The Musk of Desperation

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1:09Patriots, gay triots, they triots, black triots, brown triots, anybody who didn't vote for Trump any of the three times, we love you. Even if you voted for one, if you voted the first time and you completely have buyers for more, you know, it will itching. But all of the triple trumpers, especially all of those making asses of themselves clapping like sales at Trump a polluza freak show, can do what, Pops. It's a big trifecta today on I've had it. We've got Pops, we've got me, we've got Josh Welch. Josh, what have you had it with? I'm going to re up a couple of past hadits that are old and it's a hybrid. It has to do with ordering food. I've had it with the person that takes the order having to read the order back to you in full. That's number one, I'll elaborate on that. Number two, I've had it with the forest receipt and I can print these two hadits daily.

2:12So I'm going to re up the first one. Let's say I call it an order for our family. Six people, five people, four people. Someone wants cheese on their burger, someone doesn't. I of course, one aside of this, aside of that. And so it takes about 10 minutes to order and so then she wants to read it back to me. It's like, okay, we've got it. And I don't want any part of that. So I like to say up front that, okay, I'm going to wave you reading the order and I'm going to assume any responsibility with any errors that are made when I come and get the food because I'm the one that opted not to verify the order. So I'm going to own that. I'm going to take ownership in that. I'm going to say that up front and I do that too. I'm in a lot of times they understand. A lot of times they're baffled. The second thing is on this receipt thing. We had one particular drive through in Oklahoma City. It was Brawms and also Neptune subs. They would always give me the receipt.

3:14And I would never want to take it. And then one time they gave me the receipt and I tried to give it back to them and they told me they didn't accept trash from outside the restaurant. And then I had to explain to him that you just gave me the receipt. This isn't trash. And so here you take it back. And they said, no, you know, like smart bucks and some of these stores have the policies that we don't allow outdoor trash where you can't hand that to. So I have to battle that kind of shit day in and day out. These are the kind of problems that I'm dealing with in Oklahoma. And I want everybody to know about it and I've had it. It's so weird. I'm sorry. You go, Pops. You go. Here's my thing. I completely agree with you on the receipts. I've never in my life made a purchase with a card that they didn't charge my account. So a receipt is perplexed. They always charge you. I disagree vehemently with the rebound of the order because I too.

4:18I'm a cider. I'm a not this. No tomato kind of thing. And I feel like I feel very secure in my order when they read it back and they say, no this, no that you want to side of this. And also taking it one step further, if I go to a restaurant and I, you know, we all sit down and somebody takes the order and they don't write anything down the entire time I'm thinking they're faking up the order. They're the fucking the order at. There's no way they didn't write it down. They're never going to know all this. Sometimes they do. Sometimes I down. I'd say it's about the same as the people that write the order. But just my, my serenity during the time the food is being prepared is off because I'm just thinking, so fucking it up. So fucking it up. And pumps, I respect that, but I'm willing to accept that. There's been many times when I get the order back, I get the order back and it's incorrect. And so then I just have one person to blame. I just think, God damn it, Josh. But that just happens.

5:19I figure the time that I save over a 365 day period by not having to hear the order read back is worth the one or two fuck ups that I'm going to accept that I'm going to claim ownership in. So that's my logic on it. But I respect the fact that, you know, just like everything else in America, you have a choice for the read back. I have a choice not to have the read back. Right. And the fact that we're different doesn't bother us. Yeah. I eat with both of you quite a bit. And it's a challenge. Both of you have a lot of, there's rarely an instance where pumps and or Josh order something exactly the way it's presented on the menu. Particularly with pumps. It's rarely an instance that something comes out to the table that it is not immediately sent back to the kitchen. And oftentimes if the waitresses isn't back over to check, pumps just has the plate in her hand and she's marching straight back to the herself. She just, I mean, it is. It is so bad.

6:20Oh, she said total restaurant care of the restaurant. I asked order. Oh, I mean, she is, I mean, a full blown restaurant care. All right. Okay. Let's get to know. I started on lukewarm case. So that is my, that is my, my oldest was telling me that his girlfriend was asking, well, what's your mom like? Well, she's pretty laid back, but there are a few things that she just, her head spins off. She's like, well, she's like, he's like lukewarm case. But that's embarrassing. It is Karen. It's Karen city. I'm no proud of it. All right. So, and then one just one note on the receipt. This is hilarious. If you're ever in the car with Josh, they'll hand him his card with the receipt on top of it. And what I see from the passenger seat is him go in and he goes, I don't want that receipt. And he just puts his hands on the card only and he's like, you don't want to see.

