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All right.

Going to Wisconsin today, we're going to Fondalac, Wisconsin.

Yeah, everybody's heard a Fondalac, which is Fond to you, lack LAC, and for some reason

the dew is not capitalized.

Don't know.

No.

It's capital F Fond, lowercase DU, lack with a capital L, LAC.

So that's French, yes.

I would assume so.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's definitely not German.

Yeah, I think the dew means of, probably, yeah, yeah.

It's all from Lakey shit.

Yeah.

We'll find out all about it.

Oh, cheese from the lake.

Lake cheese is what it's called.

What's Fondalana?

Curds from the depth.

This is in Southeastern Wisconsin, about an hour 10 to Milwaukee, where we will be performing

on September 18th at the PAPS, so you can get your tickets for that while there's still

some left.

Can't wait.

Let's do it.

An hour 20 to Madison, where we were last year, very last year.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was a theater that had no security, and people were wandering into our green room off

the street.

That was fun.

Hey, they should get some goddamn security.

Sorry.

That was fun.

That was the craziest thing I ever saw.

Thank God it wasn't like some crazy giant bearded guy.

I think I was just some lady who was nice, but she could have stabbed us and killed us both

in there.

She had the same interest as what generally a murder, and that's to be close to a mission

achieve.

Luckily, she wasn't physically imposing, so we were less scared than we might have been.

And I think she was as surprised that she made it in as we did.

She was like, shouldn't they have security?

She was like, shouldn't they have some security, and I was like, yes, they should.

Just matter of fact, there you are, there you are.

Why are you here?

I don't know.

Well, that makes fucking three of us that don't know why you're here.

Maybe you should go back unbelievable.

This is two hours from our last, well, Wisconsin episode, I was called it, I was called

it, Mill Conson, like Milwaukee, Wilkinson, here is a monomy, two hours from there.

That was the singing serial killer, which you got to, you got to hear that one.

If you have an episode 647, this is in Fondelac County, area code 920 population, 44,412,

so good.

There's a lot around it, too, where people are that kind of work around the farm country.

Outside of this, yeah, for sure, median household income here, 56,561, which is 12,000 below

the national average, but the median home cost is also low, so it's all relative.

176,200 bucks, you got a little winter, like half the national average, not bad.

Yeah, I think it shoots up in the summer for like, what, the four days of summer that

Wisconsin has?

The four days of that wet fucking, it's crazy.

You walk outside and your clothes are soaked, I've never experienced that before.

Yeah, it's humidity and rain and everything else.

Wow.

Fondelac is French for bottom of the lake.

Bottom of the lake.

Bottom of the lake, where the cheese comes from.

That's not a positive thing, right?

I guess not.

Come to the lake.

That's where you put corpses, you know, there's mud, there's nothing good at the bottom

of the lake.

Things with claws on them.

Giant cat food.

Eating corpses.

It's not good.

Carp.

Yeah.

It was named because of its location at the bottom of the south end of Lake Winnebago.

Oh.

You know, in 19th or 1836, a guy tried to make Fondelac the capital of Wisconsin, which

didn't work.

That makes Chipick Madison instead.

So not sure.

From June to August 1944, the Fondelac County Fairgrounds, where people are eating, you

know, like fried dough and and and and and and shooting water into a clown's mouth.

Okay.

Yeah.

How's the prisoner of war camp that held 300 German POWs.

So there was that.

At the fairgrounds, the workers worked on p farms and canneries that summer.

Enjoy the zipper.

There you go.

There's a crazy person from here.

Don Gorski is from here who is the Guinness record holder for the most big max eaten.

You've seen that guy.

He was on the super size me documentary.

That's him.

That's him.

He eats like three big max a day or some shit for it.

It's that guy.

I think it's fucking dead.

He's dead now.

Well, he was from here.

Super size me guy.

Yeah.

He's dead.

Well, Christ, it was how long ago.

If that's the soup.

What is it?

Not Morgan Spurlock.

The guy, the guy that they show that has the record for most big max eaten on the documentary

super sky.

Yeah.

Not Morgan Spurlock.

Sadly, and somehow I think the big Mac guy outlived Morgan Spurlock, which is if he's

still alive.

He did.

That's what I mean.

Because he know when he was filming, he was like, Jesus, this guy's going to be dead

any minute.

And he outlived you.

That's crazy.

Reviews in this town.

We've never been here.

Let's find out what people think.

Here's five stars.

Fundal act is a very good town.

All right.

There we go.

People know everyone.

You okay?

That's okay.

You don't know.

44,000 people.

This is not a town of 700 people.

44,000 people is a decent sized town.

You don't know everyone.

That's a lot of people.

A lot of people.

People know everyone.

You're most likely to go somewhere and will know someone.

That's maybe a more decent neighborhood too.

You know.

There's no two, three people at the mall.

Yeah.

There's not a lot of crime that goes on compared to other places.

Okay.

It's all relative here.

Three stars.

I've lived in fondal act my whole life and I've always had a love-hate relationship

with it.

I live right in the middle, so it's great to go everywhere within 10 minutes, such as

my high school.

This is a high school kid.

The community isn't the greatest, though, with lots of violence and crime.

Violence.

Okay.

So we've heard two completely conflicting stories so far.

The high school children are exposed to lots of violence and crime, so one person said

not a lot of crime.

They said, chock full of violence and crime.

Two stars here.

I heard about crimes that went down, but never really experienced them too much.

I heard of that.

I heard tell at one point while I was taking my dog for a walk at night, some guy started

following me in his car and another time I saw a guy just sitting in his car with a

knife.

Just sit.

Okay.

What?

Apple in the other hand?

Yeah.

Is that a...

That's a weird way to just sit in your car with a knife.

No, you're not going to get to anybody.

You're inside a car.

Was it Christopher Lloyd?

Yeah.

What are we talking about?

What was that movie?

Oh, Dennis the Menace.

Right?

There you go.

Yeah.

The lighting at night was awful, and over the past few years, the crime has been rising

as well as drug use, such as heroin, such as...

Yes.

And then the next one, I'll read just one, the first opening here.

One star, because it's a long one.

That's really, really with a lot of personal beefs.

I have been all over the U.S. and Fundal Act has to be by far the worst place I've ever

lived.

The armpit of Wisconsin.

Ah.

I'm the bottom of the lake.

Bottom of the lake.

I'm shocked by the good reviews and can only assume they are people who haven't had

enough life experience to know any better.

This town is a dump.

I'm shocked.

Wow.

Things to do.

The fondue fest.

And it's fondue like the cheese.

Is it really?

No, and it fondue, yeah, with an E. They say they get 25,000 people here, and it remains

fondue.

It remains fondal acts largest one day festival.

Wow.

With stages of all kinds of live music and kid zones and craft vendors and farmers markets

and cheese and chocolate and fondue, and it's all happening.

Fondue has really gotten, it's got the best reputation of all things that are like...

It dips and it's popularity dips and ebbs and flows a lot.

Real big in the 80s when everybody bought everybody a fondue pot, nobody ever used them.

And then in the 90s, you couldn't find a fondue anywhere in the world.

And then in like 2012, there was fondue restaurants popping up.

Restaurants.

Now they're all out of business.

