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Can Deshaun have a comeback like Michael Vick?

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Nick and JP discuss if there is any chance Deshaun can have a season like Michael Vick did in his return with the Eagles.

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Can Deshaun have a comeback like Michael Vick?

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Afternoon Drive on The FanCan Deshaun have a comeback like Michael Vick?. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.

That is Jordan Schultz of the Schultz Report in the previous segment. Great stuff with him on the decision to just start to start to start. What's that? To start. Just show on the board today doesn't help. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jackson's really dying. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that is a decision. That is a decision. That is something usually a crappy one. But that being said, the decision to start Shador Sanders and then I think people think you just do just you just you know, I think this is your turn. That's not my turn. No, no, no, no, I've butchered it. I've spoken maybe a hundred words in the segment and I butchered 97 of them. Yeah. Every now and again. Yeah. It's funny about it. I do wonder if you do it so often. I do wonder if people just tend to think it's like a bit you do. Oh, you mean like if I said like instead of saying like issue, I said, it's you. Yeah. One of those things is that your yours was so relatable.

Yours would be throwing in all sorts of problematic words. Yeah. Words you're not really supposed to say on the air. It's been this week. I just kind of thrown them in. I dropped the G on angels. Yep. We heard that. I clearly we heard that. I gave you blue jays, but the other one. Yeah. That was I I mean, I didn't say it, but I you know, we definitely put that one out of the ether. Listen, we're just into a new schedule this week in the last couple weeks. I can only use that for like another week of having a wake up at five 30 now every morning. I'm going to use it every chance I get every if I keep saying what I'm saying. You were clean on Ohio's tape. That's true. That's true. When I really there was high money that one is going to go bad. And you know why? Cause we were aware. Is that is that we were aware of the danger? And I did not see the danger there. But this knee up on you. You know, one of the one of the lines that annoys me here is well, if the Browns liked the Shedore so much, why why why why they why didn't they name him star, you know, week one starter or if Shedore so good, why couldn't he be down to show that then the perception is that he has an outlaw to quarterback competitions and obviously different coaching

steps. Two different coaching styles say that like three times in the last 24 hours. And that's how people are genuinely taking this, which I think is a little just off. He was never going to win this to fansky one. That one was cooked from jump street. And then I don't know. Listen, yes, technically he lost this quarterback competition. I'm not going to try to rewrite history as we're doing it right now and suggesting that he beat out to Sean Watson. But Munkin is essentially said the the books were cooked. Yeah. It was always going to end this way. So I just have a hard time. And maybe this is where I was right. I have a hard time admitting that idea, that concept that he genuinely lost this. I just that maybe I'm just being stubborn about it. Isn't it talking a little bit outside, but both sides, your mouth there though from from certain people when they go, well, Shedore was so good. He would have overcome to Sean. And he'd be starting week one while also saying maybe they feel better about Shedore learning the offense and that he'll be better week four because of it. That's a little bit. Well, as if they're doing Shedore some sort of big solid here. Yes. As if

this is all in service of Shedore. And this is the four weeks that he would take is going to be better for him in the long term. Well, one, it belies that Dishon Watson doesn't have a long leash, which means they don't really have that much conviction in Dishon to the idea that the difference between Shedore being ready to start weeks one in three is two weeks of practice when he's not really going to see any of the reps and he's already splitting scouts out team reps. And then three, if you start Shedore Sanders week three, that competition was much closer than anyone wants to give credit for. I mean, I, yeah, not only is it much closer, that's the really what that would tell you, if they go to Shedore week three, that would tell you that they just really had to know with certainty that Dishon Watson could not do it. Yes. And it's fine. They gave, they came to that conclusion quick. Then I, I will be happy if they just come to that conclusion quicker than I think they will. And that's all I'll be settled in on the idea that they really just wanted to make sure because I, because there's that fear in the back of their mind in a season that you want to win games and you want to try as best you can,

but a season where it seems like they're focused on 2027, I really do feel like they needed to make sure Dishon did not go to a different team and then end up being good. And that's maybe that's what two weeks is which which at this point, I wasn't worried about it. Bad reflection on the Browns. If the Browns didn't play Dishon this, this, this season at all. And next year he went and he looked like the Michael Vick version with the Eagles where Michael Vick with the Eagles didn't look anything like Michael Vick with the Falcons. He was still a, he was still a usable NFL quarterback. He did sign two different 100 million dollar contracts for a reason. Yeah, I mean, I don't think he started one post prison. I don't think he started more than 12 games in a season with the Eagles. Aren't, aren't there right about that? I'm now asking you to fact check me on air, but that's okay. I can fact check out the air. I mean, I'm fairly certain he did, but that's all right. We can do this. But like Michael Vick. And by the way, the point is Michael Vick was fine 2.0. He wasn't Michael Vick in Atlanta. I thought it was one good year in total, but I will,

I'll have to look out of here. In Philly, let's see, he started 12 games, then 13 games, then 10 games, then seven games. That was about four. I missed it by one damn game. I should have said 13 games. Okay. No, I'm not mad at you. I'm mad at me because I was like, for some reason, the 12 games stuck in my head, 216, 474, 0092. But it's still again, the whole point with Vick was that it got him, it got him a that year one out of the gate is when he ended up getting that $100 million deal off of he not only one comeback player of the year, which is something we talked about yesterday, but he went to the pro bowl. He was an AP offensive player of the year, number two selection there. And he put up some, he put up some pretty good numbers, all things considered. Was it the greatest thing you've ever seen? No, but he looked, he looked function only with good. But at this point, if Dishon goes elsewhere and looks good, you're going to say he never would have done it in Cleveland. Yes, but that will be a reflection of Cleveland. Yes, but also it'll be a reflection of Dishon. We should never lose set of the fact that Dishon is not lived up to his

end of the bargain. The bulk of the responsibility for that is still Dishon. If we never got to see him play with a different head coach, though, we would at least I would, I would look at the browns and I would say you didn't think any of this blame could have fallen on Stofansky? The lead in five minutes on 92 through the fan.

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