
Nightcap Hour 1: LIVE from Las Vegas - Bud Crawford Joins + Tua Tagovailoa Ruled Out!
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Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and “Iso” Joe Johnson are live from Las Vegas Radio Row for Ryan Garcia vs. Conor Benn with special guests Terence "Bud" Crawford, Max Kellerman, Richardson Hitchins, and much more!
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He's out to us off of the nobleek injury. And he's experiencing discomfort. He will miss Sunday's game. Cooper Rush will start four weeks to debate the Falcons starting quarterback center round to us in Michael Perry Jr. And lo and behold, neither one of them will start opening week. It's going to be Cooper Rush. And yet, Ocho. Yeah. It's upsetting. It's upsetting for me. One who's always stood on that hill for tour, always supported him through his ups and his downs, the injuries, the issues, the problems. Now you get a fresh start to change the scenery with the dolphins obviously rebuilding, cleaning house. And he goes to Atlanta with a fresh start. And we right back to square one with the same old, excuse my bad, with the same old stuff. Yeah. Now for me, this kind of upsetting. I was hoping and wishing he went out there Sunday and showed, you know, listen, I do belong. This is one of your last chances, Uncle Joe. Huh? This is one of his last chances. This could be very well. Be your last stop. Right. You know, because a lot of people, a lot of teams, you know, they really don't believe in you.
You go to Atlanta, you have opportunity. And here we are again with the injury book, with the injury problems once again. Yeah, I agree, Joe. I think the thing is that when quarterback start bouncing around, they need to go a place and solidify themselves to say, you know what? He still has it. Let's make a long term commitment. You start going, okay, one year, you, okay, you last year, you were in Miami, one year in Atlanta, next year, you're somewhere, next year, somewhere after that. Now you turn into a tournament quarterback. Now people looking for you to get you on a minimum contract and pay you back up money. I was thinking that maybe you know what, this is a great situation. Look at what he has it running back. Look at the receiving court that he had the tight end with Kyle Pesinha and Drake London and those guys, uh, uh, Zachari, Zachari, uh, Zacchaeus, all those guys do that. That's what you have at your disposal. And now you're unique, but that's been his MO. He has, he's been unable to stay healthy for any length of time. The one time that he did stay healthy, he played really well. I think he went to the pro bowl, had an outstanding season this year that Jaylen Wattell, Ocho that you mentioned Jaylen
Wattell and Tyrick Witt crazy. But other than that, man, it's injury after injury after injuries. It's frustrating to him. I know it's frustrating to him if it's frustrating to us because we're having to talk about it, but I know it's really frustrating to him. Man, I, I think it's a blessing disguise. Okay, Ocho. A blessing, yeah. Yeah. I think I think he's been, he's had this injury bug since he came into the NFL and you mean to tell me that it's gonna get better when he gets to the Falcons? Nah, bro. Nah, nah. So I think, obviously Cooper Rush is going to start. And then you may even have to look at the guy straining the back up the rookie who, who had, he look, he look good in the preceding, the uncle, Ocho, you know, he got some legs, he can, he can move, he can throw, he can do a little bit everything. You have some patience in that pocket. So I don't know, man, I don't know what, what, where they go from here, hopefully, you know, Cooper Rush can, can, can, can, uh, get them some service. Yeah. Hey, I got, I got a question for you, Joe. Now the first thing you said is, it's a blessing in disguise. Now it's a blessing for who? I don't, I don't like the way you worded that. Who's the blessing for the Falcons?
You know that man, well, he, come on man, they made that injury problem. He was gonna get, he was probably gonna get hurt at some point. So you just saying it's a blessing for the Falcons? Yes. I don't like the way you throw a two under the bus. Well, I'm just keeping it one hundred. You back up over. I'm keeping it a hunting, bro. Okay. I'm keeping it a hunting. Now hopefully, you know, pinnets can get back, you know, and give them some good service of play. But right now, man, they got to deal with, they got a whole Cooper Rush can over in the little form. I don't like that. I don't like that. You ain't got to like it. I'm just keeping it real, bro. I know. I know. I'm not, I'm not so sure that Matt Rines and love with either one of those guys. Hello, he might be on a situation where it might be a situation where he likes playing a big strong on. Yeah. Yes. Push the ball down the field. Yeah. Because if you go back and look at, if you look at Kansas City, it wasn't Alex Smith wasn't bad. Alex Smith had the inability to push the ball down the field. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He got guys that can get down the field. All that dinkin and dunkin. That's fine and good. Yeah. But you get points. Big pass and play big chunk yard down the field. That's how you win, gang. Yeah. This dinkin and dubbing. This, this, this, this shore fishing. If you want big fish, you got to go out deep. Hello.
