Projecting the 12 CFB Playoff Teams with Danny Kanell, Plus the Fake 49ers Player

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2:18$50 in rewards issued every seven days via click-to-claim for 21 days. One non-withdrawable reward redeemable. Terms at dkng.co-slashoffer. Limited time offer. Nationwide based on sportsbook predictions and free-to-play sports contest availability varies by state. College football season, we are in it week zero, a huge win by Florida State. Probably won't spend a ton of time on that, but great time to have a Tallahassee legend, one of the all-time great-standing canal, good friend of the program. Cover three serious XM with Roy Phil Pot and Brian Kelly joining him weekly this season. What's up Danny? What's up, man? Yeah, thanks for not spending too much time on the Florida State win, first to Mexico State, but a win is a win. I kind of like, I kind of like in Mexico State's quarterback. I did too. He was like, he was crafty and a little shifty. I'm going to the SMU game Monday night. So I'll actually be there. Rare games just go as a fan, no work, because it's Labor Day Monday. I'll be up there, bringing my two younger daughters, Courtney's going. She was saying this is the first time we've ever been to a game together.

3:21She doesn't know what she's getting into. So we'll see. It's a great atmosphere. I, I, I, Florida State, college football is better when Florida State is really good, but we'll see. See, uh, we're actually for every appearance that you have on the show, this season we've decided to buy you a Castelanos O'Huddy. So from his website, I was looking at it, this week still up, still active, the shirt's still available. So I think every time you come on, we'll get you the gray one. Perfect. Um, what a short sleeve hoodie. I like that. Well, the shorts, yeah, we can work on it. So the exercise here is to try to put together a 12 team playoff field. This is, it's always been the hardest sport because it turnover and now I think it's never been harder. Just the assumptions that you're sitting there and I've been joking with people like every single team time you read a team preview, the rounding up on every single transfer is like, hey, this transfer is going to be awesome. And this fills the need and all this different stuff. So, uh, let's start in the big 10 because it feels like at least on paper, the three teams,

4:23you know, how state Indiana, Oregon are kind of everybody's favorites. Other people are picking Texas Notre Dame, maybe even Georgia and all that kind of stuff. But like I would understand, if somebody said, Hey, I think right now in paper, those three teams are better than any top teams in the other conferences. I'd have a hard time arguing it. So go through the big 10 for me and we'll kind of throw it back and forth here. So I've got in the big 10 Oregon over Ohio states in the big 10 title game with Oregon, avenging their regular season loss because they play in Columbus, right? In the regular season. I have that as Oregon's only loss on the schedule. But I have them beating them in a rematch in Indianapolis in the big 10 title game. So I've got Oregon versus Ohio State. Okay. So that's big 10 title game or not. 10 title game. Okay. So I am, that was probably. So when I did my bracket, I cannot help myself because I don't like watching chalk. I've actually got two

5:24three surprises, two teams that I have in and one team that I have out. And I know everybody's like, be careful, doubting Kirk's dignity. Like you better watch out for it. You know, be careful, doubting, you know, Indiana Hoosiers. I think they're really good. I think there are two ways they could be out. Obviously, or nine and three, I think they're out, which I don't think is without, you know, out of the realm of possibility. The other thing I think they have to be careful with is if they're 10 and two, there are other teams that are going to be in this playoff conversation that I think you could possibly see a nine and three team jump a 10 and two team. Kirk's saying that he's been so vocal about not playing those three non-conference cupcakes. Their schedule is the toughest that's been in his tenure. And I think there's still a lot that they have to replace. Not to mention the number one overall pick in Heisman Trophy winner who did bail them out in a couple games in big spots that I just don't know if I have confidence in whether it's in Josh Hoover or the whole Indiana program that they'll just be right back up there.

6:29I think it's a little bit of a setback year for Indiana. So I actually have them missing the playoffs in my bracket. But if you said, you know what, how dare you do that? I'd be totally fine with it. Like if we're building a bracket together, if you said Indiana's got to be in there, I would totally understand that. I just think there might be a little bit of a regression from this team. Yeah, look, I understand it because it's just it's hard to imagine like, hey, you're just going to go back to back and have that same kind of season. And it frustrates me a little bit when people talk about teams and say, oh, they're going to have their slip up as if 11 and 1 is bad. Like it's just people, people act like 12 and 0 for these top teams is a certainty. And I just don't like when people talk about teams being like, I either going to have their slip up. The transfer portal class is kind of loaded though. Like I like Hoover right now better than I liked Mendoza a year ago. I really like Hoover. They added two more stud receivers. They burning in turbo richer at the running back from BC. They already had a pretty good offensive line, but they added

7:30another one from Wisconsin. They're missing some defensive line and stuff. So they loaded up on depth there. They brought in this corner from the SCS who everybody said was like the best player in the SCS. So I think they're a valuation in what they've done the last two years. You kind of have to give them the benefit of the doubt and the fact that apparently whatever signety does when he brings these guys in there, like they just look like the smartest football team. So I think Indiana has to be in there totally fine with that. Totally get why you would say that too. So and I think they'll start off 6 and 0 and where you know, Joshua, who probably puts up big numbers. I do think the stretch when they have Ohio State at home at Michigan, USC and Washington. I think people are sleeping a little bit on Washington. I think Washington will be in the playoff conversation now. They finish out at Indiana or Indiana at Oregon. So I don't think they I don't think they ultimately make it, but I think they could beat Indiana as well coached as Indiana is. The one thing that always gives

8:31well coach teams that are so disciplined or mobile quarterbacks in tomorrow. Williams is a very, very dangerous liability. Now clearly Indiana is a better team. This kind of goes back to like just chalk and putting things down and just yep, they're going to go win that game. Seattle's a tough place to play. I think Seattle, I think Washington's going to be a really good team. It's across the country. I just think Indiana has several more tests this year than even they've had the last couple years on their schedule where they could falter. But I'm totally okay if we keep Indiana there. Yeah, the test thing is, I mean, no test two years ago and then failed both tests. Then last year to see what they do against Ohio State. And just, you know, I was reading through that again. And it's like, hey, they went for the field goal and fourth and one. I was like, well, they went for the they went for the field goal because they didn't like running at Indiana's defensive line. Like Ryan Day and that group made a decision being like, we don't think our guys are going to win that one yard. And that was something that was playing out in that game. And it's like, okay, so there's that physicality. And then they put it on Oregon in a way where you're like,

9:35oh, my God, you know, like what? This is getting ugly. And then Miami, you know, it was obviously, Miami has a chance to even pull that thing off on the last throw with Beck, but Indiana certainly felt like the better football team for three hours. So I know a lot of those pieces are gone. They lose eight players of the NFL draft, which is maybe the craziest thing you'll say about any like Indiana. Oh my God. How are they going to do it again? The Hoosiers lost eight players to the NFL draft. I didn't ever expect to say something like that. When you look at those three teams and you're going with Oregon, why Oregon over the other two? I feel like Oregon is the where Clemson was before they broke through. Like they were kind of knocking on the door. And remember Clemson was a thing. Remember it was like, oh, they're going to Clemson. Now their issue was they were falling against bad teams, like it's kind of surprise upsets and not, you know, not being able to finish games. Oregon is a position where they've been really good through the regular season. They've gotten the part that they've had a couple ugly losses in the playoffs. I think they're the best roster top to bottom. And it's way more than just on Te more. I think

10:40the defensive line is one of the best defensive lines in the country. I get probably the biggest concern for me is losing both coordinators, but for Tosh Lupoy on the defense side of the ball, losing your defensive coordinator. Dan landing is a defensive guy. Like I feel like they'll be fine. And then on the offensive side of the ball, I think Will Stein was a really good play collar. They're staying in house with true marriageer. They're all offensive coordinator, but he's going to have weapons galore. We already saw what De Coria Moore could do last year as a true freshman. Evan Stewart with Dan landing told us he had, you know, his best off season so far. Former five star, I think he could absolutely pop. They've got depth. I just think I think it's their time. I think it's that time that they break through the schedule is probably one of the more favorable ones out of all the teams in the top 10. So I think they should be pretty healthy. So yeah, and I'm a believe I liked on Te more a ton. I think he does take that next step forward. In some of their bigger games, kind of vanish a little bit. Even I went and watched him in person against Texas Tech in the orange bowl started off. You're like, oh, this is the guy I want to see.

11:42He kind of came back to Earth a little bit. They didn't need him as much because they ended up shutting out Texas Tech. Then of course, he starts off the Indiana game tough with the pick six to D'Angelo Ponds. I think he's going to make big strides forward. So yeah, I've got the war. I've got the ducks. The sort of this is sort of their breakthrough year for Dan Lamp. They feel like they've been knocking on the door. They just kind of need to break through it. Loaded at receiver. There's like three other younger recruits that are all top guys too that we're not even talking about between McLean and Stewart and Moore. You could make some issues with the tackle situation. Somebody's going to have to pop with the guys that they brought in. The interior is pretty good. Linebackers, edge guys, tackles, feels like they're fine. They bring in that safety from Minnesota that everybody's raving about in every single preview that I read about. I'm kind of with you on that. I picked Oregon two years ago and I get in the habit to of trying to figure out a way to be a little bit different with the predictions of this stuff. There's just times that they've lined up against the big boys the last couple of years where it's kind of horrifying. Whether it's

12:44your high-o-state game from two years ago, you're like, how the hell did you guys beat this team earlier in the year? I think one of the best things about that Ohio State game when they lost at Eugene was like you felt so much better about Ohio State's quarterback because you were kind of like, all right, well, even though they lost here. Then they go on to win the whole thing. I'm with you. I'm picking Oregon. I'm picking Oregon to be in the title game on top of everything else. We'll see whether or not I picked him to win a national championship for a fourth one from four different teams of the big 10. But the running backs are great. I like more a lot too. I think the coordinator thing is probably more problematic on the will-stein part of it than Tosh being a cow. These teams, the all three of these teams are loaded and that brings us to Ohio State because they had 14 players start all, or let me say that again. Nine of their defensive players, they had such continuity on defense. Nine of the guys that started all 14 games from them were gone on defense. But you go through all the recruiting stuff. You're like, oh, that guy was

13:48a five-star edge guy. He's second in the depth chart right now. I was looking at their depth chart this morning and there's these top recruits from two classes ago. I'm like, none of these guys are even starters yet. This is ridiculous. Part of it's a transfer part of it. Ohio State is always going to do well in the portal. I just like saying it. I think at one stretch last year, not only did I think he was going to win the Heisman, I thought he was playing like the best. Now, I brought up something with Stanford Steve and then somebody hit me up afterwards and I'm going to ask you this. It's like, Saiyan's completion percentage is nuts. The yards per attempt is actually pretty good. But they were like, look, there's a little bit more in there with Saiyan where it's a depth of target thing and it never really felt like they let him be unleashed because after the Texas game, they just destroyed everybody. They had a really easy stretch for their schedule. Do you think Saiyan is like, clearly there's another level to him. But do you think he's actually capable of looking like the best quarterback in college football this year?

