More Clancy Jurors Speak Out! Taylor's Bachelorette Spoilers & Brandi Glanville Scary Health Update

0:00Well, you just can't shut them up. We got another jurid that is speaking out after the Lindsey Clancy mistrial. Taylor Frankie Paul looks like we're not gonna be getting the bachelor at any time soon. Secret lives of Mormon wives has just aired and they're dropping all sorts of bachelor spoilers plus Brandy Glendale. It's got a scary health update. She's got something living in her face on the what it is. And I'm not sure I like it, but we're gonna get into it. Let's dive in. This is no filter with Zach Peter. Your go-to source for all the latest pop culture and reality TVT, SirFresh, all week long. Now, let's dive in. Oh, hold on, guys. Sorry. Uno momento. Um, that work. Boom. There we go. No more echo.

1:00Sorry. I need to get rid of the old mic. Cord, because I just have a habit of plugging in the old mic. Sometimes I just need to completely disregard it. So I don't see it anymore. There we go. There we are. Okay. Hi, guys. What's the going on? Everybody in the club? Hi, Laura. Hi, Christina. Our lovely mods are in the live chat, making sure you guys are behaving, be hyping. All right. Please keep leaving your Apple Podcast reviews so I can give you a shout out on the show tomorrow, Friday. Friday shout out. Be sure to leave a review on Apple Podcast. Leave one today. Today. All right. Last again, and to was up everybody in the club, it is Thursday, September 10th. Ho. Tomorrow is September 11th. We must never forget 9.11.

2:02We'll honor those who lost their lives on 9.11. That will be tomorrow. But I'm starting to see people starting to do different tributes online. And I'm glad that we are still remembering what happened on 9.11. We must not forget. I know that was, thankfully, it's been over 20 years, which is crazy. But I'm glad that we are still keeping those people's memories alive. OK. What shall we dive into? Should we get into the clancy of it all? The lens of clancy. Because the clansi are going crazy. The clansis are not vibing because they're not happy that Reddington and the jurors are really all kind of coming to Patrick Clancy's defense. So they're not happy that their whole loan narrative is falling apart. Since now, I mean, I played the clip yesterday. Kevin Reddington has really just like flat out defended Patrick Clancy. So all of those details about the timeline doesn't make sense. And it doesn't make sense. And the investigation is insufficient. And they didn't investigate Patrick.

3:03And this is all based off of Patrick said, like all of your cute little TikTok tag lines are all falling apart. And it's actually embarrassing if you're still committed to that plot. So just at this point, give it a rest. And let's see what comes of this clancy case. I don't know if it's going to go to another trial. I'm actually, I can kind of see that maybe it could likely go to a plea deal to avoid a second trial. I think a second trial will be very challenging. It's also strange that it looks like this jury was really just like not sequestered at all. And I guess even had access to their phones during deliberations, which to me is wild that they were able to go on their phones. And now it kind of like makes sense why some of them turned out to be such clansies, such Ku Klux clansies, just like really rallying for Lindsay, which was kind of weird. We'll get into that. Because there was one attorney who are a few attorneys that have been breaking it down really well about everything that's unfolded.

4:05And I don't know what would the plea deal be. Well, we don't know. I mean, there are a few different options. They could reduce the sentence from first degree to second degree, possibly to manslaughter. I doubt that they're going to let her get off by not guilty by reason of insanity. Molly says, how can you not sequester a jury when it's a public trial? I don't think anybody expected the trial to blow up the way that it did and to get the recognition that it's gotten. So I feel like, but at some point, especially in deliberations, like, how do you still give them access to their phones? One of the jurors who came out, one of the three gentlemen jurors, he's come out. And he says that he's telling a story of the holdout juror and basically saying that the holdout juror was on his phone during certain parts of deliberations. Because he was like, no, I'm not changing my vote. My vote is guilty. We don't know what his vote was if it was like first degree a second to remand slaughter. I would assume that this juror was very hell-bent on first degree murder. Again, as I've said repeatedly, I would probably

5:06lean more second degree. I think that maybe if there is an additional trial or a second trial that maybe the charge would be reduced to second degree, I think that could be. We could see some meeting somewhere in the middle. But let's play this clip from this. So we had the three Ku Klux Klanseys that came out of the jury pool yesterday. Then there was the one anonymous juror. We listened to both of their interviews yesterday. And so now we have a fourth juror. This is one of the three gentlemen jurors. And he sat down with ABC News. And his name is Nick. And this is what Nick had to say. Let's pull up Nick's interview. And we can react. This is what Nick had to say. Just in tonight, the ABC News exclusive, Aaron Kutursky, one-on-one, with one of the jurors and the Lindsey Klancy murder trial outside Boston. 25-year-old Nick Dargy and what he now reveals about what played out in that jury room with the lone holdout juror and the note they sent to the judge saying they were deadlocked.

