The Bennington Triangle

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5:37there, they just don't seem to happen. Now, despite the Bermuda triangle not being quite as mysterious as it used to be, there's another triangle right here in the US where mysteries still happen. And people vanish there without explanation. And if you're ever traveling through this area known as the Bennington triangle, you might want to use some extra caution. The Bennington triangle covers four counties in southern Vermont. The exact geographic area of this supposed triangle isn't well defined. And a lot of the cases we'll discuss were in the Glassenbury area, which makes some people wonder why it's not called the Glassenbury triangle. It was authored Joseph Cetro, who coined the name Bennington Triangle, not to be confused with the Bridgewater triangle. The Bridgewater triangle made up of roughly 200 square miles and located in the south, eastern Massachusetts, has some pretty strange occurrences of its own. There have been many UFO and Bigfoot settings there. But the Bennington triangle is said to be more sinister than the Bridgewater triangle.

6:38It's not just on the UFO sightings or reports of strange lights in the sky. Multiple people vanished from or died in the Bennington triangle. And these incidents go back to the 1940s. And it's these mysteries in the Bennington triangle that we're focusing on. In November of 1943, 37-year-old Carl Heratt went hunting with his cousin Henry. The two were 10 miles outside of Glassenbury, Vermont. When they were somehow split up, Henry couldn't find Carl for three days. When he did, it was too late. Carl had been killed and it appeared that something or someone had actually squeezed him until he died. His ribs had cracked and the sharp edges of the brakes punctured as long. Henry did note that he had spotted large prints from a bear's paws near Carl's body. But there was a lot of doubt that a bear could have attacked a man in this way. The bear would have had to have been quite large.

7:40And also people in the area weren't exactly strangers to what a bear attack would look like. Bears scratched, they bite. They don't normally just crush you to death. This death was different in many ways. And it puzzled and frightened locals. Some people believe there was more to the death, perhaps even something supernatural. And more of a, I'll be honest, there are a lot of things in nature that scare me. I don't like snakes. I'm scared of alligators, crocodiles, things like that. Also scared of bears. Bears can be very vicious, deadly. In fact, but you don't really think of a bear kind of picking a man up and bear hugging him to death. I mean, there is the term bear hug, but you just don't think of a bear kind of killing someone in that way. Yeah, I think of that movie, The Revenant, in order to caprio.

8:41And that was a very vicious, obviously fictional attack, but I think it was based on real bear attacks. And usually there is scrapes, scratches, bites, that kind of stuff. So for this to only be crushing that happened, it's pretty strange. And if I'm in that area, I'm sort of a bigfoot believer. I'm thinking maybe this is bigfoot, but maybe it's not, maybe it's somebody, a person of the distillment, then that's, you know, equis frightening. Well, yeah, because then you're thinking about a very powerful person. It would take a lot of power to pick someone up or, you know, kind of bear hug them and squeeze them to death, break ribs, all of that. On November 12, 1945, almost exactly two years after Carl Herrick died in the mountains, a man named Mitty Rivers set off on a hunting trip. The 74-year-old was a very experienced outdoorsman and a sun-law had a hunting camp on Glacenbury Mountain.

9:43Mitty was actually leading the group of hunters he was with to their destination because he knew the area well. The group made it to Bigfoot Hollow about four miles east of Bennington and was heading to an area known as Hell Hollow near root nine. He was walking with his son-in-law, Joe Lazon Jr., when they got to a fork in the trail. Mitty decided to explore on his own a little bit and went ahead of the group. He told Joe he would be back for lunch, but by 3 pm he hadn't returned to camp. They yelled for him, searched, and even shot their guns, but he was nowhere to be found. Once it got dark, they had to stop searching for the night. The next day, more searches were done, but the only sign of Mitty that was ever found was his handkerchief. Articles from the time do note that Mitty had been warned. Many times not to go over the ridge, but to stay on this side. Maybe despite being aware he should be more careful, he lost his footing. Mitty was very familiar with the woods in Bennington where the trip started, but he wasn't as familiar with the Bigford Hollow area where his son-in-law had the hunting

