369. The World’s Best Glutathione Supplement? A Discussion With Steven Scott

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1:07Welcome to the Boost Your Biology podcast. Hello ladies and gentlemen and welcome back to the Boost Your Biology podcast. I'm super thrilled to have a very special guest, Jordi Me in the studio here today, who has a very strong reputation and has pioneered some incredible things for human health and also science. We have Steven Scott, Steven. Welcome to the podcast. Hey, it's great to be here. Lucas, thank you. Yeah, I'm glad you were able to make it, Steven. I've done a quite a fair bit of a research on yourself and I've heard only spectacular things about some of your achievements in the past. Did you want to just share with my audience a little bit about your story, Steven, and hey, got into the health space? Sure. I graduated from college a long time ago, 1970, and proceeded in the next six years to flunk out of nine jobs.

2:11Couldn't succeed no matter how hard I tried. A friend of mine got me into the book of Proverbs, said if I would read that, it would change everything. And on job number 10, I started a little company with a partner. He had $5,000. I had a vision for something. And five months later, our product went on sale and our sales hit a million dollars a week. And in 76, that was a lot of money. I mean, a house only was about $80,000. New cars were, you know, five to 15. And the key was I found a breakthrough product. A breakthrough is a product that can do something that nothing else in the world can do. And so that became our model. And over the next 35 years, we sold billions of dollars of our products. We had products ranging from nutritional products, fitness products, weight loss products, educational products.

3:12In fact, today underarmory exists because one of our educational products changed the life of the founder of when he, when he was at University of Maryland. What was his name? Okay. Anyway, so, so we were robust and one that people recognize as the total gym with Chuck Norris and Christie Brinkley. That's been on the air here in the US for 30 years. It's pretty much mark was marketed worldwide. But we had share on hair care. We had five different cosmetic and makeup companies that we built from the ground up. So just a lot of different companies, but always featuring a breakthrough. An educational product that could take a D student and turn them into an A student in three and a half hours. And impacted millions of young people here in America. And a weight loss program with Richard Simmons called Dila Meal.

4:15And we had we had tens of thousands of people lose weight. One guy set the Guinness Book of Records losing 715 pounds. And of course to do that, you got to start out at about 915 pounds. And his wife lost 300 pounds. But we just look for breakthrough. And in 2006, an investment banker came to me and said, I'm going to introduce to you the biggest breakthrough of your life. And I thought, yeah, right. How many times I have I heard of that. And he introduced me to a medical doctor who introduced me to a brand new word, a molecule that I never heard of called glutathione. And it changed the whole course of my life, changed the direction of my life. And that's what we're, I guess we're going to talk about today because it impacts every area of an individual's life, their health, their performance, their athletic recovery, their athletic performance, the increase of lean muscle, the decrease of recovery times.

5:26And on and on and on. And I was blessed to be introduced to a number of scientists. The first one that we started with in 2007, I put a million dollars into his patent and getting it out there to the world. And then in a few years later, I met a scientist from the University of Minnesota 42 years as a professor of medicinal chemistry and toxicology. And he took me to a whole new level in the area of glutathione and gave me a vision for something that nobody else had given me. And that was if we could simultaneously. Get glutathione and a few co-factors into the cytoplasm of the cell. We would change life on earth. And so I started working on that. I put millions of dollars into it and go few friends of mine put millions more.

6:32We developed a technology called hydrostat and it's the most effective delivery technology for delivering molecules into the cell. How you can take any any water soluble molecule. Put it in your mouth, a liquid solution, swish it like a mouthwash. And it's in the bloodstream very quickly within within a few minutes. Once it's in the bloodstream, one pass and it's emptied out of the blood and into the cytoplasm of the cell. And and that takes about 50 to 60 seconds. Now nobody has ever done anything like this. So the first thing that we applied it to and the one that makes the biggest difference is glutathione and some co-factors. And with that, we've changed lives all over the world. We're in 75 countries with that. Yeah, that's that's actually really phenomenal stuff, Steven. And I want to actually dive deeper into a little bit more about the evolution of glutathione.

