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1:01And make it Goathe Distance. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. We're going to be doing this. And make it Goathe Distance with a ten year or 100,000 mile powertrain limited warranty. Hurry up now for great deals during the Ram Drive-In-To-Fall sales event. Excludes fully electric vehicles applying to 2026 model year vehicles non transferable. Visit moapart.com for complete details and a copy of the powertrain limited warranty. Cummins is a registered trademark of Cummins and Raymond Hemmier. Registrate trademarks of FCA-US LLC. Hey guys. Ready or not. of ways we can up our game for this critical election. We rely on our premium subs to expand coverage, upgrade the studio, add staff, give you guys the best independent coverage that is possible. If you like what we're all about, it just means the absolute world to have your support. But enough with that, let's get to the show. So earlier this year, the House of Representatives passed what's called Section 219, which would

2:06effectively create a new office that would merge the US military and Israeli military kind of research defense industrial based on technology so that you further fuse what is already a pretty tight cooperation. Now over on the Senate, the NDAA has headed through that chamber. It has to pass at some point over the next several weeks or months. And so there's a live debate over whether or not that fusing of the two militaries is going to take place. Now one of the main arguments that defenders of the bill make is that this is actually America first because it is a huge benefit to the United States to partner with the Israeli military, which is one of the most innovative in the world. That is the argument. Two of the programs that are actually held up as central to that argument are known as the Arrow missile defense program and also iron beam.

3:07Iron beam in particular really gets people's attention because it is this new laser technology that Israel says that it developed to be able to knock missiles out of the sky. That to anybody in Washington is going to sound extraordinarily impressive. Wow. The laser warfare. Amazing. And so Overtazio and I, over and put this element up on the screen over at Dropsite News, looked very closely at these two programs, how they were funded, who came up with the ideas behind them, kind of who drove them to completion. And you find a completely different story than the one that is told publicly effectively. You find that United States taxpayers, United States companies, United States universities were behind nearly all of the breakthroughs that led to these while it is Israel that maintains significant control over the IP.

4:07Why is that? Well, we have a thing called Congress and Congress insists that that be the case. We talked to a number of Pentagon officials who were involved in these projects throughout their development. One of them is David Pine. And he's joining us now to walk us through more of this. David, thank you so much for being here. Thanks so much for having me on. It's an honor to be on the show. Yeah, you got it. And so David is a former Pentagon official who worked on the Arrow 2 program, Veteran New York, former top national security aid for Representative Mike Lee. You currently are the deputy executive director of the U.S. Task Force on National and Homeland Security. When it comes to the Arrow 2 program in particular though, can you walk us through a little bit about what your involvement was in that program? Yeah, so I was serving as international programs manager on the Army headquarters staff and charge of all R&D armants cooperation with the Middle East, the former Perseverian,

5:10Eastern Europe, Africa, the Americas. So I don't know why I portfolio, but I did was involved in signing a member end of it, understanding Intel Veeve along with other DOD officials on the Arrow 2 program. And what struck me as unusual, at least up to that point, was that essentially, you know, we fully funded the program through not only just direct U.S. contributions, but the former military financing, which is essentially U.S. taxpayer aid to a country, in this case, Israel, which was about $3 billion a year at the time. So it was 100% funded by the U.S., but we were barred in the agreement from using, you know, the full technology in our own missile defense system. And missile defense has always been a passion of mine. I was very pleased to see George W. Bush get us out of the ABM treaty earlier that year.

6:12So it was really a focus of the United States of U.S. national security. And yet, and we were paying all this money, you know, billions of dollars over a period of 40 years now for the Arrow missile defense program. And we've never been allowed to fully utilize it. We've been able to utilize test data and that type of stuff, but not the actual sensitive design system. How does something like that even work? I mean, eventually Boeing ended up making component parts for the Arrow II. And so there's that U.S. involvement. But how does it work that the U.S. will have its own people involved with it? But what does it mean to not have access to the technology? And what did you argue for in your negotiations with the Israeli government? Why was this serving as a relatively low level GS14, you know, level official? So I really didn't have the opportunity to do a lot of arguing in favor of what I thought

7:13was best for America at that time. But yeah, it, you know, I would think that, you know, given that we fully funded the program, we should have had full access to that. Israel, of course, is a very secretive, you know, country. It's essentially a garrison state. I was there. I was just kind of surprised to see how many, you know, soldiers there were, you know, nearly half of them are women, young women that serve. And it's just a different society. It's relatively closed off. Obviously, there are democratic elections, but it's essentially a part that I'd state. But it's a country that, you know, talked about putting the, putting the arrow country first. Israel, you know, the one thing Israel does amazingly well is they put their country first. And that's something I'd love to see in here in America. You know, we've been putting America last, sadly under President Trump for probably the

8:14last year, year or more. But it's, yeah, it's something that shouldn't have happened, but Israel is a, it's been deemed a critical security threat in terms of intelligence. They've been, you know, stealing our technology for many years. And now with Section 219, you know, they won't need to steal anymore because we're going to give it to them. We're free. And it's interesting because a lot of the people who are very pro-Israel, pro-The American Alliance with Israel are also hawks on China who will be warning till they're blue in the face about China stealing technology. From your perspective, is this a giveaway to China and other potential non-al-wide countries who could end up with some of this technology and their, the know-how from some of this technology and their own arsenals? Well, I think that's a very valid concern. We've seen, I mean, Israel had their own way. They'd be selling probably all of the advanced US military technology. We give them.

9:14They had a record of doing that on multiplications up to 2000. The last time we know of an open source that they attempted to do so was in 2008, but they were dissuaded from doing so by President Bush who, you know, pressured the Israelis not to make the sales, the technology sales to China. But we know just in their terms of F-16 technology, they sold that to China in the 80s and 90s. I think it was the Israeli lobby fighter, which is essentially a development, the Israeli version of the S-16. And that was weaponized by the Chinese with their G-10 fighters. So that's just the example of what they could do. And so it's always been a major concern of mine that they could share our missile defense technology with China as well. We spoke with another contractor who worked in that joint office who said that, when it was on their desk, they would slow walk it as much as possible because they were

10:18constantly being told by the intelligence community that this was inappropriate. And that Israel was too much of a security risk because of particularly its relationship with the Chinese. The person said, I mean, quote, we had tons of intelligence to justify not sharing the information with Israel, but we were under pressure from Congress to figure it out and transfer the IP to Israel, said the contractor. No matter how much evidence the intelligence community produced, the response we received from DOD leadership was that it's Congressually mandated. Therefore, we have to execute on the program. Can you talk about that? Does that match with your experience? And what is the role that Congress plays in putting pressure on the DOD here? Yeah. And by my position, I had to sign off on acceptance to national disclosure policy for a number of countries. But I found out that the hard way that every time I decided to go against one of those exceptions that I was pressured into it designing off on it because it was the White House that