10:49cabin. Is it a stretch that he fell into a ravine or a stream? It's also possible that there was some kind of hunting accident. One article from the Bennington Evening banner noted that many hunters were in the woods for deer season and were unaware that he was missing. This would mean there were a lot of people out hunting deer. One possibility was that one of them accidentally shot Mitty. However, with this theory, you're left to wonder why they didn't just come forward if it was an accident and why no one found his body or really any sign of him. This was now the second strange case in that area in two years, but the mysterious reputation of this area continued to grow. So I may have mentioned it before, but I'm not much of a camper slash hiker. I know a lot of people love to be out in nature. I like nature.

11:49I'm just not a big hiker. Going through the woods, maybe it's all the scary movies I watched when I was a kid, Friday the 13th, all that kind of stuff. But I can definitely tell you this. Hell Hollow would not be my vacation destination of choice. I don't want to go somewhere named Hell Hollow. Yeah, it's pretty nefarious that name, but I assume from everything that we know, this was an experienced hunter or knew the area he had been there before. But anything can happen out in the woods when you're separated. You could twist your ankle, you could trip all down or ravine as we mentioned, get lost, and then you just go the wrong direction and are never found. So anything could have happened along those lines, but then again, maybe he met with some kind of foul play. Well, and the fact that it was hunting season, right, deer season, that's a scary thought as well.

12:50You got people throughout these woods, hunting for deer. How hard would it be for them to accidentally have shot, midi, it does happen. But then you have to answer the question of why no one has found his body. Now it's woods. I have done a lot of cases where woods have been searched, a body wasn't found, and then it's found sometime later. But his body's never been found. His case is reminiscent of one I saw featured on a documentary called Missing 411 The Hunted. I don't know if you've ever watched this, Missing 411 series of people that go out into the outdoors and disappear, but one of them focused on hunters. And one of the hunters was an elderly hunter that went out with a group of guys. And you know, Misses, you know, he disappeared in under similar circumstances, and they never found any any part of them. Now I don't think I've ever watched that one, so I might have to check it out.

13:51Yeah, it's a good series I liked it. On December 1, 1946, just over one year after midi rivers disappeared, 18-year-old Paula Jean Weldon wanted to go hiking. That year, Paula was a sophomore at Bennington College. She was living in a dorm at Dewey Hall and working at the school's cafeteria during breakfast and lunch. After she got back from work that day, Paula told her roommate that she was going for a walk. Nothing was out of the ordinary about that, even though she had seen somewhat down lately. But the sunset, it got dark, and Paula still hadn't come back. At first, her roommate figured she was studying in the library on campus and lost track of time. But by morning, she was worried. It seemed clear that her roommate had never come back from her walk. It seems like Paula planned to make it back to campus that evening. She wasn't wearing clothes warm enough for the overnight temperatures. She was last seen in jeans and a red jacket, and she didn't take any money with her. Students at Bennington College were required to sign a law.

14:53If they were going to be out later than 11 p.m., Paula hadn't signed it. Further evidence, she planned on returning. The next morning, she missed her classes. Students were also required to check in with campus security. When they returned to school, after being out later than 11 p.m. Paula never checked it. And as a result, she was officially reported missing. Paula's father offered a reward for information regarding tourer wearabouts. He promised $5,000 if she was found alive, and still guaranteed $2,000 in the event that she was dead. He really just wanted to know the truth about what happened to her. He was desperate. Late on December 4, a local man named Lewis Napp came forward and said that he gave Paul a ride before she disappeared. She had been hitchhiking from the college when he picked her up. He was only going to his house, which was on Route 9, about 3 miles from her final destination, the long trail. But that had been good enough for her. She accepted the ride and he dropped her off at the end of his driveway at around 3.15.

