The Worst 2026 Fantasy Football Picks in Every Round

0:00Welcome to the Ring of Fantasy football show, my name is Danny Hyfe, and I'm still joined in person by Danny Kelly, Claire Coralbeck. We're still in Los Angeles, baby. We're still here. Today we were going over. Maybe they're leaving here. No, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. That's good. I'll live in a hotel forever. We're going over the worst picks in every round today. We're following up the best picks in every round with the worst picks in every round. The people that we're just really not looking to draft. Because you tell people who to take but those people can be taken. And maybe it's more important to tell you who to avoid and what mistakes to avoid. So we're just going to go over and be like, basically, who's giving us the F in each round. We're not saying never take these people. But if it's like, unless you're getting a real good deal, there's our least favorite

1:00pick at cost as the fantasy people like to say. And there's no right way to determine the definition of what our least favorite pick is. Other than if we love you and you're asking us for advice on your team and then we're like, how to go and you send your draft back and we see these people, we're a little bit like, ooh, if your entire lineup comprised of these people, we'd be upset with you. Yes. So you'd be a fun way to do it. Somebody should do that. You'll probably be fucking win. And then they probably just go undefeated. So yeah, we're going to do that. And I also want to remind people that we have been season episodes. We do Sunday night recaps. We do Monday waivers. So during the season, you got to add, you know, a lot of times during the season, like, you know, a few different waiver picks kind of determine the entire season. The fantasy season arguably starts after week one. You could argue that what you do over the waiver wire over the course of the season is more important than your draft. So we do waiver help for you on Mondays and then we have power hours on Wednesdays, which are really fun in the Friday preview. So four times a week during the season. So if you've liked the chaos insanity of the show, then stick with us during the season.

2:03And we're going to go over the, yeah, the worst picks in ever round. But first we're going to take a quick break. This episode is presented by Verizon. While you're upgrading your fantasy roster, check out how you can level up your game day with Verizon Shine. Verizon customers can win VIP flyaway experiences with their favorite NFL team. Here now for your chance to win one of these once in a lifetime trips in the Mive Verizon app. Keep checking the app for season long perks, like ticket offers, exclusive merch and more from Verizon Shine. No purchase necessary for the NFL flyaway sweepstakes. See Verizon Shine for details. All right. Going over the worst picks in each round. Round one, it's not like there's any bad picks, but you're grading on a curve. Right. So by the way, the list where we are using average draft position based on we're doing fantasy pros, right? And then we're doing a collection of ADPs across the internet. So this is like a compilation of that. It's like half point perception, but that's kind of the same thing as full point perception. It doesn't change the rankings that much, honestly. And so it's part, you know, it's Yahoo, it's fantasy pros, it's sleepers, it's like an amalgamation.

3:03Amalgamation. Amalgamation. Amalgamation. A comp, whatever. It's a bunch of stuff mixed together. My question for you too, if we're starting here at Round One, I have one question for you both. I think we're all going to say Jonathan Taylor, is that right? Are you not? I think I am. I think I am. I was just figuring it out. My question is, is there any other bad pick in the first round? I don't know, there's a bad pick. No, sorry. Is there any other pick that you think is even in contention for worse pick other than Jonathan Taylor? Or is every other pick a like a two thumbs up? Maybe CDLAM. CDLAM at 10. Yeah. CDLAM is weird because I wouldn't be shocked at all. CDLAM just leads the NFL in every receiving category. It's hard to pick like against the number one wide receiver on maybe the best offense in the NFL. Justin Jefferson, if Kyler doesn't quit. I think, but the CDLAM, I think is interesting because last year we didn't see him post elite numbers. He's actually only had one season with, with truly elite numbers. And now George Pickens, I think, complicates the picture and like how much is he going to be utilized to you?

4:04Arguably, arguably might be just better overall at being a receiver. So I don't know. I think to me, that's like kind of the risk. Obviously, Justin Jefferson is in the first round on this ADP at number 12. We don't know how he's going to mesh with Kyler Murray. Assuming Justin Jefferson can really get back to elite numbers with Kyler Murray, where Kyler Murray could make Justin Jefferson just great instead of elite. And then you'd probably still be disappointed. So like that's probably the one that makes me nervous. It's like, Justin Jefferson's great in real life. There's a reason we've been touting taking Kyler Murray as a quarterback instead of like just Justin Jefferson. But Jonathan Taylor again, to me, it's really simple. The reason I had Jonathan Taylor is it's just his discrepancy and how many points he scores and wins versus losses is like a story. Scott Bares talked about this at fantasy points. It's like Derek Henry and Jonathan Taylor. They're basically one of the best fantasy players of all time when they win. It's like 24 points per game almost. And then it losses. It's like less than half that. And so if you think the Ravens are going to be good, which I do, Derek Henry is a great pick. My fear is that if the Colts are not as good as they were in the first half of the season,

5:04you're looking at, OK, well, if the Colts win seven games, you might have 10 really bad games, scripture, Jonathan Taylor. So that's my concern where it wouldn't be weird if he had a healthy season was disappointing. Whereas the other people in the first round, if they were healthy, it'd be weird if they had a weird season. I agree. Yeah. I think it's just, he just feels to me like there's a chance of all the first round or so he's going to be the guy that I think is frustrating to have on your team because the Colts are just, I just don't believe in them truly that they are as good as they were last year started the last season. We talked about this a bunch. Taylor is not going to score three touchdowns every other game like he did last year. He had a hatchback of hatchback. It's just crazy. He had three games with three touchdowns in the four games. But that being said, I mean, maybe the best pure runner in the NFL. Awesome player. It's a tale of two halves because if you just, if somebody's just kind of showing up to a draft and they just pull up what happened last year, he's the number two running back in fantasy was right behind McCaffrey. You're like, wow, 20 points a game. Like this guy's amazing. But once you look at after Daniel Jones went down, he was like a top 20 guy.

6:06Yeah. He was just like a league average running back. And I know Daniel Jones is back, but like the Achilles, Michael Pittman's gone. That's offense was historically good last year. Like 2007 Patriots. 2007 Patriots good. So if it just becomes an average offense, Jonathan Taylor probably becomes an average first rounder, maybe even probably below that. I don't mean to be Debbie Downer on the Colts because I want them to be good. I'm just afraid. Everyone's like, oh, Jackson Dart for the Giants can't make it through a season. Daniel Jones has had one healthy season, basically in since COVID. So the idea that well, he's back from the Achilles, there's a lot of other ways the man can get hurt. And the Colts, you know, they made something. The Colts started 7 and 1. And then in Jonathan Taylor was the best player in fantasy. The Colts probably would need to be 7 and 1 again for Jonathan Taylor to be the best friend. So it's like, what about round two? And again, just to go through the players and round two. So there's Devon H. in for Miami, Chase Brown, they're running back for the bangles, Ash and Gentie for the Raiders who we should talk about because he has an ankle issue. So he's disqualified. He's disqualified because you shouldn't take Ash and Gentie in round two.

7:09Not at 15th overall. No, we're going to average draft position. And again, that's like kind of including from before he got hurt. So I would wait till the end of round two at least to take Gentie if not later. O'Marion Hampton for the charge is running back. Ken Walker running back for the cheese star, Kenning running back for the Ravens. Josh Allen for the bills is going 19th on average. AJ Brown for the Patriots is going 20th. Drake London for that Falcons is going 21st. Brock Bowers on the Raiders, Tide-N, George Pickens received for the Cowboys and equal calls to the Texans. D.K. Who's your least favorite pick in round two? It pains me to do this because I love him, but Devon H. Ann feels like a very risky pick this time. That's what I had to do. I know that I'm sure you put London, but I think H. Ann at 13 is very high. We're losing Mike McGuinial now having Malik Wallace and just not knowing what that offense is going to look like. It is strange because there is a world where H. Ann is really good and again, even maybe the Dolphins offense is even a little better than you expect or the defense is so bad that he should again, there's a world where H. Ann's actually the leading receiver on the team. Right. So he could have like a Cardinals last year a Tramik ride where H. Ann has some crazy

8:10fantasy season, but banking on that feels a little insane. Yeah. And the alternative, like they're literally the favorite to just have the worst record in the NFL. I was going to say, how often is one of the best players in fantasy on the worst team in the NFL? It's a, it's one of those where it's like the post draft clarity when the Dolphins are terrible. Especially when they're right. You feel, you feel kind of dumb. I think it's, yeah, and it's one of those things too where you say, oh, they're going to be trailing a lot. So therefore they might be passing a lot and maybe he's more involved in the passing game than he has in previous years. But he had 85 targets last year. Do we think he's going to have 85 again this year? That's the key. And the other thing to keep in mind with this is when you look at teams, players on good teams, when they're scoring a lot of points, there's more possessions. There's more plays. I'm worried about the amount of plays that the Dolphins are going to run. I think they're going to be a slow offense. I think they're not going to run very many plays because they're not going to get a ton of first downs. So that is my worry is there's just not going to be the volume to make him an elite, elite fantasy player. I still think he's great. Obviously, I love him. He's one of my favorite players in the NFL.

9:10We'll stop. But I just worried about this environment. Would you take him? So we have H&L later at basically the end of round two where all these concerns started to be outweighed when it's like Devon H&L, George Pickens. I'm like, okay, I'll take him there. Yeah. But there's a huge difference between the 13th pick and the 23rd pick basically. I and we did this in our draft. I'm generally looking at Chase Brown, Hampton, Kenneth Walker, Henry, much more than H&N, just because of the offensive environment. Brown is in the with the bangles. I think Hampton with the chargers, Kenneth Walker with the cheese. I think really what it comes down to and maybe my favorite fantasy analysis Craig has had is like with receiver, does it feel like a miracle when they catch a pass? And for running back, does it feel like a miracle when they get to the red zone? And there's a chance. Like a miracle when they get a first down. And they like put together like three first downs. Like I just don't like three and out, pun, and I'm gonna be like, fuck, it's gonna suck watching. Team has no wide receiver. I don't know how they're gonna score. How we done, how we haven't done that in a minute, is it worth just reminding? I mean, dolphins are tanking and I don't feel bad sense. And I never made it away waddled.

