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2:06Coming up on the morning stream, I'm making a nice pasta. These aren't the swingers you're looking for. I'm up all night to get heartburn. Ten different vibes and none of them were good. Serial killer or swinger? Pineapple anyone? This is the John Stewart you're looking for. Come to Randy Land. We moved Catwoman. The wheels of podcasting keep on turning. Definitely not non-alcoholic. Seeking a leather couchtight man. All swung out. Eating eight to 15 raw tortillas. Make me look fancy. Just the right amount of abuse with Wendy and more on this episode of the morning stream. Ready to have fun? Doing what? Well, if you like Kellogg's Rice Krispies Serial, here we have him for breakfast. Then how about making marshmallow treats with this afternoon? Yeah! Okay, go on. When we heard there's a hot cereal with crunch, we said great. The Morning Stream

3:09What do you say? We get nipple to nipple. Hello everybody and welcome to TMS. This is the Morning Stream for September 3rd, 2026. I'm Scott Johnson. That is Brian. Good morning Brian. Good morning. Good Thursday morning to you. Very, very weird feeling week having us just do the two days and then a Friday. Totally. Yes, absolutely weird. But, you know, I'm here for it. Yeah. Yeah, me too. I got up today and went, you know what? I'm doing this. We're doing this. We're doing this today. It is tough though, right? Like you were kind of thinking, oh my god, I just came off vacation. Maybe I could take another day. No, no, the wheels of podcasting got to keep turning. Yeah, those wheels roll whether we're here or not. So we may as well be here. That's the way I look at it. Exactly. Yep. It's good to see you all. Nice to have a little chat going on and what not. We should have Wendy a little bit later. So that'll be fun. Who? We can forward to all that. I forgot to tell you yesterday.

4:11Yeah, two things that were pretty funny about this trip. Excellent. One of them I told on the Monday show yesterday. I'll reshare it here. But it was too good. Too good not to share twice. We were barbecuing because they had these outdoor gas grills you could use at the time share thing we're using. They're covered in a canopy thing. So there's not a lot of sun on you and that sort of thing in the summer months. It's the stuff that's right next to that playground. I told you they got destroyed by the storm. Oh, you got washed out. Yeah. So it's right there. And there's also between us and the washed out thing was this like planter. It was like a long, I don't know about this long, some sort of deep planter. It just had like random looking plants in it to me. It didn't look like anything other than just like this is decoration out here or something. Sure. Was it sure what it was? And so I didn't bother with it too much. But then while we're out there, some guy comes out there and he starts digging in there and he's very excited.

5:12And he's going, I just like digging in the with his hands. He was his hands pulling stuff out like yanking things out. And Kim goes, oh, I think that's a that's like an herb garden. Okay. And I went, oh, that's weird. It's just like a random herb garden back here. But sure enough, she was right. It's got head like chives in it and like a regano and a bunch of stuff. And just stuff that you could use as you're growing back there, like go and hope yourself to some free cilantro or something. Yeah, just hoping no one, you know, peed in there or whatever. You always worry about what people do to public things. But yeah, it's kind of nice. And we did some of the chives after this guy left, but here's the best part. Guy comes out. He looks like my uncle Joel. In that he is a product of the 60s. Still got that really long pony tail that he had. Great. When he, yeah, all the grades can be. You know the look, right? I always totally know the look. There's a very specific look to that. And he has got that look. He's also wearing cargo shorts way too high.

6:12Just way up here. Uh-huh. And like the exact kind of shirt you'd think he would wear with it. Like it was just a steering, walking stereotype. Big giant professor glasses. And he grabs a bunch of stuff and then he turns around to us. And he holds it out like kind of like this in his hands. And he goes, I'm making a nice pasta. And then he turns around, turns around and goes back to the thing. It was great. Awesome. It was great. Oh my god, that's fantastic. I was like so positive. I was going to remember to tell you that story yesterday. And I just forgot to write it down. But there was a lot. We had a lot to cover yesterday. A lot to catch up on. That's great. It was good. No, I'm sure it was lovely. I'm sure it was lovely. I'm sure it was lovely. I bet it is. Yeah. Like an herbie oil pasta as opposed to a sauce-based. Sure. Yeah. And his wife, as soon as his wife, but the lady he was with, I saw to the door he went through, didn't have any of the stereotype of...

7:13Oh, really? She wasn't the female version of the thing we were seeing. Yeah. So I just feel like that guy locked in at some point and said, I'm never budging off of this look. This is what I am right here. Yes. I've moved on maybe from grateful dead concerts to leftover salmon, but same vibe. It was just such a crazy thing to have him be so excited to tell us what he was going to do. Yeah. Making a nice pasta. Like, I bet you are, dude. Yeah. Well done. Sure. But then, then this other thing I forgot to tell anybody was Kim and I are with the pool. We went there as often as we could because we just like a good pool. And we're chilling in the pool. And at some point, or actually we're sitting on chairs and I'm reading a book, Kim's doing a Sudoku thing. We're looking like your typical freaking midlife couple, you know? Yeah. It's in there. And another couple who they looked a little older than us, kept kind of like eyeballing us and like the husband had like a cup full of a drink that was

8:20definitely not, it was definitely not non-alcoholic. Like it definitely had some in there. Some was booze, it's definitely boozey in there. Yeah, I can't explain why I felt that way because I didn't smell it or taste it or anything. I just something about the vibe. Just good tell. And this guy is like tied it up and wearing a trucker hat and just a, and he looked like he's never, he's never worried. One, there's never been a day in his life where he said, I've got to get some SPF 50 and make sure to bring that in my truck. Gotcha. Okay. Do you know what I mean? That like leathery, his skin has been conditioned to handle the elements. Yeah, it's like red leather kind of. Yeah. And then the wife, red yellow, yellow leather, red leather leather. Don't ask me to do it. I'm terrible at that. So he, so she's there in her, he's there in her, in her wife's kind of swirling around with him. And they keep looking at our direction, keep looking at us. And then I catch it and then they'd look away and they, they kind of float around a little bit more and I'm like, they're being weird and I bump Ken and I go, what do you think that's about?

9:21She goes, I don't know, they're just, maybe they think they know us. And so they get a little closer and she finally, the lady finally breaks the ice and she pulls up to the side of the pool, puts her arms up on the edge of the pool and goes, so what do you guys up to this weekend? And I go, I decided to speak, I said, just chilling by the pool. How long have you been here? I go, I go, we got here yesterday afternoon, I think it was yesterday afternoon or around five or something, she goes, interesting, interesting. And then she be quiet for a minute, she goes, said, you have any friends around, you have anybody around here that you're just like hanging out with or anything? Oh God, all of a sudden, is there anybody who will miss you if you just, if you're suddenly, I know, I was getting like 10 different vibes at the same time and none were good. So she kept fishing like that, questions like that and comments like that, kept going and going and going and I was just kind of like really nonchalant like,

10:25yeah, we like it here, we're like Moe abs cool. And then she asked something about where's your favorite place to eat? I'm like, well, we haven't really been anywhere yet and you know, she just kept going. I have some toast I could recommend. It is a toast place, you need to check out that. How do you feel about toast? I have a place I could recommend. Yeah, toast. So she goes, she kept doing it and eventually I think I said something. I don't know what did it. It just felt like it like a light switch turned off. Like I, I don't know what it was I said, but whatever it was I said made her go. No. And then go away. Yeah. And it wasn't, I wasn't rude. I didn't say anything like mean or I didn't ignore or anything. I think I just maybe said, yeah, we're here for our anniversary and I don't know. I think I made it sound really wholesome or something. I can't explain what this was. But she just hoping maybe there's a little bit of lessiviousness. There was a little door opening. Yeah, basically I think these people were swingers.