11:23was behind it. It wasn't just with Israel. There were other countries that I was concerned about that I thought were too much supportive of Islamists. And every time that I tried to make an exception, try to disagree with an exception, I was pressured into signing off on it. So I feel like that pressure certainly existed with Israel, which of course we're told constantly is our best ally in the world, essentially. And in fact, they don't act like an ally. They try to sink the US's liberty and kill all the survivors. They've, again, shared our technology with communist China. And they're a critical security threat when it comes to intelligence. So I think we need to reconsider the scope of our alliance, not necessarily a severe it all the way, but it might be nice to have a trial separation. It is astounding that when you lay all this out to the average person, they'd be like,

12:23what, what, who is defending this, who thinks this is a good idea. But since you've kind of been inside of those meetings and rooms, you're in a better position to kind of argue against, rather than the, the phantom idea of, you know, who, what these people are actually saying and why they're defending this, what they actually say. So what in, in your experience, do they really believe that this is good for America? Or are they, what, like, what's going through their minds? Because the average person, this sounds like it is obviously not an America first policy. And even in Michigan, like Abdul Al-Sayed is trying to look like he's America first, coming from a Democrat position because their opportunity is like this left and right to say we should have a foreign policy that's more aligned with the interests of our own country's priorities. So do they believe that this is America first or do they just not care? Well, I think there's a huge misconception, especially among Republicans and specifically Republicans and Congress that tend to be more of the neocon persuasion that really,

13:26I think sincerely believe they sincerely conflate the, the national security interests of Israel with our own. And I think the two are very, very different. I mean, we've seen seeing that played out during this disastrous Trump war against Iran, where, you know, Israel has, you know, killed off the moderates, the very moderate leaders that Trump claims that he handpicked to lead Iran, you know, Israel assassinated. They're very, you know, they've tried to assassinate the negotiators. They made multiple attempts. President Trump has made that clear. He's not happy about it. You know, and Israel acts, in that, you know, acts all the time to, you know, violate Trump's outstanding Gaza ceasefire agreement, you know, even the Lebanon ceasefire agreement, which was heavily weighted in favor of Israel. They've thrown that in the trash. So we see Israel flouting, you know, President Trump's foreign policy objectives, particularly peace, peace with Iran.

14:27Because essentially Trump is basically saying that he's, we're continuing to fight this war to bring Iran back to the peace table. And every time we try to get close to do that, it seems like Israel, you know, does something crazy to derail peace talks. And given that the Senate is now considering whether or not to move forward with the House-pass version of Section 2019, are you willing to either testify on the Senate side or speak to senators about your experience given that this is such a high stakes piece of legislation, and you're one of the, you know, people who has, you know, actual firsthand experience with it. Yeah, I'm absolutely willing to testify. I was at whistleblower against the Iraq war as well. I was actually dismissed from my position on the Army headquarters staff due to articles I wrote against Bush's plan to invade Iraq, worrying how much, how much disasters that would be in terms of empowering Iran and strengthen Iran, helping them essentially take over

15:30Iraq with, you know, Islamist Shiite proxy leaders. And we've seen that take place. There's been 600 known, you know, strikes from the Iraqi military, the PMF brigades that are sponsored by Iran that the U.S. pays for against U.S. Gulf allies. And in fact, they were also responsible for destroying the East West pipeline inside the Arabia. I was going to, you know, make that observation that is the reporting that the, that the East West pipeline, according to the reporting that we understand, was attacked from a Iraqi territory. We reported in the first segment of this, of this show that European shipments from Saudi Arabia to Europe have been shut down. Like Europe's not getting any oil from Saudi Arabia in the, in the back half of September. And there is, there is quite an irony that the country that, you know, we supposedly, you

16:31know, liberated is now, is now playing a significant role in that. I guess while we have you here, if you could just give us your thoughts real quickly on how you think President Trump, you know, could or will end this, this conflict and that is destroying, you know, everything that he built through his MAGA movement, but also it appears the global economy. Yeah, I think President Trump has two options before him that can end the conflict. And escalation is not one of them, by the way, and continuing the blockade is not one of them. These options are essentially to pull US forces out of the region. That's something he said he would do just yesterday. He said he was going to pull the US troops out of the region anyway. He didn't give a timetable and he said he might, he might reverse that if he wants to, decides to take the oil, which of course is impossible. We can't, you know, we can't even invade Iran, let alone take their oil. But, you know, I think that that's one possibility.

17:34General Michael Flynn talked to, you know, a former national security adviser has stated that he could declare victory. He could say it was part of a long planned strategic reset. He could point to his national security strategy as the foundation for why he's doing it. The other way, of course, is to re-implement the 60 day ceasefire MOU. The problem is Iran is demanding that all of the provisions that favor them are implemented at the front end of the agreement. So essentially, you know, the reparations, the 300 billion reparations unlocking 100 to 200 billion of their frozen assets and all of that type of stuff and combined with withdrawal of US forces anyway, which, you know, really it's not even feasible for us to keep US forces in the region because Iran has destroyed 13 to 16 US, US bases. And so, you know, we should pull a Trump should cite Ronald Reagan, you know, in 1983,

18:37after the truck bombing of the Marine barracks, what he'd Reagan do, he didn't start a war with Iran. He'd pull all US troops out of the Middle East except for Turkey. So I think that's the model for America first, is Ronald Reagan, a piece of strength. Well, David Pine, he's the deputy executive director of the Task Force on National and Homeland Security. He also writes the sub-stack, the real war. David, thank you so much for being here. Really appreciate it. Thanks, Roy and Emily. Have a great day. You too.

19:53You know, let me call that guy back. Stop turning down work. Start growing. Get the funding you need at capitus.com. That's K-A-P-I-T-U-S dot com. It's fall in America. Make it count. At the Ram Drive-In to Fall Sales event, make it powerful with our strongest Ram 1500 ever. Make it move with the Ram Heavy Duty with an available Cummins diesel and make it go with a distance with a 10-year or 100,000-mile powertrain limited warranty. Hurry and now for great deals during the Ram Drive-In to Fall Sales event. Excludes fully electric vehicles applied to 2026 model-year vehicles non-transferable. Visit mopart.com for complete details and a copy of the powertrain limited warranty. Come and visit registered trademark of Cummins Inc. Ram and Hemi are registered trademarks of FCA-US LLC. FBI Director Cash Patel was on Capitol Hill yesterday, getting absolutely grilled. Not just by Democratic senators, but also by Republican senators. Let's start with this exchange he had with Sheldon White House Democrat, of course,

20:53on the Epstein files. The only 302s that were released were the ones that did not mention Donald Trump. When the department was caught having held back the other ones, I think because bait stamps reveal their existence, the department then coughed up the 302s that did mention Donald Trump. But we still have 37 undisclosed pages that seem to be the contemporaneous FBI notes that would have formed the basis for the 302 summaries. Am I accurate in suggesting that those 37 pages likely include the FBI contemporaneous notes from those interviews? We have complied with the statute and the court orders and produced 3.5 million pages of documents for the first time ever. Investigators looked at the information in real time and the prior administration made

21:57the determinations on referrals for prosecution and not. We've also repeatedly stated if there's new information, we want everyone to come forward so that we can analyze that information as to what is and isn't remaining. So what are those 37 pages? I don't know what you're referencing. We've produced 3.5 million pages and we will continue to comply with it. Ryan, he appears to be referring there to 302s related to Donald Trump ratting out Epstein, right? That seem to be missing from the files. So Trump acted as a federal informant. There's 302, you know. Yeah, there are moments in there where Trump looks good. Like when he is like mad at Epstein, they had a falling out over Epstein was trafficking one of his staff and then they also had a falling out over a fight over both dating on the same property or something like that. So then yeah, he called the local cops on him. He should try.