10:11Teams don't think. I think it's not coming back. They're receivers are, they have rookies like Caleb Douglas, they have Chris Bell, they have Malik Washington and Jalen Tolbert. That's it. I mean, Jalen Tolbert is, is he the highest draft to play? He was the third on pick, he was pretty disappointing Dallas. Malik Washington's a six round who's gonna start Caleb Douglas. Is that a rookie fourth rounder? And then I mean Chris Bell. I mean Chris Bell. But yeah, say again. I think Douglas was in there. He was a third round. Yeah, so I mean, this is, it's preposterous. Well, I mean, yeah, they're, I mean, if you look at what the dolphins are doing, maybe tanking is not the correct word. It's, it's table resetting. It's basically resetting the roster trying to get their, their cap in order. They have so much dead cap right now. It's crazy. They're just like, it's like a guy with a lot of credit card dead. Who's like, I'm not gonna go out this weekend because I can't. I just can't spend $200 on drinks this weekend. Right. You could literally build almost the entire first team all pro offense last year with the cap hits. Yeah, that's all basically how much money the dolphins are spending on players that are no longer on the team. Yeah. To a entire weekend. Speaking of to a, that's why I kind of had Drake London here. And it's weird because you'd rather have HN at 13 than Drake London at 21.

11:14Maybe that's wrong. It's weird because every game that panic, Michael Penex plays a quarterback with Drake London. I think Drake London's gonna be elite and maybe better than the first round of Severs. We saw last year. What I'm gonna question to you is, do you want to spend a second round pick? Because when Michael Penex rushing back from the ACL to take the week one job from Tuha because Michael Penex is getting the chance to play because it's a disaster. Do you feel like Penex is gonna play 17 games? Because I feel like Penex is gonna play. Probably not. He'll look good. Drake London look good. But the moment Drake London goes, or sorry, Michael Penex gets any kind of issue, they're probably gonna like, you know, cautious because it's his third ACL tear and the next one is his career. So then it's like Tuha's playing and Tuha got, is the first person to lose a one-man quarterback competition or drag straight into the game? Yeah, but we're also proud of him. You know, the comments, the people are calling him on Instagram. With a heart. Did you see that? One of the odds that there's another guy with the same name as Tuha Mann. You have to explain this. You have to explain this. Tuha posted a photo of himself in the Falcon's uniform on Instagram. On Instagram. On Instagram.

12:15It says, for the A, with a salute emoji. And right below it, the same exact user name Tuha Mann says, we're so proud of you, you got this heart. It's starting to get a little bit. Yeah. Kind of a bummer, to be honest. The burn, look, the burner thing, do you guys have burners? I don't. Do you? Yeah, I do. But I don't. My favorite thing about Craig. I do have a burner. I'm not ashamed of it. I'll like to get out of this. I've got this full full full. I just bitch about it. People are gonna find it. For sure. Go find it. I'm not hiding anything on there. But I get it. Having to switch back and forth, like even like on Instagram, I have, I'm like the rewatchable on Instagram, the town Instagram, fantasy my own. You're always toggling back and forth. I kind of do understand getting it wrong, but it is deeply embarrassing. Also deeply. Having to comment like, it's such a good idea. We're so proud of you. Yes, which is worse. It's worse. Oh, you don't leave it. You can't leave it up. You're right. I actually think you're right.

13:15You absolutely can't leave it up. You can't just put it in your brain and respond into the burner thing with just then absolutely being sane in his own name was actually a great response. I was like, you know what? You're right. I'll just do it for my own account. We need a word for this when you actually comment with your burner. Yeah, you do. I don't know. Emails to ring your face, you footballgmail.com. But you want to know what it would or something like that. Yeah, we need a term for when you accidentally burn yourself, basically. But we need a better word than like the burner or self burn. We need something better than that. Like a self-docs. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Please email us a rewatch. Oh, also go find Craig's burner. But yeah, again, come on. Yeah, please find. If email is not a great thing. If you can find Craig's burner, I've actually been curious. I'll just kill and start a new one. You'll never find me. To be clear, if Michael Penix plays 17 games, Drake London is going underrated. I'm just kind of late. Yeah, yeah. And Penix get hurt. Well, because you look at that. I'd rather have George Pickens or Nico Collins or Age of Brown. All the guys around. I just, I don't know. It's actually kind of surprising. London is maintained kind of where he is and drafts. I also think I think what you get to a certain point in the offseason, rankings just don't change. I agree with that.

14:15People don't. People are. It's like past August 25th. People are like, yeah, yeah. It's what it is. It's hard to watch too. I'm going to be like, oh, in the drop of like two rounds. Okay. Round three, we have the Tramic bride that tied in from the Cardinals. Crystal Lave, receiver from the Saints. Kyron Williams running back from the round. Yeah. Jeremiah Love running back on the Cardinals. Malik neighbors receiver for the Giants. Javante Williams running back from the Cowboys. Breeze Hall running back for the Jets. Javante Smith receiver for the Eagles and Rashee Rice receiver for the Chiefs. Greg, who's your least favorite player in this? There's two more, right? Oh, God. Oh, sorry. Oh, Josh Jacobs running back from the Packers. I mean, that's just like the biggest off-counting him. And then off the board. Safe Flowers receiver for the Ravens and Travis H.N. They're running back for the Saints. I mean, this is a real poo poo platter here. We have, I mean, you could, I could, I could, I could, I could play to my love with a high ankle. I could offer you Malik neighbors talking about how his body is still not right or I could offer you safe flowers. It doesn't score touch that. It's so real quick. Malik neighbors had a presser the other day and was talking about watching himself on

15:15some of the clips that he's seen online. He's like, whoa. I was surprised I was moving like that. I sure don't feel like I'm paraphrasing now. He's like, I sure don't feel like I'm 100% or something like that. This is why we're lower on neighbors. This is why you guys always, I'm a Debbie Downer, but we need to wet blanket. Who's my mind when there's like a priest's in video of a guy running and they're like, oh my God, he's back to 100%. And it's just object permanence. It's not different than a toddler dropping sort of a bathtub. And just looking over the edge and being amazed that it still exists. Like you're like, you just, you forgot about him. It's like Alan Pierce goes back to practice and like, well, look at his calves. One is atrophy. They're not even the same size. He's not going to be a great NFL runner. He's like, look at those calves. You're like Johnny drama. Look at those calves. What'd you get those calves? Victory. No, but like I just literally your brain does not talk to your legs the same way for, there's a period of time between you're physically able to ramp up, which takes time. Then your brain is like putting a governor on it like a go kart. It just, I don't think neighbors is a good pick here. And that's why he's probably going to go in the top 24.

16:17I think he is probably the worst pick I think in this round now to me. I don't think I played week one. I find it hard because he is a, maybe a poor man's version of like a Christian McCaffrey because Christian McCaffrey hasn't practiced in weeks. But if he's on the field this year, and we've seen this year's in year in and year out, we still think this is a contract. When he's on the field, no, I don't think so. You think he is hurt? Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know what to believe, but if Christian McCaffrey gets a $5 million raise in the next six days, then he's probably, he's totally fine. Regardless, even if he was playing practicing right now, he's still one of the higher volatility players in the sense that he's either going to win you your league or he's going to be the most annoying player because you're drafting him so high. He had four and three. I do think. He had four and three touches last season led the NFL. Right. I don't think Malik neighbors is the worst pick in this, in this round because I do think if he is healthy, he is going to be a league winning type player. Yeah, but it's worth the risk in other words. Oh, you think so. Yeah, at this position. At this spot in in round three, I think that's worth the pick because, and again, this

17:23is this goes back to what's your strategy? Are you just trying to not get last? Maybe that don't pick him. But if you're trying to win your fucking league, this guy gives you an ability to do that in the third round. He has literally, I think over the last three years, the highest target rate of any receiver in the NFL. I mean, yeah. Did you say neighbors was your favorite pick in this round yesterday? No. I think so. You said Kyron Williams. Am I having a stroke? Did you not say it was neighbors? She writes. Oh, she writes. Sorry, the other guy who had knee surgery. She writes is playing practicing in full. I'm sure enough. I do, but I do understand. Patrick Mahomes is his quarterback. Good point. So, what do you say about that? He's not Patrick Mahomes. Only literally. I mean, every way. So I would just slightly quibble with that because I do think the upside is so fantastic. My other pick was Zay Flowers. Yeah. We've talked about him at Nazia at this point. He just doesn't score touchdowns. He doesn't get targets in the red zone. No. Doesn't get targets in the end zone. He gets elite targets in the middle of the field. Some of the best in the NFL, but he has the same amount of red zone targets the last three seasons as Alan Lazard.

18:23So I mean, 18 end zone targets in three seasons, same as Xavier LeGat. It's hard for guys his size to score like 10 to 12 touchdowns. And you're kind of hoping that these people in this range can score 10 to 12 touchdowns. So it limits the ceiling. It has to be the best season of his career. Right. And it would have to be like an outlier season. You know what I mean? Yeah. Malik neighbors have Malik neighbors were healthy. It doesn't have to be an outlier. An average Malik neighbor season is 10 to 12 touchdowns. Same spot. Same spot. Did have a lot of times he was tackling the goal line, but it's kind of like Dallas got it where it's like four touchdowns, five, four, three, three, four, 11. And you're kind of just hoping it's the 11 year. My question is I had Jeremiah love the running back for the Cardinals. Yeah. So that's another one. I enjoy shitting on him because I love him as a player. He's an incredible running back. I love him coming to the draft. The Cardinals took him to high whatever. And again, I just strike one. He's a rookie. I think rookie running backs are usually overdrafted just because there's too much hype. And I think it's underrated how much they won't contribute in the passing game. I strike two is I just think Cardinals are an awful team. Same thing as the dolphins and strike three. High and cool sprints are such a tough injury. My question is, do you think Mike Leflur, brother of Matt head coach of the Cardinals, giving

19:28Jeremiah love like 14 touches in the preseason first half? Is that a sign that they're going to actually give Jeremiah a lot of work and he doesn't care because I interpret it initially as, well, whatever they had planned from now, the moment he has any kind of flare up, they're going to have to dial it back. They'll probably have to put them on a touch, but we can limit it thing. And I had already thought they were going to have to limit his stuff this season. But now I'm like, okay, what if it's not that deep? What if it's not that deep? And they're like, well, when he's medically cleared, he's going to be the bell cow because they took him third and the 14 touches just because they gave him a lot of touches. Is there any world I'm wrong about that? Wait, what? Basically, Jeremiah love what if that's the fucking question? That was a long question. Can you just summarize it? Is Michael Fleur giving Jeremiah love a ton of touches in the preseason? I mean, he actually will have a ton of touches in the regular season? Yeah, I see. It's not that deep. Although it was stupid, I think I do think that he is, Jeremiah love were healthy. I do think he would be like one of the best picks in this round. And if he hadn't gotten an eight, I hadn't gotten an ankle injury. I do feel as though he's just going to get the ball a lot.