7:40Right. So like talk to us about when when when you first came across it, like what kind of research was out? Well, there was when I came across it, there were 50,000 public studies. Glutathione was discovered in 1888. Nobody really studied it until about 1984 by 1990. There were 16,000 public studies. Vitamin C to compare that was 32,000. Today, there's 207,000 public studies of glutathione. There's less than half of that with vitamin C. What happened? Scientists discovered that Luthine's the key to just about everything you want. Dr. Oz, who's the number two man in our US Health Department. He was a heart surgeon, professor at Columbia University, head of some TV show. And he did one show with the head of disease prevention from Yale University, Dr. David Katz.

8:42And and he opened the show with a little kicker. He said, glutathione, it's the most important antioxidant you've never heard of. It's what helps prevent you from the diseases you fear the most. And the problem has always been delivery. We have all these animal studies, all these amazing studies of what glutathione can do when it's delivered. Unfortunately, people don't donate their organs. IV is pretty, it's a little effective, but not that effective. Why? Because the half life of glutathione, when it gets into the cell or is produced by the cell, is only 90 minutes. So you spend $300 for an IV and you get a six hour bang for the buck on that. That's not not a lot of people who do that. Athletes will do it, performers will do it, but not many people will. So what we've developed is a way to get it into the site of plasma much faster than IV.

9:47Believe it or not. IV takes 26 minutes, delivers the three component parts, glycine, glutamic acid, and cysteine rather than the whole molecule glutathione. You put the whole molecule in, but it's in the blood so long that it's broken into its three peptides. Those three peptides go into the cell and then the cell has to reconstruct glutathione from those three peptides. We go right in. You swish it like a mouthwash, absorbs into your mucus membranes and your cheeks and under your tongue, and then one pass of circulation, 60 seconds, and it's in every cell in the body. It is, does more. Winston Churchill had a statement. Hitler's plan in England was to go in, bomb the crap out of them, and then land the troops and invade. Well, the RAF, tiny little group, honestly, compared to the invading air forces, protected it.

10:54And after nine months, Hitler gave up and said, okay, we're not going to invade England. And Churchill made the statement. Never has so much been owed to so few in such a fast time. And that's what happens. That's glutathione. Glutathione impacts every aspect from the skin, the eyes, the liver, the kidneys, the immune system. How faster immune system can respond to a viral or bacterial invasion is entirely dependent on glutathione, because it is the protector of the T cells. So you get a bacteria virus, your immune system turns it on, says, let's go ahead. Well, the virus or bacteria is reproducing explosively. Your T cells reproduce slowly if you don't have high glutathione levels.

11:55What we want to do is get more glutathione to protect those T cells when you have higher levels of glutathione, your T cells can reproduce in response to bacteria and virus much more rapidly. So there are studies that basically showed that people with high glutathione levels didn't die during the pandemic. They might have gotten sick, but the T cells could rise to the occasion. And it started with a Russian scientist studying that. And then that got published in the Journal of Infectious Diseases, and then they did a lot of studies and found that to be true. But it impacts everything. Athletics, huge impact on human performance, physical performance, and athletic performance, and recovery. Medical Dr. has 25 sports medicine clinics throughout Europe, and most of his clients are professional athletes and world class amateurs.

12:59They discovered that their athletes recover at least 60 to 80% faster when they're on our product. They also discovered that it delays the onset of lactocassidosis by over 16%. Nothing else in the world can delay it by 1%. So it's really our athletes have set world records, big world records when they get on our product. There's no out of the tens of millions of doses that are servings that have been used. We've had no reported side effects. But that's because glutathion is manufactured by every cell in the human body. There's no life on Earth without it. Any organ will die very quickly. People die. Even plants and trees have to have glutathion. There's only one oxygen-based life that doesn't need glutathion. It's a single cell particular type of bacteria.