22:57I don't understand. I don't understand. So think about this. There are good things that Trump can say about himself in these files. Yet he is still so reticent to release, you know, had to be forced to release what he did release and won't release the other parts, which really tells you something about what the rest of it is. Because if it's just Trump looking good and ratting him out to the police all day long, he's rolling with that. So White House wrote a letter to Cash Patel back in March saying, D.J. has not produced a Congress all records related to Jeffrey Epstein as the act requires, including documents related to sexual assault allegations made against President Trump in 2019. D.J. initially released just one record associated with FBI interviews of the accuser. Okay, so it looks like they're looking for 302s of the accuser. Then published additional records after these emissions were noted. It appears that 37 pages of records still have not been released, including FBI notes associated with agents interviews of the accuser.

23:58So he's not, as I originally said, he's not looking for more information on the Trump through to writing Epstein out. He's looking for 302s of informants who were claiming that Trump was guilty of sexual abuse. But to the point that White House is making, there are legal obligations. Thomas Massey sat right here and told us that they're baked into the legislation is potential for penalties if Cash Patel and other people at the D.J. do not comply with the accuser. The demand, the congressional demand, that they release all of these records. So if evidence emerges that they have records, they're sitting on a Democrat Department of Justice, Democrat Run Department of Justice and FBI could potentially find that evidence and bring it to the public. They would be in violation if they are knowingly withholding documents that should be released. And the Cash Patel and all these other guys are probably assuming they're going to get a pardon. But what if Cash Patel takes off Trump so bad that he doesn't get a pardon?

25:00He's like the one guy that doesn't get a pardon. It's a good point. He got some tough questions about flock cameras. Let's take a look here at E3. Private companies have and private municipalities and towns put up cameras around traffic circles and the neighborhoods in the like. They collect information on the FBI where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy, basically publicly available information. Where the FBI partners with these individuals is on a case-by-case basis and not a rolling access basis. We for the first time at the FBI have professionally partnered and officially partnered with more private sector individual companies and social media and AI. Okay. So FBI partnering with flock, not a surprise, but basically what he's saying right, Ryan. Yeah. Just describing the efforts to just basically film everything. Trump is now pro-flop, of course. Of course. It's a two-point. Incredible anti-instincts. Like one of the great political talents of several generations is just on the wrong side

26:03of absolutely everything now. Yeah, but it used to be the opposite. It used to have like this gut instinct. It did. Yeah. You know, it was a gut instinct of how to infuriate people. It's going great for him. Patel also got questions about showing up in the US men's hockey team. Olympic locker room after the win. Let's watch you too. And apparently you wanted to go to the Olympics. And you combine, you were at four days there and you did some quote work, a dinner with the ambassador, an hour with Italy counterpart operatives, 320 minute meetings of the security briefing and a 30 minute tour over four days. And then you barged into the celebration of our winning Olympic team. What were you doing doing that? Can't you let the players enjoy the joy of their own victory? What you'll never understand is the players who are my friends invited me into the locker room. What you'll never understand is that during that trip where 300,000 Americans went to Italy

27:08to participate in the games and watch them not a single security incident occurred. What you'll never understand is throughout the World Cup not a single security incident occurred because we stood a joint operation center up there. And the most important thing to come out of that trip besides the American men defeating the Canadians and celebrating the love of this country and inviting me into Dusa is the fact that we obtained the seizure and capture of China's most prolific hacker and returned them to the United States. And how about you trip to the Boondoggle Ranch? How many days off do you take? Because I took four this year. Well, you'll never understand. Ryan was busting out laughing. But I sometimes wish we had the audio turned on while we watched video close because watching Ryan watch Cash Patel was a real treat. The players invited him. You will never understand that Peter Welch. All my friends are just sitting right here off screen, off camera. You can see them. I will say I think it's true that probably like one or two of the players are friends with him and invited him. He's known to be a big hockey guy. But I'm not sure that's the best excuse. That's the point.

28:08Yes. For the FBI director crashing the locker room. Now, very bizarre exchange that I think dominated headlines actually yesterday from the Catholic Toss Money despite the fact, by the way, that Chuck Grassley ahead of the hearing released documents showing that Thomas Crox, the shooter and Butler, the alleged shooter and Butler, had his cremation paid for by an anonymous donor. This is an FBI records that Chuck Grassley released yesterday. There are all kinds of serious questions Cash Patel should be facing. We've covered a couple of them here. But social media could not stop talking. Could not stop talking about the many exchanges Cash Patel had over the FBI's new beastie ality policy, E1. What about the beastieality? Same thing because the regs wrote it up in a fashion before I arrived that addressed prostitution, beastieality, and trafficking. They were there before I got there. Tell me what it said before.

29:09It automatically disqualified any individual who participated on either side of it. Obviously, we are never going to hire the criminal. The side of what? The beastieality? Yes. So you disqualified the animal? Well, I don't think we have great canines, but we're not going to disqualify. Understand. And a lot of these cases, when human traffickers who are some of the worst individuals on planet earth, they don't just traffic you for prostitution. They traffic you for degrading acts of all kind and they force you into that type of conduct. And some of these individuals would go on to be law enforcement officers who qualified to be law enforcement officers and later applied to the FBI. I mean, this didn't, and this, these changes didn't start with you. Did somebody came to you and recommended? Yeah. Yeah. And when you saw beastieality, I say this with respect, the person who recommended it, why didn't you just say what planet did you parachute in from? Why do, why do I want to leave?

30:09Well, that was my initial. Why do I want to leave with my chin and get into beastieality? That was my initial response, Senator. But they then explained to me and showed me cases in which people were forced into it and had applied to the FBI. And so I thought they should be considered. It's not an automatic disqualification. That's all. Okay. So, I'm questioning there from Senator Foghorn, Leghorn, Republican of Louisiana, Dr. Kennedy. But, right, what it sounds like happened is that the FBI wants to work with victims who, like, hire victims to help the FBI. And some of those victims happened to have been people who were trafficked, probably for the purposes of pornography, into situations where there's beastieality and someone came to Capitol and said, they can't be disqualified. We don't want to disqualify people for this. I don't know. I'm trying to cut through the weirdness story. Yeah, that's, that's what happened. I think that's exactly right. I could have helped the FBI out with this.