You got to cast out deep and, and, and I'm not so sure, too. Uh, it's, I don't think he can stay healthy long enough. Take a hit and he's down every single time. It's frustrating. I know he's frustrating because there's someone that has dealt with injuries. Don't you think they're really dealt with injuries? It's frustrating. Like, damn, man, what do I got? I've done everything I possibly could. And the all season, I ate what I supposed to. I had my body right and the least little thing. And the next thing you know, you knickd up again. You know what? Well, it makes it frustrating for me because I was hoping for him having, obviously, having a second chance, him having a change of scenery and doing well showing everybody else all the, all the naysayers, all the haters that, look, I can't get it done. Yeah. I do actually belong. I can be a starting quarterback for franchise. And then you get hurt. Not only do you get hurt, but he got hurt and the C name started, Uncle Joe. But thank you. We have a lot of people out there. We have a lot of people out there. You're just playing toast. So imagine he get hit. He playing toast, so imagine he get hit. I don't know, man. Come on, man. Like you walk, you walk into the locker room. Oh, your twist is ankle today. Yeah. Man, what happened? Oh, you ran the speed out of something?
You cut. Man, I was just walking in the locker. People go look at you sideways. Look at you. Like you crazy. Hey man, people look at him. He just like a soft chocolate thing. You know, he's taking a seat on the grass. I'm like that. Hey, too, we get well, bro. You know, I'm here. I'm supporting you, man. I'm like, you know, the rest of the world, bro. I mean, get back, man. Come back, man. Though for like 4500 this year, you ain't, ain't that we ain't supporting the man. We just keeping it a beam, bro. Yeah, they take your beans and take them, take them to jail. I ain't trying to hit that. But you want to do something? No, no, no, no. Okay. All right. No, you mean Jack. Jack Strang? No, Jack. Jack, who would have been here? Who would have been up to hill? I thought I thought you'd tell my de beans that. Yeah, he said take your beans to take them to jail. Okay, I think Jack and the beans talk. No, I'm talking about the little nature rhyme. Jack and Jill went up to hill. Yeah, yeah, yeah, taking being taken to jail. I thought you wanted to plan the beans so that your beans talk. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Clearly nursery rhyme with he wasn't being on nursery rhyme. But I'm sure it's frustrating for a Falcon fan. Falcon's looking to look. You got B. John, you got Drake London, you got Zacchaeus, you got Kyle Pits, you got a nice offense. Yeah, you expected to have a better defense. Now, we're going to see Kevin Stofanski. He get a new life and from Cleveland got a reprieve from Cleveland, goes that Atlanta. So and now we're going to have a battle at the quarterback position between the two lefties and come to find out it's going to be Cooper Rush starting to open and date. But I just in Falcon fans, I'm surprised. I'm not surprised. And I tell you who I promise. I don't think Matt Ryan is surprised either. And I would not be surprised. I'm going to be more surprised if at some point in time. Strand is not starting during the season. Oh, absolutely. I'm not going to be surprised at all. I mean, I don't think you think Cooper Rush plays that bad, would they have to make another change? I mean, you should, you should be able to facilitate with that kind of talent around you. And obviously the owners for that team to have success,
it's going to be on B. John Robinson. Remember Cooper Rush was in Dallas and on the talent that he had. Remember Cooper Rush in Baltimore? Yeah. Hey Baltimore, oh, not the right system. Dallas, Jerry Jones coming out saying he's supposed to be the guy. Remember that? He was supposed to be guys. He's supposed to replace Dac. They had people having a conversation that Cooper Rush was better for the offense than Dac press guy. Jerry, Jerry started that. I don't know who started it. But it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was being talked about. Yeah. But at the end of the day, it comes down to getting it done or not getting it done. And right now, nobody in Atlanta has gotten it done. And the guy that you thought that you're going to start the season with, he's heard. Don't know when he's going to come back. A bleak entry is hard for a quarterback to throw with those. It's harder to because all that rotation got to. Yeah. So it measures a way. It seemed like it would be a waste of talent because if you don't get a service of a quarterback back there, Uncle Ocho, with all that talent they got offensively and they got some talent on the defense as well. All the money that you spent. All the money that you spent to reach the resigning cow pits. Look at
the money that you gave. Be John. Look at the money that you gave Drake London. Those are three big ticket items that you paid a premium for. Yeah. And in order to maximize that, you need a quarterback that's going to be able to get them to ball. And right now they don't really have anybody that can get them ball. We're going to see what Cooper was going to do. Cooper was out of. Guys going to put you to ball down the field. I'm trying to get down the field. I'll them shallow crosses. Nice. Smoking bubbles. Great. That's nice. But man, I'm trying to get down the field 15, 20, 30 yards down the field. I ain't trying to be all that short. That short. I'll tell you what, when you when you when you pay your skill players, the kind of money they play in them, they got to elevate the quarterback being that they don't have a quarterback to elevate them. When you're paying, we paying you the big bucks for a reason. Now we have a weak spot. We have a link week offensively. Now we need y'all to raise y'all level of play. So he doesn't look like the week. Click on Sundays. Right. And that's that's like from your skill positions. Your wire receivers and tight ends creating separation. Hey, do where he on had these tight windows. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, probably going to be some tight windows, but they got to make them plays. Any contested catches, you got to make them plays. And be John got to be be John. Yeah. Got to.