14:50I wouldn't predict it. He's got to prove it. So I thought he was close to perfect, like through most of the season. But he also, I think he was sacked 11 times over the first 12 games and then he was sacked 12 times in the next two games and the next two two losses. Like because his, the key was executing to perfection, but everything was so clean. It was like, and I want to see how a quarterback plays when he's under duress, when he's getting more pressure. And it wasn't like he cost them the game versus Indiana. It wasn't on him. It wasn't like it cost him the games against Miami when they lost in the playoffs, but he was not a difference maker in those games. That to me is where he'll have to step up. And I think Texas is a great challenge for him because that one will be one where I don't think it'll be like last year's game. What was it? 14 to seven? And both teams were like protecting their young QBs, making their first start. I think you have to cut it loose a little bit. My thing is how does he handle the pressure? And both types of pressure. One, the pressure that comes

15:51with how I would stay quarterback, but after you've dealt with adversity, people are kind of looking at him. And I want to see how he handles the pressure on the field when he is facing those more elite defenses. So I thought like he, like, no complaints about Julian Sam, but I do think he has to take a step up in that next level when he's getting more pressure in his face because I do think they're going to face some tougher defenses, including that one and Austin week two. Yeah, it doesn't matter, but you know, Texas outgained him three, 36 to two, three last year. So it wasn't like, you know, both quarterbacks were very limited in that game. You end up having the interception that kind of turns the entire tide of the thing. I didn't necessarily feel like because of the yardage part of it, that the wrong team won, but it was just a slugfest where it was even more of a slugfest, not just because of the defensive talent, because it was pretty clear. Both play collars were like, we're going to take it easy on our guy. There's a saying number. Go ahead. I was going, I want, like, I always look for who do you think has, you know, find some holes in this team. And you mentioned all the losses on defense. That is going to be unbelievable to fill in. So I thought

16:54there's a chance that Ohio State could be nine and three because their schedule is probably one of the toughest in the country. But then you go look in the last time they didn't have nine wins was 2011, you know, and that was sort of an anomaly. Like they churn out double digit win season. So when is it going to come? You can look really foolish trying to predict that. I also think they could be better on the offensive side of the ball and be just as good as they were last year, but have a worse record. Like there is a, like, watch out for the Iowa game. That one's a sleepy. I had a lot of Ohio State fans making fun of me because I included that as part of like the five games that are really tough for Ohio State playing on the road there. Phil Parker is a great defensive coordinator. I think that's a tricky game on the road at Indiana at USC. I mean, their schedule is absolutely brutal. I think they could make the playoffs at nine and three. I do think we're going to see a nine and three team in the playoffs this year. Texas and Ohio State are probably the two teams, I think, the most likely to be that candidate. But even when I say that, a host day fans are like, oh, there's no chance we're going to be nine and three. And it is impossible when

17:58you look at the history of success. But these schedules are absolutely brutal. And I think all those teams are improved that they're playing against. Ohio State schedule is legitimately tough. I don't know how many more teams like this are going to play Texas or I don't know how many times Texas is going to play in Ohio State now with the nine conference games across the board for both of the big conferences in the CC and big 10. It sucks. And it used to be like one of those arguing things where you were like, well, why am I arguing? Like if this team never plays anybody at a conference, this plays this team, it's kind of the Texas argument at bit last year. So if we had just not played Ohio State and decided to play, you know, whoever writes, then then we're in the playoff. And so it's hard as an AD and a staff to go, there's value in this until you see the committee try to look at things a little bit more open-minded. And this isn't an argument that Texas ultimately like should have been in the playoff. I was fine with how it all played out last year, even though the Notre Dame Miami thing just felt like a shitty situation really more than it was like I was in fatically in favor of one team over the other. So I'm with the honor of Ohio State part of this.

19:03There's a number here on saying and this may be a little unfair. But if you look at some of the quarterback stuff that happens and what he's done against powerful ranked teams last year, as opposed to the unranked teams, it's pretty alarming. Like his QBR against ranked teams, you two and two, a 59.2 QBR against unranked power four teams, a 92 QBR. Like he's the numbers there tell you there's a significant drop off. But you know what? There's a lot of guys that like eat statistically against the eight unranked P four teams and then have, so he is not alone on that. That's not something like, oh, he went saying that's to play the big boys, he's a completely different guy. Well, the stats will tell you that. But the stats will also tell you about the same story with so many of these other top quarterbacks. So I don't want to be like entirely unfair, even though that drop off seemed significant. But I think that's the bar that you have to meet as Ohio State quarterback because they could have an incredible season. But if he's two and two

20:06against some of these top opponents, they're going to fall short of their expectation, which is a national championship team. Like very clearly, he's capable of leading the team to really good wins, but can he lead him to a national championship? That's what I was talking about. Like under pressure under the rest against those better defenses, he starts to prove it to me that he can step up in those in those games. It's totally fair. Indiana though, I'm with you. I didn't leave that game going, oh, saying it's just not the guy. I would say to your point on like surviving some of these plays and having to figure out a way to make it happen. There was some stuff against Miami where you're like, okay, so now that this whole thing's disrupted, then there's no chance of any like putting the cape on like some of the other guys that you expect that you know are at this level in high and favorite and potentially a national championship. You mentioned, what about USC? So I have USC in my playoff. Yeah, so I'm bullish on USC. I had Michigan too, but that's a wild card. So I had totally okay if we leave them out, but I have USC as a playoff team. I think

21:08Lincoln Riley came into I talked to him at big 10 media days. He had sort of a confidence about him, asked him about it. This was before swagger. Did he have a little swagger? He had more confidence that we've seen out of him being there the last few years. And he was talking about how the continuity across the board, like they just moved into a new practice facility. They have a new athletic director, like their stability. He's like the amount of returning players that they've got on the team. And that was before he lost his starting center. So that's a piece that's questioned after that. I think Jay, so my, so my, my was my husband pick coming into the season, because I think he's outstanding. Really went over back. Yeah. Yeah. I love him. They're young pieces, which, I mean, I get a little bit of a cheat code now because I saw him play in their first game. But Mark Bowman, the five star tie-down is supposed to be, you know, people are comparing him to potentially to Brock Bowers. The other kid, the freshman Trent Mosley, who had 118 and a touchdown in their first game. Grandad San Jose State. He popped. They've got depth at running back. We already knew

22:09that was going to be a position to strengthen. And the question mark, I would have like the defensive side of the ball. Lincoln Riley teams have always, let's say they've not been the most physical on the defensive side of the ball. I think the Gary Patterson higher defensive coordinator was big. Just from somebody who kind of does have that edge, just got a lot of experience. I think their defense is probably better than they're going to get credit for. Even in the game against San Jose State, Lincoln Riley made it clear. Those were third stringers that gave up 23 points in the fourth quarter. I thought it was exactly the performance you would want. You know, some of their tougher games are at home in the Coliseum, where I do think it'll be crowded. Those games, even though it wasn't. I just, humidity was an issue out here. Unreal humidity. Yeah. But even that, I mean, I don't know, we ever really thinking that they were going to be sold out even if it's 70 degrees in sunny minutes. That's the crowd that they haught. Like, why do we still make this a thing? It is what they are. It's kind of like Miami with hurricanes. It'll be sold out when they play against Ohio State when they play against Oregon at home. We know that. That's what they are. But I think

23:12they're a really good football team. And I think Jade Mila is this pretty special quarterback. You mentioned Michigan quick. And I got to keep it moving here because it's going to turn to a big 10 preview. I have to see it with Underwood. I've got to see them on the games before I would have any. I love winning him. I love what they've done with the staff. We expect that they're going to just be a brutal out. They're going to be a tough team to play. But Underwood was underwhelming, like in a big way. So I like them is because he was 11 touchdown nine exceptions. He was bad. If he just gets to average and they had nine wins on the season, if they get to add a quick quarterback play, which I think Jason Beck is a really good play car or you utilize his legs some more, that is a big step of faith. They'll for me to say that Bryce Underwood is going to take that step. He's got to prove it first. Netflix is expanding its NFL coverage in 2026. From week one to the first ever Thanksgiving Eve matchup and two Christmas day games and a playoff game in January week one of the upcoming NFL season will feature the leagues first ever regular

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25:22in the SEC. I love the Keelan Russell move to go ahead and go with the young player over Austin Mack. I think he could be really, really special. With the turnover and offensive line to go with the freshman QB, like he must be and considering that the other guy's been, you know, the boys guy. Yeah. Yeah. Like this, it must be really impressive from Keelan. I think he's all, I mean, clearly, he's a runner. I mean, if you see what he did in this spring game, I think that element probably could play into this because if the offensive line is struggling, I think Keelan Russell could be a mix of Jalen Monroe and Ty Simpson. Like, and I think Kalen DeBoer will have an absolute field day working with somebody like that. I think their defense is going to be good. That's another rematch that I've got. I've got Georgia losing in the regular season at Alabama and then getting the best of them in a rematch in the SEC title. All right. So, Bama's offensive line. I am a little worried about. And then again, that's probably why Keelan make it the notary. It might just be that

26:22talented. The receiver part of it, I think it's going to be fine. I don't know why Ryan Williams, Ryan Coleman Williams, why he turned into what he did. I mean, he ended up having of like high volume receivers. He had the worst drop rate of anyone. And it also looked like it was the traffic stuff where it's like a something going on with you now, like when you're around this because, you know, anybody that would say like he's no one's Jeremiah Smith, right. But the fact that he was even in the conversation because of those big plays, the Georgia game and all that kind of stuff, it's like, you know, you have somebody like that, especially for a young quarterback. So I don't know what to make of that. I just can't imagine that all of a sudden, like the freshman year was a fluke thing and he's just shot, but this drop rate thing is significant. And, you know, I don't know. I guess the offensive line part of it for Alabama, knowing that last year, the reason why they ended up getting destroyed in the playoff and we could see it coming in a way because you just go, all right, well, like Ty Simpson, I wasn't even upset with anything with him. And like this guy is, he has no

27:25chance. And it's kind of funny because it bookend perfectly with the Florida state game, whereas like he's getting his ass handed to him out there. They have no chance whatsoever. Alabama cannot run the football. And so it's Ty Simpson trying to figure all this stuff out with a really nice receiving group. So I guess it's just better. I mean, you're okay with that. I think it will be better. Well, it has to be better. Right. It has to be better. I mean, there were a trotious run in the football. And I do think having a mobile quarterback will make a huge difference. I do. And a lot of me with me and Alabama, like I know, this SEC, the gauntlet is there and it's real and it's the help. I think their draw is pretty easy and that includes Florida state. I mean, that's a revenge game. There'll be a multiple, you know, probably two touchdown favorite in that game. I had them. And then so they have Georgia at home, which again, that could be a loss, but I had them beating that one at Tennessee. They're going to be playing against Faeson brand and a true freshman quarterback. Like I think they should be able to go into Tennessee and get that win. Texas A&M, probably one of their toughest opponents, but it is at home.