6:07Let's get right to Aaron Kutursky, who just finished up the interview. Aaron, what did you learn? David Nick Dargy was one of three men on the jury that deadlocked in the trial of Lindsey Klancy. He was serving in the military and overseas when Klancy killed her children. So he came into the case cold, not knowing anything about it, then had to sit through that harrowing trial. And about that holdout juror, he told us he never got an explanation as to why he refused to budge from his visit. Did you decide how long he was going to stay? Take me inside the deliberation room. There was several times I would ask him to show us what evidence or describe a witness testimony that helped to prove what he was saying, and he couldn't. There was a single piece of evidence or witness testimony that he used to prove why he was thinking the way it was, which is why we ultimately sent in that note. Otherwise, there's nothing wrong with somebody having a completely opposite opinion.

7:07That would be a hum jury. That is our justice system. After the trial, when Nick turned on his phone and became aware of just how divided the country was over this case, he saw the conspiracy theories about Lindsey Klancy's ex-husband, Patrick, and the falsehood that he had something to do with killing his children. He said if people had heard that 911 called David, they'd never believe it. Eric Coutursky, just finished this interview tonight, Aaron. Thank you, the full interview airs tomorrow morning right here on Good Morning America. So interesting. Weird that he said that they didn't know what the reaction was until they looked at their phones after the trial, but yet in the same interview, this juror talks about how that holds out juror at one point was just on his phone and not engaging with the other 11. I don't find that surprising. I feel like they're making him seem unreasonable. But when you have 11 people that are all on one side and they're just trying to badger you to sway your opinion, at some point, you do shut down.

8:08And you're just like, I don't need to defend myself to you. I know what I feel. I know why I feel it. And I don't need to engage in this any further. This is where I stand. And after several days of deliberations, he doesn't need to really explain himself to the other jurors. He just needs to cast his vote. And it seems like his vote was a verdict of guilty. And it didn't seem. And it's so crazy because so many of them have described now, like, oh, he just couldn't get past how viciously she murdered her children. And it's like, well, yeah, actually here, I want to play this video for you because this woman actually lays it down pretty well. She kind of gives a little additional context. She is an attorney on TikTok. Yours on the Lindsey Clancy case have been speaking out in interviews about how they landed where they did. And what? And her just to give her a shout out, you can see it on the screen for those listening to the audio.

9:09Her account on TikTok is hacking happiness, ESQ. And so this is her take on whether or not she believes any of the jurors were following the lock. Is right, there's this conversation about this. One, hold out, juror, wasn't following the law when it came to reasonables out, which, first of all, we haven't heard his side of the story. We don't know if he did believe, like I've always said, in his defense until we hear from him and really understand where his mindset was. And it doesn't look like he's giving any exclusives any time soon, like all these other jurors are out here giving all their interviews. I just think it's possible that he was convinced the prosecution made their case and convinced him that she was of sound mind at the time that she committed these murders. To me, she seemed like she was of sound mind. Okay, there was so much premeditation. There was planning from sending Patrick out on errands to googling the route to find out how long he could potentially be gone,

10:09to waiting until he was gone to actually strangle the three children, to strangle them systematically one by one, taking them into different parts of the basements of the day. They didn't see each other, making sure the children were turned away from her so that they didn't see their mother doing this to them. Having this suicide attempt and then furthermore, when she was in the hospital and she woke up and she asked for an attorney, all of those things show premeditation. You don't even need tons of expert witnesses. If you lay that case out to me, to me, that is premeditation. Sorry, it just is. That's not to say she couldn't have been struggling with postpartum. People think I'm so insensitive to postpartum and that's such an ass-and-eye intake and it actually pisses me off when people really try to dismiss me as trying to be dismissive of postpartum and postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. That can be a factor and that can be a layer. However, the steps that she went through as I described on yesterday's show where we compared the woman who went through

11:11postpartum psychosis and really had a full-on snap to me, this was too systematic, right? And I understand that psychosis can show up in different ways, but none of the experts testified that she met the criteria of somebody that was going through psychosis because she was suddenly hearing voices. So she only heard voices when her husband happened to leave and then they suddenly, you know, no longer the voices are there and then she wakes up and doesn't remember being in the state of psychosis, but immediately asks for an attorney when she wakes up in the hospital. That to me says you have a level of awareness that you did something wrong. So sorry, gonna stand with that lone juror here and say that's enough information for me to determine that there was premeditation, okay? Sorry, not sorry, that to me is planned out systematic premeditated. That's not to say that there weren't mental issues that worry factor, but this is where we're at, right? She did not meet the criteria for somebody

