrid, a team who head into the in a period of on and off the pitch turbulence, can the Reds take advantage and make a positive start on Wednesday night. Ian Ryan is joined by Kieran Molyneux, Keifer MacDonald and Phil Blundell Also in the show, Neil Atkinson chats to Miguel Periera about Atletico Madrid. ⁠Download SAILY in your app store and use our code TAW at checkout to get an exclusive 15% off your first purchase! For more info, visit saily.com/taw...⁠ Subscribe to The Anfield Wrap for more on Liverpool's season Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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one of the things they're talking about is the Champions League and it's a massive competition for Liverpool. It's such a huge, such an important competition for this to do well in. So there's going to be an element of pressure, but also a lot of ours on the other role and now we have the first Champions League game. Me personally, I'm not going to say confidence of winning the competition, but I'm confident that we're going to start well and confident that we're going to get out to the league face. So it's got a little bit of time in my opinion to figure out the Champions League before you get to the squeaky bum time and the business end of it. But I am excited and I'm really, really excited. I'm not going to lie on my little bit nervous, Ronaldo. Keith, are you feeling about it? I mean, it is the manager's first goal. I think he'll maybe have a little bit of nerves in there, but I think he'll relish it as well. I think the fact that it's athletic almost real, it feels like a tasty one. Yes, I've played them recently at Anfield. That would quite a feisty affair. People will remember the clips of Simione getting it on with a fan, some people around us

tell them I know who that is. But it was a feisty night. They do make for pretty interesting affairs. I said before, I'll just go and look forward to it. I think the manager will be and hopefully it's a game that just gets people off the seats a little bit. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's got all the ingredients for your first Champions League game with a season off of the set at Anfield, which is always nice. Obviously, it's the manager's first time in the competition as Keo said. You've also got the element of Bradley Barclay, kind of waiting in the wings. We'll get another glimpse of him when he makes his first start. I think there's loads to be excited about. It's against a decent opposition as well. Certainly not one of the top end of Pop One teams that you could have got, but there's still a big name that, as you say, we played them last year. It was an interesting game. It was a lively game. I think for Iriola as well, it's stylistically what they're going to bring to the table. That's going to be driven in terms of how intense they're going to make it. That asks a lot of questions of him, but you're just like the thing that Liverpool can kind of

get the job done and he can box off his first win as a Champions League manager, kind of as soon as possible. That's really important when you start a new club, when you're making that step off, if you can tick off as quickly as possible at the first moment. Obviously, he's first Winner's Liberal Major on Friday night. If he can follow that up by winning the Champions League for the first time, I think it will certainly help him settle into the job, settle into the role, kind of take any nerves that he might have of managing in the competition. But I also think as well, there's an element of the way the Champions League is now that it's maybe not as there's not as much jeopardy as there was a few years ago. Even if he wasn't to win tomorrow night, I think you've got a cushion of some nice games. You've got eight games to try and get through and you'd imagine that over the eight games Liverpool will get through. You would have much knuckle, wouldn't you? I think as far as draws go, it could have been a laharsha. I'll suggest that Rob Guttmum was very much of the opinion that most of them are Bums. So we'll run with that to please Rob. But I think there are some good sides in there, but there are some sides in there that you

would expect Liverpool to be able to negotiate and navigate with some relative ease, I would say. I think in terms of the manager, there probably will be a little bit of him learning on the job because of all the things you've said about it being his first one in the competition. All of a sudden he's going to those two or three games in seven days. That will be something very different than what he's had to encounter before. Yeah, it's a big squad manager in task for him because as she hasn't done this before, he hasn't had the intensity of playing athletic on Madrid on a Wednesday and then playing full on at three o'clock on the Saturday afternoon. We've probably been really lucky in fact that there was a friday like game and not only was no friday night game, we were two in all the past 10 minutes and you're able to bring you suck off after 60 minutes. We've talked on the pretty much warm up last week about how you can make you play whole these games and one of the ways I suggested was score goals early, bring them off and thankfully did just that and I think you can probably now in a position where you can probably go for, you can start, I think you can start both games now and that really helps, that really helps the manager. But you still have to find his way

through this and figure out what way because I think this one probably isn't the task. I think the next set of games is a task when you've got back to back weeks of it and I think we play last on the Wednesday and Ville Royale on the Tuesday and go to Brentford on the Saturday. That's a really hard, really hard one but at the same time it's not the way I set a champions league fixtures to have you're fitting around that and you could be everything could be where. So we've worked, we've done really well with this draw, I think it obviously is a completely random thing but it's not exactly a million miles away from what you would have picked if you could have chosen. You might have sort of gone, I will play sabbara instead of the lawns for example from Pop 4 but when you take everything to consideration we've got probably two, I didn't want to say we just put least strong teams in from Pop 1, we got outlet to come with as an inter because I've got Bayern, Bayern, Barcelona, PSG, you know when you look at it like that you take what you've got and you're born with it and I think Liverpool got a real opportunity to get after a bit of a fly out here and you put three points on the board which you know, Bradamfield's on a big European nice, you'd like to think we do but if you get that three points you got a bit of momentum into it

and you can fly, I think we need to fly into this international break and sort of feel you know 10 feet tall and beating outlet comes at the home's will be an opportunity to get that ball roll. Yeah, at a 100% degree with that key, I want to do a little bit of back and forth and on the Champions League game of course but also just taking to a camp what we've seen so far from and down the area, there's Liverpool, it is only three games in so it's very, very early days but what have you made of this current version this far? I think it might be fair to say this is what I expected. To be honest, I looked at the new castle game and I thought it was a really, really tough place to go, they've got this hatred for the sense that these acting anyway and I remember going there last year and it was really tough so we expected the same this year, the results is a fair as well for new castle away, the forest game I sort of expected, I thought Liverpool might get the win but I expected what I've seen and then I expected what I've seen to be kind as well. So I'm fine, we were able to Liverpool there, the minute there's a lot of room for Liverpool to improve but they will improve,

I think we're still in a, is it fair to say we're still in the part of the season where we're still gaining fitness and some players we're still figuring out best 11s shape, for me we've seen what could probably get on to the team selection in a bit but Gavin Beck on the bench again until we can, I mean we're still we're still working in the midfield else, you played a one on the right now right back so we still working that out so we still got things to work out given the factor we didn't get the players in that we wanted to play in the squad's not exactly where we wanted to be so I'm not surprised with the face three results and I expect of a pool to get better week by week and I won't, I probably agree with Phil, I'm on a flying team national, fly into the international break that's what I want to say and and then I feel after that international break you'll probably start to see the Liverpool that we will see for the rest of the season. What about you, Keith, for instance, have you seen so far any big surprises? Not really, I knew there'd be some teething problems and then there'd also be elements and flashes of kind of the football that he wants to play,