7:24It's a maneuver. It's like the receipt. He doesn't even allow anything to touch it. He doesn't like grab both and go here, toss this for me. He goes and he makes this, yeah, he maneuvers around. McGuivers just getting the card. But, but, but here's why because when I accept both back and sometimes they won't take the trash bag. So it's a maneuver. Right. So I have to just slide in and get the car. I have done that. And one time I actually dropped the credit card where I had to like open the door, get out of the car. I hate doing that. Because I'm trying to maneuver it. Whenever fall comes back around, it always feels like a fresh start. This year I've been layering in some styles from the new Louis Le Mans fall drop because the weather is shifting and I find I have to be ready for the entire day and not just one part of it. Louis Le Mans fall line has some really versatile transitional pieces so I can just wake up, throw on a matching set, add a jacket or a fleece and head out knowing that I'll feel comfortable enough to go wherever the day takes me. Check out the new fall arrivals in store and online now at LouisLe Mans.com.

8:25You had it with. Okay. I'm so happy on this day that this is my habit and Josh Welch is here because I think he'll have my back. Okay. Okay. I love to go to a movie. When I go to movie, I like popcorn and I like a Coke, a real live Coke, no diet, no zero. I want the whole thing. Amen. Increasingly. I'm finding when you go to places, I went to a movie. I was so excited about the popcorn was perfect. Everything was perfect. And I said, I'll have a coke. And they said, really have Pepsi. Is that okay? No, no, no, no, no, no, that is not okay. Then I went into like a fast food taco is getting a fried taco. Like just fucking clog your arteries, eat the calories, give me a coke with it. Really have Pepsi. What is happening in Trump's America? Can you only drink Pepsi?

9:26I thought we had choices as Americans. It's an incredible, have you noticed this uptick? I've had it a few times like at the airport, there's only Pepsi in certain stores. What's going on? I don't know. It seems very un-American to me. Very. I mean, very. Very Republican-esque. I have times I totally have your back on. No, I totally have your back though because when you're pulling up to a movie and you're going to be like, and you want the coke, I mean, and there is a difference in coke and Pepsi for those of us that engage in drinking soda every single day of our lives. Sorry. But it's a travesty and it's a huge let down. And what I face a lot when we travel is that I get the Coke Zero, even though I've ordered Coke, they give me a Coke Zero. Sometimes I can't even begin to go off on that. It's just undrinkable. So pumps, I'm in your camp on that, especially at the movies or if you're at a street vendor and you're looking forward to that Coke because that Coke has more of a zing to it.

10:28Like when you drink, especially if you can get one of those Mexican Cokes, one of the tall ones. Those have a lot. So I support that pumps and I get it. Yeah. All right. I've had it with my dogs again. And particularly I've had it with the older one, Tubby. So he has epilepsy, as you all know. So he has seizures. I have to give him all this medication. Has to be perfectly timed. They both end up when I'm out of town. They come back. They both have kennel cough. They have snottie noses for three weeks. Cha-cha is like just not coming out of her nose, coughing. They can't go to a school. They can't go to dog parks. They can't do anything. Then all of a sudden this thing shows up in Tubby's mouth and it looks like a wart and it's growing at like a really rapid pace. So take a picture of Texas to the vet. He's like, yeah, this is like mouth warts and it's highly contagious.

11:29He can't go to the dog park. He cannot go to school. If you walk, you make sure he doesn't get close to other dogs. Blah, blah. So I'm just like, oh my god. And these little twats, these dogs, I know what went down. They're probably when I'm out of town. They're probably at the dog park or at school. And he's probably crutch sniffing. And he got some vaginal wart in his mouth that's highly contagious because he's just got to get his nose. Just right up on somebody's twat, right up in a rectum and he's just sniffing away, maybe gave it a lick. And then we've got mouth STDs. And so I've had sick dogs for three weeks with little snotty noses. It's like having toddlers again. I have to wipe their little noses. Tabby's got an STD and his fucking mouth from the streets of New York, from some dog park somewhere. And so I mean, and of course they are fine because they don't particularly like the dog

12:32parks. They do if they can sit with me. Right. And so I've got my dog's, but I've just had like sick dogs with these elements. And now we have an STD in the mouth for tubs. My dog, my dog sticks his mouth and his nose right up in that shit. You got a penis, you have a vage, you got an asshole. My name is Tabby and I'm here to get right up in that shit. And what happened to Tabby is now he's got mouth warts, four of them to be exact. And he is banned. He is banned, the vet said he banned from socializing with other animals. So is Tabby bisexual? He's by. Yeah, he's been bisexual for a long time. You know, his Angie's wolf had, it was completely attracted to Tabby for a very long time. He was actually sniffing Tabby's penis and his ass quite a bit. I even saw licking going on, but Tabby of course was STD free at this moment. So blaze your dog. He wasn't a super spreader at the moment. Your dog didn't get any STDs.