11:26That's what I think. Yeah. And they were, let me put it this way. We're not in that market, okay? Sure. We're not swingers. But of course, if we were, we keep shopping. This was not, these were not the swingers. These are not the swingers you're looking for. Yeah, exactly. Like they were really, you know, just find normal people. But if you're going to ask, if you're going to, if you're going to ask me if I want to enter that lifestyle. Yeah. Yeah. You got to give me a better floor model to work with. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's what the, you, everybody's got to, it's, it does just because you're with somebody and you're swinging doesn't mean you're, you've changed what you find attract and what you want. Everybody still has their like, no, I'm looking for, you know, the Zawidation L type. But I'm looking for the, the NG Indigarcia type or something like that. Then, you know, I'm sure somebody would say I'm looking for the,

12:29the skin cancer looking red leather type. I'm looking, I'm looking for the dude that looks like a pullout couch. Yeah. Yeah. That's now on the curb. It's getting the someone's trying to get rid of it. Like that was the bad. Right. Right. And then nothing from them. It's a baseball, man. She, and after whatever this was, this final bit of interaction, she kind of just goes, swoosh and just swishes away. He follows and then never a peep out of those people again. I'll bet that you said something like, yeah, just see what happened with the storm into that playground. Man, just destroy the place. I hate swings, man, swinging. I really, I hate swinging. So I'm okay with that playground getting, uh, getting washed away. Yeah, every time people get sad when there's no playground, but me. I love it when there's no swing and going on. No swing. No upside down pineapples here. Is that still thing? I don't know if that's still there. I have no idea. Is it upside down or is it just pineapples? I thought it was upside down, I thought. But maybe it's just just, you're not just, you're not conflating upside down pineapple cake

13:31with upside down pineapples and swing and find that. Even Dumber, I might be confusing it with those, uh, Brazilian beef meat places where they you flip the little thing to see. Oh, yeah, yeah, I might be doing that. Troscaria or whatever they're called. Yeah, yeah, failing, failance is upside down. Okay, so I guess that is it. It's, it's an upside down pineapple. So do you, do you, do you like get the pineapple if you're swinging and then you turn the pineapple upside down when you've had enough swinging for the day? I mean, I mean, I hope so. Just like the, just like the Troscaria, you just say, okay, yep, that full of swinging today. We had to, to the pineapple upside down two neighborhoods ago. We had neighbors that were apparently into this and, um, did the, I guess had like in their car, the air freshener is a pineapple, but it was flipped. Okay. They purposely like made a new hole on the other side. Yeah. And, uh, and I'm gonna like that.

14:33Yeah, no kidding, right? And we never, we never really talked to those people. They were kind of two blocks away or whatever, but we would hear these stories, man. And it was just like, what are people up to over there? It just seemed really foreign to me, but I don't know. These, you know, they, whatever. Good luck to them. I hope that they, they struck Peter while they were, while they were in Moab. I don't know who they would have found, but, uh, I know for quite a while we had listeners who also did their own podcast, the average swingers podcast. And they were such a great resource of like, yeah, tell me about this lifestyle. Who? Okay. Cool. Glad I'm on this side of it. But good for you. I'm glad you guys are doing well with it. And, and that sort of thing. Shout out to Rhino in the chat who said swinging sounds exhausting. He made a really great, uh, Moab a joke here. I want to, I, if I wanted to disappoint two people, I'd go gank my bot lane. Dude, that's amazing. I get that reference. Yeah, yeah. It's good. We got gamers around here, everybody.

15:34We all know. We know it's up. Anyway, that's how that all went. That's funny. Well, it's a good lead into the, uh, I'm continuing on my Marvel, uh, rewatch of stuff. Um, I did the, I followed the good. Good. I did X-Men and then X-2, um, X-Men United. Then I went into right into, uh, Captain America first Avenger and then the Avengers. I forgot how good the Avengers is. Yeah, it is. Everything but Captain America's uniform was good. I hate that. Yes, yes. But you know, they had to start somewhere. But, uh, I mean, Marie Hill and, uh, um, and Colson and all that stuff. And I've been burdened with glorious purpose and all that. Um, Hulk chasing the widow around his office. Yes, through the, the geez, just the, you know, that whole destroying the bottom of the helicopter with the Hulk fight. Yeah. Um, and then I said, well, the next thing it wants me to watch, it wants me to go right from Avengers,

16:35right into Avengers Infinity War. And I'm waiting because I'm seeing on the 25th or 24th, I'm seeing end game on core, um, with has all the new bonus footage that leads right into Doomsday. Um, not at the Almo, by the way, I'm seeing it back at a frickin AMC theater because Almo is listing it. Oh, where is it? Did AMC secure some kind of rights or something? So I think, um, I think Alamo just probably said, yeah, we don't need to, we've got our own old movies. We want to show again. I see. So wait, this isn't a double header then. They're not doing Infinity War right into end game. It's just a game. Okay. Oh, now they're showing it. Avengers in game on core 6 p.m. on the 24th. Oh, I'm going to try and get tickets for that because I'd rather see it at the, I mean, obviously, I'd rather not pay for it. Well, yeah, plus, plus, it's just your, it's your place now, man, you're used to it. It's my place. Yeah. And the thing is I want to see it.

17:35Yeah, on the big ass screen. Anyway, I'll do that later. But, um, so I don't want to watch Infinity War and then have to wait two weeks for end game. Yeah. Um, so I went right from Avengers into Iron Man 3. And, um, I forgot, you know, it's, it's not certainly not the strongest of the Iron Man films, but I forgot how much of a really good storyline it was. Yeah. Tony having, um, all the, the PTSD from the wormhole from, you know, the New York battle. Mm-hmm. And interacting with kids and stuff. And he's just, you know, they make that character so good with the kid. He's great with that kid. That kid is great. That kid is a great, that kid is a good actor. Yeah. Yes. Kind of hinges on him doing a good performance and he really kills it. Really is. The whole thing with the, you know, extremist and, um, you'll never see me coming. Guy peers. Yes. God, I love what they've done with Trevor Slattery since then.

18:37Yeah. And, and you still need to make sure you watch Wonder Man, even though it's only one season. Yeah. Crime. Yeah. Um, that's still a great season. And, uh, God, he's so good. So that's confirmed canceled. They're done. It's confirmed canceled, which blows my mind. Because it's, it got an Emmy nomination. It's like, it's done the best, uh, critically of all of the Disney plus Marvel stuff. So I can't understand why I must have been really low watch Raider something. I guess. Yeah. That sucks. It does suck. I've seen it and I'm mad at him, you know? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, make something good and then keep making it. Why do you do that? You'll be even matter when you see it and say, oh my God, this thing is so good. Why did I, why did they sleep on it? That's it. Yeah. I was going to say about that. I forgot. I forgot. I had something I was going to say about where you were headed with, uh, what you're going to see now. I was going to say, people can say whatever they want about three Iron Man three. Mm-hmm.