I'm not letting be John Robinson beat me. So what you keep? I'm stacking the line. Yeah. I'm going to make Cooper Rush throw the down football down the field. I'm going to make him beat me. If he throws the ball for 300 yards and three touchdowns, I can go to the center field and shake his hands and good jobs to get staying up there and good luck down the road. I'm not going to let be John Robinson rush for 125 catch for another 55 and have two three touchdowns and 160 yards to pits. If Cooper Rush can find him. If Cooper Rush can hit him. Yes. I know what be John Robinson can do. I'm still not sure about Cooper Rush. I know what be John can do. I know those skills, but hand the ball off. I'm going to make him throw it. Yeah. Bad things can happen. I can make you to tip. I might get a drop. I can get anything. Just handed the ball off the be John and let him catch me five, six yards of clip. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But we're going to find out. We know. It's look. We've had two games. We had a Wednesday game. We had a Thursday game. But now we about to have a full slate. Everybody. Everybody. We're going to see what everybody's about to put some
on everybody's about to put some more take. Hello. Yeah. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody chatter and talking and what they going to do and who they going to be. I want to see it. I know who they going to be. I want to see it. Huh? I know what they're going to do down over there in that jungle. Yeah. Okay. Huh? And that five one three. Okay. I told you we're going to put up 42 on Tampa. I don't see how put them for the night. Yeah. I ain't with it. We're about them. Cowboys. But what y'all going to do? You know what I'm going to do. Prime time. Prime time. You know we're going to show up and show up. I'm going to tell you this too. Well, Dylan died his hair back. Back blonde. Yeah. You know what that mean? They played on Sunday night. You know those old old days. What he did? He reached back. Huh? Reach back. And he looked at any scene. It's like it's back there. I'm going back there somewhere. I ain't worried about all that. You show. I'm now. No. No. I want to play good now. But I don't know. I don't know if I don't think he's going to be able to beat us. Okay. If Malik neighbors. If Malik neighbors don't
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What's that? I really think y'all want some y'all want to eat this. But you can't, you scare up. No, I'm scared. I have nothing. I had that man ate them and tell him what had happened to me. I haven't had a heartbeat for 30 years. Take a bite in there. No, I'm good. They'll tell you what happened though. No, we can print the animal. Britch is like this,AY. Don't you, buddy. You're crazy. You're crazy. You're crazy. Truly fear is a fact, Robyn. Yeah. Chad wants to know, you went from the short shorts to the medium shorts. Yeah. This lady asked, and this will be the last year for Hootie Daddy shorts, please. Hey, wait, hey. That's when you got legs like this, you could do that, you hear me? Yeah. When you got legs like this, you could do that. Yeah. What you're talking about? And I got lotion on too. Look at the calves. I'm, what did you say? I got lotion on. I got lotion on. I got lotion on. I got lotion on. I got lotion on. I got lotion on. I got lotion on. I got lotion on. I got lotion on. You all trying to call me Assie? Man, you know, when you get out here in the West Coast, bro, you know, it's dry out here. Yeah. Well, I got the lotion you told me. I'm going to get it from CVS.
But you ain't, see, I darkened my mind up. What does that mean? You know, I add some oils, add some, you know, some, that's too much. That's too much. That's too much. That's too much. You be ass, you know, I hear a boy especially with your color. No, I ain't ass you, though. I'm good. I'm just saying, man, you got to, you know, get your good moisturizer, bro. I'm most right, Joe. Yeah. I look good, though. Yeah, yeah. You look like you got tattooed, but I can't tell, bro. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Man, this is so cute, buddy. Man, this is screaming on your leg. You know, they're my old killer whales. We got our best, best of luck. He joked at his head, though. He already looking like he got to talk some crazy. This is a bully thing. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. Go ahead, do what you're going to do, Joe. Go ahead, do what you're going to do, Joe. Huh? Y'all see who it is? Oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. And man, came with that action. Yeah. He got all four of his water, bro.
Oh, what about you? You think you got four of his water, bro? No, that's too much. There you go. We know it. I told him he said, hey, don't tell bud, nothing. He would go try to sneak it. That's why I started talking. Let you sneak him. I don't want to sneak him. Anything I do with bud is going to be head up in his face. Hey, man, stop it. But what's with this everybody challenge your bud? We got booze challenge you, ultra challenge you, everybody. Oh, wait, time I tell my disco bag, way back. This ain't nothing new. No. You ain't been on this work. What you talking about? You ain't been on this work. I've been telling the bud about 12 years. He saw my hands. He saw my hands when they were like, boy, hold on, none of that? Damn, bud. Yeah. I said, bud, look at that. Yeah. Look at his hands. Yeah. He got no boxes hands. He got no hard looking hands doing bud. No, he don't. But they're hurt. They call me hella hands.
We seen you fight. That count? Yeah, everything count. Hold on. Yeah. No, you see me fighting the structure environment that I've never been in. So you said I look a scale of what happens. Yeah, now that I would. Damn, bud. Hey, three fight. Me? Anybody? Oh, yeah, leave me out of that. No, no, no, no, no. I'm telling you. Hey, for somebody that never did, I want that band. I'll tell you what I'm about to say. Okay. So we know who we got here. We got 40-bit your champ. Three times three division. Undisputed. Legend. Icon. He walked away from the top of the game, but everybody trying to trick. Every time he says I'm leaving the job, pulling back here. Yeah. We had Dana White on. Dana said, look, me and, you know, what's Turk, Turk, if we can bring him the right fight, we believe we can get bud to come back. Is boosts in us the right fight to get bud crawled for the come out of retirement? The money right for us. The money right for us, we'll come back. In my agent. I guess you might have a target for it. No, I mean, no, I'm just listening.
