9-29-26 The Nightcap with Gary Jeff Walker

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2:02Steifel has never stood still. From embracing an entrepreneurial spirit, to empowering advisors with AI-powered tools to enhance, not replace, judgment. We're dedicated to being the advisor of choice for clients, the investment of choice for shareholders, and the firm of choice for associates. Steifel, where success meets success. Learn more at ChooseSteifel.com. Steifel Nicholas & Company Incorporated Member NYSE and SITC for JD Power 2026 Award Information Visit JDPower.com slash awards, compensation provided for using not obtaining the award. It is the nightcats, but 700 WLW into episode two of the new nightcats season for 2026. When I found out about this opportunity, I couldn't wait. And through all kinds of hoops and other things that we've gotten to get here to this point, it is my proud pleasure, my humble pleasure, to introduce you to the great Kenny Anderson,

3:03who is doing a media tour. He's been talking a lot. Let's see if he's got anything left for us. But all over the country. And he's been speaking on behalf of this heart flow, game film registry, which is a program designed to analyze the heart health of former professional athletes with the goal of improving the standard of care. Not just for them, but for everybody. And he's been through his own journey with this. And here he is, Kenny Anderson. Welcome to the show. Well, thank you, Gary. I appreciate you really appreciate you having me. No, no, I appreciate you being had, Ken as I like to say to all my guests. So what I wanted to get to just some nuts and bolts football stuff first. And we'll talk about the reason that you're actually on with me tonight. But the football stuff is number one. Without question, the ring of honor thing with the vingles was more than more than ready to happen.

4:10It should have happened almost instantly that the day you retired if they'd had a ring of honor. But the the Canton thing still alludes a lot of people. And I'm sure it's not something that you think about. I don't know if you think about it or not. But there are so many people who are knowledgeable about professional football and watched your career and the things you accomplished. He who aren't even bingles fans who think that guy should have a gold jacket. Do you ever think about that? Well, only when people like you bring it up, but you know, people say, you know, are you disappointed? You didn't get in. And I said, no, I said, when you don't expect something, you're not disappointed. If you don't get it. And you know, coming from a real small town, the table and the oil, small high school going to a division three school log of standard college, you know, that was never a goal for me that to be in the Hall of Fame. And you know, to be in my high school hall of fame, my college

5:10hall of fame and the vangle ring of honor, that ain't too bad for a kid from Augustana College. No doubt about it. In the bingles, most recent Super Bowl loss of which there been three. And you were part of the one in the early 80s. Which one do you think cut the most? Which one do you think hurt the most as far as the expectations and the hype? And I mean, you guys should have won both those Super Bowls in the 1980s. You know, and I think, you know, for a personal standpoint, when you're the one playing, that's always the one that's going to hurt the most. But you know, I think when you look back on, you know, the last one they were in and you know, they had a shot on the last play. And you know, Joe had a guy open and didn't have time to find him. So I mean, at least it wasn't against the 49ers. I mean, losing three of them would have been disastrous. How do you rate Joe Burrow in

6:12pecking order of great quarterbacks that have played in the league through, you know, through all of eternity in the NFL? Well, I don't know. He is a great quarterback. And it's hard to compare quarterbacks, you know, that are playing now, let alone from different eras. But I know right now I'll take him over anybody in the league. Oh, I would agree with that. You know, Patrick Mahomes may be close, but Joe just seems to have all of the vision and all of the things that you're looking for in a great field general. And he knows the offense. He knows the players. He knows the defenses for the most part and is seldom fooled. But you were you were amazing in the fact that you got so much out of the innate talent you had and brought it to the highest levels, the highest echelons of the NFL. What's the grind like for anybody who plays in the NFL

7:14after Sunday? What happens the next day? Do you feel the the hits more on Monday and Tuesday than you do after the game on Sunday? Well, I sometimes you do and I think, you know, it's just, you know, you try to recover as best you can. And certainly, I think the players now, they have an advantage with not only the medical knowledge that's available now, but the resources to help them recover. So, you know, it's just like I say, it's tough to play on Thursday. I said, luckily I never had to do because your body's just starting to feel better than, but, you know, because these guys, I give them a lot of credit. They show up weekend and weekend. So when did you develop this acute awareness of your heart health? And because I mean, that's the engine. If that stops beating, the rest of the car breaks down on the side of the road. And, you know, but when did Ken Anderson become more heart aware?

8:15Well, I think it happened not too long ago when the heart flow people came and spoke at our local NFL players association meeting. And the fact that stuck out to me that, you know, one in three retired players passed away from heart disease. And, you know, that was kind of an eye opening moment for me. And, you know, that's when I I signed up to go through the heart flow analysis. You know, which was really easy, you know, they lined me up with a doctor who, you know, set me up to get a non invasive coronary CTA scan and went through that. And now with the technology that heart flow has through AI, they can go ahead and generate a 3D view of your heart and and coronary arteries to talk about blockages. And in my case, you know, they can locate not only what kind of plaque you have, but the amount and words located. And, you know, after all going

9:17through all this and the meeting with the doctor, it was determined that I had soft plaque in my arteries, and which is kind of, you know, the worst kind because that can cause blockage, which can lead, you know, to a heart attack. So luckily, we caught it early. And, you know, in my case, with the doctor, what's our plan of attack on this? And through medication, we can get under control. So that was really eye opening to me. Well, you mentioned that heart flows using this AI technology. And AI has been so much in the news over the last couple of weeks specifically. And it's become a political football. But people don't understand a couple of things about AI. Number one, we've had AI for years. It was just used in different forms. And we've been using it for years. But the technological and the medical breakthroughs that are possible because of artificial intelligence are just beginning to blossom. And we're seeing more and more evidence of that. So when people are fear mongering

10:20and they're trying to say, well, we need to slow down with this AI stuff before it kills all of humanity. And in this particular case, and it's one of many, Ken, that AI is actually helping improve people's lives and achieving medical breakthroughs. So I think it's it's wonderful. Technology and progress is always good. It's just how it's used. Do you agree? No question about it. You know, and with heart disease, you know, sometimes, you know, you really don't have any symptoms or awareness of what's going on. And that's why, you know, with this heart flow procedure to get ahead of the game and discover what you got in a chance to get it under control, you know, when you find it out, that's that early. Well, you you mentioned a one in three professional football players who pass die of cardiovascular disease. That's an ordinantly high. It's it's a lot more than the general public, even though heart disease is a proven lethal killer of people of all professions in all walks of life.

11:27But why do you think it's it's so, I don't know, seems so magnified with professional football players. You know, I'm not sure why, but I think, you know, with the heart flow and the game film, you know, maybe we'll find out more as we go along and what what the causes for athletes, but, you know, certainly it's especially in the NFL. It's not an easy way of life that you put your body through. No, and professional football players have typically shorter lifespans than people who, you know, I don't know, sell widgets or work in factories. And the the toll on the body has got to have something to do with the, did you ever worry about brain injuries back when you were playing because nobody really talked about CTE. And that's another kind of medical breakthrough that has happened in the last 10 to 15 years. But when was when was the time that you, you got hit

12:30real hard in the head. And you said, Oh man, I don't know if I can stand up. Can you recall any of those incidents? Uh, while there are some they help me off the field, but back in those days, if you could count fingers, you know, you went back in the game. So it was, uh, you know, when you're playing, you're not really concerned about injuries and that kind of stuff and what the future may hold, you're so wrapped up in the moment. Yeah. And it's like gambling. You can't play with scared money. I mean, you're out there to play a man's game. And the mentality at that time was just rub some dirt on it. Get back out there. And, and, and that that's what's, that's what's so nice now is, you know, uh, although I'm 77 now, uh, but I don't quite feel that old, but it's to have these techniques like heart flow that can go ahead and detect things early to get it under control so you can live a longer life. What kind of things have you involved yourself with since your playing

13:35days? How do you keep active? Because to me, keeping active is the most important thing anyone can do, uh, to maintain their health into, you know, 70s, 80s. I know people in their 90s who are still pretty darned spray. And it amazes me because I see people my age in their mid 60s and they look like they're on the edge of death because they never get up off the couch. What kind of things does it kind of Anderson do to stay mobile and to keep active? Well, chasing six grandkids around will always help the cause. So, uh, I enjoy that, you know, I, I still enjoy going to the gym and working out, uh, hopefully on a regular basis, but I think more than anything else, you know, uh, I really can stay involved. I've got a foundation to Ken Anderson Alliance, which is to empower and dulse with disabilities to thrive in the community. And, uh, and that keeps me going and keeps me purposeful in life, which I think is important as well. Well, you know, when I mentioned to you,

14:38to a friend that I was going to be interviewing you, Kenny, um, they said, well, you got to say something about the stash. It was nice while it lasted. And, uh, you know, I went in the coaching and I forget what team I was with when they showed the picture of that when I was playing in the player started referring to it as my portal stash. So I, I'm glad it's gone. There you go. But it was a classic 70s 80 stash, man. And, you know, that, that was a signature right there, uh, along with, with touchdown passes that you were throwing. Um, so I heard you, I heard you earlier today. I saw you on local 12 being interviewed by Bob Herzog. And he was asking you about this past Sunday's game, the first Bengals lost this year. And, uh, mentioned the special teams fobles. And, you, you made the comment and it just made me laugh out loud. I said, you said, special teams never

15:42bitched at me when I threw three interceptions and we lost again. So it was a great comment. It is a team game. And, uh, you think the Bengals are this version of the Bengals this year are going to be just fine, right? I, I really do. I mean, you know, even last week, there were encouraging things that they did. Uh, they'll get better as the weeks go on and guys get a little bit more used to playing with each other. I mean, we've got, you know, several new players on defense, you know, just working them in whether it's, uh, you know, Dexter Lawrence and Jonathan Allen and Maffe and they got cooked the safety. So that's a large portion of your defense that that's brand new. So, uh, no, I'm excited about the team. Uh, they got a great coaching staff. Uh, I think the, uh, the talent level is really up there this year. And, uh, we're going to be just fine. Yeah, I moved to Cincinnati in 1994. And you know, those particular days in Bengals history weren't some of the brightest chapters in the franchise. Um, so it took a while for me to really get with the program

