A Lifelong Calling to the Unseen, Part Two | Grave Talks CLASSIC

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3:06Download the Clarna app today or visit clarna.com to learn more. California resident loans made a range pursuant to a California finance law license. NMLS number 1353190, Clarna Balance Account or required to be eligible for cashback points, limitations, terms, and conditions apply. Today on the Grave Talks, part two of our conversation about exploring the unknown with Traveler's Moon. Now, I want to go back to talk about, and I'm using the Velliscat X-Murder House, because I think it's a good example of how your abilities come in, Kelly, like how you're able to feel things, which I think is very unique, because you say it's like a movie almost playing out in front of you, and feeling, I would also assume you're feeling the emotions and the emotions would change from experiencing that horrific event from one of the children's perspectives.

4:07So when you go in to investigate, and we'll use that house, for an example, so what is each of your roles in that? You know, is there certain equipment that you would want to bring in? Do you bring everything in, or how do you even start an investigation in a place like that? If we're going into a location that we don't know that we're not familiar with, we do like to try to do basically a blind walk through, and it's just kind of recording my impressions of the location. That's not to say we don't try to also get his impressions, but he usually leads most of that to me. But when you're going into a location like Velisca, you know the history, there's no way not to. So we will go in and we'll still set up all of our equipment as much as we have the abilities, and we want to make sure to make that a part of our investigations. We want to try to back that up with the equipment as much as possible. So we'll still have static camps set up. We'll have our digital recorders running, we'll have K2s.

5:11I mean, all that typical equipment, rembods, all that good stuff. At this point, if I go into the list, I kind of know what's going to happen. And Velisca is one of the few places that we've been in that I have ever had to leave, and not leave like we don't come back, but I have to get out of the house on occasion, and just kind of reset because it's just, it's oppressive. I don't know how to describe it other than that, and I don't even know that it's because the spirits are necessarily still there all of the time. I think a lot of what people are experiencing in the Velisca house is that scar, that energy that has been left over at the location. You know, and you'd be a good person to ask this because I was having a conversation with someone recently about any house that has had a murder or something that's that horrific happened. I'm like, it has to leave an imprint in some way on the house.

6:15I just don't think you could have a horrific event, and then you move in, and it's just this nice little house with a great energy. I just don't, I don't see how that could be possible. What are your thoughts on that? I do, I think it almost creates a, Kelly mentioned like a scar, and that's kind of, I like that term. That's, that's the analogy that like, I like to put to it, that this location is, if it's locations of body or any location that something like that happens as a body, you know, a traumatic, awful experience like that is a wound. The only difference between, you know, say the house two blocks over or Velisca is people keep going into Velisca and picking that scar. It never actually has the opportunity to heal. So it's starting to, it festers it, you know, invite to in things, and I think of that's maybe the big difference between say the Velisca ax murder house and some random house where some teenager lost his shit

7:18one night and tacked his parents up with an ax. And I was gonna say, I think it has to do with the magnitude of it as well, you know, if it was one person who lost their life, if it was an accident, you know, that's not gonna lead as big of an impact as six children and two adults. And the energy that the killer was putting into that location while he was waiting for the family to come home and fall asleep was intense. It was very, very intense. But yeah, Chris describes it exactly. It's just, you've got this deep wound. It's a big wound because of how big of an event it was. And yeah, it just keeps getting picked at. And you can kind of experience that depending on the night in different ways. Yeah, by far the strongest night that I've ever experienced was the first time that I was there because for some reason we decided it was a good time to go on the 105th anniversary of the murders.

8:20That was my very first experience at the Velisca. It was very, very overwhelming. It is, it's like somebody hits play, but yes, I get to feel the emotions. I mean, it wasn't just that I was watching the movie, but you know how when you're watching a movie and somebody's walking into a scary situation and you're getting anxious, I'm feeling that anxiety. I'm watching the cylinder girls try to figure out where we hide. How do we hide from this? Because we know something horrible. It's happening upstairs. Hide, I've got to hide my little sister. I have to protect my little sister. Oh my God, now I have to hide me. Where do I hide? And oh my God, he saw us, you know? Oh, oh, that just gives me chills. And that energy, it's no wonder that it left that scar. How can you, after a night in a place like that and there are other places you've been in for sure that have really left an imprint on you that you experience in a different way than most people?