I thought the Esauq's first goal again, tips which on Friday night was kind of the football that you can probably expect to see from him long term I think it's Kirk, isn't it, wins a ball back kind of quite aggressive with the press, it comes to Gappo and you know last season you might have taken out while maybe Dilly, Dilly dallyed with the ball but he's quite direct, he plays a pass pretty much straight away and then you know it's that kind of vertical movement through the pitch you know minimal touches and he kind of threads a ball into Esauq you know smashes it home and is that kind of like winning the ball high up, he's not similar to Klopp but you know there are elements of it there but then I think you saw at times in the second half we made a bit open as well you know one ball over the top did as it a few times and we've seen that in some of the other games as well so look I think we all know to start yet at Bournemouth and we've all you know heard kind of Bournemouth's players talking about you know pressing triggers and kind of learning how how he plays his style and even said in the press conference after about ESAC like he's not worried about the goals it's going to be everything off the board that he's going to have to to learn and kind of make him in worthwhile and so I think that's going to come with time and as Kio says he's still you know

learning about his midfield balance who he prefers you know he's still got a full back situation on his hands to kind of solve and work out so look at him and delighted he got the win on Friday because that takes a bit of pressure off always but he's going to be I think that I think there will be you know games that I very much remind me of like 17 18 Liverpool where maybe having to score three goals past you know a newly promoted team to get the three points or you can you maybe proceed in two goals a game or or two big chances you know I mean so I think you know we have seen elements but it's going to be a working progress. I guess you can talk to themself well Phil I'd say the manager is just in terms of the press conferences that he's given so far it doesn't seem to get too high with kind of you know with wins I mean there's only been the one so far but it also he doesn't kind of overreact as some of the kind of maybe what the class is more disappointing results and listen now two draws not the end of the world but I think early on year in you're always looking to get off the mark I think one of the key things for them will to put into kind of I suppose make a mark on

the team that we want to share is is diverse thing with it hasn't really kicked in yet I think there's already signs with Isaac that actually it's starting to happen and that might just be a natural thing of him finding his fitness but I think the Florian vets can run from still for me it does remain a little bit of a question yeah it does I think I think you can have lots of different viewpoints on it and you can argue them all I think personates a wide image field issue in terms of we don't get in the ball in the right areas not that I mean there was one he gave the ball away sort of on the edge of our own box the other day and I was a bit like well I don't really want him to be making passes there that should be where he's getting the ball from and he should be turning and he should be running into space and he should be picking people off with through balls I think get him in the right areas and he'll do damage you've seen like you think about the ball to really us against the forest that's just it it's a simple ball put it also an excellent like it's an excellent ball to put it in an area where we can have it in the back

of the net within probably two seconds of it leaving the its his feet if you do that that's good and you've got a sort of getting in the right areas and I think Liverpool does far the season last season haven't really had him in the areas where he's most dangerous enough of the time and he and as a consequence he's been quite easy for teams to to shut down I think if you if you sort of watch him you quite often say him just in like of the middle of a form unbox that the opposition able to put him in because of how we're unable to get the ball to him or the mid you know strikers not strikers sort of what I play as lassies and very well we're unable to go in behind for example and you can't go in behind you're much easier as a team to play against and it's probably impacted him the most that's not to say that the chance for he will end up you know coming go do anything like that but I don't think the circumstances have probably been as beneficial to him as you'd like and then someone will go well he's a hundred and sixteen million pound player he shouldn't need these circumstances but footballers do you can't just put a footballer on and go just sort

it out mate you go to football you cost loads of money it's not how it works you have to function as a team and as a teammate and as teammates to get the best out of footballs and I just don't think so far we haven't had something that I actually have a fair amount of faith in the manager to do I think it was really interesting the day after the first game he changed my field and put my carlester I think my carlester is probably the most suited we've got to this two man my field because he's defensively aware where he can also pick the pass out whereas dealers have got other things but they can't do those two vital components which I think you know he put two macarons in there the thing better it would look better but obviously that doesn't there isn't two macarolesters and I think that kind of thing would help and this is just the kind of thing you know the squad's imperfect and it's going to take time to to piece everything together and get the best out of everything so we just have to sort of live with it for a while then that's how it is I do like Kio how he how the manager did react it was almost he was quite from four and making changes early on I think the bloody investing you know was interesting I always find the

the discussion around him like it's just really extreme you know it's almost like two camps where there's people talking about him like he's having weldies on on a on a kind of weekly basis which I don't think is true and then there's people talking about him like he's almost you know always to the shirt which also is not true I think you know the truth probably as always is is somewhere in the middle I do think it's fine to have you know big expectations of a player who's coming for a hundred million plus here he doesn't said the fee we know that but ultimately in when you're coming for that amount of money that does bring pressure it does bring expectation I at times I've been a little bit underwhelmed by him I think ideally hoping it maybe would have kicked on a little bit more by now but there are flashes in there there are games where it is I think very good and the problem is a lot of those games are backed up by other good games they tend to be good games and then there's a couple of average ones in there maybe one or two poor ones and that's

where you left a little buff a little bit frustrated but I agree with Phil I think the manager ultimately will get the best out of this footballer I do believe that I think that will be a thing and I think the player will have a lot to say about that as well I think he'll naturally just start to figure some of this out but where do you want him because I think he is still a I'll play that getting an awful lot of attention in different ways but ultimately whilst he's in a red share you just wanted to succeed massively wanted to succeed and I really really believe in and I agree with your people of course to the extreme and I think I may be guilty this one times myself because I think there's people out there who can see the quality understands the amount of time that he's been here I know those people watching this going to be even over a year last year you're complaining about the manager so you've got to put you've got to put that one is the manager that was bad or was it a player that was bad and so you put last season to bed and look at it from this season yet the new class of game you could probably argue you wanted a little bit more from the whole forward and a little bit more aggression a bit more fighting including these achina in the second

game he's looking not to get a goal getting assist and in my opinion it's man of the match so that's a decent game so I think it's I think we need to be very careful because there's people going to start banging heads here I might be sitting next to you and you're saying so I'm not you know he's a waste he's crappy can't shoot the league and I come I thought you played well the other night for example what like 10 out of 10 but I thought he was decent and often and there's people going are he's tenable I was just I just didn't really I didn't really see it I was setting the main stand for the knowledge game and there's a philippia and he just kept shot and come on you we want some magic from you and I was like this is not healthy for you for him for anyone here I you will get magic from them and support and the team is a partner player you can't just say to a player you were under the 16-linker I want you to win a match on you know on every single week because that's where some people are at and some people are now trying to prove the right by saying he's not good enough for this league he's not strong enough for this league or or sometimes just ignore him some of the some of the good moments that he has in games ignore him some of the good games