So it really goes up and down.

But it has, but anytime somebody mentions, don't be fondue.

You're like, oh wow.

Really?

It's a strawberry in that chocolate, yeah, sure.

For the cheese and meats, it's all fucking great.

There's the fondue feast challenge, which is part of Falltoberfest.

Just call it Octoberfest, you can't.

I don't know what's going on.

There's four rounds of speed eating challenges with fondue.

That sounds dangerous.

Someone's going to be having problems with it.

Speed eating fondue?

Yes.

And then there's music in the streets, baby.

You bet.

Also at the outdoor patio at some place.

And okay, we got, until dawn, we'll be playing from 11 AM to 2 PM, which is pretty fun.

And until dawn.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

They start almost at dawn.

They started fucking new.

They start closer to dawn this way than they end up.

Yeah.

Then second ride will play.

Then smart mouth, not to be confused with smash mouth.

Smash mouth.

Well, I think are dead.

Are they dead?

I don't think the one guy had a health problem.

I think the lead singer is dead.

Then Kip Jones at the coveted 10 AM spot, smell and fondue cheese farts all the time.

130 coming hot.

Okay, 5 PM free time at 9 PM, 6 pack 12 bar will be there at 5 PM.

And then it's, they play four fucking hours.

Or I think maybe they stop and then in the middle they have the eating contestant and

they have fans or something.

9 PM.

6 pack 12 bar.

Yeah.

Okay.

From 3 30 then in another place, Kate Voss and the hot sauce.

Yep.

Then from 8 to 11 PM until dawn, I'll be playing again.

So that's close, almost.

And at 7 30 at some other location, D Willie and the souvenirs.

Not Willie D.

Not Willie D from the ghetto, boys.

D Willie.

Different guy.

Awesome.

So if you can't make that, make sure you go to the sturgeon spectacular, fishing

fucking tournament, it's in the winter and it says, check out the premier winter festival

in the Midwest, whether you join the always popular Wisconsin snow sculpting championship.

Oh boy.

Or a bunch of other shit.

It's there.

So you can go to that and they have a bunch of music there that looks terrible, including

that.

So they, because it's so fucking cold here, at some point, you have to embrace the

cold and just be like, we're doing something fun in the cold.

Let's do that.

You're sitting inside for six, eight months, six months.

Yeah.

That's it.

And then the packers stink.

Then what do you do?

That's what I mean, which is a lot.

Well, then what happens?

Yeah.

That said, let's talk about some murder.

Let's do it.

Let's do this.

Let's start in 1990.

Different times.

Okay.

1990.

Let's talk about a young lady in 1990.

Her name is Barrett Lynn Beck.

So first name, Barrett.

B-E-R-I-T.

Barrett.

They call it.

Oh.

Yeah.

Barrett Lynn Beck.

She is 18 years old, born in 1972.

She's got a dad named Dave and a mom named Diane, and a brother named Ben.

So she's 18.

Two D's named her kids, two B's.

Two B's.

Yeah.

That's right.

I grew up in Stirdivant, by Wisconsin, which is in Racine County, which is at the bottom

down south of Elinor, Illinois, border there, about an hour's out.

It's her teachers, right?

Yeah.

Obviously, yeah.

We know that.

Racine peaches.

Was it, were they?

No.

No, it was Rockford.

Rockford peaches.

Racine was the yellow team.

Were they the...

They were brown and yellow.

They were terrible.

They were brown yellow.

They don't think they had a name.

That's where Kit got traded.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Racine.

All the peaches.

Yeah.

Well, she threw it.

You know, Gina Davis, I'm sorry.

You know what?

Kit's never going to learn.

You know what?

She was hungrier than her, James.

She said, you wanted it more than I did.

It's it.

If you have a little brother, you block his shot in basketball.

You spike it to the ground, or he's never going to get better.

Ever.

I just had...

This is probably the most observed thing in the history of that movie.

At the beginning of the movie, she told the big brother, let him have a chance.

And then told the little brother, kill him.

That's what happened to her.

I'd never noticed that until I...

Yes.

That's how it works.

What the heck?

It's up for shadowing it, obviously.

How many times have you seen that movie?

What?

30 years late.

Probably what?

50 times you've seen it.

If you can't keep the ass healing.

A good 50 times.

She basically just told him.

Throw the game.

Let him win for Grace.

He did it.

That's nice.

That's why.

Yeah.

Wow.

So, yeah.

She grows up in a little, you know, suburb here.

Yeah.

So, it's the summer of 1990.

She plays a bunch of instruments as well.

She's, like, loves music.

That's what she's into.

Yeah.

Like, she's a real vibrant, you know, out there doing stuff.

Yeah.

There's a Wisconsin young girl.

She goes hard.

She's got energy.

Yeah.

And she's got, like, everything we don't have anymore.

She's got in Spain.

Just like, everything that dies, that dies in like your late 20s.

Yeah.

When that sparkle just kind of goes out of your eye and they dull over, she's got all

of that.

Her eyes are wide open.

For having no babies, parents.

That nice.

Yeah.

No divorces.

No kids.

No divorces.

Just easy life so far.

Yeah.

She got hired as a secretary at Bolt Construction Company in Appleton, Wisconsin, which is a brand

new job.

Now, the company was bringing her up to Appleton for a three-day orientation seminar.

Nice.

That's what she's doing.

And she, this was the beginning of, you know, she's starting to do, I don't think she's

going to college or maybe she's going to college in the fall.

I'm not sure here.

But she's ready to go on this trip to this, you know, this little or whatever this is,

a orientation seminar three days.

So she packs up.

She's got a two-tone gray GMC conversion band, Big Old Dittler van.

Oh, wow.

Convergence.

So it's got a bed in the back.

Yeah.

It's a big boy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's just a big, giant fat van.

It's cozy.

So July 17, 1990, she's leaving.

Sterva.

Sturtevent.

I want to say.

Stivacent, like Bedford, but it's not.

It's sturtevent.

She's head north and her dad's seeing her off Dave is out there and.

It's his van, right?

It's her van.

She owns that.

I assume he gave it to her or I don't think an 18 year old kid in 1990 said, give me the

the giant gray conversion van. That's what I'm looking for. That's probably the van's

years.

The auto trader going, dad, this motherfucker doesn't know what he's got. Man, I'm telling you

me spinning in those captains shares. That's where six grand. He's asking three. It's possible.

But unlikely, although you could fit a lot of friends in there if you're a teenager and

dad would be safe because it's happy because it's pretty safe. It's huge. It's going

to plow for whatever you hit. So 3500 OBO, we can get that for 28. I guarantee it. I guarantee

29 tops. Take the 29 and just we'll call it that. So she said when he says, be safe.

She says, don't worry, dad, all the people up north are good people. And she pulls out

heading up to northern Wisconsin where everybody's happy. So she drives north. She drives north

on U.S. Highway 41. And it's from Milwaukee kind of goes up through the state toward Green

Bay and plugs the eastern part of the state. And it's just farmland. Sure. I've driven

this area. It is farmland with signs for places that sell cheese on every exit. Like seven

like house of cheese places on and every gas station has that bullshit. That's occurred.

