A Numbers Game | October 1, 2026 | Hour 2

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1:01This is Vison V Sports Betty Network. The numbers told the story. The Alex now swandles 80 to believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with Gill Alexander on Vison. Our number two of a numbers game. It's the sports Betty Network Vison.com game. Plus I hardware radio YouTube TV series, XM Channel 189 Gill Alexander Kelly, Bidlin. Still to come this hour. Jonathan Davis on hockey. Want to sleep on Jonathan? Right. But Jake Khan earlier equal time to Jonathan on hockey tonight. Um, and then of course crack band unscripted little later on. Looking forward to that. As always Thursday staple here on a numbers game. Our NFL power rankings coming up here momentarily as well. But first, uh, by request as promised. This is a Phillies play by play announcer Scott. Francis is their baseball announcer on a 94.1. W IP calling the Bryce Harper game tying solo shot last night.

2:03Ft. And a pitch Harper swings. It's one high and deep. Yes game is tied Harper and Schwerber go back to back. When the Phillies lead it the most. It's three three and we start over in the eight. Table for two with the chop house. Please. I'll go I'll go with you, buddy. Three three in the eighth inning. That's awesome. Good stuff. Scott Fransky. Scott Fransky. Let me get that right. Solid 94.1 WIP with the table for two call. Another iconic call by him. Phillies baseball way to go. New Chris. It could go. New Chris as opposed to old Chris. Chris Foster's old Chris. Yes, as opposed to old Chris and no other nicknames for the Chris's. I think you have other nicknames for it. Would you like to share all that? I do not at all. I do not. Please feel free. I think Chris is. Chris bananas for a foster. That's what you're talking about. Banana's foster. Yeah.

3:03He's bananas. Okay. Yeah, right. Alright NFL power rankings. Let's do it. Yeah. 93.3 WMMR rocks. There you go. Well done. Birds. Birds were there. Okay. Rob Marano finally admitted those were birds chirping right? I am not going to be able to watch that and hear that without thinking about the pushback that we got from Wyatt and Rob. The liars. The liars. Liars. Rob better guys than Wyatt though because actually when he took the time to read this into it, admitted it. Alright. By the way, I forgot to I had my chance to say 99.5 the mountain in Denver and I blew it. I saw you scrolling. I got a list. You guys did a great job of tweeting us a bunch. So we got a great list of ones to go through by the way before we get to this real quick. It's a poor junior thing. Like it's kind of sad. Isn't it? Mally only person thinks this just like this with the connection to the franchise.

4:04Yeah. That's cool. We're like just to fight over a few bucks probably in the kid leaves town. I don't know. Tell me that. Sorry. I'm a romantic. I'm just sad. You are romantic. I mean, Bryce Harper at home run yesterday. I can not be romantic about baseball. I think I'm running out of money. That's right. I can not be romantic. I just track it this Porter story since the beginning of the season. I was like, no way. No way. He actually gets moved and he gets moved. Much to Kelly's chagrin. I have not done my top 10 but apparently I've done my top 13 again. But the best part is I know he tells me so I just have the 10 years. Gills 13. I do it because everybody's a good complaint if their teams that first of all won't get any complaints from Patriots fans this week like it had last week and Bengals fans are going to complain to me either. I don't think. Yeah, I don't think so. 13th Texans 0 and 3 hanging on for dear life in my top 13. This has actually been a fun start with this though because we are wildly off on some. Eagles drop the most this week down to 12. Bears are at 11 now for the top 10. Vikings make their first move into the top 10.

5:06They are at 10th. You know what? I think they made their first appearance in my top 10 as well. Okay. Lions are at nine. I accept the Lions to go up from here because they'll get defensive reinforcements. The schedule remains easy but they're at nine currently. Jaguars, ticket up at eight. Also glad you said that about the Lions because you will not see them in mind. But I feel the same way. I think there's only one way they're going here and it's up. Jags are at eight Broncos. I think. Tick up at seven after they're come from behind win against the Rams. My top six remain the same and I got some splainted to do on this. Ravens are at six, figured out a way to beat the Cowboys in Rio. Chiefs are at five after all. They just beat the dolphins. So I'm not going to like bump them up. Now the Rams got beat by the Broncos. I'm not going to dock them. They're still four. I didn't have them as high as other people. I'm certainly not going to drop them any lower after that loss the Broncos. I still think they're one of the best teams at football.

6:07The 49ers who are the DVOA overall number one. I have it number three just based on schedule thus far. We're going to learn a lot more about them this week. Niners are three bills are at two. And despite losing to the Washington Commandos. The Seahawks are at one. Seahawks still outgain them by a million in that game. Had a couple fluke plays in there. I mean, maybe not flukeish. I shouldn't take that away from Washington. But you get the idea it was still a statistical domination by the Seahawks. So I feel I feel fine about my one through six. And that's how they remain for me heading into this weekend of football. Okay, don't preview mine yet guys. I want to I'm going to make a Gill Alexander. Make a guess here. So we have six of your top seven teams. Seven teams are in my top six. Which team do I not have? You do not have the. Of my top six or my top seven.