16:48and become a Bengals fan. But boy, I tell you what, Joe Burrow has, uh, and the other things that they've done and you mentioned the defensive players they brought in this year and all of the offensive tools. I've never seen a more opportune time for the team maybe to get back to the big game, uh, than this season and I, I hope that they do. Um, uh, no, I think we, we all do. And I think it was, you know, the other thing optimistic is that the organization kind of changed the way of, where they operated a little bit. Yeah. They went out and they traded the 10th pick in the draft for Dexter Lawrence, which is one heck of a move. They spent more money and free agency. You know, we've got, you know, Jamar and T, we've got them signed up the long term contract. So, you know, I think, uh, besides what the team was doing, you know, on the field just the way that they were operating in the front office is a sign of encouragement as well. Do you get back to Patavia Illinois very often? Uh, yes, I was, uh, through there, uh, just a week ago, had lunch with

17:53my sister, uh, on the way to Rock Island in August, Danut for a weekend, uh, the catcher game. Fantastic. Tell me, uh, tell folks how they can find out more about Heartflow Ken. If you go to heartflow.com, uh, you'll find out about it. And if you want to find a doctor that, uh, has heartflow available to him, go to heartflow.com slash football. And it's, you know, especially here in Cincinnati, I mean, you can do it through, you know, uh, Christ hospital, you see health, mercy health, try health, pro scan. So a lot of ways to have it accessible to you. All right. Very nice. Uh, and thanks for the opportunity to talk. It was really a pleasure in a treat for me. Well, thanks, Gary. I really appreciate it. I enjoy listening to you on the radio. Not not so much at night, but when you're filling in during the day, I really enjoy it. Well, and remember Saturday morning for the last 29 and a half years, if you can get up that early Ken. Uh, well, usually I met a youth soccer game volleyball game basketball game, baseball game,

19:00something like that. So my Saturdays are pretty busy with the grandkids. Yeah, and I understand that and I fully support that. I'm just saying if you're ever, uh, laying around early on a Saturday morning, it's quite an unusual program. Okay. I will check it out. All right. Kenny Anderson, heartflow. And uh, was it heartflow.com? Yes. All right. Fantastic. Ken. Thank you so much. Have a good one. Yep. Bengal's ring of honor. Honoree. Should be in the pro football Hall of Fame. Now he's in the nightcap Hall of Fame. Kenny Anderson, as we begin coming up a conversation with my friend Nashville songwriter. Well, from Millford, not really, not really from Nashville. Greg Jones will join us in studio to talk about music, music industry and anything else we can come up with. Seven out of WLW. What if I told you that

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22:08life forms of all kinds of welcome to another half hour of this nightcap Tuesday night September 29th getting ready to get into October. The weather's been beautiful and have the great pleasure of having in the studio this evening a friend of mine that I've had on the show before. He is a proud graduate of Milford High School. I don't know if they're proud of him or not but he's glad he survived and he made his way to Belmont University in natural Tennessee to pursue a career in the music business and he took those classes and started meeting people started writing songs with people and today he is a not only a published but has he gets royally checks every quarter for songs that he's co-written with other very talented people and he is a friend of mine and

23:08I'm glad that I can call him a friend Greg Jones welcome into the nightcap my friend. Hey, good to see you always again my friend. All right, but got to have you got you got the the low sexy growl voice going on tonight. This is fine. This is good. The nightcap. It's the nightcap. It doesn't mean you're supposed to have one before we go on the air. You you sound like Amy Acton with a beard. Geez. A fact in fact. No, so you've been busy. You've been back down in Nashville doing some writing. You kind of come up here for a little while. You've got a girlfriend here. Victoria. Yes. But you're very obviously very fond of. Light of your life. And then you've got a house and your songwriting connections are mainly down south. And my family too. Yeah. And your family. Yeah, granddaughters. I'm a lucky man. So you told me about this.

24:11Well, you told me about the possibility of you co-writing with a guy named Steve Warner. Who is an incredible Nashville songwriter a star as a performer and as a writer. And you were going with your buddy, Ward Davis, who is an old country up in Cumber, who you've co-written with and have cuts on his albums and stuff. And you got a chance to write with Steve Warner. So it finally happened. It got delayed once, got pushed back. And then you're there with Ward at Steve Warner's house. Tell me about that experience just a thumbnail. Man, it's just probably everything you can ever think of. First of all, just a circle back on that. It was a full circle moment for me. Just growing up in Kansas City before we moved to Cincinnati. And hearing Kansas City lights, the big song that Steve had in the 80s and all the hits he had. I mean, the weekend, you know, holes in the floor. I haven't, you know,

25:12say everything is rolling to my head. I was so nervous. Yeah, they kicked the can down the road a month or so before we got to chance to finally go. But he calls me or he texted me or called me. I can't remember on the morning you were writing out. Yes. Actually, you called me, you called me the night before because it was going to happen the next day. And you were so nervous. And I said, you know what? Don't worry about being ready. You're obviously ready or they wouldn't have called you into this meeting. And you said it was good advice. Yeah, it was sound advice. You've interviewed obviously some very prestigious people of music and politics. And this is one of those things that, you know, a natural cause, you know, you got to be ready. And I wanted to be ready. There were a few people that I called, you know, as I play songs for you. You were nervous. I was. It was okay. And it worked out to be great. He was such a sweetheart, man. What a sweetheart of a guy. And anyway, we show up and Warden Iverton, so many songs together, so it made it super easy

26:14for both of us to be in his world. And it was everything you could hope for. I saw some cool stuff. And he was just really super nice guys. Wife was awesome as well. And thank God we got one done, man. We got one finished. And it was my idea. I'm going to go ahead and brag about it. It was my idea of a song and just to have him sit there. And the funny thing was we're in his driveway. I'm carrying Ward's guitar for him. And he goes, well, who's this guy Warden? I said, it's not the one that should be carrying the guitar. Sure. Because Steve, as we all know, is a gosh, you know, prodigy of so many great artists. And he grew up with Chad Ackens as his guys. So while you're there, while you're there to meeting, you get a he gets a call from Garth Brooks. So it's well in reverse. Oh, we're sitting there and we're getting ready to write the song, start the song and sticking it all in. And you know, look at the RCA dog over here, you know, staring at us. It was a gift

27:16Jimmy Beowen to to Steve and all that. And then he decides that he's I just see him on his phone. I didn't know if he was typing in some lyrics or what he was doing. But next day, I know we're on speaker phone. I hear his voice. And it's GB. It's it's Garth. Right. And he's like, hey, you know, like they're, you know, you guys are friends, you know, they get long neck bottle. Like go my hand, you know, they hit. So he's on the phone with Garth. Not the things weren't nervous. Now you got Garth Brooks on the phone. And Garth's on this world tour or something, you know, somewhere in his voice is really deeper than I expected it to be. And he's like, yeah, I got word. They said, over here, man, his finger. Yeah, we're here, right? He goes, we saw that post you did the other day. Well, Garth did this post started the week off in him in a way that he did this post. Garth Brooks saw Ward's post and reposted it and into the common eye. And it was unrelated to this. He didn't know that we even knew or had this upon the set up. So he was saying

28:19to Garth, he says, hey, I saw that post. It was pretty cool. He's like, well, he's sitting here right now. And we literally hear him on speaker go, you wait, you know, Ward Davis, he's like, well, he's here right now. We're right in the side. I just want to call. Ward looks at me like a little kid. Yeah. And it was a moment. So a legendary God is on the phone. His name is Garth Brooks and you're sitting there. Yeah. If you didn't feel like fish out of water enough at that point, pressure was on. Now, Ward Davis is a guy you've co-written with. One of the cool things that you told me that I looked for when I finally got to view the television series Landman was you guys had a song that you co-wrote that was on Landman with Billy Bob Thornton, right? How cool was that? What's the title of this song? Yes. We did this song called Another Bad Apple. And man, thanks to Sheridan. He's a fan award in Cody

29:25James and that's how the rumor had it. He was already a fan first and Ward's had stuff in the Yellowstone. And so it landed on the song. At the song landed on the second episode. Another The Bad Apple. The song about a misfit family, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I've heard it. It's great. It's great. What a cool thing. Independent artists like Ward, like Cody Janks, are pretty much the pioneers of country. There's a whole explained to me the two different factions in country music right now. The independent faction and then the big label faction that a lot of people call it. What do you call it? The songs are called what? The Fireball Countryers. Fireball country. I think Ward kind of gave over that. I think it's pretty funny. He calls it Fireball songs. You know, like, you know, some of the newer stuff, some of the more pop stuff that you hear that's out. But some of that I love, honestly, to be truthful. But there's an upstream approach where the big labels they called upstream, where you know,

30:31you make a big splash like a loot comb. And who keeps it true to the roots. And they cross over next to you know, Cody Janks is doing a show with him at Ohio State at the shoot. Right. Right. And now Janks is on tour with five finger death punch. Wow. Yeah. That was the summer. They made it stop in River Bend. And you know, and just to have songs in the set list, man, I'm so blessed. And yeah, there is still an upstream approach to the two to the majors. The majors are very, they're aware of what's going on. You performed around town when you first were starting all the time. You played all over Cincinnati and all over the region. Right. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. But you never really aspired necessarily to be a performer. You did that. But you've always had a real a real pension and a real want to be a songwriter. And what's it like when you hear one of your songs that you've had a hand in writing on the radio or online? How do you describe that feeling?

31:36Great. You know, it just unbelievable. It's everything you dreamt about. It's like, you know, watching that thing you do. You want to jump out of the car and run down the street and shake your fist. And I was looking off on another local station here that is very supportive of of local country. I was actually riding around with Victoria a couple of weeks ago. We heard Sam kind of crazy as me by Cody James. And it was, she's like, you okay over there? I'm like, yeah, it was such a dream come true. But you hear my song played over the airways here in Cincinnati where I grew up. You know, even even established artists with recording contracts have that same kind of Eureka moment when they hear there's a famous story about Jim Morrison and the doors. They're all driving on the 101 in California. And they got the radio on. And the announcer on the radio station says, and the new number one song in America. Here it is. The doors and light my fire. And Jim Morrison pulls the car over and they all get out of the car.

