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8:37Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that crowd definitely enhances the show but good shows, you know, regardless of that. But I feel like the crowd made it even better. When I saw triple mania announced for two nights, I was like, oh, hot damn. This is the last triple mania. I watched Kenya mega was on it. And I paid for the pay-per-view or whatever year that was. Yeah. I think the bugs were on it and all that kind of stuff. I had not to say I haven't kept up percent clips or anything since. But you know I mean to be invested like, yeah, it's coming to. So this I was excited and when I saw where it was going to be, I'm like, hopefully Vegas is a decent show. Mexico is going to be definitely a good show because that audience every single time when it was AEW grand, you know, Grand Slam Mexico and the arena Mexico, it was great. Anytime WWE goes there, it's great for the Triple A show. The audience is great. It's just guaranteed. The worst they are is better than so many American audiences. It's just like that. I was excited to see RAW in Mexico. I think they said they hadn't been there in 15 years or something like that for a RAW

9:38at least. So yeah, I don't know where to start. Do we start with El Grand Ais and Stephanie Vicares doing stuff in Chile or where do we want to start? Yeah, we could start with that because that is fascinating just how over El Grand Americano continues to be Mexico. Obviously Stephanie Vicares from Chile wins the World title in Chile. That was a huge reaction, huge pop. I'm glad they filmed it. I know it's for Club WWE, but I'm glad they filmed it. Yeah, and just you mentioned the Club WWE. How many different apps and cable systems and stuff do you need to watch WWE's product at this point? How long? Yeah, I watched that match from some fan cam on YouTube. So I got to see it. It's probably nowhere near as good as the production WWE, but that's the thought that went through my mind. I'm like, really, that we're doing this now. Of course we're doing this now. That's where we're at. Of course, WWE style. But man, what a reaction for Vicares down there. It's funny too because I was like, gosh, she lost to live. Where the hell does she go from here? And now she's back to being in shape again.

10:39This was so much better in her home country in front of her family. You can see members of her family crying before she even won just the scene and what was going on. I mean, nothing beats that going back to Osprey and Wembley and just anybody who's ever been able to do that. There's just nothing more special. You can't be the man. Or not only the wrestler and their family but the fans. That's just super cool. All those British fans at Wembley and all those people in Chile for one of their own, Stephanie Bacchero. And then she pops up on Brawl as the champ in Mexico and that was a special kind of thing too. It's not her home country, but it's Spanish speaking and all the rest. So yeah, I thought it was cool. I'm glad that they saved. I like the title change on a house show. I wish they would do more of that or just be more unpredictable in general. It doesn't have to be specifically that, but that was on like Sammy one. All of us were thinking Penta was going to win. He didn't, but like, we had reason to think that based on recent events.

11:41So would you say kind of shocking just if you just look at the grand total of the tour, right? I mean, they did those four so plus house shows. Then they did the two triple A triple mania shows and obviously Ron Smackdown was in there in the mix too. And when you look at it, when it's all said, it's like, wow, there's a total new landscape of champions here that you didn't see coming because this almost seemed like, okay, September October, it's kind of like a dead period before they'd been star building up for survivors. Really, nothing happens. And then everything happens. Yeah. I just do. So it was a good shakeup. I feel like a much needed shakeup that they definitely needed to do creatively. I do too. I'm more interested in WWE TV based on what they did. I would have been even more interested in Penta one now that you can have everything you want live. What you're, what you're opinion on that? Because I know the prevailing wisdom for many is like, oh, you got to wait, you let Oba take it from him. And I totally agree with that. Oba's the main guy you're building to be a face of the company. I get that. But before I say my piece on that, what did you think of the fact that those fans in Mexico

12:44when they saw Penta lose had a certain kind of look on their face and it was not happy. But that's good. I love that. That's great because he's Roman Reigns. He's number one guy and you want the atmosphere that this guy could lose the title. And then he escapes with the title. I escaped, but he's still retained. So I love that stuff because they did it with Sammy Zane in Canada. They did it with Drew McIntyre in in Scotland. They've done it with so many guys before, but especially Roman Reigns title rant. I love when they do that. They tease you that he's definitely going to lose. I know it's a little bit different title run, but they tease you he's going to lose and then he pulls it out and he wins. And then they crowd has a certain reaction. But that just to me makes for a better match and a better finish and kind of almost unpredictable. It's like, oh my god, a photo is going to lose. Oh my god. So you're interested in his next title, the fans as well. So I agree with everything you just said that would have been completely my thinking. Even going back to Sammy and Montreal and what was it two, three years ago now, I don't know. But I've changed my mind a little bit in this sense. So you want them to believe that it can happen and they're good at that.