We the A side, right? We the A side. To get us out of retirement, we need a hundred fifty million flat. You coming up for a hundred fifty million bud? I'm not retired, man. Bloodsady retired. I'm about to be thirty nine in a couple of weeks. I'm sorry. So ain't nothing can get you to come back in a row. Why do you want to jump on me, man? They see that they think you don't got old bud. They say they see the age of liar. Oh, he flew in blossom. People in blossom. People in blossom. People in blossom. Okay. I'm chilling. Hey, honestly, I'm chilling. You know what I mean? Because before, you know what I mean? I retired. There wasn't too many people jumping in calling for Terrence Cross. Right. So now that I'm retired, everybody, you know. They call it now. They call it now, it's your boy. Yeah. I think it's a good thing though. Do they really want to fight bud? Or they looking for a payday? I think it's the payday. Because they know good opportunity. Yes. You know, it's the payday and the opportunity. Okay. You know, they look at it and say, okay, we're going to get the highest check of our career.
Correct. It's due about to be 39, you know, in a couple of weeks on the 28th. Ah, he probably slowed down a little step into it. Maybe this the right time. You know, so everybody looking at chops at the bar. But you still, but you be posted. You still in the gym. Don't let him fool you not just because he said he retired. That don't mean he's just taken completely off. He ain't doing it. We're getting. He's still in shape. Yeah. I mean, you give my eight week camp and he ready. He going to be you ready to go, bud. You ain't fooling nobody now. Man, I'm chilling, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm enjoying everybody, you know, doing what they do. And, you know, supporting the sport of boxing. Yes. You know, from afar. And I'm loving it. Hey, hey, I know a man with a plan. I know when he laying low and playing slow. Yes, sir. You hear me? You know, I know, bud. Yeah, I know. I know. You know, he wanted to fight you for real though. Everybody want to fight. No, this guy, me. He said he called you. I said, you be hating on him. And he tied you eight. No, he's going to put a stop to that. Man, who that?
Ride. So we're running. Ryan, do this before all his fights. You know, Ryan said I ain't never fought no fast. Young Hungry Lions. Right. You know, he must ain't paid attention to my career. And look at the people that I fought coming up. Right. You know, from 140 to 150 to 135. Yeah. 140, sir. Like, it's cool, you know, for him to try to diminish. Yes. You know, the things that I've accomplished. But he, how, how is Ryan? I don't even know. How does Ryan? Ryan. Right. Ryan, Ryan been, you know, a big name in a sport for a long time. Right. You know, and he's a one time world champion. At 28. You know, just one time. Yeah. You know, and he's fought, you know, some, some, some marquee names.
But, dude, this your first title defense. You know, and, you know, you'll be, you'll be blessed. If you accomplish half of what I've accomplished in the sport of boxing. Right. You know, so why you sitting over there talking, you know, and trying to take credit away from one of the goats, you need to, you know, keep stirring up some great wins. You know, because we'll get on that level. Let's talk about this fight. Ryan Garcia, a counter being it. He's going to be seven. Who you like Ryan saying we have both of our fighters on Ryan said, look, they're paying me to beat up a novice. You talking about a guy that just got into the, I've been fighting since I was seven, eight years old. This guy just started fighting. He's 17 years of age. He said, it should be, it should be against the law. But they're going to pay me this kind of money. To beat, to beat a novice. So, listen. Sometimes he makes valent points.
Ryan does got the experience. Ryan, you know, is the favorite to win. Ryan, you know, have everything on his side to win this fight. Right. But that's not saying that he's going to win. You know, he's going to win. Right. Because I picked Ben because if he can take Ryan punches at 47, we know he can take it at 60 because we know Chris is a bigger puncher than Ryan. Right. But Ben, that counter had to suck down on 147. Which he didn't, a long time ago. He said four to half, five years. Right. And we seen his last fight, which wasn't at 160. He kind of, you know, he didn't look the same as he did at a higher weight. Okay. Low weight. Now he coming even lower. So, we want to see how his body absorbed the punches. Because we know Ryan got a good left foot. We know he's fast. We know he's sharp at times. But his skills ain't too.
You know, Shabby, if you asked me, when comparing to him fighting that seven and eight, you know. So, there's a lot of holes in this game because I don't think Roli started boxing at the seven or eight. Right. You see what Roli did with him. Right. So, there are going to be opportunities for Connor. Right. There's going to be opportunities for Ryan. So, whoever come more prepared and, you know, execute their game plan is going to win. What do we see with Ryan? I mean, we watched him against David. And he looked fabulous. And then we watched him against Roli. And then we watched him in some of his other fights. We like, bro, what are you doing? Why are you, why are you like this? You have so much talent. You're so skilled. Why not prepare every single fight like you prepare for diving? Styles make fights. Okay. You know, you can't go in the fight. You can't go in the fight thinking, oh, since I fought this guy this way, I'm going to fight this guy the same way because it's not going to happen.