And and spotted cow. Yeah. Barba jazz beer. Sack, sack of curds. No, thank you. I don't

want your oily curds in the back. So anyway, that's what it is. And fondle act is about

halfway up the route to where she's going. So she stops, which makes sense. It's halfway

to her destination. It's about 11 a.m. on July 17th. She pulls off the highway and heads

to the forest mall, which is at the intersection of the U.S. 41 in Wisconsin Highway 23. It's

a big mall. And this is how 1990 it is. Kmart is one of the anchors still in the mall.

The mall. Kmart's an anchor. So that is that's old school right there. I've. Wow. I've

ever seen that. The mall by me growing up. Kmart was the anchor on one side. Really? Yep.

And then they built a better mall because Kmart was the anchor of that mall. So they were

like, I never saw. It's right for the picket one. It was either dillards or robinsons.

And I was out of the end of it. Yeah. And then I'd have JC Penney in the middle somewhere.

Yeah. Here it's filings on one side, which is East Coast dillards, I think. I think I

think I'm saying company. And then whatever on the other side doesn't matter. Walgreens is

the other is inside the mall. Not the anchors. This is a wild mall. They got a Walgreens in

there. No, a Walgreens in a cable. Walgreens isn't the anchor. Walgreens in a mall. It's

just came where it's really these are details. We don't need to be bogged down in at this

time. What other commerce is there James? There's a chess game, Jimmy. You want to talk about

that? Do they have the pleated acid acid, acid, acid washes? Because I'm really looking for a pair

in 1990. Is there a Brookstone? I need a massage. There is a sharper image in here with a chair

that you are just going to love. Let me take you there. So in 1104 inside Walgreens, she makes a

cosmetic purchase at Walgreens. The register receipt timestamps at 1104. Yeah. She buys a

Jolen JOLN hair bleaching kit. She's very blonde. She's got the super blonde Ric Flair 80s hair.

You know, she's going to blonde it again. She's going to bleach her hair before the seminar. So

she looks fresh. So she walked back to the van. And that's it. It disappears. Never seen to

again. Never seen again. We know she walks out. There's no outside security cameras. Nobody

sees what happens to her. We just know that her van, she's just never gone poof like it never happened.

So that is July 17th. Now her parents expect her to be gone for a couple of days. So they're not

expecting her. And back then, you don't have cell phones. Long distance calls are expensive.

People aren't always calling telling everybody where they are texting all that shit. They're just

I'll be back in a three days and they go, okay, bye. Sure. So July 19th, the gray conversion van

is found locked in the Kmart parking lot across from the forest mall. Now also here, I'm sure

that maybe her work people said she didn't show up. Probably called her house. Her parents probably

said, well, she left. She should be there. And that's probably why we're looking for her van at this

48 hours is a long ride. It's a long time. Yeah. The the keys are missing from the van, but the van

is there. Okay. And it's locked. So now there's witnesses around saying that the van's been there

since probably the previous evening, which is the 18th. But she's nowhere to be found around here.

Obviously. Now inside the van, they find several very suspicious items and some items that just

might have some evidence that could help them with this. They find a ripped red t-shirt. The back

has been cleanly cut out of it. Like someone took a razor and cut out a strip out of the back.

They find the Joel and Harebleach kit purchased at 11.04 a.m. still in the bag. They find a burger

king cup with two separate sets of fingerprints on it. Okay. They find a cellophane cigarette

wrapper, which is discarded under the passenger seat. That's the wrapper on the outside,

exactly. That fell under the passenger seat. And those things have a static cling to them. And if

you lose it and it clings to something, it's gone forever. You're never going to find it. And that's

what they find in there. You can't get your box. You pack back in that motherfucker. Oh god. No,

yeah. Good luck. If you can, that's better than operation. That should have been a game for kids.

You want to see if you got a steady hand. Get a cellophane on a pack of cools. And we'll see how

steady your fucking hand is, Basil. I don't care if you get the wishbone out. Let's see what you're

doing. Good luck. They also found large piles of cigarette ash on the floor behind the front

passenger seat and to the left of the driver's seat of her van. Piles of ashes. Yeah, she doesn't

smoke, by the way. They find a duffle bag. They find condoms. Oh, they find a small piece of cut

nylon from pantyhose, a strip of nylon. They find her employment manual from the construction

company, which she was taken to the seminar, and they find an empty McDonald's bag

from Racine, where that has a receipt that's timestamped earlier in the morning. So we go,

oh, a Burger King cup and a McDonald's bag. Yeah. And the McDonald's bag is after the Walgreens run.

No, before. No, okay. She got that down there and then drove up and got that. That's okay.

So she doesn't smoke. So obviously the piles of ash are a concern. And the Burger King cup is odd

because the only food stop that she has a receipt for is McDonald's. And that's earlier in the

morning. So why would she stop at McDonald's? Then stop at Burger King over the course.

That's a fingerprint tool. Yeah, over the course of just a couple hours. And then the weirdest

part of all is the odometer. Okay. She was heading to a business seminar. So she was tracking her

mileage because she got paid for it. Oh, yeah. Or she could write it off or whatever. So you

can track your mileage. Talk about a responsible 18 year old. No, she's track. Well, I needed for

tax purposes. Like, yeah, Jesus, this kid's awesome. So anyway, she had noted her starting figures.

So we know where the van started. Yeah. And how long, how many miles it is from her house to

where the van is now? Right. On top of that, in the two days since she was been seen, the van

has accumulated 462 miles somehow. That van's been moving. So somehow he just added to what it was

as an extra 462 that shouldn't be there. For her house to this parking lot is so much and plus

460 something. Exactly. So that's crazy. So now they're like holy shit. What happened?

Yeah. Somebody's been driving the shit out of this car. Yes. And they're immediately afraid

that she's been she was abducted and that somebody drove her around Wisconsin for two days,

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couldn't they don't know where the van went, obviously, but and where it stopped because there's

no other like receipts or anything that they can tie it to, but it definitely drove 462

fucking miles. That's irrefutable. So it's a mystery. This is a crazy mystery. Not only is this

girl gone, but her van is in the same place she left it, but it was driven 462 miles then brought

back to this exact spot, which is insane. Now has a lot of pieces in it that shouldn't be here.

It's we got a real weird one here. So the sheriff described it as a bold stranger

abduction probably. That's what they said. So she had her hotel reservation. She didn't make it and

there's a statewide. I mean, the media covers this thing like crazy statewide. I mean,

it's a missing 18 year old blonde girl. I mean, we're going to yeah, it's their going here.

She I guess they were they said she wouldn't ever run away from home. She wasn't that kind of

person. She had toured the country with the continental singers, which is a Christian music group.

That's what she toured around with them. Her aunt said, someone must have caught her off guard.

And they said, this is past the second day and we haven't heard boo is what her dad says. So

they're very scared, obviously. July 20th 1990, they're searching for everywhere. I'm trying to

find her. The day after the van was found, there's over a hundred volunteers that fan out across

the area, distributing posters and asking people if they've seen her, if she's 5, 10, 140 pounds,

blonde hair, last seen in blue jeans and a red t-shirt. So, you know, pretty, you know, statue-esque

18 year old girl who's blonde. If she's around, everyone on earth will notice her. Yeah,

at least every guy will. Every guy on earth will at least go. Look at that giant striking tall blonde

girl. There she is. Yeah. Wow. That's pretty cool. So she'll be seen. So the red shirt that she was

wearing is the one that's in the van with the back cut out. Oh, no, which is not good. That sign.

