The Scott Satterfield Show -- 9/1/26

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4:26A very pleasant evening, everybody. Greetings from the original Montgomery Inn, home of the world's greatest ribs. Welcome to the Scott Satterfield radio show. I know you can hear me on the radio here at the inn. Maybe not quite yet, but Joe's working on it. We'll get the speakers working. There we go. All right, Joe, much appreciated. Great to see Bearcat fans with us here tonight. Here we go. Another season gets underway. But you see Bearcats as they take on Boston College at Nippert Stadium. This Saturday at 3.30, coach great to be back with you. You know, there's always a lot of unknowns in week one, but now in college football, it's more than ever. Every team probably has at least 40 new guys. But what are the knowns? What are you really excited about? What do you know about your team that's going to be a strength? Yeah, you're exactly right. First start of the year, everybody's got, I would say, 50 new players, probably for most, when you think about freshman and transfers that coming in.

5:26You know, I think the knowns are certainly, we've got a few of the guys that are here tonight. You know, offensive line, we've talked about those guys all all season. We were head to one of the better offensive lines in the country last year. And the nucleus of that is back this year. And so they've been great leaders for us throughout the whole off season. Guys like Antoine Peak, Jonathan Thompson on defense are known. You know, those guys have made a lot of plays for us over the years. You know, and then, you know, there's some young guys that have been on our program that we feel like we got a pretty good idea about what they can do. You know, Sion's are running back. Those are true freshmen last year. We feel like he's going to be even better this year. So you like some of the guys that have played in the past, you feel good about them. Grover tied in, you know, time for him to step up and become, you know, what we all think he can do. And so, you know, yeah, then we've got some young guys. And then of course, we got some transfers, you know, and so, and a lot of these transfers have produced at the college level. They've played at a, you know, really good football. They just haven't done it for us yet, you know. And so until the lights come on, you know, or until the sun comes out of 3 30 on Saturday, hopefully, then we'll see what they do

6:29in their perspective. Sun out, hopefully, hopefully, temperature down. And a little bit. It was smoking hot out there today. The hottest day of the year that we've had. We've had it a long time, I think. Yeah, well, but it's good for us. I was going to say might not be quite that hot. That's right. In Boston, maybe your opponent this week will have to deal with something that they're not ready for. I had the good fortune of joining you and some of your players at Big 12 Media Days in Frisco, Texas. I talked to a prominent national college football reporter about your offensive line. He said in this day and age, a returning experienced and good offensive line is like a cheat code. Is that a good way of describing it? It probably is. You know, I think, well, one of the games that kicked off this past weekend was Virginia and NC State. And I looked at Virginia's offensive line. They had a seventh year player, a sixth year player, and three five year players on the offensive line. And they won. They beat State pretty good. You know, so I think, I think, yeah, certainly, if you can have some experienced guys that are good up front, I mean, that certainly obviously helps your football team.

7:30You feel like you can control the game a little bit better. Obviously, if you can run the football, protect your quarterback, make it clean in the backfield for those guys. It's going to help you, for sure. And then I think also, late in games, when you need to finish out games, you want to lean on your offensive line. So, when you have guys that have played for you, have great experience that are really good leaders. And you got to, that is one position that the most players play on. There's five guys that play every snap with the offensive line. There's no other position that's like that. And, you know, they have to play as one. They're right beside each other. So, you know, that's just a special group. Now, you guys will get into it a little bit when they get up here. But, yeah, if you can have one group that's ready to go, good experience, that are good players, that's the group. You have a new defensive coordinator this year. He's new to us. He's not new to you. Nate Woodie worked for you at Appalachian State for several years. He spent the last six at Army. Army said great defenses. Number one in the country. And one of those years, top 15, in three of his six years,

8:31give our folks here at the original Montgomery Inn and everybody listening on the radio just a sense of what Nate Woodie is all about. Well, I think first of all, he's, he's, he's, he's very experienced. He's been calling defenses, meaning, you know, on Saturdays having a call to do for 25 years. They've done a long time. And his defenses have always been good. He kind of got started at Wofford College of Small College in Spartanburg, South Carolina. And the reason he caught my eye back then because, you know, at State, we had better players. But every year, Wofford was always at the top of the conference. And I'm like, man, he's doing that with those kind of players. So when I got the head coaching job at AppState, I was like, let me, let me go higher this guy. So talk to him. And I thought it'd be a great fit. He came in and we ended up, you know, doing some great things in the sunbelt during, during that time. And he's just got a knack of, of knowing what defense to get in. And we can do a lot of different things. It's not a defense that you're just going to sit and do the same thing. Every single snap. This is a defense where we can, we can do a lot of different things. You can bring your corners. You can bring pressures with your safeties. All the linebackers, we are moving.