20:28James Conner. I think I agree with that. It's basically just going to be Tyler Algera and Jeremiah love. And even if it's a 70, 30 split, I'm like, even if it's 65, 35, I still think he's got him. I think he's going to get the ball a lot. I think they're going to throw the ball to him a lot. And it was just reported this morning that he's 50, 50 to play week one. So that's what I'm asking because it's like, James Conner's not a factor. And Trey Benson is basically, he's going to miss the entire season. He's on Ion serve. Yeah. So it's actually Conner's on I R too, right? Right. So it's just Jeremiah love and Tyler Algera. Yes. It's so stupid when you're like, well, Jayse, I love walk up the stairs of a plane with a pizza. So he's fine. But yeah, the ankle, I just don't want to go with high ankle spray on my team. I do agree. I wonder if there is a point where if you're like a really sharp league and he starts falling because everyone's around four. Yeah. I'll take him. I'll take him there. Yes. He's had like three weeks to recover again. That's not that much. But sometimes people will just play the next week with a high ankle and battle through the season. If he is going to have like close to a month to recover, it's still not great. But if he falls enough, I might take him.

21:29That's the thing. And like so there's a league I'm in where he fell after 50 and I was like, okay, now I'm like, oh my god. Yeah. It's like DJ Moore, but I'm gonna take him out. He's like, sit him week one. Who gives a fuck? Sit him week. Sit him two weeks. You're the cardinals. Make him let him be healthy. Yeah. Okay. So I had him as the not counting just Jacobs. I had Jeremiah love as the worst pick in this round. But solely because he's literally injured. Yeah, I wouldn't take him in the third probably. No, I would not. So that I think that's fair. Just imagine setting a lineup for week one. You're like, I need to replace my running back. Yeah, yeah. God. Okay, round four. Cam Skataboo running back from the year of giants. T. Higgins receiver for the Bengals. Lamar Jackson, quarterback for the Ravens. Ted Oro and Macmillan receiver for the Panthers. Ameka Bukka receiver for the Buckeneers who's also doing with toe injury that they won't tell us if it's turf toe or not. Oh no, Todd Bolles today said day to day or week to week. Oh, thank God. That's. That's kind of sick. I like that. It was a coach. I'd be that way. If I was a head coach, I also would be like day to day week to week month a month. Times not a fixed construct. Lad McConkey receiver for the chargers. I think I said Colson Lovellum tied in for the Bears Garrett Wilson receiver for the Jets.

22:31Deonja Swift received running back for the Bears. Quinshun Judgans running back for the Browns. Jalen Waddle received for the Broncos and Buck yearving. Running back for the Buckeneers. Yeah. DK, who's your least favorite pick in this round? I actually like this round a lot. Yeah. I like almost every player in this round. The one guy that kind of circled as someone I'm just not excited to draft. I probably won't be drafting ever is Quinshun Judgans. It's not that I don't like him. It's basically the same argument as Devon A. Chan, which is I just don't trust this offense to have a lot of possessions and run a lot of plays and being the position to score a lot of points. I especially don't like Cleveland weather late in the season. I don't want to have to deal with that. I think Quinshun Judgans is awesome. I actually had this in a real draft the other day where he was like falling and he was sitting there still and I still was just like I don't want to do it. I'm not doing it. I think I picked on a receiver instead. I just like the receivers more in this area. A Buka, Lad, Garrett Wilson, Swift, I like more. It's just there's other guys in this range that I like a lot more. I had Judgans too.

23:31He's a really good player, but strike one. Do you want to watch the Cleveland Browns? Strike two. Next year I'm going to be all over it. Strike two. Do you want to watch the Sean Watson? Strike three. Quinshun Judgans also coming off a broken leg last year. That's the other thing to injury and the offensive lines a massive question mark. So you're kind of hoping that the legs are covered. The Browns offense. Again, every defense. There's so many things that need to go right. Tell me one thing that's going right. Right. He's good. I guess he's looking healthy, but like quarterback mess offensive line mess. The offense in general is going to be a mess. What am I excited about? Looking, I mean, he averaged three and a half yards of carry last year. Like it was not. He looked good watching him on like three and a half with your eyes. Yeah. But he basically were, he scored like seven touchdowns in 10 games last year and that helped him. If he doesn't do that, it's rough. Also, to Sean Watson is a mess and every, every defa, every week, every defense is going into Cleveland and saying, well, we're just going to not let Judgans get yards and we're going to make the Sean Watson make him one dimensional. Yeah. So yeah, I, this is a guy you don't want to watch. It's Judgans.

24:31Okay. That was easy. Round five. We have David Montgomery running back for the Texans. DG Moore receiver for the bills. Tyler Warren, the tight end for the Colts. Drake May, quarterback for the Patriots. Joe Burrow for the bangles. Luther Burden receiver Craig D'Mews for the Bears. Terry McClureen receiver for Washington. Travion, Henderson on the Patriots. Devonte Adams receiver for the Rams. Giderian Price, the rookie running back on the Siocs. Basel Tutten running back for the Jags and James Williams receiver for the Lions. DK, who's the worst pick in Round five? So I think I wrote down Travion Henderson for the Patriots. I think it's, it's mainly just because this is more of a real rotation with Ramadre Stevenson than I think a lot of the other running backs in this area. Like, he actually had only 45%. Henderson only had like 45% of the snaps last year and Ramadre was like 60%. Now Henderson did outscore Ramadre last year. It was kind of dependent on big plays and touchdowns and catches. Mostly dependent on that. So that worries me a little bit. The other guy that I really circle in this range is Joe Burrow, who I think, I mean, it's

25:34mainly just because he doesn't run. He's not really a runner. I don't, I think he's probably not going to scramble all that much. So he kind of dependent on him having 40 touchdowns to really pay off where you're getting him here. I would rather just wait for another guy later. So I would probably say just strategically, I don't like Joe Burrow in this round. Burrow is great, but he's getting drafted. It's hard for Burrow to do better than being like the fourth best quarterback. And you're basically betting that he's not only his Burrow healthy, but the Bengals offense has to stay elite. You're betting on like, he has to leave the league and some stuff. Forty touchdowns. You're like a staffer. He's a hundred yards. Yeah. Yeah, he's not allowed to have any issues with the offense. But also if the Bengals do the Joe Burrow and two and lose the first two games again, I'm like, last year where they actually didn't and then he got hurt. I had Trevor Anderson too though. Me as well. Did you really? We're kind of in lockstep. Yeah, wow. It's almost like we talked to each other. It's the same thing. He's going ahead of Ramondra and I just think Trevor on his one was one of the worst blocking running backs last year. Ramondra is one of the best. And I just think Ramondra can get the goal. And also Ramondra is a better receiver than people for him. Ramondra is underrated. Yeah. He's really underrated. It's because he's kind of like kind of English, just because he's slow.

26:35Yeah. But he's not. He has actually a lot of explosive plays. I feel like the what? Oh, you think so? I think he's going to be able to see him as like a guy who can really get out on the outside and run back. I think that's the misconception with him. Maybe he's not the fastest guy, but I think he does create quite a few big plays. I mean, he's not as explosive as Henderson by any means. I just think round five for him. I just think I took Henderson in the ringer league draft, but I got him two rounds later. I just think round five is kind of high. I agree. I agree. It just feels too high. He's good, but it's just it's one of its fantasy brain. It's Henderson's explosive and they're like upside. What if Ramondra gets hurt? He had 12 touches a game last year, Henderson. But the part, that's like you're really hoping those are big plays. And the problem with the 12 touches, again, if there's no real great analytics for this in public facing, but it's if a running back is not correctly setting up his blocks to hit the home runs, coaches get frustrated. So Henderson's a home run hitter, but like the kind of home run hitter that hits like your batting average is like 200. Yeah. So it there's a lot of strikeouts, which is frustrating for my brain.

27:37For context. Sorry, real quick. For context, that's that was 33rd among running backs last year. 12 touches a game. 12 touches a game. Do you not think he can improve? Of course he can improve, but it's like he's a smaller guy. I mean, we joked about it, but how small is the name plate on Henderson's jersey? And we're joking about it's a bit. But why? It's because his jersey smaller. It's because he had a different font on the client. He needs a different cut of jersey. Well, and it has a lot of letters. His name is a lot of letters. Yeah, but other guys not a big guy. He's got a lot of letters had the normal plates. It's because the cut of he needed a different cut of jersey. That was the real answer. He's petite. It's hard for Mario Chester. Yeah, basically, of course he can improve in those things, but I think this ranking is implying he already has. Sure. Anyway, I think this is like pricing him as if he's going to be the dominant lead back, I would say. And I think you kind of need Ramon to get hurt for that. So round six, Jen Daniels for Washington, Jalen Hertz, quarterback for the Eagles, Roman Dunes, a court receiver for the Bears, Tucker Kraft, Tyden coming off the 20 seal for the Packers, Christian Watson, receiver for the Packers, Mike Evans now in the 49ers.

28:39Jalen Warren, the running back for the Steelers, Parker Washington, receiver Darling of the offseason on the Jaguars and Harold Fanon Jr., Tyden for the Browns, Ramonja Stevenson, for the running who we were just talking about for the Patriots, Sam Laporta, Tyden of the Lions who has fallen because he's hip injury and Caleb Williams caught back for the Bears. So we loved Watson Evans and Parker Washington in this round, but Dicke, who's your least favorite player in this round? He never asks me. Okay. I was looking up the draft. I was looking at the draft. No one knows what you're doing. I just said, yeah, I just never knew. You're just going to say I'm not going to talk to Craig the rest of the show because he looked at his phone. This habit from last time. I'm Twitter every show. Yeah, he's true. Fine. Who's the worst player in this round? Spun it towards you. I think it's the tight ends in general. Yeah. I think it's Kraft, Fanon and Laporta. I had the same answer. I had Fanon and then Laporta. I think Kraft is, he's a wild card. I don't really know what to do with it. Kraft as much as I love Tucker Kraft. I'm just like the ACL thing. I'm still a little worried about that. This is like that middle tier of tight ends that kind of suck you in.