28:28I have them losing at LSU as one of their losses. But other than that, that was their only blemish. I had for them. Not foolish because I think there's going to be some carnage in the SEC. But I still think Alabama, I think they're a team that's going to be just fine. I'm going to pick Texas. And it has a lot to do with the second half for Arch, because if you go from November 1st on, best QBR in college football, he's somebody else that you could point out to and go, all right, he ate against some of these other teams, certainly early on too, with the 10 touchdowns against San Jose and Sam Houston, all that kind of stuff. I think the tape backs up that he became a different quarterback. It's another team that you put down on the offensive line part of it, receiver, I'm good, running back, I'm good, defense, I'm good. I think they have a couple guys on that defense that are like my favorite players in all of college football. And even with that schedule, I know it's brutal. It's brutal. There's usually a couple stretches here for some of these SEC teams where you look at like three teams in a month, like,

29:30oh, this has a stretch here. You go, Jesus, like that's a brutal, brutal four weeks where you're thrilled to just be playing like Mizzou and no offense to Missouri. But I like your Oregon point, I kind of feel like it has to come together this season for Texas. And I wish there was more insightful things to say about it, but it's just kind of the way it feels and I don't want to pick Georgia again. So there you go. So I have Texas in the playoffs. I have them going deeper than an SEC team, but I don't have an SEC title game because of that schedule. Also, I do think there was something I'm a believer in arch, but they were a little inconsistent last year. They just feel like there's a majority thing where they're kind of new to this territory of handling the success that they've got. I think Oklahoma is going to be where that's a rivalry game. Now they've had some success in it recently, but I think that's still a really tricky game for them. At LSU, another tricky one at Texas A&M rivalry game, having to go to college station. So I don't

30:33have an SEC title game, but I do, I have a beating Ohio State. And I think, I think they'll be in pretty safely. There's been some rumblings. I don't know if you've seen some of the reports about stuff going on in the locker room. There was a freshman's dad who was on there saying he was going to expose him. Arch, you know, there's been rumblings that he hasn't been great at practice. I'm not even worried about that. I think that comes with the fact that your Texas, you know, rumors start to swirl. They get really noisy. I think they'll be fine. I just think to me, it was more about the schedule being a little bit harder within conference than George and Alabama, but I haven't been the playoffs. For six games where Arch, he was 78 in QBR, College Football. Last six, he was third in FBS. I think two maps were one in Pompant. People wanted to start to give up play calling. I mean, it was such pan. I mean, there were articles. He was going to be a bust. I'm happy for him. I actually feel way better about him because he played poorly and because they struggled, I feel better about his like mental fortitude and be able to handle some adversity. So how many SEC teams do you have in those are my three? That's it. Bama, Bama, Georgia and Texas.

31:42Where are you with Lane, the lane train down there in Baton Rouge? I got to see it. Now that's one for me where the roster, it's hard to find many weaknesses. You know, you spent all this money, you bring in Lane, but in a sport that requires like culture and continuity. And I know Lane did that and he was the portal king at Ole Miss and he was able to bring it there. Very, very curious to see how this thing unfolds. Now I think they could, they could be the national champion. I also think they could be seven and five. Like if they fall short and they have a couple losses early, does the, do the guys start showing up for a check, which I've seen in the NFL when you start to become more professionals? And there's a big question mark for me at Sam Levit. Not only, and it's not just the Liz Frank and coming back from that injury and he misses an entire spring, he, like, he was a 61% passer in the big 12th. Now he's got to play in the SEC in a system that requires requires you to be very accurate. Get rid of the football. He's also athletic and his athleticism is going to play a part in what Lane wants to do and he'll have better talent around him.

32:46But I'm not sold on Sam Levit is just going to go out there and light up the SEC. So I think he could have some bumps and bruises on the way that possibly could cost them a game or two. That's fair. He lit up the big 12 historically. Like if you go through his big 12 numbers and then kind of like some of the other guys, but you take them out of the big 12, there was a drop off in production and that number was rather significant as well. The LSU offense, like going through those numbers, you can ask your co-host Brian Kelly about this. Like the fact that they were, they couldn't run the football in 24. You're like, all right, they'll figure it out and it was even worse. I mean, they were in the hundreds in some of these categories offensively last season and you just go, how could you possibly the receivers are going to be fine? I don't know what the hell's going on with the running backs because they brought in some studs and it hasn't necessarily happened. The offensive line looks like it's going to be better. They load up on transfers. They're going to apparently grab a couple NFL guys or try to pull that off too, which I think is gross, but I have LSU in the playoff over Bama. So there you go. Because I have to say everything you said is totally fair. Anyone else, like what do you do with

33:50A&M? Because A&M, I think the skill guys were good. I think the lines were good. I kind of just make an assumption with Elkone and everything like defensively. They're going to be fine. The Marcel Reed thing, I thought his high has been momentum last year was one of the most misguided campaigns just because it was the undefeated SEC ranked team. Hey, who's the quarterback? Let's do this. And he's a lot of fun, but there's some red zone stuff in there that I don't like. And if you go catchable ball of the 16 quarterbacks that are like the guys in the SEC, he threw the 15th most catchable ball out of the 16 quarterbacks that registered, which is exactly what I saw every Saturday. Go back and watch the South Carolina game and you'll get the full Marcel Reed experience. Because in the first half, he looked like one of the worst quarterbacks in all of college football. So the second half where he looked like he could be the best quarterback, college football. It had to mean for him. It is all about consistency. A&M, I do think they were a little bit of, do you like the team or do you like the schedule and probably like the schedule last season? Yeah. More than you like the team. This year,

34:52it's a different story. It is a much tougher schedule within the SEC conference games that they have to play. So I'm like, I don't think there's going to be a mega drop off, but I had them outside the playoffs. It just, to me, it was about some of the road games they've got in conference. I think they could suffer a little bit that and not to mention Colin Klein, who was like the perfect coordinator for Marcel Reed, similar style of quarterback. He's gone. They stay in house with home and Wiggins. So I get that there shouldn't be too much change over, but I do wonder how much that could impact the offensive side of the ball. I think we have to mention Ole Miss, even with that schedule. Here's my favorite stat. I think I found out the quarterbacks. Chamblest, third and long. He's like the best. Quarterbacks, third and long. What do you do in this sport? I'm talking college because there's just so many schools. Once it's third and seven, it's like, all right, we're screwed. And Trinidad Chamblest has the best numbers of anyone returning on that stat. It feels like an afterthought after last year's run. Maybe it's just because post-lane

35:53and everything and the momentum and all that storyline. People have kind of turned the page on them of being a playoff contender. I would love for them to be better than LSU. Just from the storyline approach, they still did spend the second most in the SEC, which is kind of crazy. They're not going down without a fight, especially in the spending war. The schedule's tougher. Again, a lot of this has to do with the schedule. I think Trinidad Chamblest might be one of the best quarterbacks in the country. I don't know if I think they're eight and four, probably around that territory. I just don't view them as being able to run it back with the amount of change over. And they kind of were that perfect storm last year. You kind of galvanized the team that did stay behind. And I know some players that threw lane under the bus or even trying to go back and play with them now, which is kind of wild. But yeah, I have to see it again with Ole Miss. I think Trinidad Chamblest would be really good. The defense, I think, could be take a step back. So I'm just not a believer that they're going to run it back. Real quick on Oklahoma.

36:56Matier for me is a wild card. He's to his jacked up photos are great. I thought last year he was incredibly inconsistent. How much was it due to his thumb and the injury and that would absolutely impact not only his loss. He was awesome. He was awesome at times. He was really good. I think if it works for Oklahoma, he kind of has a T-bow like season where he's running for close to eight or 900 yards. And they're using him to bulldoze guys. And he's the emotional leader that the team ate loves. They've got a great defense. Obviously, that's going to be a big part of any Brent Vennible's team. And they feel really good about that aspect. There are another one that has question marks. Can they run the football? I think they'll be better running the football. But I don't know. I just I want to see Matier keep it together. Stay healthy and be more consistent over 12 games. I also think that again, I had Michigan in the playoffs in my bracket. So you kind of know where I felt with that game. I think that's a that game will probably determine it too. Like or we believe in a local home or not. They absolutely could win that game. But I did have Michigan

37:57win in that one. All right. The ACC you have to have. I mean, I kind of hate doing this a Notre Dame now. But every single preview is doing the same thing now too. We're just putting Notre Dame in the ACC because really I didn't know that let's go. Let's get them in there. Then I get some more ammo. Come on. How many of how many ACC teams are we getting in? Let's start first with Notre Dame, though. You have them in. I assume right? I do. I with Texas Tech Notre Dame and Miami. They're like the three teams that look really good and like in their schedule. It's like find the losses. You have you have to like talk yourself into like a four interception performance from your quarterback to feel like they don't have a chance. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen. But I do have I do have Notre Dame and I have them slipping up once. I have an 11 and one. I think 10 and two. Who would listen to BYU or is it me? I have lose to Miami. Miami. I have is the only undefeated in the college. Well, I'll play up as Miami. I have Miami going to South Bend, which is even a stretch. I think BYU is a tricky out for Notre Dame. But I think they can kind of bully him. I do wonder. He did lose two

38:58guys to the first round in the backfield. That is a pretty good asset. But Marcus Freeman may be one of my favorite coaches. They have great culture schedules there. I don't see I mean, I look for ways to try to say how can they not get it done? It's just hard to find it. So I have men as a one lost team and then I have Miami is the only team from the ACCN. Car was unbelievable against the blitz last year. He was blitzed on 37% of his dropbacks, which is the most of any quarterback. And I think maybe the P4 and he was 14 to on touchdown interception splits on that now. You could also argue after the first two weeks, like bad teams that have no chance are going to blitz you and that it's much easier dealing with those blitz. But I've seen some car numbers. You split it up. You're like, well, hey, first four weeks, it's this. It's like, well, the first two weeks, the guys in play before he's at Miami and he's against Texas A&M. And honestly, the come back to lose to Miami week one. I remember you even talking about it specifically. It's like, hey, there's some stuff in there. And that second half from this kid. So I think he's that good. I know he's not the dual threat thing that we all want. Maybe that's part of his NFL breakdown and all

40:03that kind of stuff. But as far as college football is concerned, I just don't see how this team is not in the playoffs. And I think the same is to be said about Miami. I'm right there with you. Like I like men sub better than Beck. You go through their transfer portal stuff. You're like, if they're not getting it wrong, they're not losing any momentum despite losing the national championship game. I don't know where that loss is. I don't, I mean, maybe it's at Notre Dame. That's fine. And then it's not massively, you know, like they play Clemson, right? At Clemson. That's one of their total days. Only ranked team. They play. Yeah. Right. And and this speaks to like the bigger as the ACC thing, like Clemson, obviously, one of the most disappointing seasons, they had a really long time preseason number four. They finished up seven and six. Even dabbo grabbed like 10 guys out of the transfer portal, which I assume he didn't want to do. New offensive coordinator. You still have seven new offensive starters with this group. They lost three guys on defense. The top 15, the NFL draft picks Chad Morris comes in,