19:37It's so much better than two. Two is bad. Two is bad, right? Because that was the one with the, um, uh, his drinking and, and that whole thing. That flash was, was, you know, I like that and, uh, Sam Rockwell elevates everything he's in. Yeah, that's not cool. Um, but you're right. That one is, it was just, I'm weird. There were things that I was expecting to see in three that I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess that was in two, the whole Sam Rockwell side of things. Um, that's the, that's the one where he uses the suitcase suit. Yes. Into, right, right. Yeah. He's at the race track or whatever and, uh, whiplash starts whipping. Uh-huh. So it's slicing race cars in half like there's stuff to like in, in two. It's just two feels mushy and uneven and, um, I don't know, and like to three, I like three, just fine. No, it's fine. Yeah. And seeing all those suits, man, that was badass. That's really badass. It's so cool, especially when they do that in three, obviously, with the whole, uh, uh,

20:37the, the final battle, which is, you know, 14 different Iron Man, empty Iron Man suits, uh, fighting alongside Tony and. That was the shame, shame black direct. Shame black. Yeah. Yeah. I like, I like shame black movies. I'm down with it. Yeah. Uh, so what's next then? You're off. That's where you ended or where you end up. No, I'm going to keep going. Um, but I'm not going to do everything. We saw dark world recently, you and I for couch party. So I'm not going to do that one again. I think I will watch Guardians of the galaxy one and two again because those, they're just so much fun. You know, it was, uh, they're all timers, man. Yeah. It's, uh, some of my favorite Marvel stuff. Um, I would argue the Guardians of the galaxy saved the DC universe because they were so good and so successful and put James gun on and like perfect light that everybody went, oh, shit. We should spend all this money and hire him over here because man, am I, I am, I'm enjoying lanterns so freaking much.

21:38Oh, it's so good. I love it, dude. I love the vibe of it. It's just great in this, this, uh, flashback episode, uh, this last one. Yeah. How they're doing time jumps is great. Mm-hmm. Usually that sometimes hits me wrong. These are working for me. They're really. And what's her name that was in this new episode? I'd love her. She's in everything. Yeah, from, from Hamilton. Uh, she was Peggy. Peggy. Yeah. You, um, I can't think of her name. She was in, uh, she was the wife in, uh, Truman show. Oh, Laura Linney's. Laura Linney. I heard you're talking about, um, uh, John, John's mom, uh, who's Peggy and Hamilton. Oh, you know what? I just screwed up. When you said Hamilton, I thought my head went, it's John. John went, no, it went John Adams. And, and what's her name from Truman show that you just mentioned? What's her name again? White lady, please. Laura Linney. Laura Linney plays, plays John. Adam's wife. Oh, canabelle or whatever name was.

22:39John Adams. Oh, it's so good. Dude, it's so good. Yeah. I know. I need to, uh, to, to watch it. Hell of a hell of a thing. But yeah, anyway, they're just going places and I'm into it. Cool. And this is great. This is Aaron Pierre guy. Okay. Look, I like the ladies. I'll tell you that. You know that of me. I like the ladies. You can, you can say he's an attractive person without qualifying. He's more than that. Nobody is going to, uh, he has the dreamiest eyes. Yeah. He's a very handsome man. And he's convinced me that this is the John Stewart we were looking for. To be sure he will be that for whatever the future of the DCU is in for his time there. Use him as much as you can. Yeah. The movies get him in more seasons of lanterns. All that stuff. He is awesome. Someone said they are contacts. Luke Skywalker. I don't think so. And the other movie I saw him in with Don Johnson that uh, Southern Revenge thing was, I came over to the name of it. I'd recommend it here on the show.

23:40He was, he has the same big, beautiful eyes in that. All I'm saying is in Britain, they know how to make very handsome black people. I don't know how they do. Yeah. I mean, listen, Interstellar is kind of on my list that if, um, if, if, uh, you know, if I did ever decide to dabble, uh, and I had a completely open menu, uh, might start with Interstellar. Why not? Yeah. Might start an end with that guy. Yeah. I probably snap me in half. I love it. I love it. Well, all right. So, uh, um, but you're getting there. You're going to be, you're going to finish all this and everything is going to be good to go before. Yeah. I'm going to try, I'm going to try and end with, um, um, Infinity War right before I go see, uh, end game on core. Nice. And now, and, and what was great is with the AMC, I could go see end game on core at three o'clock in the afternoon. Tina's working. She's like, yeah, you go see it without me. It's totally fine. I'm looking at the times for, uh, Alamo and there's a five o'clock show in the big theater.

24:44Uh, which means Portina is like, instead of me going and seeing that and being back home cooked dinner, whatever, I think I might be gone for dinner or I get her a ticket and, um, and there's just that, which I think I might do. Yeah, yeah. I, I mean, I'm going to reserve a tigger right now for. Yeah, lock it in. Lock it in. Lock it in. Every, if it's open, then I'll put, uh, my giant tub of popcorn in the seat next to me, just kidding. Popcorn. I've discovered that popcorn and chips and salsa Mexican restaurants are my, my, Kryptonite, my downfall. Same. I won't stop if there's a infre, in front of me. Exactly. And like, if I, you know, I can watch my, I could get on the scale every morning and I can watch my weight go down, down, down, down, down. And then we go to a Mexican restaurant and I'm like, yep, I'm only in half my burrito. I'm going to take the rest home, but don't forget about, you know, the, the chips and salsa. If you think about it as, all right, I'm eating chips and salsa for every chip.

25:46I'm eating a quarter of a tortilla. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Would I sit, would I sit at a table and just eat, uh, eight raw tortillas? Yeah. One right after the eight to 15 raw tortillas and, uh, a ton of salsa, which is full of, you know, some good stuff, but there's like sugar in there. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a misleading thing and they keep bringing it to you. That's kind of like, oh, can I refill that for you? No. Give me this prediction. Right. Do you predict that this encore deal gets to be the new version of the movie streaming once this happens? Me without a doubt, without a doubt, but probably not until I would say two weeks before the release of Doomsday Disney plus pulls the, you know, hits the button and switches the current endgame that's on the service to be this new endgame. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. All right.

26:46I think that's true. Why wouldn't that be dumb not? Right. Exactly. But I do feel like it's going to be, you know, it's, it's basically Disney's way of saying, hey, uh, what this does for us is it says, remember all that king stuff that we did? Yeah. Yeah. Forget all that. Boop right into Thunderbolts Fantastic Four in Doomsday. That's all you need. Yeah. Skip right over it. Just skip right over. You know, do any of that? It's so, um, I don't know. I don't want to be, I don't want to beef about it too much, but I know. There's such a soft. There's a great part to the multiverse saga, but, uh, just like a soft tissue part of a strong muscle. Yeah. We're got a little weird murky and it did and they forgot, they forgot what made the first the, the, uh, infinity gauntlet, um, phase, uh, what they call that first phase, these one or phase. Yeah. There was some name to it like the infinity gauntlet phase or whatever, but how all of the movies ended with, here's more Thanos kind of progressing, showing that he's developing

27:49the background and then, uh, infinity saga and then, but, uh, multiverse saga is like, Hey, look, we've got the kid from one direction now and we've got this character and, hey, who's for Gweez, Ted Lasso, boobah, boobah, you know, stuff, stuff like that. Just got goofy to the point where multiverse has this problem, even in the comics. Like it's, it's just cluttered and, and convoluted and, and kind of unsatisfying in the end. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know why they decided to tackle that so hard. There are plenty of storylines I could have lifted from, I don't know, I don't know. I kind of get it on the one hand and then I, there's part of me that's like, why'd you guys do that? Um, excited for them to get back on track after secret or as I say, okay, now we're focused. It's the mutant saga. Uh, we've already got a couple, you know, we've, we've already introduced one, no spoilers and we're going to keep on going, but I'd love to see, love to see some of those great

28:49Claremont storylines adapted for, um, for the big screen in the right way. Yeah. Bring it on. More Claremont. Less, uh, I don't want to throw it under the bus. Let's ratner. Let's ratner. You know, that's a good, that's a slogan for all of Hollywood. Less right now. Less ratner. Yeah. I mean, I've seen last stand. It's garbage. Yeah. Uh, all right. Well, let's get into some news stories before Wendy arrives and, um, we'll see what we can dig up here. It's the news and it's brought to you by, it's brought to you by Coverville. We'll have a coverville right after TMS today, uh, celebrating the birthday, the 80th birthday of one Barry Gibb, the last remaining BG, last living BG. Um, I thought we lost all the Gibbs. I didn't know that. I thought all of them are still around. He's, uh, he's 80. He's born in 1946 on the aisle of man, of course, because, you know, you look at that beard and that feathered hair and what else do you say?