14:02But that's it. Everything else has to have glutathion. What I'm really fascinated about, Steven, is I'm aware that it does have a really broad spectrum effect on the overall physiology and functioning of the human body. Back in the day, looking at the evolution of glutathione products on the market, a lot of my audience have probably heard of your standard encapsulated glutathione and you've got your reduced form, you've got your lapisome or you've got all the different forms. But what you guys have pioneered is something that no one else has been able to achieve. No, and the key is the way we manufacture the water, we take it to a purity level that's 40% more pure than a hospital IV of water. Okay, so there's nothing in that water. And we introduce into our reactor the particles of the molecule of glutathione and other factors

15:06and that water wants to instantly grab it. It then carries it over the cell and the pores on the cell will say this is a cell are 10 nanometers. So we keep it under that, we keep particle size under the tin. So it drops right into the cell. On the other hand, if we take that same glutathione particle and wrap it in a lapisome or you know a fat tissue to create a lapisome, now it's 50 to 300 nanometers. The pore in the cell is only 10 nanometers. Hmm, can't go in through passive diffusion. Has to use forced diffusion. What's that? That's where you rely on energy forces that have to be recruited and taken away from other energy, you know, in the cell ATP and press it into the cellular wall. That's called forced

16:07diffusion. So some does get through and a little bit gets into the cytoplasm. But nobody has ever seen the effects we have seen. And I'll show you one, for example, with an athlete. This one's really cool. Got to find Bill Gillespie. Okay, Sean, you said he's, oh, will you, I get here. I got a big book. Because when I think about the like the other forms of glutathione, Steven, so what you're saying is let's say somebody goes on, let's say Amazon or I heard, and I just order glutathione in capsule form. What you're saying is like the efficacy and effectiveness of that would be like, like, riding, riding a bicycle up a mountain grade in high gear. No real fast, move real slow, bear me, not make it to the top. And we've been tested against other, other, let's see if I can find the right. We have actually paid a lot of money

17:14to have a lot of money. Because I look at, because I think about like from a consumer standpoint, there's, I know during the lockdown, during COVID, a lot of people, I think glutathione was sold out like on, I heard in, I Amazon. But then like, are these consumers, you're saying they're probably getting on the really small benefit from, yeah, it's honey. Okay. Better than nothing. But here, here's a, this was Eurofans is one of the top lab testing groups in the world. They do over 450 million tests a year. They're in 60 countries. Okay, the blue is our, our glutathione. Okay, as far as delivery to the cell, not going through the stomach, but just passing it over the cell. To which, which, which cells in particular here? We had the any cells, 40,000 human cells. And what happens, like I say, we going through passive diffusion. So we get that. Now what happened is they had the cells that really divided into two groups, those cells with depleted glutathione.

18:19Okay, taken down to 35 by 35%, which is, you can't, if you take it down lower than that, the cell dies. And they also had normal cells that were maxed out at glutathione. We raised the glutathione in both of them a lot better than any other glutathione. In fact, with depleted cells, it was almost a 700% increase. And so, yeah, that's why we say what nobody else in the world sees in every aspect. So here's a guy, Bill Gillespie, he was strengthened conditioning coach for the Seattle sea sea hawks. And he's been an amateur weightlifter all of his life. In 2008, he set the world record as an amateur bench, bench pressing 804 pounds. Now that's about 330 kilos. Then his product, he productivity went way down. And 10 years later, I called him with this.

19:24And I said, how you doing? He said, I'm really discouraged on my way. And I'm only lifting about 700 pounds. I said, Bill, you're 59 years old. That's a lot of weight. He said, yeah, that world record for a 59 year old, but I don't get to compete with the elite guys anymore. I said, well, I'm going to send your product, because it's going to change everything. He said, really, here's what happened. In the next, before he turned 60 that year, he benched 915. At 60, he benched a thousand and 50 pounds. And then at 62, it is retirement, he benched 1129. 8 pounds. That's 512 kilos. And that's about the weight of a concert grand piano and a bench on top of it. That would have had to have been, was that a world record? Surely. Look at all these are world records. This is a guy. But the point is, look what happened once he went on the product. That's the red. You went from