They don't quite know that yet, but we'll find that out later. They keep searching. They find

nothing. Weeks go by one week, two week, five weeks go by. No new leads. There's nobody comes

forward saying, Oh, I saw over here. I saw her over there. No witnesses. No leads. No signs of

her. No nothing. Just the van. The fingerprints. The villa will get to that. The van and 462 unexplained

bits of mileage here. So they can't find her though, obviously. And they said, this is the

an FBI special investigator said a young good looking blonde girl by herself and she's walking

into a mall would really stand out if someone is scoping it out. There's Ted Bundy's dream. I mean,

that's what he he tried to get that girl in the mall. Yeah, right. Usually not tall blonde girls,

but he didn't really have right. Yeah, he would. Not the appearance, but certainly a pretty

alone girl with dark hair down the middle. That's that's the thing. Yeah, but there was

blondes that he went after too. Did he get some blondes? Yeah, he was opportunistic. I mean,

they had to be pretty that he knew about, but yeah, the little girl in Florida was a blonde. Yep,

he didn't care. Whatever he saw at some point. August 22nd 1990. So this is some time has gone by

here. Really? She went disappeared on the 17th of July. This is on Brown Road in the town of

Wappen in Fondelac County. A man named Michael Plume Plume. Wow. P. L. U. I. M.

Snow plume. I guess Plume because Fritz, you know what I mean? That's what I was I was thinking

that, but then I've never seen that in the name before. It's very odd. Don't like it. I don't like

it at all, Michael. He changed that change your name, Michael. You can do it. You're an adult. So he's

near Brown Road, which is a rural Fondelac County Road here. It's about 18 miles from Forrest Mall,

where she disappeared. There's a clump of tall weeds along the drainage ditch.

This guy's walking along and he sees something and sees some blonde hair. Yeah. And it turns out

it is bear in a ditch. So badly decomposed after five weeks of summertime that they need dental

records to identify her. Damn it. Which is horrifying. Terrible. Terrible. Just dumped in a

fucking drainage ditch on the side of the road. Somebody's daughter. That's horrifying, man.

Jesus Christ. And it means also she was taken from that spot. Right. It's just terrible. It's

terrible. So cause of death, this strangulation and suffocation as well. Terrible also. Again,

with her is a red piece of cloth, which is the fabric cut from the back of her t-shirt. It was

used as a blindfold. Oh, what the fuck? And they find that he that it was cut off while she was

wearing it. Which is also horrifying. Imagine how terrifying that would be. The psychological warfare

that's horrible. They also recover of the length of nylon cut from pantyhose that was used to

bind her and they have the shirt used for a blindfold. So they processed the scene. They already

have the van and they bag everything up. So in total, the problem is DNA technology is just barely

coming right now. I mean, it's a lot. And you have to have a pool of blood or, you know, like four

hairs with the root still attached. You needed a lot of shit. It wouldn't have just been, you know,

a swipe on your finger. And then you need a pool of suspects to test to test. There's no data

base. Now fingerprint comparison in 1990 requires a known suspect to compare it against. You can't

just put it into the database, let it run through the computer and see. So if you want, in 1990,

they still weren't especially in Wisconsin, in rural Wisconsin. Maybe, you know, Los Angeles

County or something. So a wealthier place. But they're sliding sheets around looking at,

not this one's close, not this one. Yep. So that's tough. So neither of these things help you if

you don't have anyone to compare them to. So otherwise, they have this Burger King cup that they

think was brought by the perpetrator because she stopped at McDonald's. And if you're a McDonald's,

girl, you're a McDonald's girl. You're not a big, you're not a Burger King girl.

That's a good point. She's a big Mac check, not a Wapper gal. You know what I'm saying? So

they have that and they have the mileage and they think that's all they really have to go on.

They have an initial press conference announcing no suspects. This is September 14th. And they said that

they're the investigation proceeds without any outside agency assistance. So there's no state

police coming in here. There's no, it's the sheriff, Jim Gilmore. And the investigators are

thinking it's an auto burglary theory. Like they were after the car, which is the dumbest thing

I've ever heard because they took the car and then gave it back. Yeah. So that's a bad auto thief.

Plus condoms. Yeah. Terrible auto thief at that point. We're really bad at it. I'll say.

So they have a suspect after a minute. They have a suspect and they think this is our guy.

His name is Craig. Nicknamed psycho. That's what he's known as Craig psycho,

Ron H. R. O. N. Why does everybody's last name suck? Dude Wisconsin is a just a

minefield of last names. It's all there's Polish names and there's. Yeah. What's your last name,

Ron? That is Ron H. Ron. So nicknamed psycho. Yeah. That's a good guess on. Let's question him.

They're pretty polite in Wisconsin. You got to be real crazy to be psycho in Wisconsin. You know

what I mean? Like before they conically kind. Before they would bestow you with that nickname,

you'd have to like eat several toddlers or something before they'd be like, man, he's he's a real

psycho, huh? Or he held the door for somebody and then bought their gas and then pumps it. That's

a psycho. Although in the Midwest, I'm not sure that would be considered that crazy. They're so nice

there. I feel like they would just do that for you. They really are so good. So goddamn nice.

So he's a career criminal, a car thief, a bank robber and you know, a psycho generally as we know.

He robbed a bank in West Bend just days after the murder took place and ended up going to

federal prison for it. So when they're looking at him, he's already in prison. Now they latch

on to him because when he's found he has a hairbrush that has several blonde hairs in it that don't

belong to him. Okay. So they think those might belong. It might be her hairbrush that he stole and

it's a trophy at this point. How did we get on him though to look at his brush? Because he's in the

area and his name is psycho. Okay. Yeah. That's literally why it is. There's nothing else to connect

him to it. He's he's the craziest fucking the area. And when they found him with the brush with

the blonde hair, they went, there's a, oh, and they connected it and said, there's our suspect

because where the fuck else did this brush come from? So he's there suspect that he's active

in auto thefts and robberies in the area in June and July of 1990. They theorized that he targeted

her van for the electronics because she had a radar detector and a CB in there in 1990. That's

big stuff. Yeah. So they said it wasn't for the actual van. It was for the stuff in the van. He

was in Fondelac the week of the abduction and drove unusually high mileage all the time as well.

A Washington County, County farmer identified psychos, I'm sorry, identified Barrett's van

near, uh, whoa, he was K was come. Oh, K E W A S K U M.

Yeah. K E W S K U S K U S K O my hope, Jesus. On July 17th with the man matching psychos description

58150 short hair average build and said the man was hiding his face. Oh, but it's Kawaskum.

Maybe Kawaskum probably. Yeah. So he had robbed the store and they found the hairbrush or

robbed the bank. They found the hairbrush and his duffle bag along with a stolen revolver.