he has then there's the other side of it who was saying oh you can't see it he's he's playing well class and he's not he's not quite playing well classy yet so the right answer is you say you're somewhere in between me personally I think he's going to be one of the best players in the league I really really do I think he's got all the attributes all the quality and sometimes a look at him and think you are on a different pace some of these players and when when they get on your page or you learn how to turn over to their page it's going to it's going to it's going to wait it's going to click I remember seeing the Semenyo podcast where he talked about the Ruyola and the pressure that was on mountain on some of the players and the manager and after about 90 in game he felt it clicking training I think I hate the cliche but it will click and when it does click he's going to be one of the most important players in our side so if anyone listen I would say just hold your horses a little bit because you are talking about a potential one of the best one of the best players in the league a potential like Liverpool talisman that's one of the way I don't look him for so let's not say and get on the back and I can say if you

went for 80 million quid that I can some people are being sitting in our going on yeah but he give me a bit of time but once you go over 100 million quid all of a sudden it's like we expect magic we can weak out and yeah it's fair to say you want you want the best out of the player and you want more from the players nothing wrong with saying that but don't go the extreme and be like he's never going to work for the Bapurrem or you know he's not he's not built for this league we wasted the money we should have signed actually the same way come on like we've been three games into the season and I can say I thought he played decent to the weekend I thought he was one of our best players against Foddhurst so like let's get a bit of a bigger a bigger pool of data under this manager before we start writing off for the invaders and that applies to ESA for the way I think one thing that's quite interesting a lot of times is if you think back to our season there were times where you'd be looking at him on about 60 65 and you'd be like probably need to you know you needed to go off in the manager was taking him off and he wasn't quite he wasn't quite there and able to do 90 minutes but I've been looking at the distance covered stats oh he's dropping his running top of it by your mile he's running more than anyone I think Mr Foddhurst was about 12 13k and it was Gachpot was about eight yeah I was like looking

at going wow he's he's he's everywhere he's the one actually he's pressing like the manager wants and suppress he's the one probably understanding this quickly and the point with more that was an adjustment that he had to make and he has made so the other adjustments that we wanted to make will come over the time because you look at his ability and his ability is just one double I think the one big change I've seen probably this season and again it's only only three or four games but last season and it might be kind of related to Phil's point in terms of like his his kind of physicality and stuff but he felt like why don't you just wasn't in a game you was so on the periphery it did feel like you were playing with 10 minutes time and like he just I think he comes across as quite an introverted character so he's not someone who's you know if he's not getting the boy he's gonna you know go and grab a game by the scuffle the neck and be like you know give me the ball as you've seen some players do before so I felt like you know if he was off it he was you know kind of pretty much absent you know you didn't feel like you had him on the pitch but I think this season there's been a bit more element of him demanding more and you've seen nine games where like okay even if he hasn't started where I was not maybe involved as much as he would like to be he's

going and he's looking for those opportunities and whether that relates to a manager set up or or maybe it as Phil says just kind of how he is adapted to the Premier League physically I think we've definitely seen that I've definitely seen that kind of change in him and and almost his attitude as well so that's a positive but I think you know if you're looking at a manager for a track record of kind of improving players that was obviously one of the big ticks with with Iriola wasn't it so you know if you can you know the talent there with versus isn't it so it it should be an easier job then maybe what you're doing at Bournemouth where maybe the talent wasn't as ripe as in some other plays if you know what I mean so you know I kind of have full faith in a match is to get the best out of it yeah that all feels fair Phil does and I think sometimes you know you look on out maybe output from other players who we've commented a league at a similar time I think sometimes know the the Ryan Cherokee thing does him a little bit because he comes in with 30 million the output is a little bit stronger you know we play his less start last season the Premier League but similar on to goals in the Premier League but far more assist I think he ends up with 12 so there's a bit of figuring out to do but I think I've been fuller out to attack

the Champions League this season and I have any hope of kind of you know nicking number seven to kind of put it that way and it does feel like a big ask because I think we all recognize the squad is maybe imperfect as you say but if they are to go another real good goalie you do feel like the attacking players of which you could say across Europe it is up there with with most teams if we are to go on a really really good goalie those attacking players I've got to be performing pretty much certainly when you get to the last stages they've got to be there and they're going to be arey yeah if we had to the course final semi-finals we're going to have to take the game to teams and have a go at them when you actually look at the makeup of our squad and this isn't going to be a team that gets to it in the in the Rafferbenitas 2005 style as it you're not going to go to you going to go to Juventus away input 10 member behind the ball and play five with the granders do they've got it's not going to happen but we're able to go that teams because our attack is very very very good it's you know I was looking at you look at Arsenal's at the weekends and obviously Sackers allis and Havett looks a good one but then you think about who they're bringing on and it's not

it's not that special in terms of they're not okay I mean I know I know I put a little chance to think about that but they're not they're not they're not kind of you know they're not they're not they're not really they're not really in a place where they thought they might be in terms of they look so strong in the Premier League and yet I understand the attacking option certainly when you look right through the middle when you kind of take Havett away I think it's a good play I know you're really knows like I know I had gotten a three-month injury because it happens all the time with him it you look at it and it's a bit like well okay I'm happy that our attack is better than theirs the rest of the squad it's not even a I don't think it's a conversation that they're in a better position than us but I'll take our attack over theirs every single day of the week and that's a really good position fit to be in and it's one of the things a sort of understanders gaps in the in the squad but a good attack can pull you through so much if you can go out and score goals you can win any game of football if you keep a clean sheet it doesn't mean you can win a game of football I mean you can't lose and there's a there's a big difference between the two things going out and scoring goals is very important and we've got

the ability to take the game to to anyone I think we might get picked off and take by certain teams and you might go to PSG away and you go it's scored three there but okay we know what this team is we know it's not finished we know we're building towards something over the next next couple of years obviously that's going to frustrate people at times but it is what it is we can't do anything about it in the here and now we just got to accept that what we are is a team who were a little bit flore but with an excellent attack and maybe that can get you a distance in this you could you get to the course finals or semi finals and if you have a good attack in 25 minutes you think of think of the run to KF we beat Manchester City out of considerably better seeing another ball that season they got 100 points in the Premier League Liverpool got four on the last day of the season Liverpool ended that tie in 25 minutes Porto? Cachley and you think of the two Porto you think of the what back to Porto there's Roma if you can if you have a free flow in a tag you can go a long long way I mean I think if we get to the semi finals I'd be you know I think we've done pretty well if we get quarterfiles is probably par for this