13:47I think it's special of Roman Reigns has held it for 10 gazillion years when Obama beats him. Obama. Obama maybe. Yes, I do. Obama run in with that happens. But also you saw the exuberance and the excited, how excited everybody was in Mexico, the Mexican fans. And they're going to walk away feeling a little like, man, damn, this couldn't. My point would be, does it really hurt business of Sammy one in Montreal? And it was such a big deal. You had a cool week or two at TV and Roman got it back somehow. Would it really hurt business overall if Pint had won on raw in Mexico and had it for a week or three or whatever that looks like and Roman got it back and does it lose it again till Oba. I think the Oba winning it from Roman would be almost just special. But from a business standpoint, these different places that you don't go all the time. I guess they go to Montreal more than they go to Mexico. But like, you're really giving them something to make them want to come back.

14:47It's a special moment. If Pint of beat Roman, we'd be talking about that 15 years from now. We're going to be talking about what Oba beats Roman 15 years from now. But could we have been talking about both and both would have mattered? I think you could. I think it might have been better for their bottom line and for fans across the board. Maybe you disagree. It is interesting because to me, I don't have Roman lose until he lose to Oba to make that title win like really emphatic just to give him a real isolation. But to be honest, it doesn't really hurt if you will because if you go back to 97 and Lex Luger beat Hollywood Hogan at Roadwild, he beat some, I mean, excuse me, he beat some on the Nitro holds the title for a little bit less than a week and then loses at Roadwild. So it's only a week there and then Hogan continues his dominant run. I don't think that hurts the end of the year. And I don't think they had heard Hogan's run. I think they kind of made it cool for a little bit. You get any pop to crowd, if you will. But here with Roman, I mean, it could have worked. You could have done that, but I necessarily didn't expect it, so to speak. But I just thought that was a really good title defense and like, wow, he, oh, he's almost had it.

15:48Yeah, it was nuts. They're crying. You know, they're Roman sneaks away with the win. Yeah, I just, I just think there are certain very, very select moments where you should do that for the reasons I just said. And also, it's in the back of people's mind that it's been done before and can be done again, even though if you rarely do it. And I think intent, Mexico is the time to do that. That dude is a star in the States. Sure as hell is a star in Mexico. And that just would have taken him to a next level that doesn't hurt Roman long term or Oba at all. That's, I say that in retrospect. Now what happens if LA Nightwins is a title for a week and then Roman gets it back? What do you think about that? I'd like that too. And I'm a big LA night fan. And I know there's a, you know, a small army or maybe not so small army of LA night fans out there like what the hell? The sky would be a world champion in, you know, most contexts, but, you know, I think it's different with the pentathane in Mexico and where they were at and the time and the crescendo of it all. It's a little different than LA night beats Roman on a SmackDown or something or even a pay-per-view. I just think, I'm not, I'm not against that.

16:49I would be all for that just because it's shake things up. It keeps things fresh. I'm a big LA night fan. He is world champion material, but time, place, momentum. Sammy was a version of that. Penta, I think was a version of that. Now, it definitely wouldn't have had Sammy win it at that point because he had Cody get the big moment and it was too close to me. Anyway, I don't like it. It was. Roman's title run was epic. So you got to have Cody do it. I agree with you. It was what was it a month from when Cody finally beat Roman. We're talking about a half a year. Yeah. If I can't do my math that quick, but Easter time is probably what's a little bit different thing. And you've got money in the bank coming up and what? Four weeks, three weeks. I don't know. Three or four weeks. Yeah. Yeah. That's the main man Roman going to beat him. They could have done it on TV. I don't know. I'll stop going on and on about that. I'll give you something else about Sammy's name, which I didn't even notice until my friend message me this. I knew was 9-11. Obviously, I knew was September 11th when they were recording it, but I paid no attention to it.

17:49He goes, wow, I can't believe Sammy won. I said me too. I'm like literally shocked. I was literally floored. I'm like, oh my god. He actually won. It's like, whoa. And he goes, no, no. I'm like that. He goes, I mean, like on today's date. I'm like, whoa, he goes, and I'm like, wait a second. He said, what are you talking about? Like, yeah, like I'm shocked. He's like, no, they had a Muslim win the WWE title on 9-11. I said, oh my god. I didn't even realize it or think about that. What do you think about that? Does that mean anything or no? I wouldn't have thought of that. Two things I think about that. Not every, not all Muslims thought 9-11 was awesome. And I would say most of them not. Right. People pointed out, I actually remembered at the time that in the days after 9-11, one of the greatest street visuals, a candlelight visual held memory of the victims of 9-11 was in a row. From kickoff to the final whistle, trade the biggest moments in football on Kowshi, America's number one prediction market platform. Denver is currently trading at 40% to upset Los Angeles, meaning a $100 trade pays out