So a clump of his head hairs was compared to some hairs that were in the van. They thought they

matched initially, but later on years later, when DNA becomes a thing, those hairs are ruled out

actually, not his, not his. And then also one of someone he knows named Tim Adminson initially

said that psycho admitted killing back and showing him Barrett's body in the van. But then he later

recanted passing a lie detector test. Why do people do this? He said he got the details from

the media and just, you know, blew it up. Now also psycho's girlfriend isn't helping his cause

either. His live and girlfriend, Jeanette Michelson, uh, she and she said she and psycho checked

into a fondal act motel the same week as the abduction psycho. Mom, I'd like you to meet psycho.

Hey, mom, how you doing? It's your, just rip sand full of hairs out while he's sad in there.

There's a man named psycho who has a live-in girlfriend picks up the cat,

licks it, puts it down, nice to meet you. Yeah, psycho can get a girlfriend. Wow, it's sad.

So the cat goes tastes like paprika, tasty. So they stayed in a fondal act motel the same

week as the abduction. Um, he made statements to police. He made them weeks after the body was

found here. He's, uh, or she did, I'm sorry, a Jeanette, the girlfriend. She told investigators that

psycho was on a quote suicide run. Oh, like fucking Bruce Springsteen or something. Yeah,

born around them. Yeah, that's right. Uh, and was quote capable of anything. And he's named

his psycho. We got that already. We inferred it. We, we understand. They said he'd been thinking

of killing someone that week and that there was quote, he said there was quote, no turning back

after July 20th. Uh, the day after the abduction, July 18th, he allegedly told her it's all over with

now. I did it. She also claimed he repeatedly beat and choked her as well. The girlfriend,

sure, which yeah. So the detectives lean heavily on her because she seems to have a lot of

information. Um, her statements appear in search warrants and court documents. And she's also

shows investigators a locket that psycho bought her on July 17th at Uffin Beck Jewelers in Fondalak,

which supported, uh, part of his, uh, saying that he was in the area that was there. Yeah. He was

in Fondalak. So in 1991, detectives obtain a search warrant against psycho declaring in court

documents that he is quote more than likely involved with the case. He's the likely. He's the guy.

So the detective here, uh, said quote, we kept running into things that brought us back to him.

Psycho everywhere we turned. It seemed like we shouldn't be looking at anybody else but him.

So anytime somebody else would come up the information, we'll lead them back to psycho. Um, how?

Over the next, uh, let's see, uh, uh, 19 years or so, 20 years or so. What? Go by no arrest.

Their it's family has no closure. Nothing. Nothing. They're sitting here wondering what the

fuck happened to this poor girl. Oh my God. For over 20 years. That is awful. For up until 2013.

Stop this. Then they reopened the case in 2013. 23 years. 23 years of nothing. Um, they never

arrested psycho. They don't have anything. So, uh, uh, during this time, and this is more

specifically before between 2004 and 2013, some of the physical evidence in the case started

vanishing from the sheriff's evidence lockers here as it does. The torn red shirt is gone.

The nylon pantyhose binding is gone. Um, it's that's all that those are very important pieces of

evidence and they're gone. Uh, nobody has a complete explanation. The sheriff's office has no

trail of, you know, chain of evidence. It was just it was destroyed or it was put in a storage

facility. They have nothing. They say that staff either misplaced them or accidentally discarded

them, but they're gone. How do you accidentally go in the evidence locker and start throwing

shit away? I think you see 1990 and you go, that's never going to happen. You know, I think

that's what they did. That's so fucked up insane. Yeah. That's fucked. That's so fucked up. I

would be livid if I was this fucking the Beck family. I would be delivered. You can't, it's bad

enough. You can't make an arrest. Yeah. But you can't even hold on to the shit that might someday

get you a fucking arrest. You can't, you can't have a zip lock bag on a shelf for this case.

That's that much caring of it. Those two items came in contact with the skin of the person that

did this to my daughter and you threw it in the fucking trash. I threw it in the trash. Would

be very helpful in 2013. Son of a bitch. So in 2013, guess who still a suspect? Psycho?

It's psycho. He hasn't cleared himself in 23 years. It's impossible. They say they keep going

back to him. So they said they were making statements to journalists in 2013 still about psycho.

Wow. That one about the detective saying it always comes back to him. That was made in 2013,

that statement. So they said that they were fixating it on him for over 20 years,

calling him very capable of murder and warrants, publicly naming him as the prime suspect for the

last 20 something years. There's no direct physical evidence to him. The fingerprints are not

linked to him. The ones from the say have his to compare him to not on the Burger King Cup.

So they said that later on, they said that the case is built mainly on guesswork,

hunches, and speculation. So does the FBI agree that this is an electronics heist murder?

Well, Gary Plank, who's a profiler for the FBI here, said that the sheriff's investigators

appeared to focus on the wrong motive the whole time. He said stealing electronics, I would find

that unusual. He said, I just can't imagine that in this case with a murder and all this is too

much for stealing electronics. He said that Plank said that an auto thief wouldn't even make much

money from reselling stolen merchandise like a CB or a radar detector. Yeah, a radar detector

makes you 20 bucks. That's what you get. I mean, a real crack head maybe, but they're going to do

it in a sneak way. They're not going to want to they're not going to want to deal with having a

corpse to deal with because then that's time not spent going and buying crack. Right. And I'm not

doing with them. I'm not dealing with murdering somebody over a $20 global radar detector. I'm

getting two hits off of this shit. Right. So I can find out when the sheriffs are hiding behind

the cheese saw. Right. And a midland CB. I'm not dealing with this. No. This guy said criminals

are looking for low risk crimes and in broad daylight, they risk being seen by other witnesses,

especially at a mall in 1990. And those things are hardwired in. You have to go behind the dash.

You can't just take the wiring harness off and take it out. You need the wiring. He said,

if it was a robbery, there's a little reason. There's little reason to up the ante with a

kidnapping and a homicide to steal electronics. They're not worth that much, even in 1990. They

weren't. So they theorized that investigators had theorized that psycho stole the van from the

mall parking lot because he had already been linked to a long list of auto thefts and armed

robberies. So that was why they connected him. The guy here says, I remember Washington County called

us about three cars that were stolen by psycho. He said, Ron, but psycho from West Bend that were

found in Fondalac. We were told if psycho was in your town, he murdered your girl. That's what

the thing was because he's the guy that would do it. Yeah. So I mean, that's what it is. The family

wants answers. Mom Diane said, I spent a lot of time in the cemetery talking to Barry.

I knew she wasn't there. I knew our lord and heaven was had her beside him, but talking to her

there seemed comforting to me because I would watch all the activity, watching and waiting and

hoping that the guilty person would present himself there. This poor woman, she's wandering around

cemeteries looking for an answer to why your fucking daughter is dead. This is her. Doesn't even know.

She probably not there. You probably not, but I mean, and that's the fucked up part is, yeah,

it's, it's the worst. Because that's where the resting place is so you wander around. Yeah,

you just wander around cemetery, yeah, like wandering around looking for your car keys in the

same spots in your house. And it's just basically at this point, you know, she wants something and

know what, nothing else is giving her answers. So why not? Yeah. Maybe, maybe she'll see her vision

in the pond at this point. Who knows? So 2013, when they reopened the case here, the case is

subject of a USA Today Network Wisconsin investigative report. Oh, so the press gets involved. They

realize that they're sure shit missing, the pantyhose, the red shirt, but they do have the

fingerprints lifted from the van. Yeah. So the blatant prints are refotocraft,

redigitized and submitted to the Wisconsin State Crime Lab for analysis, which by the way,

they could have done that any time after they put that automated system in. The day that fucking

computer system went online, they should have said, thank fuck, been waiting years to test this.