32:39And they're just all hugging each other and celebrating because they have the number one song in the nation. Even these guys who had had a level of success that's very hard to work in coming right now. But everybody I think kind of feels that way when they hear one of their songs. On the radio for the first time. If you're a local songwriter, keep riding, keep dreaming, keep doing it, man, be you. Get with these artists early. I've always got one of these artists when they're very young. And they let me get in their lives and I circle my wagons around them and support them. You got some local people here that are very, very, very talented. West ship Dallas more. These guys are Terry Douglas. You guys got to look at it. I've talked to them recently. We're going to write some stuff together. They're playing local clubs. You know, you got the Southgate House. You got so many local venues here. There have always been generous local music whether it's rock and roll. You know, whether you're the menus or whatever, you know, you got

33:41a local band here. It's always been rock and roll here and Cincinnati. I love it. I love being up here. I've reached the gap 300 miles away from here as you have. You know, you're removing here and I was moving there and back and forth. But what makes country kind of your Bailey Witt? What makes it the song special to you? The songwriters to me. It was Garth Brooks. Let's face it. We talked about this in C Warner's driveway. I just said it. I said, we're only here because of Garth Brooks. And it's just the truth for my generation of songwriters, the Pat Alijer songwriters, one of my favorite Pat Alijer Tony Arata, Kim Williams, all-garth songwriters, Victoria Schell, you know, the big songwriters, you know, but the whiny shafers and the people that wrote all the hits, you know, you know, Bob Regan, another one. I want to talk about Operation Song if you got a second. Operation Song's a big thing, World Avis is involved in, that we support as well. And they write with veterans, that they were PTSD and they've written over 2100 songs. I think I looked at today. Yeah,

34:43an Operation Song. And it's a big relief for these these vets and these first 500 people that come home and they want to, they get it out with music. I don't know how else to put it. They got a story. They got a story to tell and it's another way to tell their story. So you got big artists cutting their songs and I think that's a big thing we need to talk about too because it's really about the song. It all starts with the song. So you've got a, the lineage doesn't stop with you. You've got a young son named Cass Jones who is starting to make a splash. Tell me about Cass. Born here in Cincinnati. Born here in Cincinnati. So the other two are born in Nashville. He's my boys doing very well. He's an artist. He writes with West Ship. They have a song called The Wagon. And it's, it's really good song. It's a duet. They did it. It, it, it lanes on sobriety, which is his journey right now. West's sobriety. Maybe you should follow in the, follow in the footsteps of my son.

35:46I think you made me something. No, I say laughingly because you know, he would say the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. So we're very proud of him. He's doing very, very well. He's got, he's got, we've cut several songs together, but his song right now is The Wagon. It's, you could follow him. What is the ultimate, what is it? Ultimate goal for a young artist like that today. It used to be getting signed by a label and having all the support that a, a, a bonafide record label can give you with the way technology has changed and touring is really the big money maker. When I mentioned that technology was a leader of that. I mean, when, when you had, what he had label, you had vital and then a track and then you went to get set and you went to CD and then you went, now you want to tour a digital format. So everything was led by RCA and all the, all the, every time they wanted to change like Apple changing or whatever. This is my view. Like I better make it through high school, but this is my view. They keep changing and changing and changing and now it's digital format. So there's a 360 form of income that you need to have. It needs to be

36:52live music. It needs to be merchandise for sure. Tandables. And I still say put out vinyl, put out something tangible that you can autograph and play because it still sounds good. Growing up, there was nothing better than getting a new album that you were hearing on the radio and you wanted to get this album. You know, and there was the liner. Yeah. Oh, God. And the photos, the design cover, everything about having that tangible source isn't it funny that the pen is on the swung back. And yeah, people will win vinyl again. Old music is outsold new music. For me, if I'm wrong for the first time in history and Tandables are up like 30% or so. I know I sold merch for World Davis for years in Cody James too. I was there with them. But still, but the big money maker for an artist right now is still touring in the merch, isn't it? Merch, Merch, Merch, Merch, baby. The only reason Dale Ahoi was still fighting was

37:54to the merch. Trust me. Being in your ears box for nothing. Oh, man. Well, so bigger and brighter things are ahead for you. I sure hope so. Well, I mean, you're right and with Steve Horner, you're talking to Garth Brooks on the phone. I mean, that was crazy. That was crazy. I love being with you, man. You're doing great. I don't know. Doing fine. Still surviving. That's my whole thing. There's some stuff too. Don't love it for you. Yeah. A little bit. And you mentioned the local people who are really great and a name that you didn't mention, but I will that maybe not a lot of people have heard him over the years from overdue from the Danny Frazier band. Oh, oh, Scotty Brasher. I'm talking about Chris Goen's. My friend Chris Gatari, one of the most amazing acoustical guitar players I've ever heard live. And we're actually going to be playing at crow's nest on October 10th from one to three in the afternoon. I love singing harmony with

38:54you guys. That was a lot of fun. Great harmony singer. You really are. That's right. Fantastic. I really enjoy it. And glad to proud to call you my friend Greg Jones is here on the night cap. A little break for for those of you who'd like to talk something besides politics. And his I and I love talking things besides politics. But if they weren't so impactful on our lives, I wouldn't have to talk about them at all. We will be talking to Christy Edwards, who has written a new book that is basically an homage to the late Charlie Kirk. And also as we continue, John T Palmer will be with us in the second half of next hour talking about George Washington's one man army. It's the night cap on this Tuesday evening. We continue in moments after the break here on 700 WLW. What if I told you that most of history's underwear wasn't remotely close to the underwear you're wearing right now? Hi, I'm Greg Jenner, host of your Dead To Me podcast,

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42:03next guest on first time we've ever spoken? She is a conservative entrepreneur, lifelong Christian, been in the in the movement of getting the word out about the word and God. From her very earliest, she was handing out flyers for campaigns when she was in high school. She built writer, a dating app for conservatives, spent years backing veterans animal welfare causes and her friendship with Charlie Kirk grew very close over time. Part mentor, ship, part older sister, keeping an eye on him. She runs, carry the torch now, carrying his work forward. And when her son needed a college reference letter, Charlie wrote it himself the same day and sent it straight to the school without any delay. So again, your close relationship with Charlie Kirk and your continued work and carry the torch. It's great to have you on Christy Edwards. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Happy to be here. Yep. You have a new book, Charlie Kirk,

43:11in his own words. And I guess I haven't seen it yet, Christy, but I guess it's a compilation of a conglameration of quotes from Charlie and speeches and the like. Is that the basic drift? It's an archive of all of his best tweets per category from 2011, which was his first year on Twitter all the way until the day he died. And I spent nine months carefully going through the archive of his thousands and thousands and thousands of tweets. As you know, we all know he tweeted every single day. And so I was missing his words after he died. And I wanted to make sure there was a beautiful pretty much history book in my living room. I actually had no intention of having it published. I just was putting it together for my group of friends in my network. And it turned into quite a project. And it did end up getting published.

44:16And it's just a coffee table book of pretty much a reference of per category, what Charlie had to say about pretty much every topic. How did you meet Charlie Kirk? I met him in 2015 with Don Trump Jr. and Charlie at that time had just turned 22. And he wanted me, I was working private fund raising for the Trump campaign. And he said, hey, do you want to meet this kid? And I was like, no, not really. And he said, just hot-tempered, few minutes. I already had a kid. I was raising a kid myself who was just a few years younger than Charlie. And he said, just hot-tembed. So I spoke to Charlie less than two minutes and realized he was no kid. And that he was very special and highly intelligent and had a lot to offer me. And I, in turn, offered him things as well. And so we bonded immediately, literally immediately. And we kind of hit the floor running to get Donald

45:20elected. That was our goal. He had such an impact on young people, on college campuses and in high schools. Do you feel like the movement is still as vibrant and as alive as ever before, immediately after his death, his assassination, his murder? Obviously, the want for more turning point USA clubs and memberships just dramatically rose. Is it still on the upswing, Christine? Sure, yes. And absolutely. And I still support turning point. And I think that's one of the biggest things Charlie taught me was that the power of youth, and I think Charlie empowered all youth, whether they were a voting age or not. The three elections during Charlie's lifetime, not just his lifetime, but I mean, yeah, I guess his lifetime, now that I think about it in his voting age.

46:23I guess that before, he taught that they basically were the swing election. In 2016 when Trump won, Charlie was in Michigan and we only won that state barely. If you remember, it was long over to the Republican side and we only won that state by 10,000 votes. Well, that night when Trump won, he was not expected to win. He's only won by 10,000 votes. Those 10,000 votes, it is highly thought that those were 10,000 votes that Charlie curcandered president. And that would have been the youth vote. And so I think one thing that Charlie taught the country and many others is the power of getting the youth out to vote and how important their vote is. And so I think that's one thing Charlie got taught. The world is how important it is that those youth get involved. Their vote matters. It significantly matters that who is brought into power. And so I think that even though

47:26he's gone, I think that message still reigns very clearly. Well, Jesus said, Jesus said, suffer the children unto me for a reason, Christy. The youth have always been important in keeping movements going because I mean, it's a natural cycle of life. We die on and we pass and we hopefully pass those values and those truths to the next generation. Absolutely. For the children, the children shall lead them and Charlie's legacy is never going to die. No, it will never die. Charlie's children will continue on with his name. The movement is never going to die. There's like we keep saying we need a hundred Charlie curves, which is what carried the torches about. And turning point, you know, we are looking for any youth that wants to continue doing exactly what Charlie was doing, which is basically getting the word out about the truth

48:28of what the conservative movement is about, what Christianity is about, and to porch Charlie for many years that rested on just his shoulders. And that was a lot that was a behemoth request. I watched him do it for years. He needed help. Thank goodness turning point grew at the rate that it grew. But right now we need it. We need a hundred Charlie curves in every state. We need a lot of kids out there doing exactly what he was doing in their respective states and their universities and their churches at every voting booth. No, no, no, no, we want everyone to think that they're a Charlie Kirk. No doubt. Well, Christy Edwards is our guest here for the next few minutes. And her book, Charlie Kirk, in his own words, is out now. She leads an organization called Carry the Torch, which is again, lighting the way for all those potential Charlie Kirk's out there.