20:27700 pounds to 1129 pounds in three years. And so where my brain goes, I'm thinking like, what is the mechanism of action there that enabled him to like, how is the glutathione achieving such strength? And they are. Okay. What glutathione does better than all the other antioxidants combined. It's called the master antioxidant for two reasons. Number one, it's the most prevalent. It's manufactured by every single cell in your body. You have 37 and a half trillion cells. So that's one reason because of its abundance. But the other reason, all other antioxidants are monofocused. They can target one type of free radical, but they miss out on all the others. glutathione is the master antioxidant, it's like the master key of a hotel that can open any door. It can sequester and neutralize all types of free radicals, regardless of their source, hydrogen,

21:31oxygen, or nitrogen, regardless of their chemical makeup, regardless of their physical structure. glutathione takes them all out, nothing else does. It does it very rapidly. It is your cell's first line of defense. It's the key later, it's the detoxifier. But the reason athletes see such a huge difference. Oxidative stress that's created by the free radicals goes down. As it goes down, guess what else? Inflammation. Oxidative stress creates inflammation. It also accelerates the aging of the cell. So do you want to get older faster, stay younger, longer, but oxidative stress. So when you lower oxidative stress, you see that kind of thing like that. Bill also had a real problem at 59 years old with inflammation. He said, because he's still training the football team, but he was

22:32with Liberty University at the time. He says, I got 12 to 16 hour days during the season. I go to bed hurting. I wake up hurting. I hurt all day because I'm so inflamed from a lifetime of weight lifting. Well, guess what? glutathione reduces the oxidative stress that creates the inflammation. When you reduce oxidative stress, every organ, every cell, every tissue, works more efficiently, more effectively, overall better. Recovery times, before Bill started seeing an increase in his weight lifting in two weeks on the product, but he said, Steve, I recover so fast. He says, I work out hard. Next morning, I'm not stiff. I'm not sore. It's like I never worked out. And he said, I've never seen anything like that. That's what all of our athletes say now. And we got them in every martial arts, iron men,

23:34marathoners, of course, professional players that don't admit taking that because it does, it's out of the bloodstream so quickly. Camp can't be tested for it. The way you would test for it, if you really want to do it, is you would take tissue. But even the tissue uses it up so quickly, you'd have to test it. A tissue like liver tissue, but people don't want that. In terms of, Steve, I've seen quite a lot of research on hydrogen water has become pretty popular in the last five to ten years. I've heard that's an antioxidant as well, but glutathione's working on an intracellular level unlike hydrogen water. Is that kind of... Yes, big time. Now, there's nothing that can compete with glutathione. There's no life without it. Okay. So water, yes, oxygen, yes, glutathione, yes. People say, how long do I have to stay on it? Rest of your life, how long do you have to stay on water and oxygen? If you want to be... Now, I'll be 78 in less than a month.

24:40And all my numbers are where they were in my early 30s. I'm not on any medication. No stands, nothing my heart's doing great. My brain's still firing. I can recall my recalls really sharp sharper than most. God just blessed me with a very strong... My mom had a perfect photographic memory and I got a tiny corner of her page. But it hasn't gone down. It hasn't subsided. And glutathione is critical to every process in the cell. I just did a talk in Europe and the cell is incredible. Every cell in your body is more complex than any machine ever made by mankind. By billions of times more complex. And we went through each part of the cell

25:43and said, how critical is glutathione? For example, to the cytoplasm, to the DNA and went on and on. Everyone, absolutely critical. But it goes down as we age. It goes down with athletic expenditure. It goes down with injuries. It goes down with disease states. Okay. And it's just... It's amazing. I'll tell you what else it does that people haven't talked about. It makes your cells more receptive to peptides, more receptive to proteins, anything that you want to get into the cell. Even medication. The receptors are more receptive when you have increased supplies of glutathione. When I came across glutathione as a naturopath, we were told by almost every lecturer that glutathione is the key to unlocking superior health. And we would always get

26:47taught about glutathione in the context of heavy metal detoxifying. So maybe you want to talk about the importance on that front as well. Sure. You've probably heard of Mark Victor Hansen, a book called Chicken Soup for the Soul. And which nothing's outsold it. Hundreds of millions other than the Bible. Hundreds of millions of copies. Well, Mark, I was talking to a woman at a writers conference many years ago around 2008. And she was really dying. I mean, she just was out of energy. And I said, let me go give you. And I gave her the glutathione product that I had then that that on a one to 10 compared... If we're at a 10, that would be it a two. But I gave it to her. She took it home. I didn't know she was engaged to Mark Victor Hansen. And they call me up 30 days later and say it saved his life. I said,