9:32We're twisting. We're angling. There's always something going on. So as you're watching the game, they just won't be sitting in the same spots every time. You're going to see a lot of different moving and a lot of different things. You know, a guy like Antoine Peaks, we've already talked a little bit in the old season about how we moved him down closer to the ball. He's going to be at the outside, you know, linebacker spot to the field with it. But he also can come off the edge. You can get in the back field. There's a lot of different things we can do with him. And I think in this defense, you're going to be able to see that. And the other thing that we have to do is chase the ball. And that's what Coach Woodie and his defensive staff talk about all the time. Is chasing the ball, chasing the ball. And in practice, that's what they're doing. And it's exciting to see how has all that pre-snap movement impacted your offense, practicing against it every day? Well, I think it's really been good for us because in this first game, we don't really know what we're getting. You know, I mean, we're, you know, playing BC, who Ted Roots, our defensive coordinator, who hasn't called defenses for a couple of years. So you had to go back and look at some old defenses. You know, but we don't really know what he's going to play. So we're getting ready for everything, you know, three down, four down, five down.

10:34I mean, all the different defenses that you can possibly run. And it's really going to help us because we've seen it all this camp. And, you know, particularly with our offensive line, they've had to adjust and go against all these different fronts. And so that's going to prepare for Saturday. I do think once you get into the game like this, there's going to be a little bit of, let's see what they're doing on both sides of the ball. You know, so I think that first quarter will be a little bit back and forth. Seeing what they're doing, they're going to see what we're doing. A little bit of cat and mouse going back and forth until we really settle into the game. You know, probably around a second quarter. You've got a new quarterback who comes from Georgia Southern, JC French the fourth started for the last two years there. Two winning seasons started 26 games. He started against USC, all miss in Boise State. So they played some big time competition. You played quarterback back in the day. How does this experience at that position help the entire team? Yeah, I mean, I think it's critical that you, you know, you got a guy that's actually played and played in tough games. He's been in tough environments.

11:34He's played some of the power teams at, you know, at the highest level. And he's had to do a lot of different things. I mean, he's a really good passer. He's had run the football. I think he scored seven touchdowns running the ball last year to Georgia Southern. So he ended up all-time leading passer. I mean, that says a lot about him right there. So I do think you're getting some experience. He's very mature. He's very poised. He's even killed. You know, so we're excited about JC. And I think, you know, he's still, you know, learning and putting the thing everything together, but he's had a really good August. The thing about it is he throws a catchable ball and he tries to complete the football. So we like that. So there's times, you know, where he won't force it down the field. He'll just dump it off down low. And hopefully that'll move the change and we'll, you know, try to go score the next down, you know. So I think, I think we like where he's at with it. You know, and obviously we're at it. He didn't have to do it all. That's the other thing. We, we got four quality running backs behind a really good offensive line. So he's got a lot of good players that are around him where he doesn't have to just feel like he's going to press and do everything. Let's talk about those running backs because last year you really had

12:37mostly a one-two punch. You're running back to how we walk. Or was the power guy? Evan prior was the fast guy. Now it's like a one-two-three-four punch. Yeah. You've got four guys on any given day at practice. One of these guys seems to have a great day. Tell us a little bit about your Bronn Payne, Zylin Perry, Zion Johnson, he's back from last year, and Cole Tapp and describe them a little bit because it's not just the power guy and a fast guy. No, it's not. They're all good. We, you know, some people list, you know, first, ring, second, third and fourth, but I mean, they're kind of one A, B, C, D. You know, they're all kind of right there. Like, if whoever's out there, I feel good about it. You know, so we'll see who ends up. You're getting out there. You know, we're leaning on G-Pain right now, but they're, at every day, they're competing. If a guy slips a little bit, the next one's going to be right there, but, but I think Payne is a, is a bigger back, you know, he came in from Notre Dame, where they just had two guys drafted in the first round off his team last year. And I really think he's got great vision. He runs low to the ground a little bit like a Corey Kiner type. I mean, he's a little bit thicker like that, but probably a little bit more burst down the field,

13:38but he's got great vision. And, you know, now, can he break tackles like Corey? That's, we don't know that. That remains to be seen. We'll see if he's able to do that. All four of these guys can catch the ball in the back field. Really like that part of it. You know, Perry came in from Louisiana. It was an outstanding kick return. Guy, which he'll do that for us as well. He's got a lot of speed for a guy. He's over 200 pounds and he's probably 207, 208. So he's a big back as well. Like what he can do with the ball in his hands. He's got to get better with the ball out of his hands, but with, with the ball in his hands, he's really good. Zion was a true freshman last year. Zion can run catch. He can do it all as well. And he's not very big. He's more of the scat kind of guy, a little bit more like prior. But he can go. I think he's gotten faster as well. And then Cole tab is a sophomore coming in from Stanford at Rushford. I don't know, four, five hundred yards at Stanford last year. He's broke off some big runs throughout camp. And he's extremely smart. Understands are often. Understands what we're trying to do. So that's why it's been hard on us today. I was, who's going to be the guy? I think they're all have shown at times. I think they're all get their opportunity.