41:05but even Chad Morris, people are kind of like, hey, when's the last time this guy's like dialed it up? Was it 10 years ago when you felt really excited about it? Vazina four star quarterback. There's not a lot on him. Obviously lit it up against SMU. But the drop off from Miami to then, what is next? Like you have to start like maybe Louisville because they're sort of consistent and put it together. Jennings is back at SMU. So there's some other teams that are potentially here, but it just feels like there's such a gap between Miami and whoever would challenge him in this conference. I think there is. I think if you looked at the spending receipts, Miami wouldn't be close to many other teams in the ACC either. I think there's a very real reason for that. I think it's clearly it's SMU Louisville. And I do think I would not have said this a week ago and I'm kind of mad at myself for not doing it. Virginia looked really good against NC State. I know it's one game. You don't want to over. They look awesome. I mean, that's supposed to be an NFL quarterback for NC State and they shut them down. And then if you start looking at their schedule, you kind of go through it. There's not that many tests. They could be favored most of them. But I really think in

42:08the similarity between the big 12 and the ACC is I think the only way there are two bid leagues is if you see an upset in the title game, which if you get a cold weather game, I know they moved it to daytime. So maybe it's not as bad in Charlotte, but or if you get a day where you, you know, fumble a couple times to get some fluke touchdowns, you could get beat at college football. But I really think that's the only recipe for the ACC to get to win is if you see an upset in the ACC title game, somebody beats Miami. And same thing with the big 12 with Texas Tech. So you want to talk about gaps here? Big 12. And you want to talk about schedules like we talked our way into a couple Miami challenges. Try to do with Texas Tech. I can't. They do it's impossible. If you look at the projects for Texas Tech, so they're clearly far and away. And they should be, you know, talent wise. And you know, I know they brought in Castellanos. But when Hammond played last year against Utah, he was terrific. So this might just be September insurance for Hammond, because there's a lot of like hand ringing about what does this mean for Hammond. I think they're

43:11adding depth just in case the sky were to be heard again, because then there's a bunch of other pieces there. Now, looking at the schedule, I couldn't believe how bad it was when I was looking at it again. So no BYU, no Utah, no case state Houston's the only team that they would play that's like in that tier behind them. They play seven of the 10 worst projected big 12 teams. Then I can play anybody out of conference on top of everybody else. If they don't win the big 12 and make the playoff, this is actually one of the most disappointing scenarios of any program in college football. Totally great. The only thing I would disagree with you. And you didn't really make a statement on it. I think Castellanos is not an insurance policy. I think he's an offensive weapon. Because remember, he went to the NFL draft to try to be a receiver. He is not a, I don't think he has a future at the next level as a quarterback. Clearly, they can use him there because he's, you know, he's obviously pretty good. I think it's Wilhamon's team, but I think you could draw up some plays for Thomas Castellanos, put him in the backfield, Wildcat, put him at receiver in the slot. I think he's just another out of offensive weapon for Texas Tech. Yeah, that's totally fair.

44:16Yeah, I mean, you're right. I did not look at it that way. I looked at it for the quarterback reasons, which makes sense as well. Because then you get the best of both worlds. You have, because he's, I don't think he would know the system the first month of the season. So like, by the time you get to October, he feels comfortable there. So you do have that insurance, but I think they'll wrinkle him in as a playmaker. Just fight across the board. Joe McGuire, now I don't know if this is blowing smoke up. He's blowing smoke or what? He did say he thinks this year's defense is better than last year's defense. The other thing too, man, I am going to lay every point spread that is out there because Joe McGuire was talking about how upset they were about the way they were treated with the Brendan Swarsby thing was clearly was mishandled, but they kind of, because I was like, how do you get your team not to overlook all these opponents? Yes. I think they're going to look to unleash a little bit on most of those teams in the big 12. Remember, everybody was against them. They screwed them. We're going to lie. I was everywhere against them. I mean, it wasn't like they were completely innocent in all this, but they're looking to kind of

45:18unleash. So I think it's going to be one of those seasons where we don't know what Texas tech is until we get to the playoff, which is why they're actually one of the teams. I have, I have BYU beating them in a big 12 championship. I know they've come up short in the big 12 title last couple years. I think BYU is kind of physically built for that. They'll have been tested way more than Texas tech in the season. I think Bearbock Mire makes a big step forward as a passer to make them a little bit more balanced, bring him back LJ Martin and Clonney St. Tockey always has sort of a defense that's physical. And they got pushed around a little bit, but I think they could. I feel more convinced you could see somebody clip Texas tech in the big 12 title than even Miami in the ACC. Yeah, Bearbock Mire will be better. O-line is really good, bring him back four starters from there, and 10 of the 16 defensive players who have two and more snaps are all coming back. I know they lost their defensive coordinator here, but I like BYU when I have them in. So it sounds like we actually agree on this. So you have them in the same way I do as an upset in the big 12 title?

46:20No, I just said you have. So do you have Texas tech out? No, I have BYU in that large. Okay, as in that large. I got you. Yeah, got you. Nice. Anything with Utah here? I think like are we sleeping on them? Maybe. Damn, here's a what that tough phone for me. You want to talk about like some Heisman momentum? Yeah, it's be a fun thing to track week to week. Remember back in week four when everyone was saying this and then it kind of got a little tough to watch at times, but I'll give like another one of my third and long. The other is like, what do you do? Red zone. They were number one in red zone touchdown percentage. Yeah. Like that's that's a real thing there. And obviously this is a new world for them in two plus decades of having winning him. They're 21 years, but I think they're at least worth mentioning maybe more so than K state for me at least. Definitely. And they also, I think the BYU, the Holy Wars in Salt Lake. So I think it's at Rice Eccles, which I think it's one of the ones I had a struggle with that pick. They did lose two first rounders to the NFL draft

47:23on the offensive line. And they did lose. Remember, I talked Jason Beck. I really like him as an offensive play collar gone to Michigan with Kyle Wittingham. I'm a little bit concerned about the ampere, but he's he's pretty special with what he can do. He was really solid. I just I think there's going to be a little bit of a culture shift. How do you adapt to that? And that's why I'm probably just not as bullish on Utah. All right. So if we put it all together then, because I know I've like two quick things before I let you go here. So the SEC, we agree on Georgia, Texas. I have LSU. You have BAMA. Mm-hmm. Correct? Yep. Big 10, you have Indiana. You have a USC over Indiana. Yes. And I have Michigan in there, but I could easily be talked out of that. Well, just put them down underneath here. Big 12, you obviously have BYU if you haven't went into the title game. Yep. And I had Texas second and I don't I think that should be a debate,

48:29but I don't see how you punish a team, you know, for the extra game. Okay. So that leaves the group of six, which everyone's pick has been Boise State. Do you have something different? I put UTSA watch out for Owen McCown. I was talking about outside the box. Their win total I think is eight and a half. Like they surprise him. Big fan of Jeff trailer and what he could do. So, but I ignored the code of states. The team would better watch out for as well. They're going to be favored in every game. They already had a big one over Jacksonville State. UNLV looks a little more beatable. And I think college, I think college, the selection committee they are human. I think they would love a story. You know, going from FCS to FBS. So who do you have is your next like we have one spot here? For next one out or next one that's in next one that's in. If you're doing three from the SEC, three from the big 10, but is Michigan your 12th? Yeah, I had Michigan in. Wait, because you had USC in, right? No, no, I had Indiana. I just went chalk in the big 10. Oh, we got to keep

49:34Indiana. And then let's go USC. I'd rather have USC than Michigan. Because I'm more of a believer in them. So you have Indiana in them? Well, yeah, because I want you to, I want to make sure we're doing cloud in mind. All right. So how about this scenario? If Penn State's 11 and 1 in Texas is 9 and 3 in the fourth SEC team, will you argue for Texas? No, but if Penn State is 10 and 2, and they only beat one of those three teams they play, then I think it's very much a real possibility. I do think a 9 and 3. So I actually had Texas as a 9 and 3, getting in the first time this year in the college ball playoff. Okay. I think a 9 and 3 team gets in. There's been way too much noise, but I do think it has to be one of the SEC teams that also plays one of the tougher non-conference games like Oklahoma, place Michigan, Bama, place Florida State. They got in last year, even though they lost that game. Texas, Ohio State, I do think they have to have one of those

50:36non-conference wins to help them get in. I don't know. I mean, comparing it to Penn State's schedule, then saying like, hey, you had to beat Ohio State for me to argue you in. I'm just trying to, look, I'm just trying to see how do seven. I think 11 and one, no matter what, I mean, in the big 10, I wouldn't say that for the ACC or big 12, but I think 11 and one, you're safe versus any number. 10 and 2, I think it's where the 10. And that's why I think I'd be okay with it. Like, because I think 10 and 2 versus 9 and 3 is realistic to say, you know what, that 9 and 3 should be over the 10 and 2. And it does matter like even Texas last year, if they, if they just didn't lose to Florida, who was an average team last year, they're in. Like, you mentioned with Ohio State, like, if Ohio State loses to Nebraska, and that's one of their three losses, then I don't think they should be in either. But if it's, if they're three losses to their really good teams, and they still beat a Texas or a Michigan, they still had really good wins, but their three losses were really good,

51:36I'd be okay with that too. I'm doing exactly what I said I wasn't going to do to keep you this late, but I have to ask you one thing, Kira, do you believe the SEC has been neutralized because of the transfer portal? I think they've been, I think the conference is better from top to bottom, but I think it has hurt their teams at the top. It has hurt their title contenders because they lack the depth that they used to. They, they lack the ability to hoard the talent that they used to. So I think the conference is better and healthier from top to bottom, but they just have lacked the national title contender. It's interesting because I was going through the portal rankings, 13 of the top 30 going into 26 or SEC teams. The top three are SEC teams, five of the top 10 are SEC teams. The ACC has three of the top 30 portal teams. The big 10 has seven of the top 30. If you go through the top portal transfers in the big 12 in the ACC, it's a ton of non-power

52:40for a guys. So I think what's happened here is that early days, everybody was like, this is amazing, we can just go get players and boosters and now we can pay, we can do all this kind of stuff. There's turning in, first of all, for 26, and who knows what the portal rankings will mean, there's a massive gap between Mississippi State has a higher transfer portal grade than 17. In the big 10, Mississippi State has the worst grade in the SEC. So could we have a return to dominance for the conference? I don't know. I don't know who that top team is right now, but it's very clear that like in the big 12 in the ACC, they're shopping at a completely different store now, a couple years into this, a few years into it, I should say. That's why we're only talking about one or maybe two from each one of those conferences. Thank you, Danny. That's the reality. I appreciate it. You got it, man. Always fun. I jumped you there because I knew you have to leave. So sorry. See you. Something big is coming on September 2nd. Draft Kings game day arrives with massive deals,

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54:4590, 90th or worse. So if you went through all the 130 plus teams in college football, the three teams that Texas Tech plays outside of the big 12 project to be 90th or worse. So minus 200. Also, USC over eight and a half wins market between, I don't know, one minus one 36 for this one. We know it's a brutal schedule. So if you're running through it, clearly you're looking at Oregon, Washington, Penn State in consecutive weeks with no time off, then they've got Wisconsin, who should be much better offence because they couldn't be much worse. And then you finish with Ohio State and a week off Indiana, then Maryland, who actually leads the country, I believe, in continuity ranking from last year. So go you dirty turps. So over eight and a half on decays play there for you as well. If we can just go ahead and do that for you. But I love that Texas Tech minus 200 get ready to celebrate new draft Kings customer side of the code Ryan, spend five bucks to get 200 in rewards within 21 days includes all markets. That's code Ryan,

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56:45And the content was endless this weekend. It was unbelievable. So if you don't know the story, the guy basically kind of created all of these pages where the story was that he was from he was a business man from Switzerland and then he'd linked up with these other like top NFL wide receivers and they were working out with him and they were like, man, you're awesome. And then he had tryouts and then he signed with the Niners, but then he was hurt because it's pinky was busted up which he showed a video of which didn't make any sense. And then he somehow like ended up on the Rams. He'd said he'd gone to college for a year but was hurt. So there was no tape and so apparently a bunch of women fell for this. I don't really blame the women. I think there's like a bigger conversation that maybe I can get to and like why that happens. I think a lot of times you just want to believe. Yeah. Yeah. There's no promises of riches. They just have the juice. He would do a lot of videos of like they don't have their own cell phone. They just they got it.