Liverpool squads in the position of the wide scope of every other team but you know you beat par all the time the point of par and golfers that you're going to go away below it so it's a way of nothing I think is the full once you're in that quarterfinals. Any in can happen? You always say this but I mean you're two games away from an amfield semi I always always. If you look at kind of where many of the bookies are put in Liverpool it's right? I haven't even looked you know. It's about seventh favorites I know Phil may have a view on this what was that? Yeah I think it is fair yes it's the way it's out of the computer your quarterfiles seven to seven today. About 16 so on the hour I think you know sitting here right now you know there are other teams I would suggest would be in that final coming next kind of meeting June but you saw what I asked not they'd last day and I obviously did good side-ass not they go in the league yes they've got me deficiencies up top where they'd like a little bit more attacking threat but they get a good draw so you can have a really you can have a good side and then for a good side maybe not a great side at the minute it could evolve into that but you can have a good

side and if the draw is favourable and you do the business in this league phase where you make sure you're in the top eight and you get through and there's no hiccups then the draw can be kind and then from there obviously they could have been a January transfer window by then it's like things can look different so I think the thing I'm driving ahead is get off to a good start put yourself in a cup position then you see where you are come turn it yeah and I say I say there's every single season and this competition of a pool shouldn't even be kicking a ball and they can't think you can win it and that's that's the way it is I agree with your point of probably par for the course quarter final if you get to the semi final I'd say the manager as a as a decent season in the in the order being cup but sati and I'm a table now Liverpool should be saying they couldn't they can win the European cup and that's the way it is but to get there you've got to have an element of luck and even if you're paris and jeman you're going to have an element of luck to win the European cup and that make come with a with a late winner that make come with a favourable draw but the fact is we're in this competition to win in and we get out the league phase which I'm confident that we will do and all of a sudden we we we find ourselves a knockout stage and then you're

in a quarter final and say you two games away from an unfield semi and at that point absolutely anything can happen I'm one of those I is there's a lot of set up of the Premier League and the caveman style of football but I guarantee if you went through every list of the team in that European cup they wouldn't be facing English teams it's just the way it is no one likes to come to an English ground especially in the later stages that European cup and especially for can-am field what about you keeper in terms of you know the the favourites expecting to be the usual suspects I mean interestingly you know PSG you've had a bit of a nightmare it's hard to take I'm paying I'm sure they'll sort that out if we have had to go a lot of wiggle room in probably in probably a match we just do not so much then go up to you the start that's completely inside the money well so I think they else built off she sort themselves out you expect by me to be in the real Madrid will be an interesting proposition under who's in the New York style they get on obviously Manchester City you know you expect the asshole to be there there they're about any other kind of left field shout for you that you think actually maybe the swanals has come from from a bit left field and make a bit of a kind of for eight to the

last stages in terms of my fear is to win the thing I've got between buying an asshole again a lot of that kind of goes down to the to the draw but I was kind of having a look at like the odds like last night and the teams and you know what I think I think in Sir Good's I don't even know when it may any stretch but I think you know maybe get to the to the last the latter stages they've got a decent chance obviously Liverpool play them at the back end of the Lee's stage but so they made some decent signings they obviously over the last couple of years got to a final if you see any finals as well so it's a squad that is kind of well but we've got like a decent you know tell you've got you know a potent forward in in the taram art you know so yeah I was looking at squad I mean it's always a full back I think a quite slow in Italy and might let you down a bit but I think I think they if I was to look at like away from the kind of traditional size that might go near I think I think into my ankle B could be a bit of a lefty or child what's the game on Wednesday night looks like for the first kind of 20 minutes or so I mean you know what you're going to get with us and we only said it it is you know it can't be a tough watch

that could be all the usual antics that you're that you're just so familiar with now when you come up against one of his teams I think if Liverpool were to get an early goal it would be nice set everyone down a little bit and and just maybe change the dynamic of the football match yeah we were too well after about was it six minutes or something last season weren't we and then they managed to close it back and then obviously Van Zagg's close that that had a late on I think did the weird thing is that let's come and get a source of evolved over the last five years I would say I mean somebody only's been there a very long time now but his team is probably quite so unrecognizable from you thinking the one the league in 2014 it's very different now we think about that team they got to the other people finally in Sreid and they in Lisbon and it was it was a really it was hard the midfield was you know three-hard laddule manor and ke here the defence was full of massive fadz who would think nothing of making the studs down your neck if needed to be to stop a goal they would do whatever it takes to to die for it whereas now the shows were a bit more open a bit more football wise you know they go away

and lose three in islands after the way in in Bill Boudon and that just doesn't really feel like the kind of thing that is semi-only team would have done 10 years ago someone up probably now go find a game and say you have to do that that's not very what I don't mean don't mean quite literally don't mean quite literally that's not be quite little of others but it's also stylistically it feels like that's not something they had in them whereas you think the contrarian fair last season they can say to me as well and it maybe they're going back there with you know the San Romero and I can't think but I play a more suited to that football above the Eastern than Christine Romero so you just they're good for ball inside but they're probably one the weaker part one they're the sort of on the cost of part one and part two only I think last year they were part two and I think that's why we played them and very much of it home presumably but it'll be a tough game but at the same time you know with the way the champion is they work now you're going to get a tough home game yeah you're going to get at least one tough away game maybe two tough away games so you just got to just got to ride with it and come out with the three points if you come out

with the three points you make the rest of the group stage so so much easier you think last season we come I think we come forth and we lost two games we lose away we lose away in a stand ball and we lose it out to PS3 and we still get over the line and get the required number of points to come I think that's it wasn't it was tough we came forward yeah I think you're right and so therefore you can sort of make it easy you need I think it was 16 that got top eight left here if you need 30 points from seven games and one of them is at home to sabba we played no we played no blasks are you playing laska where is the playing a launcher home playing you know fan of bats you away where it'll be tough but there's you can fill the rail at home last go in there's no there's no there's no excuses not in some untable to get this done after seven games you get it done after seven games the last game is after it you know six games six and seven are really one of them's between Evan and hello my mind just united the way I think it's worth pointing that out so I'd like to play no one in that midweek if we could just get it done as early as possible when when get the three points on

the board and being in good position it is a letico on Wednesday nice we've now got Miguel Pereda every game day you show up for your team now it's your time ask your prescriber about we govi some maglatide injection 2.4 milligrams a glp one call 183 3 4 we govi or visit we govi.com to view the medication guide and to learn more about we govi why wait this episode is brought to you by state farm no two football players are exactly alike and the same is true off the field that's why state farm gifts to know you so they can help personalize coverage for your life and budget like a good neighbor state farm is there this labor day it lows get up to 45% off select major appliances plus deals on select materials and tools