12:13that was in postpartum psychosis. There we go. To me, there was too much planning. It was too systematic from sending Patrick out having a level of awareness. She didn't just snap. It wasn't a detachment from reality because clearly when she woke up in the hospital, she was still in reality. So let's watch this woman's video because I think she makes a really good point in regard to the other 11 jurors. I concluded from the interview that I saw with the three women jurors is that there were multiple people who could not follow the judge's instructions, including those three women. So first they talked a lot about the lack of character evidence, the fact that nobody had a bad thing to say about Lindsay prior to her committing these crimes. It should seem to be a good mom, et cetera. I mean, how many serial killers have we known that were charming? I mean, Jeffrey Dahmer was able to pick up dudes at a gay bar. And they said obviously the fact that she was a good person and then she committed this crime must mean

13:13that she was mentally ill. And that's actually not the test. That's not the test that you are given. You cannot take someone's lack of character trait and use that to infer a mental state. They were asked a very specific question and given very specific legal definitions and to suggest that well, she was a good person. So there's nothing else to explain this. It just doesn't work that way. And I would argue there are a lot of people in jail right now who are first time offenders, good people who make bad choices. And it doesn't appear that they were weighing the evidence presented, but rather drawing their own conclusions and judgments and replacing the legal test and definitions for their own illogical conclusions. Secondly, there was conversation about nurses on the jury and how the nurses were answering questions and providing explanations or information about medications and toxicology reports. And this is a big flaming red flag

14:15because jurors cannot bring in their own expertise, their own specialized knowledge, and use that to influence the deliberations. They can only use the evidence that was presented and the expert testimony that was introduced at the trial. They didn't say specifically what these nurses said. So I can't say with any specificity myself, but what I do know is that it was, again, talked about in the context of trying to reason with this seemingly unreasonable juror and trying to get them to move over to their side. And if that's the case, and this nurse was using her own medical knowledge to make explanations or to try to sway this juror in any particular way, that's a big no-no. Third, there was a lot of conversation about how these jurors felt about the lawyers personally. And while they did say that... Well, before we, I just wanna piggyback off that last point

15:15that she was claiming, you can only go based off of the evidence and the experts that are presented at the trial. And this is where it gets a little murky, right? Because when you're going through jury selection, naturally they ask you questions of like, you know, what do you do for a living? Can you be unbiased? Like they really try to decipher and make sure they have a jury of their peers that they like, right, that they don't think is going to be biased towards their client or biased to the prosecution, right? That's somebody that's gonna sit in the middle and really look at everything objectively. But the fact that these women in an attempt to try and get this holds out juror to sway his opinion, it seems like, I mean, that to me feels like coercion, right? You're really trying to influence this juror to come on to your side and you're using your own expertise from outside of the courtroom to now suddenly you're gonna be an expert witness here. This is my issue with all of these other, you know, experts online that people give credence to. That's not to say that their opinions are invalid, right?

16:17Their opinions can add context, but we have to remember their opinions are not valid in that court of law because their opinions are not the expert testimonies that were being presented by either the defense or the prosecution during this trial specifically. So the fact that these women are using their own experiences to provide, you know, their own testimony to try and sway this juror, again, that to me is a seemingly coercion and that's where I see that juror shutting down and be like, no, I'm not gonna engage in this conversation. I don't care. Sure, I understand you have reasonable doubt. I understand to you that is reasonable doubt, not to me and standing firm in that decision, right? Now we're gonna move on to how they felt about the prosecution and Reddington. Their personal feelings about them did not factor into their deliberations. I just have a really hard time believing that because the feelings that they shared were not feelings of ambivalence. They didn't have lukewarm feelings

17:19about the attorneys. They felt very strongly and they said things specifically about the prosecutors' life. They had no heart. They were biased. They were unprofessional. Imagine that. The prosecution is biased against the baby killer that they're trying to put behind bars. I'm sorry. I think the prosecution's gonna be a little biased because they're making a case against the woman that strangled her three babies, okay? Baby killer. They were harsh. They didn't have any compassion. And they said that. Sorry, there's no compassion for the woman that strangled the life out of her own children. From the first sentence, like from day one, they felt this way about the prosecutors. And right away, when you say, well, this person isn't showing compassion, underneath that is the assumption that you believe this person deserves compassion, that this person deserves some level of warmth and sympathy, which tells me that you're not coming in as a neutral observer in all of this.