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21:55And it was perpetrated by radical Muslims. So I get that. I'm an American too, but like, come on. It's, Sami Zayn is not an enemy of the United States because of what his faith is. Oh, the first thing I was going to say is most people watching WOB don't think of him as a Muslim. So there's that too. Here's another interesting kind of like Muslim tie into that little curveball here. So after money in the bank, the next pay-per-view crown jewel will be in Saudi Arabia. Is that why maybe he's champ? They want him to be champion for crown jewel. Maybe that would make sense. I mean, that's good business. That goes back to what I was saying earlier. You're going into Saudi, like that's his territory as far as his faith in whatever. Same with Pinto in Mexico and whatever. Yeah. I don't think it's bad business to give the locals. And I say local in a big sense. Saudi Arabia gives them a lot of money. So did Mexico this weekend. I don't think it's bad to satisfy them and want them to come back even more next time you're there. So yeah. For sure. When you're looking at that though, as far as Sami being champion, were you shocked at

22:55punk loss because I was like, Florida, he's being no one's on TV, he's being gargano, it just seems like, all right, he's got only successful title defense. He's like, whoa, he's only a champ for two months. Like, whoa, what the hell happened here? At this point, I didn't expect Sami to ever have the title again necessarily or not right now. It didn't feel like it. And so I didn't expect punk to lose right now and certainly not to him. So yeah, and I wasn't mad at it. So and I like, did you see punk's promo beforehand that Netflix censored about what he said about? No. It's not a cuss word. He's like, I'm not losing to some guy who's been jerking it or something like that. You remember that promo? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's what you watch that the bullet replay now that's not in it or. Yeah. But here's another thing that I didn't even think about until I was seeing that they were at crown jewel. They usually do like champion versus champion. Then you're the crown jewel champion, right? That's like the thing. So they were saying that they didn't want to give away Roman reigns versus punk again because they wanted to save that in their back pocket either for a future WrestleMania or like

23:56another huge paper, like a huge summer slam or something. So they didn't want to give it away that quickly, meaning from WrestleMania to crown jewel, it's a certain amount of months. They didn't want to give it away. You think that played a role as a maybe Sami? I mean, I don't know. We're speculating here as do all wrestling podcasts who a certain degree that maybe in that would make sense. I hadn't really thought about it in that way. But yeah. Do you think Sami is the best character in WWE right now? Because so many people including your good personal friend Vince Russo was saying, oh, he's the Wendy's fry cook and he's the cab driver. He's Sami Zayn. He's nothing. Don't you think that his character is one of the best WWE right now as far as justice for Sami and all the other stuff? I think he's really entertaining and I didn't hear Vince Russo say that I'm not surprised to hear Vince Russo say that the part of what makes some of these characters great is they all, you know, I've talked about this. If you're watching AEW people that don't watch wrestling would look at Brian Cage and be like, that's the champ, right? Like that's what they would assume and that's nothing against Brian Cage. He does look like he should be the champ. But it's not just about that.

24:57So if you're saying Sami Zayn looks like the Wendy's fry cook or whatever, I remember when Grunge got popular Gene Simmons who I like, Tis probably more than any Grunge band said, like, I don't want the God that I'm going to see the band to look like my pizza delivery driver. And I'm like, I hear you, Gene, but this musical thing's happening and you've got to understand in a larger context besides just that. So Sami Zayn doesn't look like a Brian Cage or certainly not like a Roman or even a Cody or punk way he looks right now, but he's believable, he's credible and he has an attack, you know, he connects with the audience. Yeah, I think he's one of the most interesting characters they have. He's a total whiny jerk right now and that's what he's supposed to be. In the parlance of modern wrestling, he's not that small either. Maybe if you want to talk about your music, oh, he's too small, but not need more. I mean, he's not that short anyway to be honest, you know, maybe he could be more jacked, but he's not that small. I think about that a lot. I went to one of the NWA legends, FanFest dinners where they put a wrestler with you at the tables and God rest his soul animal.

25:58Was at our table road warrior animal. And one of the things this was a number of years ago, we were just talking, just fans talking to a guy and he was like, moxley, I guess was the champ at the time, Dean Ambrose. And he was like, that guy's, you know, you should have guys that look like the working on McCart or too small or basically what he was saying he was too small. And I'll watch AW now and I'll see Moxley. I'm not going to name any names because I can't think, but I'll see Moxley standing next to other people who are stars like, damn, Moxley's bigger than him. I noticed that he actually got a better shape. And yeah, that too. And like Sammy's not a small guy. I think about that all the time. The most I ever thought about that in a weird way when I was kind of getting fed up with Coronet, just bashing AW all the time. I was at one of those North Carolina shows with the young books for standing next to the Rock and Roll Express and they were about the same size as far as height and whatnot because Coronet was always saying, oh, they look like middle school grade school kids or whatever they're not really good. Right. And they're not really good. Especially Nick. Yeah. And the greatest rivals like that's the midnight express is greatest rivals.