9:21How are you able to go home and ever get a good night's sleep after that? Do you have a ritual that you do at the end of, don't go home with me? Or I just, you can't really turn it off. Once you've seen it, once you've felt it, I would think that would just kind of stick with you like that horrible feeling of those poor girls. Whiskey and ambian. Whiskey and ambian. Yeah. Oh, it's actually a terrible idea. Don't do that. But it's true. You can't watch a movie. You have to watch it. And especially that's different than watching a movie. Like you know that happened and that the girls had to have been that afraid. And then what the outcome was for them. Yeah. I'm not going to say that it isn't one of the locations that probably has had the biggest impact on me emotionally being there and seeing all of that. But I try to help myself remember when we are in these locations that are a little bit darker

10:22like this that we're not there to glorify the horrible that happened. We're there to help make sure that the still and your girls are remembered. We're there to help make sure that the more family is remembered. We're there to help maybe clarify some of the inaccuracies of the story that have been blown out of proportion. You know, go ahead. And not just that, but it's also, you know, it's for them too because you got to imagine the Vellisc Axmer house, 364 days a year. There's people coming in asking them to relive. We were thinking ever has happened to them. So we can go in and have an interaction with them that is not full this time. What was your favorite color? Yeah. You know, Joe said, what was it like running your business? To give them that break is also intensely important. We try to help them remember what their life was like, not what their death was like.

11:24It's not to say that we don't give them the opportunity to talk about their death that they want to, but there was so much more to their lives than just that. Exactly. And this is the perfect example that those people are remembered for the way they died, not the way they lived. Which just breaks my heart. Have the two of you gone into a location and please share a name of a location if you'd like to that maybe you weren't expecting the amount of activity that was there or maybe the findings that you came up with because between the two of you, you have an interesting way of investigating locations. So has there been any place that you've gone to that really kind of surprised you? Um, I feel like your answer's probably gonna be the same. The squirrel cage, Joe, in pounds of blood. Here in Iowa. So I mean, I'll preface this with no to investigations you're ever gonna be the same.

12:26And this was definitely our first brine with it. So we're very excited to get back. But it's one of those locations that people don't really like talk about a whole lot. Like unless you're from the area, like I don't seem like a whole lot of people know about the squirrel cage, jail. And it is this, first of all, nothing else. It's a very cool like architectural structure. Yeah. And we did an episode on the squirrel cage, jail. Oh, awesome. And it is fascinating to me. The human vending machine concept is a weird one. That's like three floors and there's only one door. So you gotta rotate it. It's like a, waiting. The round jail, jail, cell, cylinder. I don't know how to describe it, doesn't that? But yeah, it's like a vending machine. No, it's like, like it was supposed to be, I remember when Cat was explaining it to me, like it was supposed to be like you could have minimal jailers. Right. Because there was one door. So one level of the jail would have what, 12 cells on it.

13:30But at any given time, you can only have one inmate that had access to the door. The other 11 were 100% stuck in their cell because they've been spun and there's no door anymore. But that's also part of the reason, unfortunately, that the jail that shut down because eventually the state of Iowa came in and said, fire safety held low. Yes. And they couldn't do that. But I think it went on longer than what I thought. I was like, because I think most of them closed in a relatively short amount of time. But that one, if I remember right, it stayed open quite a while. 69, I believe. I was gonna say it was way later than you would expect. Yeah. But yeah, that was a location that I mean, we knew that people had had experiences there before, but I just don't think we were an impaired. We heard some cool stories. So it was easy to be able to walk in the front door and be like, okay, whatever happens happens. It was just kind of a wild night. There was one point that it was towards the end of the evening