29:40They're like the sirens when you think they could be Tramik Bride, but they won't. You could probably just wait two rounds later and get the exact same production. There's so many other good players in this round. Just get a joint. What about you? To Juan Johnson. Don Schultz. Any of these guys that could have a higher floor. Yeah, I'm worried about the tight ends. I think Fanon. How pits around later? I'd rather just do that. Actually, I agree with that because part of me is wondering if Penix could get in the ball, but if Penix gets hurt, then I'm like, COMPITS is probably going to lead all tights and tight ends and catches every game to a place. I had Fanon too because it's the same brown thing. Fanon. I should think Harold Fanon. I know I keep saying this, but if he was in New England, I'm like, there was a 10% hall fame outcome for Harold Fanon. He's incredible, but holy shit. To Juan Johnson, I think he's forgotten to throw a football. His football work is incredible. He's got a broken golf swing. He's like borderline yips. I just keep thinking about that when I'm looking at Harold Fanon and the night as Dika, you keep winning out. The Browns do not have an indoor game, the final nine games of the year.

30:42It does look like the Sean's throwing with the wrong hand. It's very odd. You know what? He's holding the ball so long that it's like going at its trajectory, I've never seen it. It's very weird. If you're friend through the car keys that way, you'd kind of be like, what the fuck was that? He's in enough of quarterback. Yeah. I agree. I think it's like that. You know, the, you know, the sound effect, like the horn that goes like, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Every time he throws, I feel like feel that in my head. Okay. What does it sound like? I fucked that up. You nailed that. I thought it was great. That was good. Oh, really? Okay. I thought you were in sarcastic. No, no, no, I actually thought you hit those octaves, right? It was brought to your voice each time. Wow, wow, wow. That was bad. No, because it was good. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Round seven. God. I don't even know how to pick. Round seven is kind of gross. Round seven is where I, all of my biases just come together. It's Kyle Pitts, who is the villain of the podcast and the single most disappointing

31:45prospect since we've been covering football. This is a mess. Then there's Marvin Harrison Jr., who's the other most disappointing NFL prospect since we've been covering football. And we also kind of have grown to just be angry at. There's Colonel Tate, who was already like the overdrafted number one receiver this year and number four pick in the real draft. But like literally, he did he finish with no catches in the preseason? I think on six targets. Yeah. So I'm like, man, even just one would have made me feel good. Right. Like, just one Rico Dattle, who's like, man, you're going to take Rico Dattle on the Steelers. Like that just makes me upset. Brian Tom's Jr., who we literally decided in the rewatchables last year on the season that Brian Tom's Jr. was the most frustrating player to have drafted in fantasy all last year. And then there's Jonathan Brooks, the running back for the Panthers, who literally is nine carries in two seasons and is two ACL tears. Is your nemesis RJ Harvey who you don't like? We have DK Metcalf, who's kind of a difficult player to pick. We have Tony Pollard, who's just kind of sitting there. You have a couple of quarterbacks Herbert and Deck Prescott and then Trevor Lawrence. It's an interesting group.

32:45Are we, is there a world where you should just be buying the dip on all these players? Or is this just a sign that like at this point, you should actually just be looking to? My, my selection was Tony Pollard as the worst pick because I can envision scenarios with almost every other player on this list where a breakout occurs. And that's what I'm looking for at this round. Like, Colonel Tate was the fourth pick in the draft. It's very possible that like, okay, cool. He was the preseason didn't work out. It's the, it's the preseason. It's like Jamar Chase. Like, oh, he's not good with the lines on the ball. I'm like, he's pretty fucking. He could be awesome immediately. And I'd be like, of course, that was stupid for me to think otherwise. Brian Thomas, I could see bouncing back. Marvin Harrison Jr. has like legit upside, despite, you know, everything that's happened. I think RJ Harvey does have upside Tony Pollard. Well, touchdowns last year. Total. I can't believe that. Tony Pollard is just like sitting there as a incredibly milk toast pick that inspires his zero confidence on an offense. I don't think it's going to score. And they might use Taj A. Spears more this year. I'm just kind of like, he's probably fine. I don't think he'll kill you, but he doesn't move me at all.

33:47I do, I do feel like Tony Pollard had more juice. The preseason than I really thought he had left. But I know the run game was the only thing that actually looked good in the offense so far. But yeah, he's more explosive than I thought, honestly. And I, that's the only thing in the back of my mind. There was time when I was 20. Tony Pollard looks like one of the best running bet. That last season on the Cowboys. Right. Before he broke his ankle. Before he broke his leg was he was electric. Yeah, he was one of my favorite players. If you look at his stats, he basically has, he's like Mike Evans. He basically has exactly 1,000 yards every season and like six to touch down. He basically has 1,000 yards and six to touch down every year, which I'm like, okay. So you, you put Pollard, I put Kyle Pits just because of the, I fell for it again, a word, type deal. I'm just like, I'm not. It's truly when he's there and I'm on the board, I'm just like, so you'd rather have anybody else on this list than him in this round. I think so. Wow. I think so. Just because it's, we talked about the offense, we talked about what to expect. We don't know what to expect.

34:47They could be the worst. They could be sneaky. Might be one of the worst teams in NFL. I just think I hate to, I feel like I'm repeating myself over and over, but the Delta in what's going to, we always look at the averages. You finish the number seven title. The week to week variance in the Falcons when Michael Penix plays in anyone else, when Penix plays Drake London might be a top three for us. But when if two, it does play any games, Kyle Pits is going to be like, I think he's going to get two design targets a quarter. Like the amount of plays Kevin's to fancy is going to run that are going to be like, get Kyle Pits the ball immediately and just let him do yards after they put him in a quarterback. We don't know. So Kyle Pits is such a weird player. But also when Penix is playing, I'm like, I don't know, I don't think Penix and Pits has ever been particularly great together. So it's a funny pick. So what did you have? I literally couldn't pick because I was like, I think the answer is Kyle Pits. He's like, I couldn't take him on. I agree with DK. This is not like, this is not expert financial fiduciary advice. This is emotionally, I am not enough of a man to take Kyle Pits and it failed again.

35:52Like I can't handle it. Like I literally, if this guy burns me again, I will have so much self hatred that I literally need to avoid this. I think he's low enough now. I'm like, I think he's the eighth title of the board. It's fine. It's not that bad. Last year he was like, this one's more emotional. This one's more emotional. Oh, he's different. Like, I, the ringer fantasy football league. Like it's like, oh, he averages out to whatever bullshit. He went six consecutive weeks without getting like five fucking points in a game. Yeah. But then I cut him and then he had 40. Sure. Anyway. This one's, this is an emotional one more than it is. It's a most logical one, I think for me. Can we, this is the last time we'll talk about this man. Sorry, I have one last thing in this round. Sure. What are the chances that Marvin Harrison Jr. he's like the most important player in fantasy football this year? He's among the top five. If you had to build out that group, he's in the top five. Where are we exposed? Exactly. Yeah, yeah. What's the hole in the dead? What are these like, we really haven't even considered that he's a great pick.

36:54You haven't even thought about it. I mean, it's been on the periphery of my radar. Yeah, look, right around here, the guys around him, like we said, DK McCaff, it's like, what is his ceiling? Carnival tape. You have guys like Cortland Sutton and Alec Pierce. When I look at those names, I'm like, yeah, why not take a shot at Marvin Harrison Jr. at this point? You know the scene from Goodfellas when Danero is smoking a cigarette and the guy comes in, he knows he's going to kill him. No, no, no, no, no, no. And then his eyebrow just clicks up a little bit. Getting you down. That's how, that's like the feeling I kind of get when I'm like, I'm coming up in the seventh, eighth round or whatever. And Marvin Harris is still there. And I'm like, I'm like pulling a drag on that cigarette and I'm like, fuck, I might take it. Oh, fuck, I think I'm going to take it. Yeah. Oh, fuck, I think I'm going to take him. I don't do that. Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan. It's telling that none of us even considered him for worse pick. Yeah. I, I don't hate him as much as I hate cow pits.

37:56Marvin, I'm still just a little disappointed and confused, but I don't know, cow, cow pits can burn us to. He's still 20. He's younger. He's the same age as him. He's only 20 years old. So, all right, round eight. Chris Godwin Jr. received for the bucket of years. Shroud. Shuba Hubbard, who has a hamstring injury for the Panthers. J.K. Dolan Sutton, the receiver for the Broncos. George Kettle coming up the Achilles for the 49ers. J.K. Dobbins running back for the Broncos. Michael Wilson, receiver for the Cardinals, who we did vow would, we would rank and have ranked higher than Marvin Erison. Blake Korn running back for the Rams. Alex Pierce, receiver for the Colts. Travis Kelsey tied in for the Chiefs. Jackson Dart, quarterback for the Giants. Jordan Mason for the Vikings. A Kalmanung guy running back for the Bears. Craig, since you're so mad, who do you think is the worst pick in round eight? I have Koryl and Sutton are Kalmanung guy. I don't disagree. I don't think I've draft a Kalmanung guy one time because he's like got hurt and- He's been practicing. He had a pretty bad knee hyper extension and is out for multiple weeks. And there's not a lot of reports. I'm just kind of like, why would I take the guy who was like a legit knee injury?

39:02Yeah. I don't know. I'd rather, because this is the round where it's like you're not getting starting running backs anymore. You're getting like one Bs. Right. One Bs are better. Jordan Mason, Blake Korum, even like JK Dobbins when he's healthy. I'd rather have all those guys than Kamenung guy. I think now. And then Koryl and Sutton, I just picked because I'm like, even without Jalen Waddle, Koryl and Sutton was a very average standard pick. And now that Waddle's there, you know, Koryl and Sutton's 31 years old, I'm kind of just like, I find to pick anybody to slip away in that offense. It's him. Maybe that's dumb. I don't know. I mean, it's the same. I think Koryl and Sutton is a lot like Michael Pittman who we talked about in the episode yet, the favorite picks where Pittman is like this boring veteran that could be good in Sutton's like a higher floor player. I, my only fear with Koryl and Sutton is I do think his job is not on the line, but I do think these younger receivers are kind of coming up in the Sean Payton offense and like Pat Bryant could push for that role. And I kind of think Koryl and Sutton might be in one of them like last old man push seasons. But I agree.