27:00That's your, you're the Joker. That's your Batman. Yeah. And I just think about that all the time. So Sammy has body that look like Dusty Rhodes, one of the greatest champions of all time. I mean, come on. Like, it's not just about that. So if that's the reason thing, it's funny too. People realize some of the guys like Brian Danielson, I think he's small. He's like 205. So I mean, he's not like really that small. Sean Michaels in his prime way like 215 ish. I know he's tall, obviously a lot tall, but it's like, you got to realize sometimes like to Danielson has big legs like that. Okay. He's probably going to be weighing a little bit more. So it depends on the guy and it's different, but with Zane, he's not that short. He's not really that small compared to the guy today. And if you actually look at his acting ability and his promise, because I was never his aim fan, I got to give him a hat tip. He's been awesome on his promo. He's been a white glitter actor. If you want to make my baby face, he pulls it off. You want to make a heel pulls it off. He pulls off the tweener thing. Great too. So. He really does. And on the size thing, you know, like everybody knows bad ass Billy guns is biggest whole coconut because we talked about it. But like back when in the attitude era, I never thought him as being that big a guy.

28:03Especially he bumped. He bumped around like a cruiser way. Yeah. But he was. The first time I met Rick Flair, I saw him standing. He was about my height. Now he had a lot more muscle and a lot more hurt than I had. But I was forward. I was like, man, because I'm like 5'10", you know, average male height. But that's what what he was. I was, I was like, man, this is the greatest champion of all time. He's my height. So you just don't know perception. You know, yeah, it's funny. The like people were like, oh, Brett's small, showing small. When you actually stand next to Michael's like 6'1", Brett Hart, 6'1", Brett Wade, I think it's probably 240. Yeah. So it's funny. Like that's a heavyweight MMA 240. Like, what are you talking about here? Yeah. And MMA has helped that that I think a little bit out too. Because you realize the guys aren't the weight. It doesn't really matter as much as per say when you think about it. Right. Back when they were saying Brett and Sean, oh, we got to get some small guys, steroids trial. We got to get away from that. They were comparing them to Hulk Hogan and Sid Justice and the ultimate warrior. Yeah. It's like the biggest men in the history of men going back to biblical days and giants. Like what are we talking about?

29:04And even road war animals, 6'3", 275", easy. It's like this guy's a freaking monster. Like these guys were huge. Right. Yeah. I didn't know. In no way take that as a disparaging animal. No, I love animal. Yeah, it was a bad name. I enjoyed the conversation that night. But I do think about that from especially veteran wrestlers. Oh, these guys are too small to read everyone. Well, Darby Allen's probably the best example of a guy who if you look at him, he shouldn't be any kind of world champion or a top draw. But once you see what he does in the thing context, it makes sense. Rey Mysterio's similar in that way. And when you watch Darby hit some of those movies like man, he's not, he's not like John Moxley tapping the guy in the head. He's going, he's hitting the guy hard as hell here. It's going after him. He's not going to crap out of people and expecting it back. Man, it's just the crazy just to think about go back to Mexico, like just the success of that tour. They were saying it's like 50,000 people were at just arena CDMX. Just at that one arena because I think bro, it's Mac down and obviously one of the triple manias were there. So all three almost, I guess you would say sellouts if you will, did great business at

30:09that arena and obviously then you ate in Vegas, triple mania, did I think 6600, which is great because they initially had an arena set up for 1,100 people and like wait a second here, let's go to this bigger place in Las Vegas because we could sell 5,000 more tickets. So at least they did that. Man, it's far enough. And then obviously the rest of the tour was a huge success. So man, who does the WWE great job at Mexico and obviously triple mania, El Grady, Maric Hanna? He's the man. Well, I mean, what a great, nothing's going to top the mass versus mass. That's one for the ages. I mean, if they do God bless them, but like him versus Dominic was awesome, Dominic is over in Mexico. And in a way, he's not always treated the same on the main roster. People talked about that. I think Cheg Gabel should be in AAA all the time. He is a top star there. He does not get treated like that on the main roster. He's not perceived as that on main roster. People like him, but he's a mid card guy in AAA. He's a top guy. And I think he should just wrestle there all the time. I don't see El Grady on WWE TV in the States anymore, nor should we. I don't think except like in Mexico, like they made all the sense in the world.

31:09But I think they might water him down if he was just popping up on Raw and SmackDown all the time. Do you agree? Yeah, and then they boom in the States. So then it's like, yeah, like, you know what I mean? I'd rather keep baby faith in Mexico and be the biggest star. Stay there. You're the world champion in this huge company that's owned by TKO with your hot Mexican announcer girlfriend and the whole entire country loves you. Why would you go away from that? So. Yes. Now, we were talking about Moxley just for a second here. I am not the biggest Moxley fan in the world, although I like how they're actually taking the Death Rider storyline with Osprey and continuing it rather than give Osprey like ricochet the paper you where you know Osprey is going to go over. You know what I mean? Like do the predictable thing. So here at least you have Moxley and I would think Osprey is going to win, but it's a little unpredictable because at least they have the history where if Moxley did win, they could keep the feud going and kind of extend this Death Rider thing, which has been going on for months. So I like that part. It's interesting. It's not interesting because I don't think Moxley is very good. It's just not a Moxley fan at all, but at least this storyline is a storyline.