15:55The last time he saw her, as he was heading inside for dinner, which was always served by his wife at 3 o'clock, Paul was walking the direction of the entrance to the long trail. Man, I thought we ate early. We usually eat around 5.30. 3 o'clock is really early for dinner. Yeah, that sounds like he's probably one of those people that's in bed by 8 o'clock. But the other thing is this does kind of put Lewis on the radar. He is presumably one of the last people, if not the last person, to have seen her alive. He gave her a ride. I mean, he's going to be a person of interest when it comes to the police. Yeah, the last thing you want to do is have the police looking at you for something you didn't do. But he did the right thing. He came forward and shared what he knew. And unfortunately, in the minds of police sometimes, that will get them looking at you. Investigators had searched other areas for Paula until Lewis came forward with his information.

16:56Up until then, investigators had no idea she had headed to this area. And he didn't know she was missing until he saw an article about her disappearance. When he saw it, he came forward immediately. Still, valuable time had been lost. Just hours after she would have made it to the trail, it started snow. At least 3 inches of snow had fallen, since she was last seen. Temperatures dropped. If Paula was out there, conditions would not be ideal for her. It's assumed that Paula did make it to the long trail. Because a couple who was also hiking that day, recalled talking to her on the trail in Woodford, Hull. She was last seen walking north near the faithful or camp. However, the couple didn't say anything about her wearing a red jacket, which would have been pretty hard to miss. Authorities were also able to confirm that there had been another blonde girl. Similar appearance to Paula on the trail that afternoon.

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20:59and tried to hitchhike back to the college only for the wrong person to pick her up. And along these lines, there's one suspect that stands out more than others. A man named Fred Godette, who lived on Harbor Road, which was at the time part of the long trail. He admitted that he saw her the day she disappeared. According to the Bronathan Daily News, in 1952, six years after Paula vanished, someone claim that Fred Godette told them he could locate Paula Wilden's body within a few yards. He would later say this was just a joke. Fred was in Bickford Hall of the day, Paula disappeared, and he gave multiple versions of what supposedly happened that day. One of those versions included following her up the trail. He was never charged with anything related to her disappearance. So I talked about Lewis Napp being a person of interest. Well, obviously, this guy, Fred Godette, has to be a person of interest as well. Very strange to me, right? I like to joke around, but I would never joke around with somebody

22:02and claim that I knew something about a murder. I committed a murder. I could locate a body that just doesn't seem like to be in any way a joke. I've never understood why people would connect themselves to a serious crime like that. It's one thing if you want to tell a tall tale about a fish that you caught and how big it was and it got away. That's one thing to play around with your friends, but something like this, this is very serious. No matter what befell Paula after she left the campus, one key question remains. Why was Paula even trying to get to the long trail so late in the afternoon? Some people think Paula was experiencing mental health issues. She hadn't returned home to Connecticut for Thanksgiving just days before she went missing because she was upset with her family at the time. Articles note that she and her father had some kind of disagreement and that she felt her parents loved her siblings more than they loved her.

23:06This has led many to believe that Paula could have gone into the woods underdressed for the weather on purpose as a way to end her life, but none of the witnesses that saw her that day recall her being upset or seeming depressed. In fact, she seemed cheerful. This is cause speculation that Paula ran away on purpose to start a new life for some reason. Some people speculate that Paula's mental health was suffering because she was in a relationship with one of her professors. It's interesting to note that many books have been inspired by Paula's disappearance, including Shirley Jackson's, Hang's a Man. Her husband Stanley Heimann was a professor at Bennington and went on to marry one of his former students after Shirley passed away. Author Hillary Wall raised the idea that Paula was dating a professor. Author Susan Scarf Merrill seemed to have believed that Shirley and Stanley were involved in Paula's disappearance and biographer Judy Oppenheimer noted that Stanley often carried out affairs with his students. Paula was also unsure about her future. She was majoring in art both starting

24:10to wonder if it was really for her. She was considering studying botany instead. A CD professor could definitely extinguish her passion for the subject, but it's also common to change interest as you get older. So as is often the case, right, there's a lot of speculation regarding Paula's disappearance, but this angle that some people have brought up that maybe she was dating a professor or was in some type of relationship with a professor. I don't really know how that factors in to her disappearance. Maybe people hypothesize that this professor was at the root of it. I'm not sure. I think in cases like this, when somebody goes missing their life gets looked at from different angles and spotlight it's cast on it and they just people will start looking for anything to try and explain what might have happened. I think in this case, there's just not real evidence of