14:40And then once you get into game like whoever's got a hot hand, whoever's really seeing it that day, we'll probably get the most most opportunities. We're alive at the original Montgomery and home of the world's greatest ribs. We've got some good swag to give away at the end of the show to our Bearcat fans who are here tonight, including the most unusual promotional item in college football this year. The serving pancakes this fall box to promote Cincinnati's great offensive line. It features Joe Cotton, Evan Tengus, doll and Taren Tyle on the front of the box. They're here with us tonight. And then on the inside of the box, we have pancake mix with their images on it. And syrup with their images on it. And it's real stuff. This is real pancake mix and syrup. It's not just a funky looking bottle. So we've got two of these gift packs to give away, along with other swag. Again, that's the case every week. We always have something to give away, but you have to be here at the show in order to win.

15:40Questions from the audience for the coach when we continue. You are listening to the Scott Satterfield radio show on ESPN 1530 from the Schmidt cooling 10 15 30. I have the original Montgomery and home of the world's greatest ribs in the Scott Satterfield radio show Tuesday nights eight to nine. Tonight we're on ESPN 15 30 after the red season is finished. We'll be on 700 WLW. We appreciate the folks who are with us in person tonight. And those of you listening on the radio, time for some questions from the audience. Are Bob and Phyllis fighting over the mic? You're going first? Bob's going first. So I'm not a betting man, but you know, I hear everything and I look at the team. I'm taking it over on wins with this team. But what I want to ask you about really is K-Ballford. This guy looks like a real host. Yeah, like he can go anywhere, play anywhere and do a lot for the team.

16:40Yeah, he was tired today. We were running him a lot. But yeah, you're right. He's, you know, a permanent owner force and one of our slot receivers. I feel like every scrimmage that we've had, he's made a lot of plays. You know, and you come away from and everybody's asking that we had Saur like, hey, who's that K-Waffer guy? You know what I mean? So he's made plays and he's probably one of our hardest practice players that we have. Like he goes wide open. That's why today he was a little winded toward the end. Because he doesn't stop. He's one of these guys. I'll just run himself all the way until he just passes out. And which is good. That's a great thing. You know, but he's still young. You know, he was just a freshman last year. He's still young. But I love guys like this because the way they work, they get better and better and better. He will make a lot of plays for us. There's no question. Has it got a chance to get bigger? He's really, I don't know if he's going to grow taller. But he is pretty thick. He's already thick right now. He's probably close to 195. He's not a frail wide receiver. So he's almost more like a running back, I would say, than maybe a wide receiver.

17:41So hopefully he'll be able to run through more tackles. I don't think he'll get a whole lot bigger unless he can get taller. He was a Ken State last year. Average 26 yards of catch. Now he had 19 catches. It wasn't a huge number. But 26 yards of catch is unusual. A lot of big plays. Yeah. And then when they handed him the ball because he also did jets, loops and stuff like that, that was eight yards per touch. Yeah. He's electric. You know, it'd be, it's going to be interesting. He'll have some opportunities for that for sure. All right. Phyllis is next. My turn. Yeah. Is there anything that's been besides Cade and your expectations with him? Something that's been a pleasant surprise that you were not expecting with some of these transfers and some of these newcomers? Yeah. You know, I think it was kind of unknown even throughout the spring. Like you think about especially a wide receiver because we brought a lot of wide receivers in. But I think this August, they really kind of separated themselves. I thought, Finner had an outstanding August. He was kind of hurt. He missed several practices. Probably half the practices in the spring.

18:42But he really did some good things in the fall in August. So I think he'll be a guy who will get a lot of opportunities at the Z-receiver position for us. And then Malachai Henry's another one. You know, Malachai came from Central Arkansas, small school. His dad's a college coach. Very smart. And he's made a lot of plays this August as well. So, and then JV Gibson's the other one. So those kind of four transfer wide outs, I think I've really done some really neat things for us this August. There's certainly going to be in the mix making plays on the outside. So, you know, to me, that's kind of been a question mark at wide receiver because we had so many. Like who's going to be really be helping us out there? But I think this August, they've kind of done that. Now, now I got to go show it when we go play. Malachai Henry came from the same school as Jake Golday. Correct. So you're one for one. Yeah. So far. Hopefully be two for two. Yeah, exactly. All right. Next question. Yeah, coach. What's the special teams in kicking game look like this year? Yeah. We, you know, I think it's very, very solid. I think, you know, we brought back our punter or kicker or snapper, which a lot of teams, you know, didn't.