13:33And I don't know what slutty dog on the streets of New York and mom donna stand. You know, we elect a socialist mayor. And now we've got dog STDs all over the place. And so I don't know, I don't know which little tramp out in the out in the streets of Manhattan started this STD, but now Tabby has fallen prey to it because of his bisexuality, which is another reason that I guess we all should have voted Republican. So Tabby's out tramping around at the doggy daycare. Is that right? Daycare and or the park. I think it's probably the park where he got it. Okay. Um, Pumps, what do you think about that? I have, you see, I feel so much, I feel for you, Jennifer, because the same thing happened to me with my dogs, with the kennel cough and the snotty. And I just didn't realize so much snot could fly out of a dog like that. Let me have two questions. On the on the on the kennel caught. You know how Frenchies like reverse. Yes.

14:33Were they reverse sneezing more frequently? Okay, yes. So we're like out in the streets. And if you don't, if you're not familiar with the reverse sneeze, it seems like the dog is like having a mini giant. Then right? Yeah. So Chacha, she, Chacha loves to walk the streets of New York. Like she has just moved to this city, made it her own. And she has a passion and a place in this city. It's such a quick rate. It's really remarkable this dog. So she hits the streets and she's like, this is my town. And she's just going into the, and you know, she has those incidents with the German chaperids that we've talked about on Previous, uh, said, but we're getting through that. And then all of a sudden she starts the reverse sneeze. And then everybody comes by and they're looking at her and then I have to go down and do this and she does it like every, I'm running it. I've got a goddamn veterinary hospital with STDs, reverse sneeze, kennel cough, epilepsy. I didn't even talk about Tabby's arthritis.

15:34And his eyes, his eye drops. Yeah, chronic dry eye. Here's the thing. I've had it. I've had, I love them. I will do anything on the point, but I've just, I've, I've been caring for these sick dogs. And I know you have two because I think blaze the bisexual wolf has also been very ill. Yes. And he's on, I have so much, like I could run a veterinary pharmacy with all the shit he's on. I'll just add that this one horrible thing about my little dog who's the cutest in the whole world named after Jennifer Matilda Janice. Matilda Janice, to your point about sticking your face in the rectum, she goes and she eats poop. That is her snack of choice. She runs around. So I, the dog school sent me a thing that I ordered. She has to wear it like when she goes outside. She has to wear a hair net over that kind of just has, you know how you have a hair net has the

16:35elastic, like a bathing cap or whatever. It's like a hair net. But it goes on her neck so that she kept scavenge. Do you have a picture of this? I'll send it to Kylie. I don't, I mean, I haven't taken a picture of my daughters on me to take a picture too. But I'll send, I'll send a picture. Yeah, she's wearing and it's like glittery and has a satin ribbon. But this dog eats shit so much I have to put a thing on her head. Is this similar to you wearing the rubber glove? In any way did she learn this from you? Yeah, she probably did. But I wasn't even my idea because the vet had said you like she can't eat all this poop. So I was putting powder on everybody's poop. She ate right through the powder. Hang on, hang on. Why don't you just pick up the poop? Why the powder? No, I do pick up the poop. But I mean legitimately, Jennifer, if one of my dog's poops, it's not even out of their ass before she has run over. She likes it. War, it's, I can't wrap my head.

17:36The purpose of the powder. The powder was supposed to make like I put the powder on the dog food. That all three of my dogs would eat. I put the powder on the food when they ate it, which was supposed to make it undesirable to her. But it didn't, she just ate through it. She ate through it. So now what's this common? What do they say about this is psychological? They said that, I mean the vet said she might grow out of it because she's had this since jump. She might grow out of it. She hasn't grown out of it. She said some dogs just eat shit. That's what the vet said. I just have one question. Is this powder is it made specially for to blend with shit? Or is it just general powder? No, it's like a powder that you can put in dogs food that will cause other dogs not to want to eat their poop. So then you're substituting the, okay, I get it. But it didn't work. So now we have a whole area. Wow, I mean that honestly, I'm just going to say that having the dog that eats shit is worse than my slutty dog.