7:09One of them is not in my top six. You don't have the Broncos. Do you have the Broncos? 49ers. I do not have in there really. I don't know what it is. Number one overall DVOA by no. I know and it's I think it's interesting. The way we look at this team because look I love Brock. I mean, you and I have been Brock. Perty fans really since the beginning love him. But it's so hard for me to watch this team and continue to see big name guys go down week after week after week. And think they're going to be able to sustain this. So can I make you your head explode off your body? Sure. I see know how he does his story goals. Also, he's DVOA's goes all the way into the seventies through three weeks. You know, we like to bring this up also through three weeks like the best ever. The Niners are the ninth best. Ninth best total DVOA team since 1977. It's incredible. I mean, really it is every year you can doubt there's a couple coaches. I think you can doubt it your own peril. Shanahan's one well driven by the fact that they're passing offense. Specifically, they're passing offense DVOA is the third best of all time first three weeks of the season.

8:14Oh, this is what my answer would have been different a week ago. You know, Gil, your MVP right now is Brock party. I know I just made a bet on Josh Allen. I know I believe in Josh Allen more long term at the beginning of the season. It is Brock party. Niners coming eight for me. So they come and hit eight. I'm okay with that because I think the seven teams that I have in front of them are very, very good. Just go down to the bottom. Vikings in the top 10. You didn't move your top six either. Interesting. I know right. Yeah. I got that about your so 10th is the Vikings do bring them up. I think it's their first time on mine. Even though I was I think a little higher than you have on the Vikings heading into the season, but still first time into the top 10 for me. Bengals I kept there, but dropped them down to nine. That was a concerning loss last week for sure. And how was that Cohen just talked a lot about the Cowboys defense, not living up expectations. Okay, the bangles wasn't really good things down on paper. The first couple weeks did not look good on that side of the ball. We could go. So, you know, a tennis and tennis up on that team.

9:15We'll watch out here. 49ers eight. I have the Jag 7. Honestly, Gil, this is the team I went back and forth on the most. Like this is the low the worst I could put them at. If anything, it was going to be higher up here. I, I believe from this Jags team. Seahawks six. Yeah. Broncos five. I'm not, yeah, I wasn't going to take away a ton from that Broncos Rams result. To me, those are still two of the top five six, 17s in the NFL. I still want to seal. I think they're still a lot more good. We're going to see out of Denver. Believers in them long term. Believers in the Seahawks long term too. So I have them at six. Plenty of room for them to move up here. Broncos five. I think room to move up for that team too. Chiefs four. You think at the end of the season, we're talking about the chiefs being higher up than that in your power rankings of the lower than that. Right about there. I think right about there too. But if I'm going to say the Seahawks and Broncos are only going up in my rankings. I think the chiefs probably are only going down. Down is more like.

10:15Yeah. And then the top three. It is Ravens three. This is pretty clear cut to me right now. Ravens three Rams two bills one. I think the only way if you want to argue with me, Bill's being one just because defense being flawed. I'll listen to that. But I think those three teams. I think they're right right now looking pretty clear cut above the rest of the field. The Bengals are interesting to me because you have a ninth. I don't have them in my top 13. I mean, the Bengals remember just got by the what we now know to be the O and three Tampa Bay Buccaneers and they did so on three Baker may feel fumbles. Yes. Yep. Then they did the best win right of their two is at Houston. Houston is also all in three, though I should add. And then they lose to Pittsburgh and Aaron Rogers and their offense that before that game was terrible before they played the Bengals. So the Bengals to me like I really don't understand them to this point is a top 10. Now they have a chance to redeem themselves against the Jaguars this week, but like I don't I don't get where the hype is so far.

11:15Yeah, I mean, improved defensive numbers for the first couple weeks and then you have that offense that we've known come to learn over the past few years, right? But I get I get why you're saying that. I'm glad you said what you said though because this brings me back to this game tonight. Just looking at the first for it is such a small sample size. Yes. So such a small sample size and when you look at Steelers, right, that game against the Bengals last week, we're very impressive. I was dead wrong. I'm betting that right. Falkins with the horrible quarterback situation week one. What are you supposed to take away from that game if anything? And then remember the twenty to three blow out on the road against the Patriots where they couldn't do anything on offense and the defense didn't really live up. And then you have the Browns were okay week one. They look like exactly who a lot of us thought they were going to look like and get blown out in Jacksonville and then back to back wins. Do you like to hear the DVO a top 10? Yeah, three weeks. What do we got? 10th Rams. Okay.