25:14to go in any one direction. Paula is still missing to this day and no sign of her was ever found. But her disappearance would have a lasting effect on every missing person's case that came after hers in Vermont. Week points in the investigation and the search for Paula directly led to the creation of the Vermont State Police. Paula's father never gave up looking for his daughter and always questioned what really happened. But he was proud of her legacy. That being that the Vermont State Police was created to help keep Vermont residents safe and investigate when they vanished and people did continue to vent. Sixty-year-old James Tedford didn't disappear in the woods but he was lasting on December 1st, 1949 exactly three years after Paula Weldon disappeared. Over the years, details have been inserted into the story of his disappearance, each version becoming more and more spooky. The most modern retellings have James disappearing between stops, vanishing from a bus

26:19while it was in motion. But that's not what actually happened. It's not exactly known when or where James actually disappeared. What we do know is that at the time of his disappearance, he was living at the Bennington Soldiers' home. There's no specific information as to why he was living there, but the home was intended to shelter disabled veterans, and James was a veteran of World War I. His wife Pearl was living in Franklin about three hours north of Bennington. In November, he was visiting Pearl and her family. December 1st was the day he was set to return to Bennington. He got on the bus in St. Albums at 6.15 pm, but by the time the bus arrived at its final stop, James was gone. It might have been easy to track James down if the search had started right away, but he had been away from the soldiers home for a week before he was even reported missing. The bus driver recalled James, or at least someone fitting his description, getting off at the stop in Brandon around 8 pm. In the same night that James reportedly got off the bus in Brandon,

27:24a taxi driver noticed someone the Bennington Evening banner described as, quote, acting queerly, downtown around 11 pm. At the time, that term meant that the taxi driver noticed someone acting kind of strange. It's sort of the old-timey version of recalling that you saw a suspicious person, but there's no further information about his behavior. All we know is that he was acting in such a manner that someone noticed and remembered it as off. But the man did fit James's description and was wearing clothing very similar to his last known outfit. Different articles list various ages for James, 65, 68, 69, but the only marriage record that seems to match James placed him at just 54 at the time of his disappearance. 69 sounds right to be living in any kind of care home, but 54 is quite young for that kind of thing. It's unclear the extent of James's involvement in the war and what kind of injuries he may have suffered while serving.

28:26No matter which of those ages was accurate, we know he was experiencing something in his life that many was unable to live at home. James was a world where one veteran and could have been suffering from mental health issues like PTSD, which were poorly understood at the time, were cognitive issues like dementia. He was described in various articles as frail and thin to the point of emaciation. And one person even said he was despondent on the day he was less seen in Bennington. Yeah, obviously, you know, this case goes back many, many years. So we don't have all of the details of what was going on with James, but we did say, right? He was married. He had a wife lived, what, two or three hours north of where he was living in the home. So whatever the reason for him to be living there must have meant that she wasn't able to take care of him or he wasn't able to make it on his own living with her. And maybe if he was suffering PTSD or something like that,

29:28he may have, you know, not wanted to frighten his wife or, you know, go into rages or anything like that. So maybe he thought it would be better if he lived in this home. Whether these actions by James were due to mental health issues in general or due to living at the soldier's home. It's not really surprising that he wasn't happy with the idea of going back there. He had actually been very vocal about his plan to never return to the home. Before he left to see his family, he told others at the home that he wasn't coming back. However, at the bus stop before he board, he told his friend Walter that he was headed back to the soldier's home. Maybe he was just trying to stop anyone from interfering with his plan to get off at a random stop. Or maybe he was planning on returning home and something happened along the way. No sign of James Tedford has ever been fat. I think what's frustrating in this case, there's a couple possibilities, you know, that seemed to