We got so many cases to try. Let's run it. You know, that's insane because that's the automated

fingerprint identification system. And that's crazy. So they end up figuring out that so now they

can run it against anyone in the system prints from the same person are on the following objects

of Burger King cup with two separate prints from the same person. Okay. The hair bleach kit

from Walgreens, her employment manual from bolt construction, the inside middle door window of

the van, the front passenger seat undercarriage, like moving it up or down back and forth,

and the cellophane cigarette wrapper discarded under the passenger seat. There's nine prints and

all that they have. Wow. All the same guy all matching all these. That's a lot of prints. That's

a lot. So they run it finally on February 27, 2014. I would, if I'm their parents, I would love to

go to that police station find out how many years they've had that system and kicked them in the

fucking balls one for every year. For every week assholes. Yeah. So they run it on a comparison

and they end up getting a hit. They get a match. It is a man. It's not psycho by the way. No.

It is Dennis J. Brantner. Dennis B. R. A. N. T. N. E. R. Never trust anyone named Dennis.

They're either a mess or the BTK killer or something or the three point shooter from the Orlando

no good. Yeah. Dennis Scott. So he's born in 1954, grew up in Mondovi or Mondavi, Wisconsin,

which is in the western part of the state. He's moved around a lot, lived in Green Lake, lived in

Fondalac, lived in Ripon. He's a trucker. Oh, you son of a bitch. Yes, what truckers do. They

get all over the place and they know all the back roads. They know all this. If he did this,

that's what I'm saying. How many? Four hundred miles with this girl in the car.

Well, not worried about it. Let's find out what the evidence is here. He's a long haul truck

driver since 79 also worked as a welder. Another on the people with some shady characters in it.

Not an untrustworthy job, but I know some welders and they're shady. You know,

welders are shady people for some reason. I don't know why it's a cash business. I don't know

what it is. Something about melting metal. Well, it's a job that you can do anywhere. You can

drift. There's not a lot of people that can do it. It's really good at it. You can work anywhere.

Yeah. No, that's true. That's true, but I don't know why that would make them

some shady characters, though, too. Oh, I just mean that can blow in like a drifter. It's not

that it's not that all welders are shady. It's just that a lot of shady guys are pretty good at

welding. They get into welding. Yeah. I think welding is also something especially back in the

day you'd learn in prison as well. That was a skill. I think that's where they got the reputation

probably there. He's so learned in high school too. Yeah, yeah, I did. Well, I didn't learn it,

but they tried to teach me. They sure did. They gave it their best shot. I just

didn't know the accepting of it at the time. So he works at pneumotech, which is a manufacturing

plant in Kenosa as a welder as well. So he's got two jobs. His trucking route across

multiple companies in the Fondelat in Fondelat County and Ripon areas gave him intimate knowledge of

all the rural Wisconsin highways like the one that she was found dumped off of. They established

that his delivery routes for a ripon area trucking company regularly brought him through the

intersection of State Highway 26 and US Highway 151 directly adjacent to Brown Road where she was

found in the ditch. He passes it all been through there all the time all the time. He works that

road all the time. He knows it. So the investigators after the the hit they look into him. Yeah,

they monitor his Facebook account, which you couldn't monitor a murderer's every movement like that

back in the day. Imagine they were like pull up Ted Bundy's Facebook. Let's see what he's up to.

Oh, he's out washing at a bar tonight watching the Washington game. Okay. Have you seen the TikTok

murderer documentary they caught him because he yeah, in his live chat, he was telling where exactly

he was and what time it was. Yeah. And the cops just showed up there. Hey, great. Hey, stupid.

How you doing? Yeah. He should be stupid instead of psycho. You know, he's more stupid than crazy.

So they're monitoring his Facebook account after became a suspect and they discovered that he had

shared a post about a different young blonde woman who was reported missing from Columbus, Ohio.

He was actively following and sharing things about the disappearances of young blonde women

all over the place. Oh my God. He's got a thing. So they get search warrants and they search his house

and they see as a computer, as internet like a hard drive, a memory card, a photo album and some

discs. None of the what's in there is publicly reported. Yeah. We also find out he was a heavy

smoker in 1990, which makes a lot of sense for the ashes and the cellophane wrapper with his

fingerprints on it. Apparently in 1989, the year before Barrett was murdered, Dennis had taken

a Cadillac and Green Lake without the owners consent and put more than 900 miles on it before

returning it with large piles of ashes everywhere. What is that? He just ashes in a pile. I don't know

what he likes to drive and smoke, man. He loves to drive and smoke. He says, a blues brother

this guy. That's all he is. He missed his calling hundreds of miles, hundreds of miles.

1994, he's a, I'm sorry, 1990. Oh, yeah, this is his arrest in 1994. He was arrested with charges

of unlawful restraint and battery. He was separated from his second wife, concealed himself in her

car while she was at work and waited for her. When she came out and drove away, he revealed himself,

threatened her with a knife, forced her to drive to another location and held her against the

her will for hours. That sounds familiar. That all sounds familiar. The DA at this point says,

what we think the evidence shows is that Mr. Brandner's intent and motive is to isolate, watch,

control, and possess women. This is not the only time he did this. No way. No fucking way.

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But the driving around is very specific. The extra miles kink. Yeah, but I don't know if anybody else

you'd be able to know if there was extra miles because I doubt anybody else wrote down their

mileage and had it with them when they left the house the day they got murdered. Nobody does that.

How many people have done that in their lives too? And he found them. How many exactly how many

miles are on your car? You know what I mean? You got a ballpark, but you're not going to say,

oh, that's an extra 18 miles on my car. Yeah. You're not running drugs for the, you know,

bar stales in the wire or anything. So March 28, 2014, the police interview Dennis. They

sit him down. They drive to Kenosha and they sit him down and they confront him with all this

evidence that they have, which is a lot. Yeah. He tells them, I've never eaten a burger king.

I hate burger king. So that's that's not never. How do you know if you hated if you haven't had it?

One of his ex wives, who was interviewed separately, said he ate a burger king all the time.

It was his favorite. That's the opposite. Yeah. So his greasy onion ring fingerprints are

going to be on the outside of everything he touches. So he also claimed that he was unfamiliar with

the wapen area where the body was found. And they said, well, you're trucking route. You go by

there 20 times a week. That's funny. That's your spot. Then he says he starts crying at multiple

times. And he says, I swear I did not kill her, which I want a contraction there. Let's give me a

don't or didn't. Then he says, I didn't kill her because I'm not that way. That's why I didn't do

it. The way of killing people. I'm not a murderer. Then he says, quote, because they said,

they kept going, you were in the van. Your prints are all over the goddamn van. There's no way

scientifically you weren't in the van. And he said, quote, I don't remember how I got in the van.