Okay. You know, a lot of fighters, you know, going to fight and they try to do the same thing over and over. Okay. That's been successful previously against the opponents, but some fighters just not going. Right. You know, some fighters going to make you fight. Some fighters not going to let you, you know, get your favorite punch, you know, on them. You got to figure out another way to land these big shots and get the victory. You got to use something that you ain't been using in a while. You got to pull out some tricks and trades. You just can't do the same thing over and over. Then people are going to get the part of their difference. They go neutralize that. They know everybody. They know he's sitting on that. They're sitting on that. We're not going to let you get that off. Okay. Now what? You see what happened. You know what? So. As I was retiring, it had been so far.
Being away from the game, enjoying, not away from the game because you obviously commentating now, but just in retirement in general, how has it been? Great. Great. I've been enjoying the hell out of you know, I don't got to, I don't got to worry about nothing. What I do is enjoy life, travel the world and be a fan. Do you miss it at times? Because I think about when I retire, I'm not, I'm not sure how I don't feel. Maybe when jewelry tied, I still miss the game. I still miss it. So do you miss boxing, obviously, when you're having to commentating and watch other people fight? Do you still have the edge to compete? I'm always had the edge to compete. That's just me, not saying anything. But like in a ring, nah, not really. You know, because I don't, I did everything. Right. When I walked away, I was, I was like, I hope. You're the big and other beauties. You know what I mean? You can't, you can't do it no better than how I did what you did it. Yeah. You know, from how I started to how I finished, for how going against all the odds,
from promoters, from managers, from, you know, just so many people trying to pull and hold me back from nobody wanting to fight me. Right. You know, a lot of people, they say, oh, he ain't fought, nobody ain't fought these men. I came in, I didn't, I didn't want no tune ups. You know, I called out the biggest and baddest people in every division that I ever shed. At that time, yes, sir. I clean this division, it's on to the next. Yeah. I clean that division on to the next. I don't, I didn't feel the need to keep trying to defend my title at this weight division and fight these guys at this weight. I'm going to bigger and batter. Right. You know, so when I became underspittered at around 40, all right, I didn't clean that division out. Y'all say, ain't nobody down there. Let me go up to the next division and clean out. Now, y'all say that ain't nobody there. And let me go up there and clean out when I went to one, one, uh, uh, 54.
Yeah. I want to fight, Fendor the first, the first, uh, fight before that, I want to fight Australia. Good luck. Uh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Tim zoo. Oh, you know, I called, I wanted to fight Tim zoo, but Tim zoo, they, they fought each other. Tim zoo and Fendor. I asked the bloody fight. Yeah. Yeah. When you got cut. So I'm like, all right, well, let me fight, you know, who, who, who, who, who, who y'all got a 54 foot? Let me fight, let me fight Fendor. Yeah. They said, nah, he, he, he ain't fighting because he broke his nose or something. Hmm. You know, so I'm like, all right, well, who, who, who's, who's out there? Right. You know, my, I'm off with the number one guy in the division at the time. I'm fighting him then. Let me, let me get him then. Yeah. I don't need one of these. I don't know. I don't want to, you in one, two of you in one or two, no one at 54. Yeah. Give me the best at one 54. You think you didn't know what could do? Okay, I got him. Yeah.
Yes. You know, and I just tell to, you know, how I handle things. Yes, sir. I never, you know, I mean, shot away from the fight. Right. I got a question, I got one more question before you go. This question will let me know if you coming back out of retirement, fight at any point. I mean, I'm, man, I'm chilling. Oh, wait, just answer this. Yeah, I'm a South, just say it. Hold on, hold on, wait, wait, hold on. He said, wait, I'll let you work. That's how I have to beat you, uh-oh. You know what this works. What you, what you, what you, what fight to, man? What you fight to, man, boy? His weight? Huh. 185? You 185? No, I'm 205 right now. How about I say you little, dude? I come down, no? No, I'm fighting you at 205. Hmm. I don't got a way to it, I'm fine. But I would hurt you, bro. I don't know. I'm serious. Like, all jokes are sad. You might, you might do. I'm going to be asleep for a long time. I'll be back you. Did you hurt you? Huh? In your fight? Yeah. You're going to be sleeping this way. You been dropped before? No. You went down. No. But I got up, though. No, but you're going to be asleep this way. I guarantee you won't drop me. That's you.
No, I will fall. You got to have a hair get up. He got to have a hair get up. I don't know. I'm knocking him out with the hair get up. You knocking him out with hair get up. Come on, come on, boy. What's that? That I dropped you? What you want to bet? What you want to bet? I'm not. Whatever you were willing to do. Oh, my God. Oh, I'm not going to bet. You're going to put money on him. He betting on blood. You betting against me? I don't bet. I'm not a better. No, I don't bet against him. I don't care. But you're going to bet against your cause? Joe, how much you got on my face? Yes, I'm about to bet. I'm trying to come up. I can't hear what he's saying. You're not going to go on my side? I'm going to put 50 on you and 250 on blood. 50 what? 50 what? Yeah. Okay, bet. How many rounds? I want to run a clock. I want to run a clock. No rest. Damn. I got an M-Snow drop you. I got two. With head gear? Well, you could drop it with head gear for the man. What size gloves you use it? You open for the M-Snow? You open for the M-Snow? You got it.