30:29stick out. PTSD mentioned that he was in poor health. You know, he told someone of a plan not to come back. You know, to me, that really jumps out. If you tell someone you're not coming back to this home and then you disappear, that's going to stick with me. Yeah, I think that's much different than a lot of the unsolved cases we cover, right? You have a person who is in the middle of, you know, their everyday life. They haven't given anyone in the indication that they're unhappy, that they're, you know, thinking about starting a new life. This one's a little different. Just for that fact, he actually did tell someone he had no plans of returning to that home. But then what, you know, would he have done? Start a new life? And then there would never have been a sign of him. That part is a little strange, not saying it can't be done or couldn't be done. I think it

31:32probably was even easier in the 1940s. But it's also very likely that, you know, he met with foul play. You know, could someone have viewed him as vulnerable and taken advantage of that and made him a tart? Yeah, I think elderly people, not in the best health, are often preyed upon by, you know, people that are looking to do harm and they look at them as easy marks. So that, that's what can be the case. I also wonder, could he have chosen to take his own life? And he just went out someplace peaceful. This is an area we talked about as, you know, it sounds like it's pretty open. Maybe he found a spot where, you know, he took his own life and he's just never been found. Yeah, I think that's, that's obviously a possibility you have to consider. Less than a year later on October 12th, 1950, eight year old Paul Jeppson disappeared while his mother was doing chores. He was last seen around 3 pm when he and his mother arrived at the Bennington dump. The Jeppson's

32:37own pigs that were kept there and she had to tend to them. She left Paul in the car while she took care of them. When she got back to the car about an hour later, Paul was gone. He could have been taken from the car where we could have managed to get out on his own and wander off. There were woods nearby and unfortunately, Paul was wearing a brown and tan outfit which may have effectively acted as camouflage. If he was somewhere in the woods, he may have blended right in. It's possible he was right there and no one was able to see him. One theory is that a passing driver accidentally hid him while he was wandering in the street. It's not a location where you would expect to have to watch out for a child with no one else around. The driver may have panicked and put Paul into the car. Effectively getting rid of evidence that a crash happened. This theory gets brought up a lot in missing persons cases but there's really no evidence to back it up. If you're afraid because you hit someone with your car, you're adding a slew of charges. Once you move them from the scene and don't try to get them any help, you then also have to deal with

33:42the issue of disposing of a body without leaving a trace. That's not as easy as it sounds. This makes the hit and run and the disposing of the body theory very unlikely in the opinion of many people who discuss this case. I get the first part more if you're out in the country somewhere. Let's say a rural location. You probably don't expect to have to watch out for kids. Much different if you're driving through a neighborhood or something like that but if you're out on the back roads, it's not somewhere that you expect a child to be playing in the street or run out into the street. I don't know how many people if this was truly an accident would then try to cover it up and dispose of the body. Truly an accident you call the authorities and you go from there.

34:46There you take them immediately to a hospital and obviously they checked that out. That wasn't the case. You didn't show up in any hospital so we're left to wonder what happened to them. A search was done for Paul and it included sent dogs and it turns out a sent dog did track from the car Paul was last seen in to nearby intersection before losing the scent. This seems to imply that Paul could have been taken from the scene in a car. He could have just been an abduction. But according to his father, Paul had recently started expressing a strong desire to go into the mountains. Paul has said to his special needs and this could have been a tragic case of a lote man. To this day no sign of Paul Jepsen has ever been found. After the disappearance of Paul Jepsen, there would be more people who vanished or died mysteriously. And we've talked many times about how amazing these dogs are. Here we are in the 50s. They're using sent dogs and they're able to track Paul from the car to an intersection.

35:48But that's where they lose the scent. That comes up in a lot of cases. And the first thing that pops into most people's minds is, okay, the scent was lost because that's the point where the person that we're searching for got into a car. And there's no way for the dog, obviously, to follow the scent from there. Yeah, it's very frustrating. I can't imagine what his family was feeling, just wondering all the possibilities because there's nothing that really points to one of them happening and then having me go the rest of their lives and never find out what happens to him. That's got to be a really tough situation. And I can only imagine the guilt on the part of the mother. Yeah, she left him in the car for an hour, which is a long time for an eight-year-old. They probably didn't think about it as much in the 1950s as we do today. Most people wouldn't do that today for sure. But I'm sure there was a lot of guilt there that she had to deal with.