29:50That is an, I love man. Uh, but, uh, covers today, um, of the BGs by folks like Les Claypool, the polyphonic spree, uh, baby spice, the wall flowers, Chumbo Wamba, uh, goodness, Hanson. I mean, you know, if, if, if Dexie's midnight renters, listen, you don't want to miss this. There's some really wacky stuff in today's episode. That sounds awesome. Yeah. And I think of Barry Gibb. Yeah. I think of this, right? Obviously, this is, this is your very good. That's your very good, right? Like that is, you know, what we, what women defined in the, uh, 70s and 80s as there's a man right there. Yeah. There's a man. He looks, Chris Christoffer sends another one. Yeah. They all had this look. Kenny Rogers. Yep. That feathered hair early Sam Elliott. They all look like this closely cropped beard exactly. Yep. Now he looks like somebody who maybe wants to sell me AARP, uh, membership stuff.

30:55I mean, you know, you have any goal you'd like to sell? I mean, he kept the hair. That's cool. He did. Or tried. I think it's a little thin. Try to. But, uh, you know, I live in that room as well. Exactly. By the way, we talked a little bit about swinging earlier. Robin Gibb. One of the beat, yeah, one of the BGs along with Morris. Robin Gibb had an open marriage. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. Is it the one that was married to the British, um, pop lady? Oh, what was her name? Well, here are the three of them. Which one's he? Robin Gibb is, um, uh, in the middle there. Okay. Is the, uh, is the one on the left with the hat. Okay. I think Maurice is the one I'm thinking of. I've married the British pop lady. And that was a weird relationship. But not as far as I know it wasn't open. Yeah. Molly Hollis and Dweena Murphy Gibb were, were Robin Gibb's wives. Let me see who Morris.

31:55Yeah. Look at that. That name is going to jump out of me. It's who's a hero. Exactly. I know it's, it looks like it should be pronounced Maurice. But it's, um, Oh, Lulu. Yeah. Lulu. Yeah. That's her. Yeah. She was interviewed on some. I don't remember where I heard it. She was really good interview. She cracked me up. Oh, she's, and she's, God, she's such a great singer. Yeah. Still around doing her stuff. Um, she is. Yeah, she's still alive. Yeah. 77. But I mean, look at so. Okay. Just this quick shot here. Yeah. Yeah. Look at Barry. I mean, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, yeah. Some man. That is like it's here. He's a Marlboro man. Basically is what he is. Since he's singing, you want to run away though. Two things. Yeah. You're like, what the hell is coming at him? Exactly. Um, all right. That's all well and good. Let's go with that right after TMS that Twitch TV slash cover bill. There we go. Yeah. If you're alive, we'll just do a raid. So you guys can head right over. Um, a woman has livestreamed herself vandalizing a World War II memorial before asking viewers to

32:56quote, make me look fancy. Oh, geez. Yeah. I love this one. This is great. And by love, I mean, hate a Kentucky woman, allegedly live streamed herself, vandalizing the World War II memorial before asking viewers to edit the footage to make her look fancy and spread it across the internet. Melissa Ferris, age 41 of Elizabeth Town, Kentucky, not to be confused with. There's another one in Pennsylvania or something. Right. But they're multiple. I think so. Right. Yeah. Like, uh, I think it a Alan town. Well, there is an Alan town, Pennsylvania. Yeah. I might, I might be confusing that. The song and everything. Yeah. Elizabeth Town, the only one I think of is Kentucky, because Tina drove through there when we did a, uh, Kentucky, Tennessee, hit a bunch of newspapers, but we turned it into a vacation trip and went to Dollywood and all that on the same trip. Kim wants to do a trip to Dollywood now. Oh, sure. Because of all this. Well, we do. We should swing through Texas and go to Frank Beardy would. Because everyone in all of these famous deaths recently, everyone's

34:00forgotten about Frank Beard. We forgot about Frank Beardy. Yes. The beardless member. Well, a busy top at least for a while. He did grow beard for a while, which is like, don't do it. Dude, don't succumb to pressure. Yeah. Your name is Frank Beardy. Be the only one with no beard. That's right. Exactly. Anyway, I pour one out for poor Frank Beard. Anyway, uh, this lady's in trouble. She, uh, let's see each federal, uh, or each federal felony and it gets counted every time she did something to this thing. Carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison. Uh, right now they're just allegations. She's not been convicted. But anyway, she maintained the public Facebook and Instagram accounts under the name Melissa Love, Love Well. Sorry. I don't like that name. A screenshot included in the federal criminal complaint showed her Facebook account with about 878 followers, where she described herself as a digital creator. Oh, geez. Okay. I hope they throw the full book out and she gets like three decades. Absolutely. So I'm like looking at this. What is she? Um, does she spray pain? I'm seeing, yeah, orange paint spelling hands clean, spelling out clean hands

35:00dirty money on a wall. Yeah. She has some message and pink paint. She's got some message to tell, but you know what? You're going to do that on a World War two memorial. Yeah. And not expect repercussions and you're filming it. It's wrong with you. I mean, she did, if she did that in front of the wrong people and, and by wrong people, I mean, the right people to be there and see her doing it. Yeah. It'd be, it'd be the wrong people for her. It's basically what it is. That is, and that's such a cool, that one was a cool memorial. Oh my God, Tina and I, we got there right at dusk. That was actually the one that I crashed my bike. We did that bike tour around the, oh, yeah, the memorials. And it was getting dark and I was following the, the lead dude. And somehow he missed this giant hole, this giant dark hole in the lawn. And my friend Tyra just went in there and just stopped me instantly. Oh my gosh, dude. Yeah. That's fine. I got up and I was laughing. He's like, oh my God, are you okay? Do we need to call some like, oh no, I'm fine.

36:01Bike work and still. Yeah. Great. Good. Keep on going. Keep it up. Keep it up. Colorado boy. They say exactly. All right. Well, there's that. I hope they throw the book out. I absolutely throw the book now as many books as you have all the books you have. That's right. Now we're going to throw the mental health book at people. Something wrong. Batman. Has anybody seen Wendy? Well, she's right here. Unfortunately, she had to listen to our entire new story, but she's here. She's it. Hi, Wendy. What's your thoughts about it too? Hi. Hi. Hi. How are you? Hey, good. Real quick. I just want to add a land for people to go to if they're interested. Oh, give us a land to go to when you're in Pittsburgh. It's called Randy land. Okay. And you go move. Catwoman. You just you wander around outside. He has painted. He's a guy with autism who has painted a million amazing signs and like it's incredible. I'm looking at the site. Oh my gosh. Look at that.