40:03I looked at him for a long time. I wonder that appears just because I just can't get over pushing the ankle into surgery two months later. And then I really like, he just returned to practice and I just don't think his legs are the same size right now, which is a thing that happens. And I'm like, that means you're behind in all this. So I don't think, who did you have? I had Pierce. I think it's just a combination of the injury really limiting his preseason, his offseason, the fact that I don't really know what to make of this offense. I don't know how good Daniel Jones is going to be. It's like, there's just too many variables here that make me confident in having him in my lineup. I'm already going to be probably a high variance guy in terms of, I think you have like 47 catches for a thousand yards last year. He was one of the, like in terms of his yards were catch one of the highest in the NFL. So you're really rely on those big plays. And I just don't want to live that life in fantasy. I think he's probably a real life good player, but there's just too many things working against him. I don't, I have like no plans to have him on any teams. Yeah. And also they just on Keenan Allen, you know, Tyler Warren's there, Josh Downs is there. It's the idea that the week to week inconsistencies and furiating it.

41:06I think the combo is this range to your point earlier. Sometimes the average draft position, the rankings don't change as much as they should with news. And it's, we just, yeah, it's monogai peers. Players who are hurt. Again, when week one starts, can you stuff like one week without having injury problems? It's like, oh, I was going to play common on guy and then you're like, oh, he's hurt. I have to add someone that sucks. The only other thing, oh no, I just totally blanked. And then he's around. What else are you looking at? I think Pierce is right. Oh, sorry. No, I found it. Joe Shad, who covers the dolphins, just posted that the dolphins, so the players, the teams made their cuts, right? And everyone cuts their players and then teams, you can claim them. The dolphins had zero of the players they cut get claimed by the other 31 teams, not one player's head. The dolphins claimed seven. Yeah. Players from other teams. So just a reminder, horrific the dolphin. Rebuilding. Okay, round nine. And this is the last one. I think it's like, yeah, all the players are going to get much later. It's more about who you should take the nation.

42:06Round nine is, we run, Zachari Kroski, Mara, a K Bill merit from Washington, who we like, but it's hurt also. Dolten can cave the receipt, tied him for the bills, who is actually healthy, but rarely. Isaiah likely, tied in now for the giants. Bo Nex, quarterback on the Broncos, Quentin Johnson, receiver of the chargers, Matt Stafford, MVP of the Rams and wife, fantasy stupid, is that him and Matt Patrick Maholmes are in this round by fucking McCoy Lemmon. The rookie receiver on the Eagles are behind Dolten, King Gade. Jordan Addison, receiver on the Vikings, Kenneth Gainwell on the Buckingeers, Brock Perty in the Niners, and then Renei and his rookie, Dejon Stribling, receiver DK. Who's your least favorite pick in this round? I put Addison. You don't like him. You hate him. You hate Jordan Addison. I don't hate him. We talked about him before. He kind of reminds me of like early career Calvin Ridley, where he's opposite of a really good receiver in Jordan, just in Jefferson. And he is going to therefore benefit from single coverage and things like that. But he's been really courted. He's been really touchdown dependent throughout his career. Don't know what to make of this offense with Calibur. Don't know how the target race is going to shake out. Addison has never been a player that's really demanded at high target rate.

43:08So it's in the same vein as Alec Pierce, where you're just relying on these big plays and touchdowns. And now we don't know what to make of this offense. I'm just out. It's funny to say that because the one thing I was like, I feel like Jordan Addison and the end zone off script with Calibur is like pretty good. I feel like if Scramble Drill Jefferson is going to get doubled no matter what. I mean, he got benched in London for, I mean, it seems like going out while he was in London because, you know, he was a probation in America, I think. But then he missed with the first quarter and then catches the game and he cuts the water. Yeah, right. I'm not doing that. I'm kidding. I didn't know the story behind that. But then he catches the game when he touchdown and like, he's good in those situations. That's my only fear. But I get what you're saying. I feel like you hate him as much as he's like invisible. I think to me, yeah, that's more and it's also just, I think this is a former first rounder. I had him in dynasty a bunch and he really just hasn't lived up to expectations or my hopes and I'm just like, I don't want him in any redraft because I already have him too much. And he's been a disappointment.

44:09That's just kind of where I am. I really just don't focus on him at all. I don't even think about drafting him. That's so funny. Did you, did you have him there? No, I have the two people who I just never, ever draft or even look at are Bill Marrett and McCuy Lemon. Yeah. Younger players getting hurt's tough. McCuy Lemon, it sucks because we'll first of you had to do the McCuy Lemon. The fuck, it's the snake. Yes. Can we do that on a bench this season? I just, McCuy Lemon's a lot like, Colston Loveland to me last year where Colston Loveland is a really good player. Almost going at the exact same spot and drafts. And a first round pick. But Lemon, rookie, strike one, rookie who missed like all the entire off season program OTAs and most of training camp is strike two. And then strike three is like, there's already questions about Jailin Hurts needing to throw to the middle of the field where McCuy Lemon works and operates in places where Hurts doesn't have a great track, like a pretty bad track record of operating. It's three strikes and I'm like, I kind of want someone else to take McCuy Lemon, caught him after seven weeks and then I'll add him and I feel like McCuy Lemon could be great this season. But like, I'd rather add him for free in November or you could get him for like a, I don't

45:10know, I think he's going to be very, I don't need to go play a lot in September. Yeah, this is like a great late round quarterback round. I also think guys like Quentin Johnston, even Isaiah Leicley, Addison and DeJohn Straddling, all these guys have legit upside to me. McCuy Lemon because of all the things you just said, like I, I, I, the first month of the season, like I don't think you're even going to be able to consider starting him on your own. I would write down right now, like I, we're probably going to trade targets. We try to do it about three weeks into the season because generally no one wants to trade after week one week two, you're kind of like, oh, and then if you start O and three, yeah, that's when people really make trades. If you're one and two or O and three after three weeks, he's a good toss in. Like you make another trade and it's like, well, can you add something else? And he's barely done anything. Like sure. And then McCuy Lemon can like, yeah, I don't want to pay for myself. Yeah. And then Bill Marit, I agree. The washing and the offensive line, the injury that's also stretched just for some reason. He's invisible. He's invisible. I just scroll past his name. If it was, if it was in the platform use, if it said Bill Marit, would you feel better or worse? I think unfortunately, I have, he was undrafted or was he, what was he?

46:12He was a seven-throwner or something. He was a bizarre, he got caught up in the, he didn't play as LESHER college. So he kind of like, it was a bizarre story. Yeah. Yeah, what was, where did he, he was seven-throwner, the 245 pick. But honestly, him and Kyle Menungai, I think unfortunately suffer from late-round syndrome. You know, where it's just like, you can't, I need to see it for twice as long to pull the half as much. Right. And if they weren't hurt, you'd be like, oh, you know what, we're just playing around syndrome. And they're hurt and they're like, just emotions. Like your brain can make the case, but your heart's not at it. Yeah. Okay. So of all those, we're not going to go beyond this because like, there's no terrible picks. I mean, I don't think you should draft a kicker or defense early. I will say, if you wanted to see lots of Texans, we talked about this, but it's worth repeating. If you kind of dread having had a defense each week and you're doing it at 1255 or you're like, oh my god, I didn't really, you're checking your lineup once a week, you can draft the Texans or sea ox, that's fine. Don't do what Bill did and take a kicker early. It's just like your favorite team.

47:12I think that's the only thing I'd say after this is a terrible pick is Dave Chang taking Cam little in the eighth round and the ringer draft, which is a thing that actually happened. He's in said, like, if you didn't watch it, Dave Chang took Cam little in the eighth round, the kicker from the Jaguars, then Bill was like, oh, no, kickers are going to kicker. Kicker run is happening. And that's what in fantasy, again, the argument for two quarterbacks is like two kickers went before Patrick Wombs. Again, we wanted to do two quarterback and then Bill recommended one quarterback. Everybody in the chat said, no one said anything. Well, like two people were like, yeah, that sounds great. We were like, okay, speak now or forever, hold your piece. Nobody said anything. We showed up in the draft. And then Dave Chang is like, what's up? He tried to start a vote. He started a vote. Everyone voted in. He voted Bill to change the title. Bill, like, meekly raises his hand. Like, dude, what the fuck? I literally two weeks ago. Craig, you pulled up his tag. Like August 19th, he's like, fuck two, QB. Let's do one, QB. And everyone's like, great. I literally turned to Dave and I was like, I'm not even allowed to have your phone number. Like, I have to email your assistant.

48:12And I'm like, when I get your phone number, you can ask to change the rules during the fucking draft. I did like when you were halfway through the draft. You were like, so Chang, do I have to email your assistant to get your punishment? He's like, you'd be lucky to email my assistant. I was like, well, that was kind of awesome. He's got a talk shit. Do you think he'll join the group chat? Do you think we should just add his assistant to the group chat? Come on. He can mute it. I'm mute every group chat I'm in. I'm mute every one time. What's the big deal? You want it? It'll be fine. I mean, I'm fine. I'm going to we should add him. Oh, Adam. Okay, what? So you have three. He has his number. I do have his number. You fucking tell him that. Yeah. I was in four like biting his tongue over here. Oh, Adam. I'll call. I'll call. I'll go fuck myself. I'll just call about home. You let me hang out to 12. We're getting dinner tonight, I'll tell him. Jesus. The Ringer Fantasy football show is brought to you by Fandall. Fandall is now available everywhere, seriously everywhere. So Texas, Georgia, Florida, you can finally get in on the action at home, the game, and

49:13whenever the group chat is together watching. Fandall makes sports more exciting because every fan can now celebrate your team winning, or when your group chat calls the comeback. So wherever you are, you can get in on the sports action with Fandall. Download the Fandall app today. Fandall, play your game. Agent location restrictions apply. Product availability varies by market, cfandall.com for eligibility, gambling problem, call 1-800-Gamber. Yeah, so we did the Ringer Fantasy. We're going to go over this. So we did the Ringer Fantasy football draft on Netflix on Friday. It was great. Everyone loved it. Everyone listening was like, we're not supposed to have a hitch. Yeah, no problem. Everyone loved the audio version. Everyone loved the screaming over each other. Everyone in the league, all our bosses. Everyone's so happy with us. No one has any complaints. No, it was perfect. It was perfect. It was worth it. I heard a lot. You can go and watch it on Netflix now. You can just type in Ringer Fantasy football show on Netflix. You can watch the live draft. The audio's on Spotify. And there's really no complaints. I would say went off with that hitch. No, it was good. It was good. The golf thing, everybody was like awesome idea. Really creative. It was super fun. Everyone thought that was great. Yeah. When I decided the draft order by randomize, people didn't like that was random.