16. You got to go 16. I'm dropping you. You dropping him with 16 hours gloves and head gear? Oh, my mama. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. You put it on his mama. He ain't playing now. I get my boots on. I see y'all. With a body shot, you can drop it with a body shot. Head on matter, man. It's a body shot, the head shot. I'm dropping it. Oh, too. Funny thing about it is I'm going to throw the distance. He ain't going to get inside. Oh, too. Who do you think you're talking to? Oh, so you see how long my, my, my, my, my, my, my, you, my, you see, I'm a big call me bird. Nick, what are you talking about? Yeah. She might bring spas. Not each chicken. Not each chicken. I need chicken. Now, I ain't one of them. You can get this work. Man, let's start the contract, oh, that's it. That's an easy two-man. Wait a minute. Tell Dana, give us a little extra business. No, no, we don't need Dana. No. We can just go to the gym right after this. I'm going to make up. I'm going to make the money, though. You just, you just said you're going to put your money up. Okay, we get the smallest of command, you know. No, we don't need no sponsor. You got, you got two men.
Yeah, but I want you to. Hold on. I want you to. Hold on. I want yo money. I want yo money. Time out. So I want no sponsor. Hold on. So I'm just whooping your ass for free? No, you just beg me. Okay. You just say it. You know what? If I want yo money. I want yo money. I don't know about it. That's what you want. You know what. Her, too, where you losing it. And you're like, ah, that's dumb, you know. It's like, man, I just loved to. It was some dumb, smarty. I feel that I was a boy. I was gonna stay here, be like, come on, man, you know we did that for show. I don't do that for show. Hey, but you want cash or wire transfer? How you want it? I want to wire. Oh, okay. Just wire to me. Hey, you know what, man, we ain't got a deal with no cash. I don't know if you're giving me fake money, no, nothing. We ain't got to deal with none of that. I don't know issues. But you fought it 54. And then you say, you know what, damn 60. I want this. I want this thing.
There's a guy at the top of the mountain. Everybody's been talking about it. And everybody, and we've seen people, and it's for whatever reason, when they go to fight it, they fight good at every division. But soon as they get to him, they shy away from it. And I sat down and talked, I said, I've talked to a lot of guys, boxing and UFC, and they's like, then they say all this. I said, bud crawls is the only guy that I saw the cross from. And I could look at him and tell, I said, he made every damn thing he said. I said, he said, he's gonna beat it. Everybody keep talking about, can I take his power? What are you gonna do when I touch him? Can he take my power? When did you realize in that fight? I'ma beat this dude. When he saw him in concert. If you notice, I been calling out Canelo when I was at 147. I wanted to go from 147 all the way up to 168 to 5, so that wasn't nothing.
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he was a slow motion because Ocho and I we're that the fight. And we're watching this and I'm like man, but it's literally I don't know what they saw around the game. I don't know what they saw. Now, it was just that I'm a student of the game. Okay. And I've been watching boxing and studying boxing every since I was a little kid as well as being an active boxer. So being a fan of Canelo for all his career, I just knew what he was going to do when he was going to do it because Canelo is Canelo. What you see is what you get. He might have slowed down a little bit, moving up in weight divisions. But he's got stronger. You know, so me sparring these big dudes and taking eight punches, I'm just like, man, this dude a heavyweight or this dude 200 pounds.
You know, I know, I know Canelo ain't that big. Right. So, but who knows? Canelo might push harder. You know, so I was just like, man, I always say, if I take your punch, you in trouble. Why don't they give you more credit for being a student of the game? We hear all these other boxes, they're a student of the game and that box of IQ is so high, but they never give you that, they never give you that credit. They just like, bud just got dog in it. Bud just, bud just fight you. Why don't they give you the credit that they give some of these other students of the game? I think it's just politics. Right. You know, and following, I mean discredit my whole career. You know, I'm used to it. Right. It ain't nothing to me. You know, like, A, history is made. You can't, you can't tarnish what's in black and white. See, minted. Three division, undisputed. Five division, wild champion.
Unified and four divisions. Yeah. The acu-lays go on and on, like, bud. But even if you were to come back, bud, what, what, I mean, come back for what and do what? They do. So even if, let's just say for the sake of argument, you were to come back, you beat boots. Everybody's gonna say, you should have beat boots. You better fight it in boots. So I'm, for me, yeah, I would love to see you fight again, but deep down inside, when I think about it, what are you coming back for? They're gonna say, oh, well, you're more approved. We know, you know, the type of fighter is you as fighting who compared the type of fighter is you as fighting. Right. Bootstitch is a talented fighter. We just wanna see more. Just like they say with me. Right. Everybody say, oh, well, bud, we know you fought this guy. We wanna see more. We wanna see you fight this dude. We wanna see you fight this. All right, well, put them up. Right. Put them up here. There was no case where it was a,
a virtual and boot situation with me other than spints and crofford. Right. Because anybody that they mentioned, I was fighting. All right, who? This guy, this guy, besides Keith Thurman and Danny Garcia. Right. Which both, I try to fight. I try to fight Keith Thurman when I moved into the division because he was the number one guy in the division at the time. I went straight to him. Like, I wanna fight Keith Thurman. He said he ain't got no belt. He said, why is we talking about this guy at 140 and he ain't even fought at 147. Danny Garcia, I want five million dollars to fight on. All right, well, you, Tom Rank said you pricing yourself out, you don't wanna fight. Right. I wanna fight everybody. You know, it's a reason why they say, oh, well, he ain't fought this dude and he fought these dudes then. Man, they ain't nobody. They ain't wanna fight then, but now they wanna fight. Got to pay the, they pay the dollar, bud. Now, do you say they was asking for five million then they're gonna be asking for 25 now?