37:01It's wild and you know, Pete lives in a Pete, Abel is in Pittsburgh now. And so Adam and Abe were able to, you know, chat with the guy and then Abe's been back. And it's like it's a tourist trap now. And he's always outside ready to talk to. He's the cutest. And anyway, it's impressive. Wow. I'm blown away. I'm looking at the website. There that is some of the most colorful stuff. Did you just own this little zone here? Like, okay. I think I think he just inherited the property and has just like, I think it can't stop painting. And there it is. He has, he has an incredible sense of, um, one thing that's hard in color theory, no matter where you're doing it, digital or paint or anything is getting, like if you're aiming for brightness of colors, it's actually hard to mix for it. It's like tricky. Your eyes don't like, I'm bad at it. I'm terrible at it actually. This guy's freaking nailed the concept. Just beautiful contrast. I need to be autistic is what I'm saying.

38:03Yeah. You really ought to ask your game. Yeah, I really need to improve it. Yeah. Where do I get that? Where do I get, uh, Wendy, do you have, you know people? Let's get that done. You know a guy who can be hot too. All right. Let's get to our time with Wendy. It's therapy Thursday. A chance for Wendy to use her real world mental health skills and help you guys with your problems when you write them in. This is an interesting question we got this week because, uh, that's just not what I expected. Um, I'll read it and then we'll talk about it. This actually came from Omega 9. He seemed to be fine with us using his name. He's in the chat today. I believe. Yep. There he is up there. I says, uh, hey show and Wendy. I guess we're show, Brian. That's fine. That's fine. Yeah, I'll take it. Yeah. Might not be enough for a therapy Thursday show. Oh, it is. Uh, but I have this question and have had it for a while. Every Thursday seems like a downer. So many people have so many different dramas when you are the person that they come to with all of the drama. How do you separate yourself from the emotional trauma? Kind of rhymed. Uh, just listening is hard enough sometimes.

39:04I can't imagine doing it every day as a job. How do you quote, leave the office at the door? Unquote. Is it something that they teach you in school? Just wondering, love the show. Love what you do says Omega 9. Um, really great question. Mm-hmm. One that, you know, if when I first I read, I was like, well, let me tell you, Brian, I every Thursday. Anyway, prepare ourselves right there. But Wendy, as soon as we stop reading these weird news stories, we don't take them home with us. Yeah, we just leave them at the door. But uh, Wendy is a whole different bag of chips. Everybody she talks to is, you know, and this is I guess therapy 101, all the therapists are hearing sometimes the worst things ever all day. Yeah. Yeah. So how do you, how do you guys do that? I think this is super interesting. So I guess we'll see how much of this too. Yeah. I bet her job always runs into this, right? Lots of it. Yeah. How does she not bring that home to Brian? So Wendy, what do you, what do you do to keep it out of Adam's, uh, flossing face? Oh, well, that's huge. Where it goes. So no, actually, can we start with Tina?

40:04What, what, how does she do it, Brian? Can you, can you share her secret? You know, uh, she is just really good about compartmentalizing stuff. And so, uh, for those who don't know, Tina is, um, she manages, um, an adult protective services team for the county. And what that means is she's dealing with a lot of, um, elderly people who are getting exploited, but also people who've suffered, uh, traumatic brain injuries or have other, um, developmental difficulties that are getting exploited or mistreated or, um, abandoned by their family, uh, that sort of thing. And so she sees kind of the worst of people in a lot of ways, um, at times. And, and uh, the stories that she tells me, she does tell me the story. So it's not like she completely shuts it off at the end of her day, but sometimes the story she tells me like, God, how can people treat their family like this, even if there's like some, some disagreements or maybe a strange minute or things like that, just treating

41:11another human being the way they're treating, um, family members is, is amazing. And taking, uh, kicking them out of their own house and taking and selling their stuff and things like that. But Tina is really, has always been really good about none of that emotion and drama leaves the office. And she comes home, she'll tell me about her day. Um, you, doesn't get Terry about it if it's a sad story or doesn't get angry or well, sometimes he gets angry. And that's the one part of it she maybe brings is the, if she's angry and she's reeling the story to me about the way somebody treated their elderly grandmother, then she'll, you know, the end girl come out then. But she, it's a great discipline that she's just able to say, yeah, that happened at work. I'm not at work anymore. I'm not thinking about it. Hmm. Meanwhile, I'm sitting there over dinner like, God, how am I going to fix this SEO problem with this? I'm clive, clive Iowa. And I've got a shower. It helps. Actually, it helps that you're not also reeling with this stuff.

42:15Yeah. It's a little bit of a difference. Yes, for sure. Oh, I've got to watch this dumb movie for film cycle. I'm guessing there's some situation where there are two full time working cognitive therapy people in a household. That seems almost like untenable. How do you, how would you even handle that? Like, if Adam was like a full time one of these and you guys, that's all you guys did. That's one of these. That's just seems like disaster to me. But maybe this is the part that we're going to learn today is how part of what you guys do is putting it to the side when it needs to be put to the side or whatever. So. Yeah. I mean, you have to, you know, Tina wasn't born yesterday and is now able to do this. And nor was I. Right. Like, there is a learning curve to it, for sure. I think some people, it's like more or less easier to figure that out. And then you have folks who like, it is, it's just not feasible.

43:16Right? Like, they're two, they're too sensitive. It's going to be just too traumatic for them. You know, maybe there's a different way to be Hilbers, right? Because at the end of the day, Tina is helping people. And I am helping people. There's no powerlessness in it. And I think there can be overwhelm, right? For sure. There are days where I had, this happened literally other day. I had multiple suicide situations of just people really on the edge. And there's a lot more work I need to do, like involve family and, you know, make sure they're safe and get people to hospitals and resources, you know, so it's just a lot more work. And, and it's serious, right? Like, I'm not, I don't get to laugh. And I mean, there's still some laughing. But it's not, it's not like I'm here for the comedy, but it is very much like, dang, here this is real. And it's go time and we got to get you safe and that kind of thing. So it's, it's pretty intense. And I afterwards, I walk across the street where a couple of my neighbors are all hanging

44:19out. And I was like, I just need to talk to somebody, not suicidal. And they all went, well, maybe this isn't a good time because this person, and they start listing like, well, my alcohol accepted, I need to be in rehab. And then the other ones, dad was dying. And, you know, and I was like, it's fine. This is normal sadness. I just don't want to. I don't. Yeah. And that's just the truth. They were like, we were just talking about everyone's falling apart. And I'm like, well, that's every day in my world a little bit. But when it's outside in the real world, that's, that's hard to. So, you know, sometimes you just need the opposite energy. And now I've learned my neighbors don't bring it. But it's comedy or it's finding a counterbalance or having a partner who's like, well, I just couldn't get the design right. And the user wasn't happy or whatever Adam stuff is. It's just not. I think Adam's doing fantastic. Yeah. Whatever. I mean, his stuff is really cool.

45:19I mean, he makes wound care possible. Like you go home and he's helped design all the stuff that there's these really cool. They're called wound vax. And it's like this machine you put on a wound that's not healing and it pulls all the skin up and it, you know, you heal three weeks faster. It gets incredible. And so I know what he's doing matters and is good work and stuff. But you know, no one is threatening to take their life on the phone with him. Right? Like it doesn't have kind of the same intensity. So I think it is a balance. He'll kind of talk about a cool thing. And then I'll talk about a hard thing and, you know, it's sort of settling. But I would say this, you know, anyone, like the question is a great one because it's like, well, how do you, how do you get to that? You know, are you trained? Do they talk about it? And I would say there is some basic training around it that can be conceptual. Like you just, you have to actually do the work to build the muscle if that makes sense. So I felt like my early training was just so intense.