32:12I like Moxley more than you do, but I think everybody would be disappointed if Osprey won on this first or lost, excuse me, on his first defense. Yeah. Like, who do you give them to make it interesting? Most people just like always going to beat them. People think that about Moxley, but with this story, it makes it more interesting. More people are willing to pay for the pay-per-view as we watch with a lot of them. That pay-per-view as we're talking is sold out with WWE doing a show at the same time, with CM Punk on it in Chicago, AW all out is sold out. I expect them to open up more seats, but pretty cool. You're not hurting their business, and I bet the buy rates don't get hurt either. I just like the fact that you have a storyline, and instead of like, yeah, let's take it easy. You know what I mean? You go full full throttle and you go and continue that storyline because they can't you're the teased with him handed in the flag and everything. Right. So I just like the progression because I thought they were going to go the easy way, which sometimes they do with like MJF or OMGF is fighting this guy. Okay, okay, we know he's not going to lose.

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37:16Yes. That could make even for more of a fun show. Exciting. Yeah. Definitely. And I feel like a lot of people will kind of go out of their way if they're a big AEW fan to go to that show, they counteract with WWE is trying to do when they obviously had that show booked out for a while. I know it wasn't announced years ago, but they've had that show in that spot booked out for a while. WWE obviously knew that. Well, let me ask you this. We're talking about the competition and WWE did know that and they're doing what they're doing. That world's collides show is what triple A NXT and main roster people couple. Yeah, technically WWE because punk's out. Yeah. That's not seen as like a raw smack down PLE really. Is that fair to say? Not technically, but honestly, if you put CM Punk on there, it is. You know what I mean? He's their biggest one second biggest star. Yeah. For enough, I'm just always like nothing WWE does hurts AEW's buy rates or their ability to sell tickets. It just doesn't as far as these big shows. And I was like, oh man, if they did a like summer slam or maniac against AEW, wouldn't

38:17do it. I don't know the answer to that, but with Punk on the show, you're getting closer to something like that and it's not hurting AEW. Yeah. And I feel like AEW is smart enough not to go head to head with the WrestleMania of Summer Slam, but WWE is kind of like begrudgingly dumb enough to go head to head with some of their big shows and not deliver something huge. But this punk thing kind of changes it to me. I mean, that could be a deterrent for AEW. Yes, man. I can only speak for myself. I'm going to watch all out and then catch up with the other stuff later. What was the thing I had to catch up with the last one that, what was the NXT show that I didn't really watch because or I did watch it. He could just kind of skip over it. Could you already see? Let me get back that. When I watched it, I'd seen those spoilers in about 36 hours for the NXT show, it was all about Will Lost, Bray and Wimbly and all that. We'll see what this looks like. You would punk spring him back to Street Edge Society on the show and then were they're advertising? Oh, I don't know. Is that true?

39:18Maybe I misinformed in that. Maybe I read some, some idiot on the show. Maybe somebody's joking around, yeah. Might be, might be. So my bad if I said that, that's not true. Now, wanted to mention this because I thought this was interesting and we were talking about 9-11 before. Do you make anything about the mom, dummy, AOC laughing at the 9-11 smiling? Do you make anything of it or no? When I first heard it, I was like, all right, even if they were like these evil Muslim simple-thrars who hate America, like there's savvy enough politicians to know not to do that. And then when you saw the extended footage, they're standing there solemn as is everybody. They see each other. They exchange pleasantries and smile for a second and go back to being somber. Anybody else shared a video? Was it Rudy Giuliani and JD Vance, like slapping back at the same event or something doing the same thing? And everybody's like, look at Giuliani and JD Vance laughing at the 9-11. What I hate about stuff like that, it's, I'm a right-winger. I'm on the right. But like, I'm worried about the dead. I'm worried about the stupid wars. I'm worried that another country called Israel's in charge of so much what we do in terms

40:21of speech and the money we spend and all that. That's the stuff I'm pissed off about. People, people on the right who have a problem with the left think that the right is better for the country than the left. They get the strife, it's stupid crap like that. I remember like 15 years ago, all conservatives were like Obama went to the Middle East to meet with the foreign head of state and he bowed. I think I wrote about him like, who cares? He's being diplomatic in a foreign country. Guess what? Our national debt at the time was $17 trillion or something like, you know, he just dropped bombs in Libya and now we have ISIS. Those are problems, you know, like the national debt. But conservative left wingers do the same thing. They talked about Russia, Gait, Putin, and Trump. Like it's stupid culture war to a level crap that doesn't mean anything and it distracts people from the bigger problem. So did that answer your question John? Maybe a little bit too much. Yes. But here's another interesting thing that I found interesting. You said right-wing, right? Technically, you know, you're on the conservative side. Did you know that Mark Levine and Ben Shapiro have a guidebook, if you will, if you listen