Well, you're done. That's over. It's over. And then he says, um, yeah, I was not I wasn't in the van

nothing. But that's what he says. And then at one point when asked directly about Barrett's body

where he dumped her, he said he couldn't remember. And that if he had done so, he's quote so

fucking sorry. No, I don't remember. I don't think I did it. But if I did murder an 18-year-old

and callously dump her on the side of the road, I'm so fucking sorry. My bad. Thank you. God.

Case closed. Have an animal. Anyway, I'll be going to Burger King. I mean, no, I don't like

Burger King. I'm done. So the game broiler. I'm going to get on. No, no, I mean, I've got her

pounder with cheese. So he's held on first degree intentional homicide charges with a $1 million

bond. While being booked into the county jail, they discover 37 oxycodone pills and additional

prescription drugs concealed in his left cowboy boot. 37. He's got an addiction. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. They didn't he didn't tell them he had him. So that's now it's making contraband in which

charge. That's so weird. Last week's expressed a guy when they busted him. What happened?

Jammed it up his ass. Yeah, you know, some balloon full of powder. He didn't disclose the pills

when asked because they before jail, they say, yeah, wherever he got now, let me know because otherwise

you're getting charged. Otherwise, it's a charge in there. Yep. He handed his boot to the booking agent.

The pills were found and he gets multiple counts of controlled substance possession and felony bail

jumping because he was on bail somewhere else. What did he think was going to happen? They were

just not going to see it. He was just going to have oxycodone in prison. He's going to turn a blind

eye. So they have a press conference where they name him as the prime suspect. It's the first

time any physical evidence has linked anybody and all of this. Beck's family said we're encouraged

and and relieved for this day to have arrived for Barrett and our family. Yeah. Now fingerprints,

that's fine. But what about murder evidence? Like it's it's a good connection and it's enough.

But it's also it can be fucked with a little bit. You can say the police, they can't even keep

evidence in store. In store, how can you trust them with fingerprints? They can't even keep a

piece of nylon. There's a way to certainly way to cast out. Then some of the way to cast out goes away.

Multiple former co-workers at the Kenosha welding plant confirmed to investigators that after his

photo appeared in the news in 2014, they came forward and said, that's the weirdo who works here

he kept photographs of young women inside a toolbox at his welding station. Oh boy. Yep,

that one specific photo was a small image of a blonde teenage girl clipped to the side of his

toolbox. He had it outside the toolbox. Stuck to a toolbox. Brandner told different co-workers

different things about who she was. She told one this used to be my girlfriend. She told another

that it was his daughter. He doesn't have any daughters by the way. In case you were wondering.

Thank fucky has no daughters because I would feel terrible for them if that was their father. So

after the name circulated, these co-workers said with high certainty that the girl on the tool

on the toolbox is barrett back. Yeah. Yeah. One said I'm 90% sure of it. Yeah. So the photographs

in the toolbox were not just that though too. They found multiple co-worker accounts describing lots

of photos of girls who look to be teenagers in his workspace. They don't have the photos.

They've been gone now, but the phone they all remember them. So these are this is probably his

treasure chest. Yeah. Those are the people that he knows. Yeah. Those are the people that he took.

The images reportedly showed girls quote appearing to be posing in campsite style backgrounds.

You know, like he drove them somewhere in the woods. Describe some as looking stiff or mannequin type.

You know, dead. Oh my god. And they also said they all looked expressionless.

You know, what if either he's making them pose that way or he's killing them and taking pictures

on that way. That fucked up. Yeah. This guy dude, this is horrifying. How many more? There's nothing

they can do. I mean, I guess you could run his DNA, but who knows if they've kept anything samples

from back then, they probably got destroyed too. You got to find the bodies first. That's the

thing. They don't even know who he killed. They don't use these pictures, but Jesus run his database,

run his DNA through every goddamn database. One on the planet. If he killed that many girls,

you're bound to get a hit now. You know, so should we feel bad for Craig Ron? Because he's been

harassed and all the murderers probably for 20 years. Should we feel bad for psycho? He's lived

a life with the nickname psycho. Tell me more. Tell me why I shouldn't. You shouldn't feel bad for him.

He was never charged with the murder, but there was never any evidence, obviously. Anyway,

in 2013, he goes back to prison for attempted murder of his ex-girlfriend when he stabbed her in a

Walmart parking lot. Psycho is all class. He's all class if nothing else. How trash can you be

stabbing your ex-girlfriend in a Walmart parking lot? Do we know where and what state was it in

Wisconsin? In West Bend, West Bend, Wisconsin. He didn't leave. He never left.

Her name was Tammy Jolly. I guess she suffered a non-life threatening stab wounds to her

right shoulder chest and forearm. He was hacker. He stabbed the shit out of her. Yeah. She lived

with him for more than four years in fondal act in West Bend. She left him around July 23rd,

2013, to move into another apartment with a different man. She told psycho. Yeah, no, God,

you can't. A guy like psycho. You know what she's psycho? You know what she told psycho? I was

tired of being punched and tossed around, you know, because you're a psycho. They said that he

attacked the woman on August 4th, moments after she finished her overnight shift at the Walmart.

That's depressing. And she gets beat up too. She worked a shift, came outside and got her

ass kicked. What a fucking jerk. And she said somehow that wasn't the worst part of my day. I

just did eight, well, eight hours at Walmart. So it was way worse. She was returning to her

Chevy Blazer in the parking lot about seven a.m. when he suddenly attacked her. He quickly pulled

out a black, black, black handled folding knife with a three inch long blade. The cop said the

complaint says she believed it was his intent to kill her, take her vehicle and her teenage son.

Oh my God. He tried to yank her out of the vehicle as he stabbed her multiple times. He accused her

of making false reports to the police in the hopes of sending him back to prison, because he had

said I've been in prison several times. What do you think this is going to do as I hold

and stab you? How dare you tell the cops bad things about me in an order in order to put me in prison

as I'm a good fucking guy. Bitch. What the fuck?

Wow. So she tried to kick him and draw attention from others, screaming, call 911. I have a

restraining order. A couple of men ran over, grabbed psycho and pinned him down to the parking lot

until police arrived. Nice. Walmart surveillance cameras captured the entire incident. He had

parked his 95 Ford Ranger truck across from the Walmart, a 20 year old truck across. In 2013,

he's on the side. He parked around the side of the building and stalked the police found a

duffle bag in his truck with a ski mask leather gloves, a crowbar, a second BB gun lighter fluid,

binoculars and a man's tie. Why does he have all of this? He's going to be super formal while he

does crazy shit. That's about seven. Okay. Gloves got my ski mask. Here's my crowbar. My BB gun

going to set some higher. There we go. Got it all adjusted. Is my, do I have a nice

Windsor on there? It says it's straight double. He sentenced to 25 years in prison for that.

Why by psycho? He did a rid of psycho for the story. 2016 is Dennis's trial. It's an 11 day trial.

The judge ruled that the defense could not bring psycho in as an alternative suspect.

This has been proven not to be his, so his name was kind of kept from the jury there.