19:43And, and, you know, I think Fletcher's Fletcher's one of the best punters in the country. He had an outstanding season last year. And I know he will this year as well. He can pin guys inside the five-yard line, 10-yard line. He's excellent at the pooch punt. But he also is obviously huge to flip the field back up. You know, I thought Steven had a really good year last year. Minus the BYU game where we didn't, he did not play good in that game. But pretty much the rest of his career has been really, really good. I think he's only missed maybe one or two total outside the BYU game. So we have high hopes for him. I think he can do some outstanding things and he lies our snapper. And, you know, I think he was, I don't know, one of these one teams, an all-american fourth team or something. So he's a great, long snapper as well. So to me, that's the nucleus of the specialist. And then obviously, everybody else is, you know, part of the defense or offense. We got some really good speed on the team this year. Coach Pasquale's done a really good job with the teams. Based off last year, this year, we've kind of turned it up a little bit. Excited to watch those guys. Over a two-year stretch, Steven Russnack made 22 consecutive field goals

20:45between Charlotte and Cincinnati. So obviously, there are only so many players in the country that can say that. If you have a question for coach, raise your hands, Zach. We'll find you. Otherwise, I will go, but it looks like Brian is ready and willing. Coach, last year you started against Nebraska. This year you're starting against Boston College. Do you kind of like starting against, and Boston College is probably not the same as Nebraska was last year. But do you like starting against? They might be. Some. Okay, I don't know. Okay, so there's my question. Educate me on that. Do you like starting against somebody that kind of like a bit of a profile game, or do you like to kind of get to build some stuff, build some momentum for us? Well, the coach answer to that is, we like whoever we start with. I think it doesn't matter. You know, and you can say, well, a power team, we'd like to start with them. The negative to starting with what the team like Boston College or Nebraska is like I mentioned earlier,

21:46there's so many unknowns. And so you're going into this game, you know, with, you know, probably two pretty good teams and, you know, everybody made their acquisitions in the off season and built their team up. And they got some new coaches. We got a new defense coordinator. They do too. You know, so there's a lot of unknowns, you know, and if you so if you played up, let's say, you know, an FCS team and maybe, you know, maybe you're more talented and you start figuring some things out. And then the other team that you got to play next week, they've already played a game so you can kind of see those. So you can kind of see it that way as well. You know, because right now you can't say who's going to be good or who's not going to be good. I think you got a pretty good idea, you know, maybe some of the top teams that have a bunch of guys that came back. You feel like, oh, they'll probably be pretty good. But there's a lot of teams that you have no idea, you know, and these guys are trying to, you know, pick who's going to finish top of the conference or last. They don't know until you start playing. And that's the case for this first game. You know, I think we told our team when we met on Monday, you know, this team won two games last year, but you have no idea how this team is going to be this year. They they went out and got 50 new players. I mean, so we don't know how they're going to be.

22:47And so I think we got to approach this team like this is the best team in the country. And our guys got to be ready to play and play our best game. That's how we're approaching it. And you also know that Boston College has an excellent coach, Bill O'Brien. Absolutely. He was at Penn State, took the Houston Texans to the playoffs several times. His teams historically have been great at running the ball. Absolutely. You know, it's not going to be a team that comes out looking sloppy. It's going to be a well coach team. Yeah, correct. You know, yeah, look, you know, coach O'Brien's, you know, man, I think they had the Texans. They finished first in his division four times out of six or seven years. I mean, he's a good football coach. Obviously, it was a head coach at Penn State. You know, the kind of career he's had, obviously, knows what he's doing. And he's an offensive mind. He is calling the plays this year. Last year did not call him. He is calling him this year. They did get a new quarterback transfer from Saginaw Valley. Yeah. Who's a really good runner. I mean, he rushed for over 900 yards last year through for over 2000. He's a good player. And they got a running back from Liberty that was one of the top runner backs in the country last year that rushed for right at 1400 yards.

23:48The guy can go. I mean, so they're going to try to come in here and be physical, try to run the football. That'll be a challenge for our defense to get them, you know, get that run and game stopped. You got through training camp, mostly healthy. Unfortunately, he lost a player who was expected to be one of your starting safeties. Ty Goodwill, he tours Achilles. He will miss this season. But in kind of unusual circumstances, you found somebody who can help fill that void. And it's happened in the last week. The Angelou Hutchinson was granted an extra year of eligibility. You coached him when he was a freshman at Louisville. He stayed at Louisville for four years. Now he's got one year of eligibility left and he wants to spend this final year playing for you again. Yeah. He's a great kid. I enjoyed when we recruited him and he was my last year at Louisville. He was there as a freshman. And I always kind of kept my eye on him. I thought he was obviously a really good player. He was second on their team in Tacos last year at Louisville. So he's a really good player, safety. You know, and these crazy football rules that pop up, I mean, it was one of these things where he became available.

24:49And I was like, man, I know him and he's good and we have a need. Let's see if we can go make this happen and we were able to get him. And, you know, we got him late though. As you mentioned, we just got him last week. So he's still learning. He's still trying to figure out our calls, how we do things. He's slowly but surely getting integrated in our defense and our special teams. And you know, we'll see as this week goes on, how much can he play Saturday. We don't know yet, but we'll obviously want to get him out on the field and help let him help us, you know. And as the week's go on, surely he's going to be able to get out there and help us. So yeah, he's an addition, which is man, what we needed him because you know, I can mention Ty went down. So just for depth, just to have another guy in the second area is going to be helpful. All right, as you know, from other speaking engagements that you've done since the end of last year, Bearcat fans were happy to hear that you typically will not have three players and only three players rushing the quarterback. That's correct. They did not like that so much the last few years. So they're excited to know that Nate, what his defense is going to be sending for or more when the other team is passing.