31:11So here's what you say. Evergreen. If you were a trafficking victim, anything that you were forced to do while a trafficking victim does not automatically disqualify you from employment at the FBI. Right. Done. You don't need to go into a definitive list of all of the different things that people may be forced to do while in trafficking, unless you want Foghorn, Leghorn, making fun of you for your new policy on beastieality in the Senate. Yes. Which is exactly what happened. And also, totally reasonable policy. The subtext here is the FBI is having like a lot of other places, recruitment issues. And so they're trying to figure out ways that they can expand the pool of people. But also, if you're the FBI, you would actually have a particular interest in people who know

32:15trafficking because they've been victims of and survived it. So they would have more insight for law enforcement than others might. I don't even know how to land this plane. I mean, cash-puitiles, right? But there was a better way to write that rule. There also, I mean, swamped with suspicions from conservatives. And I think normal people across the board, I'm not sure that cash-puitile has the trust the American public exactly. But Butler continues to be a huge source of suspicion as those documents yesterday showed from Chuck Grassley, Mike Lee, pressed cash-puitile a bit on that and or a bit on what we still don't know about Butler. Same thing with the Charlie Kirk case. Obviously, as that goes to trial, there'll be even more pressure on the FBI when it starts to emerge, what the evidence is, what the evidence isn't. But he's in a very difficult spot. We'll see how long he lasts in the administration.

33:16He's a loyalist to your point, maybe not even by choice. He's a loyalist because he wants to have Trump's protection now that he's been in the job. I think that's actually a good observation, Ryan. So maybe he'll survive the whole thing. I don't know. Ryan doesn't know either. I am just glad that in this very dark era that cash-puitile is the head of the FBI, compared to... Imagine if they had put a competent, dedicated ID log who was committed... Matt Gaetz? Well, he'd probably find it. But imagine if you had a Stephen Miller figure also in charge of the FBI, using the awesome powers that the FBI does have. Instead of cash-puitile. Why are they bothering cash-puitile about his vacations? Take as many vacations as you want, bro. I want you partying. Join the US men's hockey team. Join them. Come back to the office enough to create dysfunction.

34:17I don't want you completely gone. But mostly. All right. Well, Ryan, you have a big interview that we have to get to next. Let's pivot there. So we can put this element up on the screen. This is from the Yemeni military media. And they write this a translation. Get ready for high quality footage of the downing of a Saudi F-15 fighter jet. And it's wreckage in the Marie government. This comes after reports throughout the night of the downing from Houthi officials and Houthi link journalists who say, I will kitey, who we're going to talk to in just one moment, had posted last night, breaking news. Yemen army announced they have shot down a Saudi fighter jet F-15 in Marie province. Mariebe is one of the only kind of oil rich areas of Yemen. Mariebe city is one of the lone holdouts of some of these Saudi-backed forces.

35:18There have been days of negotiations going on between, and we'll talk about that without book idea in a second, between the Antara law forces, otherwise known as the Houthis, and the kind of holdouts inside my Rebe city. Those negotiations have broken down very recently, and so the Saudis have sent in some F-15s to kind of try to bomb the area. And as was the big fear among Saudi backers, if you do that, you might get shot down, and it seems like very quickly in the Saudi effort to counteract these Antara law advances, they appear to already have lost a plane. The reports from last night were that one of the pilots died from his injuries, sustained during the explosion, but that the other has been captured. Again, this is unconfirmed at this point. But my take, curious for your take, I don't think Yemen media would post, get ready for high-quality

36:22footage of the downing of a Saudi F-15 fighter jet if they didn't have that footage. Like that is a... That is a very damaging thing to fake, because then, if you don't have it, then who's going to believe you ever again? No, I'm sure they do have it. I was very plausible that they would have the footage. It's almost at this point in plausible they wouldn't. Right, yes. And so Hussein Al-Bukhadi is a, yeah, many journalists who's based in Sanaa, and if you were watching the Friday show, we played a kind of extended section of his interview without Jazeera. I was like, this guy's good. This guy's sharp. So I reached out to him and did a fairly long interview that we can play for you guys here. Sounds good. Let's get to it. Clashes continue in Yemen between Ansar al-Ala and the Saudi-backed forces that are the proxies serving in the region with Ansar al-Ala, continuing to strike Saudi oil infrastructure and Saudi continuing to launch air strikes against Yemen.

37:27Joining us now is Yemeni journalists Hussein Al-Bukhadi to discuss the latest on the back and forth here. Hussein is a real privilege to have you here. Thank you so much for joining us. You're welcome. Thank you for having me. I knew I was a show. Yeah, you got it. So let's start with the predicament that Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, has found himself in. If you were, let's say, advising, obviously, you're a journalist. You're not an advisor to crown prince MBS, but if you were advising the crown prince at this point, what to do at this moment? What do you think your suggestion would be given the kind of state of play of the conflict now? I think my advice to him, it was before they have broke the truth that was signed in 2022. They have targeted Sanha Airport two months ago because what the Mohammed bin Salman have thought of, they let that civilian aircraft will land.

38:31It could damage the reputation of Saudi Arabia as the leader of the coalition against Yemen and the coalition war. So I will advise him to ignore that, like a swine. Because now what's happening is the entire Saudi under attack. So I will advise him not to break the ceasefire because I'm sure that the other side is waiting for you to break the ceasefire. And it's exactly what happened. He thought letting that air flight will damage the image. But now we see that the attack has come all across Saudi Arabia. And they will advise him as well that demand of Ansarullah or the Yemeni armed forces in Sanha'a was simple before they Saudi broke the truth. It was to stop and lift the blue gate against Yemen, open Sanha Airport, pay the salaries of Yemeni from gas and oil revenue that's under the control of Saudi Arabia.

39:33And Saudi Arabia doesn't need gas and oil revenue. They have 12 billion barrel a day. So it will be like things like that. Stop it. There is no need to continue intervening in Yemen because we have seen what's happening since 2015. The first time in history that the Saudi Arabia and the oil infrastructure has come and been under attack. So is it your understanding from your sources in Ansarullah that if Saudi Arabia would end its blockade and end the war against Yemen, that Ansarullah would end its attacks on Saudi Arabia? Is it that simple? And what is the next step after that? To be honest with you, now is not that simple. The demand of today is different than demand of yesterday. The demand of today is different than demand before two months before they struck the airport

40:34because it will be silly that you are now half the upper hand. You have almost limited Saudi air cover for the back forces in Yemen. There's one of the reason why Yemeni Air Force here in Sanha are advanced. And because there have been targeted military bases in Saudi Arabia, the largest air base in Hamid's Moussaid, King Khalid Air Base, and as well King Fahid Air Base in the Saudi Arabia, Ansarullah they have anti-aircraft missiles that actually has affected the Saudi ability. So now the demand of Yemen actually is a total withdrawal from Yemen from the Saudi to stop any front to any groups inside Yemen, to stop interfering in Yemen. As well lifting the blue kite and allowing flight and a full lift with the blue kite on the radar port. The radar port only received some ship but they are forced to go first to Djibouti and

41:35they stay there for one to four months as they say for search. And it's actually affecting Yemenis and only bulk carrier or bulk ship that comes to the day that the rest are forced to go to Aden which under control of the Saudi. So now the demand are actually different because if Ansarullah the Saudi will come back to the same demand that they were put in 2022 which were symboled as one of the mentioned. Lifting the blue kite, more flight to Sanha Airport to be the scenario for a Yemen revenue. But now if we go back to this same demand as 2022 or 2023 when we had that so-called roadmap agreement, this means we will start like we will go back to the beginning. There is no guarantee that Saudi will use that as they used from 2022 to build up army bases to build up airport across Yemen to build up their back forces.