12:169th Raiders. 3 and 0 Raiders. Yeah. Hey man, good on them. 8th Vikings. 7th Bengals. 6 Seahawks. 5 Ravens. 4 Chiefs. 3 Bills. 2 Jaguars. Wow. 1 Niners. 3 weeks though, like we said. It's a fluid situation and Aaron Schatz will join us on the show as he does quarterly. So I don't actually with 17 games. I don't know if that's at the end and next week or the week after. Probably the week after. Yeah, I think that's what we did last year. How about some hockey decks? Yeah. Jonathan Davis joined us. The man is 10. That much I know. What his hockey picks are, we'll all find out together next on a numbers game at Beast and these sports betting network. Hey, what's up guys? It's Hayley Bailey. Okay, I need to tell you about something. I just got YouTube Premium. It's got tons of awesome features like offline downloads so I can download my favorite videos before I travel and watch them whenever I don't have Wi-Fi because we all know airplane Wi-Fi is the worst. I get ad free, I get back room play and there's like a ton more in there.

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14:20The LAXander, as mentioned many times on the show, all picks from every host, every guest, and every sport available Vsyn.com slash picks for subscribers. And don't forget about our subscriber package as well, which is available for as little as 9.99. You get everything we do, including those daily best bets, exclusive betting splits, AI power prop tools and matchup analysis, access to all betting guides, all at Vsyn.com slash rather subscribing. The reason I bring that up is because Jonathan Davis joins us now. Vsyn, hockey analyst, you can follow him on Twitter at West Coast, hockey, NHL, but spell the hockey HKY, the abridged version, to get to Jonathan. Jonathan, in studio with us this morning to give some hockey plays for as occasionally miss him here, subscribers will find them at Vsyn.com slash picks. How you doing, man? I'm doing great. It's a great time of the year for me. Yeah. I mean, hockey season kicked off Tuesday at Golden Knights game on Tuesday night. And always a good time in Vegas.

15:21Yeah. Yeah. You look great, man. I appreciate it. You like, you said a lifestyle change? Lifestyle change. I made a decision back in like April to just kind of, you know, change, just eat clean, no more alcohol. Oh, wow. You're free. Yeah. What was it? You glimpsed yourself in the mirror or something? You're like, okay. I'm sure with a friend of mine and I came home that night and I cried. I thought I was pregnant with twins. Yeah. Turns out you were not pregnant. I was not. Yeah. But the point was made. The point was made. Okay. Let me ask you before we get to your picks here in the NHL today. Let me ask you some macro hockey questions. I know you've been elsewhere on the network, but for this audience, as far as the cup itself, is there a value play for you? I'll go. I said last night with Dustin. I said Washington at 17 to 1. I've got them in an exacto right now to win to either finish first or second with Caroline in their division. I think there are team built for the playoffs. So if you're looking for something further down the board, Washington.

16:22They've got, they have all the components. To me, you have to have an elite gold tender. I think they do in Logan Thompson, the former golden night. You have to have a defenseman that can be considered one of the best in the league. I believe they've got that. And I also, and I think they're deep down the middle. So they've got, they've got the components. Every caps fan listening to you right now is like, man, I hope you're right, but my, my instincts tell me you're not. Well, like it's such defences. But it's numbers like, yeah, I mean, here we are. We're on the numbers game. We're playing numbers. Absolutely. You know, it's kind of like, look, I took San Jose to win the division at plus 850. They have a shot. It's a good number. Any other division bet beside San Jose? No other division bet. Okay. You know, again, and you know, just some other small plays that, you know, I have you taught to finish second or third in their division. Okay. Where was that available, by the way? That's interesting. Draft Kings. Okay. And New Jersey to finish third in their division. So they're in the same division with Caroline in Washington. Like, I think those are the two best teams. And I think New Jersey, I don't think they're going to finish first or second, but I think

17:24they have a good shot at third. Do they leave these markets up typically once the season starts? They did. It was still up there as a last night. I think. Yeah, because we're not in full swing yet. Any awards you alluded to Logan Thompson. If I'm not mistaken, was second in the Vesana market. I have McLaren, Celabrini to win most valuable player. I got that at 650. It's now at 450. Celabrini would have said countless times. If San Jose had made the playoffs last year, he would have been the MVP. I think they make it this year. I think he'll be the MVP. Okay. Any other awards or no, just that one. Just that those ones that those ones I just, yeah, I'm. I've got a lot of bunch of other future like points and, you know, team points. Do you do any of the monthlies we had? We had a. I. Andy Davis in one of our listeners come on and give us October markets, which we do in baseball. Yeah. I liked. I liked Edmonton. I just didn't treat me right in in their opening game. Yeah. I do like Edmonton to have a really good month. Okay.