18:20Exactly. You are coming in with a point of view. And I do think that regardless of what they say, if they really felt that way, that it probably colored the lens through which they received the information and through which they took in the evidence that the prosecutor presented. On the other hand, they had a lot of nice things to say about Kevin Reddington about how he was entertaining, how at times they couldn't even stop themselves from laughing, panties for Reddington. At some of the things that he said, they did call him arrogant at times, but they didn't hold that against him. And they didn't hold the fact that he was biased toward his client, obviously, as every lawyer is. Hello, suddenly we pick and choose when we allow bias and don't allow, the prosecution was biased against her, but Reddington was not biased against her. Like, what, like, are we, did you just fall out of a fucking coconut tree against him? Either they said that his compassion toward her was amazing. Meanwhile, the lack of compassion on the prosecutor's side, which is obvious and to be expected,

19:21and they did acknowledge that to some degree, but they still used it against the prosecutor, and I just think that's unfair. They also talked about the medical system failing Lindsay, and I think this speaks to the masterful job that Kevin Reddington did in distracting from the real issue, because while that could be true, or could not be true, you could agree or disagree with that statement, that wasn't the issue at trial. The issue was her mental state at the time of committing these crimes, and the fact that these jurors were even thinking about that tells me that they had other considerations beyond just the evidence of the crime committed in mind. Now, was a mistrial the best outcome? I don't know. I mean, now people are in limbo, we might have to go through this all over again, but I do think it was probably the right outcome, because it's very clear to me that at least some of these jurors couldn't put aside their emotions to be the objective, neutral fact finders

20:21that they were called to be. And with that, I rest my coverage of this case. My only hope from here on out is that everybody gets the type of peace and closure that they deserve. Right. A few things, and the reason I play this clip is not necessarily, I mean, yes, I'm trying to make a point, but the bigger point that I'm trying to make is jurors are bias, and jurors have emotions. And as much as they're supposed to be objective, they're going to have their own lens that they view things through. Right. So the same judgments that people have for the loan juror, the standout juror, or sorry, the holdout juror, is the same exact criticism you can have for the other 11 jurors. Right. They're allowed to have those differences of opinion. And if the holdout juror really was breaking the law, the judge would have removed him, but the judge didn't remove him as Reddington was requesting.

21:21That's a reason you have alternate jurors. So that holdout juror had every right to stand firm in his decision. He did not owe the other 11 jurors an explanation. All he needed to do was know why he stood by what he stood by. And if he can acknowledge that they had reasonable doubt, and they're explaining to him what their perception of the reasonable doubt is, or their examples of reasonable doubt, he can absolutely be like, yes, I see where you're coming from. I see you're reasonable that I see that there is in your mind, reasonable doubt. And he can still stay firm in his position and believe that she did this in the right mind. Again, for me, I can clearly look at what was presented and be like, it appeared premeditated to me. I didn't even need a ton of expert testimony. I didn't need additional pieces of evidence. To me, that outline alone of what she did shows to me.

22:22She was aware, and there was a level of cognizance that she had, that to me shows premeditation, and that's why. And factoring in that, you know, the defense did a really good job of presenting the mental health element of it. Factoring that in, I would say guilty second degree murder. Right, because to me, that factors in mental health while also holding her accountable for strangling the life out of her three innocent children. So yeah, he's allowed to have that opinion. He's allowed to stay firm in that. He did not break any laws because if he did, Reddington would have gotten his motion passed and the juror would have been replaced with one of the alternates that did not happen. So if you want to say he was emotional, so were the other 11. Those three cackling hands in the air in their interview were a perfect example of that. As they were out there being like, oh my god, Reddington was so good panties for Reddington, like they were practically getting wet on television for fucking Reddington, which is insane

23:22that you're a fan girling over a criminal defense attorney that's defending a woman that strangled the life out of her three children, okay? It's a little Kuku Magu, okay? Kuku for Coco Puffs. You can think he's a great lawyer and he did a great job, but the way that they were fan girling over him and being like, oh my god, he was so funny. I just couldn't help myself from laughing. I'm just like, are you kidding me? Like it's actually wild. But again, shows their own biases because a jury is not a robot, right? And the jury members, as much as they try to be objective, they're not always going to be fully objective to the point where they don't allow their own experiences and lived life experience to color how they viewed these cases. And that's fair. I think the jury should have been sequestered. I think the jury should not have had access to their phones. I think that was a huge miss. And I don't know what a second jury's going to look like because you're going to have a lot of people that have been exposed to the details of this trial.

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29:30Dene. Dene. Dene. Dene. Not. It's heads says once again, the jury is allowed to have doubt. The instruction is not beyond all doubt, but beyond reasonable doubt. If people leave the prosecution proved she knew right from wrong, his vote was okay. Thank you, somebody with the brain. If I only had a brain, we have lots of scarecrow, we have a Clancy scarecrow's. If I only had a brain. So I'm glad you still have one. All right. Let's talk. I guess let's talk brandy Glanville. She's been posting some crazy videos. There's one of them that she posted on the tickety talk. Brandy Glanville alum a reality TV star alum from the real house is a Beverly Hills. She previously was married to Eddie Sibrian soap actor. He left her. He cheated. He left her for Lee and Rhymes. They're still together. This is X, Y formerly real house is a Beverly Hills brand Glanville.