42:36So now I'm sure different than we have seen the latest attack against Saudi Arabia just in the last maybe ten hours ago they have launched attack against Jeddah, Yambork, Abha, Khammish Mushayet, Najran, Jadhan, Aasir and this is the first time since the beginning of the aggression against Yemen in 2015. The Yemen has launched that a large scale attack. Of course there is no official statement at this point for Yemen but there is no one attacking Saudi Arabia or the Yemenis. Right. I wanted to put up a post of yours from, I believe is earlier today or yesterday, where you shared some video that was going around of battle and Al Jaf. But you made a point that I wanted you to unpack a little bit for us. You wrote here a footage released by the Yemeni army showing the attacks against Saudi back forces in Al Jaf province, North Yemen. You can see clearly how Saudi mercenaries keep wandering in the desert so that Saudi media will show that as an advance and control of Al Jaf. They are just a sitting duck for Yemeni fighters.

43:40Can you unpack for people what you mean by that, what you're seeing on the ground and what that says more broadly about Saudi Arabia's ability both to project power and also to defend itself? Yeah. I mean if you say this clearly in this video you see like armored vehicles on Toyota pickup vehicles, they go like from the left to the right and they keep wandering in that area. Regarding Al Jaf is at the border of Saudi Arabia, North of Yemen. It between Saada, North of Yemen, and as well as Haderamot, North East Yemen. This Al Jaf is almost the entire area is desert. The government has liberated and it's control of the east of Al Jaf. This east of Al Jaf has only 500,000 civilians. Almost all of them are in the west area of Al Jaf. Just maybe 50% of the side of Al Jaf.

44:42The rest is a desert. There is nothing there. So what does Saudi do? They bring troops either from the south of Al Jaf or from Saudi Arabia in the north and they just keep driving in the desert. You can't drive there maybe for maybe 50 kilometers or more or 100 kilometers. You will didn't find anything. They drive there and they show in the media that we are advancing and this is Al Jaf or they will find a small hill or a small mountain that people will know in Al Jaf to show that they are in that area. And there's only to take footage. But still the Yemeni art forces are in control of the major mountain that's maybe in the east of Al Jaf which oversees the desert. And you can see now in that video how the Yemeni art forces has been targeting those troops with artillery shell, with guns, with drones and with ballistic missiles. So Saudi just because to cover the area that was in the east coast and as well to try

45:44to recruit more Yemenis and more mercenary because when they see those type of videos but from the eye of the Saudi media they will see those hundreds of tracks that you saw in that video going forward and no one in front of them. And as soon as they come under attack they're not going to show that they will cut it and they do even act. They just go to an open area and just keep shooting at a hill or a truck or a small mountain and there is no one that I mean you cannot leave there to have a base there either for us or for them. You need an area to have water to have water with water supply or at least to have the city or an nearby village where you have shops. So this is actually the shows. This video actually shows the thing that I had been explaining to many outside the media and thanks God that the video has came today. And how does that compare to what you saw on the west coast or what the advancing onto there are a lot of forces saw on the west coasts of Yemen when they got there. There were reports that upwards of say four out of five of the mercenaries who were

46:50supposed to be in the Saudi backed coalition weren't even there. We're kind of ghost soldiers where the commanders were just pocketing the money and telling their commanders that oh yeah we have 1000 men under our command and when in fact they might have say 200 men. How significant of a phenomenon has that been? Now to be honest with you this is not the case but we've seen that this report that has been released at some time by international media. I believe because the O.D. reputation was really really damaged and the back force of the Yemen because of that. So I can say that is this actually information that's released by the Saudi they want to show that it's not their failure that those commanders were lying and they but let me make it sure that all the soldiers and all the commanders in this especially Tarik Salah. They were loyal to the United Arab Emirates and United Arab Emirates they were better than the Saudi in getting equipment to their back forces in Yemen and they were building the

47:52bases they were building the bases like from A to Z. Like an operation room with the view on the satellite internet and all that thing and some footage have shown that was released in the last few days but we've seen that a nice Arab Emirates because the area was important to them they have built in the area that was controlled in the west coast and Babel Mandab. It's a small area about maybe the coastal area could be maybe 2,400 kilometers but this without the mountains all of the area is 4,400 but the area of the coast it could be only 2500 kilometers square kilometers just imagining mocha there's a huge airport building mocha they say for civilians I mean I said okay I could understand that because it's a city but south of mocha between mocha and Babel Mandab just inside the coast of Yemen there is another large airport and that was built by the United Arab Emirates and large air base

48:57in that area just 20 kilometers south of mocha and other moon island another airport was built in Zookar Island in the retreat just of the coast of mocha another airport was built and this Zookar Island is inhabited so just imagine this infrastructure that was built and they rec�urated tens hundreds of thousands of soldiers and just now they are what they are saying that is because of this that there were names of soldiers that they were not there this is actually not true the road between mocha to Babel Mandab was full during the withdrawal was full of tracks armored vehicles for several kilometers and Ansarallah let them they left the roads out of mocha open because they don't want to you know as Yemeni to kill each other they always before they take initiative they always leave a road open so when they advance from the north of mocha the

49:57south of mocha road and I have published like a map I drove on it while where Yemeni are forces at before the fall of of of mocha because they know if you leave for your enemy road when he feel the danger because he's fighting for the Saudis but for the liberation of Yemen he will just rather to go and take that weapons and sell it like they did when they arrived in Aiden and the cost of near Aiden they were selling all the weapons or the instead of fighting and get killed because they're command that was the first one to to to to to to run away and as well they have been saying that there is that Ansarallah like half with E.R. used the voice of Tariq Salar and seemed like to to the fighter to withdraw and all that know is is all the thing is that now Yemeni army because we have limited and obstruct the Saudi Air Force 90 percent of the strength of the Saudi back forces was this was the Saudi cover and Air Force because every area they have controlled