18:24Speaking of the oilers, let's start with tonight's game between the oilers and the and the conucks. You have a few bets on this or a couple of them. Yeah. So look, this was these two teams met opening night. It was an embarrassment at home for Edmonton. They were they lost six five and over time to Vancouver considered to be one of the worst teams in the league. They did rally from down five to in the third. I just think that, you know, this is, this is like super revenge game for them. So I love them in regulation. I think it's a, you know, I think they're going to score a lot of goals. So I kind of split a unit between the oilers winning in regulation and their team total over three and a half. If they score goals, then Conor McDavid has to be in it. So I like Conor McDavid over one and a half points. And then I did a parlay with McDavid and Dreyse, I'll over two and a half shots on goal. David and Dreyse, I'll still drive in things for the oilers against the conucks tonight. Okay. To the Minnesota Nashville game tonight, a trio of plays in this one. Yeah. So Matt, shots on goal props for me in this one here.

19:24And for those who bet shots on goal, there's, it can be one of the most frustrating stats because the way the league tracks shots. Can we talk about that a little before you go? You continue. No, no, no, no, Kelly and I are always, but we, when we did prime time action, we were fascinated by this. Yes. A shot that hits off the post is not a shot on goal. Correct. Because it wouldn't go in the net because it wouldn't go in the net. So literally speaking, it is not a shot on goal. But a, a glove save is subject to some subjectivity. Yeah, I tried, you know, it's funny. I tried to do a story with someone from the league off the record about how they're tracked because I have sat with goalie coaches who have gone into like the people who tracked the stats during the game and, and have told them, you are killing my goalie save percentage. Because what happens is that there, there will be a save that they make. But if they deemed that the shot would have gone wide, then they won't count it as a shot. And so, they're really coach are saying, yeah, but there's a guy standing like right on the other side of the goalie.

20:25And if the goalie doesn't make the save, there's a good chance that puck is going in. You can't do that. Right. So in effect, it should be rewarded as such. I mean, Carter Hart in the playoffs last year caught one in his chest, but they deemed it was going wide so they didn't count it. The key word there is deemed. Correct. We should, we should not have stats based on a deeming. Right. Yeah. I've been told at times and, and, and you will see shots at, at count, you know, that have been, players have been credited a shot at the end of the game. It's taken away or sometimes it's been added. It's, it is a little baffling. So, so have you had like late greeting on some of these? Oh, God, yes. Like what next day maybe it gets reversed or so? Usually sometimes like later that night. Wow. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's going to happen both ways. When you win, you're really going, yes, great job. I knew that was a shot out of goal. So, yeah. And let's go back to this national game. Yes. Matt Boldy of the Minnesota wild, he's got 60 shots and 15 games against Nashville.

21:26So that, you know, I'm doing a little quick math here. It's like almost four shots of a game. I think that checks out. You know, he's like, it's like eight of his last 10 games against or six of his seven of his last 10 against Nashville, at least four shots. Got him over three and a half shots tonight. Steven Stamcoes of the national predators. I like him also for over two and a half shots. It's been a number that he's hit with regularity and these two teams for their last five games in Nashville where they're playing tonight. We've had bonus hockey. You know, so we've had overtime. So I a small play on the regulation draw. You can get that. I think bet rivers is really the best site that I've seen. Oh, wow. It varies from site to site like draft like band, all draft kings have been under three dollars. So you really need to shop around for these games. If you like games going to overtime, shop around as you do with all markets. All right. So Minnesota, Nashville, you've got Matt Bully over three and a half shots on goal. Steven Stamcoes. I still think of him as a member of the lightning over two and a half shots on goal and then

22:26a small play on the regulation draw. Yeah. In that one. Yeah. In addition to the the oil is regulation and McDavid and dryside will each over two and a half shots on goal. You're a third in that one too, right? I just made David. Yeah. I had the over two and a half and oh, McDavid over one and a half. Okay. Can you show people the chicken scratches by the way, Jonathan has extensive notes. Can you hold that up to the screen? What are you writing down all of them? Oh, no, this is all. Can you decipher that? Yeah, I can. I can. I mean, I write my previews every day. Yeah. And I'm going through all the data and I'm going through various sites to just kind of track my information. So I love it. Yeah. All right. Before you go here, Utah Mammoth playing tonight. So get Chicago. Yeah. Last year the Black Hawk swept all four games from Utah. They held them to two goals or less in all four games. This is a bad Chicago team right now because they're missing their star player, Connor Bedard. Like they they looked overmatched when I watched them play Vegas. Utah's a better team than they were last year. I'll take, you know, it's a big price.