36:53Like Middie Rivers, 53-year-old Frieda Langer was an experienced hiker and hunter, she disappeared in the woods near Somerset Reservoir, just 16 days after Paul Jepsen vanished. During a hike on October 28, 1950, she lost her footing and fell into the string. She told her cousin to wait there while she ran back to the camp and changed. She was supposed to take a shortcut to save time, but she didn't make it back to the campsite and she didn't catch back up with her cousin. When her cousin finally decided to go back and check on her, the camp was exactly how they had left it. No one had seen her. It was clear that something had happened to her on the way back to camp. Frieda Langer's body was found on May 12, 1951, seven months after she vanished, about three miles from where she was last seen. The area had been searched before, but not thoroughly. If she had fallen in a ravine or was in the string, she may not have been spotted

37:53during the first cursory search. Investigators also believe that her body was washed down stream by melting snow once the temperatures rose, moving her body to an area where it was more easily found. An interesting side note is that one of the fishermen who discovered Frieda's body had actually found human remains before. This was nothing new to him. It probably didn't help to spell the rumors about the Beninton Triangle. If this were happening today, there likely would have been a ton of theories about his involvement in all of the disappearances in this area. Yeah, pretty rare to find human remains to have it happen more than once. All right. I mean, are police going to possibly think something of, yeah, maybe. But this guy's a fisherman, right? He's out there a lot, so I guess it could happen. Yeah, that's not something, you know, it's like the odds of getting struck by lightning or hitting the lottery. This is probably something that you're not wanting to do more than once, or once at all. No, it's definitely something you don't want on your resume.

38:58Due to how much time had passed, investigators weren't able to determine how free to die, but police believe that the most likely explanation is an accidental drowning. It's possible that Frieda had a seizure, which caused her to fall into water and drown. She had been experiencing seizures since a brain operation five years before her death. A metal plate in her skull, placed during that surgery was used to help identify her remain. It's rare, but sudden exposure to cold can trigger seizures in some people, even with no director, known trigger. Looking back, it's also possible that the first time she slipped into the stream was due to an oncoming seizure. Whether she lost her footing or briefly blacked out, this kind of thing, warning signs and symptoms, is common in people who experience seizures. The same way someone can tell a migraine is coming on well before the pain is actually there. Loss of coordination, dizziness, confusion,

40:02and even muscle jerks can all happen long before the actual seizure occurs. In the end, with no evidence one way or another, we can only guess what happened to Frieda Lengar. And to be honest with you, there are numerous possibilities as to what could have happened to Frieda. But those possibilities exist in a lot of the cases that we talk about. Now, the fact that a lot of these are happening out in the woods or in areas where it's easier, I think, to have a mishap. You got to take a look at that. It was known. She'd already fallen into the water once. So was that a sign that she was having some type of medical issue and that got worse as she was trying to make it back to camp. And I think that's a definite possibility. And always you have to look at foul play. On her way back to camp, did she run into someone who

41:09was looking to hurt someone? Yeah, I think both options are certainly on the table. To me, I think it's a little less likely that you're going to run into some violent killer that means you harm out in the woods. We know it happens. But with history of these medical issues, I can see a situation where the seizure comes on. She falls into a creek and then she's helpless and dies. And then as we talked about, whether the snow melting carries her body to a different location where it's found, but unfortunately, we'll probably never know what happened to her. On November 29, 1950, just over a month after freed a langer headed back to her camp and into the unknown, 16-year-old Martha Jeanette Jones was reported missing by her parents. She hadn't been seen in a month by that time. But no one knew she had disappeared because she didn't live at home. She lived there at school, earned Burton's seminary in Manchester. And when she disappeared,