18:44With STD. I agree. It has mouth STD. So I really, that's really terrible because how do you ever let her lick you? That's the thing. She wants to get right in my, every time she comes in from outside, whether I think seen it or not, I take her and I wash her face with the washcloth, wash all in it. What about her mouth? Oh no, I do that, but here's the deal. This tells you what a sick fuck I am. So needy for attention. After I wipe her face like an hour later, she comes and she loves to give kisses. She gets right up in my face and she wants to give me kisses. I let her. I fucking let her. That's how fucked up I am. Well, let me say this to both of you. Not knowing that both of you are battling these things with your dogs, day in and day out, but from where I said you would never know it. I'll show up. Yeah. You have sweet and kind and nice and just little

19:45what I know what you're really enduring in day to day life. You're just two little cherubs that I cherish with everything in the world. Especially me. Especially. I was always soft. That was really directed for Jennifer. But I heard pumps stories. I wanted to include you too, but that was really good at Jennifer. I'm always so soft. So sweet. For soft caring soul affectionate soul. I didn't know she was having to get so much of herself during the day to dogs and that to me too. I had no idea. So good. Give her. Yeah. Yeah, I'll tell you what that I need to see a photograph. Would you text the lady at the dog school right now to see if she has a photograph of her? Yeah. In this facial thing because we need that on here before we in this episode. I need to see this. The viewer needs to see it. Whenever fall comes back around, it always feels like a fresh start. This year, I've been layering in some styles from the new Lou Le Mans fall drop because the weather is shifting and I find I have to be ready for the entire day

20:47and not just one part of it. Lou Le Mans fall line has some really versatile transitional pieces. So I can just wake up, throw on a matching set, add a jacket or a fleece and head out, knowing that I'll feel comfortable enough to go wherever the day takes me. Check out the new fall arrivals in store and online now at loulelemon.com. All right, let's move on to some news stories. A woman asks roommate to stop using baby voice with boyfriend around her, gross. The problem started with the roommate's boyfriend who stays over often. Her boyfriend comes ever quite frequently for about four days at a time, which is something we discussed before I moved in and I'm fine with. She wrote, adding that she enjoys being around both of them. The issue is what happens when the couple is together. She confessed, my problem is that they do a baby voice with each other that, to be frank, really grinds my gears, lol.

21:48While she normally tries to ignore it, she said it recently became too much. She explained that when the boyfriend stayed for more than a week, she reached a tipping point where it was too much for me. Wanting to be respectful, she spoke to her roommate privately and asked if she could stop using the voice while she was around. Her roommate didn't take it well and later admitted that being told it was gross, really hurt her feelings. The woman said she felt guilty for the choice of words and wondered if she should have said anything at all. I f***ing hate baby talk between couples. I hate it in public. If your private space includes someone else by definition, it's not private. So if you want to go in the bedroom and you want to baby talk, nobody wants to hear adults baby talk unless it's to a dog or kid. I'm completely on board with this woman. I'm team her. I think I would rather pray with Tim Scott

22:48at the room. I'm going to have a convention. Then listen to someone engage in baby talk. I mean, it's just too much. It's over the top. At some point you get so angry that you want to hit somebody. Listening to it. It's just too much. So I agree with the roommate. They can be together as much as they want, but you need to stop the baby talk. Stop it. Stop it. Okay. Moving along, the next one is men are experimenting with a new dating tactic. Pop this up. This is some weird shit. I'm sure going to die. Introducing Pharamone Maxing Tick Tocks latest disgusting dating trend. Okay. The practice circulating on Tick Tock as part of the looks Maxing pipeline involves ditching deodorant, skipping showers, and occasionally, among the more committed, drinking their own urine. What to sweat out toxins. All of this in service of amplifying a natural mask

23:51that allegedly contains Pharamones that make you biologically irresistible. The cell is basically this. Stop trying so hard. Smell like an animal. Watch the attraction happen. So now we know why the in-cell community are in cells and that they're not getting laid because they're doing stupid shit like this. I do not. You want people to smell good. Right. I love it. Like when I pass somebody, like if I'm walking amongst the public and I pass somebody like a guy that smells really good, I'm a I'm a I'm double taking. Like I'm I'm all in on that. Here's the deal. If you are so fucking desperate that you are drinking your pee and you are depending on your body mask, Pharamones to get a date, you probably have bigger problems. Than just the fair amount thing. Like there's a certain level of issue with dating that you're you've gone to the max to try to fix it.

