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all of the big news, all of it will be covered today.
We're going to start in Washington because we've got a minute with Royal Oaks who is
so brilliant on legal matters, because the Justice Department has just published documents
with sexual assault allegations against the president, and these are pretty ugly.
I'll get into some of the details with Royal, high Royal Oaks.
Hey, how you doing?
You must have a very weird definition of brilliant, but thank you anyway.
You know, this is provocative, Mark.
I mean, obviously these allegations have been horrific for decades now.
What happened is that about seven years ago, the FBI interviewed a woman who said that
back when she was 13, 14 or 15, it's a little vague, she had, and then counter with Donald
Trump, we don't have any details, we don't know what this involved, but that alone is
enough to get people thinking.
But the deal is, these documents were just produced today about a thousand pages, and
the DOJ has some explaining to do, Mark, because these interview reports were actually with
held months ago, and the DOJ says, oh, sorry, we mistakenly thought that they were duplicative
a few months ago.
So we didn't produce them then.
Now we realize that we didn't produce them at all, and so here they are.
But the allegations are totally uncoroperated, and there are some huge credibility gaps
in the allegations, but nonetheless, of course, is not good news for Donald Trump.
Yeah, it's interesting, just first before I get into these specific allegations, it would
appear, and they kind of mentioned the White House does, or the, you know, the official government
position is, you know, these are totally baseless.
These accusations also supported by the obvious fact that Joe Biden's Department of Justice
knew about them for four years, did nothing with them because they knew President Trump did
absolutely nothing wrong, as we have said countless times.
So true, maybe, or maybe the Biden, Justice Department was, in a sense, following the
script that many suggest the Epstein file script has followed, which is everybody's covering
for everybody else.
I, I don't know if there's any, how do you, how do you rate the, the weight of that, the
fact that Biden had it and did nothing with these allegations?
Yeah, to me, that's a pretty powerful thing for Donald Trump.
I mean, we know how little love there was between the Biden folks and the Trump folks.
And the fact that the Biden Department of Justice, as you say, investigated these specific
claims, had them on their desk for four years and did Zippo, that seems like a pretty strong
fact for Donald Trump.
But there's more, for example, the timeline this young woman described was before Epstein
and Trump had any social connection whatsoever.
And yet, she alleges that she was introduced to Trump by Epstein.
So that's a problem.
The second problem is that she claims some incidents occurred in South Carolina and nobody's
made any allegations that Epstein was doing anything wrong or ever set foot in South
Carolina.
Plus, she was interviewed four times and she was asked for details and she couldn't give
any additional details in any subsequent interviews.
And of course, there's no collaboration, no friends coming forward and saying, oh, she
tearfully told me when she was 14 or 15, this happened, obviously no documents, no photography.
So is it a big problem for Donald Trump?
If nothing more comes out beyond this, probably not.
But this is markets so weird.
I mean, we heard recently somebody said, you know, about 1% of the Epstein documents
have been produced.
1% after decades, how can this be?
But, you know, the reduction challenge is a big one.
You've got millions of documents and human beings have to put their eyes on the documents
and make sure we're not releasing any more names of alleged victims who are not doing
anything that would compromise ongoing investigation.
So this is just going to be more drip, drip, drip in terms of the story that just won't
go away.
Well, on the ongoing investigation part, the head of the Justice Department, Pam Bond,
he says, you know, it's sort of case closed.
So I feel like that's sort of thinner and thinner ice that they're on.
But as you say, the redactions have been, it would seem tactical and strategic.
And in the redactions, of course, we've seen very powerful people, lawyers names and politicians
names, redacted while we've seen victims names.
And you kind of alluded to this in your answer, sort of accidentally in air quotes released.
And then the documents pulled back, then those redactions happen.
So it's been a bit deliberately chaotic, maybe I would say.
And the one thing I would say here and ask you about Royal Oaks is the way in which there
were multiple FBI interviews with this woman.
So she was not discounted completely by investigators who were looking into all of this.
No, you're right.
And that's a really important point.
I mean, not everybody gets interviewed four times during this time frame of July, October
2019.
And so that suggests that they thought they were on to something.
And also, as you say, this is not a good look.
I mean, for specific interviews about Donald Trump and a 13 to 15 year old, for his Trump's
Department of Justice to not produce them before, the idea being, oh, we thought that they
had earlier been produced.
