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I walk through a complete 30-step playbook for building a modern SaaS company using AI agents, media, and sub-niche positioning. The core argument is that SaaS is evolving rather than dying, and the builders who win are the ones who combine a focused workflow product with a media flywheel and agent-powered execution. Drawing on my experience advising TikTok, Reddit, and building three venture-backed companies, I lay out a step-by-step framework any solo builder or small team can follow from niche selection through to becoming the default execution layer in their market.
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Timestamps
00:00 – Intro
01:18 – Step 1: Start with a sub-niche inside a big market
02:21 – Step 2-5: Map Workflow end to end
06:37 – Step 6-7: Create scroll-stopping content
10:15 – Steps 8–9: Double down on organic and run paid ads on winners
11:11 – Step 10: Capture emails from day one
11:47 – Steps 11–13: Manually perform the workflow and document every step
13:40 – Steps 14–16: Turn mechanical tasks into agent workflows and connect to real tools
14:47 – Step 17: Add orchestration, retries, and verifications
16:32 – Steps 18–19: Store user preferences and launch with high-touch onboarding
18:20 – Steps 20–21: Publish measurable proof and move to per-task pricing
21:21 – Steps 22–23: Outcome pricing and compounding value
22:07 – Steps 24–27: Expand workflows, build switching costs, create case studies
23:25 – Steps 28–30: Hire from the niche, reinvest profits, become the default layer
24:08 – Closing thoughts
Key Points
Start in a specific sub-niche, not a broad market — that is where sustainable cash flow lives, not VC competition.
The future of SaaS starts as a service business: manually performing the workflow is how I learn what to automate.
Media is a core business function, not an afterthought — content creation runs in parallel with product development from day one.
Mechanical tasks are AI's strongest suit; separating judgment tasks from mechanical tasks is the key architectural decision.
Per-task and outcome-based pricing is replacing per-seat models, and indie builders have a structural advantage in making that shift.
Orchestration — coordinating agents, validating outputs, and resolving issues — is the new interface layer and the highest-value position to own.
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