46:23I had to learn really quickly. If I wanted to have any life, I had to be able to shut that off. I mean, one of the biggest turnover, sort of in any helping professions, we have, we have a lot of turnover in certain ones because it is just so difficult. So EMTs will have a high rate of burnout and, you know, they are seeing the really hardest parts of humanity. And they have a mix of, this is people's fault and this is absolutely nobody's fault. And it's tragic and hard and you're seeing people that they're scared, scared us, they're lonely us, they're most difficult, you know. You go from these intense situations that are so like life altering attention and sensation and everything. And then you have to go home after that and be normal. I don't have a deal. You're walking into maybe a dead body 10 days ago. You know what I mean? Like there is so many levels of things that they may be running into that are kind of incomprehensible for us, most of us who are like my spread tree is not working.

47:27Or whatever, you know. But less, we need you to, don't worry. But that is higher burnout, right? And the other, like in social work specifically is child protective services. So adult protective services doesn't have quite the turnover rate because there is the little less of, I mean, I think it's very similar. It's not easy. So the less team. But child protective services can be really, really helpful. Well, it's like the difference between someone in their 80s passing away and someone who's six years old passing away. There's just something different when it's kids, you know. That helplessness and just like the level of cruelty or, you know, difficult situations kids are found in. Right. And it's complex, right? Anyway, so all of that to say is there are way difficult jobs people do and they have to figure out how to manage. Now we have some really bad ways of managing that and, and then some just really natural human ways that can end up making our real lives harder.

48:29So for example, you know, burning out, you start to just, you can have these experiences where you stop having empathy at all, right? It just has, it's like it shuts down to protect you. So you struggle to feel certain things in other context. So emergency room physicians and staff are, it's really common for them to not have a lot of, you know, think of the fight or flight the rest of us have. They don't, it's like that tampons down because they are in emergencies all day. That's literally where they're, you know, being called to calmly work. And so I worked with a few ER physicians at one point and the, the sort of adrenaline junkies that a lot of them turned into so that they could feel. So I remember this a couple of people I would work with and they were all, was when I was new taught and they would all go like cliff jumping on the weekends or they tried those

49:30squirrel flying suits and I'm like, what is happening? They're rising like, oh, they know how emergencies works and they're taking these huge risks, right? But it's to feel and to have, to activate their systems when they have trained and practiced to not have them activated for what would activate literally everybody else, right? Right. And does everybody else around them while they're there? 100% 100% 100% the ER is full of, and you need to be like almost a nervous system regulator for other people. And so you're being calm, you know, makes a big difference. But that often means because stuff is maybe shut down. And so having an emotional healthy life and processing is probably the antidote to that. But you know, a lot of people are busy and do their thing and find that their relationships are where some of that emotional, bluntness causes problems, right? So in my case, my training was very early on with sex offenders and kids who were victims

50:35of sexual abuse. And that was like fire. And so, you know, and I learned so many things and had such great mentors who were just really good at sort of walking through what they did and how they kept healthy. And then there were plenty of people I saw who were not healthy. And I was like, oh, that's not the way to do it. So you know, I'm the youngest kid. I've observed a lot of people older than me doing things. So it felt very natural to just pay attention and go, I want to be like that dude and not that one. Or and recognizing, and here is probably the key. And this is for any helper is maintaining the awareness and finding like the joy in being helpful. Like it works. You can do some good, right? And there's sometimes when people realize like, I've got to get out of this job or I need to do something differently because the meaning sort of slips away because it's inherently

51:37very meaningful, right? To be helping people. But then you can numb out to that and different things. So moving around to different places and positions. So I don't work with that those populations anymore partly because when I started having kids, I was like, oh, there's no way I can do both of these things. I cannot talk to these kids and then raise kids. I can't do it. And so having boundaries is really big, right? I'm figuring out what you can and can't do. And I think, you know, Brian, you mentioned with Tina, being able to process a little bit at the end of the day, that was huge. You know, there is there is spousal privilege with confidentiality where you can just kind of share with your vent. Yeah, I mean, it's some place to. Yeah. And so I am. I have to do puppy day, by the way, I just get to tell you. Oh, there we go. Once a month, they bring in puppies to the office. I love it. Just for an hour, you play with puppies. It's like a mental, you know, mental health perk. Yes. The animals in this world are doing the heavy work. Yes, they are.

52:38Yes, all going. And that's actually a really great point. I'm glad you brought it up. Is you have to find in your free time and in your life really living your life, right? And counter balancing. It's think about it if you like lifted heavy boxes all day. When you got home, you probably should be lifting more heavy boxes, right? You need a massage and you need to arrest and maybe, you know, some some way to counter act the strain that it was. And so coming home to a peaceful place is ideal, right? And friends and activities in life and, you know, so that counter balancing. And really over time, you just learn what works for you and what doesn't. So one thing I have done for years and years is I have like a threshold idea. So like I crossed the threshold to out of my office into the rest of my house and I'm not, I just am not working. Like I have an office I go to and there is the hard stuff and then I crossed the threshold

53:40and I don't have the hard stuff. You know, sometimes I mean, I will process with Adam if it's a really tricky situation and he just listens and and he has a really good imagination. So he's like, oh my gosh. And then I'm like, you go back to wounds and he, you know, he does the physical wounds. I do this psychological wound. And so it's it's worked out. I mean, we've been doing it for 20, seven years now. So it's we have a pretty good rhythm. But early days it is a lot. I mean, he remembers thinking this is going to destroy her and that's really scary. Yeah. You know, this person has to figure this out and, you know, he was really good at letting me just be horrified a lot and and manage his own horrifying response and not trying to manage it for me, letting me, you know, sort of figure out that. You guys are going to be awesome in the in the zombie apocalypse. You're going to have he's going to have wound stuff taken care of that.

54:41I've got that. And Wendy's over here fixing all our psychological problems. Yeah, he's going to be like, let's make sure this app works while the zombies are coming to get your ones. Good point. Where's the internet? Where's the electricity? The zombie zombie finder app. Yeah. So are you so do you feel like like if there's one thing we need in this world, it's people who are helping kids with trauma, right? Well, that means we're asking people to try to be a professional in a case in cases where they're just horrified every day by what's happening. And it really can be detrimental to them. Is that is that world not highly populated by mental health professionals? Like is it hard to get people to fill those jobs? I think the stuff you were trained on, did you feel like that? That's I don't know. Are we lacking in that because we're asking so much from the health care professionals

55:44we have to deal with it? Well, that's great. There are, what is the country? Someone could look this up for me. Zim Bobway. Oh, not Zimbabwe. I think it's somewhere in Europe has more therapists per person per capita or something. I think it's like 220 for every, I don't know, what the numbers are. But we're kind of in the middle of the pack. We're not in massive trouble, but we, you know, it's kind of like nursing, staffing shortages or whatever, you know, in any highly burn outable place. Most people are not there because they're going to make all the big bucks. They tend to be there because they are called to be. They feel it. They naturally are inclined that way. They're interested in psychology and people. You know, they have their own sense of being there. I think when they are reimbursed by insurance like they should be or treated well, paid well, given proper training, taught how to manage their stress, you know, we could keep a