27:52what what the heck? And they said, yeah, he's had mercury poisoning. And the people that Harvard had fun him through chelation twice. And they're not able to bring down the level. He got on our product. And it's not that our product was the hero. Because the product just enabled the cells to produce more of its own glutathione. It's glutathione that became the hero. And he went back to Harvard because he was told he wasn't going to live very long. And Harvard said, we don't know what she did, but your mercury levels are zero. So glutathione is... And he did videos for me and everything. It's just a wonderful man. But unpaid. We never paid him or anything. And we have a medical board. We're such a breakthrough. Our medical board is from Stanford, Harvard, Mayo Clinic, Cleveland Clinic, Sloan Catering, Texas Heart Institute, and on and on. And they all serve for free because they've seen the outcomes. One of our guys that I absolutely adore is this guy.

29:01His... All of his education was US. He lives in Greece. So, Tira Snickleopolis. And he is a molecular, cellular genetic specialist. And his postdoctoral was at Sloan Catering for six years, Cancer Research. Well, he got our product, started measuring what it was doing. And he says, oh my gosh, you have no idea what this is doing. He says, there's nothing like it. And he started going through some of his discoveries. And he said, this is so much bigger than you think. Well, I wish I could show you everything. But these guys see things that boggle the mind. And this is just a tiny snippet. We have a lot of... I think we have a medical board around 2025, but we're in work with thousands of doctors throughout the world. With the delivery method, Steven, I'm really

30:04interested to see why you decided to go down the route of the swish, sort of like the sublingual route. Because that would have taken a lot of effort and money to develop that sort of... It took a lot of money. And when I was getting tapped out, I went to some friends in Australia, believe it or not, from Australia, no way. Yeah. Former had a Ford Motor Company in Austria. No way. Wow, that's huge. Yeah. He was head of the Pan Pacific Ford Motor Company. He caught the vision. And then some other friends caught the vision. And what we see, and we can't report everything, but what we see and what are these guys see, nobody in the world has ever seen before. So we're a new frontier. And the frontier is giving the cell what it needs to retain and utilize. That's the key word, utilize glutathion at a higher

31:12level and in doing so, becoming much healthier at a cellular level. Hmm. The other things that I'm curious about, Steven is, I mean, obviously we've sort of spoken about the technology there. In terms of like things that people need to understand about glutathion, that you think maybe a lot of people have misunderstood, don't really understand, or some of the myths going around about glutathion. Well, I'll tell you, everybody, the first thing they'll say, like my doctor said, well, you can't get glutathion through the stomach. And I said, that's right. That's right. We don't. We go, you go to the bloodstream to the cells. Real simple, but it's not simple to do, but it's not complex what it does. But getting there, being able to create the water in the process to where instead of wrapping it a fat and being that big, we can create water in

32:19the low, so it allows the particle size to easily drop into the cell. But you had mentioned on the questions that you submitted to me, tell me how it impacts flying. Yeah, that's a big question, because I get asked a lot about what are some of the best supplements and things to take during air travel and being on an airplane? Well, obviously. Yeah. Okay, so I have, we have online, you could look it up on YouTube, you could write Numi in EUMI title. And there's a video from a captain that was an international captain for 27 years. He was an airline captain pilot for 43 years. He's retired now. And he's convinced every air crew, for example, should be on it. He was doing eight crossings of the Pacific in 12 days.