41:26to them, they tell you what is a conservative, how to be a conservative, and what it entails. Did you know that? Were you aware of this? And are you following this from those two? I didn't know that they had a formal guidebook, but their career is to do that. They think if you're neoconservative, you're in the conservative movement and I can define that for you if you would like and if you're not, you're not. That's what they mean. So Trump in 2024 or 2016 was like, I'm going to end these endless wars and we're not going to have mass frivolos. I'm going to stand up for free speech. He was saying things that were anti-neocon. He didn't belong in the conservative movement. He wasn't a real conservative. They might not have said that explicitly because they knew who their audience was, but that's what they believe. And Mark Levine was very critical of Trump for specifically the things I've talked about. But now that Trump is basically a default, they fact-owneocon who does everything that Lindsey Graham and Bill Crystal ever thought was a good idea. Oh, this is what conservatism is. I'm Ben Shapiro and Mark, he calls himself Levine. I love that you pronounce it the way it's actually really. Right, right, yeah, yeah.

42:27You can show business reasons, which, you know, I love Jewish people. I don't know why he has a problem with his own Jewish last name. Yeah, I'm probably losing track here now, but that answer your question a little bit. Well, Randy Levine used to be the president of the Yankees and he's Randy Levine. So that's my head. I'm always like, it's Levine. It's not Levine. Come on, Mark. I'm not mad at anybody for changing their name and for show business. We see it in wrestling all the time. But I'm also, you should be proud of where you're from and who you are. Kind of an interesting thing that I felt was very wrestling-esque happened in the political world. It was almost like, Mitch, it's back. Mitch McConnell is back. Let's get his 30 seconds. Let's do the answer. Let's get him in the wheelchair. Let's walk. It's going to do his little, you know, pyro goes off. Picture, picture, he's going crazy. Put him in the car. Legit look like the, if you've ever been to Disney to Hall of Presidents where they have the fake president. Right. It like he looked like one of those like wax, whatever animatronic guys like they put

43:27him back in the car. He's like, mounts open and he's just staring off into the distance. I was like, wow, they just propped him up, put him out there, say he's still alive. So he makes his grand return after three months. Where was he? What was he doing? What is he doing now? Sit down the wheelchair and stare it off into the distance is what it looks like. He's been doing everybody thought he was dead. Right. So did I. Yeah. He's still breathing. So he's not dead. But look, I understand what this is in every critic of it. It's like, why is this guy still in the Senate? This is embarrassing. This is wrong. Everybody's absolutely right. But let me answer why he's still there while they're protecting him. I come from a state where strong firm and was 100 years old and was still in the US Senate. And he retired. I think when he was 100 or 99 in like 1999, the reason why they protected him and had this old, decrepit man that didn't know where he was half the times because of seniority in the Senate and the power that entails. He had been there since the 1940s talking about he being strong, firm and when he ran as a dixie grad. So in the 1990s, South Carolina wanted to keep that leverage for their own state, that

44:29kind of power. That's what this Mitch McConnell thing is. Kentucky. That's what it is. And those roll out the vegetable and like, oh, here he is. He's the senior son of the Kentucky. That's all it is. It's embarrassing. That's what it is. It almost like you almost have to like make it comedy, make it comedic. Of course. I'm saying the whole of president thing, but he was like, wow, what the hell is going on? They're literally just propping him up for like no good reason. And he's got no idea what's going on. It's kind of sad. Yeah, related to that, I shared something on my social. Somebody said, this was before they wheeled out Mitch McConnell, like literally hours before. And they're like, McConnell's office has released photos of him talking to other senators to, you know, Shep he's okay. And there's him talking to Lindsey Graham. Oh my God. Did they know he's dead? Like, oh my God. It was a joke. It wasn't McConnell's office. It was just people having. Oh, okay. I was going to say I thought they were, oh, okay. I thought they were trying to work the people there. Okay. But I shared it. But before I shared, I was like, man, Lindsey Graham just died. I get you. I never respect for the dead. Then I thought about how little respect he had for millions of dead people.