57:48He would do he would do a lot of videos that I see like there was some guy that posted some video. He was presenting himself. I guess he is or said he was a financial planner. This is a different person altogether. And his whole spiel was don't play Grand Theft Auto 6, live it. And he was like you're wasting your time playing video games. What you need to do is get mansions get cars and then he's like I have guns. I have guns too. He's like so why live out someone else's reality. Why be a marker for some other like be your own entity. Don't play the video game. Pretend role playing. Do it for real. So kids out there get yourself some mansions. This week. This sounds like the guy that manipulate time was like you know 6am to whatever. It's my first day. Yeah. You're like all right. Yeah. You got it. No, I'm doing it wrong. The levels of dislike that I reach when I see these kinds of videos I just go like who the fuck pays the 10 but the thing is some people do like the guy that sells cars and yells at you if you're fat

58:51like everybody walks out to the seminar at like a residence in. And he takes off a shirt and the guys in great shape. And then he brings up somebody who wants to learn how to be better at sales. And he says take your shirt off. And he's like you're fat. And he's like yeah I'm trying. He's like well you're not trying hard enough. And it's like hey that people sign up for the shit man. They they do it. So you like John Taffer. Is it that much different? Hey. Well Taffer. Not a negative way. I like it. All right. Yeah. I think there's a Taffer element of like hey it's a TV show. And this is this is entertainment. And I think somebody else you know. I know what you're saying. And I don't always love all the Taffer appeal. Where it's like what is what is natural the main's history trains. Yeah. Absolutely. But he has like that great built in. There's the run of train special. Yeah. We're going to do that's the rules. Yeah. Look like logs being transported. But that speaks to main's community. Yeah. That

59:54should drives me crazy. He has the nice built in thing though. It's like there's always going to be a maniac in the kitchen because that's like I think you have a pretty high like you know the cooks not necessarily chef but cooks kind of be a little testing. He's like great. I'll just go in red face screaming at this guy. We're going to get five good minutes out of this. He can always he can always fall back on yell at the guy who's super stressed in the kitchen. So that's just like a built in TV gold. Yeah. I know you love Taffer Kyle. So I didn't really do. We should just quit while we're ahead. So our guy to John love he had a video of him running routes at the beach. He had some other videos on the helmet to work out. He always had the helmet. Yeah. It's just helmet. Yeah. He's like a safety jacket any ball. No, like that guy's fake. Nope. Yeah. Then there's like other videos where he's in the car and he makes sure that the helmet's kind of in it. There's another video of him in a bedroom in the helmet is around. It's fucking crazy that he's constantly dressed up like this and like to the women out there are audience. Maybe not. It's not a 50 50 split

1:00:58but it's it's always like one of those all-time tells is that anybody that's a professional athlete would not be wearing his gear out. He doesn't do that. I remember one time one of my buddies who looked like Mike Timlin and was wearing a red socks hat and I had bartended to this place. The girls are like are you out with Mike Timlin and then one of the other girls like knew it. She was a seasoned vet. She's like he wouldn't be wearing his hat out. And like I was like oh no. So three fingers from yeah right. You right now you throw a baseball hat on and maybe like a little sort of wig in the back situation like Rod back is right there for you to impersonate not a compliment. Just saying. I love Rod back. Cut off Denavess. It could be a whole different year. RIP. He died then. Yeah wow. You looked at a quick sorouty. I kind of dial up you got over there. So these videos like I don't know like some people are just so entertained by it's not Matt. I hate it. I just hate fraudsters. I hate con artists. I really hate the men that do this

1:02:04because they're just to me. They're just such pieces of shit. I know a lot of people could be like oh the women deserve it all that kind of stuff but like you know I'm not really here to like take a side or anything because I think there's really only one side but his videos when he's sitting there and he's like I've got a $15 million house in Malibu. I'm just about to buy this other mansion. I also have a place in billionaires row. I have this. I have that. And then he's talking about his Richard Mill watch. He's like this is 700,000 and then he's like I'm really good with money. It's like you're really good with money and you spent. Look the Richard Mill watches are sick. They're awesome. 700 grand on one of those you have to have so much money for that to be any kind of transaction that's probably good. All while you are a practice squad guy that there's no actual proof of other than the AI video that he posted that showed a Google search of him saying that it was he was a member of the San Francisco 49ers which is hilarious because when he shows that and he actually puts it in the video where he's trying to make sure everybody thinks that he's on the team. He's like that's Google. That's not me. That's Google. Who has to explain like twice that it's

1:03:11Google other than anybody that would be making up the entire thing. So I don't know that I'm like I was asking somebody else would if you could have them on the podcast would you have them on and they were like yeah they'd be hilarious. That's a good guess. I because of course you would know as a meat eater. Steve Steve was like yeah we have him on. I mean are you guys not do you get mad about it or are you too entertained to get mad do you take the side of like hey if you fall for it that's your fault. I had a close something close to this happened to us with Mr. David Bloom in the Superbowl heist and everything like that where I was like I was going to show up at the bar if he was going to bring us to the Superbowl but I definitely wasn't going to be cancelling trips for this you know what I mean. So I don't know I kind of smelled something crazy but you know the second he asked me for money there I was going to be like no and so he never did so that would never ask you for

1:04:14any money never ask me for any money. He probably got a few like rounds from different guys at the bar but like that was about it that's what was so confusing about this but I mean to the guy in that group that like cancelled his gig at the Superbowl because he thought he was going I gotta say I think you might be a little bit stupid for that that's all so I'm kind of in the same boat guy maybe I just have no heart and you can just I've been put in that situation before but there was like one tweet from this girl and I think this is real but it was like it she's allegedly one of the people that he scammed and it was like she tweeted out went from dating these little Bay Area boys out to on a date with an NFL player. It's like I've got to be sure signed to never settle. It's gotta be fake and it's like which player is it she goes to one of the best wide receivers in the NFL. I tell you to know. I'm just like I actually don't care. I thought it's cool. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't care. I don't care. Like at some point you are being a willing you're being willingly ignorant.

1:05:14I think. Yeah I will say like growing up when I was younger like I did have a couple of you know pretty boy friends that were like I can get anything I want if I just talk to the right people and it was always girls it's like yeah I gotta go pick her up from work later and then he doesn't and you know I was hanging out with him before and I'm like adjacent to this and I feel bad he's my friend I got I accept his good qualities and bad but when I see what he does to the people that he's basically it's it's scamming basically just getting favors from from people that you're in sort of a romantic thing with I feel bad it makes me feel a bit yucky but like that's that's where I've been more exposed to is like the guy who's just like she gave me 50 bucks I ran her car on empty I forgot to pick her up from work I'm using her old cell phone like that and that that feels gross to me but to me that's just a shitty boyfriend like but he's not a boyfriend though he's definitely not maybe she maybe he's got the maybe he's got the juice to make her think that but like that's not the case so that that was really more what I've had experience with my my levels of like fraud acceptance are are con our acceptance like if you're scamming like old people

1:06:18on the internet like that's to me is like some of the lowest of below like those they're they're like incredibly vulnerable they don't know like they just don't know right I just kind of feel like a simple Google search would have self this problem like a simple one and again I think there's willing fully willing full ignorance of these people that want to say they want to do this thing they want to feel cool and they don't look at do it at all in this guy just starts I don't know maybe again maybe I'm being too cold-hearted but this is the kind of like it's not a victim with crime but it's like hey you kind of you kind of made your own bed in this situation it feels like people are having a hard time if he's saying like hey I've got this house over at this house and and he was his position was that like I have made to cover like how could you have these houses if you're on the practice squad which I think there's probably a few people that he would have talked to that would have gone because there were some other women that were like oh he tried to come at me like and they would send all the text out and that kind of stuff and there was this one woman who was like I have brothers and cousins that play ball like this doesn't make any sense how was there not one clip of you ever in college he was like oh because I only had one year at college but then I was hurt I'm the goodwill acting a football so there's just a record of

1:07:22yeah just super mysterious the 90s this is easy you want to go out and selfie and say you're hoping to get the call from the Pawsauks it works okay but this is this the story obviously anyone that knew anything about sports and some of these women were sharing these these like I always try to come at me he was trying to get with me and then they were just like there has to be a clip there has to be some play like it doesn't just work out this way and that's for another video like that he's blasting out to the masses going you know the whole way of getting involved with the NFL as if it was like some business like some startup like there's not you don't just have to get drafted and he's like I'm working out with Antonio Brown I'm working out with Tyree Kill right flag I'm working out with it was a Josh Browns the other one and then he was like these are Hall of Famers these are Hall of Famers and they were just like you're nice he's like and that's why I was able to get tryouts he's like but I was only going to do it if they were the teams that had a good chance to win a Super Bowl because it's like I'm not

1:08:24that's the other thing is he's like basically saying I don't really want to do this I don't want to play football in college I don't want to play football but I'm so nasty in my workouts and then he was also 35 I think while he was saying it was 24 I'd say his hips moved a little bit more like he was a guy was 35 but for the guys that are like hey look at his his toe drills you should have known nobody would fucking know very few people would ever actually know the route on the beach is absurd as it looks most people wouldn't actually fucking know so if you have your whole story down which he is cover was that he'd made all of his money in business and that's how we met all of these guys you could see how somebody that doesn't know anything about sports could probably fall for this on top of hoping that it's true and convincing yourself to fall for it because it's like oh my god this guy's awesome especially when he's talking about shopping sprees and travel one woman he was talking to he was like I want to come back and start having babies with you or you good like it was very informal so very it does like I feel like there needs to be a little bit more planning to have some kids here but you know for bat for lack of a better term do we know did he