49:30Yet you were you were handing out flyers in high school. How did that all begin? I interested about your backstory a little bit, Christy. Tell me about that. Oh, I'm a lot of people out there probably can relate. I was raised in a very Christian conservative home. And I wore a rush limbaugh, get a head shirt to high school. And I went to a public high school. And so I got a lot of grief for it. But the people in my high school in California, in California, I went to Temecula Valley High School. They gave me grief, but they also respected who I was. And I just jumped on the campaigns right away because I just wanted to get involved. I guess it was just in my blood. It's just something I wanted to do from a very young age. I was in the young Republicans Club in high school. I did speech and debate. I went to point woman as during college right from high school. And got involved in every part of politics I possibly could. It just never left my blood, majored in political science, minored in economics.

50:33So I think sometimes that drive is probably just inside of you. I mean, I listened to Rush Limbaugh every single minute of my day because my parents always had it on either at home or in the car. And so that was one thing, Charlie and I connected on right away. Even though he and I were different generations is he, he too loved Rush. I mean, he and I could literally quote Rush together. And we would laugh. And that's one area where he and I became Pindred spirits right away even though he was much, much younger than me. And so, you know, and then later I ended up going to an event where Charlie introduced me to Rush. And I mean, those were my salaries. I didn't crap about Hollywood. I mean, that was my that was my technical. You know, was meeting Rush. Oh, I bet. Yeah, it really was. It was very cool. I wish I would have had the opportunity. I was a radio DJ, a music disc jockey in 1987. The first time I'd been in the business for about

51:33seven years, the first time I heard Rush Limbaugh, I said, oh, that's what I want to do. I don't I don't want to babysit music. I want to babysit topics. And, you know, uh, spread that kind of a message. I want to be that kind of a commanding presence on the radio. Haven't quite achieved Rush status, but believe me, he was my inspiration too. And, uh, well, you've got the voice. You actually have that voice and you I can believe it. I can I'm sure you do have that. I can hear it in your voice and your, uh, your tenor. So you're doing a good job. Well, and I can only be me. And, uh, I'm trying my best to be me. Uh, it's so, so we'll leave it at that. But I wanted to also talk about, um, we talked about how important the youth are to building and maintaining a movement. Uh, the same is true for bad movements. Uh, you know, what we've seen in the Democrat party with

52:38the rise of Democrat Socialist of America and the like. And and then not having any concept or context for history and what socialism really means. And there is this, this great, uh, this great movement that's coming there from the other side. And, you know, I guess there's a Yin Yang thing happening, you know, where, uh, as the as the Christian youth movement continues to flourish, uh, under the memory, in the memory of Charlie Kirk and gross, this rise in this want for communism and this socialist system is also rising on the other side. Uh, how big, how big a danger do you think that is to our country? You know, I think that this, this is a tale is all this time. We're always going to have, you know, um, and Tifa, we're always going to have, um, these,

53:40these gangster like situations, we're always going to have, I mean, I've been watching it for, I'm, I'm 49 and I've been watching this happen since high school. We're, we're going to have socialism come back. We're going to have communism come back. The thing is, we've already defeated it. It's been defeated in every country. It's never been successful, not once, not, not since the beginning of time. It's never named one country. It works and it doesn't. It's failed every time. If they want to keep touting it and all of these young people who think it's so great, it's like, well, no problem. Then go, go leave the United States where we've never once sounded our country on that system, on that belief and go live in a country where they are touting that. You know, it's like, let them, my, my opinion on that is let them find rise up. Try to vote for that. Try to, try to believe in that. Try to live on that. And it's going to crumble as fast as it starts. The light has already beat out the dark. It, we're going to win every time, even if it doesn't look like we're winning.

54:41I mean, we've had catastrophic things like Charlie being killed, 9-11, you know, Kennedy being taken out. We've had horrible things where it looks like evil is winning. We've had horrific things but every time what happens, the United States, we, we rise up. We rebuild. We keep winning. God is always going to win because He already defeated the darkness. The devil is never going to win ever. Amen. So in my mind, I, I, I, I conduct myself that way. I'm not afraid of them. I don't ever act afraid of them because I'm not. I already know who wins. Even if it means they killed my friend Charlie, I had to watch him die. But in that moment, when he was killed, which is basically people fear death, right? But Christians don't. No. No. And, and the thing is, if you watch Charlie, be taken out the way he was taken out, which was horrifically such a, a magnificent intelligence, probably one of the most, probably the most intelligent man I've known,

55:43to watch him be taken out in such a quick way. There was a beautiful quiet peace about it when the minute you saw him die, which is pretty much on stage. He blood out on stage. You, there was a peace about it because you knew immediately that God was there and that Charlie ascended right into the kingdom. And so it's like if these people want to start up their crap, that's already failed. It's like, okay, how fun with that, guys. Yeah. It's like, enjoy that. It's never going to work. It's why Trump got elected three times. You took his presidency away in 2020. That's fine. Look how well that worked out. And it's, you know, so it's like, I guess, how fun with it. You know, do what you need to do. It just doesn't bother me. How do you, how do you respond with all these conspiracy theories revolving around Charlie's family? Yeah. Yeah. You know, I personally was friends with one of those and one of those people and it's just,

56:48I mean, frankly, sickening. I think that what bothers me the most is the audience. Those people who, first of all, they are not conservatives. They are not part of our group. They are not on our team. And you need to be very clear about that. I think it's disappointing that people who are giving any credence to it. I think you guys need to educate yourselves. I think you need to read books. I think you need to go back in history. But the most important thing is if there was any truth to any of this, they wouldn't be making money off of it. You do not profit off of truth. And you do not profit off of somebody's assassination. That is not something that you do. And here's the difference where I already know what everybody's going to throw back. Oh, you just wrote a book. Uh-huh. That's why 100% of these proceeds are being donated to children because I would never profit off of this. And turning point USA is a non-profit that was Charlie's company. And it all of it gets thrown right back into the kids. And so anything that they have profited off of his

57:52assassination came from donor. And all of that gets thrown right back into where it's been going for many, many, many years on a company that Charlie built. So those are two very different things. The people that are peddling these conspiracies, they are not nonprofits. They are for profit. Oh, yeah. And they are pocketing millions of dollars off of Charlie's assassination. And so I think you have to ask yourself motive. And I'll just leave that at that. Oh, very good. Very well said. And I like that. Um, and I know I'm going to enjoy the book. It's Charlie Kirk in his own words. It's a conflation of his tweets and quotes. It's a tribute. It was a love gift and a tribute to those who were hurting and grieving and missing him as much as I was. It's never before seen images from my own personal collection. It's beautiful images that people sent to me,

58:54also that are available online. It's testimonials from people all over the world from surgeon, secret service agents of what Charlie meant to them and how his death affected him. Charlie's books that he made me read Charlie's favorite scriptures, his favorite foods. And then category by category by category like, for example, when Massachusetts was passing the law about third term abortions, I immediately was like, what did Charlie say about that? I know he said a whole bunch of stuff. I immediately went to the abortion chapter. And I was like, oh, there they are. There's all his tweets. And it was all his tweets by category of what he had to say about third term, extra abortions. And it's like the Iran war. I immediately went to the war chapter. Everything he had to say about war and war with Iran. So it's kind of like a reference book of basically what Charlie had to say about every single topic. Well, it's great. And I think it's beautifully in a coffee table book. So you can kind of just leave it out as a piece of decoration. It's really pretty. Yeah, I saw the cover of it in the pitch.

59:55Christie Edwards, thank you so much. Charlie Kurt. God bless you. God bless you and have a fantastic day out there in Arizona. Christie Edwards, our guest on the night camp and John Palmer, who has written about George Washington's one man army. And it wasn't George coming up on the night camp. Chapter allows my funeral home to stand out. Not only is it a phenomenal value ad for you. You might drink it every day, but did you know that the history of tea is steeped in skull duggery, colonialism and industrial espionage. I'm Greg Jenner, host of Your Dead To Me, where the comedy show that takes history seriously. And in our latest episode, we spill the tea on tea. Join us to unpack the ancient Chinese origins of the drink and find out how it became the national drink of modern Britain. Listen on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

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1:02:14Stifle, where success meets success. Learn more at choosestifle.com. Stifle Nicholas and company incorporated member NYSE and SIPC for JD Power 2026 award information visit JD Power.com slash awards compensation provided for using not obtaining the award. As we continue this night cap episode two of the new season, our next guest has written this historical tone about George Washington's one man army. That's actually the title of the book. George Washington's one man army, the life legend and battles of Peter Francisco. As I was telling him, or I'll tell you again, his name is John Palmer. Welcome John Palmer to the show first. You're a pleasure to be here. Thank you. As I was going to tell you, I studied American history. And I thought that I knew a little bit about it because they actually taught it, and they taught us real American history, not rewritten American history or not

1:03:19history to make me feel bad about the country I live in, like many places are doing now. But I loved history. I loved American history. And just not just the Revolutionary War, but the Civil War and everything our country has struggled to come through from its very beginnings. And I'd never heard about this character, Peter Francisco. But you say he was as well known as any kind of war hero that we had in the 20th century, like the Audie Murphy's and such, correct? That's absolutely true. He was known to the American populace as well as Audie Murphy in World War II or Alvin York in World War I. We just for some reason over time, I forgot about it. Huh. And this was a large man too. If you think about being six foot six in the 1770s, there weren't too many people that were of that height and stature. Plus he was a big man, right?