And now, in March, 2026, the Trump DOJ says, well, sorry, you know, human error.
The fact that they had not been produced way in the past.
So they weren't duplicative at all.
You know, you and I've talked about this before, Mark, I think the lifespan of this case
can be chalked up at least in part to the fact that this is a pretty unusual issue.
How often do you see somebody in the right and somebody in the left agreeing?
And yet, the folks on the left would love to see Donald Trump implicated in something
like this.
The folks on the right would love to see Bill Clinton and others implicated.
And as a result, it just hangs in.
I mean, this is one of the reasons Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is this big acolyte for
Trump for years, she's couldn't handle the fact that his DOJ seemed to be slow walking
the Epstein thing.
And that's why she suddenly, you know, breaks away, she no longer in Congress.
This is just one of those issues where inquiring minds of all stripes along the political
spectrum want to know and so it just prevents the case from dying.
And as you saw a week or so ago, both Bill and Hillary Clinton were forced to give deposition
testimony before Congress, you know, at least they let them do it up in Chapacol, you know,
where they live, upstate New York is supposed to force them to go to Washington, D.C., but
yeah, they had to give sworn testimony just, you know, we don't really know yet why the
Congress people were asking Hillary Clinton about UFOs and pizza gate, but apparently
it was quite a raucous day.
Well, I think it speaks to the quality of Congress people these days, but more on that another
time.
The last thing I would point to Roy, I kind of alluded to it is that the specifics here,
I was going to read them, but man, they give me the creeps and I don't want to, you know,
this is, this is filled with specifics, this series of FBI investigative interviews with
this woman whose name of course is redacted says that Epstein took her to either New York
or New Jersey, where quote, in a very tall building with huge rooms, he introduced her
to Trump.
Trump, she said, quote, didn't like that I was a boy girl, meaning a tomboy.
The woman said other people were present, but she couldn't recall who Trump asked them
to leave the room, then said, quote, something to the effect of let me teach you how little
girls are supposed to be.
This is again, according to the interview notes.
And then Trump then unzipped his pants, et cetera, I'm not going to get into the rest,
but she mentions that he said, get this little B using the, guess I can say, it gets
this little bitch the hell out of here.
And in all of these specifics, Royale, it seems as though the narrative is so filled
with detail that it gives it a veracity, you know what I mean?
Well, to me, it doesn't really necessarily give it veracity.
It does provide specificity and detail.
And you're right, and that often is a hallmark of some credibility and accuracy.
But here, given the other problems with their credibility, I mean, you have to ask yourself
there, why is the person saying these things?
Do they have a motive?
Do you have an axe to grind?
Are they looking for an extortionate type settlement or something?
And for her to rattle off all this stuff, as you say, it's kind of creepy, and I'm glad
you, you know, you stopped saying it did.
But it doesn't really suggest that she has strong credibility.
I think we'd have to allow, no, a lot more to conclude that, you know, well, we're probably
going to believe her or probably not.
It's just, it's just so weird.
There's nothing normal or non-weird about this Epstein story, and this new wrinkle is
consistent with everything else we've heard.
Yeah.
Royalotes, you're so right.
I mean, there's different aspects to this.
One is the legal, which you can comment on so beautifully.
And I also feel as though you've touched beautifully on the political, which is a huge
part of this as well, political parties united in wanting the Epstein files out.
And then, of course, the clear stink, political stink associated with the accusations here.
And then ultimately, you know, what happens in terms of the half life of this, like how
long does it linger that stink and how bad does it get?
So that's it to be continued.
Thanks for joining my friend.
Have a good weekend.
Royalotes.
You bet you too.
Thanks.
All right.
Royalotes shedding some light on the latest justice, justice department move to publish documents
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Thompson's sitting in and I know I need in a minute too when I got the news.
Christy Nome is out.
I was getting so used to seeing her every time I arrived at the airport and then the
other airport and then the third and fourth airports I went, she was everywhere.
Seeing those videos she did with the cowboy hats, the other cowboy hats, the camo, the assault
rifle, and she, you know, she like making those videos.
As it turns out, as we learned from testimony, this has been widely reported, but it's kind
of good when she actually was facing congressional questioning.
The media campaign was this quarter of a billion dollar campaign and a lot of those
monies went to the, should we just say the Nome Circle, somebody with her political campaign,
their husband, they set up a company literally eight days before they got all that money,
that media money.