30:31It is a line that goes like this in here. And then it goes down here. And there's a pouch here. And it goes back to the shoulder. You still only be here. But over the years it's not being diagnosed properly. It is right now it goes down my right arm, which like over I have to do this all day long. I see. This is the whole thing. It's hard as a rock. And it curves like this. I can't even like, I really just, I'm so sick. I just want to come down my face. Hi guys, I have a really fucked up brush on my face. Not a real mouth on the left side very well. It did this last time. It was actually your last time. This is the exact line where the problem is on the inside of my mouth. So, I can literally do a map. It goes up here.

31:31It goes right here. Here, here, here. And then there's a slowly pouch here. It also goes, it starts over here. I mean, it eats on the horses. I mean, pumpkin seeds. See where I'm eating the tapweed. I have coconut oil all of them because I put it on. I mean, this is like living here. I want to just cut it open. That white sickle right there, that's right where she lives. Come on, get up, please. I don't know how to feel about this. Like, it's, I mean, I, for the longest time, I thought that she was kind of just like imagining it. And she had like, munch house in. I don't know, like, I can do that too. Look, I have something living in my face. And I can like pinch a piece of my face.

32:32And if you keep pinching that piece of your face, and eventually the tissue can like start to separate. Or if it's like a swollen lymph node, or something, I don't know if I believe there's actually like something living in her face as much as I think she has postpartum psychosis and is like not in touch with reality. Maybe that's what it is. I think Brandy has postpartum psychosis. Yeah, Janet says either scar tissue from plastic surgery or bad filler. Be real silicone does whack things. She is dysmorphic. I think she is dysmorphic. It's possible. Like filler doesn't always fully leave your face. Like it could be left over filler. It could be, I don't think she's had silicone put it. You don't put silicone in your face. But you can put filler. And sometimes the like lip filler. That's like a thicker type of filler. And so if it migrates, it's pot. I mean, I don't know if it could migrate that far to the point where it's like hanging in her cheek. And that's what she's feeling. I don't know. I think she's always been big on injectables.

33:32Botox and filler. Sometimes you can over share. And this is maybe one of those times it's constant. Yeah. Susan says this poor woman. She's not getting the help that she needs. Yeah, I think the help that she needs is more psychiatric rather than physical. And I just, I agree. Doesn't filler move. Fill her can migrate. And so it like shifts to other areas. There were inject, there were injectable silicone at some point. Yeah, but I don't think. One, I don't think that's legal. And two, I don't think people ever injected silicone in their face. I know people would inject like silicone and like their butt. Or like you can get, I mean, a silicone, you would get like breast implants. But like you weren't injecting silicone into your body. You would die if you injected silicone into your body. That's not, that's like fake news. That's like a rumor. That's like the gerbil up the butt. Who is the guy with the gerbil that he should have the gerbil up his butt? Who was he? Diana says, I think it's bad injectables.

34:34She may have done some type of black market type of thing. And she wasn't making money like she used to. Yeah, it's possible. Richard gear. Yes, he was the one that shoved a gerbil up his butt. Laura says several people did Priscilla Presley had it done. And her face is a mess. She speaks about a, I didn't. Silicone in your face. Are we sure about that? I believe she went to a psychiatric institution getting proper care. Why don't you just say you don't care about people with mental illness? Why? Well, I mean, Brandy does look like she has mental illness. Cat, cat says, do you remember the cooking oil guy injections? No, guys, don't be putting crazy stuff in your face. I don't know. What in his butt? Well, that was just a rumor. Sorry, I'm not stating that as fact. But I remember that was a rumor that Richard gear shoved a gerbil up his butt.

35:35Right? It was a gerbil. How do you think get a gerbil up your butt? I don't know. Oh, Elle says did everyone get their 50% off special yesterday to upgrade? Yeah, I believe there's. It's like 30 minutes left to get it. It explains Lisa. She spoke. Good point. Lisa, I believe did get silicone injected into her lips. And that's why they're, they're so jacked up. That's why they're so big. Which was crazy. Because didn't she have lips before? Don't be putting concrete in your face. That was a thing around her. I'm botched. Have you seen that on botch from her? The lady with the, the. The, what do you call it? The, the, the unbots she had. She tried to get cheek implants and it was like concrete. That was injected into her face and they couldn't take it out. Because like, then it would be like really dangerous. Yeah, people are doing all sorts of crazy stuff. I don't know what happened to, to brandy or her face. I mean, I think a lot of it is just her own psychosis to be honest. So, the conundrums, they put them in condoms.