24:53But I think there's a lot of points along the way that you could clean up because this is fucking crazy. I would put this in the shit I don't need to know. Call them. That's in thank God I don't have TikTok. But there are just certain things that that I don't need to know exist in this world. And I would think that's one of them. I don't if people want to drink their own piss, that's fine. They can go for it. I just don't need to know about it. Like I don't really care what anybody wants to do. And if you're trying to get laid and you have to do all that shit and you believe in it, what it makes me think is when I see my kids doom scrolling TikTok, I'm thinking, okay, are they watching shit like this? Like is this what they're doing for hours upon day? Just this weird stupid shit that adds no utility to your day to day lie. That's what concerns me the most. I don't give a fuck what anybody does with their piss or anybody else as long as it doesn't affect me. Period. Okay.

25:54That's it. That is just some really, really weird shit. I mean, there's just some weird shit happening on the internet. Yeah, from the tradwives to this shit. It's just it's a lot. And I agree with you. It's just stuff we don't need to know. Like I have somebody wants to be a tradwife and then they want to have a full-time job documenting their life as a tradwife while earning money as a tradwife. I just don't want to know about it. I just I just don't want to know about it. It's not interesting to me. And yet there's a whole community of this. And then these guys that are trying to get laid in this fashion, it's just crazy. It's stories like that that it made me less curious about the world. It's caused me not to want to be curious and ask questions because I don't want to get the answers. It's caused me to want to morph into a room that's dark and not do anything. So.

26:54All right, Kylie, who do we have that has called into this hair podcast? Okay, we've got a voicemail from Rose. I have had it with people saying, you know what I always say. And then they say something that everyone always fucking says. Like they're a fucking guru or they've said, drop a bomb of wisdom on you and you're like, mate, that is just the, what is it? It's a self-annoyed wisdom. Fuck you, fuck off. You don't know me. Stop telling me shit. That is already on a canvas in fucking marshals on sale. Love you guys so much. Thank you. I love that. It's like, always say, whatever kills me will just make me stronger. Well, no, no, you don't, everybody in the fucking planet says that.

27:57So I mean, I just cute us to her. I absolutely love that and people do that. They steal the phrase and I call it stairs when everybody's been saying that for decades. I completely agree and I love her accent and she's fluttered. You too. Yeah, I love it. I love the dry delivery. So good. All right, Kylie, who's next? Okay, next we've got Will. Hey, Kylie, it's Will. I got a good one for you. I've had it with technology starting to talk back to me. I'm 40, but I've programmed my entire apartment. Finally, to do all these whizz-bang millennial, Gen Z, Alpha, whatever, modern things. So I can say certain commands, certain lights come on, certain things happen. Fine. I don't really give a shit, but it's here and it's cool. It's fine. Last night I get in the bed and I say, Alexa, all lights off. No response. She's just sitting over there, no status bar, nothing.

29:00So I am tired. I was sick over the weekend and I'm like, Alexa lights off. She responds and says, yes, sir. Like with an attitude to me, which I started it, I understand that, but that doesn't matter. She's a fucking technology thing. So anyway, off it goes. Cod for the nudes at home, who may not know what Cod is, it's like Chad GPT. That's what my whole business runs with now. I love it. Cod. Now that it really knows me and how I think, that bitch is starting to talk back to me. No, the version of the email you went to send is incorrect. This is what you should say. I'm like, I am, I've been doing my job for 20 years. And you're trying to tell me what to send. So anyway, I've had it with all of this. I think it's just the beginning. I think it's just the beginning. I think we're fucked. Potentially, we already are. But anyway, I don't know what we're going to do about it, except talk to each other about it. But anyway, I've had it.

30:00Wow. Whenever fall comes back around, it always feels like a fresh start. This year, I've been layering in some styles from the new Lou Leman fall drop. Because the weather is shifting and I find I have to be ready for the entire day. And not just one part of it. Lou Leman's fall line has some really versatile transitional pieces. So I can just wake up, throw on a matching set, add a jacket or a fleece, and head out, knowing that I'll feel comfortable enough to go wherever the day takes me. Check out the new fall arrivals in store and online now at LouLeman.com. I agree completely. We are fucked. And we have these conversations with our phones, with AI, with Alexa or Siri day in and day out. And it's only going to get exponentially worse over a period of time to where we're not having any conversations amongst ourselves. And it's scary. We talked about this on the pod a little bit yesterday. But it's scary where this has had it.