The media money was spread out a bit, but huge chunks, tens of millions of dollars dedicated
in no bid contracts.
I mean, let's face it, there was a lot of out Christie Nome that probably rubbed you
the wrong way.
She liked to live large, you know, $60,000 Rolex, a couple of private jets, but you don't
remember the $60,000 Rolex, but yeah, if you were a $60,000 Rolex watch to tour that
run down El Salvador in prison, you know, a 60 hey, well, because hello Deborah, I know
my Rolex is okay, you have a 60 K Rolex, no, I don't because I don't have 60 K. I'll
bet if you check the cobalt house, there might be a couple of high end watches, but it was,
jumped out at everybody.
So the idea then that she would be embroiled in other controversies involving using border
funds to buy a fleet of private luxury aircraft, a $70 million jet that was being used by
her.
The department spent more than 300 million on three private jets, two Gulfstream G 700s and
a Boeing 737.
The Boeing 3737 was a nickname, the big beautiful jet apparently, that's what they called it
there in DHS land.
One jet of course featured a queen size bed, showers, a kitchen, four large flat screen TVs.
And people thought, that's kind of feeling like a waste of money.
So she was in trouble.
And then of course, there was, as I mentioned, the media campaign, which was a massive blast
showing her on a horse and showing her in all those outfits I described.
Then of course, she came into the position having written that memoir where she killed her
family dog cricket, a puppy that they couldn't train, she had a 14 month old wire haired pointer.
She called it this dog untrainable and dangerous.
So she led the pup into the gravel pit, well apparently it was well trained enough, you
could lead it into the gravel pit.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm just saying, you know, you're untrained and my untrained, maybe different untrained.
Sounds like you're making progress with the pup and then you decide to kill it in the
gravel pit.
You couldn't take it back to, you know, uh, yeah, to a, thank you to a shelter.
Exactly.
We're not even a shelter, but you know, go, go to a place where it can be rescued or rescue
organization.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Well, of course, all of these things helped lead to a cloud around her.
And then of course, there was the pilot that was fired for leaving her blanket behind.
Now Corey Lewandowski, and this is the other thing.
The bizarre configuration of the way DHS was running.
It was widely reported from the very early days of DHS that if you wanted to get something
down at the department of Homeland Security, you did not go to Christy Nome.
You went to Corey Lewandowski.
So Lewandowski was from a day facto standpoint running DHS.
Christy Nome was on all of those media ads, the super, but it ran on the Super Bowl,
those commercials.
She was in all of that.
She was the front person, but Lewandowski was making it.
Anyway, Lewandowski, of course, then fired this Coast Guard pilot for misplacing Nome's
blanket when they switched planes.
Lewandowski, of course, rumored to have this affair that's been widely reported on and
rumored about walked into the cockpit of the Coast Guard plane as it was taking off and
flipped out over this missing blanket.
Was this blanket very expensive?
No, it was just her favorite blanket.
I'm sure it was pricey because everything she wears and has is pricey.
It's a friggin' blanket.
Well, and then, of course, lastly, the, you know, the affair with Lewandowski.
And so again, it was the alleged affair that he's this advisor, never got any kind of
confirmation and ends up as her advisor.
And as I say, as the day facto leader of DHS.
So with all of that, and by the way, with her husband still very much in the picture,
and I mean literally in the picture, if you watch the Senate hearings, you could see
the husband sitting behind her.
He's supportive.
And now when we come back, I will tell you the real reason why he's supportive of Christy
Nome through her Corey Lewandowski reported affair as we continue.
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I will be talking about California gas prices coming up, obviously we're getting hit
harder than a lot of other states just in terms of the price we have to pay at the pump.
I mean, that's the case day to day.
But as prices will rise, given what's going on in the Middle East, we'll talk about things
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We're in the middle of a Christy Nome conversation.
I was telling you about the way in which she was spending so much and apparently Donald
Trump was not super happy with the media by that was one of the things that he was not
according to inside a reporting so keen on in a minute, why Christy Nome's husband stayed
married to her through the louder than loudspeaker reporting.
He widely understood non-secret that she was rolling around with Corey Lewandowski.
And then the public humiliation of getting called out on that in the Senate hearing just
two days ago, I'll give you thoughts and reporting on that.