14:30that we were getting ready to start packing stuff up and he had gone up to the top floor, which was where the jailers living quarters were. And the stairs to go to any floor are all metal. And so I'm gone on second floor packing equipment away in the bags. And I hear Chris start coming down the steps. He's gone up to get equipment. I see him start coming down, I hear him start coming down the steps and I said something to him. I don't even remember what I said. And I get no response. And I'm like, well, he just can't hear me over his footsteps because it's loud. So I waited a little longer for them to get a little closer and I said something to him again. Still no answer. So I don't remember if I messaged you through the cameras at that point or what happened, but I got touched with him. He's like, no, I'm still up on the top floor. I'm like, no, you're coming down the stairs. He's like, no, I haven't moved. Personal experience is like that. I tried to rip my whole arm off. At one point, it's when we do our investigations. We like to live stream a chunk of it.

15:31And some of that is just because like, we try to be content creators best we can. And I think there's a nice level of transparency that happens with the live stream. I know it's kind of a hit miss topic with some people but for us anyways, it's a nice way to add transparency to the process. There's no like anything you can't fake anything. It's live. It's right. So for the live stream, we thought, oh, how exciting would it be if we handcuffed somebody to a cell and left him alone for a while and we put up a poll earlier that week and I got the short straw. So I'm handcuffed to Jake Bird Cell, who is a serial killer convicted. Yeah, who's convicted in the state of Washington but held in the Potawatomi County Jail for a little while. So I'm handcuffed to a cell and it's me in the doorway and his mannequins in the back. And we've got a grandpa in the doorway. We have our music box kind of acting as almost like a trip

16:34so if anybody were to walk into that cell block, they'd set it off. And we had a couple of those motions sensor, like the cat toys. It's relatively quiet. The whole, you know, I'm handcuffed to a cell thing is actually starting to lose its flare and I'm kind of getting a little cozy and I'm starting to ask kind of more personal questions. And it got to the point of like, it's like, I just, I have a hard time understanding you as a person, I guess. Like the idea of killing one person alone is just so far beyond my reach, much less the one with a 53 people that he was convicted of before he was executed. And I was getting to that personal level and I show you not every single piece of equipment went off. Both cat toys live up, the rem pod screen, the music box went off and I tried to run back into the cell and completely forgetting that I'm still like physically like attached to it. His hands literally handcuffed to the cell. And we don't know where he was going

17:34because towards the back of the cell is a dead end. Oh, I want to destroy the mannequin. Yeah. Yeah. And what's interesting when you said that you about tore your arm off in that jail, people did lose their arms. Yes, that's part of the reason they shut it down. Yeah, because it's not like they, you know, they could put their arm out a window. They had to serve them lunch and stuff. So they had, so that's interesting that of all things for you to almost rip off. Yeah. I never clicked, but now I'm never going to unthink that. But yeah, that was one of those like, we each got some like a very cool personal experience out of it. Our communications throughout the course of the night were, you know, pretty, pretty fun. Yeah, pretty intelligent. Whether it be IDC devices, EEG sessions, that sort of thing. So yeah, that was, that's the first one that comes to mind as far as I thought it was. Yeah, because it was just surprising. Have you ever, or do you ever, I should ask,

18:36go into do private investigations for someone that's, like my house, it's not right. I think I've got activity in here. Have you ever done any of those investigations? I actually, I used to a lot back in the day. I've done, yeah, I used to do more previously. I would think those would be difficult. And they definitely can be and it's, and it's definitely a big part of why I don't do it as much anymore. And this was just kind of, honestly, more of my own personal, like, mental health in the situation where, I started to subscribe to this idea. There's such things, paranormal, moon chows and syndrome, where people, you know, kind of, you know, get off on the parallel vestigate is coming out of their house and you can explain, I guess it is. Every logical reason in the world improved to them. There's a reason this is happening. And it hit a pinnacle for me one time.