50:14Right. You know, people loved it. They preferred picking out of a hat. We'll pick out of a hat next time. That's totally fine. The thing we have to explain other than the total, really, there is no conflict whatsoever. We have to, you guys have to explain what happened to me in the quarterbacks. So this was fun. This was really funny because I actually think I wanted to defend Hyvets a little bit here where everybody, like hindsight, everyone's like, well, Hyvets was so smug that we had to punish him. At some point in the middle of the draft, somebody noted that Hyvets didn't have a quarterback yet. Because we've been saying wait on quarterback. Or you specifically have. Hyvets are the most because you like Kyler Murray, whatever. Hyvets didn't have a quarterback and people were like, wow, Hyvets, what are you going to do? And Hyvets just kind of made with a little bit of snark. 30% snark was like, I'll be fine. And then that was like, that was blood in the water. You think you better than me came out and then everybody was just like, Dave Chang, I didn't let the charge. It's like, what if we all just took quarterbacks? Because Hyvets has the last pick in the draft. So he can't pick for basically 22 straight picks.

51:16And it happened. I think like 12, 13 quarterbacks went over the course of round 10 and 11 and in Hyvets by the time it came back to him, the only quarterbacks available were like Bryce Young and Michael Pentax. Yeah. As your first quarter. They literally took, there were one two Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes, Malik Wells, Baker Mayfield, Jordan Love, Brock Perty and Bonix went consecutively just because people were so, I have three quarterbacks. And then he kept going. I have three quarterbacks. People took that. Joe Goddard, literally ever in a row. I've never seen anything organized quicker. It was like, it's like the Steelers rostering four quarterbacks. Like people were like, fuck it. Well, maybe I'll need a third. Jock Stroud, Berset, Daniel Jones all went and then Hyvets was left with Bryce. So you ended up with, you took Bryce Young and the 11th Michael Pentax and the 13th and you knew the, Mr. O'Rell, if it was Cam Ward. Because I was thinking I've said Pentax would get hurt so many times that man, I bet at Janks did a little bit. The irony is, he's going to be fine. I think Bryce Young will probably be pretty good. Yeah. I came away more impressed. I think it's, I actually felt even stronger. You should go one quarter back because I'm like, I literally the entire league on camera colluded against me. Right. And it was fine.

52:17It was super fun. You had a great time. I get the whole administration thing right now. Collusion's fun. Collusion's kind of sick. Whatever you're going to die one day. Collusion. Who's going to stop us? Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you. You're 80. Start colluding. Yeah. You know what I mean? Whatever. Why not? Yeah. A lot of 80 girls had him on that. So that was fun. That was a good time. What round is that like the 10th round? It was a good time. He took, he took young in the 11th. My one mistake was I do wish I had taken Kyler instead of George Kittle there. But I also did think I'd get away with it. I want lie. I kind of didn't anticipate that. You were pushing it a lot. He was pretty smart. Passing round 10 without a quarterback is quite late. I was hosting the goddamn show. Oh, stop. I should have told you. You should have had the fucking 10th. But I also regret then taking, I should have just like taken no quarterbacks and be like, fuck you guys. I'll be fine. I will say I did feel like that. You know the 50 cent meme is like, what do you say fuck me for? Yeah. Like I just everyone's just like so mad. I'm like, this is not one of the, when I was like, I'll be fine. I was not one of the 100 meanest things anyone said in that thing.

53:20That is the biggest comments that were made that everyone then coalesced around that moment. I was like, what was it possible? The group clearly needed something to bond over. And we found it. It was like hatred. Hatred. You handled it like a champ as you always do. I've always respected that about you. And you'll probably, and you know what? He's going to be fine. Because you waited, your receivers are awesome. You're running back to like you, you have a very deep team now because you waited on that. Yeah, we should go over a team. So God, the voice. Oh, that was the other funny thing. And if you turn on the Netflix draft for one thing and one thing only, literally the beginning is the beginning was like, welcome to your fantasy football league live draft spot powered by Verizon. And I was tough. Yeah. Or is Verizon? I heard Verizon pulled their money. Yeah. So we, yeah, we overized it a tremendous amount of money because I voice cracked on the ad read. So with that said, what do we do? Do we just read all these names? Or is that? I don't know. I know. I'm like, do I go through my team? Maybe just the highlights? People care about our teams. I don't know. So I don't know. I think the obvious answer is boring.

54:22You can look at it online. Go to our Instagram. Do we want to do punishments? Let's do it. Yeah. So again, we're doing PYOP. Pick your own punishment. And again, if you don't have any league, it's basically started because we feel that it's so hard when once you're like, are no longer a shithead person in your young twenties. It's hard unless you have like a very similar friend group to get a punishment that's strenuous enough that people are scared of it, but hard enough everyone will actually do it. And everyone knows people are been in a league where someone just won't do the punishment. And it kind of phrased the group. Like it really does pull up the strings of the court because people are mad they won't do it. There was a little bit. Did you see the van was joking the entire time, by the way. I was sitting next to Van in the strafting. It was like, he was saying, well, it doesn't really matter what I picked because I'm not doing it. Which is why Sal is the enforcer this year. So did you see the onion had an article, an article today like it's actual thing. They said, rest of fantasy league losing patients with member who has other things going on. I mean, it's hard. That hits hard.

55:22So we can all select our own punishments. Do I'm going to go through what everybody picked? Yeah. All right. So the in the seventh round Sean fantasy took no punishment. Yeah, he got ahead of that one. I mean, after that, questionable. We have Chris Ryan selected. He has to go trick and treating not on Halloween and get 10 items from 10 different homes. He was like, I can't wait to do this. I'm going to say hi to my neighbors. Yeah, he's like, I like my neighbors. That's fine with me. Because in Sal has to eat two cold cans of soup of the winners choosing bill has to listen to Pat McAfee's album on repeat for the opening slate of game. He shows that. Yeah. Joe House has to get in full clown makeup and do like five ringer pots. Yeah. No, he's to everyone's pot. Let me get like car wash. I don't know. I go, you know, you know, at ESPN, if you go at like every slot in the TV show, if you are testing and everything, it's like you do the whole thing. So clown car wash, clown car washes, we're going to get actual professional clown makeup for Joe House. And then he has to hit everybody's podcast. Which honestly sounds great. I really want that to happen. I think he will do it too.

56:22For sure. Well, Mallory has to have 76 hot dogs over the course of one month, which we started out saying it was going to be 77 hot dogs in one week. In one week. And that would kill people. Correct. I still think we should have done a week. You literally just want to get. Yes. I disagreed with it, but I was like, if you want to do it, do it. You could have done it. He went from a week to a month. There's some gray area there. Now we're mad at him for not doing it. Now we're fucking living to the host and being the commissioner fucking tankless. Tate selected. He has to, he cannot watch the Super Bowl live and instead has to watch a movie of the winner's change. Right. Which is like kind of brutal. I think it's not the coincidence that Tate's team sucks. Sure. He's a panther fan, right? I mean, that would be pretty shocking. I think Mallory and the Ravens, we were like, there's one to the panthers went to the playoffs last year. We're like, okay. Come on. Just say it. You imagine if you know what we're going to be. I actually don't make Mallory.

57:25We were like, oh, Sal will enforce these and we will. I think we would have to like get Mallory arrested and put in jail for her to actually not watch the Super Bowl. And even in jail should figure it out. Dave Chang has to eat the first chapter of Terry Bradshaw's book. Literally the said he said he's a book. He explained to us how he was going to make me call the burnt sauce. Yeah. So burn up the papers. Yeah, the pages and then turn it into a sauce somehow. I don't know. He's like, I'll put it over a veiled shop and people can eat it. I think we should make you get to the last. Did he invited us on our show to try that? I can't remember. Yeah, we'll have to go on. Do check the table. I'll check the club. Yeah, actually, will you? I'll call. I'll ask. We asked. Then selected the vanilla ice eyebrow slits. He wanted that one. He knows into his eyebrow. Yeah, he might do that anyway. That's why we had to do the punishment thing. That's my nightmare. Oh, that one. Look at my eyebrows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My nightmare is like slits in my eyebrow. And I do it. Who cares? But I think I, because it takes a long time to push the eyebrows to. What if it never came back? Well, that will that be then I'd become vanilla ice.

58:26Well, here's the thing. Do you really have any sense of how long it would take? Your hair, if I shaved your head right now, you kind of know how long until you're normal. You can really. Oh, yeah, pick it up. Is that day? That one is calling me. Oh, let's pick it. Tell me's on the show. No. No. You thought about it. You thought about it. To continue. Want me to answer really crakes assistant? No. DK, if he loses has to wear a bald or sorry, a toupee on the show for a week. Right. Which I think is awesome. That would be amazing. Yeah. I think you actually were really excited to pilot just going to Turkey. It's going to be amazing. I want to have hair again. Would you actually go, would you do the turkey thing? Theoretically, I'm not like against it. I feel like I'm too far gone at this point. Let's say that we got like someone reached out and we got like a sponsor or something. They were like, we'll fly Diki for free. Turkish Airlines. We can make content out of it. Yeah, we can consider it. I feel like our soul's done stuff like that. You can also just do it in America. People don't, you don't have to go to Turkey. Yeah, that's true. What do you do in America? Would you get hair plugs? Wait, they have doctors here? The turkey thing is just because it's cheap. It's cheap. It's like they're better at it. I don't know anything about it.

59:27I just saw the media. Well, they have a lot of reps. That's true. But like, you don't think you could get a good one and fucking Beverly Hills. Like, where did, where did Jason Witt and Belgium go? Jason Witt. Witt was pretty good. That was a piece, I think. I don't know if that's what you pay. I think that was the part of the percentage. Well, look, if you pay for it and you get it all, sure, I'll do it. Well, it's like, I don't think I'm able to do it. I feel like I'm too far to this point. Turkey is like, I think it's like, in 20 grand. I don't know what the prices are, but it's like a hip replacement in Belgium. It's like 12 grand and America's like 60. It's also very difficult, logistically, because I think it takes several months for your hair to grow back. It would take a long time. It looks horrific. It's double in your head. You can't tell your head. Right. I've been Istanbul, Istanbul is nuts. I would have to wear some sort of weird contraption on my head because I don't think you put a hat on at first because it's going to. It's the first person to do this. I'm going to take it now. I'm just thinking. The Google says that it's Turkey, there's two to five grand and then America's 10 to 30. Because then you also get to actually go to Turkey, which is kind of cool. Would you do it? If we arranged this for you, we'd share.