36:37Yeah, isn't that crazy? Like they just. Would put it in like a silicone covering. That way it like didn't seep into your bloodstream. I don't know. Crazy. Crazy, crazy, crazy. But. I don't know if I believe that there's something moving in her face. She says that she has to be on IVs for like 12, what was 18 hours a day? Is that what she said? Yeah, 18 hours a day of IV infusions. And she has nurses that come over and she can't do anything unless. A nurse comes over all she can do is take her podcast. She also claims that she finally had an ultrasound done and they found out that there was something alive in her face. And it was moving. I don't know if I believe that. I just think Brandy's kind of lost. Because I mean, think of how many different doctors at this point have. Like tried to examine and didn't tear you bro even try to help her. And they couldn't like figure out what was going on. And I think it's because there wasn't anything going on. It was just her. And her crazy like.

37:37Detached from reality situation. I don't know. So I think it's just. Honestly, I dk, I dk. Secret lives of Mormon wise. I don't know if you guys caught secret lives of Mormon wives. Per me season five premiere today. It's only five episodes. So it's an easy binge for this weekend. I watched the first episode. Yes. If you watch the first episode, you will see yours truly. I'm on. They use my content and secret lives of Mormon wives. From the podcast they use clips with with the news of Taylor and Dakota. And then I also they used one of my TikTok videos in Oprah's new podcast today. So you can see me on the Oprah podcast and you can see me and see your lives more on wives today. But. The first episode I thought was good. The fact that it's only five episodes and I'm already one down. So I only have four episodes left. I like these shorter seasons. Five episodes. Six episodes is plenty. I think all of these like longer seasons. But obviously the season was cut short because of all of the drama.

38:38Spoiler alert. They do get into the bachelor at. And they do kind of just basically spoil all of it. They reveal. So here are spoilers ahead of secret lives and Mormon wives and the bachelor at even though I don't think we're ever going to see the bachelor at. But Laura says, but are you on Brandy's podcast remember when I was on Brandy's podcast. Remember there was like that that beef or. I there was a room. There was somebody that I knew. Or not that there was somebody that I knew that told me that that gave me this scoop about Brandy. Glendale and Kim Richards sleeping with the same dude that they had a threesome with this one guy. There was this one guy that was going all around. Town claiming that he had slept with Brandy Glendale and Kim Richards. If the three of them had hooked up together, which ultimately is what led to Brandy and like my revelation of that news is what led to Brandy and Kim. And their friendship fall out because Kim was upset with Brandy about that rumor getting out there. And I was always kind of like, well, if Kim so upset with it, it kind of has to be true because if it was so ridiculous, like why would Kim be like Brandy, this is your fault.

39:45I think like Brandy convinced Kim maybe Kim was like, you know, living a good show is having. She's like, hey, having a good time that night. And I don't know. But there was a dude that was going around that was bragging about hooking up with Brandy and Kim. And I believe there was like a blind or a rumor about two housewives hooking up together. And ultimately I revealed that Brandy and Carlton had hooked up. And then Brandy like got upset about it. Well, I mean, obviously she got upset that I revealed that information. And she was just, and she was like, that twinkie is out there saying that she called me a twinkie. And she was saying that I was claiming to be the one that hooked up with Brandy, Glendville and Kim Richards, which could you imagine that me in bed with Brandy, Glendville and Kim Richards, like that would be the craziest three some of all time. But yes, Laura, that was a thing a few years ago. And Brandy was all upset and she like got mad at me and she was like calling me out on her podcast because she even got the rumor wrong. I was the dude that slept with the two of them and she's like this little twinkie. He doesn't even look like he's an adult yet and blah blah blah blah.

40:47And I was like, no ding dong bitch. Like there was another dude that happened to be one of your X's that was going around saying that he got to hook up with you and Kim. Why he would choose you and Kim. That's an odd combo. I don't think Kim Richards is on the top 10 list of housewives you want to be banging, but like listen, maybe he's got a granny fetish. Who am I to judge? So yes, Laura, or sorry, not Laura. Oh yeah, Laura. Yes, Laura. That was the thing at some point. I was on Brandy's podcast. But back to secret lives of Mormon wives. The bachelor's is fully spoiled. I guess Taylor. It's wild because they pick up filming secret lives of Mormon wives. And this is just in the premiere episode. So just know that's all I'm revealing in my spoilers. They pick up filming right when Taylor gets back and immediately once she gets back from filming the bachelor's. She immediately starts filming with Dakota and hooks up with Dakota again. And then reveals that she ended up picking Doug, which apparently Doug is the guy that none of the other Mormon wives and her mom.