She's. You like bud like now? Now, when I won the fight, when I was hot, y'all ain't won the fight. Now y'all not hot. And I'm still hot. I ain't got nothing for you. But I told you the minimum for us to even come out every time, it's 150. My age. That's the minimum. Oh, you're coming from 150? We, what? Shh. I be a, I've won. I'm coming over high and break J.U.A. I ain't damn being mad. For 150, I'm dragging you in. I'm the big, I'm the big deal. I do the whole camp too. I'm the wide-beater cut man, boy. What the fuck? What the fuck? What? Ooh. Ain't been a whole 150 billion dollar pay day, bud. Listen, listen. He wrote with a man like, No man. No man. I'm just laughing at it because, you know, when you look at history, it's like everybody has so much to say about his parents, Crawford, in a negative way. How bad of a businessman I was, how I was this, I was that out in my resume,
this and I was that, but now, look at what we talking about paying me 150 million or 100 million to come back. If I don't, if I don't have that big of a fan base, if I'm not, if I'm a nobody, nobody knows me. This is what a lot of people say, oh man, don't nobody know him, you know. Why everybody trying to give me the fight? Cause you gonna fight? That's what nobody's ever said anything. No, I'm saying, but. Because you are, you, you it. But for, I know, I know what I am, but I'm just saying. Cause people, yeah, but people try to put that out there in the, people that don't know boxing, they run with it. Oh man, he don't nobody know who but is man, I go all over the world and people like, hey, man, let me get a picture of the turnscrow, the turnscrow. It's a reason why me and Canelo fight, did what it did and still to this day,
it holds the fucking record at a lesion stadium. It's crazy, you know, and Canelo couldn't do that by himself. No, no. When you look at Canelo pass fights, it's like, all right, well, if Canelo did that by himself, then why he didn't do it before me? Yeah. They try to discredit you, but they can't discredit you. Same way with Spence. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, you did. Cause I heard that he wasn't the same as he was in the car. No, I'm saying, I'm saying. They try to discredit you for beating or fight. Yeah. The numbers that we did with our fights is like, I was in that fight too. Why he didn't do that before me? Yeah. You know what I mean? But you know when you become great, they're gonna try to discredit your great. All the time. Anybody that's ever became great, they've tried to discredit them once they became great. And people don't see what it took for you to get the word you got to. Everybody just see what he just beat Canelo. Bro, the man has been fighting down in 20 years. Canelo was the last fight. What about those other 41 fights that he had before Canelo?
Y'all just talk about the one fight. What about the other 41? What about the training? People always, and I told Wies talking about this conversation last night. But people don't want to build anything. They just want to move in. I said that. People don't want to see what Bud did to get the word he got to. Man, he took a short, how? What's your cut, take you 20, 20, 30 years to get to? Yeah. Yeah. But you hear what people say. I'm glad you're not seduced by that. I'm gonna prove y'all wrong. I'm gonna fight. I jump up here. No, no, I got to prove it. I've improved it. I proved it over 30 year career. That's the thing that I said I was gonna do. I did. To a team. So now y'all try to come up with these scenarios that try to entice me to come. I ain't got you. I ain't got no habit. I ain't got no habit. And I ain't got no money problem. That's not what you ain't got no habit. You can have money. Hey, right. You got habits, money.
And they bad that, you know what I mean? I was smart with my money. They bad that I didn't have no, you know what I mean? Crazy habits. Let me ask you this. Shakur got upset with me. I say, in Ocho, Shakur is one of Ocho's favorite guys. I say Shakur. I'm not taking anything away from your ability to fight. You're a great fighter. I say, but your style is not entertaining to me. That's just, I'm one person. I said, I said you would say, but with your nod, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, you say that I don't know boxing? I said, but let me tell you something. The people that don't know boxing, those are the ones that buy the tickets. The officials, not those. They're not paying 15, 20, 30 thousand dollars to see a fight. He made a point. What's the point? Talk to him. You know what I mean? About you not knowing boxing because you saying that you don't like his style, but at the same time, you like boxing. Yes. But his style is the art of boxing. So how can you say you don't like his style,
but you like boxing? You don't like boxing. You just like fighting. Can I like, can I like, can I like, can I like basketball and not like LeBron James playing style? But I'm saying basketball and boxing is two different things. It's the same thing. What, what, what preference would a person like? It's an opinion. Boxing is the art of not hitting, not getting hit. OK. So when we talk about boxing, we talk about the martial arts of hit and not getting hit. Yes. So I understand, you know, over the years, reading God's spoil with some massive fights that, you know, blood and sweat and we just like men. That's what we want to see because it's exciting. Yes. You know, and you're not wrong for wanting to see the fights that you like that's exciting to you. But when we say we, we, we a fan of the sport of boxing, yes. You know, you got to be a fan of, you know, I'm not saying you got to be, but you should be a fan of Shakur Stevenson, Floyd Mayweather because they mastered the sport of boxing.