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yes but the sort of defiance that shows weakness do you do you understand what I mean yeah I completely agree with you and I think it has all to do with the new owners of the club so pletico Madrid was owned by the same family for over 30 years since the early 1990s so they have run the club first Hesos Kili feel which was the former president until he got busted daddy transferred the club to his older son and he has been running the club ever since and it was pretty much a club that understood where they stood they knew they couldn't compete directly with Real Madrid Barcelona budget level capacity of attract great stars so they went to play their game we're going to be the best of the other guys and if they have a poor year we're there to take the opportunity and take the fight to them and it pretty much worked out once they hired Simeone once he brought that DNA that competitive DNA that at that Ducomo Ducomo's lacking he was able to win European trophies he was able to win the Europa League twice he was able to

take into the Champions League final twice and one two league titles which is probably the best period in the history of let Ducomo Ducomo since the 1950s so for that athletic Madrid seems to be on the up down but then they sold the club to a polo which is an investment fund this summer and people were expecting big money coming in finally the moment of a athletic Madrid bringing the players that can have them compete week by week with Real Madrid and with Barcelona and actually competing for winning the Champions League because probably a athletic Madrid alongside Arsenal are the two biggest clubs never to win the Champions League in terms of history in terms of what they mean to two great football nations as England and Spain and this summer was pretty dim in terms of the players they were able to bring in it was a summer very strange because they had the Alvarez affair as you mentioned and they decided not to sell but at the same time they weren't able to bring no one back in so they now have a star player doesn't want to play for them but they don't have a player to replace them if he doesn't play or if he doesn't play good enough and I think

they put themselves into big trouble because it's clear that Alvarez is not going to stay more than the summer it even perhaps the possibility that it lives in the winter market so you just plan your whole season around the player that doesn't want to stay wasn't able to give you the money needed to bring a guy that would make a difference like Alvarez did when he first came in and now you're kind of a stuck in an dilemma and at the same time Real Madrid brought in very good players Barcelona still has very good players in Brock another very good player set and the hands flicking they are performing quite well and you see yourself in the middle of a storm where you don't know where you're going to be but you're probably not going to be in the end side of things with that then look at the side that for instance lined up in the three-nil defeat against Bill Bauer it's a side that's got a fair bit of experience a lot of these names are very recognizable Adam Ollolucman is the sort of player who can be excellent on his day and given the opportunity you can go from there flip sides is there's still the old stage right back Marcus Leventy who

you know Liverpool supporters have seen be excellent at Amfield so they're not a side that are suddenly completely denuded of talent but they are an aging team where the younger players it looks like none of them are ready to carry the mantle in the same way as Lorente as Kokke as a couple of others that have been there that we've seen down the years it's greezman it feels like there's no there's no young heart ready to come and be the next the next thing that that that that that that's come a dream need yeah and they're also struggling side in terms of every single time Siméone makes these sort of changes it takes time to to get to team playing the way wants and usually what has been happening over the last I would say fall to five season is that he takes too long into having the players playing the way that he wants to play so when they really fits on his idea of play we're already in November we're in December so they lose the possibility of

competing in the league but then it opens possibilities on the knockout stages of Champions League when we saw that last year when they got to the semi finals so I think the beginning of the seasons for it let you got been very poor they are trying to understand where they are right now they have in Kangling Lee a new edition is a player who can make stuff happen he have an Alex Bann a player that last year wasn't able to perform as well was injured often but then had very interesting woke up and he came with his confidence reinforced so probably is the one that will take up the mantle of grisman this season but they are still not connecting each other then he brought in new man from sporting who came from a very different league with a very different pace of the game he will probably boss the midfield but will take some time to adapt and like you mentioned the likes of Pablo Vario who has huge potential have not yet stepped in into cock his shoes and if they are not able to do so soon Atlético will suffer in the first months of the season so for a couple like Liverpool or wherever the club has the possibility to bring the game into Atlético this is the right time

the time when they are still finding out who they really want to be this season as part of that then you mentioned a few of those players do you think he will deviate much more tremendous off the back of a particularly heavy defeat but there was consistency and selection from the severe game for instance stretching into this one so are you expecting it to be very close to the side that played against Bilbao yeah expected to be the same I think he's trying to create that idea he understands that the process will take time things against Atlético Bilbao didn't win his way but I think is is connecting with the what he wants to bring in sort of mentality to new players but at the same time they need to have game time they need to be able to get the message in and you can only do that if you get them to play consecutive games as long as you can so I think probably a lockman will play in forward there's a possibility of soreloft playing but I think he will search for the speed of lockman he will play with Juliano on the right his son who has bring the sort of attacking menace from someone who has more grit than than technical quality but it's a

trait well valued by Atlético supporters in Simeon himself of course we're banner coming in from the left with Kangely in the middle trying to connect with Yulman potentially Barrios and then the defensive line is almost secure it will be with your entry on the right obliques of course in goal Probeil who is one of the young kids that is signed last year will probably will take a manchal eventually but he's still trying to find this place and then Romero and on the left side Grimald of course which was one of one of the big signings that they are expecting so much of him probably in terms also set pieces because of one of the best set these takers in La Liga and he will try to exploit that as well in his favor so ultimately you said before but let's be clear Liverpool this is the best time Liverpool could be playing this Atlético Madrid side for them Liverpool themselves are obviously in the middle of a process new manager so it might be a bit of a disjointed game for periods that could be room for both sides to be able to find the way a little bit but Liverpool getting Atlético Madrid as a pop one team full stop good at home good and getting

them game one good yeah exactly and and Irall and knows he may only from his days managing his pain and of course he may only knows Irall so they they really understand one of the understand what they want to put on the pitch but they haven't been able both of them to do exactly what they want at this moment so Atlético will also try to exploit that moment of transition in Liverpool and I think that that will be the great message that Simion will convey to the players we are not at our best moment but neither are they and we are starting something new but we have a base that came from last year with a few additions they are starting a new project altogether with a completely new manager so let's take advantage of it I think Atlético will go to to take advantage of the momentum of Liverpool knowing themselves that their own momentum has them exposed to Liverpool with Liverpool plays at the best of these capacities that they have okay excellent stuff from a girl do check out is many books at this point and I've just discovered there's a new one to come which I'm also very excited about so we'll be talking to him about that in the future as well a huge thank you to him and let's get back over to Ian