33:26And he did that once a month. And almost 100 time zones. And pilots get a four hour nap on a 15 hour flight. And then they return to the control for landing. And he said, I always thought I was 100%. He said, when I went on your product, I realized I've been flying at 60 to 75% of my mental focus and stamina. It's life-changing. And when you are 35,000 feet, you have 100 times the cosmic radiation that you had at sea level. Your solar radiation increases by 10 times. But the airplane helped shield that. But I real quick posted, do airline crews get cancer younger in their life and at a higher rate than the general population? The answer, of course, is yes. And so I take it because it's the only way I just got back from Europe. And it

34:31was a nine time zone different. And the only way I can quickly adjust is by swishing our product. And we've broken the price barrier. Most glutathione competitors are 60 levels, say, 40% to 100% more expensive. And if you include glutathione injections and glutathione infusions, those are real expensive. We come in it around $2 a serving. They would come in IV is $300 a serving. And we, the reason we're so much better, is not only are we getting into the cell and in a usable way much quicker, which is what you want. We are, if you start to go down mentally, your mental focus starts to decline a little bit, which might not end the afternoon,

35:39or your physical stamina. You can swish again. We have, we have, for example, endurance athletes that have eight, 12 hour events. They'll swish five minutes before because it only takes five minutes to get in. So they'll fish five minutes before an event. For example, triathletes, iron men, long distance cycling. And then they'll do it just to beat the half-life every one to two hours of the event. They'll swish some more. And instead of their energy curve going like that, it goes like this. And we had a 48-year-old come in second at an eight-hour event. And he used to win it when he was in his 30s. But even he stopped trying, it was a mountain biking event. And he gets to the finish line and there's only one other person there. And everybody was shocked because he said, I was just, I don't even try to win anymore. I just, but it, you're giving every cell what it

36:45needs to deal with the oxidative stress that you're creating from the exercise. And so yeah, there's, it's, we're where I wanted to be. Now we just got to get it into the hands of every man, woman, boy, and girl in the world. That's our goal. Yeah, I think it's, I really do say this is like a life-changing health sort of support. Like this is something that I think a lot of people can benefit from. Any age group, any sort of demographic, you've just shown us a widespread of conditions, sort of like, you know, we're in healing. You've got athletic performance, you've got recovering from jet lag, you know, solar radiation, which is, again, a lot of my listeners are interested in that because it most likely they're probably taking a glutathione supplement. Maybe it's just a encapsular form. But you know, they're not seeing what we see. They're not seeing, we

37:46have one scientist on a call challenge me on the call. He said, there's no way you're getting glutathione into the cytoplasm. No way. So we spent a lot of money to have your own friends to the test and you saw the bar graph. Nothing beat. We were in the cell in abundance, both the depleted cells and the normal cells in five minutes, which is the earliest they can test. They test at the five minute mark, 10, 20 minute at five minutes. We were there. I think what are some of the other, I know glutathione, something you've, you've super prioritized. It's obviously the top, top focus for you. Were there any other, because you could obviously use that technology to then help with any other. And we are. We are. We have a neural product that we've used that any ingredient that we want to put in the body. If we can put it in with our hydrostat delivery,

38:50it's going to get to the cells faster and in more abundance. And that's so yes, we've done it with I'm trying, we have a hair product that it gets into the spray it right after a shower, you know, and you tell dry your hair, spray it on. And it goes into the scalp. And we've seen amazing results with that. We have a woman's product where that had a hundred patients study. It was not a clinical study, but rather user study. And the women were in three groups. And all three groups pre pre pre menopause, menopause, post menopause. And all three groups rated the product 90 to a hundred, not 80 to 90 percent said they never wanted to be without the product. So once again, it's fast delivery. But the most important thing we do is glutathion.

39:57And it's cofactors because without the cofactors, we wouldn't see it's it's the blend that we have. So the urephant test, which was really testing redox activity. See, it's you want that it's that redox activity where the glutathione molecule is engaging in every aspect, including the combat in the cell, the protection, all of that. It redoxes the majority of action. It's like you have troops outside the city walls. There's a war going on inside the city. Now you bring those troops in. And that's called redox. And that creates a cycle of reproduct, glutathione is the only antioxidant that can recycle itself. And it uses the cysteine in the cell to recycle itself. Now glutathione itself is a recycling agent for vitamin C and vitamin E. Yeah. So no, there's no into it. And what comes back to us, I mean, our distribution company,