25:51But I do have kind of a strange question for you. What would it have to be like third and 20, third and 25 to only rush three? How many yards would it have to be before you'd say, all right, we'll rush three, go for eight. Maybe 12. 12 out of 12 maybe. Okay. It depends where you're on the field too. Go down. School all of the stuff matters. And all Matt with the score and all that. Yeah, but we he does have to package that, you know, I was with him for five years ago. We do have a package where we only rush three and then we'll drop the linebackers off. To around the sticks to get the first down. You know, so in other words, we will give up some yards and then we're going to rally and tackle before the sticks. You know, so that is part of the package. But when we predominantly, we're going to need to put pressure on the court of backs. As we all know, man, we play some great quarterbacks in this league. The big 12 and so you have to be able to get after those guys. If you don't, they have time. They'll pick you apart. And so that's what we've been working on. So it will certainly be different this year. And, you know, as we can come in here each and every Tuesday night, then we hope we

26:53are talking about some sacks and some turnovers. Absolutely. Some turnovers and interceptions. And our defense did get some a lot more picks this fall than we did last fall in August. So hopefully that'll translate on game day as well. So I think it will. I'm very optimistic. All right. We have several members of one of the nation's best offensive lines with us tonight here at the original Montgomery N along with their outstanding coach Nick Cardwell. We are going to meet the gang to at a time over the final half hour. Of our show. This is the Scott Center field radio show. We're live at the original Montgomery N home of the world's greatest ribs on ESPN 1530. Hey, PN 1530. We're back at the original Montgomery N home of the world's greatest ribs in the Scott Center field radio show every Tuesday night. Eight to nine. We get you set for bearcat football this week since it had he opens the season at home against the Eagles of Boston College. It's a 3 30 kick at the nip. Our radio coverage will start at 230.

27:55We love on this show having the opportunity to get to know the players and also the assistant coaches. We have an assistant coach and three players with us tonight. So here's how we're going to break it down. We will talk to the assistant coach and one of his players for 15 minutes. We'll let them go and resume their dinner and then we'll bring out the other two players. So up first, he is in his fourth year as Cincinnati's offensive line coach. He has added the title of co offensive coordinator. This year he has had an all American every year. He's been in Cincinnati. We expect him to have another one this year. Let's hear it for O line coach co OC Nick Cardwell. And in between coach and me, we have his left tackle. He's in his second year at Cincinnati after starting out close to home South Dakota. He was second team all big 12 last year. He's preseason first team all big 12 this year. Let's hear it for Joe. Well, you may have heard when I was talking to coach Satisfield, I mentioned something

29:03that a national reporter said to me at big 12 media days. He said, coach, you can comment on this. Having returning offensive lineman like Joe cotton, Evan Teng is doll in Tarantino is a cheat code for college with Balty. What do you think? Not just a cheat code, this is a luxury. You know, I don't think there's times, you know, at practice that we're getting after and we're coaching them hard. You go back and watch the film and you realize how blessed we really are to have those three young men. And not only are they great football players, but great people. You know, and they treat each other right. The connection, the chemistry between all five of them up front. It's fun for me to watch and it's fun for me to be a part of. There was a news conference earlier today with some of the players talk to the media, including your new quarterback, JC French Joe. He talked about how the tightness of the offensive line really stands out to him. Just how the chemistry has formed between not only the three guys that are back, but the entire group, first string, second string, etc.

30:04Is that accurate? Yeah, I mean, we have a lot of fun with everything we do. I mean, whether it's in the position room or it's in the locker room where, you know, we're always going to make jokes with each other or always going to have a lot of fun. We spend a lot of time outside the facility with each other so that kind of adds to it. I mean, we'll go and get a lot of food when we do all that. So, and then we have a great coach that kind of sets a great environment for us to, you know, excel in and continue to just enjoy, be able to enjoy with each other. It's the transfer portal era. We're thankful that you three guys elected to come back to Cincinnati together this year. And when I've talked to each of you, you all mentioned that your coach is a big reason. Why? What is it about Coach Cardwell that made you want to continue playing for him? I mean, he took what I, you know, when I transferred in, there was a lot of things about my game that I needed to improve on. And he was like one of the only ones that straight up just told me that. He showed me a lot of the stuff that he did with John Williams in the past.