56:47lot of people happier. But I mean, I'm describing the opposite of like the corporatization of the helping model. It's that, so that's a frustrating piece. Like I saw hilarious, like TikTok the other day where, was this the same thing? This therapist, like just out of the shower with her head and the thing, which is always funny. Anyway, and she just said, imagine you get hired for a job and they say, we can't tell you how much you're going to make. We'll see. And when you do the work, then you have to fill out 45 pieces of paper, send it to us. And maybe a few months later, we'll tell you how much we think that was worth. Like it's crazy. The math of like the exchange of goods for services that happen with health insurance and clinical work. So it is daunting. And even with the best insurance, as people are, it's tricky. So could we talk about the whole system as functioning really well? Probably not. But are there all people, always people, born every year that have some of these natural

57:49abilities and a natural desire? Yeah. Absolutely. And this summer, LA was a lifeguard. And it was so fun because I knew a couple other kids prior to this. And I thought, man, if I had a guess, I would have assumed you be a lifeguard. There's just like a class of young kids who are like, yeah, I'm going to risk my life for you. And that's just an impressive, like interesting little human thing we have gone on. And then there are other people, they cannot do that. It's not going to work. We don't even need them to try. But we do need some. Sometimes those guys get those jobs anyway. I'll be at a pool and I can tell. There'll be a vigilant kid in one of those tall stand things. And I'm like, yeah, dude, if I bonk my head, he's got me. He's got me covered. And I'll see another kid and I'll go, he's staring at the bikini girl. He doesn't really want to be here. He keeps looking at his phone. There's always, I like it when I see the vigilant kid is all I'm saying. And they do exist.

58:50They do exist. And we need them, right? The red Rogers was not wrong. You've got to look for the helpers. And there's always helpers. It happens everywhere. You just kind of want to be where there is at least one. But you mentioned earlier, just like kids being traumatized and needing help, right? The training, the work to get there, I mean, there's a lot of steps that go to it because it doesn't really, you have to be really trained and careful and good at that because we can do more harm, right? And all helping professions, there's an ability to do real harm because the people are vulnerable, right? And so, Tina's whole deal is seeing the vulnerability in adults and helping them and the same goes with the kid version of that because people in their distress are at their most vulnerable. So I never think of myself as very powerful. So I'm like, oh, I got the power. But everyone's smiling, like, oh, I could really harm this person.

59:52And I can't really, you know, I wouldn't. But it's, of course, and even with ignorance, you could harm someone, right? But it's also like a fear like, ooh, if I say the wrong thing, I could really harm this person. Right. And so there's the double-edged sword. Right. And going back to, I'm just going to do a little plug for one of the best things this country's ever done is the phone number 988. And that is the suicide hotline. And it is finally funded exists. I mean, I think maybe it's been doged. I don't know. But I think it's still working. Oh, God. Let's open that. I hope so. I know. 988. It says it still exists. I think it does. Okay. It does. But it's, it really has been needed for a long time. And it is just incredible resource. The volunteers on the end are so trained. And essentially, you call if you are having suicidal thoughts, if you are a suicidal plan, if you have nowhere to turn, no one left to talk to, you can call it any stage.

1:00:53I can call it and say, hey, I got a client. This is what's happening. Can you give me some advice? It is, it is a staffed with incredibly wonderful people who are well trained to handle and get you resources and get involved. Interesting. So if I just knew something, if I had a friend or something and I felt like they were talking in that zone, I could get involved. You could, yeah. Oh, for sure. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Movies and TV shows. Well, TV shows now where this episode depicts suicide if somebody you know is dealing with a sort of thing called. Oh, that's true. Yeah. I always, those always come up and I go, my brain for a hot second, it's interesting. And then I forget about it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But yeah, I guess that is always meant for if you or someone you know, like, so yeah, of course I could call it. I don't know why I didn't think of that. Yeah. And so, so to really, and so you're not alone in that fear you're talking about, which is I don't want to do the wrong thing. I don't want to say the wrong thing. Yeah. And we all have, whether we've had a suicidal thought ourselves or not, we all worry.

1:01:53We're going to say something to someone and make them suicidal. I don't know what it is about being a human that we think we can convince or it'll be our fault or some somehow will bring it up and say, do you feel suicidal? And they'll be like, we'll have them thought of that. But now that I have, thanks for the idea. I mean, that's not how it works. But we act, especially if you're not used to talking about these things. It's not comfortable. You're scared. You want this person to be okay. And so sometimes people say nothing. And actually the thing that saves lives is just asking. And so if you are afraid to ask, call 988, talk to someone there about it and they can give you some advice. And similarly, if you are struggling, they are an incredible resource they can help you, you know, and sometimes these things come and they get strong and just talking about it is the relief that you need and then they can guide you. And it's anonymous. You don't have to give them your name. You can just work through this and they can obviously give you more resources. Anyway, so it's a fantastic tool.

1:02:54And I think that's probably the one thing I deal with these days that is probably still the hardest on me. I mean, I work with trauma all the time, but it's adults. It's adults are much easier than kids in my book. And I may, once my kids are all at a house, I might think, okay, I have energy for kids and stuff again and I may do it again. But it's a training that happens earlier. He said something in the email when he said, let's see, oh, how do you separate yourself from the emotional trauma? So part of the training is, you know, when you talk to a random person and say, what do you think my job is they would say, oh, you're just listening to people complain. It's just so fascinating to me. Because I'm like, is that what you would do if you want? You would just complain because you're kind of telling on yourself in a weird way. And or you don't maybe have anything other than complaining to deal with, right? And then I always just like, well, good for you then.

1:03:54That's great. You got nothing else going on. But no, that is not what happens. And really this, the training is, I have tools I can help this person with. I also know, and this is something for friends, family loved ones, you are helping by just being present. That is 90% of my job is to be present, to care about the other person. I don't fix it. I don't tell them what to do. And nor should you. Most of us get in the trap of trying to tell someone what to do or give them advice. You know, the few times I will do it, my clients never take my advice. Sometimes I'm like, guys, that was pretty good. Well, what I do do is get them to think a little differently or have them try out something new or have them explain to me. And I ask questions that get them deeper and then the light bulb goes on, right? That's how somebody learns and gains. And that is true for all of our interactions with other humans. It's actually a lot going on for them and how we respond determines if we're traumatized

1:04:59or not. I am not taking on anyone's trauma. I can be really sad for someone. I have a client who has a sister who's really young dying of cancer right now. It is we are crying together, but that is different than I am now traumatized and I can't function. So if you're taking those emotions on, you probably need some help with that. There's techniques and ways to not do that. And having your own therapist can be really helpful. And having a group of other therapists that you meet with a lot of times therapists will meet in groups and help each other process and practice boundaries. Because we're humans, right? And so we're not always good at this. And it is a skill that grows with time without burning out and shutting down as a human. That is the sweet spot is trying to figure out and you need some serious vacations where you help no one that's the other one. Right. Well, I think this is fascinating. You never really, I've never, like just you and I, brother, sister time, I don't think

1:06:02we've ever talked about like the side of your job. Like what it takes to do that stuff. So I find it super fascinating. I have to think our listeners do too. And Omega nine, I hope it answers your question. Well, and we can tie it till last time. You know, you would burn me with a cold soldering iron and I play typewriter. I have a high threshold. Yeah. Yeah. I do. And so I don't think most people have ever worried about me. It's not like I've helped see. I helped Wendy be a better. I'm sure that's how that was. Just the right amount of. Exactly. Yes. You've chased somebody around with a cold soldering iron. You make the next generation of mental health possible. Well, that's awesome. It was really good insight and it's kind of refreshing today to do something that's a little slightly different than we usually do. For sure. That was cool. Wendy, I know. Go to Randeland. Yeah, go to Randeland. Also, nobetteru.com is a place to go. Get signed up for future stuff.