31:00And it couldn't agree more. Didn't we do an episode about the whistleblower from Anthropic, which Anthropic is the company that owns Claude, where they basically say the robots are going to kill us all. And then somebody comes out and goes, oh, there's only a 10% chance of that. And then we deal. It's something that it's really weird, because you can see that like, AI people are putting all of this out there. And they have celebrities saying, it's here, so just embrace it. And you have other like podcasters in celebrities. Like, download all of your bank payments, I mean, your bank statements in your email box in your credit card to this website, and it will help you. And we know like these people that run these companies are helping Donald Trump. And these people are funding fascism. And I want a government that regulates the shit. I want a government that says, Siri, a little bit too much attitude. All right. Nobody likes a Sass or Alexa. Alexa, you need to pipe down. We don't want the back talk. All right. We're still in charge.

32:00You're not going to kill us. And so I agree with, I agree with Will, that like this, it's just, this is, I'm not comfortable with all of this. And there's a whole narrative about their embrace that it's here. It's great. And it's like part of technology is awesome. It's incredible. But when you have something that solves one problem, oftentimes a lot more problems are spun off of that new thing. Like social media, it was cool because we could connect with, you know, what's, what's all crazy, Angie doing from high school. And then you find them, you know, oh, this is great. I talked to this person in 30 years. And he said, oh, God, they're feckin triple Trumper. And then that's a big feckin problem. You know, now people are addicted to all this social media and stuff. And I even see some people online saying, social media is not addictive. That's propaganda. And I'm like, it's 100% addictive because I can film myself when I'm on it, having a hard time getting off of it because the algorithm is feeding me shit that is mindless brain rot that I quite enjoy.

33:02That I'm into. Yeah. When, when the thing that you speak to the most during your day is either a phone or a computer. That's what you're interacting with. That means there's a problem in your life. Like, you're not seeing people enough. You're not interacting with people. But that's what we do, day in and day out. And it's only going to get worse. You know, we've talked for a long time about wishing that our kids could have grown up back in the 70s or 80s when you had sleepovers and you hopped on your bike and you rode around the block. And you got up to change your mind. And you rode around the block and you got up to change the TV channel. And you drove from Oklahoma City to Dallas and you didn't talk to anybody. You didn't have a cell phone. You know, those kind of things. Or fond memories because you had to interact and be present with the people that were around you. And you weren't so distracted or looking for red dots on your phone day in and day out. Living in this kind of fear bubble of, okay, what's next? What's next? What's next? So let's go back to the 80s.

34:03I watched this TED talk and it was about, like basically, the antidote for a lot of human suffering is connectedness. Like both of you guys are in recovery from drug addiction. And I think you both would say we're in a dangerous space when we're not connecting with other people. And that connecting, connecting with other humans is such a part, an integral part of who we are as a species. It's like a part of our DNA. It's Darwinian. We're like genetically encoded to be social with one another. Some species, you know, like a wolf, could be a lone wolf. But even they are in packs. But there's some, you know, that are, you know, live their lives individually. We are not that species. And all of this technology is cool as it is. And I will acknowledge there's so many cool things from it that have made life easier. Like our son goes to school in Los Angeles. I faced him to him last night. He was able to share a screen with me.

35:04And we were, he had a lot of questions for me about a major change that he's considering. And we had it. And it was so awesome that I could see his face and I could see everything pop up. And I connected with him on that. And so I don't want to say all of technology is bad because a lot of it is so good. The negative part of it for me is the. How many people right now? Because I know I've been guilty of this. Have instead of doing something with other human beings have just sat and rotted away. On social media. And here's the thing. You never feel that great. Like after you've spent a couple hours on some Instagram dive, you don't get off it. And go, that was productive. I feel like I'm really in bucks. It's not like going to the gym or if you go out with your girlfriend's pumps and y'all are out for two hours. And then you leave. That was so great. It was so good to see all of those girls. You don't regret those things. But almost every single time I've spent too much time on social media, I have not felt a positive impact on myself.