23:27They're minus 220 to win the game on the money line. I play I'll play them in regulation at minus 140. So Utah in regulation minus 140. Okay. Veson.com slash picks for all of Jonathan's hockey. He's put a hockey plays case. Those will be up by 11 a.m. Pacific 2 p.m. Eastern. There you go. All right. Now are you a Vegas Golden Knights fan? You're a fan of the team. I'm a fan because I've got some personal relationships with the team. Okay. I couldn't help but notice you didn't mention them when we're talking about futures. What is for the local crowd listening? What's your outlook on them? Yeah. I did bet them over one over 103 point and a half points. The Golden Knights, you know, they last year in the Pillow Fight division is Conor McDarard. Right. David labeled it. You know, they had what 92 points that was good enough to win the division. In their past four seasons, they've never gone back to back seasons with less with less than a hundred points. So I think they are the best in the division. So I took the over 103 and a half. Yeah. Though, of course, they got to the Stanley Cup final last year lost in six. Yeah.

24:28To Carolina. Are they the proverbial? If they can slip in, you don't want to play them team again. I think are those days over? No one say those days are over. I still, I don't, it's too hard out of the West. They get in. Sure. They're, again, they're built for the playoffs. They are built. That's what I mean. Yeah. They are built in a hockey. There's randomization in the hockey in these areas. They're in the playoffs. Jonathan Davis, everybody at West Coast hockey and HLHKY on the hockey. Great seeing you, man. Congratulations on the lifestyle change. I appreciate it. Look at looking great, man. Right here on a numbers game at Vecid, these sports betting that were coming back with Cracket and more. The number is game on Vecin. These sports betting that were back on a numbers game live at Circa. Kill Alexander, Kelly Bidlin back at his chair. Jonathan Davis, he's victiming him momentarily. That's right. Kelly, Kelly Sprint. And when the subject was hockey, Kelly just sprinted out of here. Is that what I'm going? I had to double check some important things in the back with the crew.

25:31A little bush on Twitter somewhere. Kyler Murray is reading the Mike Tomlin Minecraft news and going and you people gave me guffer playing Call of Duty. Hey, that's a that's kind of true. Yeah. I think Kyler said one is Call of Duty and one is Minecraft. Kyler chose to talk about that a lot more though than by Tom did to you. Notice how Tom that this didn't come out until he was done coaching. This is Dr. Van Noesdred Kelly thinking about going to the game tonight. Meaning the aces game. You know who should go. Bam out of bio and he should be sitting next to the guy she had beef with. I'll be out of the warranted. Well, that was in India. That's a different story. Hey, Brown Kelly and Gil going back to back with a Philly radio stations. Port 10 of things to come. Fills in a route tonight. No La Wheeler after the rookie started through three shutout endings to close it out yesterday. But go ahead and tell me it's a great pen, Paul Spor. Geez. My oh, I don't mark her for 20. Here's a rock station. I listened to a West Palm Beach shout out to Kelly. He had to have listened also to a 98.7 the Gator. I told you, yeah, 98.7 the Gator.

26:33That's a classic rock. I know that one. I was going to say one or three point one. The buzz has been mentioned on this show for power. Yes, many times over the years. That was my south Florida rock station. But you know what happened to rock stations skill. They died. That's why we asked for these now radio formats have died. Yes. One of my all time favorite DJs who worked at that station. Maybe I showed up one night at a gentleman's club about 10 years ago and he was the guy on the mic. Local radio has died. You know, I could do a 30 minutes on this subject. It ain't what it was. It was a simpler time. Now on the stage for back to back. Buddhist man keeps a keeps tweeting at Zach. Miss Rachel pictures. Isn't she the one with political views? She knows nothing about. Buddhist curious. Ia Olya S6-9. Once again, the lions dropped the ball with Joey Porter. Junior Dallas gave up nothing for that trade. We'll think of a second and a sixth, right? Well, Dallas Cowboys don't have many draft picks. So this is a 2028 second rounder. Go with it into the future and then 2027 sixth.

27:35He says I question the lions front office. I get the easiest schedule, but the lions need to start reinforcing their defense. Mandy Davidson, our hockey October guy. You're more than that, Mandy. But that was a great performance by you last week. Said Edmonton was the team I looked at heavily at 18 to one for the month of October. One of the easiest strength of schedules per bench rates at 9% but goal tenning kept me off. Tristan Yari is Swiss cheesy said. And on and on with the tweets we appreciate it as always from everybody. I think I skipped over some by the way. My bad. My bad to anybody skipped over. Oh, Patrick Kelly, Steeler and live sports delay horror story living in Denver downtown. Brock was always used fireworks after touchdown. Tibo wild card game against dealers out at home. At a bad feeling all week about the game. O T starts I see here fireworks from the stadium and then get to see Jim Nance call it as I cry in my towel. Fudge except I didn't say fudge. Yeah, yeah, that'll do it. I feel like we all have something like that. There is something that occurs where you're like, oh, oh, I'm that far behind and something

28:38big is coming. I had one in San Francisco was I was jogging and then from like somebody's window. They started screaming. And some it was a college football game that everybody was watching. I'm like, oh, that's not good. Whatever just happened. Like the guy at the grill and one of like the 17. I know that it feels when catchants of heat for this, but the Sunday ticket commercials are just nonstop. Like the Kelsey's. Oh, get the kid. They're coming over to watch the game. You have to be sure everybody's game. Yeah, the Kelsey's off my screen. Stop it. I think the guy at the grill. That was actually a better commercial. I think that's for a Sunday ticket. You know what he's at Gutside Grillett and he's here like the people upstairs cheering the game. He's like, who's got like, give me some info. Oh, what? You ready for teaser time? Let's do it. Do it. It's teaser time. Short and sweet. Thanks, Ryan. Whatever he's getting paid. It's not enough. Right? Really isn't. You know, I've caught up a lot over the past few weeks. I said, as I've been onboarding, I don't know, get getting Andrew Maxwell ramped up.