1:04:22He was a big boy to start with. He grew to six foot six and 260 pounds by the age of 14. So he was arguably the largest man in North America as a young teenager. We had somebody on my high school or my junior high basketball, in ninth grade, who was six foot six. And you know, couldn't walk in Chiu Gung with the same time, but he was taller than everybody else. So he was the center. So, but, but you're thinking about it. What was I, you know what the average height was of an adult male at the time of the revolution or more? Yes, for Peter Francisco, he was six foot six and 260 pounds means that he was a foot taller and over 100 pounds heavier than the average male in the 1770s. That's amazing. That's amazing. How did he get here? Because he, he wasn't born on this continent, correct? No, that's really the key to the story. So, Peter Francisco was born to European mobility, to a family that was in disfavor with the Portuguese

1:05:26court. And he was abducted by mariners from the Azores at the age of four. And this is way back in 1765. And they sailed him across the Atlantic. And one month later, he was deposited on the Doxan City Point, Virginia. That's 25 miles southeast of Richmond. And it's not called Holt Point. But now think about this. Speaking no English, all this four-year-old boy could say was his name. Pedro Francisco. And he was indentured to Patrick Henry's uncle as a blacksmith when they changed his name to Peter. And he grew, as we said, the six foot six, 260 pounds by the age of 14. Now, after hearing firsthand, Patrick Henry's give me liberty or give me death speech. He joined a continental army. And as we said, became one of the most renowned and listed soldiers of the Revolution. Young Francisco, he participated in some of the fiercest fighting. He witnessed the greatest events. And he met in a stounding number of luminaries from early America, headlined by none other than General George Washington, Nathaniel Green, and the Martí de Lafayette with whom he formed a five-decade friendship. And all told, he fought at least 10 engagements.

1:06:30He received six gruesome wounds in these engagements as he dispatched over 20 enemy soldiers. Mostly by the Bayonet and in one battle, a six-foot broadsword that was commissioned for him by George Washington. So his feet of strength and courage, it's unbelievable, we're legendary. As he's repeated to have carried a half-ton cannon from the battlefield at Camden. And then after the war, that story's almost as good as the little war. But he became a planetary engaged in self-education, learned to read because he wasn't taught as an indentured servant. That allowed him to marry into Virginia society three times. And he was serving as the Virginia legislature sergeant at arms when he passed away in 1831. So as you say, this is really a compelling account of one of America's first finest and unfortunately forgotten heroes. Well, it's, how did you uncover this story, John? How did you get to see, you know, I'm going to write about this giant of a man whose people called George Washington's One Man Army, this American Hercules. How did you come to this story

1:07:32and want to research it and write the book? Like you, I thought I knew an awful lot about American history. My mother was a voracious reader of history. My father was appreciated as well. And I was working around the house with the history channel going to the background and the narrator recounted the Battle of Camden that I mentioned before, where a soldier turns out to be Francisco was recruited to have shoulder and carried a half ton cannon from the battlefield. And that got my attention because that's roughly the modern world record for a barbell deadlift. And that's just getting it with a barbell up to your thighs. So to play such a weight on one shoulder was nearly unbelievable. So at that point, I conducted some passive research on Peter Francisco. And I settled on him later in life when I was seeking subjects for my second book as an author. And I remember back to the famous writer David McCullough and he advised aspiring authors to write about something that's new, something that hadn't been written about before. So in my research, I found some small biographies, but none that took his personal heroics and also examined

1:08:33into tale the life of an indentured orphan, an 18th century blacksmith, a common revolutionary soldier, and the generals in charge of the battles, the strategies, the wins, the losses, and the roads to upcoming engagements. So one man army is not only a book about Francisco, but also the battles, the leaders. And in some cases, his enlisted comrades of the Virginia giant in the field. How did George Washington regard him? Well, I will tell you that we call the book George Washington's one man army because that is from a quote that is attributed to the father of our country. And the quote is as follows. Without him, we would have lost two crucial battles, perhaps the war and with it our freedom. He was truly a one man army. Well, the claims about carrying a half-ton cannon on your shoulder, you can understand my incredulousness adhering this and anybody else because you said it's like right around the modern

1:09:37day record for a deadlift of a dumbbell, but then you know, it's a thousand pounds. He's 260 pounds. How does he carry four times his weight on his shoulder? Well, let me give you a general on the book and how we approach things like this because there are a handful of events that are attributed to the Virginia giant that have been questioned by some historians. And among these are whether or not he was the American who captured the enemy colors at Stony Point. Of course, the size of the cannon he carried from the battlefield at Cannon and the origin of the broadsword he used at Guildford Courthouse. Now, the chapter text in the book is devoted to the legend of Peter Francisco in all its glory, but through chapter post scripts, I bring to the service the tangible records that are available and the inquiries made by some historians. And in some cases, I call balls and strikes and what I think happened. And in other cases, the truth is left to the mystery of 18th century history. You mentioned Stony Point. And that was that charge was led by

1:10:42Matt Anthony Wayne, who of course has an amazing history here in this area of the country too. But he does indeed. Matt Anthony Wayne was quite a character himself. And do you go much into his leadership in that particular event? I do. Everyone that was in close proximity with Peter Francisco. I go into their origins, their lives, their training, and then how they prosecuted various battles. So when you're talking about this book, you're talking about learning a great deal about George Washington, obviously, but also Patrick Henry, Nathaniel Green, Marquita Lafayette, Baron von Stoyben, General Daniel Morgan, the hero of Calpins, Matt Anthony Wayne, as you mentioned, Light Horse Harry Lee, Colonel William Washington, who was one of the best cavalry commanders of the revolution. He was George Washington's second cousin. And you also get insight into Justice George Marshall and Henry Clay, both of whom spent time with Peter Francisco

1:11:47as a veteran after the war. That's how famous that he was. You said he passed and he was a sergeant of arms in the Virginia legislature. What was that? That's correct. He was a sergeant at Arms in the Virginia legislature when he passed away. And that was after he married his third wife, who was a woman named Beverly Grimes West in 1823. And she preferred to live in Richmond. He had thus far with his first two wives, been a Virginia planter, living in Central Virginia, around Buckingham County. But at his death, he was living in Richmond. And that's how he wound up coming in close proximity to Justice Chief Justice Marshall, who also had a home in Richmond. And Henry Clay, who although he was representing Kentucky, he was from Hanover County, Virginia, which is nearby. So that's really the connection there between Peter Francisco and two of the greatest statesmen and leader and

1:12:51jurisprudence with Justice Marshall. You since he was he was kidnapped at the age of four from the Azoors, he is truly the American, the original immigrant story, even though it's an accidental immigration. He didn't intend to wind up in the Dox in Virginia when he was kidnapped out of his home. But that's a story of so many people who came to this country, what would become this country and really find their lives. And we're exceptional. I mean, there were so many. We talk about immigration today, and it's a much different animal than immigration, because we were all immigrants, except for the natives who lived here. Yeah, so Peter Francisco, coming here at at the age of four, speaking to English and then growing to a world renowned, literally world

1:13:51renowned soldier, and then being a Virginia planter somewhere is really a testament to one, the opportunity that has existed in America since our founding and to rugged into the visualism on his part. There's no one really that you can find that it's faced steeper odds. As a matter of fact, on this transatlantic voyage, he almost didn't make it. The ship hit a bad storm. The sailors on board the ship blamed him for the storm because you know they are always looking for bad omens when things go wrong. And a young child being on the ship gave them cause to put him to hard labor as punishment for bringing a bad omens on the ship. And only because of one sailor that decided to protect him, and he surmised that it was a spaniard, that he survived, the trip across the Atlantic. He stood an excellent chance of being pitched over the side. And so that is how he was protected during the transit across the Atlantic. And then as soon as

1:14:51they could get him off the ship, they did so in the new world. And they put him ashore on the docs at a city point, Virginia, where the war for watchmen found him, took him into custody. The local ladies took care of him for a while. He was put in the parish for house. And then ultimately, a judge Anthony Winston, the uncle Patrick Henry, took him on as a blacksmith, and indentured him as a servant until the age of 21. Of course, he released him at the age of 16, so he could fight for the revolution. Did he die as a successful man? Was he wealthy? He did well in the post war, but I would tell you that probably, and we cover this in the book. One of his post war mistakes is that in his third marriage, he married a woman, he made very well, three times. But the third woman was a widow of an aristocrat. And what he did not know when he married her is that she took on prodigious debts. She went all the way through her fortune,

1:15:53her debt husbands fortune, and and accumulated a bunch of debt at the point in which they got married. And he did not realize that. And he assigned himself to any debts that she had, not knowing that she had such a prodigious level of claims against her. So he spent the last portion of his life from 1823 until he passed away, laboring under the debts of his third wife. So yes, he was successful, but he had to apply that success to an unfortunate debt situation with his third wife. Well, you know, it's, it's amazing, John, that we, we talk about these incredible singular kind of figures in history. You mentioned Alvin York and World War I or Audit Murphy and World War II, and Peter Francisco being in the same breath with those guys. And the horrors of war, especially close hand-to-hand combat and the blood and everything else. You hear a lot about

1:16:59PTSD today. Do you think that Peter Francisco wound up being affected at all by these battles where where he was, you know, seriously wounded? He had six pretty serious wounds throughout his, his history, his military history. Yeah, I would expect that he had to be impacted, but he did not reveal it in any of the biographical material. The first two biographies were written by people who knew him, were part of family. The only thing that he related that could be ascribed to something like trauma or PTSD was about that transit across the Atlantic, where when he was asked for specifics about his abuse on that transatlantic voyage, his only comment, according to history, some things are best left forgot. There you go. There you go. Did you mention Anthony Wayne? I'd love to tell you about the battle where he was under the direct command of Anthony Wayne.