41:55They didn't like Doug. They were all like, don't pick Doug. He's not the guy for you. And of course Taylor with, you know, the brilliant picker that she has went with Doug and chose Doug, even though she shouldn't have gone with Doug and she's sure and chose Doug, but she chose Doug. And so that's, and it's also strange that they don't even show the photos of these guys. Like I would at least have appreciated if they showed us who the fuck Doug was. Like you have to do your own research to be like, who is let's say Taylor, Frankie Paul bachelor at Doug. Okay, this is Doug. Here I'm going to pull him up for you. Let's see. There you go. Here is Doug. He's cute. He's apparently like a white wrapper. He thinks he's M&M or something. I don't know. But she picked Doug and that's who she chose as her final guy. So again, they just spoiled that right out the gate. So again, I don't think we're going to get that season of the bachelor at Afrox. Now we have full on spoilers.

43:01And not only does she sleep with Dakota while she's days off of filming bachelor at engaged to Doug. But then she says that she's in love with Ben. And you're like, well, who the fuck is Ben? Ben is apparently a dude. She was dating before she went to go film the bachelor. So she comes out of the bachelor at engaged to Doug, sleeps with Dakota and then admits that she's in love with Ben. And you're just like, what the fuck? And this is all just in the first episode. And even the other girls are like Taylor. Oh my god. And then Dakota's there. And then I will say Taylor and Dakota do have crazy chemistry. And then they have like very interesting crazy chemistry together. And it's like kind of hot and like I get it, you know, like a get it. And I'm sure that the sex is incredible. But then there's like a moment where she remember he hooked up with one of Miranda's friends Dakota hooked up with one of Miranda's friends. And then Taylor was really pissed about that. And then there's a scene where Taylor was like, did you hook up with her again?

44:05Did you hook up with her again? Well, it's going to be a bad story. Ha, ha, ha. And he's just like, what do you mean? No, no, Taylor, what do you mean? And she's like, did you hook up with him? Did you hook up with her? Did you hook up with her? And he's like, I mean, do you want me to tell you the truth Taylor? And she's just like, no, I want you to lie to me Dakota. Tell me the truth Dakota. And he's like, where would you want me to do? Like yes, I hooked up with her. I did it. And he's like, more than once, huh? More than once. More than once. And her eyes are like bulging out of her head. And he's like, what do you mean? But I love you and I did hook up with her. You were big dating other guys. And it's like this very bizarre scene where her eyes are about to come bulging out of her head. Is she's like freaking out at him for sleeping with this other girl while meanwhile she's sleeping with all these other dudes on the bachelor at. Because she reveals that as well that she slept with the other dudes. She slept with Doug. And I'm just like, Taylor, how do you expect to land a man when you're giving the milk out for free? Like you're, you know, a sampler at Costco.

45:10Like she's just out here. You want to smell she's like getting her little others and she's like shooting milk out for all the guys and the guys are, and they're just sucking up all her milk. And of course, you're not going to buy the cow at that point because you're just giving away the milk for free. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's actually wild wild wild wild. But so yeah, she's in love with Ben, but she's also low key in love with Dakota, because she can't quit Dakota, but she's engaged to Doug. And that's the synopsis of episode one of secret lives of Mormon wives. And I imagine it only gets crazier as the season goes on the next four episodes, because eventually the cast stops filming with her, and it's just wild. And then Whitney Levitt has announced that this is her final season of secret lives of Mormon wives. And you do see a little bit of her. She's not like to involved with the cast, but she's. Now moving New York and getting ready for Chicago and all that stuff. And she's done so with the show. I don't know how the show moves forward. I guess the show could move forward because when you have you have Macy and Michaela and, because Jen's not really like.

46:22She's in it, but she's like not really engaged with the rest of the crew or the rest of the cast. So I guess the other ones Jesse and Macy and Michaela and Leyla and Miranda, the five of them surprisingly hold the show down. So Valerie says so she's just a legit skank. Remember when her dad called her a skank, what was it season two. And we were all like, oh my god, I can't believe he called her a slut on television. And then it's like, well, if it walks like a duck and sucks like a dog, then probably fucks like a duck to. So. You know, is Jen pregnant again. Yes, Jen Aflac is pregnant again. And she wants to have a career and Zach is like, no, you're a woman. And you have postpartum psychosis. So therefore you can vote anymore. And she's like, oh, but please, Mr. Husband, let me have a job. And she's just like, no, get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich bitch.

47:23So, you know, are they doing a Mormon show in California. Yes, I believe this will be the lead up to the California show orange county. And it will be interesting. I'm curious to see what the OC Mormon wives bring. This show lasted five seasons. It's expected to go into a sixth season, who knows how much fast, who how much longer to go after that. But I believe this will show Jen transition from Salt Lake City to Orange County. I'm just not interested. I know people are watching and they're like, the premiere was good. And I'm glad the premiere was good. Like I'm glad people are enjoying it. I mean, they fucked up the last two seasons that like they really needed to save it this season. Carol Radsville is not really that interesting to me. If anything, she's like the least compelling part of it. The fact that people are like gagged for Carol. I'm like, okay.