They, the judge also said if there's ever a retrial, if any, this trial isn't go right,

there's a retrial, I might reconsider that. Who knows? The prosecution presents all the fingerprints,

his familiarity with the body dump location, the Burger King paradox there, the toolbox photographs

and testimony from all of his co-workers talking about that. In opening statements, the DA said,

draw the conclusion from the evidence. What the facts prove beyond a reasonable doubt,

he killed Barrett Beck. Yeah. There you go. The defense says, what are we talking about here?

What are we doing? The chain of custody is a disaster here. Who fucking knows what happened?

Missing physical evidence and they said fingerprints prove presence, not murder. He said,

you'll hear no evidence of any connection between the two, him and her. They never crossed paths,

never in the same area, total strangers. Don't do that. Don't explain why he felt up or van.

That's right. That's all you can do. Fingerprints prove presence. He's never been there. What?

Don't. So they bring in the crime lab analyst here, who they say that the talk about the 1990

collection process, former co-workers testify about the toolbox. They talk about the matching

fingerprints. The defense points out facts. The prosecution could not explain, including an

unidentified fingerprint on the steering wheel column. They never found out who that was.

Male DNA on a toothpick found in the van, which could have been one of her friends.

What's out? Who knows? It could have anybody, which never matched anyone including Brantner. I

assume they would test all the family for that. And the absence of Brantner's prints on the driver's

side of the van, which means he might have wiped them down with a Donald's napkin. They said,

if he drove 462 miles, why are none of his prints on the wheel? I don't care. Why are his prints

everywhere else? That's what I'd like to know. That's my main thing. The seat undercut. That's

adjusting the seat. If you're adjusting that seat, you're in that car in the fucking car.

The prosecution and their closing said, follow the evidence. Follow that evidence. And what I'm

asking you to do is find Dennis Brantner guilty of first degree intentional homicide.

The defense said, quote, these are just items in the van. Yeah, just just items in a van. I mean,

it was a, you know, kind of a crime scene that you shot in the van, James. Yeah, it's not driving.

It's traveling. It's fine. It's a sovereign vehicle. So they said they don't say anything about

whether Mr. Brantner intentionally killed Miss Beck. Nothing. The jury deliberates for a day.

And then there's a mistrial hung jury. Really? One juror. One guy wouldn't do it. Everybody

else was guilty for a moment. One one person held out and they said they will never stay that he's

guilty. That was it. They had to call it a mistrial. The defense defense motions for an acquittal.

The prosecution says, let's calm down a little bit here.

That's one guy. The defense says there was no direct evidence linking Brantner to Beck's death.

The state's entire case rested on fingerprints. No witness implicated Brantner in the killing.

No physical evidence tied Brantner to the killing. The only portion are potential evidence that could

have done so. The remnants of the red shirt and the pantyhose were lost or destroyed by the state.

But the prosecution says, oh, we're going to retry him. Don't worry about that. They do that because

a former girlfriend of his Terry Kaczynski who had initially denied dating Brantner when she

was first interviewed came forward with the correction. She said she lived with him for a year in

the late 90s. During that time, during a breakup in 1998, he choked her. And she said she was afraid

that he would harm her for talking to the police. That's why she didn't say it at first. And that

she was still afraid of him, even though he was right. 2016, there's a separate drug charges case.

He's convicted on drug charges and they sentenced him to use their may fuck off six years and seven

months in prison for bringing the boot full of oxygen for his boot full of fucking opiate here.

Early February, 2018, they reach a plea agreement. What a plea agreement. He will enter an

Alfred plea, which means he does not have to admit guilt. An Alfred plea to second degree reckless

homicide, which is not murder. I know. Acknowledging that there's sufficient evidence existing, but also

claiming his innocence. This avoids a second murder trial. Now, you figure the family is pissed,

but they were consulted throughout the process. They say I would like to I'd like to know from them

how closely and what the fuck yeah. But in sentencing, everyone in the court, all of the

Barrett's friends and family wear red because that's her favorite color. And obviously,

all I've read on because also they blood's bitch. Yeah, bitch. I knew you know,

should night was related to her, but he is. So the dad and the watch you're back in there. Yeah,

you better watch it back, motherfucker. We deepen that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying?

Dave Beck said as she was leaving, she said with a smile, don't worry, Dad, all the people up

North are good people. I waived as she drove off. Not ever thinking that would be the last time I

would see her or hear from her again. After 27 years, there's no preparation you can make for

this day. Diane mom says everyone in this courtroom, including Dennis Brantner knows what a guilty

coward he is. I like you. He did it. He knows he did it. It's time he stepped up and admitted it.

Lots of thoughts, lots of anger. We don't have to worry about Dennis Brantner being out on the

streets any longer, harming anyone else. I wish someone would have realized long ago, this man's

mentality. Maybe this would have never happened to Barry. Yeah. And her brother Ben said, I think

it's a huge win. This is a very evil, evil person that's going to be behind bars. No amount of time

could ever repay the pain and anguish he's put the family through. The judge says the public needs

to be protected from you. Yeah. You sir may fuck off a maximum of 10 years in prison.

No, we're near enough. No, we're near enough. How old is he? At the time, was he born in 50s? Like

I was 50s at this point, 55 or something. He was born in 56. I think I said her 54. The sentence

will run consecutive to his drug sentence. So 16 years. The prosecutor said in almost every

respect 10 years feels like too little. Yeah, you think. Yeah. One decade. The reason why they did it,

they said rather than proceed with a second murder trial, which might now include the alternate

suspect defense of psycho. They said that might come in. And the choking testimony and all the

other stuff, they said, fuck it. Let's just everybody said it was better to just get a plea deal.

Plus, it's been almost 30 years at this point. August of 2020, the Wisconsin Court of Appeals upholds

the conviction. But the Wisconsin Supreme Court rules in his favor on the drug charges, agreeing

that two of the counts of his drug counts were duplicative. So we're the same until them out.

So his sentence is adjusted to seven years and 60 days. The homicide conviction stands.

Yeah. So February, 2021, Supreme Court declines to here as appeal, the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

February, 2023, Brantner is scheduled. Finally, his drug charges are being scheduled to begin

serving the 10 year sentence for homicide. Finally, just two years ago, just two years ago,

but I mean, he could be out in a few years, he could be out by 2030. He got maximum of 10. If he

gets all 10 years served, they better not who the fuck is going to parole him. Yeah, you would

look at that and go, you're staying every fucking second of those 10 years, every goddamn minute.

Or the minute when we release you, we're going to make you go to the bathroom. We're going to

they can't because he'll be released. He'll be released though. Oh, we're going to we're going to

get out that day. We're going to say we can't find your socks that you came in with. We'll look for

him. You know what I mean? We don't have him right now. We're going to turn this jail upside down.

Look at the key to the front door. Who's got the key to the front? Hold on. I mean, we can't find

the key. Wait a minute. You might want to sit down for a while. Some outdated pager or something.

We'll find it. You just sit still. Come down. Your Motorola razor. Oh, man.

Barrett Beck's family established a memorial scholarship in her name from music students.

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this nice thing. So that's nice. The family seems like great people. They seem like nice people

and it's a fucking shame. Anyway, even if they seem like assholes, it would still be a shame.

The girls. But they'll also seem like a nice group of people. They've got torsion three years.

Kind Midwesterners sat for 30 years with no closure. That's fucked up. So anyway,

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