1:09:27have like a real job to like what did he do something he's 35 like what was he doing for you know 15 years of adulthood like I don't know there was an office guy or something and each did this thing on the side or working on it like an ex-athlete and it was like I can kind of figure this out yeah I think there was one stripper that he was talking to that he was mad that he was like you didn't spend more time with me he's like I'm on my way right now to go buy a Lamborghini he's like I know the general manager there his name is done yeah if you need to look that up Google out of deal but on the money front like why are you giving this guy money if he's standing in front of these cars and he's supposedly in these mansions that he's living in and all the stuff um I think this is back to wow is it I love you man which movie is it where Steve would be our guy for that I think jobin yeah as it Jason Seagal needs he needs some money to front something in a trade like the whole premise is like is he actually going to scam Paul right he did

1:10:30it was the billboards thing right yeah it was real he was telling the truth he has a money to get that yeah yeah uh you were talking about yesterday because you you're in this world more than I am because my question would be like if you have all this money why are you asking for money and you were kind of like well you know if you do have money it doesn't mean you're always liquid and you have that yeah yeah yeah I'm like okay that does actually I guess makes sense but if you're just like yeah but you ask other people with money for money you know yeah yeah we have the ask like do we have the I know the hit rate probably wasn't awesome because there's people came forward like how many women account for the 1.3 million did he get did he hit like one jackpot and a couple other supplementals or was he like cruising like is this was this like a five no I love like 40 people 1.3 is what's reported who knows yeah what it because it would be super impressive if he pieced together 1.3 from like $10,000 that's like get that guy somewhere where he's doing it more sales right I mean yeah no days off but people and by the way on the liquid thing

1:11:34there's nothing dumber than when people talk about like this guy's net worth and then there's like well why did he need to do this you're like do you people realize that these guys like Elon must doesn't have a fucking checking account with that net worth number a lot of this stuff is all on paper and so there are people that are really really rich that have moments where they need cash to do other things and it doesn't mean that they're even remotely poor I don't know if that's what this guy was doing I think the probably the the easier hack for him or scam for him would be I have a chance like hey I did this deal with this last guy I put in 500,000 if you want to put in like 10k or whatever this is going to go 10x in 12 months and a lot of stuff and once you're look I'll admit too when I was broke I remember watching these documentaries or whatever reading about these stories that these guys losing all their money and I'm like oh my god like how does that happen once you start to learn how like these investments work and you get pitched and then

1:12:40hey this fund and this new thing and this is all going to happen and what you have to do is you have to find somebody that you trust who has like a really good track record but you can kind of see how it would happen if you're not on top of it at all if you meet somebody who presents themselves as somebody I mean think about like all the athletes but the thing is like the athletes get a bad rap with it because they're famous and then they get kind of like hit with this tag of like they're all collectively stupid and let this thing happen to them there are plenty of really smart guys that are rich that have great track records that then link up with like the wrong person for the wrong thing and then they get destroyed on some of these deals and once you learn kind of how it works I will admit their times I'm like oh man like I guess I could see how how this could happen and this feels like in a far more informal way where there's not as much checks and balances you don't have your own financial advisor doing all this stuff I imagine it probably wasn't really that hard for him to get the hopes up of all of these people if the woman already thinks he's on the fucking 49ers and she's psyched that she's dating an NFL player she's probably even more susceptible would be like oh if I can only give you like 10 grand that you're gonna five times it in this amount of time

1:13:43because that's the kind of deal that you did and you've shown me all these props that you have that show this life that you're actually not really living like I think it is actually kind of simple if you're determined enough to do this and that's where it actually does make me mad because I just think that if you're going to be this kind of person to do this to other people because you're such a fucking phony you're such a fraud you just I don't there's an entertainment level but I'm never going to come back around where I I don't know like sure they made mistakes and everything but I'm not I don't really want to victim blame in this one like I think I only call an iron like this guy's awesome no I didn't think you're gonna buy Jersey but I somebody else is selling though I I think the Niners was kind of a smart choice which is just how many different guys you've seen on the field in the last couple of years like that was probably probably a good choice it's good to be kicked it's like if you had to pick one of the 32 that's probably the front-runner packers to be a little tougher smaller community yeah yeah definitely yeah and we'll see what happens here I can't

1:14:45imagine being on the Niners I imagine being on the team and then seeing this stuff this weekend I can't that must have been so I was like Niners nighter social team finally got a fun one yeah yeah tough tough stretch yeah raising canes is sponsoring PJ tour pro golf or Sam Burns LSU alum Louisiana native and good friend of raising canes owner and founder Todd Graves you may have seen the canes logo on his collar during tournaments this season ahead of the BMW championship Sam and raising canes hosted kids from first T and boys and girls clubs of St. Louis from meet greet in golf lessons by Sam himself at a driving range in St. Louis and of course canes chicken fingers and canesauce I can't stop thinking about all those chicken figures we had over at the house the other day I wish I had had more friends from cosmic bowling and you could say hey after we do the shoot we're gonna sit here and we're all gonna eat all these chicken figures but I'm telling you what I gave him away to a school and then I kept a few for myself I think it's totally fine because my

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1:17:54and you're saved by yourself and everybody else had to stay like in the police and like these you know whatever that either though so i think that'd be funny and i think you know you could create some robberies who knows people can be upset with you but yeah there's just no way you're doing all that stuff i it does look fun i'll be honest with you like the big blob you know launching people off of that couch and it's fun it looks great soft softball could take it or leave it but there's a mack tivities that i yeah i think it would be great um i think you'd be more interested i i'm more interested in why did you get the ass for the internet and rotational the golf thing no i i didn't get the ask for that i would have done that but as i say i think you would be in on that if you got the ass so if i was invited to that i would do it i don't know that i'm like i don't know isn't it like people with millions of followers and stuff that you have to like that's a pretty big social media thing so i don't i don't know if i'm that guy i think of the little loosen you got enough followers i would say you're okay i don't know but they just take my place cut out you were talking yeah we couldn't hear you sounded like it was gonna be good though you there now still don't have you

1:18:55you know can't can't hear Kyle uh oh sorry it's been a while since i did that it was just a big fucking new button sorry guys uh i was i was saying i don't think we get attached to something like that unless Ryan does it and i think Ryan's bar is too high for us to end up doing stuff like that so you know maybe a few more clips on the social side to get to get our presence up but i think without without Ryan's attachment i think we just we're probably gonna stay home for stuff like that oh that's definitely true yeah yeah i'm just saying like i don't i don't want anyone if arstall to be upset with me about that but it was it was kind of like hey will you do some of the other stuff and i was like yeah i'll do some of the other stuff but it was like maybe the golf maybe well i went to i think i'm gonna go to the headquarters twice a year to do stuff i did like seven things and i was there when Chicago for the time on you were busy we wait and biz are at campar store right i don't think so no so like yeah i don't pass to certain age there's certain sleeping arrangements that i'm just not doing anymore carry on i think everybody though

1:19:56yeah jerry was there so these around a lot yeah yeah so credit to jerry they looked exhausted i'm sure they are just exhausted would you get along with anyone in like a sleeping share room situation like who would you put like like kb neck you like you can make those guys are funny i'm trying to think of who like it's actually funny i don't know if i want to sleep i don't know i don't know i'm just trying to think of like the use that you would be like actually not be super bummed to be a roommate with you and titus are probably like a loner so enough or it probably fine i think just quietly reading in the bunk he might be more loner than i yeah thank you right so yeah that's the answer Kyle if you want to do it i was busy this weekend i got ordained this weekend so i had some shit i couldn't miss oh well but you could have scheduled around it if you were the camp yeah you guys do it every want you don't have to check

1:20:58with me yeah don't care i think we're kind of like a package deal and a lot of things you think so okay yeah um little feedback girl who asked got to move you guys missed the most obvious reason that she asked him she wants a soft way to find out how much money he has and if he'll say they'll just pay for movers all right your change the most off your jaded most obvious yeah okay this guy wouldn't have been taken by the 49ers guy that's for sure i'm sorry i just hate those emails like you guys talked about it for 12 minutes hit on every here's the one thing you did the conspiracy we do miss that's fine we definitely missed stuff but not that yeah all right um alone in a new city acting like i'm 50 22 years old 64 170 yes i know i could fill out the frame no gym stats of no which should be obvious given the dimensions but relatively good shape um had to it just work out last friday hurt so bad hurt the worst of any chess work out i've ever done

1:22:03and um i guess i could share the routine at some point but i told the trainer at the end i was like hey there's there's no more reps left i'm like it's done if there's no reps it's all over and i was like dying as i was done i was like it was today even good and he was like all all all work is good work so you know if you're in the gym and it's not going your way all work is good work shout out to paul i love that all right player comp tomorrow to rosin age 60 playing with his grandchildren crafty score who is over indexed on their mid-range game to compensate for lack of ability to dribble past anyone the height usually attracts comp such as dork yana's paul mill sap it's often unwarranted i've been in a law i've been a long time fan of the show i never thought that i actually someday would be one writing in but here we are as the subject line notes i'm in a new city on the east coast it's been struggling to find the motivation to be sociable um to be a sociable new grad i know this exact topic has been covered before but i was wondering what your advice would be for someone who's struggling to find the motivation to hit the bars and enjoy themselves part of the problem is that because i'm so early in my career i'd rather spend most nights

1:23:03working you're getting ahead of the week so i put myself in the best position possible even if that means sacrificing the social aspect of my life what is odd is that i am fairly sociable person i'm a fairly sociable person it would not be considered an introvert but for whatever reason i have all of a sudden found going out and making friends to be a waste of time despite my better judgment any advice on how to get out of this old person mentality would be great well um i i think there are cycles or whatever like where you can say hey this is this is all i'm going to do you want to prioritize work um maybe at a very very young age post-college for you at 22 to just go hey i don't want to do this i don't want to stand in crowded bars and i want to go through all this stuff and have to go through like the intro and the first inning of like meeting a girl which is like the toughest inning and all that kind of stuff um i totally get it but if you go through this cycle for too long and then you look around you're 27 and nobody wants to fucking hang out with you and you have not one guy to call in the town that you live in this will be the origin story of why that happened so i don't have any like it's up to you what you want to

1:24:06prioritize but we get all of these emails all the time from like i'm in a new town and i can't meet anybody it sounds like other people are far more motivated you're just checking out you already have the answer to the test you already know why this is happening to you and i would make it simple and i have more thoughts but before you guys jump in it would just be just be careful how long you get out of this road because if you actually do want friends and you want all these different things and by the way it doesn't just have to be bars okay but yes right don't go so long down this i'm focused on prioritizing all the career stuff if the friendship stuff is important you for some people it's just not important some people are just like whatever i don't care i can have casual friends in the workplace i don't think people should really go through life that way but be careful once you start to taste the nectar the nectar of uh i don't know i said it that way of um isolation beware is all i can tell you what's also what's more important to you is it meeting girls or meeting dudes we're assuming you're a straight man here right like i don't know if meeting dudes at bars at nighttime i don't think that works usually they're more pushy shovey