But here is a little bit of a cut down as to that moment in the Senate hearing when
Nome faced the music.
It's included in this report.
Embattled Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome confronted over allegations, she's
having a sexual relationship with former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, who
serves as an unconfirmed, special governmental employee.
I have to say just for the record, I don't really care who rolls around with who.
I'm not really the sex police, you know, but when you're rolling around with somebody
else who you are working with this way, and he has control of a lot of the agency as
I was mentioning before the break, it was widely understood that if you wanted something
done at DHS, you went to Corey Lewandowski, not to Christy Nome.
This becomes a problem as a taxpayer.
I'm not here to underwrite, you know, your luxurious travel with a bed for you guys to
roll around on there.
There, and you can say, well, I don't know who's to say whether they're really using
them.
It's just, it's just not what you do if you want to be a responsible servant to the
public.
So in any case, we continue.
Have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski?
Mr. Chairman, I am shocked that we're going down in peddling tabloid garbage in this
committee.
Nome offended by the question, but never directly answering it.
I really think you need to say the word no into the record so that you can clear that
up.
The ridiculousness of this and the tabloids that you are quoting and referencing are insane.
And this has been something that I've refuted for years and I continue to do that.
Nome also forced to defend that apartment's $200 million ad campaign with the secretary
as the star.
You budgeted an astonishing $220 million for media consultant contracts so you can star
in self-promoting photo shoots in lavish ad campaigns.
The secretary also cornered on NBC News is reporting over her seeking approval for the
purchase of a $70 million luxury jet with taxpayer funds.
The DHS says the plane was intended to save taxpayer money.
One and have been cheaper just to buy a deportation plane in the first place.
Democrats accusing her of steering more than $140 million to a marketing company with a
tie to her political apparatus.
Something known defended.
Was it done correctly 14 billion impressions from the marketing campaign?
Sure.
Money spent in this country and an eight different country.
By the way, that's not defending the spend.
That's justifying the spend.
What is going on here and I thought it was laid bare and it's totally unbranded for
this person who has now been shunned essentially as a public servant and removed from the DHS.
Clear here again is that there were no bid contracts awarded.
I mean, this is a straight up grift.
So it's not really a question of how many people saw the spots you did.
You bought a Super Bowl spot as I say your image and all these commercials are here at
the airport and every other airport.
The idea is that when you award no bid contracts to your friends and colleagues, husbands,
to companies that literally were just formed eight days prior to getting the government
money, it's a grift.
Something known defended.
Was it done correctly?
14 billion impressions from the marketing campaign.
Sure.
Money spent in this country and an eight different countries that illegal migration was coming
from.
Metinspector overwhelmingly effective.
We all understand the argument that you've made.
Yeah.
How to Brian Nome, Christy Nome's husband.
Family members are hoping is reported that he finally leaves his wife, Christy.
It was humiliation as described by family, friends to hear of her alleged affair with
the top advisor.
They fear that he'll continue to stay in his marriage because of what?
If you guessed Christian faith, yeah, it's shocking.
I know.
If you guessed Christian faith, you get points.
I thought it was financial.
Oh, better guess.
I mean, at least that is somewhat justifiable.
It suggested, I'm astounded as well, commitment to his vows.
I mean, it suggested he's a deeply faith based person and commitment to his vows is something
he takes very seriously, but clearly, I mean, and it's sort of again been laid bare.
He is married to somebody who doesn't share the same commitment to the vows.
Friends of the extended family of Brian Nome, Christy's husband, are saying that the South
Dakota businessman has long felt it was his religious duty to stand behind his wife, even
as this very public scandal rocks their marriage.
Quote, he said he decided about 20 years ago that it was his calling from God to support
her in whatever she decided to do.
This is a quote from one family member.
So he has put up with the humiliation and we'll see if he sticks with her now.
I think it's him honoring the calling from God, the family member said, but it seems that
there would be some limit to that.
The Nome's have been together for three decades.
The whole thing started in 1992.
They went to high school together.
They began dating when Christy was a junior at Hamlin High School in South Dakota.
Brian was a freshman at Northern State University.
They went on to have three children together.
They raised him in this ultra strict church community.
They worked the family farm together initially and then Brian moved into the insurance business
in 03.
Christy entered politics in 06.
She got the seat in the South Dakota House representatives and then she got the governorship
of course in 2018.