But Floyd, Floyd didn't lie to weight before them. Hands got brittle. You know what Floyd was doing. Floyd was Floyd's people. Floyd was remote abotten people at 40. And Floyd was carrying people. It wasn't people. People just look at Floyd at 47, late in his career when his hands got brittle. And then he's like, you know what? I can't take no chance because when he hit old boy and he took that knee, he's like, that change is fighting from that point on. Floyd really didn't fight the same weight. And people talk about, well, Floyd, you ain't seen nobody walk through for it. At no weight at 40, at 47, 54, he ain't nobody walk through him if he went punching. Okay. So you hear what you just said? Yes. Who have you seen walked through Shakur? I ain't seen him fighting nobody. Ha, you lie. Ha, ha, ha. He, what did you look? When he fought, uh, Tio Fimo, and uh, what's the other guy? Uh, Zepato? Zepato. Mm-hmm. Tio Fimo, Tio Fimo then walked through. No, no, I'm saying. Don't, don't for me.
But here's the thing, but I saw him in his hometown and people were leaving. You saw that. You saw him. I was into the fight. Huh? I was into the fight. You, you saw it. I was into the fight. You saw it, but I see nothing. You, I was watching the fight. So you didn't hear the, you didn't hear, so you didn't hear about that? No, I'm watching the fight. But don't do that, bud. I'm not, I'm dead serious. But people, I'm not watching the crowd, you know what I mean? So if people get a fight. If people were to get up, what would that tell you? If people were to get up, you fighting. And people get up and leaving. And you see 15, you see 30, 40, 50, 100, 200 people leaving. I'm not gonna see nothing, cause I'm fighting. No, I'm sorry. She took my five-footed thing, but the thing, if somebody came after the fight, like, bud. But you, that's not your style. I have people booing me before. Early in your career, bud. I ain't talking about, yeah, I didn't care. That, that's what God didn't know who'd bud cross it with me. That's because they didn't like that I was boxing. They didn't like that, you know, I wasn't, and they were engaging in a, back and forth fight.
So they was booing, oh, boo. That they changed you up? No. So when did you, when did you adopt? I get shot in the next one. This one, I got it. I'm just gonna win this one. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna get an exciting fight in the next fight. Yeah, that's right. Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. Okay. Okay. Alright, I appreciate that light, but I appreciate that. Cause I'd be looking, cause I'm looking, I grew up in Sugar Ray, Tommy Hurts, Marvin Hagler, Roberto, guys that were just, say's our shavis, guys with that, but they fold in. And Sugar, sometimes Sugar, he had boxing. Yeah. Uh-uh. He tried to look at that with the red and he see what it cost. It is sometimes the red in a boxing. Yeah. Yeah. So this is, this is my thing about a lot of people on the outside. Okay. That never been in the ring, criticized boxers for not, standing toe to toe and just banging each other out. Right. Getting the ring and try it. I just want you all to get in the ring and try it. And then I have a different approach on fighters.
I have more respect on fighters that hitting, I get it. I think it's hard, I don't think it's way harder to hit somebody stand in front of them and not get hit. Yeah. It's way harder than just sitting there right here. Pop, pop, pop, that's easy. That's why if you notice, it's so hard for them fighters to beat the caliber fighter like a Floyd Mayweather in Shakur, you know, because they can't keep up. They mentored. They're not the, the thing that you do have to admire about Floyd in Shakur is that they're not gonna let you love them into fighting their style of fight. You're gonna fight the style of fight that I want to fight. No, it's like if I hit you, you know what I mean? And you try to come back and I'm, and I miss it. And you miss me every big shot that you're taking. You like, I can't, it's discouraging. And now I'm getting pushed all upside my head. And then when I do get, get close to you.
You tied me up. It's frustrating. All right, well you hook, oh Shakur, okay. You got me. What? Tell me. Tell me your apologize. I apologize for you. I apologize. But, but I got the utmost respect for Buddy. Buddy, say, hey, that's the only thing exciting. I'm gonna take Buddy at his word. Four time, undisputed champ, five division champ, Terrence Budcroft. Quick, man, I will beat you up, man. Put your money on me. Can we do a face off real quick? Hey, he not strong. He not strong, but like you. Hey, don't you grab me like that, no, dude. I'm gonna get my face off real quick. Come on, let's do it. Buddy, you still got the old choke. I used to wrap three times, like 10 to the rest of it. Yeah, bud. Hey, I'm gonna choke you. Oh, oh, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I knew it, God. He said, yeah, my dude, like I'm gonna beat you up. I'm gonna beat you up. I know, I know. I told you. I know, I know. I know, I know. He just won.
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