1:18:01Yeah, to pass it on. To what? To what? To what? To what? Yes, so this is Tony Point, New York, and this is July 16, 1779. Now Peter Francisco has just turned 19, but consider this. This is already his fifth battle. He's under command of, as you said, mad Anthony Wayne and he served them what would be a textbook command of assault on the heights of Stony Point. Now Stony Point was and is for that matter a peninsula that jutts out into the Hudson River and it's located between Manhattan and West Point and it was thought to be by the British impregnable. They called it Little Gibraltar. The peninsula spans 90 acres, rises out of the water sharply to 150 feet with a top plateau of just a couple acres. There were upper and lower fortifications back then. So kind of think about a castle inside a castle as you're going up the hill and the British chop down all the trees on the hill and laid them around the lower rocks to create a third barrier. So the only friendly access to this garrison was from a west to east causeway over Marshallland. Now that Anthony Wayne and George Washington had a strategy

1:19:07that was at midnight to demonstrate with Ken and the musket fire along the causeway to distract the British and occupy their attention. Simultaneously two teams would silently skirt the northern and southern shorelines of the point and they would cut through the logs then they would race up the hill to the lower works and then they would charge the upper works. Now get this. This was with no gunpowder in their muskets to maintain silence. So the combat was designed in advance to be hand-to-hand. Peter Francisco for his part was part of the northern column and each of the two columns had a special 20 man acts wielding detachment called four more in hope. And the function of these men, Arnold Axes, was to cut through those trees that were below the lower works and clear the way in advance of their fellow soldiers. Now these teams were called four more because the duty was thought to be practically suicidal. The noise would draw attention and in fact 17 of Francisco's 20 comrades on this team would be killed or wounded as they took

1:20:0960 artillery rounds and a host of muskets fired. Now Peter for his part, he was not injured at this point. So he swapped out his acts for a musket and a bayonet and he charged the hill with the soldiers. They made it to the lower works then they charged the upper works and he was second over the wall in the northern column to the upper works and then 20 minutes of hand-to-hand combat ensued in total darkness. And Francisco killed three enemy soldiers and the British pleaded for quarter after only 20 minutes. Now he was credited in one account with seizing the enemy colors even though he suffered a nine inch gash to his abdomen by an enemy bayonet. Oh geez. And this battle, yeah this battle was the first one to serve as an example and make him a renowned soldier not only locally but all up and down the 13 colonies now states. Amazing. And people became aware of the heroism of Peter Francis. John Palmer is the author John T. Palmer, the book George Washington's one man army, the legend, the life of Peter Francisco. It's out now and

1:21:15thank you so much for your time John. Interesting, fascinating. Thank you so much for having me. You got it. Thanks. The nightcap continues. Peter Bach coming up after the What if I told you that most of history's underwear wasn't remotely close to the underwear you're wearing right now. Hi, I'm Greg Jenner, host of The Your Dead To Me podcast and we're back with a brand new season. And if you're a fan of fashion trends of the past, you'll love our newest episode on the history of underwear. We explore how our underwear has changed throughout history and whether TV depictions of agency era ladies in their lacy underwear are truly accurate. Listen on Babysheed.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

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1:23:24information visit JD Power.com slash awards compensation provided for using not obtaining the award. Tuesday 11th. Into our number three of the nightcap. You know, seven better WLWD Gary Chatt Walker. And our next guest is a first timer for me. I saw the subject matter. It's all the topic and I said, yeah, this is something that I'm interested in and want to know more about from this perspective, from Paul Box perspective. Paul is a former Green Beret who was recruited into an intelligence platform working on the UAP, an identified aerial phenomenon issue. And he's warning in his new book just out that the disclosure agenda that the greatest danger that we face on this planet may not be an alien invasion, but a spiritual one. And we'll see how he he gets to connect those dots as we continue our conversation tonight. Paul Box, first and foremost,

1:24:25welcome to the nightcap. How are you? Good. Thank you for having me. How long were you in the army? Paul. So I did 14 years and then I was medically retired after five rotations. I did three try rack one to Afghanistan and and after Syria, my body was kind of like we're done. So they not exactly the path I would have chosen, but God worked it all out and it was it's been quite an adventure beyond what I could have even imagined. So not a bad thing necessarily. What did you learn about your Christian faith as you were serving in our country and fighting in these these war torn places? I really had two faiths, especially after my fourth rotation, which was Afghanistan, that though I had claimed Christ, if you had put me up on trial, there would not have been enough

1:25:25evidence to convict me. I was very much a very much that comfortable Christian. I professed it. I could not defend my faith. I really didn't know the Bible well. I went to church, but so in that process of seeing and being over there when people would ask about my faith, not really, I believe in Jesus, not being able to give a good defense. And then after Afghanistan, I was actually in the process of getting out of the army and we had just lost my REOD tech chat, Regelyn, after a right before we came home. My wife had lost two pregnancies, one right before Afghanistan in the middle. So I was pretty burned out just due to the operational tempo. I'd been deployed from 07 to 2012, lost a bunch of friends. In that process, I was like, I basically God was very much like you cannot get out of the army right now. I was quite literally

1:26:28bawling my eyes out, driving into work to this special forces group saying I have no clue what you want me to do. I feel like I'm called the ministry, but I don't even know what that looks like. How do you walk this? And he basically told me the military is your ministry, but you've lived for yourself. And he started to show me all the ways in which I had failed him, all the people that were no longer with me alive that I never shared Christ with. And so it really woke me up to the reality of what does it really mean to follow Christ? Not just in word, but in deed and action, how do you pursue a relationship with Christ? And then coming from a warfare background, really seeing the reality of spiritual warfare that there truly is a war that is continuously raging around us. There's constant discussions and language of warfare that Paul uses in Timothy and Ephesians in Corinthians. And we profess to have an understanding of the spiritual realm of,

1:27:36at its very foundation, Christianity is a spiritual belief system or a supernatural belief system, but we live act and respond more like naturalistic atheists. So I started to see even in comfort ability, that is a strategy. We have a saying in the military, complacency kills. You get comfortable, you get complacent, which makes you apathetic, your head's not on a swivel, and it gets you or other people's hurt or killed. And I started to realize through that process how in the West, mostly the spiritual attacks come in a different way where the enemy is going to keep you at ease and do whatever he has to to keep you gossile. So you're not, you know, how many people honestly, and I was one of them can say they shared their faith with more than one or two people in the last 12 months. And yet that's one of the core mission statements that Christ gave was preached to gospel. Okay, can we do that? Can we defend the faith? Can we actually give a, a defense just

1:28:41from the Old Testament that Jesus truly of the Messiah is real? So it was, that was the real big slam in my face and what I would say that God taught me through that process of my career. We're studying the book of Revelation at our church and the pastor was speaking specifically about the what was written to the church at Lysa Dea. And it was a very, very prosperous area, the very wealthy. And they had all kinds of technological advancements, but Jesus in His rebuke warns them that they are neither hot nor cold. They are lukewarm. And if they're lukewarm, He will basically vomit them out of His mouth. And it was, and the point to pastor made, and there are many other rebukes of the seven churches at the time when this, this was written.

1:29:42And the pastor was putting home the point and it made a man. It made such an impactful kind of statement for me internally is that Jesus rebuke us because it shows that God loves us. If he didn't point out, if he didn't point out where we were failing, then he would say, okay, I've given up on this one. He's a lost cause. But he rebuke us and shows us where we failed because he loves us. You find that to be true? No, absolutely, absolutely. I mean, that's Hebrews 12.8. If you're without chastisement or discipline, then you're not sons. And the indictment against that legacy in church, we've heard that altar call, right? I stand to the door and knock. If any man opens the door, I'll come in and die in with him and he with me. But it is an indictment because

1:30:45it's a church in which Jesus is on the outside trying to get in. And unfortunately, you know, if you look at a lot of things going on, like, who is the center of attention? Is it me or is it God? In my worship, in that which I do, that which I pursue. But at the same time, like you said, he loves his church. He died for it. Right? But I think that there is, we have to come to face with the reality that we are all going to stand before the judge and see the Christ, you know, Paul states that in 2 Corinthians. In 1 Corinthians 3, we know that wherever we built up, would hay, stubble, gold, silver, precious stones, the day will declare it and fire will be put to it. And whatever remains is our inheritance. And some are going to have great gain yet, some will suffer lots and they will be saved yet so as to fire. And I don't think that's going to be a painless thing. But to your point with revelation and all of these things, it's not to beat up on the body and the church is to say, like, if Jesus loved us enough to die for us, to take all the sins of

1:31:50the world upon himself, if he was held nothing from us, why do we withhold anything from him? Wow. It's a great point. Let's talk about the book, The Disclosure Agenda, Grimba Rae's Warning to the Church that you've written and you were working in intelligence, or you're working in an intelligence platform, working on the UAP, what we used to call UFO issue. And you're warning Christians specifically in this book about these disclosures and what they may ultimately mean. So if you can go into a little bit of detail about that, Paul, I'd appreciate it. Absolutely. So my focus is not so much on the phenomena. One of the things that, because especially with the government dumps, no context is being given. And what we as the church missed in a very large measure, and this is what me and my director really saw,

1:32:52once we got into the space for a bit, was that we'd missed the belief system that had formed around it. And that's not me saying it. That's Dr. Dianne. And I do have a master's in biblical studies, but it's just a master's. And all that means is I know how to research. Dr. Dianne Pusolka, she's a PhD of religious studies at UNC Wilmington. She studies religion. She teaches religion and in the book American Cosmic, which came out in 2019, I believe it was. In the introduction, she puts out a thesis. I observed the dynamic genesis of a global belief system. That's a PhD of religious studies saying, I'm watching a religion form. It has sacred sites. It has doctrines. It has an essence to nominations. It actually has people that are basically commissioned by non-human intelligence to go forth and take forward their message and lead people into making contact with non-human intelligence. There are some people in the space

1:33:57that are very, very big. Steven Greer, he's been in the space for about 30 years. He is Baha'i faith. These things have been appearing to him since he was a child. Brought him along. He had his near-death experience. He was taken up, connected to God consciousness. He came back. He went out to meditate. He was taken up into a craft during his meditation. He states, and with three of these entities together, they developed what he called the CE5 protocol, which is a protocol using Eastern tradition, a mix of trans and dental meditation, to basically as a summoning protocol to invite and invoke and bring on human intelligence down. He views these as a higher evolved species. That's a very large swath of the people within the UAP space, and even amongst the U.S. population, a lot of them just see him as higher evolved entities. There's also another side,