1:00:28No, don't. If you would go to Turkey and get the transplant. I would. Maybe I would consider it. Wow. What if it's not for a month's content? We could probably crowdsource $3,000 in a day. I wouldn't get in there. Bring hair back. So DK took the two pegs. I don't know. I bring it up because I don't know if I'm being serious or not. I can't tell. I saw the face. Like totally against it. took the two pay punishment. And I saw this flicker in your eye. I had these testing. He wants to lose. I missed my hair. My son Calvin has the greatest head of hair ever too. It's just constantly laughing me in the face every time I see him. Well, I'm gonna win. Yes, like fucking rubber redford. Yeah, super ball. Fendered with your favorite wavy hair. I'm like, God, favorite and lethal. Oh. I took, I have to, the next draft, I have to serve everybody hot dogs and cold beer. Well, I drink hot beer and eat cold hot dogs. And then Danny Heifetz has to dress as the hungry caterpillar and eat everything he ate. Have to dress.

1:01:28As he hosts. I just have a, I see in the fire. I know I'm gonna come and last, and I'm gonna be hungry. That will be incredible. Incredible. That'll be incredible. I just, I don't know. I just can just tell I'm gonna be hungry caterpillar next year. That could be a lot worse. That one's pretty harmless. I don't know, wait, it's funny and harmless. So yeah, what is he eating the book? He eats like pizza and fruit. So it's an apple, two pairs, three plums, four strawberries, five oranges. So no pizza? Cake, ice cream cone, pickles, Swiss cheese, salami, lollipop, cherry pie, sausage, cupcake, watermelon, and then a leaf. That sounds great. That's a lot of good stuff. That's all the food. Ending with a leaf is funny. Yeah. Well, you can eat like a piece of a rugular or something. Yeah, so we'll see. I don't know. So those are the punishments. So do you think anyone will actually do them? Well, I think Sal actually will shame people. I think I really believe Sal will successfully shame people if they don't. Yes. We got to put Sal at work on that, whoever loses. He's the enforcement. Yeah. The thing that always happens to me in drafts is I always tell myself I'm going to wait on quarterback and then I don't.

1:02:29That is a good lesson. The other lesson is I'm going to obviously when you're drafting things are just a little different than when you actually rank stuff. And you have to sort of, like when you're on the clock and you really have to make a pick, sometimes it's different than how you have things ranked. So we have to like switch things. Because I think sometimes you assume that everybody drafts just like you. Yeah. And sometimes people just come in with their own convictions and are like, I'm taking Camlet on the eighth round. I'm taking a quarterback in the second round. I don't give a fuck. And then once one person does that, it changes the trajectory of the draft because then everyone's like, oh shit, quarterbacks are now. Yep. And then it's all different. So you do have to be nimble. That is the best advice is like, don't be afraid to abandon your strategy and be nimble. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I would tell people to abandon the strategy, but. But like, some being nimble for sure, I think it is important. Maybe abandon is too strong word or something. Well, pivot. Yeah. Give up on your principles. Just give up. Yeah. I don't know if I told you. Abandon is just a strong band. This is a fucking fantasy football craft, right?

1:03:32The word abandon is fine. Yeah, a band. That's what it is. That's what it is. That's a strong language for such a serious thing. Yeah, great. Be careful. Yeah. I think we've been saying running back, running back. You know, you hope you're running back, send a penalty and you do want to take running back to later that like, you know, you know, like if the prop you up, if the other running backs are gone and you're staring at CD Lam and fucking Jess and Jefferson, you're like, well, I can't do that because I need to take running back. It's like, no, yeah, yeah. If you go the advantage to taking, if I take in like, you know, John Taylor and like, and I, again, the 12th pick, I'll take Jonathan Taylor and like CD Lam, is that you're just more flexible later. Like you are more flexible later. And the other part I'd remind is that this league starts three receivers. And the actual most important thing I'd impress upon people is like, this is a 12 team league that starts three receivers and a flex. So that means that a minimum 36 receivers start every week and a maximum of 48 receivers. But if you're a 10 team league where there's like two starting receivers,

1:04:33that means there's only 20 receivers starting each week. And if there's one flex like a max of 30. So it's probably like gonna be 25 receivers each week. The difference between starting 25 each week and 40 is the difference between like whether James and Williams is even in a starting lineup. You know what I mean? Like he might be on someone's bench if you're in a 10 team with two receivers. So that it's so much more important, I think, to go running back running back if you only start two. But if you're in a three receiver league, it's way more okay to like, you know, it just, yeah, it's just so much more important. I think we all had the confidence that we could find guys later in the next episode. Yeah, just a job. I agree with what you're saying, but also running back is so shallow. And I think why receiver is so deep. I still think you can get away with getting, yeah, yeah. Like waiting on receivers, even if you have to start four of them. And that's, and that's why we all did it. So hopefully all our running backs don't get hurt and we get fucked. Right. Right. It'll be a good year. It'll be a good year. It'll be fun. We got rid of the losers bracket. Now it's regular season loser is the loser, which would not have been the last year. Right. I was gonna say that was the one change we learned. It was like seven and six, but whatever.

1:05:35So we, I didn't bitch about it. How do you guys do this? Everyone's mad about this in the league, but they basically were like the loser who does the punishment should be last place at the end of 14 weeks. By record. And by record. And we do a toilet ball where the final people in the bottom can compete during the playoffs because we're like, you're basically telling everyone just check out. Yeah, it's like something to do. It's like keeps waivers alive. It's like keeps, yeah, it just keeps people interested longer. I think I understand both ways to be honest. Some people don't know. Sometimes it's nice to be like, you know what? I'm fucking done. I'm 11. How am I in our baseball league? Yeah. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't want to get it. Craig is on a fucking spare because there's not. So if you missed the plan 12 and 9, I missed the playoffs. It's fine. You're your own. You're not upset about it. Whatever. Doesn't even care. Put my heart and soul into that team. 12 and 9, you missed the playoffs. And then what was your record when you came in last place? I think I have the same record as Mal. 77. That is you would now have the signal one and you lost it. Yeah, I see for Paul. I see whether and then Chris got second.

1:06:36And he made one move all year. Well, the irony is you're I will say though. Yeah, you were hoisted by your own pittard there. What do you mean? You hoisted, hoisted, hoisted. I don't know what a tart is. Is it hoisted? Because it's you get you get blown up by a grenade. You get hoisted. That would have pittard. Yeah, it's like a bomb. I thought it was a stabby thing. Either way, the reason you missed the playoffs is hoisted. You had a rule that you wanted us to do, which we ditched this year without telling you. But the top four teams made the playoffs. And then the fifth and sixth lots go to the highest scoring points. I do think that makes the it for a more accurate top six. Well, that's why you missed the playoffs. But I wouldn't know when to like anyway, but yeah, we wouldn't have lost the lead. Okay, but wait, hold on. What are we are we doing that again? No, okay, good. We discussed. We should make it clear. No, we're not. We did in writing with a message that we drafted together. Do you have any short term memory? I mean, I remember that message, but I didn't remember if you put that on. I do think that is a good rule. I think that's better for like a lead where it's like a work league where maybe people aren't paying attention as much. It just sounds complicated. In a league where we cannot get anyone to read anything we

1:07:38said hard to be like purpose, we cannot have a complicate playoff role. But I do like it generally. Right. Correct. It protects people who get like completely fucked. They score a ton of points all year and just happen to lose. Okay. I have one email I want to read. Great. And it is from debone. Debone. Who says longtime fan first time emailer. Hi, if this is take that Dejan Love, the 49ers scammer guy, I'm gonna work out. Probably would have looked real in real life is completely wrong. Because I have friends who were playing in a volleyball league on that beach when he was playing when he was doing the drills. No way. He sent evidence. True. And he said and I they saw him working out and in the moment they were texting and saying we cannot believe how bad this guy is. Yeah, terrible. And he confirmed I'm I can't do his name, but he literally has evidence that like he was there and his friend they literally were just like shocked at how bad this guy was. It football on the beach. Yeah. That's really. I'm worried about his. He looks like crap all knowledge about his future football analysis.

1:08:41If he was like his table looks fine to me. Well, not the tape. You know what's funny? The party. You know what the party nailed is. I remember when I worked because I used to work for the Washington franchise and not a job of mine, but one of the things you wanted to do with social media, just like you kind of look at it. Dude, the way he talks on Instagram live, I have to say it's exactly like how every backend roster player does. Like the amount like those guys at the bottom of the roster, they are all on Snapchat and Instagram live while they're driving. But you're just narrating and it's just funny. And he's saying like, no, he was just believable on you. You were like, he looked like an NFL player on saying. There's routes. I'm talking. Ty. He looks terrible. I'm just saying I kind of just was wondering if in the moment people would be like, I bet he's on the night. I'm like, I don't know. I was just curious how many people he could have gotten. Sure. Again, I think somebody who doesn't watch football probably would not know. I will say, did you see the video? That's right. Did you see? Did you see the video where he said, I'm the majority shareholder of a Gucci store in sax fifth avenue? No. He's like, put sax's avenue is not a street. It's sax is a store. Oh, it's a store, right?

1:09:42It's like, he wasn't even. He was really just shooting from the hip. Can you be a shareholder in an individual store? All of it. San Diego, I think Somalai and then also San Francisco. I think this one was in San Diego. I forget where. But so is he going to jail? Like what's happening? Yeah, I think probably. I think the FBI made like a point of it. Yeah. A good lesson. So if you're young, don't steal money. But if you're old, it doesn't matter. You could still impersonate a minor. That's fine. You just can't scam people. Right. Yeah, tend to be a minor. Like, what's the big deal? Well, legally. You can pretend to be a 49er, right? I mean, sure. That's an interesting question. I don't know. That wouldn't be a lethal. What's your end game? There is just kind of just pretending to believe you're a minor. That's it. I'm going to tell you guys, I pitched a thing when Jimmy Grop was on the charges. Remember? That's true. That's true. I hope it's not ill. That's a fact. Yeah. Well, that wasn't a lie. But if it were, you really were on his hand.