31:04And I mean, like I said before, he's a great coach. He knows exactly when to kind of let us do our thing and when to get on us about, you know, certain things that we're doing. And then he's just very good with teaching us to playbook, teaching us to techniques and how he wants it. And then just kind of teaching us ball, like having more ball knowledge at the end of the day, too. Coach, how has Cincinnati become able to have good offensive lineman here after year after year? Yeah. And, you know, to me, why wouldn't you want to come to Cincinnati and play offensive line here? You know, you're playing in a big 12. You got a great culture here. You got a great crowd. You got, you know, great support. I remember this time last year we were sitting in the same room and somebody asked to go to question. It was to you, Joe. I don't know if you remember this, but they said, hey, Joe, why even come to Cincinnati? You're in the portal. You had a lot of schools, you know, trying to get your attention and all that. And in your mind, you're like, why not? Why not come here? You know, and so I think since the Nazis, you know, got a great tradition of having some

32:05awesome offensive lineman, I think we've created not just, you know, within our room, but what Coach Sadderfield has done created a great culture for our guys to thrive. Now, they're challenged every single day. They're held accountable. But at the same time, we want it to be fun with everything that we do. And it's hard enough to play offensive line. And I think when you, when you mix that with some of the development things that we've been able to do throughout the years, you got a nice mixture of something that people want to be a part of. And at the end of the day, it's these guys that are putting in the work. We're going to give them the tools, but Joe, Taren, Evan, Loso, Judea, all these guys, they're putting in the work themselves. We're just trying to show them the path to get there. You have a quote from Sun Zoo. And to the top of your Twitter account, it reads as follows, great. I'm sorry. Treat your men as you would, your beloved sons. And they will follow you into the deepest valley. Is that your approach for motivating your guys? I treat them and my oldest son is here.

33:07And I might get emotional because I really tried to focus on treating them the same way I want my son to be treated. And if I see something, and it's not just where they're putting their hands, where they're putting their feet, or how they're finishing somebody, but how they carry themselves with confidence, how they speak to each other out of respect. I think those things are super important, the character of who they are. I don't care if they're in all American, all big 12, or if they're a walk on, they're going to be held to that standard because in my mind, if that's my son, and I'm not there, I would like for somebody who has some form of authority to reach in there and say, hey, shake him loose and say, no, no, we're not going to treat each other like this. Or now, we're not going to practice like this. This is who you're supposed to be. And that's always been our approach as it pertains to the coach. And I think it's paid off. And I think the guys enjoy that. But I think life is cyclical. One day Joe might be a high school football coach. And after long NFL career, after long NFL career.

34:09And what if he coaches my son? How's he going to treat my six year old at that point as he gets older? You know, I'd hope he treated the same way I did. Does coach live up to that quote? Yeah, yeah, I would say he would. I mean, every single day, I would say he loves up to that quote very well. I mean, he's the same person every day. You know what you're going to get out of him. She probably asked, I live up to that quote. Yeah. Let's get a thumbs up. Let's get big thumbs up. Yeah, you get a thumbs up. Yeah. He interrupted his ribs to give a big thumbs up. So we have these pancake boxes. A couple of them that we're going to give away at the end of the show tonight. How cool is this? Let me start with you, Nick, that you see elected to promote the offensive line the way that they have. I think a lot of times at a lot of universities, it's the quarterback, it's the wide receiver. It's a skill guy. And what these guys do day in and day out, it's always seen. The only time you see them is if it's a bad snap, somebody jump off sides or they give

35:09up a sack. Now you notice them all of a sudden. And for them to get, you know, recognized like this for their hard work and these guys are modest guys. They could, they could live without that. Like they would probably prefer not to be in the long light. But I think they deserve it. I think, you know, for the hard work they've put in and the master piece of that, I feel like they put together last year. I think that they have earned the right to have, you know, some bodhisattva and a little bit of pancake stuff. They put out a great video that features a three of you guys in the kitchen, you're stirring the batter, you're pouring it into the griddle, you're flipping the cakes. Look very legit to me, meaning you are either a good chef or you're a good actor. Yeah. I think it's a mix bowl. I'm going to be honest. Yeah. Who's the best? Who's the best out of y'all three? You think is the best cook. I mean, it depends, but we're cooking. I mean, they're both raising their hands. Yeah. And Taren and Evan are both paying to be the best. I mean, they're both going to say that they're the best. The best pancake. This is the best pancake. I mean, definitely not. I mean, that was my first time making pancakes. So, yeah, I mean, Evan said he makes pancakes, but a lot.

36:13And they were both, you know, trying to one up each other with the past eight. And I was just trying to figure it out. Yeah. I was trying to make each pancake better than the last. All right. So the offensive line last year gave up eight sacks for the season. The only school that gave up fewer was army. And they're starting quarterback average, something like seven passes a game. So of the teams that actually threw the ball, a reasonable number of time, you guys were number one is sacks allowed an offensive line stat or a quarterback stat? I think it's an everybody stat. Everybody goes into it. The tight ends do a great job in protection. The running backs got to do a great job in protection and the quarterback has got to get rid of the football. And we'd love for, you know, to be number one, you're in and you're out and that's the goal. But the quarterback's got to get rid of the ball. There's, there's times. Last year you'll watch film. Somebody's getting beat fast. And it may be one of the three pancake boys here. All right. Somebody got beat fast and that ball had to come out.