1:34:57which is like Chris Bledso, who is out of North Carolina. He's actually one of the most institutionally validated people, with people from different departments within the government that have come out and witnessed his ability to summon new things. He was Baptist. Then went pulling his Pentecostal, and then after he had an experience, he was healed of this Crohn's disease. Shadow figures started showing up around his house, terrorizing his family. After four years, when he swore he'd never speak of the phenomena again. He is visited at night by who he identifies as the lady, who says, hey, look, ultimately this was all my doing. This was my work to bring you along. You need to put your absolute trust in me. I'll protect you. I will provide validating evidence to those external to your family. Then she commissioned him and says he's chosen to speak as a benevolence of the phenomenon. However, what she also tells him is that there are forces at work that will seek to paint this phenomena in a negative light. If that takes hold,

1:36:01mankind will be led on a path for ruin. At the end of his book, UFO of God, he states, look, do you want to see a UFO? Do you want to do this? Just go out. Reach up to connect your heart and mind. Reach up and say, I am here. It's not more difficult than that. In a sense, you have whatever flavor you want in this space, whether they are higher of all species, whether they are angels and good angels. You can kind of pick whatever you want, but ultimately the whole goal is to guide you into doing a summoning protocol or a contact protocol. If we know the text of Scripture, this is nothing new. It's all very old. It's just wrapped up in a different package. One of the things that I found so interesting is in Deuteronomy 18, when Moses is speaking to the Israelites as they are getting ready to go into the promised land, he speaks of different practices that are done in the land. He states, there shall not be found among you anyone who makes

1:37:02his son or daughter pass through the fire. One who practices witchcraft or a suzer, one who interprets almonds or a sorcerer, and a sorcerer is somebody who embives a chemical for an altered state, a mental state, or one who conjures spells a medium, a spiritual one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord, and because of these abominations, the Lord your God drives them out from before you. When you get into the space, everything within Deuteronomy 18 is inherent to it. It's not divination, it's just remote viewing. You're just seeing things external to your perception through a meditative practice quieting your mind. It's not summoning demonic entities or familiar spirits. You're just reaching out your consciousness to nonhuman intelligence. When you take a step back, take the whole of the space, the methods of contact, the messaging and narratives, the whole of it, abdup detestimonies,

1:38:03it's all there in the text. It's nothing new, it's very, very old, but spiritually the world is ready for it. We've rejected the Bible, we've rejected God, we've rejected his authority, and now, especially after the early 2000s, when we had pop atheists and everybody was an atheist, mid 2000s everybody kind of realized that doesn't answer my question, so they started to teach spiritual. And in that seeking of spiritual, about that same time in the mid 2000s, we got these random drops of UAP videos, and then a little bit more, then a little bit more, now the government's talking about it, now the government's releasing it, and now a vast majority of US population believe it, and so here is this belief system, and all these people would answers to give context and answers to what the phenomena is. So it is a belief system, it all runs

1:39:04counter to the text of scripture, and ultimately it's to pull you away from Christ, away from the God of the Bible, to an eternity of power from Him. We tend to think in strategies of very simplistic warfare, yet when we look at some of the things that we're capable of with psychological operations, influence operations, all these different things within different departments of war that we use, why do we think the enemy is less capable than that? And so Paul states in 1st, Lonean 521 to test all things, hold fast to that which is good. And so, and when I say this, so what I did in the book is I basically took the belief system, I took three of the key people, many of the claims, I show, oh, you have, go ahead Paul, yeah, yeah, you broke up just for a second, but you show what? Okay, so I just basically, I take the claims, narratives, methods of interaction,

1:40:06practices, I put it and I test it against the text of scripture, because that's what we're told to do, just like Walter Martin did back in the 70s and 80s, which is book Kingdom of the Colts. He just took the claims and the theology and the different interactions and took and tested against the text of scripture. So, you know, for us now, because this is at the forefront of our society, we can no longer afford to not give answers, because these are gospel conversations. How are you going to have a gospel conversation, share Christ with somebody that in this space, that is listening to people, has run a protocol and actually seen something. Christians, right? This is another issue in her book and we've actually seen this on our platform where people got into it and they basically apostatized. But in her book encounters, Pasoka talks about people that have had UFO experiences and then they reviewed and revised their own, this is what she states, reviewed and revised their own religious tradition,

1:41:08which was Protestant. And now speaking of this one person, what he thought of as angels before, he now understood his cosmic entities. This interpretive move is called the Sacred Text UFO Hermanudic and it's common among UFO religious experiences. So basically, rather than taking it and testing it against the text of scripture, they're now reinterpreting the text of scripture through the UFO, Hierobal species, non-human intelligence lens. Yeah. Yeah. So I would point to Ephesians 6, 12, for we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual host of wickedness in the heavenly places. You're right. It is as old as time itself. The book is the disclosure agenda. The author is Green Beret Paul Bach and he's been our guest tonight, fascinating stuff and I wish you great success with the book and getting the word out Paul. Thanks. Thank you, sir. You bet. The nightcap is not done yet. The Wildman, we talk about a balance in

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1:43:18Biggest Card of the Year. You've built a successful practice. What if your firm helped you grow it? What if you worked for a firm where leadership listens and decisions are made quickly? That's what makes Steffel different. We're a firm built for advisors by advisors. That means you come first with the independence to do what's right for your clients and the support and resources to build lasting success. It's also why Steffel was named number one overall in employee advisor satisfaction among investment firms by JD Power four years in a row. For 135 years, Steffel has never stood still from embracing an entrepreneurial spirit to empowering advisors with AI-powered tools to enhance, not replace, judgment. We're dedicated to being the advisor of choice for clients, the investment of choice for shareholders, and the firm of choice for associates. Steffel, where success meets success. Learn more at choosesteffel.com. Steffel Nicholas and company incorporated member NYSE and SIPC for JD Power 2026 award information visit jdpower.com slash awards compensation provided for using not obtaining the award. And now comes the important

1:44:24pivotal part of the evening. The last part I always say that the best thing about the best jobs are that you love going into do them. You can't wait. You're chopping at the bit to start and you love leaving when you're done. So we're routing third and heading for home now. We have the one, the only, the rehabbing wild man walker to join us in our last half hour wild man. Hello, how are you, my friend? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Gareth Jeff. How you doing? Good. So still doing the rehab at Indian spring. Have you, have you had any results on your GoFundMe page? I've done okay on the GoFundMe page. And it's slow, but you have not thought, not, not, you have a number of people that I don't even know contribute. I think some of that, I go that to you because I saw a couple of donations when I didn't recognize their name, but it's slowly trickling in on every bit, every bit helps. You know, the expenses I've occurred, you know, being in here where I can't go out

1:45:27and make our next money, but it's doing it's doing okay. I can't complain. Okay. If you go, if you go on Facebook to Dennis Walker's Facebook page, you can help him. There's a place there where you can help him with his GoFundMe to offset the cost of the rehab that he's been, how long you've been in there so far? Well, six weeks, six weeks. And I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm progressing really well, Gary Jeff, it's my walking issues. And I can see light at the end of the tunnel. I mean, everything else I'm fine with. It's just my, my walking issues and they don't want to cut me loose until they're really, you know, sure that I can be safer around my house. Well, just as, as long as the light at the end of the tunnel isn't an oncoming train, you're fine while, man. Yes. Yes. Okay. And the therapist here at Indian Springs are the top notch. I mean, there are, they're all into it. And they just want to be sure. And as long as my insurance will pay it, I'll stay here until until I really get, you know, 100% ready to go get up and moving

1:46:28around. Well, so how was the tribute concert they had outside of Annie's last Saturday night? You were, you were able to go, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, I introduced the band. Me and Shaggy were on stage introduced the band. And it was off the hook. A prisoner never sounded better. And they had some really great light show behind them. The crowd was awesome. There were no knuckleheads at all throughout the entire show. It was just an awesome show. Great turnout. I saw so many people that I had seen in a quite a while. And I think my back is sore from all the hugs I've got from the chicks that I knew that they were there. And it was just, it was just an awesome show. I mean, there was, you couldn't say anything more, more about it. It was just so great. And especially as a tribute to the Pete Georgetown, you know, who founded Annie's and it was just, it was a perfect title full moon. The weather was great. Everything was great about it. It was beautiful on Saturday night. It's not bad tonight either. So let me ask you this. You have you had any inclination on building a

1:47:32ramp to get your, your chair up to a billboard after the bingles lost this weekend? Well, that, you know, that that loss is a typical bingles lost. It's also against the team that they've struggled with in the past. I mean, you look at the overall record, the Steelers. I wasn't shocked by that. I think the bingles should have won that game. The ball would have bounced the different way. I mean, special teams were the difference. I mean, you had the stupid block pond and the attempt to find that, you know, followed on the on the pond. Yeah, that's by the way, that's that's a turnover by the way, because the bingles were going to get the ball. That is, that counts as good as an interception or a fumble right there. And then you had the muffed punt. A muffed pot and then football one on one tells you you don't try to pick up the foot. No, not with it. You follow on it. I'm yelling at the TV as he's trying to pick up the fumbled punt. And I go, no, you dive on that thing. You're not going to advance the ball. The worst thing that

1:48:34can happen happened and they lost the ball and gave Pittsburgh a short field. Now they scored on both of those turnovers, both the running into the kicker and also the muffed fumble. Pittsburgh scored a total of 10 points on this. So you take away those 10 points and the bingles win that game going away by a touchdown. And then you had the mystery, you had this communication of Zach Taylor, not getting another player in there and they had to call the time out. Joe Burrow was incensed about it. Oh, he was. That's for Taylor. Taylor said, well, that was my fault. That's always said was my fault. We've seen that too many times with this football team. How do they not have their act together with what players should be on the field when there's a change of possession? I just don't understand that at all. And for Joe Burrow, I mean, sometimes he just holds the ball way too long. And you could think by now, he would get rid of the ball quicker. But the the old line for the most part, 90% of the hell of a job protected Joe,