1:10:42Yeah. Oh, I've got you now. Move in, boys. Get him. He said it. Ladies and gentlemen. Do you remember I wanted to send Zach Schwartz to San Francisco? Because we joke that it looked like Jimmy G. And then Jimmy G was traded to the Niners. And I was like, I bet we could pull this off. Sure. We could have made billions on that. Sure. We could have. Yeah. But we didn't. If I put on like 15 pounds of muscle and just showed up to random bars in San Francisco, the year Brock Pertie was drafted before he played. And I was like, I'm Brock Pertie. Maybe I get away with it. Well, the answer to your question is the guy who did this for real is Joppa Chamberlain. Was this like phenom pitcher for the game? Oh, yeah, I remember him. He kind of flamed out. But he was like, briefly like the most famous athlete in New York City. And there was this guy that looked exactly like him. And on days, the Yankees were not playing for like a whole summer. This guy just like picked up women saying he was Joppa Chamberlain. And like it worked like for like six months. And then he like fucked up. There was a rangel I had he went during a game. And they were like, no. And they like he was pitching. And then I don't know what happened to that guy. But yeah, people.

1:11:43Yeah. That's like that. Have you ever seen the movie Game Night? Yeah. Not forever. Oh, it's so good. But there's a great joke. So, it's a great joke. No. It's Kyle Chandler and Beatman and Rachel McAdams. It's a really good movie. The more Morris from New Girl, there's a great joke about how the more Morris is wife, who they've been together for like their whole lives. They met when they were like in high school. They took a break for like six months. And he finds out that she slept with a celebrity in the six month break. And he's like obsessed with finding out who it is. And she eventually reveals it's Denzel Washington. Oh, man. Brandon was an in and off. And then it was like, I don't believe you. She's like, sorry. Like, I know you're upset, but it was Denzel. He was like, prove it. And then she showed a photo. And he's like, that's not him. She's like, what do you mean? He's like, that's not that's a watch. Yeah. It's so good. And she like recounts the whole story with him. She's like, we went back to his condo. And he's like, condo. It was very funny. Anyway, game night. Game movie. Okay. So fantasy football dot the rear dot com will update a rankings there.

1:12:44And yeah, episodes in the season. And we have more episodes coming this week. And then also next Monday, take bridge. Take bridge time. We are recording that at the end of this week in person. We're gearing up. How many of them are you have right now in the holster? Like three or four. Me too. And then also if you want to go to our discord. I got one really good one, I think. You can email us, take purges and also in our discord. We have a little take perched channel. That's open for one week and one week only. You go to the regular fantasy discord. Okay. So thank you to DK. Thank you to Craig. Thank you to Nikhil and Cam and Austin and CT, a boo everyone in there. Thank you. But most of all, thank you Lord. Oh. Lennonial banger summer is over. It's September 1st. We argued before we started is it followers and not fall? I know it's technically not fall, but it's September, which feels like fall. So millennial banger summer is over. And DK and I were discussing what the new theme month is going to be. I don't know if we've landed on a title. It's something in the realm of like, the 80s were fucking crazy. Mark.

1:13:45Craig and I constantly joke about how the 80s were the apex of American culture. Yeah, we love the 80s. In all ways, like I'm not saying everything was better, but I also kind of am, but it was just like, it was so authentically itself. It's very distinctive. Yes, it was like unabashedly itself in a way that I just think is fascinating. So we're going to do like the songs that just feel super 80s. Totally. I'm going to kick it off. Okay. And we can like, it doesn't have to be a specific genre. It just be something that really reminds you the 80s. But to me, the song that I immediately thought of was White Snake. Here I go again. And here I go again on my own. Banger. Also White Snake. Sure. For some reason, one of the greatest rock names I've ever heard. That feels like a fake. That's right. Will Ferrell made an 80s like rock movie. Their band would be like, yeah, 100%. I don't know. What's your relationship with the song?

1:14:45I feel like it's in the movie. Old school. Oh, maybe. God, you just look. Look at the font of White Snake. All these guys still have crazy hair. My relationship. They're all, yeah. Okay, they look exactly like what I thought they looked like. They all look like this. So he's like long hair. We got this TV. Hair bands. I really like, first of all, with the song, how it varies so much on, like, it starts kind of slow. It's kind of like, very bad with the ability. The ability is a great, yeah. And then you like hit. Yeah. Yeah. Here I go. Yeah. All of the, you're going to probably, all these songs that we're going to talk about are just songs that I don't know through pop culture. My dad liked all that music. And it was just like random CDs. Yeah. I've just like, great as 80s hits. And it's like White Snake here. I go again. And it's I was lucky enough to live through that. This song was written and released in the year I was born. When 1982, baby off the album, sinners and saints and sinners. Why? That just wasn't even taken. That's incredible.

1:15:45Yeah. The B side bloody luxury. White Snake was a British band. Oh, this is definitely purple. This is definitely purple. I have a known. Hold on. Hold on. I could drift. Wait, wait, wait. On to walk alone. I got like a lot of power. A lot of power. Power ballads from Sarah Tuer about like, lone wolf guys. Yeah. Wait, this is just a fun and a water die. I never realized that. Oh, I didn't know that either. He was like a purple. And I always thought the purple was like a one at wonder from smoke on the water. But he did white thing. I didn't know that. Didn't know that either. It's about a fire and Switzerland at a music festival. Smoke of the water. Really? That's kind of, you know what the fuck you kind of crammed? No, it's fine. I got sensitive about it. What are you talking about? I didn't know that. That's cool. But white snake. White snake is better than deeper. Did your guys' music taste ebb and flow? Because mine really does. Oh, yeah. I can board a stuff. I really have ways to. Yeah. Like, now I'm listening to like Neil Diamond for some reason. Really? I'm getting into that. I don't know why. And then lately, I forget what movie we did. Because it wasn't.

1:16:46We did Boogie Night's Emilean Years ago. And there was something where Bill brought up the 80s soundtrack of a movie. And now I'm kind of like, oh, those like kind of like ridiculous over-the-top hair metal 80s songs are great. They're so good. They're awesome. They're so good. They just kind of rev you up. They're great driving music. Oh, yeah. What was with the hair and the hair band? Like, why did all these guys look like that? I don't know. I'm not sure. Because it looks fucking awesome. I don't know. Do you think that's going to come back? I don't think anything anymore comes back in full swing. It just comes back in fractions. Like, I think right now we are living in like a combination of every era. You know what I mean? Right. There is an artist recreating every genre right now, in a popularly. I feel like it's like you can find somebody making 90s music, 80s music, 70s style music, dressing 70s, 80s or 90s, 2000s. Yeah. Leave your Rodrigo's making like, early 2000s punk right now. Like I feel like everyone's just like doing everything.

1:17:47What was the future nostalgia album? Do you like that? Yeah, that one has like, it references a lot of 80s songs. Yeah. I will say like the fashion that I grew up wearing is now back. Yeah. Like the big, big jeans. I mean, you gotta keep the car in your shorts. You know the band Greta van Fleet? Yeah. I mean, they're just like, I think you should be them. Look at them now. I mean, they look like they're straight out of the 70s. That's like top tier thought it was a person, but it was a band. Yeah. Yeah. That was like, that's my number one pick or thought it was a person. The opposite thought it was a band, but it's a person, Tam and Paula. Yes, definitely thought that was a band. Oh yeah. It's just a guy named Kevin. Oh, it's really a guy named Kevin. He's in the video of him in Travis Scott. Travis Scott's like, who is this guy? This guy is good. Oh, really? Yeah. Kevin Parker, yeah. God, look at these guys. Who lights Nick? Yeah. What an awesome name. Whites Nick. I just can't, I can't talk about it. They all have long perms. Big leather jackets. Just acid wash. Everything's acid wash. So I feel like I don't know anything about a perm. Like how long does the hair,

1:18:48how much maintenance does the perm require? It's a great question. I know nothing about perm. I think it lasts a little while. I think you get, we have a couple weeks. No, I think weeks. Yeah, a couple weeks. It requires so much work. Can you shower? Like how does it work? No, I don't, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. You know when like women used to say like, like you get your hair set? Oh yeah. I don't think you would, I think you would go weeks without touching or washing your hair. Cause that one's the first one. Three to six months ago. I see it on the Google six months. Like when you get like the up new, you know like back in like the 50s. We're even Ben Stiller starts getting hutch style, you know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But we just did Apollo 13 on the rewatchables and like the women's hair in those movies. Like I think they just sit that way for weeks. Both of my parents had perms. Really? The way. Yeah. I love that. Can you email, somebody emails at Ring of Fantasy Football Gmail? Oh, that would have been a great punishment. Somebody has to go for it. Oh, right. Write it down. Oh, right. Next year. Dude, who would be the funniest to get a perm? No one really has long hair. Good question. Good question. Who's the longest hair? Other than Matt. Honestly, I could probably get my hair the longest

1:19:49of anybody. I think you got to do. Who would a perm would be fucking a leaf? I'm just saying I'm not being mean, but I'm like, it's a short list of people that could give a perm in this league. Yeah. It's kind of just you and me. Sean. Sean. Mal. Well, yeah. Uh, Bill could do it. It grows hair out a little off. Yeah. Hi, Fitz, you got to get a perm, man. What? Should I get a perm? Why is it called that perm? It's not perm. I bet that we're going to call it a temp and then don't got it. So they got it a perm and they're like, it's a permanent. Wanted to sell the maintenance. Yeah. She's like, why is it called a perm? Because it permanently alters the structure of the treated hair strands. Short for permanent wave. So it perms the hair, but then the hair grows out. I guess. I feel like people don't do perms that much anymore. No, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, even like that feathered like ferrofoset hair. Crypt. Remember crimps? Yeah. That reminds me of the 80s. Yeah. The 80s. Yeah, let us know about puns.

1:20:49We'll learn. Oh, the 80s. The 80s. Where's the fast? Go just pull up videos of the 80s. Bill Sundance will put stuff on his Instagram and it'll be like Danny DeVito with Earth Wind and Fire on stage. What is going on? This is fucking awesome. The 80s were a fucking time, man. They were like teams making albums back then. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh my god. The Chicago Bears album. Yeah. Like, what the fuck is going on? I think the ramps made one. That's the emails things that happened in the 80s that we wouldn't believe. The people don't know about any of these. Pleated acid wash jeans. Yeah. Tapered. Different time. Goodbye, everyone. I'm. Must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas star casino or 18 plus and present

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