48:23I'm a personator. Yeah, no, I'm good. But I'm glad people are enjoying the show. Like, you know, good for them. I'm glad that they're finding it entertaining. But like I also didn't watch Housewives of Rhode Island. I just wasn't interested. You know, nothing against the show, nothing against Bravo. I just, I personally lost interest. So I don't care to watch Roni. But people loved Rhode Island. I didn't watch Rhode Island either. I just again, I'm not interested in Housewives and getting to know them. Like I've already made my emotional investments. I will watch the, the, the golden life show. That one I'm interested in. That one I will watch. But like I'm not watching OC this season. I'm not watching Atlanta Potomac. The trailer came out for Potomac and that looks kind of good. But yeah, Elsa, Zach has graduated from Bravo minus next gen, right? I don't really watch next gen. I catch like clips of it. But yeah.

49:30I don't know what Bravo shows. I'm even Beverly Hills. I will always watch. And I think that's about it. Right. Was there another, I mean, Ultimate Girl's trip I'm watching. But it's more of just like nostalgia bait. I'm like, I'm like, okay, I got it. Yeah, I think that's, that's where it's at. That's where I'm at. That's what it do, boo. What it do. Also, there was some breaking news. Breaking news, you guys that came out today about Savannah Guthrie and you're going to be like, whoa, what? Where's the lady? Everyone's always asking for an update on the lady. Where is the lady? Well, we have a breaking news update about the lady. New York Post breaking news Savannah makes rare comment about her mom Nancy on the today show seven months into the disappearance.

50:33Breaking news Savannah Guthrie mentioned her mom's heritage on the today show Thursday morning seven months into Nancy Guthrie's disappearance. The NBC personalities rare comment on her mom still missing on her still missing mom came after an announcement that Savannah and her colleagues will be filming a series of live episodes across the pond. And if you're wondering what Savannah Guthrie said, well, have no fear. I have that statement here as well. If I can open it, how do I open this? So Savannah Guthrie said, I've never been to Ireland. My mother was Irish and so was her grandmother. They were from Galway. That is what she said. That was her exclusive breaking quote. So in case you wanted an update, that is the breaking got three news. Zach on the doctor sues today.

51:38Like Dr. Sues the riddler. What the fuck? Yeah, I mean, I kind of feel the same way. What the fuck was the point of that update? Why did we need that update? I was like, okay, breaking news. Like that that's breaking news that her mom was Irish. How about where the fuck is her mom? I don't care where her mom came from. I care where her mom's at now. Where is her mom? Where is the lady? What happened? We lost a whole lady. I don't care where the ladies from. I care where the lady currently resides. And nobody has been able to provide information as to where the lady currently resides. Okay. So Savannah talking about her heritage. Again, I don't care what I care about is finding the lady. Where is the lady? I don't know how you just lose a whole lady in 2026, but apparently you can just lose a whole lady. Nobody knows where she's at. Where Savannah got three. Host in Wordal. Where's Nancy got three. Nobody knows. Maybe they'll find her in Ireland. They'll find her in Galway. I can't.

52:40Like I just I literally can't the fact that this was a headline. The fact that this is breaking news. I was just like you have got to be kidding me. Shout out to Janice. I saw, oh, yes, the where's the lady glass. Yes, the bonus episode. Thank you. Well, yes, I'm going to do a new bonus episode right now. So be sure to submit your questions. Vals says we lost a whole lady. Where is she? We don't care if she's Irish. Yeah, I don't care if she's Irish. I care where she's at. I care what happened to her. She's I, well, you know what Nancy got three needs to do is cash in some of that Irish luck to help us find her. Nancy, can you send us a forwardly clover with the sign of where you're at. That would be helpful. But at this point, I mean, if her own family doesn't even care where she's at, then like, why are we still invested? Maybe that was a clue to the kidnapper. Oh, Jen, Jen says, well, she did pull an Irish goodbye.

53:48Bottom bump. All right. Tell me it's like it's just sad and Savannah's like, oh, well, let's go to Ireland. I'm missing for seven months. Oh, well, let's go visit where she came from. Like, what? Why do you go visit where she's at? Like, why don't you go find her? Susan says Savannah's a little off a little off. Yeah, no. I don't know where the lady is at this point Valerie. I don't think we'll ever find that lady. May she, I mean, at least we know now she's with Jesus, but like in terms of like where she will be found. Oh, that's a good one. Diana, where is the Bratz reenactment on the Nancy got three kidnapping. That's what we need. Can we get the bitch with the bratz dolls to do a reenactment of what happened in Nancy got three. Get the bratz dolls bitch on the case get her on the case now.

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