51:03since 2015 Saudi used to use garbage bombing to that area either civilian area or in our mountain or a hill or a coast that's why they advanced to Redayda but because that does not now exist because of the attack from Yemen against their main air base in in in the south and central Saudi Arabia Yemeni have as well missiles I'm sure that we can hear in the coming days that Yemeni would shoot one or two of the Saudi fighters that we remember that United States had admitted that Yemeni army side they were about to shoot down F 35 and as well they were about to shoot F 16 there was like three or five five fighter different the United States and Yemeni has launched missile against them they had like to maneuver and because they have maneuvered on the sky of Odayda to avoid dozens of missiles that were launched they were about to run a fuel so United States has to send another refueled plane and they have said that and they have as well given that the leader of that

52:03group of the fighter jet like they gave him I don't know like a star or like to recognize what he did just imagine this with the United States what Yemeni are doing now with with Saudi and as well the attack against Saudi Arabia against an Amco it would prevent as well Saudi to launch the same attack and extract the used to lams if there is any war in one area Yemeni so used to launch 300 to 500 areas strike in one day the advanced in area now they launched in the entire Yemeni maybe on a day maybe 150 areas like across Yemen you can just imagine that the amount of that we have reduced those areas like and one of the reason because Saudi knows if they will try maybe to conduct the same amount of air strike like hundreds a day on on mocha they know that at that point will launch hundreds of missiles against all Saudi oil infrastructure and around infrastructure and airport and airport so Yemeni either when we are fighting to liberate our country when we are fighting to lift the bluecade against Yemen when we do all that we still give

53:12the Saudi a chance we still are not attacking everything in Saudi Arabia just to let them think if you do more we will do as well more right so you mentioned that the airport was struck in July by Saudi Arabia which you know really precipitated this entire situation but the answer allow response could have been much more much smaller like it a decision was made to go on the offensive from from your reporting what do you understand about how long this plan has been in the works and and why they decided to launch this significant of an offensive at at this moment rather than at any other moment yeah if you see the attack against Saudi response to the Saudi target in the Sanaa airport and breaking the ceasefire we consider that they consider it as a cancellation of the of the truth what they did in Yemen they target at the airport here I mean I

54:18was angry the people here were angry they said they target Sanaa and the target airport you should target react and react airport but Yemen were still like consider it they they they they they do want to war with Saudi Arabia they just want our country to be liberated they focused on the bluecade they have stopped Saudi ship and declared looked to allow Saudi ship to go through the retreats but this ground attack they came after what because Saudi Arabia after they took control of all the races especially in in mohkat which was under the control of the night Arab Emirates they have been sending more weapons and more training and all type of weapons and communication system like they're trying to to make that area like like make it more more stronger and as soon as the Saudi progress is why and we form the bluecade in the sea so we have targeted the Hudaid airport we didn't target the umba before we haven't done that so we did the one in in the retaliation of our attack against ship they have a target the Hudaid airport and then after that we expanded

55:22on target the umba so what happened in Yemen underground there many has not launched any missile or any single shot against any Saudi back forges in in the area but what the Saudi did the Saudi in the last two months they have expand their fund under money under weapons that's been sent to to areas under the Saudi back force control maybe four times more why because they know they cannot face uh Sanha army so they they sent to do a group that's why Sanha was kind of in a dilemma if we don't attack and even if you see in the media that belong to the Saudi back forces they will show in footage drone footage attacking position of Yemeni armed forces as they call them Ansarullah they are still racial and bombing in many areas in mocha and even before the fight started in marib and

56:24in jove and they were speaking about that in their media but Yemeni were kind of in a dilemma here in Sanha if we we don't want to fight with Yemenis but Saudi now when they are ready when they are setting the plan they're going to attack us at one point Ansarullah they broke the ceasefire by targeting Sanha airport and those troops in Yemen considered as a part of the Saudi let's coalition we can attack them and target them either without uh like um the what I explained you that the troops coming from Saudi and enforcement as soon as Saudi uh target the airport we have the right to target Saudi and as well the back force in Yemen so Yemen took the decision to launch missiles against those groups and those the evil attacked and uh trucks that were coming from the Saudi border towards marib and towards the al-Jove and they target them in the road and they show a footage of that so we had to do that and Ansarullah we have the right because there is no more

57:26truth but we delayed that action just to respect not to have to kill each other on this exactly what what what the Saudi what the Saudi want that's why I think it will be more escalation uh for them Saudi here in Yemen they ready Saudi will stop and stop interfering Yemen it will be a simple and there is one more important point before 2002 2022 before Yemeni Saudi back forces were just in in in in in Nihm uh mountain it's just east east of Sana'ah Yemeni before doing that major attack that that reached the outskirts of marib in 2002 uh 2022 they have sent an initiative to al-Arada which is the leader of the Saudi back forces on the governor of marib they said look we don't want to attack you we don't want to target you but you can keep your weapons you can say the governor you can stay in control of the area that you are in but stop attacking us

58:26because they were close to Sana'ah we want to fight the Saudi let us fight with the Saudi face to face and then after that we will talk with each other if we didn't agree you still have your weapons and I still have my weapons you still have your position your land and I still have my it's not that we can we can we get a forcing through negotiation here if you use that what happened Yemeni armed forces have declared that uh uh that was uh at war before the that was an operation uh called al-Bunyan al-Marsos I don't know how to translate it in in English so and and they took they advanced they till they reached the outskirts of marib marib is is 14 uh area district or 14 directory it contained 14 directory Yemeni armed forces before 2022 they have liberated they are in control of 12 what's left is only marib city and and as well the so-called the desert or the wadi district only those two but uh all the population and most of the population of mar of that

59:28two directory is in marib so it's it's kind like like mocha in the west coast and you have mocha is exactly the same like marib here they we are controlled all the west coast and then we we came around the mocha and then it took only a few minutes it's exactly with marib we are in control of most of the populated and most important area and mountains around marib is only the city that's left and I believe that marib will be exactly like marib like mocha and it could be as well easier because the fighter that they are in marib they are not from marib they are not from the tribal areas either that 12 directory that are in the hand or or the other two most of them they are from outside and they belong to the muslim brotherhood because muslim brotherhood and Saudi back forces has been defeated from many area from Yemen they all went there if they do so has run away from from mocha they can maybe that so either the people in marib they are not happy with that and I'm talking about

1:00:32marib's purpose not marib city was still under the control of the Saudi back forces all the marib people there they are not happy with that because those they consider them as foreign fighter you come to my city to fight because they pay you that's why I think at one point that marib it will be easy and and they will run away as exactly as they did before as long as there is no cover from Saudi Arabia by air strike even though Saudi Arabia is trying but we we we we we determine that or like kind of stop them back I don't think that they will be the entire region will be Yemen will be liberated and the same initiatives that was before the same initiative has been put just weeks ago before entering mocha or liberating the coast it was this initiative was put to marib and to mocha and to two months ago before the fight start look look what's on us do before the fight start they ask Tarik Saleh and they say keep your weapons stay in your area don't hand us any weapons let us fight