45:30I was like, the hell with that? I'm sharing this right now. True. True. It's so funny. Like, he's back. And then we never see him again. I mean, who knows, right? I mean, it's crazy. Yeah. I mean, I worked for the junior Kentucky still from San under Rand Paul in the seniors Mitch McConnell. And, uh, yeah, maybe that pecking water changes sooner than later. Here's something that I found crazy too. And I was listening to Nancy Pelosi talking about Iran. And she was on Trump's side. What's up with that? I'm kind of shocked by that. I can tell you exactly what's up with that. She believes the same about Iran is Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro. We were just talking about that neo conservative view. Centrous Democrats and centrous Republicans are not that different on that. You show me an ounce of daylight between Hillary Clinton and John McCain on foreign policy. You can't find it. They're the same people. You got the far left people, your Omar's and whatever, and your far right people, Thomas Massies and, you know, maybe Chip Roy or somebody who are more and agreement on some of this foreign policy stuff and you got the center.

46:30Nancy Pelosi, you don't get any more establishment Democrat than that. And the establishment in DC, whether it's A-PAC, the defense contractors, they all want this war with Iran. They pay Nancy Pelosi just like they pay Mike Johnson and all these crappy centrous Republicans. She's just spouting the same stuff. And Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro are right there with her. Hell, Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro, if you ever see this, I don't think you will. Because you don't like me and you don't like professional wrestling as far as I know. Nancy Pelosi is a perfect conservative according to your definition. Because she's a thorough neo conservative when it comes to foreign policy. And that's all you guys care about. I was just shocked that she was like, oh, I'm with the president on this one. Like she's never with the president anything. I was surprised. And she's very, you know, obviously for this war with Iran. When Trump first bombed Iran, I think Hillary Clinton praised him for showing leadership. Jab Bush, who Trump basically destroyed the 2016 debates was like, Trump finally did something good. We got a praise president. Stick by all those people have the same opinion on this. Hillary, Jab Bush, Mitt Romney, John McCain.

47:32They're the same Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, the same person. Kind of crazy when you think about it. Just the. I'm used to it. Yeah. And I was told this. I won't say by who, but I was told that not only is the affecting gas prices, it's actually affecting getting wrestling figures and certain things that they need to make their wrestling figures to get the parts over here. So not only is this affecting gas, it's actually affecting wrestling figures. By the way, this war with Iran, believe it or not, that's what I was told. Well, that could turn the election. Those big rubber figures are patrolling in base, right? What you do? Yes. Yes. I know we had those LJNs when we were kids, didn't Matt Cardona bring back the big rubber guys? Like, yes. Love it. Yeah. Those are still the best wrestling figures. Those big rubber ones you can't move in my opinion. I totally agree. And if you remember King Kong Bundy for some reason, weighed like 20 pounds. You could really hurt somebody with it if you wanted to. I had a King Kong Bundy. I was watching a clip with Shane Gillis and Theo Vaughan talking about how wild WWE wasn't the 90s would like big boss man and big show and the funeral for

48:33big shows dad. Yep. But Shane Gillis was talking about all the wrestling figures he had. And I think he brought up Dilo Brown and there was somebody else, but it wasn't like Stone Cold or something that his nephew has of now. And he says when he goes home for the holidays, his nephew's playing with him. He's kind of pissed off. This is Shane Gillis speaking. He's like, hey, those are my figures. What the hell? I remember with my son, like I gave him a bunch of my old ones that I still had around. And he was like kind of not ruining them, but he like not breaking them, but like nicking them up and like also I'm like, whoa, come on, man. I haven't like decent shape for years, you know, the ones I had in the kid all live at my grandmother's house where now generations of grandkids and cousins and stuff have played with them. They're still there. Corporal Kirschner's in there. I think Joe Doug in there, a British bulldog. The one I snagged back when Jesse even sure became governor, whatever age I was in 1999 whenever that happened, I took that figure back just to have it. I've got it somewhere. But it's all scarred up messed up from kids mess with it. What you were just talking about. Yep.

49:34But I remember I still have a bunch back here. The heels like piper is all kind of beat up. It's fine. Only Hogan's hand, but Hogan is like pristine, except for maybe his hand is the from punching the piper, you know, beat him up and bunnies all scratched up. So I can see a little bit, but I feel like when he give him something, he doesn't have cherishes or appreciate it like I would have like, you know, it's dad's old crappy toys. Well, he doesn't know. He doesn't know the, you know, he's a kid. That's how it goes. Let me ask you something real quick while I was a kid. My best friend that got me into wrestling had the AWA rain first. And like the road warriors that had the movable, they weren't the big rubber figures. They had the AWA figures. I remember that before the WWE having their ringing figures, the AWA preceded or that my child's imagination and AWA just trying to keep up with WWE. It was right around the same period. I don't, I thought maybe WWE F might have just beat them out, but it's right around eight late 8485 is when they came out both of them kind of. So it was right around the kind of the same time period. I never had the AWA rain.