But family members are saying that tensions between the Homeland Security Chief Christy
Nome and her husband's relatives have simmered for years.
Many have long known about her romantic entanglement with Corey Lewandowski which spilled
into the open this week.
She despises the Nome family, the relative said.
The relative saying that Brian Nome appears determined to show solidarity with his wife
even as she gets this bruising public grilling from lawmakers and even as she has faced
removal now.
So that's the story behind the story.
She leaves, I think at the end of this month, I think at the timing of it, she'll be in
office for the rest of March.
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and it might be a democratic nightmare in this race for governor.
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Mark Thompson here for John Cobalt, the Democrats, of course, competing for the California
governorship, find themselves in this bizarre situation.
Of course, you know, nuisance out, and he's term-limited, right?
So you have eight candidates, and in the eight candidates you are splitting this Democratic
vote.
The paperwork has been filed, Eric Swalwell, former controller, Betty Yee, state schools
chief, Tony Thurman, the mayor of San Jose is running, Matt Mayan, former Congressperson
Katie Porter, former LA mayor, and Tonya Viragosa, Tom Steyer, you've seen his commercials,
you've seen the commercials from all these people, roughly, and former HHS secretary
Javier Basira.
So you've no doubt heard about this, and you no doubt are aware of it on some level,
but now you are living it as we all are.
In a state where 45% of the voters are Democrats, just 25% are Republicans.
Now you may be Republican, go, hey, I don't know you're talking about 90% of my friends
are Republican.
And where are the Democrats in this state?
I mean, we all live in our own ecosystem, right?
When it comes to politics on some level, but the reality is that 45% of California voters
are Democrats and 25% are Republicans.
But polling is saying that more Democratic candidates are splitting this liberal share
of the state's votes versus the Republican side where they're just two candidates, and
that so the two Republicans could easily carry the majority of votes.
And that would leave Democrats in a situation where you're voting for a Republican for governor,
whether you like it or not.
It's a real spot that the Democrats find themselves in.
Splitting the vote and the very real possibility that two Republicans end up in the general, even
in a heavily Democratic state.
So this large field in a top two system that we have in California is really flying in
the face of a plea in effect by Democratic leadership to say, guys, you can't see what's
happening here.
We're going to lose control of the governorship of California.
But when you feel as though you are the most qualified leader, the most capable leader,
you end up not wanting to bow out of the race.
And all of these people feel as though they fall into that category.
So I watch this with great interest.
And there is a lot of pressure.
The state party chair Rusty Hicks and open letter calling for Democrats, quote, without
a path to victory to bow out.
But the reality is that there isn't much in the way of movement.
The candidates who filed paperwork to appear on the ballot can still suspend their campaigns
after is the deadline today.
I think it's today, yeah, it is today, yeah.
So they can still suspend their campaigns after today, but the names will continue to appear
on the ballot and will still risk dividing the votes, right?
Candidates who appear on the ballot after dropping out oftentimes continue to win votes.
Leland Yee, for example, state center, state center, Democratic state center.
One almost 10% of the vote in the primary race for Secretary of State in 2014.
That was despite the fact they had been indicted on federal corruption and weapons trafficking
conspiracy charges dropped out of the race in March of that year.
So it's not uncommon for this to happen for a name to appear on the ballot again after
the deadline of today and then pull enough votes to screw up the whole race.
Newsom will not endorse, but he talks about this situation that we find ourselves in
California, so many Democrats running and a public that isn't really wedded to anyone.
Gavin Newsom said, quote, when I'm out in the community, people aren't talking to me
about this, which is interesting this late just weeks before early voting.
As a consequence, I'm not directly as engaged as perhaps I might need to be what an excuse.
The public doesn't seem to be engaged, so I don't really see the need to be engaged
either.
Falls last month from Emerson College and from the public policy institute of California found
that Republican Riverside Sheriff Chad Bianco and former Fox News personality Steve Hilton
and the Democrats swall well, Porter and billionaire Tom Steyer are leading the overall
field with 9% or higher.
You may suggest that 9% isn't very good and you'd be right, except again, when you have
this many horses running, 9% all of a sudden gets attention because the rest of the Democrats
are at or below 5%.
So this is a serious situation developing here and California could very easily end up
with Republican governor and a conservative agenda.
And how will that square with so many Democrats who control the state house, a wild, wild political
field and political narrative playing out in California?
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