19:37We, hey, I'm having, you know, weird stuff going on in my house. We need help. Can you help us? Yeah, I would love to help you. And I showed up to be an entertainment for an eight-year-old birthday party. And eventually, I guess. I had traveled, Quinn. What was that? I don't know. Pokey stuff's happening in the office. You keep talking about that. But I, you know, showing up turns out, it's, it's for to be entertainment for an eight-year-old's birthday party. Oh, it was a weird conversation like, hey, can you take the party outside? Can you go to, you know, like, to a Walmart for 20 minutes, like, I just say, I guess isn't something we can do with a bunch of people around. It was a very hard, awkward conversation. I, you know, do my thing and I'm finding

20:39reasonable explanations for a lot of things. Oh, the kids feel weird in this hallway while I'm also getting, you know, 35 milligaures EMF spikes, you got bad wiring. And, you know, they're probably just, you know, it's a weird irony of the universe EMF over exposure and certain people results in a lot of things. You claim with paranormal phenomena, spooky, uneasy feelings. Feeling alive. Yeah. And, totally, you know, visual like, you can make you hallucinations and some phenomena and to tell them that and be like, nah, nah, there's definitely it. And it's so true that there's just, there's people who don't want to hear that we don't know that your house is necessarily on it. How did you say that again? It was paranormal Munchausen syndrome. Yeah, paranormal Munchausen syndrome. I think that, that makes a lot of sense to me. I really like it too. If it's a kid from this haunted, it's paranormal Munchausen by proxy. Exactly. I'd never had thought of that before, but that makes so much sense.

21:39And it is a big, like it's disheartening to me because it was someone like the most rewarding stuff for me personally. Cause I feel like I did a lot of good, but they've just got to a point where like, people weren't accepting it the idea that, yeah, that's your dirty house is gonna have dust flying from the camera when you send new videos and stuff like that. Look, when I flop on this mattress, all these Forbes appear. Well, yeah. Does I scuffle my feet across the floor and there's Forbes everywhere. Well, yeah. Oh, it's, it's tricky. And we do try to help people when we can. We do like more consultation work now, as opposed to actually taking on full cases. And part of that is because if we go into a location now, and there is something there that they need help with, we are fully aware that our schedules don't necessarily allow for us to be that resource that they might need. So the last thing we wanna do is go in, oh, yeah, man, you've got some shit going on here. We'll be back in five months, you know.

22:40We've got other things to do. Yeah, yeah, we're fully booked for the rest of the year, but we can be back in November, you know? That's not really fair to them, but so we do do a lot of consulting and helping answer questions. We do on occasion still. I mean, this our investigation next weekend, it's a vacation. Or this coming weekend, we were asked to go in and check it out and see if it's in fact a ton of it. And if so, what's there? Kind of a different spin. So it's a private residence, but they're talking about opening it up as a, I think an Airbnb and that's curious about whether or not it is haunted, but seeing if like a haunting, they could be like encouraging through a certain demographic. And sometimes those are the types of consultations we're called in for it because like there's a location in Nagu, Illinois called the Canberra House. I did an episode with her too, and it was so interesting. Oh, Rebecca. I love Rebecca. I love Rebecca. She's fantastic. I really liked her. She is an amazing person and it's a great location.

23:44But so she had owned the location. She'd done her own investigating. She had Chad that is a gust of paranormal who's been an investigative. She wanted somebody who wasn't associated with her or the location. And I don't even remember at this point how she found me, but she reached out. She said, hey, I know you don't know me, but I got this location. I want you to come in and check this out and let us know. And I'll tell you what, talk about spooky experiences. I'm driving down this gravel road in the middle of nowhere between the corn fields. I've got the Mississippi on one side. Children of the corn on the other side. I am by myself driving into No Man's Land. I'm like, I'm going to die. And nobody knows where I am. Anyways. That was one of the best connections ever because I mean, I got to know Rebecca. She's a really good friend of ours at this point. We've been to Canberra lots of times. And it's just such a phenomenal location. Yeah.