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buy a select to walk 20 volt max tool at loaves we have what you need to keep your job moving val of your night 13 plus supplies last selection varies by location silos.com for more details and we are back with the underlight show preview in the us letter code midrid game it's Ian Phil key for in kio still with you and Phil I want to spend the last kind of 10-15 minutes of socials talking about the team and the approach and what you think liberal could like when they land upon Wednesday what do you think the manager might do I think it'd be broadly very similar to the other night to be perfectly honest I don't I don't see any real need for mass changes I think there's five days off with it I think the truth of the fact that it's a Wednesday game creates this weird psychological thing where you think we played in the weekend but if you played Monday and Saturday which is the exact it's the same if it no yes think that Monday and Saturday is the same gap I did that last week and it's like I couldn't count that couldn't count that I couldn't count stop losing the ability to come so far honestly yeah you wouldn't think about like I've got to change this team but

when it's a Wednesday night game you think about it a bit differently and I think Liverpool can just go out here and pick whatever team they want and you've got probably a little soft the game on Saturday soft's not the right words are premier league game and it'll be hard but you can probably think of a world where you're all I play in the frimpong at right back again to full of marriage you wouldn't be okay with them playing it as that letter come a dread and you can play a ralco at right back and you can possibly then play a ralco at centre back on Saturday and take jackay out and there's all kinds of there's all kinds of little things you can do on Saturday that make tomorrow's team probably a little bit a little bit easier in some respects I think I would expect broadly the same it might be that Gravenbick comes in for sub-ozl i or Gravenbick comes in for Muayn Yaz and sub-ozl i-plays a bit further forwards and wides I wish I'm sure you'd be fine I was watching the quotes sort of fun like there is a little bit of flexibility within this in terms of what you're doing ultimately I don't think it'll be massively different from Friday whereas I think it'll probably be a bit more different from Saturday. Phil and I were talking on the

pre-match warm-up to whip switchkey for about a rojo and it almost felt like before you'd see them kind of get selected for that match you feel like he was nailed on for this one just given his obviously his history he knows the team it feels like he's a bit of a wild-eal fox himself understands when to kind of you know play the game a little bit he just feels like someone who impressed a portman road and therefore you wouldn't really want to change it. Yeah and absolutely I think I think he was lively was an ease very full-boded you know you talked Phil said before about Romero playing for flotica would you have been a very athletic player I think you could probably say a rojo is the same as an a you could see him fitting into a semi-only team but now I've been really impressed with him I think you know one that when the signing was made it was a lot of people like maybe scratching their heads initially like you know this is a you know if he's out of favourite Barcelona what kind of why are we going to bring him here but you know clearly they've identified something and they've obviously identified that versatility as well you know come play it right back come play at a centre-off as well maybe taking that takes that pressure a bit of Joe Gomez obviously just thought that he'll be back in training this week but there's not

kind of a immediate rush to bring him back in you can maybe let his body recover fully which maybe something he hasn't had the ability to do over the last couple of years so you know I've been I've been really impressed with myself so it's hard to adapt to the Premier League at the moment I think if I'm looking ahead to the flotica game I'll definitely keep him in I think you know look at where athletic goes threats are going to come from and it's probably the the wide players obviously you've got semi-only on one side and you've got look him on the other and I just think if you had frame pung there I think there's maybe a chance that you might leave some space in behind and maybe you get punished that way so I think the game at home on Saturday against Fulham is a far more nice again to do a bit of rotation maybe bring frame pung and you're going to have more of the ball you know Fulham on in a great space themselves at a moment so I think you know if it was me I'd be looking to to pick the same team and hopefully you get to a stage where it gets to the hour mark or you know a bit after and you can start to make a few changes you may be bringing barcola on maybe take jack hay off you know maybe do frame pung there a few goals up but I think because it's the first the manager's you know first match at Amfield so first time was the match at Amfield you know you want to be

as I said before you want to be sticking off that first when it's soon as possible so I don't think he'll be wanting to make major changes after back off Friday night he was obviously really happy with what he saw and it felt like there was a bit more balancing that team than I had been in the previous week so I think he's got every reason to kind of stick with that. I suppose the only risk here of playing Noola since it has well the three they've got a available so there's no one on the bench and obviously one does get injured because you're playing all three then it does leave you a little bit hamstrong potentially for what's to come you know Leon is not quite back yet you know keep his mission Joe Gomez he's not quite back in in full team training we don't think the manager's going to do a press conference actually not long after after we wrap up here it seems to what you've heard from the boys there anything hugely different so what you'd like to say on Wednesday. I'll discuss that but I probably pull back on in the team and it's the Deora Pink up he's the main man it looks sharp when he come on it looks sharp it looks really really sharp and you know if you're going to pay the big money to players you pay in them to two times when they're big competitions and well he might be in a situation where his

fitness is not right and I haven't got the heart of it and monitor and I don't really care about the heart of it and monitor and I just want to see how it works. I wouldn't expect his what have he even been told he wants and even if it did that would be really good. I don't know if it's going to be serious. I don't know all 50 years I don't know where the reason he didn't start if it was because the Montatame he's been here whether it was to do a fitness level. He's another preseason the manager said in terms of games he's just trained in terms of games yet but come on like he looks sharp he looks good enough and I'll be starting him and maybe pull them off on the on the on the awama or maybe something like that so yeah let's get him on let's get him in the side let's get him a goal and that's just doing the cabalich scores and then the whole of Anfields singing his name straight away I'm getting excited they're keeping. That midfield filled obviously you get Suboslai and McAllister as a bit of a two-year-old grabbing a mix on the bench against Ipswich you think that's where the manager is now is now London you know I mentioned the Suboslai quotes in jest before but he has done that piece with Stephen Gerard where he just

talked about they had a conversation in the summer and he doesn't want to play right back and the manager kind of made that pretty clear to him but did say you know the maybe times in an emergency and those times he arrived pretty quickly you know Suboslai did have to cover there only the other week do you think he will try and persevere with that too or do you see a scenario where the mix of boss like does gets shifted around it he also made the comments about not wanting to play on that right answer it was almost like that was a worse option than playing full back which I found a found interesting I mean I think you do you a decent job there because I think Liverpool are still going to have games where maybe they look a little bit uncertain in that in that sense of the picture just because of the makeup of the footballers yeah I think it's one of those where you sort of forget it's a squad game at insulin respects and the amount of football you have it's not going to be situation where it's just like well we're going to play these two and it's these two these two for everything for example of that you know the old famous thing about the 2019 Champions League final team that was the first time it ever started the