1:25:08at nighttime they're not really hey what's your name pal you know i mean if you're if that's where you're going to meet women but i mean it's probably more important to have friends that you will continue with a long time for so i don't know if it's some sort of intermeral things if you want to get to run then you know when i get once it gets colder you know at the local uh middle school gyms or wherever they do that stuff on saturdays um uh a run club came into the bar the other day those people looked a little bit nuts to me but they seemed like they were having a nice time uh they all seem to be happy to wait every time i see all of them but but maybe that was just this one um but yeah i think maybe you should prioritize some friends that you could lean on before like just being like i haven't had a date in a while because that that stuff will come and go especially it takes takes longer to find the right one that you move through life with but definitely i try to get some it's a boys to hang out with and that could that could be seeds planted at work or again there's there's all sorts of activities in in your town when you're at the grocery store take a look at that bulletin board that you always walk past who knows well really for acting off of that maybe try

1:26:08out racket ball i don't know if you just posted like instead of room for rent or bike for sale just friends question mark and then your phone number you just pull those i bet you're gonna do well i think that's how you get put on a little bit too well uh yeah uh this this this reminds me of our goat tom already had a great quote about this he said being alone for a long period of time is dangerous i guess it's a dictating once you see how peaceful it is you don't want to deal with people anymore and that is true i've noticed that like working from home you know like back in the day we you know we go into a studio and we talk and you'd meet new people and it was collaborative and i i do miss parts of that in my life i mean like right now it's easier because i'm just i'm cool i you know take shower going upstairs to the laptop on with chap a little bit whatever and i have to look for excuses to like and having kids does kind of help because i gotta go pick them up daycare we gotta go grocery shopping yada yada but there's like it's really easy to just like not go anywhere all day especially when you don't have anything to do or you don't have any friends that are pressing you to go out and that like so i i would don't fall into that trap because it really kind of is a trap and as Ryan said you're gonna wake up

1:27:0810 years from now being like okay maybe my life was easier because i didn't have to deal with some bullshit but i also don't know anybody now i have no true friends just sitting on his bench with coal bread yeah i'm in the hospital you know like yeah i let him go now this guy speeding burns already by himself if you work up if you look up 10 year early i let him go um start naming him but i would echo the thing too like it's like it sounds like he's a jenzy guy is fresh out of school right he said so like those people aren't drinking anyway so you might as well like find some activities like is there like a do you like i don't know yeah do you like sports do you like i don't know are you into like lower the rings do you like larping do like there's a there's a group in a city for like anything you want to do like find some things that you like doing and maybe try to like go to those events i mean you can still be alone a lot like i like being alone all the time like my wife's like the what's you know what's your love language we talk about that stuff all the time and you know i don't know for just like gifts or whatever you had a yada and she i was like what's mine she's like yours is just being left alone i like yeah that's probably like i do like being left alone but you can't be alone that doesn't sound like a love language it just sounds like something you like it was more it was more just like you like you value your space and i do value

1:28:12my space i like to just kind of like be alone from time to time doesn't mean i want to be alone all the time or not be married though and that's what again this is the trap that you can't fall into because like yes that is a pretty attractive part of life but like it's it kind of is going to make you miserable no longer yeah i'll i'll tell you um i think like covid especially i hear because it was so much longer and then to go from like even if i were in different stretches of being social and connecticut or not and then you know with somebody or some sort of long distancing or whatever i was going into the workplace five days a week and there's there's something to that like i liked getting up and going to work i went in extremely early because i'd liked the job um i'd like the whole process of trying to figure out like okay what am i going to do today and all that kind of stuff and then as soon as the day was over i'm like i'm out of here and then it's you know the rest of my routine and there was always somebody around but i would say i mean this is turning into something different here but me working from home and i don't want to

1:29:17not work from home but there are stretches where i'm like wow this has been this has been we're on a run here that's not yeah although i hadn't seen like in Connecticut i would do something where i'd be in the basement i'd go all right it's been and i would count it i was like it's been 68 days since you haven't done this sat here watched basketball games but again i was going into a workplace with all of these people walking around saying hi to everybody and like look there was still some juice to espn for you where you walk into the building and you know you go to the cafeteria you do your routine and granted once i got an office i was like pumped because i was like i can just go in there and hide and i just took the show like i need to get through and figure out what all the shows stuff is going to do but i know that and i'm maybe i'm speaking to this guy maybe i'm not but i'm just telling you there can be some patterns that you can get into where it's easier but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's better like easier isn't always better and my workday

1:30:18my routine is is easier and i'm not saying i wish i had to go into an office five days a week but i think there'd be some things that would be a little bit better if that were the case yeah i'd say plant some seeds at work and uh see if that works i'm old now so it doesn't matter and then just try to like winner maybe it's indoor golf league you know those are expensive if you don't have three other guys to go so you might be able to jump into one of those for some for an hour or two bowling i know i bring up bowling a lot but you'd be surprised how fun it is when you try it um you know we got cosmic bowling here on on friday night i think so i try to yeah push yourself like you said it's not it's not the easiest thing but like push yourself to do one thing there and yeah try to see if you have any real relationships at work i don't be sick cosmic bowling yeah google that that's awesome back in the day these are good ideas i don't i'm dived swear to god yeah i know they'll love the way you just said cosmic bowling but uh i know you didn't like it just trying to give this guy some actionable steps

1:31:24have you met friends long-term at cosmic bowling no but i go there with friends you know what i mean but i will say this about bowling alice you already loaded up i will say this about bowling alice the bar there is always ten times better than you think it's gonna be and there's a couple people that's beautiful there because they know it it's always ten times better than you think it's gonna be but kaw i think you can become friends with anybody and you're fine with it i think there's other people that have kind of like like i think one of the best things about you is that you don't have to reach a minimum threshold right you don't have to have ten thousand dollars in this account to make sure that you're not getting charged for checks physical checks you look at people in a very open way and so i think for other people it might be like how many friends am i gonna meet at cosmic bowling that's all i think it's a credit to you i just don't know it's it's applicable to everybody okay i rescind cosmic bowling i feel like you're still taking it as a criticism i rescind cosmic bowling officially what is a good hobby to meet to meet people though i mean swingers

1:32:29just look for the pineapple yeah i think anything that there's like seem to get along pretty quick anything that there's signups for and especially something that's like you know i'm not saying we should go you should go on the highest hill in town and look for with all the birdwatchers at 6am but like something that they need maybe to fill out a team for i don't know like there's got to be some sort of that i did that yeah i probably picked town pickup hoops i would play in the uh in the summer league and i was playing with these like dudes that were still in college and like if i was you know they're great dudes that would have never been him otherwise they're awesome like if i was in a different place my life we'd be grabbed beers afterwards it was fun like more people are playing botchiball that i in my life now than ever before it seems like so that's a thing you're young too like that that that age group like those guys are just dying for excuses to just do stuff so like it's actually once you kind of like get in like it's going to be easy to just like have activities to do you just have to find that in yeah you need the one you need the one but some guys you know can be really tough like this guy's not cool enough i don't want to hang out with him uh this one's i don't know man this one's so bad i'm not even it's like it sucks

1:33:37uh i'm gonna double check i'm gonna research this one i'm gonna run it through a machine or something is that fair i think i'm gonna hold off on this one through the AI machine yeah i mean it's it's it's pretty bad so like depressing bad or yeah it's depressing i mean it's not like said i'm pretty depressing till none Thursday last week i think we should need a break anyway yeah that was a tough one look we all know NFL Sundays are sacred and so we found the perfect way to make sure we don't miss a single snap of NFL action we're fully dialed in to NFL Sunday ticket and youtube tv when you bundle NFL Sunday ticket and youtube tv you get every game every Sunday period the best part the multi-view feature lets you watch up to four games at once so you can track your fantasy matchups in real time watch your favorite players and keep tabs on everything across the league it's the ultimate setup for the NFL season plus new users can jump

1:34:41in now for eight payments of $30 per month go to youtube.com forward slash NFL ST and get it done don't be the guy guessing what's happening in other games be the guy in the living room who sees it all new users pay $240 or eight non-cancellable payments of $30 a month first charge it purchase availability varies with NFL Sunday ticket for out of market games in youtube tv for local and national games youtube tv required terms restrictions and embargoes apply divising content restrictions apply to multi-view commercial use excluded no refunds all right how about 35 of my mom owns me fellers 6 to 210 former college hockey player father of two and built like a refrigerator box back story married two kids as you recall two year old son six month old daughter wait what's going on here did this guy hit us up all right my cousin we're not all that close getting married like George New York at the end of September late George could spawn I guess I'm trying to figure it

1:35:42out and if I'm being reasonable or selfish for the sake of being obvious going as a family would mean taking both kids on a plane for the first time to flights each way looking all things necessarily keep two small humans alive running a car driving an hour and a half staying in an Airbnb setting up two separate baby rooms the wedding itself and doing the whole thing in reverse a few days later boy when you put it like that two and a half sentences even without anything else going on I can't make the math work the occasion of the cousin wedding doesn't justify the chaos in my mind but we're also dealing with a pretty serious situation with our house leaks mold house down to studs temporary housing well and maybe relocating again so my tolerance for voluntarily adding more chaos right now is extremely low my first choice is to go by myself I'd still be there for the wedding and the idea of one or two nights alone in a cold dark quiet hotel room where nobody needs anything for me sounds incredible right now boy you you're speaking the 65 on the A's see as soon as you drop your bag yeah see how cold this can get I like it Stanford Steve said it's a 55 you wake up with the strep throat and it'll be like so what we had to share a room once

1:36:44in Mississippi I woke up the next day I was sick for like four days wow I was like dude are you serious so like did you put did you hack into that like a golf cart right so go I like it cold oh man that was when Gottlie booked us a room for camp newton's first game Auburn at Mississippi and then couldn't make it and then we showed up there was only one hotel room and then we were like how for three dudes a three of us gonna sleep in the two beds but it's good thing Gottlieb missed it or he would he would have bronchitis someone say did on purpose yeah um that sounds like a very Gottlieb thing to do without her we're like what you're like yeah two rooms they're like it was only one look a tough place start real tough place to get a hotel room last minute so maybe not got leave the stand at all I'll never forget that then driving back just nasal drip the whole way back to Tuscaloosa I was like why did you have to set it tall off because he's a beast dude

1:37:45he's a he is a beast more I hear about him the more I'm totally clear on that he was the next day he was like mad at me for being upset it was cold yeah I was like what the fuck did you do last days ago what what adapt right word of a blanket choose to not be sick dickhead sorry man what was Rose Bull like all right my first choice is to go by myself all right so here we go through that um not because I don't want to be around my family I think I'm just tired the real complication and why I'm coming to the tripod of understandings my mom she's assumed to sort of unelected an unofficial matriarch role of in the family um I know she'll be very unhappy if I say the kids aren't coming more importantly she'll try to negotiate decision to death different flights hell oh god I know exactly what you're talking about here different sleeping arrangements whatever makes a trip technically possible she has a PhD in guilt trips and taking things absurdly personal most likely I'll say something snarky rude or even worse