42:12her parents thought she was safe and sound on campus, while staff at the school thought she had gone home to see her family. So you can imagine how this delayed anyone realizing she was missing. There's also a mention of a soldier she was in contact with who was stationed somewhat nearby. At first, her family didn't worry because they thought if she wasn't at school, she must have gone to see the soldier. But eventually, they realized she was actually missing. Four years later, in 1954, Martha was found alive. It turned out she was using an alias, living her life near Fort Belver, Virginia, where she worked as a waitress. So while her case initially bore resemblance to some of the other mysterious cases, there was no mystery here. Martha chose for personal reasons to leave her old life behind. And it's cases like this more that I always think about when we're discussing unsolved cases. Because you know, very often in an unsolved case, there is that possibility that someone

43:14just left their old life behind to start a new one. Now, I normally think that that is the least likely scenario. But we know it does happen. There's proof. There's been many cases where someone is thought to have gone missing, maybe been killed only to find out that no, they just have been left and they're alive and well, living their life. They just wanted to get away. And I think back in the 1950s, it probably would have been easier to disappear and start over, not having a social media and electronics and tracking and stuff like so she was probably able to do that relatively easy. But at least her story has some kind of resolution. We know what happened to her. If we didn't, then we might be wondering to this day what mysterious thing might have happened to her out there. There's no doubt that in the 1940s and 50s, the Bennington Triangle earned quite a reputation due to the cases we discussed. But

44:20it seems as if the list of mysterious cases there dwindled a bit as the decades passed. And in some cases, when things happened there, there were simple explanations. For example, in 2008, a man got lost in the woods in the Bennington Triangle, but luckily made it out and survived to tell what that experience was like. 27-year-old Robert Singley actually went hiking at the very same spot. The Paula Weldon was supposed to go hiking the day she disappeared. His story can help us understand just how quickly things can go wrong in the woods, especially once the sun starts to going down. It can get completely dark in many spots in the woods and in the mountains long before the sun actually sets. Due to peaks and trees blocking out the light, using a site called Shade Map, you can see that some parts of Glastonberry Mountain can be in darkness by 4 pm while the

45:22sun doesn't actually set until closer to 7.30. In the winter, when some of these disappearances happen, the effect is much more dramatic. Shadow start being cast around 2 pm. And once it's 4 pm, you have less than half an hour before you're in complete darkness. Robert experienced this. It was confusing and frightening. He told the Bennington banner of this phenomenon. He said it just suddenly got dark. Robert thought he was about a quarter mile from his car and had no idea that he had actually ended up about 7 miles from it. The panic and confusion and lack of clarity is common when people get lost in the woods. Yeah, I've gotten lost in the woods a couple times. I've got lost in the woods once when a bad snowstorm happened and you start getting white out and everything literally starts looking the same. And I think you've got to really

46:22stop, compose yourself and grasp the situation, try and take a mental note of, okay, what do I have to look for, what do I have to do? Get a plan to find your way out. Luckily, for me and for Robert here, that happened, but there's undoubtedly cases where somebody gets lost, gets turned around, and they never come out of the woods unfortunately. So I said earlier that I'm not a big hiker. I mean, this episode is not going to help me pick up that hobby. I mean, it's just not. The thought of just getting lost in the woods is pretty frightening. And I think it's clear that it's not an isolated occurrence. It does happen. There's one more case of a missing person in the Benigny and Triangle that is not always associated with cases we've discussed. On or around October 11, 1942, 13-year-old Moulvin Hills disappeared while hiking the long trail.

47:23There are not any news articles about him that we could find from the 1940s. And it's not until 1996 that article started to mention his disappearance. And every article just mentions that the 13-year-old also disappeared. There are no further details. For now, his case seems like an interesting possibility when considering the Benigny and Triangle mystery. Maybe the answer to what has happened in the Benigny and Triangle lies within the Triangle itself. And for hundreds of years, strange things have happened. Multiple locals and people who have hiked in the woods, near Glastonbury, have described having an odd sense that they were being watched the whole time and also describe a general eerie feeling in the area. Just a weird unsettling energy coming from the woods. This feeling may be due to rumors of the Benignyton monster, Glastonbury Mountains version of Bigfoot. Rumors of this monster go back to the 1800s when a horse-drawn carriage got stuck on a trail