29:42It's been a lot of time downstairs. Ryan Hunter and I have had a lot of great conversations. Oh, I got. Oh, you and Ryan. Overall, great guy. He also like you as lost tons of weight. Oh, he is at another level. Oh, nothing level. All right, teaser time. Week four teaser options. Kelly has a poetic license. But there's so many two and a half. That's right. It's not much license needed. Browns teaser option tonight against the Steelers, although they were seen three. So it's not exactly a Stanford Wong teaser. Once again, for the uninitiated. Stanford Wong suited him really real name, John Ferguson wrote the book on sports betting back in the day. And he isolated the best teaser legs at the time of that writing that lasted for decades. Yes, totals matter. We don't want to get those text or those tweets from people. But essentially the best teaser legs of the most reliable teaser legs were dogs and favorites between one and a half and two and a half. Tees up through the threes and sevens and home favorites of between seven and a half and eight

30:46and a half. Tees down through the seven and three. Not part of that are road favorites of between seven and a half and eight and a half. So some natural Wong teaser legs. So the Browns right at this moment. If you see a two and a half at qualifies, right, as a long leg versus the Steelers tonight, Giants certainly do two and a half point dogs versus the Cardinals. Cowboys. If you can find them at two and a half, they're at the Texans, although we're seeing threes now, Jags are two and a half point dogs at the Bengals. They qualify Broncos two and a half point dogs at the Niners. They qualify Seahawks. If you can get them at seven and a half first, the charges tease that down. And the Falcons two and a half point dogs at the Saints on Monday night football. So those are seven very natural teaser legs. Kelly Bidley. If I said you got to pick two of them, what you got a teased bunch of these teased cow boys and Jags early in the week, there are a bunch of threes out there for the Cowboys. Now though, so if you'd prefer that, you can go that direction. I also teased the Jaguars and Cowboys with the Cardinals when they were on the other side.

31:48I think James, I think James throws it around a bit. I agree with Zach. I think he has a better game, but I'm not running to tease up the other side and create that natural middle. Okay. But if you could only pick two Cowboys, Jags, Cowboys, Jags already bet him that that one's pretty easy for me. I want to believe that the Broncos is a good teaser leg, but this is kind of where I'm just, I'm giving my respectful distance early this season to the 49ers. It's not really betting on them, not really betting against them. I think that one makes sense because I'm high on the Broncos this year. But man, that 49ers offense, we just went over it a lot, a lot of this show. It has been very, very good. It's Jags, C Hawks or Jags Cowboys for me. As much as I lean Brown tonight, because the other question you have to ask yourself when assessing these is, which is the one that you can see going, Hey, wire, the easiest Falcons, and probably the Giants, Falcons against the Saints, you see the Falcons getting blown out, blown out Giants, you could see getting blown out by the Cardinals.

32:50Yeah, I guess. It wouldn't be the most shocking, maybe the world. Right. I said in that offense show up and just, Jamie, Jamie, Jamie can't keep up. Right. Right. Tramick ride scores three touchdowns. That kind of thing. What is the total on that game? I actually feel that could be 44 and a half if the Niners blow out the Broncos and by blow out, let me just let me define. Let's say the Niners win by ten or more. Will you all of a sudden your brain toggle on the Niners too? Okay. Every week I think it does a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's possible. Part of the reason why I don't have the Broncos in a teaser right now. I've got more I've got concerns with this Denver team right now in two two places. Now Monday night was Monday night or Sunday night? Whatever they played. Second half obviously very different from the first half, but still a little bit of bow nicks and passing game concerns here. And then their rush defense just not being quite as good. I know they lost a couple players in that area last year, but that's where you need to see Denver improve right now.

33:52Yeah, I don't I we do a teaser segment on the megapod or at least we are made to do our favorite two leg six point teaser. I think I'm going Jagsy Hawks is my official play tonight. We'll see what Todd will I think the Jags to leg is one of the better legs of the year so far. Yeah, did our power rake is earlier. We both high on the Jags not as high as DVO who it hasn't second thus far through three weeks of the season, but the Jags have done nothing wrong. The Jags blew out Cleveland. Blue out. Was it Houston this weekend? I already forgot who they blow out this week already forgotten who they played Jaguars. Why am I blowing home that too? Hold on. And in between if you remember the Jags lost the game to the Broncos that they probably should not have lost. They looked to be in control of that game and then Denver sort of stole it from them. So Jags have really been good at football this this year thus far and I'm patriots. I'm sorry. Yeah. How could I forget both well better. It was the only thing we won last. All the ball is getting ready to do each other. Like could they play yet?