1:38:49because I'm sick of the conversation I have a hard time being direct and honest with her because I know the reactions I'll get so I usually just give into what I know she wants or avoid the discussion entirely so I'm being unreasonable here is this one of those family events where you just suck it up and bring everybody is it fair to say I'll come alone the kids are staying home and this really isn't up for an negotiation like a big boy how does sorority manage the family expectations of his own kids help me Steve do you ever lie to your kids sick to get out of something I have not done that yet um although man we just had a stomach bug that ripped through our house the way you said that I know you mean it was a tough you know like you just like you know when you're so sick when you're like I'm never gonna feel good again that's I was really I was in that I was like I don't even know what feeling goods feels like it's been so long and it only been like 24 hours it was like it was like a pretty it was like a 36 hour bug you know and and I didn't you know I wish I could I call you during it I had it was it was like a Thursday so I had some slack messages and I was like late getting a couple things to you guys and I felt bad but I

1:39:53would do I was I was in bed all day I couldn't eat and then you know it's one of those situations too we're like you know that you're feeling worse because you're not eating but you just have absolutely no appetite like it was just a disaster so anyway long story short I haven't really used it as an excuse I'm sure I will in the future but I do have experience with the mom thing now my mom is a lovely woman shout to Ange but she does she is a little and she listens to these bosses she'll hear this but I you know I don't think I'm speaking out of turn oh no she's a guilt tripper like you know she she knows kind of how to be like oh you're really not gonna come to this thing you know she'll the thing that she does like they live up in Chad am in the cave and they have a lovely ranch house like three bedrooms and you know I've got three sisters my sister just had a kid and she wants all of us to like come up and stay in this house I've got two kids one of them needs to sleep in a room by themselves they have a newborn and you're like mom I want to do this but like the logistics just do not make sense like and do you do not do we not get a grasp on this and but it's just like kind of the constant sort of like oh really okay okay and she's disappointed like what I'm staying right am I a bad guy now because I don't want to go hang out with mom it's not

1:40:57that so moms are kind of good at that sometimes I would say you just have to put your put down man if if you if you're if you are allowed to go by yourself that's the move 100% that's the move yeah because like I I you know traveling for weddings kids that whole thing nobody actually it's also amazing how when people who have kids and then they like grow out of it they forget how hard that kid phase is they don't they don't like understand that like bringing them as the starts like did you just go through this like 20 years ago how do you understand how difficult this this whole process is and what you're asking me so I think you just you gotta watch out for yourself I think that's whatever you're happy is is whatever you feel like you're comfortable with doing and by the way if we're talking like ages the young baby is probably going to be fine a plane I think I'm we flew with with our when I think when Marlow was maybe three months it's like bottle up flight bottle down and they sleep in the middle the problem is the two year olds going to be an issue and then if you got two of them I there's just no way that flight is going to be enjoyable for you and anybody else around you so not only you helping yourself you're helping the rest of that plane um so I you gotta look out for yourself and you know if you kind of piss and family members off

1:42:02you do but don't get over it's not the other one yeah if you're not gonna have to do a week of repairs when you get back home after you left your wife with those kids you know for the whole thing as long as she's like on board and it's not like I guess if you really need to go you can just like you know how to read that situation if that's not gonna be the problem for you when you come back yeah I'd go out there and I just lied to my mom say the kids are sick because people respect that they really do they back right off yeah when he started talking about how she was gonna like plan it for him I was like oh because I I know that person and it's it makes you even more mad in a way it's like hey it's clear I don't want to do this so now you're gonna start feeling there's actually only a 45 minute layover in DC and like this will great this will work and you're like you're missing the bigger point I don't want to do this or I'll say about guilt tripers is they don't really ever stop so if you don't bring the kids you show up solo it's a cousin's wedding

1:43:04it'd be fine you know you show up you explain all the stuff that you have going on at home she can do whatever she wants you have to figure out a way to be immune to it because here's the thing is there's going to be something next summer that she's going to do to you all over again and I don't know that it stacks up I don't know that it's like a credit score where the guilt increases because you didn't do this but like what's going to change so it's going to happen even if you brought the kids and everything was great know that there's probably another scenario looming in the future where she's gonna do the same thing all over again so you're like this didn't even repair anything it didn't fix it didn't change the course of time it's just what she does so if you can kind of look at it that way going hey if I bring him she's still gonna do this to meet some other event so I'm not gonna bring him and she's gonna lay into me and it won't change anything so fine and then you'll be in your room at peace and get to sleep in until 815 yeah as long as you don't need to be right it's awesome it's got a remodel going on once you learn that you don't have to be right and you can just say sorry's or yeah you're

1:44:06right didn't think about that you need to do this man you may need to have that like little breakthrough I remember like the first time I realized I could probably tell my dad to just I wouldn't want I would never say to my father fuck off but like it took me a long time as the oldest kind of just go like yeah I disagree man yeah and it was like I remember that shit I remember that combo the first time and you're like whoa I could just not do this I could say no yeah I think you're wrong and I'm not doing it wait later yeah yeah cuz I don't like I don't mind that my dad was still in my head to the age that was late I think when you're the oldest is something that definitely happens you too but I might not even have been right about whatever it was and I was it's like yeah okay cool don't want to do yep appreciate your concern out like I'm not I'm not gonna argue with you anymore I'm not doing what you're asking me you bring up a good point earlier though too about the guilt trip or thing like they don't they don't he doesn't get any really better in my opinion they don't it doesn't get any better or worse like you can say yes or no and do all these things and they're

1:45:09just gonna be the same baseline almost every single time you know like there exactly if you if you start saying no there's still gonna keep asking and if you do a bunch of the stuff they're still gonna keep asking so you you just pick what you want to do and it's probably gonna be the same for you no matter what happens God what were you like 12 the first time you're like I actually disagree you know it's just it's different because the parents were divorced forever so I just had two totally different audiences and one that was like well what's going on over there and I'm like you know what the fuck I'll tell you what's going on over there and then I get all jazzed up to come back and be like well you know I heard something else actually so that was like that was a little bit tougher when you're split in the week in half you know what I mean it was it was kind of fucking crazy honestly but yeah that's where you get to talk about all that stuff no I was like the I was like the silent guy banana splits I don't think I was there that long but I was I was not sharing their kids crying in there man their kids crying in there at lunch come on yeah that's that's that's that's that's that's that's what you know today man you pulled me out of here for this

1:46:13shit some of the joe I would definitely have sloppy joe lunch it wasn't often I feel like or your top three lunch school lunch because I got it's right off the bat I would say triple decker grilled cheese day was never had that must be some Connecticut piece today and I don't know where it is today yeah we had tacos every once in a while I mean it was like the bare minimum for tacos but yep oh probably the garlic bread sticks yeah I kind of like the corn it seemed like it was lame to like the the little portion of corn but I fucked with it I don't think we had sloppy joe but anyway you're dying with a sloppy joe you're like Marcel Marceau the rest of the day that ring a sloppy joe sees it around your face that I ever tell you guys this too I forget if I brought this one but yeah what do you talk about I used to sell my lunches like at lunch to buy hot lunch like I might make a sandwich I would sell it for like these bucks and buy hot lunch damn were you did you not want to be a a bringer or did you just you you really appreciated

1:47:19the high lot I'm not a coke I wasn't really a cold cuts guy especially like I'm gonna brown bag of all day like I know I know even to this day I'm about a huge cold cuts guy so I would just yeah this guy a two fifty three bucks and we trade back chips in there too man yeah I think it was like two fifty for hot lunch back then right some like I don't know it just seemed like you were less cool than the hot lunch kids like I I would have sometimes I bring to it's like yeah nice a pulverized peanut butter and jelly great nice it's it's all purple now yeah but you're even just showing up there you know with your you sit right down with the bag I don't know just something about it seemed like less cool I cared too much you know my parents cared too much you guys are just in the world figure in life out and I got my bag lunch that's just how I I never really put in the words until right now but that's I always felt that way I'm ever having a little bag lunch episode when I was really young because my dad was the type to like if we were going to get peanut butter we'd have the peanuts ground in the health food store and then it would be in the tub and I'd be like when I go to my friend's house their peanut

1:48:22butter seems to taste way better than this horse shit maybe in the year that was ahead of his time now that's now that's cool yeah you got to go to the rear of the gallery and yeah it was a cool major and not open up the bag and I think I just like open my bag up and there was I don't know if it was gorp I don't even think it was called that back then and then there was some sort of like homemade peanut butter thing and then like likely a vegetable or something maybe yogurt it sucked if you were eight you were like is there a therapist here I can talk to you right now this like sucks yeah I know I remember just kind of like opening my bag and I was like staring at it and I was upset and then I remember the teacher coming over and she was like what's wrong Ryan I was like I just hate my lunch I still remember it's like I hate this why do they keep doing this to me yeah it's like I don't I don't like any of these things we never getting in good yeah never getting in good over there I'd like rather just buy lunch and that looks like shit to like early 80s hot lunch yeah yeah so I remember like another teacher came over you know

1:49:28just like I'd shit myself with something like hey let's give a couple people over here and I'm gonna treat this one Deli remember like one of the other teachers being like oh my god you have like that granola or you have that yogurt or oh my god is that is that homemade peanut butter on 12 grain you know I remember like looking at her being like you're fucking old of course you think this is cool like I'm eight the kids gonna fucking fruit roll up that one over there is like something Capri Sun it was that from the future is that astronaut shit I was like I got I fucking great water I'm fucking water I want some I want some flavor oh man that is funny just look it around nobody trade with me I was like the guy in prison with no cigarettes you know just fucking looking around going oh man so I want that to be my life yeah yeah

1:50:32never forget the other older teacher coming over trying to talk me up just hype you up right like you're watching that gore yeah it was yeah you're the dead shows you want to fucking bring this with you anyway all right that'll do it for life advice thanks to three thanks to Tom thanks to Kevin and Kyle who I'm gonna go with cosmic bowling I'm gonna go by myself next week as that's up check out the bar dude you're surprised I think we should start doing that to each other is sign each other homework assignments not like hey this will suck next challenges yeah I thought you were gonna get your time we're together we should do it we should do a cosmic bowling video all right done a real cosmic bowl yeah I think I should go by myself and see if I'm being meet anybody make any for you yeah uh what was the one you had to watch a movie right sorority oh yeah what was it I didn't watch it feel the dreams right right oh yeah feel the dreams yeah yeah it was once feel the dreams I like know what the movies out did Ryan on the under on like 30 minutes before

1:51:33he taps out he's gonna text he's gonna text me in 15 minutes going are you serious I'm fuck off right do you want to do this on one say I could do this on one say I could do it tonight or tomorrow I don't know sounds like it and it over something sounds like you got wiped out pretty good by that book uh when the clear all right sounds good thanks again everybody Ryan for social full episodes on Netflix please subscribe bar stress sports