24:44People should go back and listen to that episode too. The Cambry House and Farm, I think is what I named it. Some fancy like that. Super easy to find. But I don't know. The A-A-B-R-E. The Cambry. Yeah, she's amazing. And the location is so fun. Like the house itself has got spirits in there that interact with you. That's part of the Canberra family. But it'll land. It's something else for sure. I have really enjoyed this conversation. You guys are really interesting. So they can follow you on Facebook Travelers Moon. Can they get more information about where you're going to be coming up this year or how they can interact or follow you through your website? And I can put links to that on the description of the show. This is all you, Chris. Yeah, for sure. So yeah, Facebook's kind of our primary place where everything's like one stop shot.

25:45But the website is Travelers Moon, Para. I do the best I can with keeping our schedule up to date on there. And that keeps it's like the full annual calendar. I think already this weekend we've got 21 weekends booked between film days and paracons and all that jazz. Yeah, I need social media is at Travelers Moon, Para. So that is like Instagram or TikTok. The Travelers Moon YouTube page is going to get a big kick in the pants this year. And we do have actually a documentary that we've released that's out on YouTube. It's the Remwick Mansion. And that's to watch that. Yeah, that's Davenport, Iowa. It's this beautiful, limestone mansion that sits up on the top of the hill overlooking the Mississippi River. Oh, it's stunning. And you know, we were talking about the Spook Cave. And there's a video on your Facebook page. It's not real long, but you get a feel of what we were talking about, which looks so creepy.

26:45You guys, even if there wasn't any weird paranormal stuff, I don't know that I can do this. It is really, and it looks a little creepy, but very honestly, I mean, you get in there and most of the areas that you're in are pretty wide open. There is a spot that's a little tight. For most of it, it's pretty open. I just have this thing about caves. I just don't know, but man, I would probably trust the two of you. I'm like, if you guys say it's OK, I'm in. But yeah, so check that out on their Facebook page. But this has been great. I've really enjoyed this conversation so much. This is it. This was awesome. Thanks for having us. And that wraps up our conversation with Traveler's Moon. To get more information about them, as well as their yearly Spook Cave Ghost Tone, check out their website at Traveler'sMoonPara.com

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28:50Getting from that everyday moment to that memory didn't feel complicated. Booking.com made it easy to find that same stay again. The search, the options, the clarity around what I was booking. It reminded me how quickly a small spark can turn into a real plan when you have the right help. We all have that one place that pops up out of nowhere. The one that's been sitting quietly in the back of your mind. Once somewhere gets into your head, booking.com is an easy way to get there. Go on, book that trip. It's easy. Booking.com, booking.yeah. This is Ashley Akinetti from the Ben and Ashley I, almost same as podcasts. Ben, I've been reflecting a lot lately on how many big life moments our listeners have experienced with us. Yeah, it's pretty wild. They've watched us go from dating shows, to engagements, weddings, babies, buying homes. Every stage comes with new decisions. The milestones are the fun part, but the planning is where things get real. That's why Clarna stands out. Clarna gives people smarter tools to help manage everyday money

29:54with flexible ways to pay cashback that builds automatically everything in one place and support that makes everyday decisions that feel less overwhelming. Since life moves so fast, the right tools can help you feel more confident. Download the Clarna app today or visit clarna.com to learn more. California resident loans made a range pursuant to a California finance law license. NMLS number 1353190, Clarna balance account required to be eligible for cashback points, limitations, and terms of condition supply. I was out for a quick walk between meetings, passing the same row of shops I always do, the smell of fresh bread from the bakery, delivery trucks, unloading boxes, when a travel magazine in a storefront window caught my eye. On the cover was a photo of a boutique hotel in Copenhagen I stayed at years ago, the one with the cozy lobby fireplace and those big windows overlooking the canal. In that moment, my head wasn't on work anymore. I went from a sidewalk full of errands