34:56So I don't know. So again, for me, I I will go with that. We'll see what the other guys do. Todd will and Chris Vileko on the megapod later. I will. I'll make sure to find and retweet again, but I'm just thinking as you were describing Wang teasers leading into it. You know, Ella who when we had him on he kind of sent totals at the window these days. Yeah, he's a believer just in these in these sides that are in these number ranges. He did and then Fesick had the nerve to push. I don't know about how the nerve but Fesick pushed back on him a lot disagreed with him a lot on some stuff. I'm T. Malahoo. Yeah, this is I am to and this is nothing against you Steve if you're listening. Okay, but I just like to bet teasers. So when someone says hey, there's still this is still a good bet go bet teasers. It's going to be usually pretty easy to convince Ella who also suggested some on air some off air. That the three team tens and the 14 13s ain't as bad as the sharps would like you believe they are. I might have one of those locked in for this week. Yeah. So put that in your pipe and smoke it as they say will do. Okay, where's my pipe? Malaford next on a numbers game coming back.

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38:38Yeah, makes 40 that makes the starkest sense college basketball is right behind that and college football then in the same vein right the point the value of a point is less than it is generally speaking than it is an NFL game. That's the reason. Break the board sports points out the oils appreciates a Ben Fox or old buddy Ben Fox putting this out handicapping 101 forget everything you saw last week in the NFL means nothing. And what he's referring to is that Ben Fox puts out the early NFL week for lopsided games by total money 90% of the money on the Rams is the most money thus far this week and week four in the NFL closely followed by 89% of the money on the Saints 88% on the Texans those are the most three at draft games specifically. I'm I'm missing on this tax inside this week. Dude and I like to think I'm not one to overreact too much to an 0 and 3 star from the Texans because it's been it's been three fairly tough opponents. I don't really want to punish them too much for the schedule so far.

39:43But I don't care what's gotten off as man again all this. Chris Heath got a remind Kelly not to tease teams with high totals well I brought that up with totals that it's. Noted a little less sensitive according to some and then it used to be Kelly don't care. John G wouldn't it be the Browns being the Browns if then to if if them to win seven games and not be able to draft one of the top quarterbacks in this great quarterback class. Oh totally be the Browns. Yeah Vince Puckett hey guys great stuff this week. Thanks is always guilty. You think you can. He says you think we get the mega pods Sunday mornings going forward. That'd be great. Okay get it together Steve Cohen not the Steve Cohen but he says the Steve Cohen 21 says Gill Kelly what about Seattle Jags on the six point teaser WTUE WTUE Dayton's rock and roll station. Oh right in it down. Thank you Steve. What was it WTUE like that Tuesday. Yeah WTUE. Yeah. Akron Dayton Seattle. Sorry Seattle Jags six point teaser. I don't hate it. I fact that was the one that I said.

40:44Yeah. The real Murphy Bruno is the Mark Bortard character who occasionally pops up on your show based on the Simpsons fictional character Ned Flanders. That's tremendous. Oh wait well is Mark Bortard the human based on the fictional character Ned Flanders. That's a great call. No wait you got this is wrong wrong Simpsons character now that I'm thinking about the Simpsons who's who's the bad guy who's the old guy who's like assistant. Smithers Smithers Smithers. Smithers. A Siston. I think the Ned Flanders ones on there too. I feel like it looks more like that than Smithers. Yeah Smithers you know my Montgomery Burns and Smithers. Yes thank you. Oh you're right it's more Smithers. Yeah you look it looks like he looks more like Smithers. He doesn't have a Ned Flanders glorious mustache who's the golfer what's the golfer's name Austin Smotherman. Smotherman. Smotherman. I didn't really think about that though until right now. Recap. Mark kind of does look like Smithers real Murphy Bruno. That's an outstanding tweet recapping the bets NFL week four. I'm on the Vikings minus nine and a half hosting the dolphins.

41:47They will be at least one of my two survivor plays this week. Seahawks minus six and a half got them going as well. I think they they go ham this week after losing to the commanders last week. Panthers plus three and a half. Um boy. Thing is they don't have their corners. It's tough. But I do have the Panthers plus three and a half against the lines and I got the Jags plus three against the bungles. For the bingles. I want to say it minus one twenty two bought that up. Chargers last winless eleven to one Vikings last on defeated eleven to one pumped about both of those. There's only five teams left in each of those categories. Baseball lost my Phillies Red Sox World Series matchup. Because that's pointed out on Twitter to me earlier. Hey Gil only the Red Sox has been knocked out of your Phillies Red Sox matchup so far. Yeah. So that one and then take it down a leg in terms of the wild card round bets.