game football together or the only time or whatever I kind of quite specifically what it was but it was like these don't play together that much and it was what you would do for said Liverpool's category of best team was at the time so the idea of you know having your best team and sticking with it's probably just something that we overrate as a concept I think and you'll there'll be games when it's Macaulastin and Gravenberg there'll be a game when it's Macaulastin and Shamoslai there'll be games when it's you know Shamoslai and Gravenberg there'll be all kinds of different combinations there will probably be the odd game where it's the three of them it wouldn't shock me if this was where the three of them did actually play together I think you then sort of look at it and go full arms on Saturday but then maybe we're overrate in the concept of rotation but do you think they're it's a boop yeah it could play no but you could play a month you could play on the on the left if you go in the three centre if you go with the sort of third centre back at right back you can probably play you'll back a little bit higher and that's consort of tucking sides a bit more and there's didn't you know we had a little ball back all of them yeah no I don't know I agree with you completely I'm just hypothesized I'm on what we caught to I think we're sure of

the the following game is obviously followed by a midweekly cook game where this going to be wholesale changes it's not like you have to keep people fresh for that because you can say to some players you're not even coming the ground on and Wednesday and Tuesday night against like he's taught them so you can sort of manage it that way and it just there's low ultimately we've got a lot of options I think the squad has been talked down a fair bit it's not perfect it's got gaps in it that you would like us to fill over the long term there's gaps in it that you would have ideally had us fill you know two weeks ago but we haven't and we are where we are but it doesn't mean that we're in terrible shape we've still got you know some really good players who are capable of doing really good jobs and you just have to fit about with them and it's the at the manager Bill may have got face the manager will make it work so whatever what ever team he picks I think you can have real confidence that it's going to be all right on this sorry sorry if you're on this or was lighting I think it's fair and to have a conversation with your manager especially in your manager about your preferred position I think if you negotiate in the contract as well it's

fair to say look long time I see myself as a as a number eight for this club a leader at a midfield the but and to big but I'm not in to coming out and saying that I don't want to play right back I'm not into any Liverpool player now we honestly you're saying that I don't want to play here I don't want to play there now you may you can have a preference but the player who war is number and played anywhere on that pitch and one Liverpool games in your the pink or finals for right back you played as a striker you played as a right winger you play where that and if you've got the ability and the reason this is this this conversation exists around so it's like because you can do it and you can you can play right back and you probably be one of the best right backs in the league you get you play where you're told and you play where where we need you and if injury happens such words to Ronald Rao and we're looking at the right back situation and we don't want to quite play flim pong because you might play against Foulam on Saturday then you play in the

nail at the end and you're going to enjoy because you're playing because you're playing for Liverpool and I think it's I think it's a bit of a problem because it's luckily Ronald Rao don't really really really well there but there was y'all had a conversation on gutters and on other shows about we hasn't played loads of right back people that this idea in the ed there is a centre back in a right back he's played handful against it right back for Barcelona but luckily for Liverpool then he he come in and he looked really really strong and he probably played there but on the sub-wise lighting I mean it's very dangerous to be saying I don't want to play in positions and if a manager is making a selection based on players preference then that's going to be an issue yeah just put a bit of clarity I've not seen the fall interview I've just seen the quote but I know I know Keith has kind of you watched the interview I've been doing stuff I think to be fair to him he did say he would play a full bucket of kind of Preston to serve as part of the admit it clear that he really preferred which was you know as an eight or a ten now you might find that difficult given how Liverpool are structurally set up with them in I think the ten thing could be interesting

because I know he's on a typical number ten and I know Neil's being kind of really clear on this on on shows doesn't seem really as a as maybe a ten and I understand why because he's not that type of play you know we mentioned Cherokee before there to know people who are threading balls through but I think if you've got wide footballers who are servicing you number nine I can see so boss they do know okay at times you put him as a ten because he's got the shooting ability to to get in and around the box and get shot off and be a bit of a menace and if you get his Preston right and that can sometimes be a bit a bit odd so boss lives pressing he there's a lot of there's a lot of effort and it feels like it's not quite as cold and he's as you'd want it but if you can get that right I can see him doing a really good job of times if you had to press him into that ten roll and he is clear that he doesn't aren't playing there likes playing there likes the eight we've seen him lots in the in the double pivot keeper you know how would you assess kind of you know him so far where he's up to some of the comments that you've you've course as well that interview with Stephen Jenner yeah no I was gonna say the same as Keir really just in terms of I'm not a fan of it and especially when you know you've got a manager there has

only been there a couple of weeks and you still trying to you know he's clearly been so sure in the in the transfer market in terms of you know what he probably when he took the job out of a list of of positions and and and maybe targets he would he would have liked and the fact that you know look we'll have an kind of not backed him sufficiently but I think one of window opened we kind of all thought a lot of fun either five six players he obviously didn't do that in the end so they are going to have to make ends meets in kind of in other ways and and doing that might be playing subos like here might playing him there but I just think to come out you know three or four weeks into the seasons say or by the way I'm not all for playing here I just I'm just not a huge fan of it especially one you know he's just been appointed as one of the vice captains I just don't think it it's a it's set set you know a really good example I think if subos I want to play midfield you also play number eight and that's where he sees himself well that's the challenge for him that is to produce performance is where he becomes one of the first names on a team sheet and you know he becomes undropable I mean he had the the two starts in in the number eight and this season as an eight or three sorry but you know against Faris I didn't think he was great I think

there's a tendency sometimes when he was just getting to those final three positions he hangs on to the ball for too long there's a lot of pondering in possession I think sometimes my calisthen can be a bit crisper with the ball Graven Birch if you look at his skill set I think he's able to kind of you know he's a bit more he kind of slaloms with the ball a bit doesn't he can bring up the field yeah and he's you know he's really good taking the ball off the defenders and making space in that way so I think you know you're looking at the three midfielders and saying what each of them have kind of a different skill set but you know subos as I'm not sure if it is suited for a number eight long term but as I say he signed a new contract he's always been you know paid a good amount the club of pot faith in him and I just think to come out so soon to the season be like by the way I mean he's not soft he knows what he's doing in that interview he knows doing it and interviewed Stephen Gerard is gonna is gonna do numbers is gonna be heard around the world so I just wasn't too keen on it but as I say you know that's his challenge now to to go and make himself the first choice number eight for Liverpool because that's how he wants to play I think actually you know when it was one you know looking at Liverpool squad and so I thought you could see