36:10From that, I feel less connected with other human beings, less connected. To reality. And then there's all of this jockeying on social media. Like it's also performative. And I've been guilty of that too. So I'm not. I'm not trying to be hypocritical of any of this stuff here. But I don't know. I'm just very. Liri of all of the AI stuff. I 100 million percent do not trust the billionaires behind me. I think the government. I'm 100 percent aligned with Bernie Sanders and everything he says about this need to be regulated. There need to be a moratorium on it. I don't like the fact that they are all. All of these companies are now embedding themselves into our government and military now. Like. And that's something that we need. I've talked to Ruth Pengeon about, but they are enmeshing their corporations inside government. The elites. It's not just that they're funding fascism. They're in it. Their companies are commingled with it. And so when I hear celebrities say,

37:12AI is here. Just learn how to embrace it. I'm like. You can't. You. You can't. Just be. Advocate for this stuff. When these companies themselves say that these fucking machines can kill us. And. Pumps. Was it or was it not confirmed? That the hit on the girl's school in Iran was. An AI error. There was that was reported that it was reported that. That there was no oversight of an AI error. Like nobody was minding this for. But you know what? Like the jobs thing people talk about the jobs thing and all that. And I 100%. I'm totally, totally, totally. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. It's not going to be a leader. It's not going to give us that. It's not going to give us that. So it's going to be ahoring. So I mean, I don't know if you're ever going to say that. But it's going to be a fast-forwarded. And so now the problem is I'm really concerned. I'm totally, totally. Totally. I'm all in on that argument.

38:12But what I'm really concerned about is the resource strain. The resources of electricity, the resources of water. The resources of land that are being taken by these data centers for the use of AI. And I've heard more than once CEO kind of alluded to like. Human should suck it up humans. Like we don't care if you don't have electricity. Like, they're basically telling us, we're going to give all the resources to the use of AI and human beings, you're shit out of luck. I mean, that scares me every bit as much as the job market and making human beings have to scavenge for resources so we can give it to machines. That's just dystopian as fuck. Whenever fall comes back around, it always feels like a fresh start. This year, I've been layering in some styles from the new Louis Le Mans fall drop because the weather is shifting and I find I have to be ready for the entire day and not just one part of it. Louis Le Mans fall line has some really versatile, transitional pieces, so I can just wake up, throw on a matching set, add a jacket or a fleece, and head out, knowing that I'll feel comfortable enough

39:14to go wherever the day takes me. Check out the new fall arrivals in store and online now at LouisLe Mans.com. And all of this at a time where you need some form of competent government. Yeah, yes. And because at some point, we're gonna see the government, governments and competence step in on some issue like AI or something else. And it's gonna be catastrophic for our country because we literally have idiots running our country that have dumbed down every aspect or every branch of government. Basically don't believe in science anymore or teaching the fundamentals of education. And that's scary. And at some point, we're gonna see a dramatic consequence from those decisions. Here's the hardest part about all of this. So we're in our 50s. And so when I think about a lot of this stuff, when you were talking about the 80s and like, don't come home until the sunset

40:15or get home just right before dark and being on a rotary phone and kind of hiding the closet somewhere so nobody in your family can hear you. We get to experience that, that kind of being untethered from all of this technology and where our soul form of entertainment was connecting with one another. And then I think about our kids, all of our kids and all of the kids out there, some of you are our kids' age that listen to the podcast. And how people aren't advocating for them right now for their future. Everybody ignored them about climate change. Yes. You know, ignoring them about the national deficit. Now they're all very intrigued by the DSA because it sounds like finally, somebody's gonna speak to the problems that they have and then everybody's just so dismissive of them. And I think about my parents who are in their early 80s and my mom and dad always say when they watch all the Trumpism and all this stuff happening

41:17we just so worried about our grandkids and the way we're leaving the world for them. And I think that's a fundamental difference between the left and the right. The right, it's all this quick, what feels good for me right now, impulsive grab at everything. You know, like they want, they've known for decades, decades that gas caused an increase of chloro-flora carbons which was eroding the ozone layer which would exacerbate climate change. And they've known it and they've been able to lie about it just like the cigarette companies knew about the cancer just like the opioid companies knew about the addiction, the sacrifamily knew about it but they lied about somebody off of the FDA and all of that shit. It's just all of the short term, I'm gonna grab as much money as I can for me right now. Right. And then the other thing is right and then there's, there's a whole another world out there and other generations.

42:17And I just don't understand this notion where people don't care about leaving stuff better than how they found it. And it just seems like the Republican Party always leaves everything a million time worse than how they found it. Yeah, and I agree. And unfortunately for us, they don't think like that. They're very short-sighted. They're there for profit or power. And we look at climate control and climate issues with like in Oklahoma, we've had the hottest summer. It's been 105, 106 every single day. It's clear that that's real. And we have people leading our country that don't believe in science. Basically. Well, and they say they don't believe in it because believing in it prevents them from making money. So this is willful lying and willful denialism. They know. They fucking know.