1:07:03You get something coming up soon. What's going on over there? The class starts on the 13th of September. You can sign up till midnight the night before. Yeah, go to the website. I'm sending a few more emails out and then I'll stop bugging everybody. Yeah, we have quite a few people already started. We have scholarships left. Just reach out. Begins on the 13th, the second day of Blizzcon, everybody sign up today unless you're going to Blizzcon. Yeah. And you'll be done with Blizzcon by the after the first call. It'll be fine. So, please guess what's less expensive than Blizzcon? Right. Yes, exactly. Guess what's less expensive than therapy, this class. Yeah, just trust me. This is, you're getting, you're getting, freaking, 25 years for one, the cost of one session. This is productive therapy avoidance. This is what you're providing. Yep. What's fun is I have a friend who's going to do the class and she's a family physician and she's like, I just need to know how to help my patients. Feel a little better and I'm like, girl, this is the class.

1:08:04Anyway, so it'll be a lot of fun. Also, I want to say a quick thank you to anyone who is donated to Nore's campaign to get out of Gaza and go to school in Italy, go to medical school in Italy. I was talking to the person who's running it and she just broke into tears. Like, it was only her and a friend who had donated before all of you dumped in and she was like, oh, I can't believe how much hope I have. So they're very, very, very, very grateful. If you can still do that, if you haven't done it yet, that would be very kind. Even a dollar you guys for real. Tiny.cc-slash-help-nore-nor-it's-n-o-u-r. You know you are. Go there now and if you can help out, that would be awesome. Thanks so much. It's a really good cause. Wendy, have a fantastic week. We'll see you next time. Bye now. Bye. Bye. Bye. All right. We have finished. What have we started? Yes. Tomorrow will be a TMS Friday. All right. Everybody. It'll be if it's the fourth, so there's no teeth.

1:09:05So there's no monica, but we'll have plenty to do. That's right. We'll have a, do you should I think have one for me? Oh, is it a quiz for you this week? Cool. I think so. I'll double check and make sure I've got it. Yeah. And we're for changes, not? I'm looking to make sure I can look in my folder and see if I've got something. Yeah, I get confused on that. But he was like, yeah, he was saying, I've got really excited about the one I've got for you this time around. I'm like, oh, cool. All right. I'm sure he's always excited about what he's going to next. Yes, always excited. Yeah. Be like Jamie. Be always excited. Yes. Check out his Patreon while you're, you know, while we're talking about it. Yeah. TMS mashups still is the name, I believe. That's right. Well, I've got an alternate titles game for us for FilmSack on Sunday too. Ooh, I like those. I hate hearing my voice from 2016. Oh, so alternate titles for this movie. Hey guys. My balls have a drop yet. Anyway, here's the question. That's right. Exactly. We'll also cover Bill today. We'll do a raid right after the show. So watch for that. Yeah. You should be dancing.

1:10:06Yeah. That's the Bee Gees famously said. Yeah, get your berry gib on and his brother's. That's right. And then core after that. I said you can. I'm broken. I don't get how they did that. To this day, I just don't get the whole range, but whatever. Then core at noon, lots to talk about. There was a Sony state of play today. We'll break that down. Oh, cool. Talk about all that. We're getting close to Wolverine release. Yeah, we're all cool, real close. We're what a week and a half. Yeah. Like what the 18th? Yeah, I think that's right. Something close to that. I don't know which of the three of us will get it. I don't know. We're still. We're all a little mad at Sony right now. So I don't know who's going to get it. But whatever it expects some coverage of that more on core, starting today at noon. And then TMS Friday, as I mentioned, then the instance on Friday will be doing something to then film sac this weekend. Good Lord. So much stuff. It's got takes of occasion, but we're back with the vengeance.

1:11:07We're back with the vengeance. Do you know what the, what's our movie I forgot? Oh, it is called absolutely anything. That's right. Is recommended by a film sac fan, film sac listener. I watched it last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of these. God, I mean, on paper, there's so much potential for this thing. But it is that zany wackiness that made me almost walk out of the Beverly Hill delis. Oh, no. And I don't want to say more than that, because I don't want to take your opinion of it. But it was, it was the couple points in the thing. I'm like, I was going to message the film sac group and say, oh, maybe we need, maybe we need to keep looking. Yeah. That happens sometimes, you know? Yeah. So interesting. Well, I don't feel tainted, but I do, I do feel my taint. So, oh, good. You're feeling your rain hells. Yeah, right this second, right hand, right hand taint check.

1:12:08Everybody do a taint check. It's good for you. All right, that is it for the show frogpants.com slash TMSs our website. If you're looking for anything, you'll find it there. Let's get out of here with some music if you don't want. Yeah. This is going out to Lydia and John who say, we are hitting the road again. This time it's from the cat skills back to Arizona. On September 5th, we will reach our 40th anniversary. So help us celebrate any day along the way will be fine. They're awesome, by the way. I love them. They are the sweetest people. When they came to an oracular, they told me that when they went to Moab, or maybe it was after, but they went to Moab and he got about halfway into the hike to Delacat Arch. Yeah. And it was like 105, and he went. Yeah. I don't think I'm doing this. I'm going back and I don't blame it. No. Nasty. They're awesome though. Just traveling around like as a couple just. I know. And that's the way you do it, right? You go from the cat skills to the Arizona. I mean, it is the, you know, if it ain't Arizona, it's Florida. But you do that that they're an absolute sweetheart.

1:13:11So congrats on their 40th. That's amazing. Hope it'll get to see them when we go to Prescott next next month. But oh, there's some drama going on with that. Oh, family. I would get into it. Yeah. Family drama. Yes. All good up until one person who was not planning on coming all of a sudden decided that they were coming. And it's like, oh, I know this feeling. Yes. I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do. All right. Anyway. So I originally was thinking, all right. Well, they said pick any song, whatever song you want. I was going to do Go West by the Village people. Of course, pet shop boys have a great cover of that song. I decided to go a little bit different direction slightly with a song called Gates of the West. This was originally done by the clash. Great song, by the way. Did I put it in the folder? I'm just looking right now. Yeah, I did. Okay. Yeah, I see it in there. This is a yes. I'm looking at it right now.

1:14:12All right. This is such a great song. And the clash put it on there. They include it on their box set, clash on Broadway and in the supermarket or super black market clash in 1993. It's a great song. It's been covered a couple times, most notably by Jesse Malen. But I like this version right here by Adam Masterson. This was included on a CD that was taped to the front of an uncut magazine. And you got to love these. These are great. This is a great example of it. This is Adam Masterson as Lydia and John make their way towards the Gates of the West.

1:16:12I take my folks and my folks with my plan. The city cats are shattered when I see you again. All the young kids are remnants of all the glory years. They're standing around the bar for no where the fears, the little riches in the kitchen. These playing schools are plates and it's telling the waiters, these goats. I remember somewhere back in Falken time. Out on the dust boat deep in the roulette mine I ain't gonna get a sell. Only yesterday looking for a future in the USA. I hear them sign. These eyes you mean the south sides to the same and even something new.

1:17:17And I'm standing at the gates of the West. I've learned money if the lights of the sun, the city cats are shattered. On the perfect ride. Standing at the gates of the East. I take my folks and my folks with my plan. The city cats are shattered when I see you again. I'm standing at the gates of the West. I've learned money if the lights of the sun, the city cats are shattered.

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