50:34I only had a couple of AWA guys. I was a WWE F guy through them through it. So I had all the WWE F guys. Well, my best friend did and I have to say is crock like Crocket kids in South Carolina. We had more of an affinity in some ways for AWA than WWF because of the road warriors and just how it felt. Yes. And we want, once again, we were whole commanding acts like everybody else. I'm just saying this region and I guess you could, we watched it on ESPN back then. Or, but we were aware of it in the magazines. But we knew who the road warriors were when they were still there before they got to crock it and all that kind of stuff. So I don't know. Pretty cool. I wish he still had that ring. It might be worse up than now. I got to, yeah, oh my God, definitely would be. I got to bring this up because this is your favorite and she loves you. So test it, but I answered no for MLW, which is kind of crazy. You have to hold that MLW talker. Then she was booked for CMLL, which obviously takes precedent, which MLW admitted that they they president. So she wasn't on that show. So instead you get Masha slam of it and she beat shots and she becomes a new MLW woman's champion. So does this mean that Tessa would have been the MLW women's world champion, you think?

51:38Ask that's what I think. I think MLW said that Masha had been actually signed in July and they were just getting to it. But even so, is this the plans for Tessa? We weren't expecting Masha to show up on the same show that was Tessa was the big surprise, right? So if so, and I'm a fan of Masha slam of it, but I'm more of a fan of Tessa Blanchard than almost any other woman out there. I mean, she's really a terribly territory for me, Charlotte territory. That's how much I like Tessa Blanchard. I was there in person. That was a Charleston taping and Masha comes out three times in one of those times. And it's not the last time is when she was the championship from Shotzi. Are you just saying that because you know she's listening or are you being legit on that with Tessa? I've been saying that for years when my girlfriend showed me that Tessa was coming to MLW. I was through the roof. She she wanted to be the first one to show me because she knew I would be through the roof because she's probably tired of me for the number of years we've been dating, talking about how Tessa Blanchard should be on American TV and be the world champion. I've been talking about it for years and years and years because I feel that way. It's not just because her dad's tully.

52:39That's cool for me is a South Carolina, a crock kid, but she's one of the best wrestlers in the world if she didn't have that family lineage. She just is. She's one of the best. There's no doubt about it. One final thing I want to mention this because obviously has a little bit of wrestling, a little bit of politics, a little bit of craziness tied in. We're talking last week about Benoit and Lynsey Clancy. It's watching the Gayle King interview, whatever her name is. The lone juror that was a man that everybody hated, it was going nuts about. He ended up being a black man. So they are whole perspective changed within a second. Gayle King, I think, is that our last thing King? I think she couldn't even finish her sense because I have to think about this. So what do you, what do you make of that? I feel like, oh my god, liberals are nuts, man, like holy crap. They don't know what to do because they've based their views. Everything is identity politics. Yeah, what a shame. They didn't even care if this, well, they cared after the fact because they tried to attack them, but like that it was a black man, whether it was a good black man or a bad black man or old black man or young black.

53:42They didn't care. They were just like, oh, it's a man. He's back all these women. Right. And I think one of the jurors, one of the women even said that like they wanted to push some sort of feminist thing as if these kids live as in true justice was not the real aim here. Like what are we talking about? I laughed out loud because I know how these people think. It's all identity politics. It's the opposite of Martin Luther King. The critical race theory is so much that you know, Martin Luther King said, you want to be judged on your character, not on the color of your skin. They judge people in the color of their skin, not your character. Well, this black guy is probably looking at all these crazy ass white ladies just letting this woman kill her kids. What the hell? You know, I'm simplifying it. But yeah, watching the left react to that was a big kick for anybody who's conservative or right-leaning and it should have been. Because that's a wacky way to think about your fellow human beings, especially when children's lives are involved. That's what they were concerned with. And I love it. They're like, this man, like try to percent like this man. He's like, he's crazy. He's like, guy, he can't think for himself. Like he bubble and they're like, man, he couldn't wrap his head around the fact that this woman, she killed her kid.

54:47Like, yeah, I gotta make perfect sense. Like, of course, he can't wrap his head around. It's nuts. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's normal. There's a conversation to be had. Part of depression. There's also a conversation to be had about not being so nonchalant about the death of children killed by their own mother. Yeah. Both of those things are true. And those are the people who, oh, these women are heroes, but, you know, are she our Lindsey Clancy's a hero? No. That freaking nuts. Oh my God. All right. So let's wrap up this bad boy head towards the plugs, follow me on Twitter and on Instagram. That's you man. Power Trip. Have a you Jack. You can find me on exit Jack Hunter 74. Right. Thank you. Everybody out there for listening. See you right back here next week for little capital and K-FAP. See you next week folks. This has been a John Paz power trip production in conjunction with the two man power trip of the wrestling. You could follow us on Instagram and Twitter at two man power trip. You can check us out on Facebook. You can subscribe on YouTube. You can go to patreon.com slash TMPT empire to become a patron and also check out the website TMPT empire.com.

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