37:15And so I think what Coach Pete Thomas has done with our quarterbacks is done a great job of helping them understand the progression and how we can get the ball out in a quick way. Do you feel like you have a good grasp of BC's defense or considering the entirely different personnel and the new defensive coordinator? Is it something of a mystery? I think coach that I kind of talked about it before. I mean, there is a little bit of mystery up in the air about specific things that we're seeing. I mean, we're ready for anything. The coaching staff is getting us prepared for any type of luck that we're going to get. We went against the decorner in a couple years ago and kind of going off stuff from that and other games. And yeah, we'll just be prepared for anything. And then throughout the game, I know that our coaching staff will be on top of any adjustments we need to make. He was at UCF most recent, most recently. So he did face his defense there. We have a saying in the O'Lanroom, I expect nothing. I'm prepared for anything. So that we can carry no expectations. And if something new shows up, let's say it starts raining, whatever it is great, also

38:19can I be prepared for anything? Good. Good. We wanted that way. That sounds like it could be sun zoo as well. It could be. It's something. You know, but I'm excited about that because give us something different. Like, I want to see these guys adjust. I want to see them grow. Everything that we do is about growth. These guys are not peaking right now. This is not what they're doing. They are on a track of growth, even throughout the season and even throughout each one of these games. They're trying to get better every single drive. So I'm excited to see what they're going to give us up front and how well we can adjust as a front. We're excited to watch your group perform and Joe are excited to watch you play. Thanks so much for being here tonight for representing our school so well. Thank you very much for having me. All right. We'll take a time out when we come back. Terrentio and Evan Teng is done. This is Scott Satterfield radio show on ESPN 1530. It's a family owned company and 1530. We are back at the original Montgomery and home of the world. Greatest ribs in the Scott Satterfield radio show Tuesday, night, eight tonight.

39:21Thank you, Bearcat fans for coming out tonight. We've got good swag to give away in about 11 minutes at the end of the show. Time to introduce our next two guests to stellar players on Cincinnati's outstanding offensive line. The player furthest away from me. He's in his second year at Cincinnati, changing positions this year from guard to center. His name is Terrentio. If we change the middle name, I'm sorry, the middle letter of your last name from a Y to a K. It could be Terrent TKO, which is the way you treat the opposition. But preseason all big 12 according to Phil Steele coming off a great first year as a bearcat. Terrent TKO. And closest to me, he was an all American last year, a third team all American last year. If you pick up a magazine or look at a website that covers college football this preseason, he's a first team all American on every one AP sporting news.

40:22The athletic Phil Steele, you name it. He's from the Dayton area, went to Wayne High School. We're thrilled to have him at the school that his mom attended. You're welcome, Evan Tengastal. Evan I had a chance to chat with you earlier this week for the radio pregame show. I'm going to bring something up with you two guys that I brought up with you the other day for people that play video games, specifically the college football video game. There are five guys in the country that tied for having the highest rating for strength and two of the five are sitting at this table. Not me. I'm wondering. Terrent and Evan both had a 97 in strength rating. Who's the stronger of the two or are you actually tied? We're pretty close. We're definitely pretty close. We both have a little bit more weight in different categories. Bench, who's a little harder than his, but his squats are the minds. If you go live for a lip, it's probably very, very, even.

41:24I got to think for somebody, your guy's age, being the top rated guy in a video game, he's one of the cooler honors you could have. No, yes, it's definitely very cool. I mean, it's cool. I don't play the SLA game. I'm a really big mad and guy. I got to test the play guy. But yeah, it is definitely cool. I'm big in the game. I definitely play it myself a little bit. Try to put guys on their back and get mad at myself if I let up a bad play. Yeah, I definitely play it. It's very cool to see myself in a video game for sure. All right, so after last year, there was actually a little bit of, I don't know if debates the right word, but I didn't know which of you two guys was going to wind up playing center this year. You both could do it. I think you played center in high school, right Evan? Is that correct? Yeah, a little bit of center in high school. So you both trained at it. You're both capable of doing it. Why did it work out this way, Taren? Why are you the guy that made the switch from guard to center? I feel like for me, like I kind of wanted to play center just to get that experience under

42:28my belt. It also just because I needed a challenge. I needed something I can work towards every day, not that it wasn't a challenge at guard which it still was, but at center, it's a whole different kind of challenge there and idea in front and all the calls in the backfield, snap the ball, all goes together. And so I think, you know, Evan and Joe common made each other really well too on the left side. I'll let him talk more about that, but yeah, I just thought it was a right decision. I just wanted to make it good inside of something more. How do you feel about staying at left guard, Evan? Yeah, we both, so we, me and Taren both got a ton of reps at center throughout the all the offseason walkthroughs, all that type of stuff. I'm very capable of playing all threes as well as he is. We're both very comfortable playing center as well as both guards. But it just, it came down to, he wanted to be a center and I felt really comfortable with me and Joe saying on the left side, we felt we were really good last year and us playing next year. So they're all this offseason and keep building that bond and just getting closer and