41:00we launched five years ago. In 75 countries, it's millions of servings. And the stories we hear are beyond description. And all of the doctors we work with that we officially tie ourselves to like our medical board serve for free. And we don't pay, we don't pay that. We've had some doctors in different countries say, I'd really like to get paid for this. We say, no, we don't do that. It's a really incredible, incredible mission you're on there, Steven. And I really respect a lot of it because I'm a naturopath by background. Some all about different supplement ingredients and tools, a weekend leverage to improve human health. And you know, a product like Numi and the technology behind it, the way that you're enabling glutathione to literally enter the cytoplasm,

42:04that is where it's all like that is literally the most important thing for efficacy and effectiveness for a product, right? Like the yeah. Yeah, let me ask you're absolutely right. But let me ask you a question. Do you work out? Absolutely. Yeah. This morning, I drink every day almost every way. Take it five minutes before the workout, swish it for at least a minute. And oops, oh, you froze for a second. Swish it for at least a minute. And if you have a long workout, like a two hour workout, or you go running for five miles or something like that, before and after. And your recovery, the first athlete we tried it with was an endurance athlete. And his workout is 25 minute or at least an hour at a 25 degree incline running on a treadmill. And then jumping off that treadmill in an hour of intensive rolling. And he tried it on Memorial Day of 2018. I get it to him. He calls me that night. He says,

43:10Steve, this is unbelievable. He's 28 years old. He said, normally when I finish my treadmill, my knees are so swollen and hurting. That's why I get on the roller. And then I finish the roller and I go straight to bed. And I'm dead. I wake up in the morning. I have to use a roller on my legs. Then I have to do 20 minutes of stretching, 20 minutes of yoga. Then I'm okay. He says, my knees weren't swollen tonight. And after I was completely done 15 minutes after the workout, I felt like I could go another round. Then the next day, he called me and he says, amazing. I woke up, not stiff, not sore. Didn't need the roller. Didn't need the yoga. Didn't need the stretching that I normally have to do just a function. He says, all of it changed. And I was just in Europe. Didn't he come in while I was gone? Sean Andrew. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And he's still an avid just like it was the right word, an evangelist. All of our

44:17doctors were like evangelists for it. Yeah. It's incredible. Well, Steven, I do want to say a massive thank you for sharing your wisdom and also bring me forward such a unique pathway to improve human health. I mean, this is something that I know a lot of my audience is really, really fascinated by. And I'm going to make sure to leave a link to the new me product in the podcast show notes for anyone listening here. Did you want to, did you have any final words you wanted to share with my audience? But if a person's interested in what, in hand, what glutathione impacts they can do an AI search, a Google search, a chat GP teacher and just type in glutathione and blank. And watch what happens. Because with over 207, there's a thousand new studies every two months, two to three months. Wow. And there's already 207,000 studies. And it's studied because it impacts everything like Dr. Oz says it impacts

45:23everything. You're hearing your vision, everything. I my content, I started on glutathione enhancement in 2006. Not on this product as this technology didn't exist, but my other product, which was an inocetal cysteine product with some cofactors that was patented and we bought the patents. My contact lens is I'll be 78 August 14th. You might want to send me a like a little birthday present. No. Anyway, my birthday is only a few weeks away and 78 years old. And you could you could basely pass as like mid 50s easily. Very kind. But my contact prescription hasn't changed. Since I've been with glutathione, same lenses. It was changing every year. They were having to go strengthen. And then our first product was in 2006. And it hasn't changed since then. And I get

46:26an examiner every year. And my doctor just shakes his head. And he goes, can't explain it. I said, that's because you don't study glutathione. It's remarkable. It's really, really remarkable stuff, Stephen. Thank you so much for sharing that with with my audience. And I do want to point out, for anyone listening to the podcast here today, if you did enjoy today's podcast, please do leave it a five star review. If you did find this highly beneficial. And please do share the podcast around to your friends and family. This is something that can benefit almost every single one of us on planet earth. And so if we can get the product and get glutathione into the cell, we can clearly see what impact that is going to have on our physiology. So, yeah, Stephen, thank you so much for our podcast. Lucas, thank you. You're a delight.