a world and way it does do a bit of stuff on the right I think you know if you're looking at how to get the best out of Alexander E sack you know what do you have a new cast so he had Jacob Murphy crossing the ball in two minutes and Dr. Tony's boss that's a better player than Jacob Murphy but you know right side it a right footed crosser from the right hand side is clear something that as as works for you second the past I think he could could work for Liverpool again here but yeah I think he's a weird one so I was like because he has got the he has got kind of the raw the raw talent and and kind of the tools that he would kind of pick you know he's he's athletic he's got a good shot on him but I just think sometimes when you try and blend it all together it doesn't quite come together as a finished product as you'd expect and some people probably look for a fine thank you scores all these goals and all these free kicks you know you must be Liverpool's best player and stuff but goals in the system always translate to kind of full performance and especially when you are playing you know you want to be playing 90 minutes in midfield you've I think you've got to have other areas of your game you know you can score three or four goals but if you're not great the defensive side of the game or pressing on under a magic like it really all that it's going to cause problems so yeah I think you know

he's got a challenge on his hands but you know I'd rather him do his talking on the pitch then kind of you know doing the interview and say I'm not playing here or there Phil just on Isaac I think you know we talked before about that and you know those those things were you see a good game you see performance and he wanted to be backed up with another one I think for Alexander Isaac now having had the performance he had against the switch on Friday night two brilliant goals it wouldn't have helped if you could just almost cement that with it with another one you feel like because he got taken off he will get a large chunk of this game as well maybe they'll assess it ahead of fallen but I think the whole point of that 60 minutes was well you can go again against that let's go we can go again against fallen and then we'll have a little look at it but I think getting him fit and far and you know it just feels ever so important to put on a really really good season and you just start to see glimpses that he's coming to the party and if he does then you know got help everyone because he has a hell of a number now yeah you think about a total start of

all sort of flying into the flying into the international breaking which is called back to back games which is called a game style let's go and then he's got against the full one which you know two home games you'd like to think I mean the way full of them have been sort of open wide and coming on there I don't mean I'm digressing massively but something's not right there is it exactly but that gives him the opportunity Saturday I think he could score two or three on Saturday score against that let's go all of a sudden you've scored you know five six seven goals and in four games and you're like oh take what this is this is good and it's just head to forward a scoring goals and then he's full of confidence he's full of beans and I don't know who's reading a plane over the international break but there's a genuine chance to play in someone absolutely they might be playing Lithuanian or something where he could score three or four goals again and all of a sudden you've got to fail a comment back who's 10 foot tall into a very busy path this is a lot of form great form great ability and you know by that by sort of the point where he comes back to the international break back or be fully ready to go moving us all have had another month of Liverpool you know Gachpur might have gone away on international duty and

does he does an international duty all of a sudden you're looking a bit like oh this attack looks fantastic and ESAC four beans and Liverpool are creating things and everything just suddenly feels good just because you've got a striker who was putting the ball on the back of the net and no Liverpool's you know X-G was one the other day but the game was done after 10 minutes and if you have the ability to end the game inside 10 minutes that's massive for everyone's you know everyone's well being I was thinking that when you said that then you know for the ECGs exactly you watch that game basically that second goal goes in the other night and you're like well that's the game don't get on the coach let's go for the paint the game done more of that more of that and that's what a really good striker and it is a bit weird that we haven't we've had goalscores but we haven't had a proper number nine standing the penalty box and kicked the goal kicked the ball in the goal since I mean to add a storage to an extent maybe Sparas but even then they were more creative well harder as goalscores he never felt like a was a nine a genuine nine even though he's

I mean he's basal was top like fair the ever goalscores or was stupid isn't he and he still doesn't feel like back time to play and I mean so it's probably like Torres where you're looking at and going this fellas got goals he's going to do the goals and that is massive like from a just make your feet make there's not more fun than watching a number nine score goals from Liverpool I don't I'm very excited by it and we had the conversation about we it's the same things going on that I was under he's a sync critics the same vultures are sigling every time he plays wanting to see goals and he's answered so far the season I think he's I think he's played I think he's played I said all right against Newcastle East against forest and then he scores scores two in ten minutes exactly what we want from from a striker two goals early on game dead Liverpool control and so it gave him a little bit of time as well and I know it's all like to say time time time the people listen to this coming up and 100 million we give him time as you just said they could be in a position in a few weeks we've got one of the most informed strikers in the league so that's just like give him a couple of weeks given given given the game on Wednesday given given the weekends

against forum all of a sudden you could be could be all be sat here going this is exactly what we wanted exactly what we wanted it's just go I was just about to just go as a show confidence doesn't it I mean he's a you know 125 million pound striker but you know soon he scores that first goal he doesn't score the second goal without scoring the first goal you know just kind of the way the ball kind of comes into him the he sources feet out he took off his cells at offender and the goalkeeper but like that's just shows what confidence can breed even for like a leap players you know someone who someone that Alexander East that way it finishes comes so natural to him even that first goal seems to do huge for him his movement and even the the goal that gets ruled out I mean it's really good moving I mean he's a yard you know well he's very close to being on side isn't it but in terms of like what you'd want to see from a number nine peering away from the defender and finishing first time that's exactly what you want to see so yeah it's been it's been a great start for you second I mean I was one of those where at times I see something in his is this is going to work but and the end to fail even on like the opening day against Nukasa thought you know he he looked he just didn't look right at all did he but it might almost favor him that he got that game out the way so really that was probably on his fixture list the hardest game he's

going to play this season just given the circumstances the fact he's now got out of the way and every game's going to be should be easier for him kind of emotionally and I'm on paper and stuff like that you know I think it would it would you know well to go for his confidence give me a prediction Wednesday night uh three one Liverpool two new Liverpool build it's funny because I was going to say three one thought in me add you know when you got like a three one and then it's like you read my mind I said the same thing at the exact same time I hit my mind so I think three one as well yeah three one as well how about you he I think I think well I'd you two one I think it'll be a two big day tight game but it'll be a good game is that is the you winning in there is that one one then Liverpool score for two one two one but they were they were like no meaning Liverpool going to score the winner there is it going to be one one then we get a winner or you may two two you know that they score yeah I see you want to see I see you I know what no I think I think Liverpool will um yeah it'll score first let's go pulling back and then the Liverpool go winner I'm just in with a back look oh yeah yeah I can tell he banging through it all right I'm into it as well that has been under the lights uh live uh on this occasion I hope you enjoyed it we'll see you

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