1:01:35with the Saudi face to face don't stop us in the back we don't want to kill Yemeni to kill Yemeni uh will you agree for that he he said no I am with the with the Saudi let coalition I will do what they say and he started receiving weapons this was after the attack against the airport and he didn't stop a receiving weapons and like target with those drones that they have so I think at that point Yemen has decided because of you don't do so this means that Saudi as one point and Saudi were waiting for the United States to end the war with Iran or to have a truth they were come to us and Saudi was waiting for the United States and for Trump because what what those United States and the Zionists had been doing they've been signaling out the acts of resistance country by country start with Gaza and then when they done with Gaza remember as Abdullah was was was launching missiles against Israel but Israeli response was limited because they will busy with Gaza as soon as they finished with Gaza I mean the resistance still exist but I mean

1:02:37yeah they want to his bullet and focus all the attack on his bullet as soon as they finished was Syria through the terrorist the one that julyani he was like in the list for 10 million and now he's the president and when the end of Syria they want to Iran just imagine Iran has it launched even Iran has a clown's attack as an exacting support of the guys that let's say that Israel think that okay like Yemen did so it was coming to Yemen that's why Yemen either those Saudi had broke the ceasefire Yemen have decided the best way to to to to to to to defend is to attack does if Saudi Arabia doesn't end this war do they face any risks when it comes to their own territory because they don't seem to be able to defend anything at this point yeah I mean I spoke with this in an interview yesterday I'm it done viral in in YouTube it was an like an Arabic kind of Arabic channel and because I'm I mean I'm not I don't represent Ansarullah

1:03:41usually that's why I can speak my mind more so I'm not but what I think that Yemen have different stage against the Saudis first of all we say it's a blue cake against blue cake our airport against our airport we we still now we are not targeting civilian airports in Saudi Arabia if they target an airport you're targeting we are not targeting a civilian port only if they when they target a radar we but now we we focus on the air bases of the Saudi and the Zoological Aramco facility and even we target Aramco facility maybe two weeks ago inside of Saudi Arabia why we did that Saudi has been launching strikes against Yemen and here in Yemen Yemen armed forces haven't announced any any of the strike because they were in the battle field they said it's okay they are not affecting our advance even they were advancing on Mokal we we will ignore it we don't want like to to to to make it all outward what does Saudi did they have

1:04:44targeted a prison in a job killing dozens including women and children and they targeted during the visit in our that's why when Yemen have targeted Aramco facility just imagine Saudi has launched 120 air strike in those in that at that time in two days Yemen it didn't attack but when they launched attack against the prison Yemeni had to take a stand otherwise I mean people here may be will rise up against him we are I mean why they target Aramco in jazan in Najran and in Aasi in Abra and in in in Najran so this is like a stage if you target our civilians we're not going to target your civilians and cities we will target Aramco on the second stage I mean it will be all Aramco across Saudi Arabia because our blood is not is more important to us than the Saudi oil the Saudi that was at the beginning Saudi thought that they could shed the Yemeni blood and another

1:05:47stage will come it's like to target all their airports and ports doesn't matter civilian or military and as well the water plant I believe that me if I was the commander of the Yemeni Air Force I would have this this plan I mean if we see that there is a great aggression against Yemen or that the Saudi like let's say is winning and things like that and destroying Yemen infrastructure as they did in the last 10 years in 2015 we will exactly target but that we will leave it at the end because we don't want to affect civilians in Saudi Arabia I mean that they will die from thirst so but about the border Yemeni still have this solution but if they enter Najran and jaydan and asif this means we will not come out of it even if the Saudi back to it and even if they say we will drop from all Yemen we will stop what you want any demand you want we will agree what we will say that time if I were the commander of inshaAllah or the emiryan I will say the command of

1:06:52the demand of today is not like the demand of yesterday the demand of today is not like the demand of of of after mocha because Yemen is maybe always the one the same with 99% of Yemen is still considered Najran and jaydan and asif as a proven that belong to Yemen and they were taken by the Saudi in the 30s or the 20s from our Imam at that time is like the king they they talk it because they got support from the united kingdom when the knight kingdom has bombed Hodeida and they had mercenary and Yemen is like Saudi have now and and Hodeida was the only lifeline for Yemen and at that time they had an agreement that the united kingdom will and the mercenaries will draw from areas and Hodeida and will stop for the bombing of Hodeida and Yemen will like give those through province to Saudi Arabia but they signed an agreement called at five at five agreement is the same name the agreement that signed for the Lebanese in Saudi I didn't know why they call

1:07:54it all at five I mean look like that we are short of names so yeah so and in that agreement that that Saudi will and the agreement why Imam did the agreement because at that time he was weak but he did an agreement that that agreement still say that this is our land and this mean that if by one he give like to any president in the future or any king if Yemen at one point will be strong they can take it and they have the right to take it because he knows that Saudi will not fulfill and in the agreement Yemen could go to Saudi Arabia using their ID they don't any visa they he will treat Yemeni as he treated the Saudis look look the Imam at that time he had the vision he knows Saudi he knows that the oil that that will be people and as well that Saudi Arabia will not interfere in Yemeni business will not attack Yemen will not target Yemen will not support any group and they will not even try to make other country or threaten us through other country

1:09:00this the agreement was so Saudi have actually since the the republic has raised the Abin Yemen in 1962 the revolution against Imam so the Saudi Arabia has been interfering in Yemen so the Arabia as well later in the last maybe 30 40 years has been treating Yemenis the really bad so so so and Saudi on the top of that they have launched a coalition war and aggression against Yemen launched in more than 300,000 air strike declaring that coalition from Washington through the Saudi ambassador Al Jubeil is the first war you declared against your neighbor from another country killing directly by air strike maybe 20,000 Yemeni civilians and about 400 between 300 to 400,000 Yemeni civilians have died because of the bluecade severe malnutrition malnutrition lack of water preventable diseases at the United Nations have said cholera malaria so all that that's why Yemen if you see the

1:10:05always focusing on the bluecade the bluecade is killing more Yemenis and the closure of the airport than it the direct air strike so that's why the Saudi border if Yemen will go inside those areas I'm sure they will not withdraw why because if they withdraw they will bear the shame for all our generation maybe till till till till the judgment day that look at one point we were strong and that agreement that was signed and now is in our favor that we could say the Saudi that they have broken and now you answer that you have gone inside and you controlled and you are strong and you are you have left it but this actually will be the last solution and to show you how good our government here and our leadership what we are asking now the Saudi we are not asking them to withdraw from Najran and Jaisan and Asir we are asking them to withdraw from Yemen to stop killing Yemenis and we will have peace with them and Yemeni air insanaaz basically our leader

1:11:07said Abdul Malik if he signed an agreement even with the death like with the United States when you stop attacking the United States and they stopped attacking us it wasn't like there wasn't an agreement but it was Yemen demand stop attacking us and we will stop attacking you of course Trump has made it like that he won he said at the beginning when he launched attack he said I will not stop unless they stop targeting our ship and our allies ship but when we have agreed not to target each other he said I defeated the whole thing they can't begin to me would stop and we stopped they get us we get us stopped targeting them and they will stop targeting our ship he hasn't mentioned about the the the the allies ship and who's other allies is is right so look even with that we have respected that is in our religion we know that if you if you lie or if you don't respect an agreement a God will punish you how would get an advantage you he make you lose the next battle and either the attack against Iran with the attack against the uh yeah Iran and