42:47I had three of them. I'm one and one so far. Pogra is was a winner Red Sox was a loser. But if the Phillies get home and I did double down like you did. Nice afterwards. Nice. Let's go. I got the Phillies a pre-flop plus one fifteen over two dollars after after the first game. So this is a big result for me in this Phillies game. Send a couple more into the chop shot. Let's go. Let's go. That's a night game tonight. Again, it's the Phillies Braves simultaneous concurrent with the Browns and the Steelers and an hour after roughly an hour after that the ACEs and the fever. I can't go to that camp. I want to go in a desider tonight. Really really wish that was standalone. Oh, this is like we talk about with Raiders games right like never get out there because of the other NFL games going on. But what if there was more standalone. All right, my NFL for this week did add one here smaller play for me though on the bills this week. Laying the six and a half. Yeah, I just think these Jaguars man. They got real problems real problems.

43:48Although both of these quarterbacks should be noted. Or many questions so far in practice this week of hey, how you feeling? How you feeling? How you feeling? Because I don't know if you caught that would Drake May. He's like. Oh, he's been brought up a couple times real problems. You've been Patriots got real. Oh, thank you. Yes, Patriots. Thank you. Patriots that's going on with Drake May and the Josh Allen like there's been some questions about him being banged up. So I'm going a little bit lighter here, but I did did end up on the bills. Jags money line and then I got a whole bunch of teasers Cowboys Cardinals Cowboys Jags the 13 point teaser I mentioned earlier. Or that is the Cowboys the Jags the Ravens and the Chiefs and then Dolphins Vikings under 42 and a half and laying two and a half with the Saints on Monday night football added Josh Allen MVP this week. Plus 250 kills in on that too. We're going to win that together. We're going down together on that one. So we are. Let's see baseball. There's the Philly series price bet. So we got that on the line tonight and came Slitler to lead in strikeouts postseason and then the fever bets going here tonight.

44:51This will end as well. Fever over the Aces plus 155 and hopefully that W NBA finals won still alive after tonight plus 985 on the fever. I do we had a top wish of on yesterday his instinct was that the Aces will figure out a way to grind out a win. I have a feeling he's right. I think so too. Zachary Cohen on earlier he is on the Browns tonight on the money line against the Steelers and then Dishon Watson over one and a half passing touch as a plus 285. Colts commanders London town Tottenham Hotspur Stadium Sunday morning Pacific times 630 AM over 46 and a half. By the way we should mention Jayden Daniels is making the trip to London is making the trip to London. That's huge. No official announcement either way, but he is getting on the plane or I word is it. I don't know again. It's just a left elbow. Does that matter as much like getting on a plane? But I also feel like why would you make the guy travels? You're not going to play him. I don't know. And then Zach is Zach's also on the Texans money line against the Cowboys.

45:55So he believes the Texans get off the Schneid here get their first one of the year and then for the Giants James Winston with Jay Jay McCarthy breathing down his neck over 212 and a half passing yards from Zach as well in that one college football Zach had a couple plays as well. He is laying the wood with Miami minus 16 and a half. That was good of him to point out the pre flop on this but preseason. This is like a pick him against Clemson and he's on ASU minus four against Baylor Homer with the sun devils of ASU. And then after that we had Jonathan Davis in studio. Great to see Jonathan. Oilers win in regulation versus the conucks night. He also has a parlay in this one. Conor McDavid Leon dry side will each over 2 and a half shots on goal plus 111. Kelly loves a sogs bet. Sure do. Yeah. And then in the Minnesota Nashville game he's got a draw regulation draw at plus 310 Matt boldly over 3 and a half shots on goal plus 106 Steven Stamco's over 2 and a half shots on goal and minus 115.

46:55And great job by you Gill out because you're right. A shot the puck hits the post not on goal. But if the goal he slides three feet outside of the crease and saves a puck it might be it might be a shot. It might be if they if they if they deem it. If they deem it if the goal he wasn't there it would have gone in right Jonathan but that was a great point JD made about. Also the fact that yeah but there's another guy standing right over there so he doesn't make that say how can you not call that a save because he doesn't stop it right there that guy. So it's just grabbing it and scoring. Yeah. Oh one more from Jonathan mammoth Utah mammoth to win in regulation versus the black Hawks minus 140. Should have been the yeties right. You tell yeties. Oh my gosh especially when I saw it Fenway Park like a week ago a big yeti sign. Yeah so they're spending sponsorship dollars mammoth to win in regulation versus the black Hawks from Jonathan Davis. Crack next unscripted with the crack man Bill Crackenberger next exclusively on a numbers game right here at Beeson. They sports betting network.

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