43:30developing our games together. We're going to keep playing better and better this year. So going to this year, we just felt like we would be even stronger than we were last year going to the season. The center that you're replacing Gavin Gerhardt was a four year starter NFL draft picked by the Vikings didn't make the 53 man roster, but today was announced he made the practice squad, which it's a $250,000 a year job. So that's not bad. He is undoubtedly one of the great leaders in Barricade history. Any era, any position, he's just one of those guys. How have you guys collectively filled the leadership void that he left? Yeah, I mean, he was such a great leader that, you know, we got together a car well and the offseason, it was like us, us three together can can do some great things. For me, like Joe Coppements be very well. In Coppements or I call them Evan Will and vice versa, like we all compliment each other's leaders very well. And you know, to see the leadership development in myself and these other two guys throughout

44:32the offseason, throughout one of workouts, about summer workouts, it was really awesome to see. And also, I think one of our biggest things that we strive for is empowering leadership and other people too. And I think we both think we all three of us took massive steps in that as well. What would you like the UCO line to be known for this year, Evan? Um, I feel like being known for consistency and just a very tough style of football that we're just a bunch of high motor guys that do not give up on a play. You'll always see us pushing the pile and just going the extra mile and extra step each and every play to make sure we get pancakes and make sure we just pass the play and make sure we get all the yards we can have a play. You're going to see a lot of high effort plays out of us this year and we want to be known for that and just a lot of consistency with our play. What does each of you like about Coach Cargwell, Teran, you go first? There's a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot I like about him. I mean, when I first came here, I knew that he was a very intense coach and at first,

45:35I was like, I don't know, is he going to match up with me very well? And, you know, like I got here and I trusted him to coach me how I'm good at being coached. So he's really, he's a definition of a player's coach and like he said earlier, I mean, he treats us with respect, he treats us with love and sometimes it is tough love. But guess what? It gets us better each and every day and that's something that we strive for every day is just growing, getting better and he does a great job doing that. Yeah, Teran said it best. The first time I met Cargwell, he came to my house. A lot of the coaches just come try to recruit you and talk football. The first thing he did, he came out and said, where's the deck of cards? It's face on spade. So, I just kind of left a big impact on me and had the person that he is. He's not all about football, he's about developing you as a person, as a man on and off the field. So that was a big thing for me just in choosing to stay here with Cincinnati and stuff like that. So, yeah, Teran said the best. He's just a very good coach. He coaches every single person, every player on the team differently.

46:38He knows how each person needs to be coached and how they're going to thrive at their best with that style of coaching. So, he just does a really good job at coaching us like he coaches his own kids and just treating us the way we need to be treated. Had the chance to visit with both of you guys at Big 12 Media Days and Teran, you said something that really kind of lingered in the back of my head. You started your college career at Ball State. I asked you about coming to Cincinnati. You said Cincinnati changed my life. That's the expression you used. In what ways did coming to UC change your life? I think first of all, it just made me who I am today. I mean, through going to Ball State and then having a coaching change deciding to enter the portal, just had surgery on my knee coming here, changing my life in terms of how healthy I feel, how my body feels, the strength and conditioning aspect of it. I mean, Coach Niko is probably going to be like at my wedding someday because he's had that much influence in my life and a bunch of other people's lives too.

47:41Just coming here and knowing like, I'm looking for a family atmosphere and that's why I looked for at Ball State. Coming here, it was like everybody cares about everybody. There's not one person that just doesn't care about the team, about the people, the staff. And so through that, I was like, you know what, it's a place to be. And it's changed my life for the better, 100% and I want to regret my decision at all. Evan, you did not transfer to Cincinnati. You've been a bearcat from the very beginning. I mentioned earlier, you're from the Dayton area. You opened the season at home against Boston College at Nipper. How big of a rooting section do you typically have at a bearcat home game? Oh, it's always full. No matter what the game is, the students always show out. That means from like your family, your friends and family from a date. Yeah, do you have a lot of folks that come? My mom's bringing at least 10 people to each game. There we go. So I got a fun ticket for all of them. But yeah, my family shows up every game.

48:44They don't miss anything. Both my brothers just went to college. So they're going to come to, I got the schedule. Their game is including with mine. So my parents are definitely going to come to probably all the way games this year. But yeah, they show up every game and they're very supportive of me. So very appreciative. So we are very appreciative of you guys. You're phenomenal at what you do. You're great representatives of UC. Have a great season, a healthy season. And by all means, BPC, unsaturday. Yes sir. Yes sir. Teran Tio and Evan Tengazdall. That is going to adjust about wrap up our show tonight. Thanks to Joe Strecker here who's set up all of the equipment. We've got some great stuff to give away. Don't forget, at UC versus BC Saturday at 330, radio coverage starts at 230. That's going to wrap it up tonight for the Scott Satterfield radio show on ESPN 1530. Are you an electrical worker looking for recognition? Hi, this is Kylie Breakman, Angel Jaretana, Jeremy Colhane, Patrick McDonald. And we're the hosts of the artists on artists on artists on artists podcast. The improvised character comedy podcast were each week a new panel of artists discuss their

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