1:12:10Yemen has not and they always say Yemen is is is is like linked and they are receiving command uh from Iran I mean Yemen could actually block the Ritzi when Iran was under attack in the 12 days of war or as well now before but today waited till Saudi has broke that ceasefire and what the funny thing I mean I had many interviews with us today and the first question why you are targeting Saudi ship as soon as you seized the the Babylon Mandel straight they totally forgot that Yemen has uh targets Saudi oil tanker two months ago if before they reached the cost of Babylon them Yemen has been targeting Israeli ship to root up the genocide so we do need to be at the cost to block the Ritzi we were blocking the Ritzi we were targeting ship in far north of the Ritzi in the in the Gulf of Aden and the Arabian Sea so but the main thing about controlling that area is to liberate Yemen and this is actually that the largest so they say why don't you target American

1:13:11ship now why don't you target Israeli ship at this point but look look look uh uh uh uh uh uh uh hypocrite are those uh media outlet when we were targeting Israel and United States you only targeted and bridge only when they launched the prosperity card then when we target in the ship to help our brother and sister in Gaza to stop the genocide to do something that we can and demand and to stop the killing all these countries they will tell us why you and the condemn us and they say as a piracy why do you are targeting the ship in the sea but now when we are targeting not targeting they say why why don't you target and let American ship or to go through through through through uh Ritzi this actually show you who we are uh uh fighting it just one final thing and maybe it's gonna make you laugh during the war before the truth 2022 when Yemen was launched attack against United Arab Emirates or against United Arab Emirates backed for the

1:14:13start of Yemen at that time that this agreement between Saudi and United Arab Emirates start to like to show up on will target the United Arab Emirates and their back forces in Yemen Saudi and the Saudi backed forces in Iran another area they will celebrate in that when we were targeting Saudi Arabia and targeting Saudi backed forces in Yemen United Arab Emirates backed forces and United Arab Emirates themselves they were celebrating that but when we target the Zionist ship and we will fight the prosperity guardian or the Palestinian people to lift the the attack to lift the blue head against Palestine to help the Palestinian people and we were the only country to do so targeting ships and night state battleship since uh war war two all those countries were against us all those backed forces were condemned us it's all about Zionist state of Israel if you are good with them no one will attack you you will be fine like United Arab Emirates or like Saudi so it's show you they show everyone who's watching who we are fighting is okay for United Arab Emirates

1:15:16and their back forces that we kill other Yemeni that's loyal to Saudi or kill a Saudi I'm the opposite as well for those side to kill those sides but when we try to stop the genocide and attack Israel they all against that I also wanted to ask you before you go about the 73 UN aid workers that have been detained by Ansar al-A' my understanding is that as a result humanitarian access to humanitarian aid has gone significantly down you know the UN and other aid agencies are nervous you know sending aid workers in why are they why are they still detained it's not only obviously you know an international incident but also a netical perspective what why yeah yeah I know I know I mean I've been speaking to Ansar al-A' and I said if there's anyone like we don't have any like a solid proof that he's like what's fine with something like that you should

1:16:18you should release him because to be honest it just is damaging the reputation more than helping our cause to liberate Yemen but if you look why why did that happen I mean it's not that I'm giving like excuse of our government here but it happened after the attack that have killed our entire government right and the area that the aid worker used to work is near that area but it was targeted it was like a secret meeting until and just imagine so there is there is kind of of reason and it's not only that those UN workers they have arrested other people in that neighborhood so there is still people I mean my neighbor as someone I know uh he's uh he's with with with with with with with with Ansar al-A' he even hashi me as we say like he's linked to the prophet Muhammad and he's a good friend of mine his brother he was arrested

1:17:23and he's considered like from Ansar al-A' and others so when it comes to the security of Yemen they don't care are you with the international are you working with this agency are you but what I'm asking them and I did as well before like I mean some of them just if there is any process make it quick you make it to the late but to be honest with you I mean if you see some people think that those international NGOs that it cannot be that one will be like a spy no it can because United States and the signs they have used everything we remember that that maybe it's something like no not related to Yemen but the related to his incident uh when they assassinated and killed the Aladdin the United States had an idea and everybody can search I mean uh can say to anybody who I'm not in the stone age that you cannot find anything that I can lie and no one can find out Aladdin what they did they know the area or maybe the house and the neighborhood where the Aladdin is and they might have that thinking he lead in in in maybe in that compound or house

1:18:28but they want to make sure because that area is inside Pakistan and to attack and kill someone is not related to Pakistan it could make like be a bad reputation for the Pakistani if you though the Pakistani government I believe it's always been a lines covering the Pakistani people they are free and good man so what they did they sent a doctor with the so-called like an uh support and aid and agency from outside who do vaccination for children uh that kind of vaccination that to avoid that the kids will be paralyzed you give it to your uh one month older two month old baby so they use that and they were taken DNA because it is by mouth from all the children in the neighborhood and so of course they have the DNA of Aladdin from from from from the brother or you know they have it till they made sure the exact house and then they target the Aladdin and they killed the Aladdin what did that entire area the tribal area that uh or that city or

1:19:34what the all the tribesmen in that area which is north of Pakistan they have kicked all the agency that gave vaccination to children and that affected more than 100 000 children is because of what it because United States want to to take the Aladdin they have affected the life of hundreds of thousands of of of of of children in the tribal area of Pakistan because those tribes as soon as they heard that what the United States did they considered that agency maybe that agency was working in the tribal area I have nothing and it was doing a good job I'm going to say that they are doing it but this is the United States they have been using journalists they have been I mean so so that's why they are cautious but I'm sure and I hope that they will make the process really quickly if there is no solid evidence you didn't keep anyone in prison yeah it personally drives me insane when governments use journalists for those purposes

1:20:35because that's the last that's the last one right yeah all the work of journalists yeah right right well Hussein I really appreciate your time thank you so much these are certainly interesting times indeed Yemen you welcome thank you very much for having me and hope to see you soon let does it for us on today's edition of breaking points thank you so much for tuning in we're going to head and do the AMA now we're going to do a live and that is for everyone who wants to make soccer sad if you've already made soccer sad right now you have access to the AMA live because you signed up as Ryan instructed you to do so on a Wednesday after Ryan makes his pitches that's right you you sign up at breaking points that first thing you're getting is this AMA there you go it's huge yeah it's huge and Ryan will deliver in the AMA you will get your value you will get your money for it that's good stuff absolutely all right everyone thanks so much for tuning in breaking points.com if you want to get a premium subscription we have a free monthly trial running right now otherwise we'll see you back here with more soon

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