48:26all around the carriage. Large footprints could be seen in the mud. They were much too bit to have been made by a human. The carriage was said to have been attacked by the Benignyton monster. The carriage was thrown onto its side while the helpless and terrified passengers waited for it to be over. The pair of eyes could be seen and a roar could be heard. Then the creature was gone. In 1879, hunters shot at a wild man with red hair. They spotted in the woods north of Poundal. Later sightings of the monster brought more detailed descriptions, more than six feet tall, and covered in thick black hair. In addition, there are Native American legends that say the Benignyton triangle and the surrounding woods is all curse land. There is even an Algonquin tale of an evil stone that could swallow people whole. So after hearing all these stories and legends from

49:29that are you ready to go hiking? No, I am that much less ready to go. Now, I know you've said it before. More if that you've talked about big food and things like that. I don't believe any of that stuff. I know there are a lot of people out there that do. I just feel as though if there were such things, we would have found concrete evidence of them. But I get it, people believe in different things. I think there are still things that we don't know about as advanced as we've become, and there's many tools and technologies that we have. There are still things that we can't explain. In an area where this were strange stuff happens, I think it's only natural that people might think about some of this stuff and just wonder if there's anything to it. Yeah, I do think it's very interesting that a lot of different civilizations or cultures

50:31have their own form, right? Whether you call it bigfoot, saskwatch. There's all kinds of different the Loch Ness Monster. People over the years have come up with these things to, I don't know, maybe help try to explain certain occurrences. I'm not sure what. Or maybe they're all real. So one thing I'm curious about is what listeners think. What's going on in the Benken Triangle? Is this a series of accidents separated by miles and years? Is there something mysterious and supernatural? There's some kind of giant Harry Monster? Joseph Citroe, the author who started calling the area the Benken Triangle, told the Benken banner that the area is dangerous for a number of reasons, including this aura of spookiness that people bring with them when they go there. It's become a sort of self-reful film prophecy. Maybe if you're the adventurous type and you find yourself in the southwestern part of Vermont, you can take a trip into the Benken Triangle and see if you can find answers. So as we wrap this episode up more, my take on in this is that there

51:36is some truth, I think, to that idea of it being a self-fulfilling prophecy. Right? Once you start to give a place or an area, this air of mystery, well, then it's very likely that everything that happens around there or a lot of things that happen around there can kind of get lumped in. Yeah, I think there's a catch all that sort of you look at a specific area and you start saying, okay, well, this person disappeared here and this person, a different time disappeared here, this person died mysteriously there. I almost think that if it's an area, especially a wilderness type area where it's easy to get lost or hurt or injure yourself and nobody find you, that could explain a lot of things. I bet if you looked at several similar areas, you might find

52:38a variety of different things that have happened there. Yeah, that was my thought exactly. I think if you looked at any heavily wooded area, you could probably find very similar disappearances, but it's interesting, right, that this area has been given the moniker, the Bennington Triangle. And then, like I said, when things happen, it kind of gets swept up under that moniker. These are definitely still mysteries too, as long as we don't know the answers and they're unexplained, they still will interest people. And after all this time, it seems like they'll probably never be solved. Yeah, I'm with you on that. They're mysteries, but are they quite as mysterious as some people make them out to be? And my take on it is, I actually kind of doubt it. I think there are at least for many of these, there are probably very benign explanations,

53:44whether that's a tragic fall or a medical issue. And then given the fact that we're in dense woods here, is it all that strange that the person just was never found? There's a lot of animals, there's inclement weather. When you weigh the things that are more likely to happen out there versus some things that are a lot less likely to happen, it seems like those are bound to be more the likely answers. Unfortunately, we may never find out. Yeah, to me, given how old a lot of these mysteries are, I don't think we will ever find out about many of them. But that's it for our episode on the Bennington Triangle. As always, if you love the show, but haven't done so yet, take a minute, go out, leave us a review, leave a rating, also keep telling your friends. Word of mouth about the podcast really helps us out. If you want to find us on social media,

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