1:49:39the the Steelers online are pretty much dominated our defensive line. And that's the difference because we've made it that Warren kid. What do you have on our 24 yards rushing? Yeah, that was large for the Steelers. But hey, you know, I didn't that I wasn't expected to go for start the season. I just wasn't expecting. I think I think Warren total had about 180, 190 yards from scrimmage between running and passing and and receiving. Yeah, he had a he had a good day. He had a good day. But hey, then you'll go, you forget about that one. There's, you know, the bloody more in front of you. Jacksonville coming here on Sunday. That's going to be that's going to be tough. While man, that's going to be a day. But the Bengals have handled them. I believe the last four times in Cincinnati, they've been Jacksonville the last four times since Cincinnati. It's a home game. And that it'll be tough. But I believe the Bengals will will win that one for sure. They'll win that one for sure. Yeah, well, what it was curious to me is this this new refurbished

1:50:40they brought in all these pieces. This Bengal's defense, all of the sudden could not tackle. They could not break through the Pittsburgh O'Learn, which you said that game was really one and lost on the front line like most NFL games are. But Pittsburgh, who couldn't block anybody the week before were blocking the bit and then not only double team and Dexter Lawrence, but nobody else could break through to get the old man who's had as much time in the pocket as he probably had since he was at Green Bay. Yeah, they've done those quick passes. I think a lot of times Gary Jeff, when you could sit the Steelers and the Bengals, they know each other so well. And I think that has an advantage a lot of times in the game like that. I just think the Steelers know how to handle the Bengals. So where other teams don't really know because they don't see them that much, whether Steelers have been to play twice a year and they just know certain thing way they get away with things. Now I couldn't tell very, very much, but to me, a number of my friends that they were at holding Dexter Lawrence every play and that it wasn't being called. And that's where

1:51:44because that tailor should come in and say, look, you know, what's going on out here? You know, you're holding the guy. That's illegal to do. Well, you know, you don't win games with individuals or individual plays, but you lose games as a team and you win games as a team. And it just seemed like the team we'd seen the first two weeks didn't show up for this game for some, whatever reason you can cite the officiating, you can cite coaching blunders or individual mistakes, but they they just didn't seem like they were in sync almost from the when Pittsburgh jumped to that huge lead. Right at the beginning of the game. I mean, it seemed like they didn't come to play in the first quarter. We've seen that. That's it. Well, that was my buddy would say on California, typical back those game, typical back those games. What else is on your mind, buddy? You got to have some. Well, well, the red season is over. Thank God. A lot of questions have to be a lot of

1:52:50decisions have to be made. I mean, they still haven't officially announced that Nick Crawl is coming back, but it's probably a monomerading. They're bringing it back, which is which is insanity because his track record is crap, but there's a number of things he got to do with the pitching staff. Number one, the Brady singer. There is no way on God's green earth that you signed that guy to a contract. The minimum he's going to get is $21 million. So you get these red spans out there thinking they're going to get him for 10. No, the minimum is $21 million. They're not going to sign into that for the record that he had and the number of the most home runs that may know where you sign him. Use that money for somebody else to find a starter out there. They've got they've got the fine to me that the catch and situation Tyler Stevenson. Now they tried to trade them and there's there was no takers. Now he's a free agent and he may go somewhere because I hear the Yankees are interested. You got to sign Tyler Stevenson because after that, you know, Jose Dervino is not every day and the kid that that that trip away Louisville or double-way child. No, it's not ready yet.

1:53:54You got to sign Tyler Stevenson. You really do. So that's two issues right there. Don't sign singer. Don't sign singer at all. Don't have to think about it. Where he signs Tyler Stevenson. And then you got to consider what are you going to do about the outfield? Now there's a number of free agents out there and they really have to be careful there because their track record signing free agent outfielders is stuck. I mean, is it a stuck? Would you take a would you take a flyer on Ian Hap of the Cubs? I mean, the guy's always hit well at Great American Ballpark, but then that's against the Reds. I don't you know, I do roll a dice there and possibly bring him in to play outfield. I don't know. I mean, and then he goes through you got with Matt McLean. What do they got to do with Matt McLean? The guy cannot hit. He's had two years. He's hitting under 200. How do you how do you justify a guy like that in the line of every day hitting 200? What did you do there? Well, you've got a bunch of players on this squad wild man who just can't I mean, they can't bat their weight a lot of times. And you know, Tyler Stevenson, you make a good point. Tyler Stevenson

1:55:01is one of the best defensive catchers and game callers in the league behind the plate. He really is that good. So if his bat suffers a little bit, not every catcher can be Johnny bench. Let's put it that way. And you're right. I think that's a key. But these these tertiary players in the infield and the outfield, they got to sort out a lot of things like you said during the off season. Now, the other question is we could be doing night cap shows in April and May and June next year. Very, very easily. I think the the drop dead date for the TV contracts from age of league baseball to come to some resolution. What I told was July 14th. If they don't have us a baseball season by July 14th, there may not be one at all next summer. And that's a reality that I think is playing in some general manager's minds about what actually they do. I mean, because if they sign somebody to

1:56:04a one year deal that they need and will help the ball club, do you really spend that money in anticipation of a season that may not happen? I mean, there's so many balls up in the air with this right now, while men because of the impending lockout that I say is 100% guarantee the owners are going to lock them out. And the players aren't going to go for what the owners want. It seems players are not going to go. No way. The players are not going to give in on the salary cap. They're not going to do it. I mean, they fought long and hard. You know, fought long and hard to get where they are. They're not going to give it back. They just got to kind of meet the middle and work it out. And I'm with you. I really think there's going to be a lockout and if anything, it affects the effects of reds a huge way with all the problems that they have and all the needs that they need. It's really a mess. I mean, you'll see who's going to sign a contract thinking that, you know, what? There may not be a season at all next year.

1:57:09Why would I even commit to somebody where I'm not playing any games? It's crazy. I would say, make sure you have your talks all lined up. Have the players you want to talk to? And if they get settled and jump on it and get those guys to put their name on the dotted line, it's really it's kind of scary when you think about this, that all the scenarios that are surrounding this lockout and what can transpire, especially involving the reds. I mean, it's every other team that they have problems too, but we're going to more to determine the reds. And there's just a lot of issues right now. You have been doing you had been doing PA for Indian Hill High School football. How is Indian Hill doing so far this season? I've been checked. Well, we've had one league loss and that was in triple over time to Wyoming. As a Friday night, we blew out tail or 45, the nothing. The game was over in the second quarter

1:58:09and it started the running clock. We played, we played, we played, we played Finney Town on Friday, which should, which won't be much of a game. That'll probably be a running clock. We won't play Wyoming anymore. Wyoming is the class of the league. Like I said, they got one lost deer park as one lost, but deer park from what I'm told has really not played anybody. Okay. Deer parks on the feeder, but the deer park is not really played. They played a lot of subpar schools. They really haven't played Wyoming. They haven't played us. They haven't played Mandira. So, whether or so, there's two undefeated teams in our, in our, in the, since night of Hills league, deer park and Wyoming. And we're one and we're one lost and we're just one lost. So even with one loss, we should get the playoffs, but that'd be nice to have that undefeated season. So, that trip, that trip, well, overtime game. That's Wyoming was something else. So, well, any triple overtime game sounds like something else, well, man, have you been able to go since you've been in the rehab?

1:59:11Oh, yeah. I've been the ball. I've been all throughout the, I've been every home game. Yes, sir. That's not going to keep me down. That's not going to keep me down. I can come and go here as I please. I get one of my buddies to pick me up. I get me, you know, wheeled down to the, wheeled down to the car. I get in the car and I get there. I get there. I got a chair right there for me and I sit right there on the field right there at the 20 yard line in the cold again. Yeah, I got my spotter with me. That's where we go. Yeah, that's not going to keep me down. Do you have any goo this week before we go? I really don't have any goo this week. No, I don't have any goo this way. I do have, man, that maybe I do have one little goo. I do have one little goo. And this would be, what's with Paul game? Was that that I was watching? Was it, was it, yeah, it was the back, I was the back. Well, Steelers game. That's Puffy here. That Puffy here, fancy boy, sideline reporter right at halftime interviewed my McCarthy. Yeah. And he says, and he goes, and he asks him a stupid question. And he goes, how's Aaron Rogers?

2:00:15What the hell? And McCarty said, I don't know. I don't know. I'll let you know. How's Aaron Rodgers? I was good. See that those sideline reporters need to be, they need to get rid of those people. You know what I hate? You know what I always hate about the sideline reporters questions. Is what after a game, after a big victory or whatever, big emotional victory, how did it feel? Yeah, what do you mean how did it feel? It felt great. It still feels great. Why are you sticking a microphone in my face, asking me stupid questions that have no real valid answer? Not they have no valid answer before or after or in the twin. I can't believe those people get paid good money to do that. I know. I think they would job like that. How's how's he feeling? How's Aaron feeling? What is that? Well, that's, well, that's hard. Any journalists. And here's the thing. It also rubs off on these local teams in this town. They do the same crap.

2:01:19They do the same crap. Oh, sure. It's a big question like that. Sure. Because the big national people are getting by with it, getting paid big bucks. As you mentioned, for asking stupid questions and nothing that's germane, really, to the second half or the game itself, I'm 100% in agreement with you, Wildman, which I remember this probably to my dying day when Lupinella was manager of the Reds. And he would always be in a mate with all the reporters after the game. And the first question would always be though, Joe Mester. Joe Mester, right? We're for this a paper out of Middletown. I mean, I'm looking at the circulation. There was. I'll have no idea. But Joe would always, Joe would be the first. You know what, he's questioned with me every time to to Lupinella. How so and so with the injury? How so and so? He always gives about an injury. Not about the ball of the game, but about the damn injuries. What the hell? No matter what you man. Wildman? You say, you say all these pens in his pockets. It won't let you have a pant. It won't let you have a pant. Continue the panty with love, Joe.

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