30:54to picturing myself right back in that hotel. Getting from that everyday moment to that memory didn't feel complicated. Booking.com made it easy to find that same stay again. The search, the options, the clarity around what I was booking. It reminded me how quickly a small spark can turn into a real plan when you have the right help. We all have that one place that pops up out of nowhere. The one that's been sitting quietly in the back of your mind. Once somewhere gets into your head, booking.com is an easy way to get there. Go on, book that trip. It's easy. Booking.com. Booking.com. This is Ashley Akinetti from the Ben and Ashley I almost have his podcast. Ben, I've been reflecting a lot lately on how many big life moments our listeners have experienced with us. Yeah, it's pretty wild. They've watched us go from dating shows, to engagements, weddings, babies, buying homes. Every stage comes with new decisions. The milestones are the fun part, but the planning is where things get real. That's why Clarna stands out.

31:55Clarna gives people smarter tools to help manage everyday money with flexible ways to pay cashback that builds automatically everything in one place and support that makes everyday decisions that feel less overwhelming. Since life moves so fast, the right tools can help you feel more confident. Download the Clarna app today or visit clarna.com to learn more. California resident loans made a range pursuant to a California finance law license and MLS number 1353190, Clarna Balance Account required to be eligible for cashback points, limitations, terms, and conditions apply. I was out for a quick walk between meetings, passing the same row of shops I always do, the smell of fresh bread from the bakery, delivery trucks, unloading boxes, when a travel magazine in a storefront window caught my eye. On the cover was a photo of a boutique hotel in Copenhagen I stayed at years ago. The one with the cozy lobby fireplace and those big windows overlooking the canal. In that moment, my head wasn't on work anymore.

32:58I went from a sidewalk full of errands to picturing myself right back in that hotel. Getting from that everyday moment to that memory didn't feel complicated. Booking.com made it easy to find that same stay again. The search, the options, the clarity around what I was booking. It reminded me how quickly a small spark can turn into a real plan when you have the right help. We all have that one place that pops up out of nowhere. The one that's been sitting quietly in the back of your mind. Once somewhere gets into your head, booking.com is an easy way to get there. Go on, book that trip. It's easy. Booking.com. Booking.com. This is Ashley Akinetti from the Ben and Ashley I, almost name his podcast. Ben, I've been reflecting a lot lately on how many big life moments our listeners have experienced with us. Yeah, it's pretty wild. They've watched us go from dating shows to engagements, weddings, babies, buying homes. Every stage comes with new decisions. The milestones are the fun part, but the planning is where things get real.

33:59That's why Clarna stands out. Clarna gives people smarter tools to help manage everyday money with flexible ways to pay cashback that builds automatically everything in one place and support that makes everyday decisions that feel less overwhelming. Since life moves so fast, the right tools can help you feel more confident. Download the Clarna app today or visit clarna.com to learn more. California resident loans made a range pursuant to a California finance law license. NMLS number 1353190, Clarna Balance Account required to be eligible for cashback points, limitations, terms, and conditions apply. I was out for a quick walk between meetings, passing the same row of shops I always do. The smell of fresh bread from the bakery, delivery trucks, unloading boxes, when a travel magazine in a storefront window caught my eye. On the cover was a photo of a boutique hotel in Copenhagen I stayed at years ago. The one with the cozy lobby fireplace and those big windows overlooking the canal.

35:01In that moment, my head wasn't on work anymore. I went from a sidewalk full of errands to picturing myself right back in that hotel. Getting from that everyday moment to that memory didn't feel complicated. Booking.com made it easy to find that same stay again. The search, the options, the clarity around what I was booking. It reminded me how quickly a small spark can turn into a real plan when you have the right help. We all have that one place that pops up out of nowhere. The one that's been sitting quietly in the back of your mind. Once somewhere gets into your head, booking.com is an easy way to get there. Go on, book that trip. It's easy. Booking.com, booking. Yeah. This is Ashley Kennedy from the Ben and Ashley I almost have his podcast. Ben, I've been reflecting a lot lately on how many big life moments our listeners have experienced with us. Yeah, it's pretty wild. They've watched us go from dating shows, to engagements, weddings, babies, buying homes. Every stage comes with new decisions. The milestones are the fun part.

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