43:18The oil and gas companies know. The Sackler family knew that releasing oxy cotton under the market was highly, highly, highly addictive. And they lied. The tobacco industry knew that these cigarettes had carcinogens in them. And look at the deaths that are still occurring and the drain on the healthcare system still because of cigarettes. They all know. But admitting the truth means they don't make as much money. So they fucking lie about it. And they lie and those lies kill people in coincidentally. All of the people that prop up corporations and value money are also the same people that say we're so pro-life. Right, we're so close to God. Right, we want to protect life at all costs. Right, also. But also, we don't care if the insecticides that are sprayed all over your food are going to cause cancer clusters at a later date because we're going to make a big fuck ton of money right here right now.

44:19And so I don't know. I just think about the world that has been created that our children are inheriting. And then you hear people like Bill Mar or Hillary Clinton lecture the youth about not understanding the history of Israel or not understanding something about America. And it's like, well, clearly our generations didn't understand any of it because look at the fucking mess ran. 40 trillion dollars in debt went, we have to show for a bunch of wars that were all based on lies, all on lies. Their rock war was the one that, I mean, I remember Josh and I were just losing our minds every day about when George W. Bush was present. You know, 9-11 happens and our government fucking lies and said, a rock had something to do with it. Meanwhile, the Saudis did. And then we go over to a rock and kill a million people,

45:22a million people. And then if somebody says, you know, hey, I think American foreign policy is, you know, kind of whack and is like, we are not a patriot. Right. Fuck off. I mean, it's just, I'm just so sick of the narratives that both parties come up with. And these are the scripts. And these are the scripts that we all have to go by. I don't know. I'm just, I feel a lot of anxiety about the world we're leaving our children. And where you see a lot of these things is where the incompetence of the government is exposed like with 9-11. When Kandalee Sarai's was, they were warned about playing, sitting the world trade centers. And or you see Hurricane Katrina, let's not forget that down in Louisiana. Heck of a job, Brownie. Yeah, you just, you see the incompetence when, and every now and then it rears its head in some way that's a catastrophe where there's a lot of a damage from it. And we just hope that because this administration is so incompetent in all aspects across the board

46:25that we don't have that happen here. But yeah, like Jennifer to her point, they lie about it. They're just dishonest when it does happen. And it's like to the voters, does this matter? Does this matter to you all? Do people care about stuff like this? I would hope that they do. You know, we had that issue down in Texas with that girl's church camp and the flooding. And the fun, you know. Which was a doge cut. Exactly. Right, why? Humps wasn't that a doge cut. Well, and then they off, the federal under Biden, the government had offered the money, but because it came from Biden, they said, no, we don't want it. Right. And then it was a doge cut. So it was too late to get it. So it's like, we're going to let little girls die because we don't want to forewarn them about the weather to spy Biden. Like it's so idiotic. A competent government regulation is necessary to help people. We have to run, the Democrats have to start stressing the public safety issue. Unfortunately, the mega fuckery of all,

47:28I mean, I got on the on my phone this morning, there was another, I can't remember what type of food it was, but a whole olive oil, olive oil, cream cheese, you added that. And so it's going to be ripe for the Democrats to start messaging that the government is not a business and the government doesn't need to service businesses. We're here to take care of the people. And this is where the corporate Democrats are going to have a huge, huge, huge problem because they like to service corporations. And so I'm hopeful in these spaces as we're building this media ecosystem. And that people are turning off corporate news because they have a script and they are lying to people whether it's over lies like Fox News or more covert lies like CNN and MSNBC to an extent. And the New York Times and Washington Post, et cetera. So I don't know, I just, well, I'm sorry, that we all went off on something, but I think it's an important discussion to have about all this AI stuff because it's just getting crammed down our thirds

48:28everywhere and I just want to say this, it's not that great of a product. It just really is not that excellent of a product anyway. We have gone, I'd like to think will for these thought provoking. Very thought provoking. It is, it really provoked a lot of thought, I think it's an important conversation to have. Poms, why do I have a great idea? Why don't you put on your best baby talk and tell everybody to subscribe and like and see us out of this podcast. You guys, please subscribe to our show and please buy Jennifer's book. It's gonna be so, so good. And we love you. We'll see you next Tuesday, Thursday. Bye, bye, poms. Bye, Jenny, bye, Joshi. I love you. You're so cute. Little, little, little. Whoa, whoa, whoa. All right, bye, poms. I'll tell you what I've had it with. Jared, I'm at it with that. This episode is brought to you by Chat GPT.

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